Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Por ella soy Eva #40 9/11/12: Goodbye, Antonia
I turned on the tv at 7:55 and we were already in full swing! Adri is very upset about his sister in the hospital, in a diabetic coma. He tells his baby girlfriend Paula to value her loved ones "Because life evaporates quickly."
Many of the GI employees want to visit Toni. Fer feels sort of guilty for being so beastly to her; he and Santi now realize she'd always been nice to them. Pluto and Rebe pretend to care.
My tv went dead. When it came back Eva told Mimi on the phone: "I have the keys to Toni's house. I need somebody who can crack a safe."
Jesus and his daughter (Adri's baby girlfriend) come to the hospital. The doctor tells everyone Toni is deteriorating faster than he'd expected, they can't get her out of her diabetic coma and her blood pressure is higher, it's less likely she'll recover. Pluto takes his fake agonies around the corner and there prays to God that she'll die right NOW!
Adriano cries over his sister: I never told you what a great woman I think you are. I am so proud to be your brother. Her eyes flutter! Then she appears to be dead, it must be time for a commercial. While hugging his inconsolable brother-in-law, Pluto mouths his thanks to God for killing Toni.
Helena calls Eva to say Toni just died. Eva, mournfully, to the air: "You left too soon, my dear friend. I hope you pardon me from heaven and believe what I told you, I'll remember you with affection. You were always my beautiful woman."
I thought the commercial might revive her but no, now it's the wake. "Tony is an angel now, we'll miss her," Eva consoles Adri, who says: "She opened her eyes and looked at me before she died." "She was saying goodbye." "She wanted to tell me something." Pluto is pretending he cared. "I can't live without my Antonia." He embraces Helena.
Eva feels guilty. Mimi says it's not her/his fault.
"We shared so many things, our office for instance," sobs Rebe.
Everybody worries for Adri, he has no family now. Juan Carlos's father consoles him too. "She asked me to start a family," Adri says, staring at Paola. JC to Mimi: "And there's my dad, he's suffering all over again, and I can't tell him how much I miss him, and my mother."
We must FF past Pluto's hypocritical hysterics. Shortly we find him at home, pouring a huge goblet of champagne and insulting his wife's ashes. The doorbell rings, he hides the champagne, but it's Rebe! who's ready to start interior decorating "our" house, "finally we'll be together after all these years." She's dreaming about all the shares he'll have inherited. He says they have to pretend sorrow for a while.
Helena's medical insurance is not going to cover his current expenses. There was a mysterious expense 25 years ago and because of that, their benefits have run out (then why are they still paying?????). Sylvia had some serious problem. When Helena asks her mom what it was, her mom nervously lies to her and runs out of the room.
Adri tells Eva: "You were a big consolation to Toni, you were the friend she always wanted to have. And I want to thank your cousin Mimi for helping out too." Adri hints at a big decision to be announced shortly.
JC gripes to Mimi: "I don't have any reason to go to the house now, how will I get in to find Pluto's secrets?" Helena calls and says "I'm going to visit Pluto because he's so sad about his wife's death." JC howls! Then decides to give a surprise to the widower.
Adri invites Paula to her dad's favorite restaurant, he doesn't care who sees them. He proposes marriage.
The show ended a half hour early.
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"Adri tells Eva: "You were a big consolation to Toni, you were the friend she always wanted to have. And I want to thank your cousin Mimi for helping out too." Adri hints at a big decision to be announced shortly."
Does this mean that Adri is going to give Antonia shares in Grupo to Eva and Mimi instead of the Putz? Since we have at least 100 episodes to go this would sure keep the kettle boiling.
RP
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Oh no! Folks, I have been deep in mixing a new cd and not been able to read the comments or I would have known the show started an HOUR EARLY!! tonight. I missed it. Can somebody fill in for me?
Melinama, you got the important parts, the only important part that is missing is Antonia going home to think things thru, about what Juan told her, after she discovered he wasn't really Eva, and she walks in on Rebeca and Pluto in bed. They were mocking her before she got into the bedroom, and she heard every word. It was very sad. She confronts Pluto and she sees, I think, that Juan was right all along, and she wants to throw him out in the street along with Rebeca. I wish she had fired Rebeca on the spot, but she calls her on her psuedo friendship and she wants to call Adriano, but Pluto grabs her cellphone, so Antonia runs out of the house, her and Pluto have more words then Antonia stops, like a person having a heart attack, and falls to the ground. Pluto doesn't really do anything, and about this time Eva comes to the house and calls for an ambulance. Pluto would have done nothing.
Oh, I was so sad that Antonia died. I hated the way she died too, and what Pluto and Rebeca did to her. Poor Juan feels like it is his fault, but really it was Pluto's. Pluto is dead to me, and I hope a huge anvil hits him when the time comes. Now it looks like he will try to conquer Helena pretty quickly, but he's forgetting how Rebeca is when she is crossed. I wonder how Juan will get the proof he needs now. It seems that Adriano is leaning on Eva now. That was interesting and he mentioned Mimi too. I hope Adriano does NOT marry Paola. She is way too young for him and an emotional wreck.
I came in a bit late (really could not get home any earlier) and of course I hadn't set my machine to tape earlier because I didn't know until lunch!
From the hallway, Antonia hears Rebeca and Pluti saying horrible, ghastly things about how fat she is, and then she walks in on them. Pluto tries to backpedal and say he loves her, but Rebeca continues saying cruel things with a sick grin on her face, hoping to provoke that heart attack. She also tells Toni that she and Pluto have been fooling around for as long as she's been married and he only married her for the money and the company shares. And they can't wait for her to drop dead.
Toni threatens to tell her brother everything and leave Pluto without even the clothes on his back. He threatens her, but she knees him in the nuts and runs away. Unfortunately she keels over backwards just as Eva arrives.
So Eva isn't sure if it was from the shock of finding out that she's JC, and/or if she told Pluto. (She has no idea what really happened.) The guilt is driving her crazy.
Also, this is when Adriano finds out she had diabetes and all those other health issues.
When Adriano first asked Paola to come see him at the hospital she refused, didn't think it sounded like any fun. When she showed up later with her father I think she asked Adrian if they could go to his office and get it on. Yuck.
Again, I am REALLY angry that Uni did this. OK, so soccer gets priority, fine. But this wasn't just any episode. They should have showed a rerun instead and saved this episode for another night.
From the hallway, Antonia hears Rebeca and Pluti saying horrible, ghastly things about how fat she is, and then she walks in on them. Pluto tries to backpedal and say he loves her, but Rebeca continues saying cruel things with a sick grin on her face, hoping to provoke that heart attack. She also tells Toni that she and Pluto have been fooling around for as long as she's been married and he only married her for the money and the company shares. And they can't wait for her to drop dead.
Toni threatens to tell her brother everything and leave Pluto without even the clothes on his back. He threatens her, but she knees him in the nuts and runs away. Unfortunately she keels over backwards just as Eva arrives.
So Eva isn't sure if it was from the shock of finding out that she's JC, and/or if she told Pluto. (She has no idea what really happened.) The guilt is driving her crazy.
Also, this is when Adriano finds out she had diabetes and all those other health issues.
When Adriano first asked Paola to come see him at the hospital she refused, didn't think it sounded like any fun. When she showed up later with her father I think she asked Adrian if they could go to his office and get it on. Yuck.
Again, I am REALLY angry that Uni did this. OK, so soccer gets priority, fine. But this wasn't just any episode. They should have showed a rerun instead and saved this episode for another night.
Ack! Thanks Madelaine, you beat me to it. And thanks Melinama for that last half hour, which was so frustrating I could hardly watch it. I was so sure that Pluto was going to wake up from some happy dream only to realize that Antonia was still safe and happy in Acapulco.
This is the saddest death I've seen in a TN since Fafy Cuenca. :-(
This is the saddest death I've seen in a TN since Fafy Cuenca. :-(
Yeah, this was really hard to watch. Antonia's death was a harsh surprise. I was looking forward to her and Juan's new relationship growing deeper now that she knew the truth. But the awful way Pluto and Rebeca were talking about her that she overheard was too painful. And with Antonia already wondering if her best friend Eva had been playing her for the fool also. People deserve to leave this life with a sense of peace, not so much self-doubt. I was yelling for her to get out of the house because I thought Pluto was going to strangle her. And thinking to myself this whole mess has way left the realm of a comedy. The show suddenly got very dark.
CHF & Madelaine, thank you both for the recap.
I think this was two episodes. It was 1-1/2 hours and there were very few commercial breaks.
Toni death was shocking, I really didn't expect it so soon. She was one of the few people that I liked at Grupo. Too bad it happened the way it did because now JC feels really guilty.
Rosemary Primera
I think this was two episodes. It was 1-1/2 hours and there were very few commercial breaks.
Toni death was shocking, I really didn't expect it so soon. She was one of the few people that I liked at Grupo. Too bad it happened the way it did because now JC feels really guilty.
Rosemary Primera
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: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 10:25:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 10:25:00 PM EDT
Another fantasy I entertained during this episode was that Toni had somehow faked her death (again, same as my reaction to Fafy Cuenca) and would come back to fake-haunt Plutarcho.
Now that she's been cremated, however, it seems unlikely.
But JC could fake-haunt Plutarcho. I would enjoy that.
I'm also rescinding my wish for the Monty Python foot. Pluto deserves the nastiest, rustiest, tetanus-ridden anvil available.
Now that she's been cremated, however, it seems unlikely.
But JC could fake-haunt Plutarcho. I would enjoy that.
I'm also rescinding my wish for the Monty Python foot. Pluto deserves the nastiest, rustiest, tetanus-ridden anvil available.
I wasn't prepared for this, either, but with more than 100 episodes to go I'm not sure what they could have done with Antonia knowing the secret. Since she wasn't yet willing to believe that Plutarco was using her there may have been no alternative.
Aaaahhhhhh! NO NO NO!! No puede ser!
I was late for the beginning (car service, essential shopping) and so missed the entire Pluto/Antonia confrontation. By the time I saw anything, Antonia was already in a coma in the hospital.
Thanks y'all for filling in the details. I am crushed, just crushed. I really wanted Antonia to develop as a person and kick Pluto to the curb. I was sure she would revive. I am so sad/angry that she's gone.
La Paloma
I was late for the beginning (car service, essential shopping) and so missed the entire Pluto/Antonia confrontation. By the time I saw anything, Antonia was already in a coma in the hospital.
Thanks y'all for filling in the details. I am crushed, just crushed. I really wanted Antonia to develop as a person and kick Pluto to the curb. I was sure she would revive. I am so sad/angry that she's gone.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 10:51:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 10:51:00 PM EDT
Hi All,
I agree that it was wrong to kill off Antonia. The writers show their shallowness. They don't know how a man and woman can just be good friends.
Let alone an obese woman be friends with a cross-dresser. For whatever reason.
Friendship is a difficult thing to understand, I guess.
I will miss Antonia. I will not miss the fat jokes.
I will watch the rest and comment later.
Peace to all, Tiempe.
I agree that it was wrong to kill off Antonia. The writers show their shallowness. They don't know how a man and woman can just be good friends.
Let alone an obese woman be friends with a cross-dresser. For whatever reason.
Friendship is a difficult thing to understand, I guess.
I will miss Antonia. I will not miss the fat jokes.
I will watch the rest and comment later.
Peace to all, Tiempe.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 11:02:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 11:02:00 PM EDT
Thanks Melinama and thanks Mads and Julie for filling the first part in.
Why??!! Porque??!! Toni was one of my favorite characters. I was hoping that she would back out of the room before Pluto and Rebe saw her, and then join forces with Eva/JC to secretly bring Pluto down and find out the truth. Sadly, no.
Another thing that happened was that Fernando almost has sex with the chippie he met at the pool. They go up to a room and the Evaetts see them enter (I hope this comes back to bite him in the butt). The only thing that stops stupid Fern from doing the deed with the chippie is that her name turns out to be Jennifer-- the same as his daughter. This brings him back to his senses (after many sloppy kisses), and he immediately returns home, drunk, to his wife, babbling about their honeymoon night many years ago and falls asleep on her.
I think we know what happened to Silvia over 25 years ago. Many here have already suggested that Silvia lost a boy child and it was Bastardo's fault. She admitted to Helena that she "fell" down the stairs when Helena was 4. What do you want to bet that Bastardo pushed her in a rage and caused her to lose their (boy) baby. What I want to know is why she would stay with a monster like that and take his abuse day after day?
Was this the first time that we saw Mimi's godson? The kid in the yellow pants? I may have missed an episode he appeared in already.
Why??!! Porque??!! Toni was one of my favorite characters. I was hoping that she would back out of the room before Pluto and Rebe saw her, and then join forces with Eva/JC to secretly bring Pluto down and find out the truth. Sadly, no.
Another thing that happened was that Fernando almost has sex with the chippie he met at the pool. They go up to a room and the Evaetts see them enter (I hope this comes back to bite him in the butt). The only thing that stops stupid Fern from doing the deed with the chippie is that her name turns out to be Jennifer-- the same as his daughter. This brings him back to his senses (after many sloppy kisses), and he immediately returns home, drunk, to his wife, babbling about their honeymoon night many years ago and falls asleep on her.
I think we know what happened to Silvia over 25 years ago. Many here have already suggested that Silvia lost a boy child and it was Bastardo's fault. She admitted to Helena that she "fell" down the stairs when Helena was 4. What do you want to bet that Bastardo pushed her in a rage and caused her to lose their (boy) baby. What I want to know is why she would stay with a monster like that and take his abuse day after day?
Was this the first time that we saw Mimi's godson? The kid in the yellow pants? I may have missed an episode he appeared in already.
I'm relatively new to novelas but am really enjoying this one because of the comedy. You can tell the actors are having fun and not just spewing memorized lines. But it's missing something that I've seen in every other novela. I.e., the home shrine to our lady of guadalupe, or at least someone who prays to her (even the evil ones that pray for their evil plots to hatch). Has anyone seen her and I just missed it? It's like 'find the Pope in the Pizza.' Phillygrrl
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 1:54:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 1:54:00 AM EDT
In addition to the obvious change - Antonia's death - we have some other big changes. I'm sure we're moving into a new stage.
1. Adriano proposed to the chippie. But also she offered him zero support at his lowest point. And a death makes you look at life more open-eyed. I predict his relationship with the chippie will change soon.
2. Fernando got darned close to the cliff before he jumped back. Maybe he's ready to think more seriously about his wife and what a treasure she is.
3. What happens when Pluto inherits Antonia's shares and becomes an owner of GI?
4. This has brought Adri closer to Eva. Will that continue?
5. With Toni gone, will Pluto assume that Rebecca can no longer blackmail him? Will he drop her like a hot tamale? And what form will her revenge take?
6. It sounds like Helena has resolved to not let Ed push her around anymore. Will her resolve stick? If so, how will Ed fight back?
7. Monday Santiago had his first conversation with Lucia. I'm sure more will follow. I hope so. Estoy harta de the Pati-Santi-Angela triangle.
Lastly, one funny observation from tonight's show (we could all use a laugh, huh?). In the hospital room, Pluto had the pillow ready, and he was on the verge of suffocating her. But tell me. How long does it take to pillow-suffocate someone with an oxygen tube in their nose?
1. Adriano proposed to the chippie. But also she offered him zero support at his lowest point. And a death makes you look at life more open-eyed. I predict his relationship with the chippie will change soon.
2. Fernando got darned close to the cliff before he jumped back. Maybe he's ready to think more seriously about his wife and what a treasure she is.
3. What happens when Pluto inherits Antonia's shares and becomes an owner of GI?
4. This has brought Adri closer to Eva. Will that continue?
5. With Toni gone, will Pluto assume that Rebecca can no longer blackmail him? Will he drop her like a hot tamale? And what form will her revenge take?
6. It sounds like Helena has resolved to not let Ed push her around anymore. Will her resolve stick? If so, how will Ed fight back?
7. Monday Santiago had his first conversation with Lucia. I'm sure more will follow. I hope so. Estoy harta de the Pati-Santi-Angela triangle.
Lastly, one funny observation from tonight's show (we could all use a laugh, huh?). In the hospital room, Pluto had the pillow ready, and he was on the verge of suffocating her. But tell me. How long does it take to pillow-suffocate someone with an oxygen tube in their nose?
I am so very shocked that Antonia actually DIED! I thought she might wake up from the coma and have amnesia, forgetting not only the Eva disclosure, but also the incredibly awful scene with her sick-o husband and the evil mistress Rebecca. Duly noted: Rebecca repeatedly encouraging Pluto to find a way to kill Antonia while she was lying on her death bed. And Pluto telling Rebecca he's not a murderer. Thank Heavens that before she keeled over, Antonia at least got a lot of great shots at both Pluto and Rebecca, slapping him before the part where she knee-d him. Telling them both they'd be ruined and on the streets with nothing. That was quite the scene!
I hope "Eva" can use Toni's keys to get in the house...and soon!
It looks like Eduardo is, no surprise, a wife abuser and his violence must have caused the loss of a child. I'm wondering if he would be still held liable for the crime so many years afterwards.
Also, I'm hoping that somehow, the "angel in Heaven" Antonia finds a way to intervene in the mess left on earth, including helping "Eva" prove her innocence...and haunting Pluto and Rebecca into madness, with complete and utter ruin.
I hope "Eva" can use Toni's keys to get in the house...and soon!
It looks like Eduardo is, no surprise, a wife abuser and his violence must have caused the loss of a child. I'm wondering if he would be still held liable for the crime so many years afterwards.
Also, I'm hoping that somehow, the "angel in Heaven" Antonia finds a way to intervene in the mess left on earth, including helping "Eva" prove her innocence...and haunting Pluto and Rebecca into madness, with complete and utter ruin.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 6:59:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 6:59:00 AM EDT
I am with Ithabill, feeling such regret that Antonia not only left this earth at such a young age, but left after experiencing cruel taunts and devastating disillusionments. And, as if what she heard at the house wasn't enough--elephant, whale, hippopatamus!-- they say people can hear even in a coma, so right up to the last moment, she had to listen to her husband's vile threats and desires for her death. I was surprised, shocked and yes, devastated myself after last night's show. In some ways it reminded me of that horrible recounting of Lety's quinceañera in La Fea Mas Bella. As I recall Julie said, at the time, "And I thought this was a comedy!" That's how I felt about this story last night.
I will say, Paula, that I too noted the oxygen tube and wondered how indeed Pluto would suffocate her given that! But other than that, this was a very very sad episode. And the hint of what happened to Helena's mother years ago, and her continued knuckling down to the man who abused her and killed their child....ugh. This is a very dark comedy indeed....depressingly so at this point.
I will say, Paula, that I too noted the oxygen tube and wondered how indeed Pluto would suffocate her given that! But other than that, this was a very very sad episode. And the hint of what happened to Helena's mother years ago, and her continued knuckling down to the man who abused her and killed their child....ugh. This is a very dark comedy indeed....depressingly so at this point.
"Adri tells Eva: "You were a big consolation to Toni, you were the friend she always wanted to have. And I want to thank your cousin Mimi for helping out too." Adri hints at a big decision to be announced shortly."
Does this mean that Adri is going to give Antonia shares in Grupo to Eva and Mimi instead of the Putz? Since we have at least 100 episodes to go this would sure keep the kettle boiling.
RP
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 8:46:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 8:46:00 AM EDT
I got to say before I even read the recap, I AM ANGRY! The writers did the same thing in Soy tu Duena! I'm still mad about that! Is this a new upcoming rule of telenovelas that writers wipe out a beloved character?! I am not feeling that's comedy.
As close as I can tell, Tuesday's 90-minute broadcast was 2-1/2 Mexican shows. Toni saw Juan in the hotel room, halfway into our Monday show, then the scene froze. I'm sure that was the end of Mexico #38. Then the second half hour on Monday was the beginning of Mexico #39, with Juan begging Toni to not reveal him.
So last night's show started with the second half of Mexico #39. I recall a freeze frame about 20 minutes into it, which would be the end of #39. I forget - maybe it was when Toni passed out.
Then we got two more full episodes:
#40, when she's in the hospital.
#41, her death and the aftermath.
As someone said, there were almost no commercials - two breaks in the entire 90 minute broadcast, I believe.
So last night's show started with the second half of Mexico #39. I recall a freeze frame about 20 minutes into it, which would be the end of #39. I forget - maybe it was when Toni passed out.
Then we got two more full episodes:
#40, when she's in the hospital.
#41, her death and the aftermath.
As someone said, there were almost no commercials - two breaks in the entire 90 minute broadcast, I believe.
I am so mad. Antonia could have awakened with amnesia. She could have lingered in that coma for months as the rest of the plot spun out. They didn't Have to kill her!!!!!
I hope that JC takes the keys as real sign from Antonia that she forgave him & that he wasn't the one responsible. When JC finally gets into the house I hope that he finds Antonia's shoes, purse & suitcase. That would prove that she HAD been in the house as opposed to Pluto's story. Maybe that would ease JC's guilt pangs.
Mimi was so sweet to Adri in the hospital. The contrast between her support & Paola's should resonate in Adri's head.
Güera
I hope that JC takes the keys as real sign from Antonia that she forgave him & that he wasn't the one responsible. When JC finally gets into the house I hope that he finds Antonia's shoes, purse & suitcase. That would prove that she HAD been in the house as opposed to Pluto's story. Maybe that would ease JC's guilt pangs.
Mimi was so sweet to Adri in the hospital. The contrast between her support & Paola's should resonate in Adri's head.
Güera
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 11:22:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 11:22:00 AM EDT
Paula - that's brilliant. I didn't even think of the oxygen tube in her nose.
So tonight's will be #42?
So I guess that Pluto burning the thesis worked out for him after all. Toni had been talking about going to the university to get another copy but I guess didn't get around to it. With her gone, I don't know how easy it will be for Eva or Helena to get one.
I didn't realize Eva already had a key to Pluto's house. That's encouraging.
Yes, Judy, Lety's quinceañera haunted me - although not as much as when an even younger Lety was being taunted by classmates on the playground. It's horrible to imagine someone dying with such pain still fresh.
RP, I think the "big announcement" Adriano referred to was his engagement to Paola. The woman who wanted to get it on with him even as his sister lay dying. I like your idea better, but I don't know if Adriano has any say in the distribution of Antonia's effects.
So tonight's will be #42?
So I guess that Pluto burning the thesis worked out for him after all. Toni had been talking about going to the university to get another copy but I guess didn't get around to it. With her gone, I don't know how easy it will be for Eva or Helena to get one.
I didn't realize Eva already had a key to Pluto's house. That's encouraging.
Yes, Judy, Lety's quinceañera haunted me - although not as much as when an even younger Lety was being taunted by classmates on the playground. It's horrible to imagine someone dying with such pain still fresh.
RP, I think the "big announcement" Adriano referred to was his engagement to Paola. The woman who wanted to get it on with him even as his sister lay dying. I like your idea better, but I don't know if Adriano has any say in the distribution of Antonia's effects.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:07:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:07:00 PM EDT
CHF's title, "Goodbye Antonia." It seems to remind me of something, but I just can't put my finger on it. A variation on the title of some artsy movie? A post-modernist play? A mid-20th Century novel? Anybody know?
Those bastards! And a whole bunch of other words from my Breaking Out of Beginner's Spanish book that I'm flinging at the writers.
I missed the first hour of this since I had to record the So You Think You Can Dance final, and now I'm glad I missed this. I hope they give her a chance to come back and haunt the hell out of Plutarco. Something good needs to happen soon or we're going to forget this is supposed to be funny.
Kelly
I missed the first hour of this since I had to record the So You Think You Can Dance final, and now I'm glad I missed this. I hope they give her a chance to come back and haunt the hell out of Plutarco. Something good needs to happen soon or we're going to forget this is supposed to be funny.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:27:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:27:00 PM EDT
Paula, maybe you are thinking of "My Antonia" the American classic novel by Willa Cather.
carolina
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Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:41:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:41:00 PM EDT
Julia,
There is no way Paola would marry Adri. She would have to give up her care free lifestyle and fun, fun, fun. And I not sure her father would approve of such a marriage. Does he even know about the affair?
RP
There is no way Paola would marry Adri. She would have to give up her care free lifestyle and fun, fun, fun. And I not sure her father would approve of such a marriage. Does he even know about the affair?
RP
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:51:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 12:51:00 PM EDT
I was crushed that Antonia died! I sure didn’t see that one coming.
I thought the writing last night was much better than we usually get in telenovelas – quite touching – and the acting wonderful, all of which made Toni’s death even harder.
I’m betting Mimi’s godson was in earlier shows but we didn’t get to see him because they’re cutting scenes. Paula H – thank you so much for figuring out which episodes we saw. If a usual hour has 15 minutes of commercials, that leaves 45 minutes of material, so even without commercial breaks only 2 episodes should fit into 1 ½ hours, not 2 ½. Why oh why are they cutting bits out if this is such a popular show in Mexico?
I’m mystified how Fernando landed such a wonderful wife, and now attracted a good-looking poolside babe. He’s such a dork.
I thought the writing last night was much better than we usually get in telenovelas – quite touching – and the acting wonderful, all of which made Toni’s death even harder.
I’m betting Mimi’s godson was in earlier shows but we didn’t get to see him because they’re cutting scenes. Paula H – thank you so much for figuring out which episodes we saw. If a usual hour has 15 minutes of commercials, that leaves 45 minutes of material, so even without commercial breaks only 2 episodes should fit into 1 ½ hours, not 2 ½. Why oh why are they cutting bits out if this is such a popular show in Mexico?
I’m mystified how Fernando landed such a wonderful wife, and now attracted a good-looking poolside babe. He’s such a dork.
NO her father doesn't know. But Adriano still thinks it's going to happen even though she's been a total jerk to him for the last couple of weeks.
He was talking about said he was going to make an announcement, and the next thing he did was propose to her.
Maggie, I'm with you in being mystified by Fernando's appeal. I saw him drooling all over that woman and said, "I don't think so."
He was talking about said he was going to make an announcement, and the next thing he did was propose to her.
Maggie, I'm with you in being mystified by Fernando's appeal. I saw him drooling all over that woman and said, "I don't think so."
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
I'm as shocked as eveyone about Antonia. I thought she'd have amnesia, then be an undercover ally to JC when her memory recovered. I was so looking forward to her turning the tables on Pluto. But the actress showed fine acting chops in some intense scenes.
I guess the story veered this way to trigger Adriano to marry Paolo. In a way, I do want him to marry her, to see just how miserable and pathetic he can be.
The only good aspect I could ever find in Bastardo Eduardo is at least he didn't physically abuse Sylvia or Helena. Now it seems he did strike Sylvia. If so, interesting that he never struck her again, or Helena would’ve surely remembered.
When Fernando's sorry drunk self was back home in bed beside Marcela, after kissing the skank in her hotel room, all I could think was ick, ick, ick. Even though he didn't do the deed, I hope the blue dresses tell Marcela all about him being in the skank’s room. Idiot.
I guess the story veered this way to trigger Adriano to marry Paolo. In a way, I do want him to marry her, to see just how miserable and pathetic he can be.
The only good aspect I could ever find in Bastardo Eduardo is at least he didn't physically abuse Sylvia or Helena. Now it seems he did strike Sylvia. If so, interesting that he never struck her again, or Helena would’ve surely remembered.
When Fernando's sorry drunk self was back home in bed beside Marcela, after kissing the skank in her hotel room, all I could think was ick, ick, ick. Even though he didn't do the deed, I hope the blue dresses tell Marcela all about him being in the skank’s room. Idiot.
Carolina - "My Antonia" - that's it! I was kinda' close when I said maybe it was a mid-20th Century novel.
Yes Julie, tonight's will be Mexico #42. The answer to life, the universe, and everything.
I agree about Fernando. What's up with young hot babes throwing themselves at dweeby middle-aged guys. I can understand Rebecca with Pluto, and the chippie with Adri. One is very rich and the other is a corporate VP with a big inheritence coming. But Fernando??? I thought TN's were designed to feed women's fantasies, not men's fantasies. Hey! Maybe they feed on women's fears, too - that around every corner lurks a quitamarido trying to steal her man.
Yes Julie, tonight's will be Mexico #42. The answer to life, the universe, and everything.
I agree about Fernando. What's up with young hot babes throwing themselves at dweeby middle-aged guys. I can understand Rebecca with Pluto, and the chippie with Adri. One is very rich and the other is a corporate VP with a big inheritence coming. But Fernando??? I thought TN's were designed to feed women's fantasies, not men's fantasies. Hey! Maybe they feed on women's fears, too - that around every corner lurks a quitamarido trying to steal her man.
Paula - With a husband like Fernando, I'd welcome a quitamarido. Reminds me of an old story about a musician who ran off with the bandleader's wife. The bandleader sent him a thank you note.
That reminds me of a favorite Sven & Ole joke. Please forgive the OT.
The doctor just told Ole that he has only a few weeks left to live. Ole turns to his wife, Lena.
Ole: Lena, promise me. Swear to me! That when I'm gone, you'll marry Sven Svenson.
Lena: SVEN SVENSON? You've hated him all your life!
Ole: Yep. I still do.
The doctor just told Ole that he has only a few weeks left to live. Ole turns to his wife, Lena.
Ole: Lena, promise me. Swear to me! That when I'm gone, you'll marry Sven Svenson.
Lena: SVEN SVENSON? You've hated him all your life!
Ole: Yep. I still do.
Niecie...do you really want the Blue Dresses to tell Marcela about Fernando's dalliance? It would break her heart. And to what end? She loves him, and he, in his egocentric macho way, loves her as well. They're a couple, with two children to raise (and one of them, the boy, seems to be in trouble) Why torment Marcela by telling her about his emotional affair, when they will both need all their wisdom and energy to sort out the problem their son is in.
JudyB - You're right. I'd hate for Marcela to get hurt, and the doofus really does love her. But Marcela is aware of their problems and trying to be patient with him to work through them. While Fernando has his head in the sand and acts like an a$$. Something needs to trigger Fernando to reflect and changes his ways.
OT: Don't forget Bette Midler and Danny DiVito in "Ruthless People".
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Permalink posted by : Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 3:55:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 at 3:55:00 PM EDT
OH NO!!!
So, I'm watching this show, but I'm still a few weeks behind so I'm not commenting much. Saw this headline at the top of the page, though, and couldn't help reading the recap ahead of time...so SAD!!! I was hoping that all the ladies would end up ousting the piggish men and taking over the company, and that Antonia would be at the helm, empowered and everything. Sigh.
Thanks to all for your recaps and comments. They are very helpful. Maybe one of these days I will catch up and heap praise upon you all in realtime.
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So, I'm watching this show, but I'm still a few weeks behind so I'm not commenting much. Saw this headline at the top of the page, though, and couldn't help reading the recap ahead of time...so SAD!!! I was hoping that all the ladies would end up ousting the piggish men and taking over the company, and that Antonia would be at the helm, empowered and everything. Sigh.
Thanks to all for your recaps and comments. They are very helpful. Maybe one of these days I will catch up and heap praise upon you all in realtime.
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