Monday, May 07, 2012
El Talismán #69 Mon 5/7/12 Val and Lu Have a Conscience, The Third Jaunt, You Can't Always Get What You Want
Really to count, a woman must have either goodness or brains-M. Hercule Poirot
Previously on El Talisman:
Tonio and Lucrazy are having that celebratory drinky poo.
Today on El Talisman:
Army and Angel are still talking about Fabi and Maria comes in looking for Cameela. The boys say they haven't seen her. The boys are about to leave and Maria wants to know where, they say they are going to pursue, oh, ehm, look for Fabi, she tells them good luck and they go.
Poor Maria as soon as she looks like she is about to relax, guess who comes in, wait for it, El Viral the gaseous one of course. El Viral says she NEEDS to talk to Maria, and she tells her she saw Manuel.
Manuel, Mariana and Pedro are still talking. He gives Manuel the bank statements and he tells Mariana once again he never took a penny, and she will see he was telling the truth. Pedro leaves. Manuel sits down at the desk and looks at the documents. Manuel looks through the documents and Mariana asks him what is it. He tells her Pedro told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so there! He says all of her money is there, from the day she left Fresno and that she has quite a bit of money. So FINALLY she decides that Pedro told the truth all along and that Tonio LIED!!!!. She tells Manuel she loves Pedro very much, Rut Ro.
Padre and Cameela are talking and she tells him she had talked to Maria about her problems with Pedro. Padre tells her to have faith in God and everything will be ok.
El Viral is pithed. She wants to talk to Maria about Manuel. Maria tells her she is not talking with El Viral about Manuel. She tells Maria that Manuel is so into El Viral and doesn't care a fig for Maria. Maria tells her to shut her yap, she isn't beleiving a word she is saying. I think El Viral accused her of chasing Manuel, when Manuel really came to Fresno looking for El Viral. Maria shatters El Viral's HUGE illusions and tells her that Manuel wants nothing to do with El Viral. Well that just sets the gas in her brain off, and she is going to blow any minute. She is asking Maria why she thinks Manuel doesn't want her, and besides why did he break up with you (Maria) when we were young and go with me (El Viral). Maria finally tells her that you engineered this whole mess, when we were young, so stuff a sock in it already. She says you have caused unending grief for your son Army and your daughter Cameela. Enough already! Maria tells El Viral it is the truth and you know it. Maria says she cares about Army and Cameela and to leave them alone and stop meddling. Maria wants El Viral to think about all she has done in her life and to leave Cameela, Pedro and Army in peace. Maria is so mad, she leaves the room, goes into her room and slams the door. Now El Viral is steaming mad and her headband looks like it is sinking in her head, and THAR SHE BLOWS, she starts screeching at the top of her lungs. (See M. Hercule Poirot's quote above). She is really, really needing that Sleepytime Tea, jus' sayin'.
Pigorio is looking for Doris. He is yelling for her, and Alberta comes and tells him Doris has flown the Pig Sty (umm,Alcatrash). Pigorio wants to know where? Alberta doesn't know. He really wants to know if she is somewhere else at Alcatrash and Alberta tells him she swears she's gone.
Meanwhile Doris is at Brigette's. Brigette reminds Doris that Pigorio doesn't want her working there. She tells Doris that Pigorio has a grand passion for her.
Angel and Army are breaking into Alcatrash again. Angel stays in the bushes, while Army gets to the front porch, by the railings and hides. He climbs over the railing and makes it into the house without being seen. He goes in search of Fabi's room. Army is still looking for Fabi's room.
Padre and Cameela are still talking and Cameela says she wants to go look for Pedro, but Padre tells her to be patient and to wait to talk to him when he gets back to El Tal. Pedro makes it back to El Tal and is happy Cameela is there. Cameela says she doesn't want to be seperated from him. First it was Lucrazy, then Mariana and she doesn't want to lose him. He tells her he took those bank statments to Mariana to show her that he never touched her money and that is proof he has been telling the truth all along and now she'll know Tonio lied. He tells her to rest easy and he gives her a huge hug and kisses. He tells Cameela to be secure in their love. He tells he is worried about Santiago all alone on the street. She wants to know if the police are still looking for him. He says yes. He tells her he loves her.
Pigorio and Panchito are in Pigorio's office and Pigorio wants to know where Doris is? Panchito tells him to stay calm, and not to get upset, or he'll be back in the hospital. Pigorio just wants to know where Doris is. Valentin comes into the office and Panchito wants to stay, but Pigorio tells him to leave, he needs to meet with Valentin alone. Panchito leaves. Valentin tells Pigorio he is sorry but wants to leave Alcatrash and Pigorio. He doesn't want to kill any body any more and he doesn't want to go to jail. Wow. Pigorio tells Valentin to stop being a coward and that they have to stop Mariana from getting her memory back.
Tonio has put the pills on the bedside table and says he'll take these pills and die and Alcatrash will be in, wait for it, MIS MANOS!!!!
Meanwhile Lucrazy has gone back into the little office looking for Tonio. She goes to the cabinet and opens it and, wait for it , finds the RAT POISON. She says oh, noes, Tonio is trying to kill Papa, oh certainly he is. Tonio comes in and says, wait for it, QUE HACES AQUI? She asks him flat out if he is trying to kill Papa? Did you mess with his pills? You ARE trying to kill him right? He grabs her by the chin, and tells her, wait for it, LARGATE. He tells her she is very emotional and to LARGATE.
Alberta, Tracy, Flor and Fabi have been in the kitchen talking about the girl's woes, what with the breakup of Army and Doris leaving Alcatrash.
Meanwhile, Poor Angel is stuck in those bushes outside and he scratches himself and Panchito is outside too and almost catches him. Panchito shakes himself and says oh, it must have been some animal, or, wait for it, a CHUPACABRA. Really the things don't exist. When was the last time y'all saw a goat sucker, just sayin'.
Finally, El Capitan is back on the screen. He is speaking to the investigator (still no name) that El Viral, Madame Gasbag, went to talk to about MI CHEQUE. They are talking about Mariana, and El Capitan is convinced they can't really do anything until Mariana get she memory back. They are having a cafecito, and El Capitan says when she does recover her memory, then she will be able to finger Pigorio for the beating and loss of the baby and her disappearance.
Tonio wants to know if Lucrazy will run to Pigorio and tell him that Tonio doctored those pills and is trying to kill him? Now Lucrazy for some reason is trying to be reasonable with Tonio. She tells him killing Pigorio will not do anyone any good. He reminds her Alcatrash, wait for it, ES MIO, but Lucrazy says that Tonio shouldn't kill for it. He tells her that given the chance Pigorio will kill Pedro. Lucrazy tells Tonio, Pigorio is their Papa, good or bad. He grabs her chin again, and she swears she won't tell Pigorio. Tonio tells Lucrazy let's celebrate to the fact that Alcatrash will be MIO and let's have a drink. Stupid Doris is finally gone. Yeah. Tonio tells Lucrazy that Lucrazy should be happy, and they should enjoy this celebration. Lucrazy asks Tonio if he wants to marry Cameela right away? Aren't you worried she won't wait for your evil minded plan? He calls Pedro an indio again and that he is stupid, and something about his pantalones. Someone please clarify. I hope it isn't he's got his pants in a twist.
Pedro has taken Cameela to Tia Maria's. Pedro says something about getting a passport, not sure if it 's for himself or Cameela. Just about this time, guess who walks in, you got that right, El Viral Madame Gasbag. She tells Pedro she wants, wait for it, MI CHEQUE. Cameela doesn't want to talk to El Viral so Pedro does instead. He tells El Viral forget about MI CHEQUE, cause I can't give you the money, El Tal belongs to me, but it isn't a cash cow. She says you can help me with Mariana. He tells her he is not going to help her get that money from Mariana.
Tracy and Alberta are in the kitchen talking, and the funniest scene today, Panchito sneaks around the corner and scares them. They both yell at him.
Doris is in the main salon of M. Brigette's and talking to I don't know her name. This woman is worried about Doris being there. Doris assures her she will be marrying Pigorio. The woman laughs and says, oh yeah, right sure, sure. All The Negretes are bad. Doris says don't ever besmirch their name again.
Alberta, Flor, Fabi and Tracy are in the kitchen talking about how Mama Doris' absence has effected them. Fabi leaves the room. Flor follows Fabi and they see Lucrazy and Tonio in the living room. Tonio tries to talk to them, but hey ignore him and keep on going. Army has found Fabi's room and is hiding behind the door when he hears the girls. He hides on the side of one of the girls' beds. The girls come into the room, and Army thought bubbles that he only needs a minute with Fabi. Flor leaves the room, Fabi is sitting on her bed, when up pops Army, scaring the living daylights out of Fabi. She utters a little screech, and Flor asks her if she is ok. Fabi says she's fine. Fabi asks Army, wait for it, QUE HACES AQUI?. He tells Fabi he came because he wants her to forgive him. Fabi asks Army if he is crazy, for coming here again. Army says I just want you to forgive me. But Fabi tells him to please leave, she wants him out of her life forevs. He asks her if she still loves him? She doesn't answer and he says he'll go. Army goes to leave but she stops him and tells him it isn't save to leave cause her Papa is in the living room and he is sure to see Army. He smiles. He tells Fabi he would rather have Tonio catch him. He asks her again if she loves him? They kiss and Flor comes in the room. She is smiling.
Pedro left and now Cameela comes in the room and El Viral is still going on about, wait for it, MI CHEQUE. (Please ya gasbag give it a rest, Cami fix her that sleeptime tea, pronto por favor.). Cameela reminds El Viral that she knows very well, Pedro owns El Talisman, that Estagone gambled it away, and Pedro won it back. She also reminds El Viral that as such, Mariana doesn't owe El Viral anything. She also reminds El Viral that Pedro is not staying with Mariana, he is marrying her. El Viral suggested that Pedro stay with Mariana to get that MI CHEQUE. Cameela is disgusted with El Viral and she says Mariana doesn't remember anything and is living with Manuel, who is his hija. El Viral is say what???? The headband is getting tighter and the gas is building, jus' sayin'.
We have a Santiago sighting. The poor boy was hungry and stole some food, and the grocery store guy caught him, and the poor boy is hitting the grocer with the sandwich, when the police come and arrest Santiago for shoplifting. El Capitan calls Pedro and says they have Santiago in custody for shoplifting. El Capitan says they will probably send him to foster care. Meanwhile, Sanitago is with the socialworker. He is afraid of jail, but the social worker tells him since he has no parents here, he will probably go to foster care. He doesn't want to go there, he wants to go to El Talisman. He tells the social worker that is where he lives.
Angel and Army are back home and Army is very happy Fabi forgave him. Cameela comes in and they tell her that Fabi forgave Army. She asks Army if Flor is ok with this? He tells her Flor is fine with this.
Fabi and Flor are talking and Flor is happy for Fabi. She is happy she forgave Army, Fabi that is.
Pedro and Padre are planning a trip to Tijuana to get the orphans, but he wants to take Cameela with them and she has to get a passport. He calls Cameela but there is no answer.
Lucrazy is passed out from all the tequila she has consumed with this celebration of Tonio's. Tonio and Valentin find her, passed out on the couch. Valentin wants to know if she is ok? Tonio says she is just drunk. He tells Valentin he wants that gun that Lucrazy used to try to kill Pedro with.
Pigorio wakes up with just himself in the bed and is cursing Doris and wondering where the heck she is.
Brigette and Doris are talking again, and Doris says she is worried about Fabi and Flor, she is worried how this is effecting them.
Cami and the boys are still hanging out, when Mariana comes to visit. Cameela asks her, wait for it, QUE HACES AQUI? She wants to talk to Cameela. She asks Cameela to forgive her for all the bad things she said about Pedro being a swindler. She tells Cameela that she now beleives Pedro and she is not letting Pedro go. Cameela asks her if she can stay with a man she knows very well doesn't love her, and is in love with another? She tells Cameela she is not divorcing Pedro until she gets her memory back, and besides that she needs Cameela's help. Why? Cameela tells her she really needs Pedro's help to get her memory back.
Flor, Fabi, Alberta and Tracy are in the kitchen and Fabi tells them she is very happy and that she is back with Army, but she swears them to secrecy. She tells them about how Army snuck in the house, it was like a romantic movie. They are all happy, but Flor is a little down. Not because of Army, she is worried about where her Mom is and she wants to find her.
Tomorrow on El Talisman:
Tonio has the gun that Valentin gave him covered in a kerchief. It is the same one Lucrazy tried to use to kill Pedro. Rut Roh.
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I may have gotten what Maria and El Viral said a little backwards. Please fill in what I missed.
That scene with Panchito almost catching Angel was hysterical as was Army scaring Fabi and Panchito scaring Alberta and Tracy. Loved the reference to the Chupacabra. Too funny. I saw an episode once of the X-Files that had a Chupacabra story line.
El Viral needs some good anitdepressants, just saying. The woman can howl. Maybe she is the Chupacabra. She is sucking the life out of those around her. That headband of hers is getting tighter and tighter I think.
That scene with Panchito almost catching Angel was hysterical as was Army scaring Fabi and Panchito scaring Alberta and Tracy. Loved the reference to the Chupacabra. Too funny. I saw an episode once of the X-Files that had a Chupacabra story line.
El Viral needs some good anitdepressants, just saying. The woman can howl. Maybe she is the Chupacabra. She is sucking the life out of those around her. That headband of hers is getting tighter and tighter I think.
Hi, Madelaine. What a great recap! I had quit watching this tn a while ago, but started up again and am enjoying your great recaps. Thanks for keeping the faith.
The actress you were unfamiliar with is Lucy, and she is played by Victoria del Rosal, the same girl who does the face cream commercials (Crema de choncha nacar?)
Thanks again for a great recap.
David
The actress you were unfamiliar with is Lucy, and she is played by Victoria del Rosal, the same girl who does the face cream commercials (Crema de choncha nacar?)
Thanks again for a great recap.
David
Permalink posted by 
: Monday, May 7, 2012 at 5:53:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 7, 2012 at 5:53:00 PM EDT
Question, how is Tonio going to use the same gun lulu had? When has Pedro tried to kill Pigorio? Isn't that gun register to lucrazy?
Thank you David for your great commments. Thank you for Lucy's name.
Odie- I think Tonio wants to make it look as if Pedro is trying to kill Pigorio. That gun is registered to Lucrazy. Either they will pin this shooting on Pedro or Lucrazy if Tonio can manage it.
Odie- I think Tonio wants to make it look as if Pedro is trying to kill Pigorio. That gun is registered to Lucrazy. Either they will pin this shooting on Pedro or Lucrazy if Tonio can manage it.
Madelaine, thanks for getting this recap up so quickly! I just finished watching the epi. So many "que haces aqui," so little character development...
Some added tidbits:
When Armando is heading out to see Fabi, Tia Maria says good luck with your novia, but I feel sorry for poor Flo. Angel says don't worry, I will stand by to console her! (YAY!)
I don't think that is the same gun that Lucrazy used -- Tonio tells Valentin several times to "go get me one of the Indio's guns." I think he's trying to pin something on Pedro, but you're right to wonder...will he take aim at his Dad or his sis? (I was worried he was going to roll her into the pool while she was spit-faced.)
My captions weren't working at the beginning and I missed the whole passport conversation; thanks for filling that in. My favorite parts were Elvira's marmot-scream and Angel getting nailed by the attack-bush.
Some added tidbits:
When Armando is heading out to see Fabi, Tia Maria says good luck with your novia, but I feel sorry for poor Flo. Angel says don't worry, I will stand by to console her! (YAY!)
I don't think that is the same gun that Lucrazy used -- Tonio tells Valentin several times to "go get me one of the Indio's guns." I think he's trying to pin something on Pedro, but you're right to wonder...will he take aim at his Dad or his sis? (I was worried he was going to roll her into the pool while she was spit-faced.)
My captions weren't working at the beginning and I missed the whole passport conversation; thanks for filling that in. My favorite parts were Elvira's marmot-scream and Angel getting nailed by the attack-bush.
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 7, 2012 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 7, 2012 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
Madelaine, thanks for your recap. The reason why Flor and Fabi ignored Tony was because as they were coming in the room they heard him completely trash their mother. He started to go after them but didn't thank goodness b/c in his state he'd be grabbing their faces too as he does with all the women in his life.
Though she hasn't killed anyone (yet), I think the writers may have a very bad ending for the Virus (a guess). But the writers like being silly (the scenes with Angel/Pancho and Pancho/Tracy/Alberta) so a fun ending would be to have her having to work and being poor. Her greed is bad but her nastiness really comes out as she tries to keep Maria and Manuel from one another.
Whatever Tony is planning, I hope, as most of his plans, it doesn't work. Thankfully he's been a rather incompetent villain or we'd have a high body count.
Though she hasn't killed anyone (yet), I think the writers may have a very bad ending for the Virus (a guess). But the writers like being silly (the scenes with Angel/Pancho and Pancho/Tracy/Alberta) so a fun ending would be to have her having to work and being poor. Her greed is bad but her nastiness really comes out as she tries to keep Maria and Manuel from one another.
Whatever Tony is planning, I hope, as most of his plans, it doesn't work. Thankfully he's been a rather incompetent villain or we'd have a high body count.
Madelaine, wow you quoted one of my favorite characters of all time, Hercule Poirot. I got so excited when I read your quote. This was a GREAT recap!
I loved THAT SHE BLOWS, it is perfect for El Viral. The only thing about their conversation that I got a slightly different take on, I thought Maria was telling ElViral to leave the subject of Manuel alone (or at peace) and concentrate more on the care of her own hijos. However I think leaving her kids in peace is probably the best way to care for them.
I can't believe it, we got a, wait for it, MIS MANOS, instead of ES MIO. That's a change.
You know what? I think Doris also said something else to Lucy. I think she said Don G. is a womanizer and she worries about him going after another woman, like that Elvira for example. I wonder if I heard that right? It seems weird. But then later she told Brigitte she was afraid Pigorio would leave her, just like every other man has.
Tonio wanted to toast Lucrecia for HER big pantalones (being sarcastic) because she could not kill Pedro. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm a bit worried about Lucrazy and what Tonio might do to her if he thinks she'll blab about him poisoning dad.
Flor told Tracy and Alberta that she and Fab have decided to live with their mother. Don't they remember about her long, mysterious absences? Or maybe that's exactly why they want to live with her.
I really like the idea of Mariana and Cameela working together to try to get back Mariana's memory. I hope that Mariana will dump Tonio once and for all. I can't wait to see him face. It seems like his stupid plans are starting to crumble and he is becoming sloppy.
I loved THAT SHE BLOWS, it is perfect for El Viral. The only thing about their conversation that I got a slightly different take on, I thought Maria was telling ElViral to leave the subject of Manuel alone (or at peace) and concentrate more on the care of her own hijos. However I think leaving her kids in peace is probably the best way to care for them.
I can't believe it, we got a, wait for it, MIS MANOS, instead of ES MIO. That's a change.
You know what? I think Doris also said something else to Lucy. I think she said Don G. is a womanizer and she worries about him going after another woman, like that Elvira for example. I wonder if I heard that right? It seems weird. But then later she told Brigitte she was afraid Pigorio would leave her, just like every other man has.
Tonio wanted to toast Lucrecia for HER big pantalones (being sarcastic) because she could not kill Pedro. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm a bit worried about Lucrazy and what Tonio might do to her if he thinks she'll blab about him poisoning dad.
Flor told Tracy and Alberta that she and Fab have decided to live with their mother. Don't they remember about her long, mysterious absences? Or maybe that's exactly why they want to live with her.
I really like the idea of Mariana and Cameela working together to try to get back Mariana's memory. I hope that Mariana will dump Tonio once and for all. I can't wait to see him face. It seems like his stupid plans are starting to crumble and he is becoming sloppy.
Meant to say I can't wait to see HIS face.
Karen, I just read your comment. Looks like we agree on incompetent Antonio.
Karen, I just read your comment. Looks like we agree on incompetent Antonio.
Why does Camila need a passport? Didn't she have one the last time they went to TJ?
I heard the same thing about Gregorio, that he's a womanizer. Since when? Or is Doris refering to prostitutes, because I'm not sure that counts. He hasn't seen Elvira since the big dance when he made fun of her. Doris is smarter than that, relative to everyone else anyway.
And what's with Mariana thinking that if she decided to stay with Pedro, he's stuck with her? Is she getting her legal info from telenovelas or what?
Chupacabras are totally real. Madelaine is right about Elvira. Maybe that scream was her mating call and that's why she was attracted to Gregorio, because he's one too. Maybe the dead goats are what he has hiding in that mystery corner or El Tal.
Kelly
I heard the same thing about Gregorio, that he's a womanizer. Since when? Or is Doris refering to prostitutes, because I'm not sure that counts. He hasn't seen Elvira since the big dance when he made fun of her. Doris is smarter than that, relative to everyone else anyway.
And what's with Mariana thinking that if she decided to stay with Pedro, he's stuck with her? Is she getting her legal info from telenovelas or what?
Chupacabras are totally real. Madelaine is right about Elvira. Maybe that scream was her mating call and that's why she was attracted to Gregorio, because he's one too. Maybe the dead goats are what he has hiding in that mystery corner or El Tal.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 7, 2012 at 6:39:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 7, 2012 at 6:39:00 PM EDT
Madelaine, thanks once again!
Well, I guess I can stop worry about most of the women in this TN. Most will not count because they have neither goodness or brains. (Loved the quote)
Maria needs to talk El Captain into lending her a taser for ElViral. It is going to be the only way to shut her.
After Pigorio's comment to Pancho about El Tal, I wonder if Pancho has some sort of connection to El Tal.
Rosemary Primera
Well, I guess I can stop worry about most of the women in this TN. Most will not count because they have neither goodness or brains. (Loved the quote)
Maria needs to talk El Captain into lending her a taser for ElViral. It is going to be the only way to shut her.
After Pigorio's comment to Pancho about El Tal, I wonder if Pancho has some sort of connection to El Tal.
Rosemary Primera
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 7, 2012 at 6:53:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 7, 2012 at 6:53:00 PM EDT
Madelaine, thank you! Top notch reporting from stem to stern, as usual, but the line that really got me was "THAR SHE BLOWS!" Quick, where's the harpoon?! So funny.
Truly, I think Camila, Armando, Angel, Maria, Pedro, and Mariana should all carry tasers and zap the huffy heifer every time she opens her mouth. Why is Maria still supporting her? Someone needs to tell her to get a job. Barring that, I do like the idea of someone telling her there's treasure buried and then they can all watch from a distance and laugh while she digs.
So...what IS hidden or a secret on the ranch? If it were treasure, I think Gag would have already dug it up. I'm guessing bodies. Do we know of anyone unaccounted for? Where's Panchito's mom?
How did Pedro get permission to bring a bunch of orphans to the U.S., and what is wrong with their orphanage in Tijuana?
Truly, I think Camila, Armando, Angel, Maria, Pedro, and Mariana should all carry tasers and zap the huffy heifer every time she opens her mouth. Why is Maria still supporting her? Someone needs to tell her to get a job. Barring that, I do like the idea of someone telling her there's treasure buried and then they can all watch from a distance and laugh while she digs.
So...what IS hidden or a secret on the ranch? If it were treasure, I think Gag would have already dug it up. I'm guessing bodies. Do we know of anyone unaccounted for? Where's Panchito's mom?
How did Pedro get permission to bring a bunch of orphans to the U.S., and what is wrong with their orphanage in Tijuana?
Thank you for all the great comments. Thank you Blue Lass, Cap'n and Karen for filling in missing stuff for me. I too wonder when Pigorio was a womanizer. But then again, what happened to his first wife? He was in love with Don Bernardo's wife and accidently was the cause of her death, He went after El Viral and now Doris. I think she was referring to the call girls.
About the gun I was confused, but I bet Blue Lass you hit it. I think Valentin will go over to El Tal and steal one of Pedro's. Tonio is doing everything he can to get rid of Pedro, so the path to Cameela is clear, but then again El Capitan is so on to Tonio.
About the THAR SHE BLOWS, I have been waiting for El Viral to do something where I could use this line. I love the sea and any sea lore and sea chantys. I was also in the Navy for 20 years, though we never said it there workwise, but we sure did use it for some people lol. Had great fun in the Navy. My first commanding officer was(I'm not kidding here) Captain Butcher and the XO was Commander Lawless lol. We would snark on their names all the time.
Kelly I beleive you about the CHUPACABRA lol. I think you are right, El Viral is definitely one and Pigorio is probably her mate. lol. It must have been her mating call. That is probably why he woke up and felt disoriented lol.
Rosemary Primera and Julia- love the taser idea. Everyone connected to El Viral should get one, so as soon as she starts spouting about MI CHEQUE they can just zap her. lol.
About the gun I was confused, but I bet Blue Lass you hit it. I think Valentin will go over to El Tal and steal one of Pedro's. Tonio is doing everything he can to get rid of Pedro, so the path to Cameela is clear, but then again El Capitan is so on to Tonio.
About the THAR SHE BLOWS, I have been waiting for El Viral to do something where I could use this line. I love the sea and any sea lore and sea chantys. I was also in the Navy for 20 years, though we never said it there workwise, but we sure did use it for some people lol. Had great fun in the Navy. My first commanding officer was(I'm not kidding here) Captain Butcher and the XO was Commander Lawless lol. We would snark on their names all the time.
Kelly I beleive you about the CHUPACABRA lol. I think you are right, El Viral is definitely one and Pigorio is probably her mate. lol. It must have been her mating call. That is probably why he woke up and felt disoriented lol.
Rosemary Primera and Julia- love the taser idea. Everyone connected to El Viral should get one, so as soon as she starts spouting about MI CHEQUE they can just zap her. lol.
The passport thing was confusing to me too, Kelly. I thought both Pedro and Cameela had one for the last time they went, unless I missed something and it is for Margarito. I think Margarito may go with them.
Julia- I think Pedro wants to bring those orphans to the States, cause the nun that ran it died, and I guess they ran out of money and since Pedro now lives in the States he wants to bring them all up here to take care of. He would need all kinds of licenses, but since it is a Catholic Orphange the Padre is helping Pedro bring them to the States. I don't know how they are getting the liscenses, probably thru the Church and connections I would think.
Julia- I think Pedro wants to bring those orphans to the States, cause the nun that ran it died, and I guess they ran out of money and since Pedro now lives in the States he wants to bring them all up here to take care of. He would need all kinds of licenses, but since it is a Catholic Orphange the Padre is helping Pedro bring them to the States. I don't know how they are getting the liscenses, probably thru the Church and connections I would think.
Cap'n love Hercule Poirot. I started reading Agatha Christie books when I was a kid and have been a fan ever since. He is the most fussy little man, but I do admire his "little grey cells" and the way he always solves his cases. Maybe he will make an appearance at the office of El Capitan, who by the way, is an old friend of his.
The only gun I've seen Pedro with is the one he took from Lulu. Also, if Pedro and Cameela are going to TJ, how is he going to be framed? How do everyone from el Alcatrash just walk into Pedro house? How did Val know where the guns were hidden. And last, is this new girl that was with Santiago also going to fall in love with Pedro?
Odie- I don't know if Pedro owns any guns. Maybe he has the one that Lucrazy had, that he took away from her. As far as people coming into El Talisman, they just walk right in, Pedro has no security system or people watching that I know of. Tonio will try to frame Pedro, cause he doesn't know Pedro is going to Tijuana. Tonio is kind of dense that way . I don't know how Val knows these things but occaisonally Panchito will spy over there, when Tracy is there. I don't know about the Social Worker falling in love with Pedro, but Pedro will never leave Cameela.
That passport thing is bugging me. I am far from being fluent in Spanish so maybe there is someone out there who can help. Might Pedro have told Cameela that in the morning he will come by for her or pick her up, i.e. paso por ti? Or maybe the writers just forgot about her prior trip to Tijuana.
Madelaine, I'm sure it won't surprise you that I also love sea lore and sea shanties. The story about your commanding officers' names is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
Madelaine, I'm sure it won't surprise you that I also love sea lore and sea shanties. The story about your commanding officers' names is hilarious. Thanks for sharing.
Cap'n Sharkbait, it doesn't surprise me at all. lol. I wish I had known this board existed when y'all did Corazon Salvaje 09. I would have loved to have commented. I just had to say the names of my former CO's it was just too funny.
This passport thing, maybe Anita will know. It could be as you say and I misheard it. Sometimes they talk so fast, and since I watch in real time and don't tape, I don't catch everything. Same with the guns that Odie brought up. I don't know how Valentin knows so very much about El Talisman. Maybe he worked there before going over to the dark side with Pigorio, or he was a spy for Pigorio.
This passport thing, maybe Anita will know. It could be as you say and I misheard it. Sometimes they talk so fast, and since I watch in real time and don't tape, I don't catch everything. Same with the guns that Odie brought up. I don't know how Valentin knows so very much about El Talisman. Maybe he worked there before going over to the dark side with Pigorio, or he was a spy for Pigorio.
Thanks a ton for this, Madelaine. What fun your recaps are. I read this on the way home (the Lovely Linda was driving) and then watched the episode as soon as I got here. I paid close attention (my Spanish CCs were quite good today for a change) to the parts you were uncertain about.
I heard no mention of passports but after rewatching that scene with Pedro and Camila I found Pedro saying this:
"Bueno mi amor, mi voy, mañana temprano paso por ti"
"Well my love, I'm leaving, I'll come by for you early tomorrow"
The next morning the padre said that the day had arrived for him to return to Tijuana. Pedro said that they would miss him a bunch and why not wait for Camila so she can say goodbye. Padre said sure, he doesn't have to leave until this afternoon and besides he would have time to drop by the orphanage to give it his blessing. Margarito offered to take him, Pedro said fine, he's go by to pick up Camila. At that point Pedro's cell phone rang and it was el Capitán calling to tell him that they'd picked up Santi.
I'm pretty sure that is what happened.
While telling Lu to keep quiet about the poison thing Antonio used a popular expression:
"...calladita tú ves más bonita."
...you're more beautiful with your mouth shut."
My favorite scene was Elvira's little squeal.
Carlos
I heard no mention of passports but after rewatching that scene with Pedro and Camila I found Pedro saying this:
"Bueno mi amor, mi voy, mañana temprano paso por ti"
"Well my love, I'm leaving, I'll come by for you early tomorrow"
The next morning the padre said that the day had arrived for him to return to Tijuana. Pedro said that they would miss him a bunch and why not wait for Camila so she can say goodbye. Padre said sure, he doesn't have to leave until this afternoon and besides he would have time to drop by the orphanage to give it his blessing. Margarito offered to take him, Pedro said fine, he's go by to pick up Camila. At that point Pedro's cell phone rang and it was el Capitán calling to tell him that they'd picked up Santi.
I'm pretty sure that is what happened.
While telling Lu to keep quiet about the poison thing Antonio used a popular expression:
"...calladita tú ves más bonita."
...you're more beautiful with your mouth shut."
My favorite scene was Elvira's little squeal.
Carlos
Thank you so much Carlos for that about the passport thingy. It is as the Cap'n said and you saw on your CC's. So he is going by for her. Sometimes they talk so fast the words run together. I have trouble with Pigorio sometimes cause he sounds like he has mush in his mouth lol.
Thanks for the thing that Tonio said to Lucrazy. I have to say Lucrazy here surprised me. I thought she would so go along with Tonio, maybe she will be redeemed. It seems the only one she has it in for is Pedro and Cameela. I just hope Tonio doesn't do anything to her, as Blue Lass said. I too thought he would do something to her as she was sleeping it off.
Thanks for the thing that Tonio said to Lucrazy. I have to say Lucrazy here surprised me. I thought she would so go along with Tonio, maybe she will be redeemed. It seems the only one she has it in for is Pedro and Cameela. I just hope Tonio doesn't do anything to her, as Blue Lass said. I too thought he would do something to her as she was sleeping it off.
Excellent, Sylvia. I had no idea after watching the show until I went back and replayed that scene. You get credit for solving the passport mystery. Well done.
Carlos
Carlos
Madelaine, I'm not holding my breath that Lucrazy will be redeemed. When Tony told her that Pedro would appreciate it if the Pig were dead, it looked like she was ready to give it a second thought.
Carlos
Carlos
Carlos, thank you for helping clear up the pasaporte mystery. Mine was just an idea after replaying the scene about six times, but YOU confirmed what Pedro said.
Maybe Lucrazy was giving Tony's scheme a second thought, or maybe her eyes were about to roll back into her head before passing out. She seems to have run out of steam.
Maybe Lucrazy was giving Tony's scheme a second thought, or maybe her eyes were about to roll back into her head before passing out. She seems to have run out of steam.
The problem with these Fresnot folks is that they don't know how to entertain themselves. Here's a fun idea: Write out a check to El Viral (for like one dollar, but she doesn't need to know that) and put it on a fishing pole, carrot-and-stick style. Then wave it in front of her and jump in La Vieja and drive around town just fast enough to keep it out of her reach, and laugh and laugh while she chases it.
Did anyone else notice that Fabi was served five pieces of toast, a croissant, and a slab of ham for breakfast? I think Alcatrash needs to add a nutritionist to its staff.
Did anyone else notice that Fabi was served five pieces of toast, a croissant, and a slab of ham for breakfast? I think Alcatrash needs to add a nutritionist to its staff.
Thanks, Sylvia & Carlos, for clearing up the pasaporte mystery. I remember hearing Pedro say "paso por ti" -- I was surprised because I didn't know she was still staying with her aunt -- but I didn't make the connection. I have gotten very dependent on my captions, and I keep promising myself to turn them off to improve my listening skills, but I'm too lazy.
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: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:12:00 AM EDT
Oh, and I wanted to tell y'all that in parts of Appalachia, a woodchuck is called a "whistle pig."
If you would like to determine Elvira's exact spedies, you may listen to various marmot calls here:
http://www.junglewalk.com/sound/Marmot-sounds.htm
If you would like to determine Elvira's exact spedies, you may listen to various marmot calls here:
http://www.junglewalk.com/sound/Marmot-sounds.htm
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:14:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 at 9:14:00 AM EDT
Blue Lass, that link is hilarious! I would have thought that Elvira is a Yellow-bellied Marmot, but going by the volume of the call I guess she is a Hoary or Vancouver Island Marmot. Since she's from Texas I think that narrows it down to Hoary. It fits.
Julia, that's very funny, I didn't notice Fab's breakfast. Tracy must be distracted. You'd think since they are in Fresno they would at least have some oranges, avocados or raisins.
Julia, that's very funny, I didn't notice Fab's breakfast. Tracy must be distracted. You'd think since they are in Fresno they would at least have some oranges, avocados or raisins.
Blue Lass I too looked at the marmots and agree with Cap'n it was a hoot, and I think she is probably a Hoary one too. lol. I had forgotten El Viral was from Texas, she gives Texas a bad name.
But then again, Texas its a whole 'nother country. I have relatives there and love Texas. Oh, and El Viral looks like a marmot too.
Cap'n and Julia- about the food, I always thought Californians were very health conscious. I was surprised that Tracy gave them all that food. I've lived in the South and trust me, there would have been a ton more food besides all that that Tracey served them. I agree about the avacadoes, raisins, oranges and how about some olives, tomatoes, and grapes.
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But then again, Texas its a whole 'nother country. I have relatives there and love Texas. Oh, and El Viral looks like a marmot too.
Cap'n and Julia- about the food, I always thought Californians were very health conscious. I was surprised that Tracy gave them all that food. I've lived in the South and trust me, there would have been a ton more food besides all that that Tracey served them. I agree about the avacadoes, raisins, oranges and how about some olives, tomatoes, and grapes.
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