Wednesday, August 29, 2012
Amor Bravío #17 (Uni 12) Tue 8/28/12 Andres/Daniel mucks out the bull***t as Dionicio keeps dishing it out.
strolling through the park. She tsk tsks, calling him un cínico (shameless). Agustina suddenly appears and scares the begeesus out of her. Agustina finds her to be jittery and wonders if she’s in a bad mood. Camila assures her it’s nothing of the kind and they eventually climb in the car, Agustina driving of course.
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I have a hard time watching and not thinking how everyone on this ought to also be smelling of bull***t too, literally. I mean seriously, I grew up on a farm. Andres should have been quite ripe after he finished his mucking out.
I just want to slap Augustina. I did not like her in Alborado, and she seems to be playing the same role here.
Thanks for the recap. I finally got at least the Spanish subtitles to appear (Need to be a computer programmer!), so that helped.
Cindy
She starts to lay on the compliments as he plays with his claws.
No response from Kimodo jr.
Oh, ok – she allows him to kiss her on the cheek then pats him on the head like a good little dragon.
I wanted to slap Augustina flat for the "two defenseless women" remark. I still hear this in real life and it really angers me that any woman in a free country still thinks this way. After being married to a man who abused and fleeced her she is refusing to see Alonssso's abuse.
Mucking out the stables has to be the lowest job on this ranch. You think the komodo hates the stallion?
It looks like the lawyer spots Daniel in tonight's episode so here's hoping he can set him straight about Camila.
I think she was spreading around the b.s. herself when she was talking up Alonso's manliness to him. Now that she knows what his problem is, she thinks she can help him out by building up his sense of manhood. It did sort of work. It put him in a better mood, at least for the moment.
Then Al went from being manipulated with compliments from his mother-in-law, to being manipulated by admonishments from Mommy Dearest. That was a creepy scene, but well acted.
For once I would like to see our galans come to logical conclusions when it comes to our heroines. OK. Dan keeps hearing from people he sees as being good people that Camila is a great person. He knows he got his job sight unseen because of her and she went against her husband's orders to make it happen. She did this as a favor to Nat. Everyone also tells him that it's her husband who likes to go around acting like he's the owner and being a jerk to everyone, and since he married Cami, he's gotten worse. The logical conclusion would be that it's the husband who's dirty and would do what it takes to get his hands on the ranch. NOT CAMILA! But no. Dan thinks it HAS to be Camila who plotted to get him out of the way to get her hands on the ranch.
But the news he got at the end about his own parentage must have been a huge blow to the gut.
I also enjoyed the same Alonssso zingers and the Mommie Dearest nickname.
*Ay Papi* is right! Other than a few automobile commercials, I've only seen CdLF in one other TN called "Sonar no Cuesta Nada". He was the only bright spot in an otherwise horrendously bad story.
Can't wait to see who Mariano's business associates are... and how they will end up being related to our main peeps.
Cindy/UA - yes on slapping Augustina. I really hate how the mother who was in abusive relationship keeps telling her daughter to have patience with Alonso. This is not a patience issue; he's an abuser and needs counseling which he refuses to get.
Vivi - yes I would like Dan to use that brain of his a bit more. Glad he realized it could be the inheirtance that "trigger" his bad circumstances but lets look at the characters before placing judgement. While I know you can't go by appearances, the visual difference b/t Cami's husband and Cami is vast and its easy to project which one is good or bad. And though she did get feisty with him, Dan was being a stalker however fine he is.
LoriLoo - good guess about Paolo friends being connected to other people we already know.
Daniel needs to stay at the ranch to eavesdrop and figure out what mess he's getting himself into. But on the other hand, working for the lawyer could give him the opportunity to look at papers regarding his inheritance and everything associated with that. Maybe he can work at both places.
(I know, I know, dream on...)
I give Dan "some" slack regarding Camila b/c he's been processing three conflicting sets of information:
1) After discussing his situation with the real Andres, he figures the most likely person to want him out of the way would be Camila, who would have inherited if he weren't named in the will, and who will inherit if he doesn't present himself.
2)He's being told by all of the ranch staff that Camila is a really sweet and good person, just the best, but that husband of hers...just yuk.
3)He sees that the ranch is HUGE and Camila is being rude and snotty to him, telling him to know his place and she is the dueña etc. which conflicts with the "good & sweet Camila" picture he's been given by the ranch staff.
If everyone tells me "Sally" is nice, but Sally is always rude to me, who am I going to believe? Everyone who says Sally is nice or myself, who is experiencing Sally being rude.
Now Dan has an additional piece of information, that he is this man's "long lost foreign son" and THAT'S why he was named as the heir out of the blue. This also means he's Camila's "cousin"...so he's going to shut down any romantic overtures he may have made towards her.
PURPLE WATCH: Augustina, in her suit with purple roses, checks out her new date night dress/blouse which also happens to be purple.
Come here, Daniel. Let me wash you down. *tee hee*
The scene with Isa and El Diablo was great. He is so perceptive and so willing to go to any lengths to get what he wants. I worry for Auggie's future if he follows thru and marries her.
And that scene with Alonssso's head on Isa's lap was dys-turbing. Eeuww!
I'm wondering if Isa's and Al's 'gaslighting' Camila is part of Isa's plan to neutralize Camila if she applies for divorce or annulment. Right now their efforts are directed towards getting control over Camila, but I think Isa is also thinking about what could happen if Camila decides she's had enough of the lizard and wants out of the marriage. As the suffering husband and the long time administrator for the ranch, Alonssso could make a strong case for compensation for all his efforts.
I'm really loving this TN. The acting is excellent, and the story is moving along at a good pace. So far the writers seem to be treating viewerville
And did I see correctly that in the advances the padre recognizes D'Andres in church?
Anya
As for Dan-- Cami has been snotty to him twice, after she realized he was stalking her. The first time in the restaurant she was perfectly nice. She was totally justified the other times. In their last conversation she was actually saying he should have a BETTER job. He's the one who brought up the knowing my place line.
I too would like for D'Andres to work for the lawyer, but he wouldn't be able to find out what is going on at the ranch, like most of you said.
Anon 207- So agree with you about what you said about Camila and D'Andres. He is judging from what he himself is seeing, not what people are telling him about her.
I like Rene Strickler. He is a great actor, I have seen him in PVAA and DA. I hope he is a good guy here. I too wonder who Mariano's clients will be. Does he train bulls for bullfights? Was he a bullfighter maybe?
OT: Christian de la Fuente was also on a USA network series called In Plain Sight, about the US Marshall Service and he played the love interest of the main character. They showed alot of his bare chest, hubba hubba, jus' sayin'. Oh, and his English is perfect.
Anon207- I like D'Andres's hair. But I love his eyes. They are piercing. It's funny that someone mentioned his appearance on Dancing with Stars, so I looked it up. I haven't watched many season's of that show, but I did happen to watch that one. So I was wondering why I hadn't noticed him. Turns out it's the same season that Mario Lopez was on, so that explained it for me. Poor Mario was robbed of that title. He was, and has been since, the best dancer on that show, and he didn't even get to win it. I hadn't watched since then until William Levy was on it last season. Now I want to see Jorge Salinas on it.
I felt sorry for his character Renato in Corazon Salvaje '09 when his dippy wife didn't want him but wanted Juan instead (again played by Edward Yanez).
So I'm glad to see him here, not playing second banana to anyone else.
I enjoyed watching Augustina fall under Dionisio's spell. She shyly agreed to participate in dinner and anything else he might want to do.
Did I miss something early on in this show? Why is Daniel so certain that Camila is the one responsible for all his suffering? Is it simply because she is the default heiress?
Carlos
Did you guys notice that Cami sometimes calls her mom by her first name when she's scolding her or teasing her?
And it was the padre.
Bulls are not trained for the bullring; they are traditionally isolated from encountering people on foot until they are actually turned loose in the ring. See the links I posted yesterday on this subject.
Many retired matadors go on to have ranches and some breed fighting bulls. Who knows; Camila's tio could have been one.
I too thought that I caught that about Camilla's adoption. My Spanish is only at a beginning level though, so I assumed I did not hear it.
That would make it possible for C & D to canoodle, right or does that simply mean that her uncle adopted his niece?
CindyL
I want to know what's with Leoncio? Why is such a slovenly bully the foreman of Malquerida? Piedad, Luzma and even Natalia seem afraid of him. He likes to corner them, but they don't seem sufficiently annoyed to me. They seem to regard him as a nuisance more than a threat.
Another question--would Dionisio know what Daniel looks like? Didn't he send a photographer to Chile right away to find him (to inform the hitman of his hit, I presume)? Did he see those photos?
my first Telenovela, Amor Bravio. First
off, thanks to all the recappers and
commenters alike. You make my experience
very enjoyable.
I am amused by the recappers' use of
nicknames. They are very humorous at
times, but also cause a little confusion
for me. A couple of questions:
Is there a character by the name, Dante,
or is this a reference to Dionisio?
What is the name of the policeman who
answers to Abraham?
Does Alonso always wear red? An allusion
to Diablo?
Some commenters have offered future
pairings. I have one: Ximena and
Viviana. That would be muy caliante.
Okay, so I do know a little Spanish.
Finally, I would like to correspond by
email with someone to help with my
interpretation of the Spanish used in
Amor Bravio, I would be more than
willing to help with English. I do
realize the people here speak and write
better English than I do, but I am a
native and familiar with the idiom.
My email address is
donsdx at gmail dot com.
Gracias, Don.
Dante is Daniel/Andres' friend from Chile. He is the one who sold Miriam the insurance policy.
Miriam's brother is the policeman and his name is really Abraham.
I never noticed that Alonso always wears red, but that is a good catch!
I too noticed that Camila calls her mother by name when she is irritated with her. I ahve to agree with Anon207's comments about Andres with regards to his feelings about Camila despite what people had said. But it should be noted that it should not be long before he knows Camila is a good girl and NOT the enemy. The people he should be wary of are Dionisio,Alonso and Isadora.
I know this won't happen until the end, but I'm really anxious to see Agustina's face when it is revealed that Andres and Daniel are the same person. The very person she thinks is an opportunist and a bastard is the same nice guy she ran over. Can't wait to say Vaya,Vaya, Vaya... ;)
Ibarramedia
Robey
Regarding Camila's using her mother's given name, I remember in Destilando Amor, Gaviota went back and forth all the time with her mother, using tu, Usted, and Clarita with almost equal frequency. There never seemed to be rhyme or reason, except that the Ud. usually showed up when the discussion was more heated.
Good to see Rene Strickler arrive. I was afraid he would be a last-minute addition. He seems rarely to get the girl, but does a nice job. A good exception was PVAA where he really was the ultimate good guy.
Ibarramedia
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