Sunday, May 27, 2012
Refugio Para el Amor #3-4 Fri 5/25/12 Grief, Kidnapping and Eviction
The Old:
Don Aquiles tells the family the house and lands are now his. He says Galindo promised Luciana's hand in marriage. She tells him to get out and never come back.
The New:
At the hospital, the doctor informs Rosalena and Maximo that Patricio may now be a quadropalegic and has lost sensation in his limbs and arms. The family is devestated. Rodgrigo is feeling the worst and continues to blame himself.
The chisme ladies are just yapping about Luciana and Don Aquiles, and one of them comes up to Luciana and says, come on marry the guy. Your young he has lots of dinero, and hey you could help your family out. Well Magda tells the chisme lady to get lost and tells Luciana don't ever listen to those chisme ladies. Your father never would have said that to Don Aquiles and Don Aquiles is a big fat liar. Don Aquiles had gone back to his office, shows the papers to his henchman, Copio, and tells him he IS marrying Luciana like it or not.
Rosalena has called Nana Matilda from the hospital and tells her Patricio's condition. Nana is truly upset. Bridiga is there and Nana relays the news to her, and all Bridiga can say is oh, hey, more work for me. I swear she is Mrs. Danvers.
Maximo is not pleased with what the doctors have told him. He wants better doctors for his son and he tells Gala and Rosalena this. He feels he may have a better chance of recuperating. They all go in to see Patricio one by one and tell him they want him to get better.
Back at the puebla, Lorenzo thanks the funeral director for everything he did to give his Papa a proper send off. He asks the funeral director for a job. He actually gives him a job, but now Lorenzo will have to give up school. A little later, the owner of the funeral home is dressed in vacation clothes and tells Lorenzo to take good care of the business cause he is going to Acapulco on vacation.
Paz, Magda, and Luciana are going through all their bills. Luciana vows they will pay every cent they owe, specially to Don Aquiles, no matter how long it takes. Speak of the devil here he comes and Luciana tells him she will pay back every cent her Papa owed to him little by little. He tells her well this bill is not small. You also have to pay me for the lands, and house. You'll never have enough to pay me back. So if you can't pay the amount in full by tomorrow you will face eviction.
Back at the hospital, the Doctor informs the family that Patricio has opened his eyes and regained conciousness. Maximo goes in to talk to him and tells him he had an accident on the mountain. He goes back to the waiting room and the doctor tells the family that Patricio had no complications during surgery and will be able to start therapy tomorrow. Rosalena wants to know who is going to tell Patricio about his condition. The doctor also tells the family that Patricio may get some sensation back, but how long, and how much sensation he doesn't know yet. Since Patricio has woken up, Rodrigo will go in to tell him what happened. He tells him he had an accident on the mountain and what happened. He remembers falling but not much else. Rodrigo cries and begs Patricio to forgive him. Patricio cries too. The family wants to know how Patricio took the news. Rodrigo tells them that Patricio is as well as can be expected and to go home.
Back in puebla, Magda and Paz are talking about Don Aquiles. How horrible and miserable he is. Paz is hating it cause she owes him so much money. Magda says her daughter, Violetta, works in Mexico City, and she sends money to Magda that she saves. She gives this money to Paz. Paz doesn't want to take it, but Magda insists. Paz thanks her and cries.
Julietta, Gala's mama, and her friend are having drinks. They are talking about Maximo and possible fraud and prison time. I think they are talking about Maximo and his business may be in trouble.
Max, Rodrigo, Gala and bodyguard leave the hospital and the press is out in full force wanting to know the details of what happened to Patricio. They get in the car quickly and don't answer any questions. When they get home, Roddy takes a shower and cries.
In the puebla, Luciana is packing up some of cermanic pots to sell at market. She is selling some, when Don Aquile's henchman, Copio comes and under sells her. She is livid and grabs his megaphone. He keeps saying orders are orders. One of the men in the market comes and grabs the megaphone so they stop fighting, but when he sees who the megaphone belongs to he gives it back to Copio. Ariche to the rescue, takes the megaphone and he and his friends play hide the megaphone. They end up breaking it. Luciana goes back to Dona Alberta's, she runs the local store, to see if she can sell some pots in her store, but Copio has already warned her not to, orders of Don Aquiles, she tells her she can't, Luciana has figured out who did this. Copio goes back to Don Aquiles and tells him what happened. Don Aquiles laughs and likes her spunk. Lucy brings her pots home and is very discouraged. Ariche says maybe you'll run into that guy from the jeep. Luciana smiles as she thinks about Rodrigo.
The next day, Luciana has decided to go to San Pablo de los Angeles with Ariche to sell some of her pots there. They get off the bus there and run into Marcella a woman on the bus. They ask where the market is, I think, but Marcella I think tells them they are too late. They ask for directions and Marcella goes with them.
At the hosptial, Rodrigo is going with Patricio who is being transferred back to Mexico City. There is the press again, and one of them takes a pic of Patricio on the stretcher. Rodrigo grabs the camera and smashes it and asks if the guy has no shame? The guy says he is only doing his job.
Luciana, Marcella and Airche are in a park waiting. Ariche is hungry and needs something to drink. Luciana goes across the street to buy some drinks and as she comes out of the little store, a big black SUV comes and she is shoved into it, screaming. Ariche runs after the SUV along with Marcella. They contact the police. Ariche says it was Don Aquiles that did it. He tells the police so. The police ask Marcella if she is related to Ariche. She says no, so he has to go with the police. Marcella waves good-bye. Luciana's box of pots is still there.
Meanwhile in the SUV, Don Aquiles has gagged Luciana, and bound her hands behind her back. He finally takes the gag off, and tells her he is marrying her and she better get used to it. His henchman Copio is driving laughing like a hyena, and Don Aquiles is in the back seat with Luciana petting her hair, as if she is a dog. (Note to Luciana: This guy is truly unhinged, run Chica run as fast as you can, as soon as he unties you, jus' sayin'). She says what he has done is illegal and she is telling the cops. He says go ahead, but YOU'LL be the one in jail.
Paz has told Lorenzo that Luciana went to San Pablo to sell some pots to pay bills.
The rest of the family leaves the hospital with the press chasing them too. They don't answer any questions.
Don Aquiles takes Luciana to his house. She keeps telling him to suelteme. He tells her she'll soon be Senora Aquiles. He takes her upstairs to a bedroom where a wedding dress with veil is waiting for her. She tells him she'll die before she becomes Senora Aquiles. She is freaked out. He leaves her there and locks the door. Copio has come in the room and tells her to marry Aquiles. He unties her hands and tells her to put on the wedding gown. She asks him if she were his sister, would he do this to her? He leaves the room and locks the door. She throws something at the wedding dress.
Ariche has gone to Luciana's house and tells her family what happened. The police along with the Commandante of the puebla go to Don Aquiles house to see if Luciana is there.
Don Aquiles is already dressed for the wedding and has a judge there already. He sends Copio up to get Luciana, who has not only not changed, but is giving the Don the death ray. Judge starts the ceremony and Don Aquiles is trying to rush him through. When the judge asks Luciana if she accepts, she says no. Don Aquiles signs the paperwork, but Luciana doesn't. Someone knocks on the door and Luciana screams for help. It's Luciana's family and the police and Commandante. The judge says this was no ceremony and leaves. Luciana tells Paz and Magda that Don A tried to force her to marry him. Commandante arrests Don Aquiles. When they go outside with Don A in handcuffs all the people are cheering, everyone in town hates him. He is in jail and the Commandate treats him like a king. He has brought him a nice dinner and a bucket with ice and beer. He releases him.
Meanwhile back in Mexico City, Patricio has made it home. They have done up a special room for him but he doesn't want that, he wants to go back to his old room. Bridiga is not happy, because, she had to do soooo much work on that new room. Nana is just happy her nino is home and alive. She tells Bridiga that too.
Lorenzo and his friends check out the burned field. His friend tells him the fire was started by gasoline. Lorenzo is pithed. Lorenzo goes home and Paz tells him what happened to Luciana. He wants to kill Don A. Paz talks him out of it.
Luciana has a nightmare about what happened. She wakes up, upset.
In Mexico City, Rodrigo assures Patricio he will take care of him. Hanna comes in too, opens the curtains to let the sun in, and tries to feed Patricio. He doesn't want anything.
Rodrigo goes to church and cries. The Padre asks if he can help him. He tells the Padre he feels responsible and feels horrible. He asks God why him and not me. Padre tells him God has given him a second chance and he needs to be strong for his brother.
In the puebla, Luciana is packing some of her pots, when more of Don Aquiles men come and tell the family they are being evicted. The family says this is all they have, but the men start taking stuff out of the house, they say isn't Don Aquiles still in jail, they tell the family no, and they put all their stuff in the street. Don Aquiles shows up and tells them I told you so. Magda gets in his face and tells him are you happy now. This is a decent family, have you no soul? She tells him he will be alone forever like the lowdown dog he is.
Lorenzo's friend tells him about a card game in the cantina. Lorenzo thinks it's a great way to get some money. He goes and plays and loses everything.
Rodrigo and Gala are together and he tells her there are many problems with the business and it is effecting Rod's life. Rod goes to the business, I think it is aviation, and says he is seeing the director of finances, but he is thinking of Patricio.
Back at puebla a man helps the family move their things to Magda's home. Paz is very grateful. She tells Paz that Luciana should leave town to get away from Don Aquiles, and then Lorenzo comes home and tells Paz he lost all his money gambling at the cantina. He did it to help with financial problems. Paz and Luciana talk. She asks Luciana to forgive her. Paz and Magda talk and Magda tells Paz that Luciana can go to her daughter Violetta in Mexico City find work there and never come back. They tell Luciana she should leave tomorrow.
Rodrigo has decided to come back to the puebla to think about what happened to Patricio. He goes to the mountain where he talked to Patricio before the accident and prays to God. When he is done, he walks the streets of puebla and thinks about Luciana.
Luciana is all packed and ready to go. Magda gives her money and the phone number for Violetta in Mexico City. Luciana says bye to Lorenzo. Her mama blesses her and gives her the picture of the Virgin of Guadalupe. She tells them all she loves them, puts on her shawl and leaves. Paz cries and hugs Lorenzo.
Luciana is going down the street, it almost looks like a cave tunnel, and she hears her name being called. She looks around and there is noone there. Suddenly, Sabina, the medicine woman/bruja is right behind her. She tells her destiny does not forgive, she says you' ll live but have many tears. Sabina tells her goodbye and disappears as fast as she appeared. Luciana is crying.
Advances:
Rodrigo and Gala announce their engagement.
Luciana gets off a train and runs into Rodrigo.
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I just watched a marathon of this show. This might be the stupidest telenovela I have ever seen. I kept thinking it was a comedy (for real)! That child screams ALL of his lines! ALL of them! Is it a comedy? Thanks for the recap. I haven't read it yet, but I'm sure it's witty and I will get back to you as soon as I do. Lol. I just had to tell someone how awful that TN is. One more thing...that guy cried for 4 straight episodes. He's like a girl!
Sorry it took me so long to post this. I do these recaps by hearing only. I don't have cc's of any kind. I may have gotten some things wrong. I don't know if Julietta was talking about Maximo and fraud or not. If anyone knows please clarify.
Don Aquiles is truly crazy and should be in the manicomio. He is way out there. That wedding dress was hideous as well as his wedding suit.
I really like Magda. Anyone would be lucky to have her as a friend.
Poor Rodrigo. He blames himself for everything and Maximo is not helping.
I am liking Luciana too. That girl has a lot of spunk and really stands up for what she wants.
Don Aquiles is truly crazy and should be in the manicomio. He is way out there. That wedding dress was hideous as well as his wedding suit.
I really like Magda. Anyone would be lucky to have her as a friend.
Poor Rodrigo. He blames himself for everything and Maximo is not helping.
I am liking Luciana too. That girl has a lot of spunk and really stands up for what she wants.
Cynderella lol. That guy Don Aquiles is a tool. He made me laugh with that kidnapping. This TN is not a comedy, it is supposed to be an oldfashioned romantic one. Rodrigo does cry alot doesn't he, lol. I have never seen Gabriel Soto cry so much.
I do like Luciana though. Lots more spunk than Camella over there at El Tal lol.
I do like Luciana though. Lots more spunk than Camella over there at El Tal lol.
So Cynderella has made her thoughts clear (but you must not be watching El Tal if you think this is the worst), but what do the rest of you think? I can't handle 3 shows but will need to replace El Tal which Dios willing will be ending soon.
Try this one or wait for Amor Bravo (or whatever the one with Silvia N is called)? I did like Jessica Coch but not sure she's enough reason to watch.
Kelly
Try this one or wait for Amor Bravo (or whatever the one with Silvia N is called)? I did like Jessica Coch but not sure she's enough reason to watch.
Kelly
Permalink posted by 
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 1:27:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 1:27:00 AM EDT
Kelly I thought this one would be really serious, and it is as far as Rodrigo's family goes, but Luciana and her family, lots of grief, but that Don Aquiles is way over the top. I couldn't beleive what he did to Luciana. I think there will be trouble with Gala as we go along. I think Rodrigo thinks way too much about Luciana and seems to forget about Gala.
Oh, Cheryl, I never got to answer you comment from cap 1 and 2. The guy that is playing the part of Don Aquiles was actually the guy that played Vainy's father on LQPNA and not the landlord. I'm glad your checking in and good luck with your exhibition.
Thanks for taking this on.
This episode gave me the creeps. Luciana is courageous and feisty, but the kidnapping made me cringe. Must be too many episodes of Law & Order SVU but this sort of treatment of women makes my blood boil.
Don Aquiles is headed straight to hell.
If Patricio doesn't recover at all Rodrigo will be the saddest hero ever. I'm not sure that will play well.
This episode gave me the creeps. Luciana is courageous and feisty, but the kidnapping made me cringe. Must be too many episodes of Law & Order SVU but this sort of treatment of women makes my blood boil.
Don Aquiles is headed straight to hell.
If Patricio doesn't recover at all Rodrigo will be the saddest hero ever. I'm not sure that will play well.
Thanks so much Madelaine. Fabulous job.
Cyn- This is by far not the worst, or even a bad, tn so far. You must catch some El Tal, Truinfo, etc, there are many others.
This one is a bit old fashioned, like Madelaine said, but I do like that the heroine is spunky and doesn't waste time crying. They leave that to the galan. LOL! I do undrestand his grief and guilt though. It doesn't help that his parents keep blaming him and each other for the accident. Gala actually made a lot of sense too when she told both parents to calm the hell down and think about what's best for their son.
One thing to add, Gala is some important exec at a magazine or publishing company, so Max was mad that the media had gotten wind of the accident since he thought Gala was going to help keep a lid on things. Then we go to Julie who's obviously on the phone with someone in the media, getting assurance that her name will not be mentioned and that she will be paid. Gala will not like finding that out about mama.
I didn't catch all that Julie said about Max and his biz. I was only half paying attention, but I thought it was a biz partner of Max who ended up in jail and Max who ended up with the lucrative biz. But I really wasn't paying much attention. She is eager for Gala to marry into the family because they are loaded.
Cyn- This is by far not the worst, or even a bad, tn so far. You must catch some El Tal, Truinfo, etc, there are many others.
This one is a bit old fashioned, like Madelaine said, but I do like that the heroine is spunky and doesn't waste time crying. They leave that to the galan. LOL! I do undrestand his grief and guilt though. It doesn't help that his parents keep blaming him and each other for the accident. Gala actually made a lot of sense too when she told both parents to calm the hell down and think about what's best for their son.
One thing to add, Gala is some important exec at a magazine or publishing company, so Max was mad that the media had gotten wind of the accident since he thought Gala was going to help keep a lid on things. Then we go to Julie who's obviously on the phone with someone in the media, getting assurance that her name will not be mentioned and that she will be paid. Gala will not like finding that out about mama.
I didn't catch all that Julie said about Max and his biz. I was only half paying attention, but I thought it was a biz partner of Max who ended up in jail and Max who ended up with the lucrative biz. But I really wasn't paying much attention. She is eager for Gala to marry into the family because they are loaded.
UA so agree with you about the Don. He is way over the top, and horrible to boot. Did not like how he was petting Luciana like she was his favorite dog, too creepy.
Vivi-thank you, now my confusion is cleared up. I was wondering, if Max were in trouble, why Juliettea couldn't wait for Gala to marry Rodrigo. Now it makes sense. So she is the secret source. I was wondering why the press was hounding them. I agree with you about Luciana. Very spunky and I love the way she stands up for herself, you are right about Rodrigo, poor guy can't catch a break. I think Luciana will be giving some of her spunk to him.
Vivi-thank you, now my confusion is cleared up. I was wondering, if Max were in trouble, why Juliettea couldn't wait for Gala to marry Rodrigo. Now it makes sense. So she is the secret source. I was wondering why the press was hounding them. I agree with you about Luciana. Very spunky and I love the way she stands up for herself, you are right about Rodrigo, poor guy can't catch a break. I think Luciana will be giving some of her spunk to him.
Friday's episode with the wedding dress hanging over the bed creeped me out. This TN seems to have the typical story line, although the rock climbing was quite an exciting change. I hope it doesn't turn out to be as a awful as LQNPA, El Tal, Triunfo. At the moment I am trying to keep all the characters straight.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 10:26:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 10:26:00 AM EDT
Madelaine--I didn't watch this double header--I could only choose one to record Friday, so it had to be Rogelio. Having seen the first one, your description of the action was all I needed. Good job (and I probably would have gagged over the dog petting scene.) I may or may not watch this one. The jury is still out (and Rogelio ain't done yet).
@Conejita--You ask much too much of our beloved tns. Yes, most are crap, stupid or insult our intelligence (or have crappy story lines, poor direction and horrible scripts), some are decent, few are truly outstanding.
However, if you dedicate yourself to--as Carayers call it, a Spanish Language Enhancement Study Group and play TN Bingo--you'll get a lot more out of them. We have some top notch recappers and commenters, so hang in there and join the fray. Glad to have you posting out loud!
Anita
@Conejita--You ask much too much of our beloved tns. Yes, most are crap, stupid or insult our intelligence (or have crappy story lines, poor direction and horrible scripts), some are decent, few are truly outstanding.
However, if you dedicate yourself to--as Carayers call it, a Spanish Language Enhancement Study Group and play TN Bingo--you'll get a lot more out of them. We have some top notch recappers and commenters, so hang in there and join the fray. Glad to have you posting out loud!
Anita
Anita, I've watched TN for ten years or more, starting with Salome so I am no newbie to them. However I only found this website just over a year ago and it has really enhanced our TN viewing. We watch them keep up our Spanish but also enjoy the story lines for the most part. Familia was a wonderful diversion from the typical TN format. I watched soaps eons ago and they aren't much different.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 11:40:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 11:40:00 AM EDT
Mea culpa--you are definitely a more worthy critic than I. My vewing pleasure only goes back to Sortilegio and ENDA, with a dab of Amor Real, Alborada and MEPS thrown in when rebroadcast (and probably drawn to who the galan was in these last 3....).
If you wouldn't mind sharing, which are your top-rated favorites. And is it because of the story line, the actors or a combination.
Anita
If you wouldn't mind sharing, which are your top-rated favorites. And is it because of the story line, the actors or a combination.
Anita
Conejita, thank you for joining us here. I too like the rock climbing, it is way different from what I've seen of other TN's. I like the concept. I too am trying to keep the characters straight. I took me till the fourth epi to find out the Don's henchman's name. I think after awhile it will easy to remember.
Anita- Right now I am sick of Rogelio. I read the recaps of LQPNA but rarely watch. I love all the recappers work over there.
Anita- Right now I am sick of Rogelio. I read the recaps of LQPNA but rarely watch. I love all the recappers work over there.
The scene with Julieta and the friend:
Julieta and her friend were talking about the tragedy of Patricio's accident. Juleita says how she doesn't even want to imagine how the press is going to bother them. The friend asks Julieta if she thinks that this tragedy will affect Gala's plans with Rodrigo. Julieta says that it shouldn't but that she thinks that it will affect the plans a little since Rdorigo was with Patricio when the accident happened and now the poor guy must be feeling guilty. The friend says your poor daughter because those things you can't get over that easily. Julieta says that its nothing that money can't fix. You just put him in a good therapy and thats it. Then they start talking about the money that Rodrigo's family has. The friend asks if the family has any dirty business going on because one never knows. Well I know says Juelita who do you think that you are talking to she says. Julieta mentions how she investigaed them. Julieta says that Maximino started as an employee but he worked his way up and won the cofidence of the big boss and then the big boss not Maximino committed a big fraud and went to prison and guess who won? Maximino says Julieta. Juelita says that they have to admit that her father-in-law is an intelligent business man. The friend is like your future father in law. Juelita says that the wedding is a matter of just a few days. Julieta says how Rodrigo is very much in love with Gala. She says that Rodrigo is crazy for Gala. The friend mentions how Gala is beautiful. Julieta mentions how Gala is a sucessful executive and how she's also just as a sucessful as Rordigo. Then they make a toast for the future wedding.
Julieta and her friend were talking about the tragedy of Patricio's accident. Juleita says how she doesn't even want to imagine how the press is going to bother them. The friend asks Julieta if she thinks that this tragedy will affect Gala's plans with Rodrigo. Julieta says that it shouldn't but that she thinks that it will affect the plans a little since Rdorigo was with Patricio when the accident happened and now the poor guy must be feeling guilty. The friend says your poor daughter because those things you can't get over that easily. Julieta says that its nothing that money can't fix. You just put him in a good therapy and thats it. Then they start talking about the money that Rodrigo's family has. The friend asks if the family has any dirty business going on because one never knows. Well I know says Juelita who do you think that you are talking to she says. Julieta mentions how she investigaed them. Julieta says that Maximino started as an employee but he worked his way up and won the cofidence of the big boss and then the big boss not Maximino committed a big fraud and went to prison and guess who won? Maximino says Julieta. Juelita says that they have to admit that her father-in-law is an intelligent business man. The friend is like your future father in law. Juelita says that the wedding is a matter of just a few days. Julieta says how Rodrigo is very much in love with Gala. She says that Rodrigo is crazy for Gala. The friend mentions how Gala is beautiful. Julieta mentions how Gala is a sucessful executive and how she's also just as a sucessful as Rordigo. Then they make a toast for the future wedding.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 1:21:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 1:21:00 PM EDT
Anon 121- Thank you so much for the info. Now I have a clearer picture. So Maximo worked his way from the bottom up. That is interesting. I am not liking Julietta now. You know her charactor is like what she played in Dinero, except more ambitious here. And she did rat the family out to the press.
I get the impression Gala and her mom after Rogelia solely because of his family's wealth and position. Two oro diggers. Anyone else have this take?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:07:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:07:00 PM EDT
sorry, Gala y moms is after Rogelio.......
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:08:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:08:00 PM EDT
I can't help thinking that creepy housekeeper is a guy in drag. She looks like Juan Fererra minus his sexy voice. This one seems to be tracking with the earlier version I saw and is a tad slow starting. I'm not crazy about the Rodrigio character but that may just because i'm not a Soto fan. Am sticking but do wish it were just an hour.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:49:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:49:00 PM EDT
Decie Girl, when I first saw the creepy housekeepeer I thought that she was a man! LOL
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:53:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:53:00 PM EDT
You're Welcome, Madelaine! I am glad to have been able to help!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
Add my voice to thinking that creepy housekeeper was a man!
Anita, My favorite TNs go back a ways with Ruby, Piel de Otono, La Fea Mas Bella, Amar Sin Limites, Los Tontos no Van al Cielo, Soy tu Duena and recently Una Familia con Suerte. Generally I will like them because of the characters/actors. The story line needs to be interesting of course. No matter how much I may like a TN, they always seem to fall apart at the end, like the writer hasn't a clue how to wrap it up.
I have quit a few after a couple weeks also, generally do to the story line but the actors are also a factor. Contra Viento y Marea, Un Gancho al Corazon, LQNPA and El Talisman. I quit when I find myself screaming at the TV early on in the series.
Anita, My favorite TNs go back a ways with Ruby, Piel de Otono, La Fea Mas Bella, Amar Sin Limites, Los Tontos no Van al Cielo, Soy tu Duena and recently Una Familia con Suerte. Generally I will like them because of the characters/actors. The story line needs to be interesting of course. No matter how much I may like a TN, they always seem to fall apart at the end, like the writer hasn't a clue how to wrap it up.
I have quit a few after a couple weeks also, generally do to the story line but the actors are also a factor. Contra Viento y Marea, Un Gancho al Corazon, LQNPA and El Talisman. I quit when I find myself screaming at the TV early on in the series.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 4:12:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 4:12:00 PM EDT
Vivi, this TN sucks. I'm going to continue to watch it because it is so bad. I'd ask you to watch it again, but I like you too much! I recapped several episodes of El Tal. At least Antonio is nice to look at. Let's begin with the heroine's headband (that annoys me). Again, the little boy (who is he why is he there? I missed that part of it.) screams out ALL of his lines. The lead MAN won't stop crying. The villian looks like a villian from a silent movie...the one's with the thick mustaches. The villian's side kick annoyed me. The heroine was in a tunnel and someone dressed as a bear with mange calls her name. If I was recapping this, I would have a field day! The only good thing I have to say about the whole thing is that the lead actor looks great in a suit. In that church scene, he was D LISH US. I will continue to watch, because to me (in my opinion only) this just might be the dumbest TN that I have ever watched.
Great recap Madelaine!
I remember the train scene from Morelia! They used it here as well but many things are new I think.
I think it's understandable that Rodrigo is so sad now. His brother had a terrible accident while they went climbing a mountain and I can't imagine the frustration and fright of being in that position of not being able to help him quickly and now feeling the guilt of everything.
Cynderella, Luciana is supposed to be a Rarámuri, that's why she wears the headband since that's one of the most noticeable things about their clothing. One of our presidential candidates wore it too when he went campaigning to the Tarahumara towns in Chihuahua this year.
I think the old lady is sipposed to be a Sukúruame which is a kind of chaman that can heal but also has the power to make people sick so the communities respect them but fear them. There's another tipe of chaman called "Owirúame" which is only a healer and they are more integrated with the rest of the community. I looked them up yesterday so I'm not the best source but it made sense that the old lady was a chaman.
Jarocha
I remember the train scene from Morelia! They used it here as well but many things are new I think.
I think it's understandable that Rodrigo is so sad now. His brother had a terrible accident while they went climbing a mountain and I can't imagine the frustration and fright of being in that position of not being able to help him quickly and now feeling the guilt of everything.
Cynderella, Luciana is supposed to be a Rarámuri, that's why she wears the headband since that's one of the most noticeable things about their clothing. One of our presidential candidates wore it too when he went campaigning to the Tarahumara towns in Chihuahua this year.
I think the old lady is sipposed to be a Sukúruame which is a kind of chaman that can heal but also has the power to make people sick so the communities respect them but fear them. There's another tipe of chaman called "Owirúame" which is only a healer and they are more integrated with the rest of the community. I looked them up yesterday so I'm not the best source but it made sense that the old lady was a chaman.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 5:29:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 5:29:00 PM EDT
First--Jarocha, thanks for weighing in so frequently to expand our knowledge of Mexican styles, culture, customs and mas.
@Conejita--I haven't seen any of your favorites, but I've seen Ruby on amazon. I'll look for the others. You seem to lean toward light comedy, no? (I tend to put Soy Tu Duena in the light comedy category, hehe.)
Anita
Anita
@Conejita--I haven't seen any of your favorites, but I've seen Ruby on amazon. I'll look for the others. You seem to lean toward light comedy, no? (I tend to put Soy Tu Duena in the light comedy category, hehe.)
Anita
Anita
Cynderella- I am familiar with your recaps for El Tal and they were great. Thanks for the comment, and hey, we are looking for a Tuesday recapper if you are interested, jus' sayin' lol.
Anon 253 and Decie girl- the woman that plays the housekeeper Bridiga also played Griselda in CS 2009 the gypsy woman.
Jarocha, thank you so much for the info you provided. I too agree she is a type of Shaman. The American Indians in the U.S. here have them too. The only thing that creeps me out about Sabina is that she appears out of nowhere and disappears into thin air. More like a skinwalker than a Shaman. I wonder if she is good or bad? She seems to be warning Luciana about hard times ahead, maybe. She is an interesting character costume and all. It looks like maybe wolf pelts.
Anon 253 and Decie girl- the woman that plays the housekeeper Bridiga also played Griselda in CS 2009 the gypsy woman.
Jarocha, thank you so much for the info you provided. I too agree she is a type of Shaman. The American Indians in the U.S. here have them too. The only thing that creeps me out about Sabina is that she appears out of nowhere and disappears into thin air. More like a skinwalker than a Shaman. I wonder if she is good or bad? She seems to be warning Luciana about hard times ahead, maybe. She is an interesting character costume and all. It looks like maybe wolf pelts.
Oh, and about the Rodrigo crying. I can understand why. Truly, the poor guy is riddled with guilt over what happened to his brother and how his dad, Maximo keeps blaming him. Also there was another galan who cried buckets of tears. For those of you that watched Destilando Amor, that Rodrigo cried alot too, but over his lost love. I think it is sexy, that a guy, big and strong, can cry like that. It is unusual, but shows a softer side.
I've only seen the first episode but I got the impression that the town Luciana lives in down the slope of the mountains and it's clear the rarámuris living there have integrated with the rest of the Chihuahuan civilization.
There are rarámuri communities that live higher up the mountains and they have their own rules, religion and governants, they follow their own principles and try to mantain themselves in a "pure" state, untouched by everything that might affect their way of living.
I think Sabina could be one of them, Luciana's dad seemed alarmed and asked her why she was there in the first episode. She must live with the other communities and maybe she only comes down the mountains to warn the rest of the rarámuris when bad things are coming.
Jarocha
There are rarámuri communities that live higher up the mountains and they have their own rules, religion and governants, they follow their own principles and try to mantain themselves in a "pure" state, untouched by everything that might affect their way of living.
I think Sabina could be one of them, Luciana's dad seemed alarmed and asked her why she was there in the first episode. She must live with the other communities and maybe she only comes down the mountains to warn the rest of the rarámuris when bad things are coming.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 10:04:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 10:04:00 PM EDT
Anita,
Soy tu Duena light comedy? You've got to be kidding.
All, thanks for wonderful info on Sabina and the culture Luciana lives in. Love the little village.
Soy tu Duena light comedy? You've got to be kidding.
All, thanks for wonderful info on Sabina and the culture Luciana lives in. Love the little village.
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 28, 2012 at 11:17:00 AM EDT
: Monday, May 28, 2012 at 11:17:00 AM EDT
Anon at 11:17
Yep; there was a lot to laugh at and snark about (pull our hair, tighten our beanies, throw things at the tv, swig excessively, scare lap cats) in STuD--just read the recaps and comments. The only thing we didn't do is dress up in red garb and head gear on a special occasion, as when watching CME.
Anita
Yep; there was a lot to laugh at and snark about (pull our hair, tighten our beanies, throw things at the tv, swig excessively, scare lap cats) in STuD--just read the recaps and comments. The only thing we didn't do is dress up in red garb and head gear on a special occasion, as when watching CME.
Anita
Jarocha- I checked out your link. I really like the clothing in this TN, and how it shows the culture of the puebla. I agree with you, I think the village is toward the lower end of the mountain, and some of the homes are built into the side of the rock. Rodrigo and Patricio had to go a ways up. I think you are right about Sabina too. I don't think she's bad, I think she felt she had to warn Luciana. It's just weird how she appears and disappears. I don't think she's bad really because of the way she looked at Luciana when she talked to her, there was compassion there.
Hello, I'm sorry that offended anyone over Refugio, but I am a very shallow person. I don't get that deep into the TNs. I don't get into why they do stuff or what is the motivation behind their actions. In my recaps, nothing escapes me. I normally comment on everyone's clothing, hair, mothers, cars, pets and ALL male physique. ESPECIALLY if the men look good (Aron Diaz, DiZzy (David Zepeda) and the guy that plays Gambino on Abismo (he wants me).
Madelaine, if I wasn't taking classes right now, I would take you up on it.
Madelaine, if I wasn't taking classes right now, I would take you up on it.
Anon actually there was no train scene in Morelia.She sneaked across the border with some coyotes but the hero's first look at her was when he saw her crouched down by a car while avoiding the migra. The village scenes here track totally with Morelia but we never saw the accident that hurt the hero's brother. They refered to it as a speed boat accident and someone asked if there were mountian climbing scenes in the one I saw and of course there weren't because it took place in Miami.
I will be interested to see how Laura Flores develops in this one since in Morelia the mother was a screaming witch and Flores specializes in weeping weaklings.
I will be interested to see how Laura Flores develops in this one since in Morelia the mother was a screaming witch and Flores specializes in weeping weaklings.
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 28, 2012 at 4:30:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 28, 2012 at 4:30:00 PM EDT
Yeah I agree with you conejita, as much as I like a TN, the end is usually not as good as the beginning. Idk maybe I just like drama and unresolved conflict more hahaha
Yeah also wish that it was only an hour, but going to try to keep watching when I can. Thanks to the recappers for their dedication!
jlk
Yeah also wish that it was only an hour, but going to try to keep watching when I can. Thanks to the recappers for their dedication!
jlk
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 28, 2012 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 28, 2012 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
Cynderella, I don't think anyone was offended by your comment, especially if they have seen your El Tal and Abismo recaps. hilarious. Too bad you are taking classes, I bet you would snark this one up big time.
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