Saturday, October 20, 2012
Amor Bravío #48 (Uni 43) Fri 10/19/12 There’s More Competition for Camila’s Marriage Bed and Multiple Milliones de Dolares: Could Cam Have A New Secret Admirer?
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I thought it was funny how everyone was all up in Camila's romantic life biz, while the poor woman was unconscious. The news of her having a lover spread like wildfire. Technically, she and D'Andres haven't crossed that line yet, but it looks like after Tuesday, we can officially call D'Andres Camila's lovah.
Cindy
Thanks for the great recap.
What's so interesting is that Mariano and Pablo are more like each other than Iago is like either of them. Makes me wonder whether Iago is the son of Caetano while Mariano and Pablo are the sons of Daniel.
Don Daniel was probably very attractive when young and was certainly charming. This should come as no big surprise.
In the part where you said Rafa plans to move in with Vivi, you said "He’s developed a lot of affection for her and once Cam’s better he plans on explaining his motives for his decision". What decision is he referring to?
Also, I forgot whether or not D'Andres thinks that Cami is his cousin?
So we have 2 secret relatives alerts:
Dan/Ximena (same birthmark) and Camila/Pablo (same rare blood type).
If either Mariano or Pablo are Don Daniel's sons, their lives are in danger from the Komodo Gang, so it might be a good thing for Rocio and Nana to keep their mouths shut about her past involvement with Don Daniel.
However, Mariano will be questioning his mother's objections to Camila because they are not reasonable.
For the moment it is just as well that Mariano and Rafael are suspected by Hissadora and El Diablo of being Camila's lover. Daniel/Andres is relatively safe from them because he's on the ranch. The big however, though, is Leoncerdo. If he is trying to run Daniel/Andres off the property he might be the one to find out.
Looks like Pablo is Camila’s cousin! Don Daniel must have been quite the player in his day. And yet, he never gave poor Gussy the time of day. She is going to be really pissed once she eventually finds out that Rocio was also his lover. Once Camila learns the truth she will want to share the ranch with Pablo, or maybe even give him the whole thing if he’s Don Daniel’s son.
The other set up was Vivi putting that bug in Gussy’s ear about a will for Camila. I wonder that if by starting the process of writing a real will for Camila, Lic. Becerra will find out about the false will that Isa had drawn up.
Two corrections—1) Amanda was the one who left Dion, not the other way around. Once she learned he was a swindler, she took her baby and ran. Which means, if Dion finds her, he is not only going to be worried she can blow his cover, but he’s also going to be really ticked off that she left him and took his child from him. 2) Don Daniel was never divorced. He was a widower. I think Cayetano said that back in the day Rocio was so enthused about Don Daniel that she even wished he had a daughter to marry their son (Mariano) off to. Well, he doesn’t have a daughter, but he does have a niece.
I hope that Augustina talks to Becerra about that will. He will get very suspicious and do something fast. It is also overdue for him to know that Andres is Daniel.
Who also seems to have the same blood type as Camila.
Your customarily witty and comprehensive recap was a great first-thing-in-the-morning read. Thank you. I especially liked the way you captured the interaction between Alonso and XI (his true wife!) I love your many names for Alonso, particularly El Gettin’-Lucky-Lately de Lonnie.
I have a question that you and Vivi (in her addendum) may have addressed already. I'm just not sure. I got Rocio's statement to Nana that she tried to keep her children away from Don Daniel, the event brought them together, etc. There was something more about a pariente . . . "se habla casado." Was she referring to Camila?
Just flew by too fast and even repeating it with the CC, it eluded me.
This is the first novela I've watched from this writing team (except Bajo La Misma Piel years ago). I am loving the density of the interaction and plot, but you can't miss a beat!
I didn't watch CME because it felt like a betrayal of my memory of La Mentira, a virtual cult hit a few years back. I gather from the commentary here that it was pretty special. I am going to go back and look at the Caray,Caray comments on it.
Now, we know this distancing of the families came some time later in the relationship of the two families, because Cayetano mentioned how chummy they used to be. I'm guessing Rocio caused this distancing sometime after Mariano was born, beut before Pablo was born.
I'm not sure how Becerra could know about another will drawn up in Camilla's name by a different Lic. It's not like wills are registered. What has Isa done with the will she has? And if Cam were to die, was Isa's plan to just present it to everyone? Or maybe hid it in her office so that it would get found? Or give it to Alonso?
My head is spinning from all the secret kinfolks: Camila and Pablo with the same blood type, D'Andres and Ximeana with identical birthmarks, and Dionisio and Natalia father and daughter. Agree Dionisio could probably care less about the daughter he never knew. My guess is he'll just try to use her for his $plans if/when he finds out.
Foxy - I think Rafa is referring to his decision to move in with Vivi. My guess is he still feels he has a shot at Camila so he wants to make sure she knows he's living with Vivi for strictly protection purposes.
Loved when Dionisio grumbled, "Maldita Isadora!" Got a feeling he's going to have a lot of opportunity to curse his partner in crime. Hisssadora is trusting no man and will always come up with her own plan.
I do remember the reason Amanda left Dio was after seeing all the passports and different names she checked to see if Hector Gutierrez was his real name and found it was not. She said this meant her marriage was a farce and did not exist tho' they had registered Nat legally with the name Gutierrez. So no divorce was necessary I'm guessing. Her marriage as such doesn't exist in Mexican law.
UA, did I misinterpret your 08:59 comment or did you say that D'Andres had the same type blood as Camila??
Thanks Niecie for answering my question about Rafa's decision. I didn't think about that since at Camila has made it clear to him that she sees him only a friend. Besides, it seems that if the situation needs explaining, it should be between the 2 best friends, Vivi and Camila.
About the Will, even if the fake goes unnoticed, the valid Will would be the one with the latest date. Oh, and that's brings up another point that still needs to be solved; what on earth is Isa holding over that lawyers head that she could manipulate him into making up that phony Will??
The crooked lawyer had illegally registered Alonssso as Hissadora's son back in the day and I suspect there is more shenanigans beyond that. He may or may not know the identity of Alonssso's birth mother, but it's also likely that he committed other fraud in Hissadora's name in the more recent past.
Regarding El Diablo, we could also be in for him approaching the altar with Augustina (whom he actually despises), Padre Anselmo asking "If there be anyone present..." and Amanda speaking up. No, scratch that; the problem with that would be that it would derail him too quickly.
Though I had thought Rocio was opposed to Mariano's interest in Camila simply because she would be a divorcee, I now see that there's much more to it than that, though I'm still confused. It now seems likely that Pablo is Don Daniel's son, but Pablo is much younger than Mariano, and it's Mariano that Rocio wants to prevent from having a relationship with Camila. So is Mariano also Don D's son? Somehow, it seems unlikely that a relationship between Rocio and Don D would have gone on for so many years (esp. since she seems to me to be a bigotted snob, not the sort of person Don D would love).
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to suspend my disbelief, at least for a while, with a little help from my trusty beanie.
The avances seem to indicate that D'andres and Camila are going to, um, progress big time with their relationship. That makes me very nervous, since they're likely to be discovered, either by Tio the Turd or by Alonso and/or Ximena. And as Hissadora pointed out, Camila's having a lover will make things easier for the Evil Ones (well, Evil Threes)...for example, it could screw up, so to speak, her attempt to divorce Alonso.
Well, the one good thing about TNs is that all our worry ultimatetly doesn't matter, unlike in Real Life.
Dan & Rafa showed up at the hospital to donate blood & the doctor and/or Augustina told them Pablo was a match for Camila and the transfusion took well.
Dan & Rafa went off to donate blood anyway, but we the audience were never told what Dan's (or Rafa's) blood type was.
Dan could be a universal blood type like O. What we know for sure is Pablo & Camila have the same uncommon blood type (that Mariano & Yago don't have).
And about the blood thing...the doctor said in front of Gussie and the others that Camila had used up a lot of blood during the operation and now it needed to be replaced. Mariano immediately offered himself and Pablo did, too and I forgot who it was said that everybody at La Malquerida would donate as well. This blood most likely would go into the hospital's blood bank. I think that because Pablo's blood matched exactly, they gave it to Camila right away.
About what Dan said at the very end about the flower, Gato Viejo's CC's also ran out. Without double checking, I'm positive Jardinera got it right.
Gussie didn't think Camila had a will. The lightbulbs go on in both of them, I guess, realizing that Alonso would have inherited everything if Camila didn't leave a will. I think Gussie is going to fix that before long. So, yes, Becerra will do the legitimate will and will have a later date on it.
Issy's version of the will is worthless now because Cami didn't die and Dio has threatened her, should anything happen to Camila. Issy's going to have to think up another scheme to end up with the whole ball of wax. I don't think she even wants to share with Sonny-Boy.
I'm sure he knows that his daughter's name is Natalia--she looked to be about 3-4 mos. old in the flashback Amanda had. At some point he will make the connection, if he learns her last name. So far he probably hasn't heard it mentioned. That's what Amanda is so scared about and wants Nat away from him and the ranch.
What do we do in the States about serial bigamists. Who is the legitimate wife, the first one? We don't know if this was Dio's first marriage or not, regardless of what name he used. If Natalia is 20ish, Amanda is 40ish, where should we put Dio, 50ish? So, he could have been married to others before Amanda. Ay de mi, why do the writers make it so complicated for us....
He says he needs a hacker; he says it in English, even pronouncing the "h."
Earlier when he tells Andres to find out Camila's and Rafael's email adds, he says that he needs to "hackear" (again pronouncing the h)their accounts, a Spanglish neologism I'd never come across before. I checked the dictionary and both words are given in the English to Spanish side, as well as a hispanicized alternative spelling for the latter: "jacuear." None of these are in the Spanish to English side, though, which might mean that they haven't been approved by the Royal Academy of the Spanish Language:)
Karamy
Daniel and Camila have to be very careful from this point on. However, Alonssso doesn't have to benefit from a divorce over this because she can annul the marriage first. If I were writing this I'd have her say, "Listen, pendejo, if you even try that I will reveal in court why our marriage was never consummated. If you don't want that all over town you'll withdraw your petition."
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Anita: Thank you also for the info and translations. BTW, if you could give me a link to Gato Viejo's AB "daily guia updates" since I've lost track of him and don't have an e-mail for him, I would be totally grateful, amiga!!
Thought it was cute when you said it annoys the French. I think the Royal Spanish Academy also gets annoyed, but not the extent the French do, with England right next door and the chunnel open to all those English invaders, they are much more vulnerable.
Is Spain vulnerable to German? When I was there umpteen million years ago, German tourists had invaded the country and the Spaniards didn't like them (of course) and us blonde haired Americans were often confused with Germans, until they realized how nice we were!
I didn't catch Camila's blood type but I think they said it was negative, which (thanks Wikipedia) is much less common that positive types. Still not so rare to assume a family connection though. Except on a telenovela, of course, but it's still no matching birthmark.
Kelly
O+: 68%
O-: 1%
A+: 22%
A-: .4%
B+: 7%
B-: .1%
AB+: 1%
AB-: .05%
In the U.S., here's the breakdown:
O+: 37%
O-: 7%
A+: 36%
A-: 6%
B+: 8.5%
B-: 1.5%
AB+: 3.4%
AB-: .6%
The paternity issue w/Mariano and Pablo is very confusing. Is Rocio playing keep away b/c Pablo (based on his similar blood type of Cam) is the son of Don Daniel? And if so, why is she trying to control Mariano?
But it still doesn't help with all the Who's Your Daddy questions.
Kelly
...suppose Rocio thinks Mariano could be Don Daniel's son (b/c maybe they had a years long affair). Then of course she would want Mariano away from Camila...they would be first cousins. But social hypocrites like Rocio would never want to admit the truth, so they pretend it's class differences or find other reasons to dislike their son's intended instead of telling the truth.
Regarding Amanda and money, I think I heard Amanda say she inherited her parents' house and turned it into the hostal. If Amanda's parents' house was big enough to turn into a hostal, Amanda's family must have had some money...maybe they were just solidly middle class and not rich but they definitely weren't on Piedad & Leoncio's level either.
And her sons, who would never trust her again.
The new TN they've been adveetising looks interesting.
No new ep until Tuesday?!
Nanette
Maybe Mariano and Cam aren't related but Pablo might, so, Rocio knows that the further away form Cam the less likely the truth to come out which will in turn hurt many, but most importantly, she wouldn't want anyone know about her rePUTAcion.
Now let's look at the bright side: at least the hospital received many blood donations and they were from the good guys only (I believe) good thing.
At the funeral of Camila's first fiance, Ximeana said something we didn't hear to his parents and his mother promptly went over to Camila and accused her of killing her son, also demanding to know why the hell she was there. Camila was in a wheelchair and a neck brace and had a face full of bruises. She cried even harder. After the funeral Augustina let Ximeana have it and the little bitch made no apology for her actions.
This is a pattern of behavior for her because Camila didn't miss her during the following three years when they didn't see each other at all and Ximeana barely kept in touch with Augustina.
She is unlikely to do the actual fatal deed, but possibly would be an accomplice before or after the fact.
Guy I would watch at any age--just wish he'd do something with his hands besides clasping them infront of him when he's standing around and do more DANCING.
Sergio Reynoso--it's too soon to have to watch him again.
Ditto for Aaron--he's wearing glasses, does that make him a good guy? At least he's baring his chest--which we didn't get to see much of in El Tal.
Dunno about watching. Fernando/Guy; Guy/Fernando; Fernando/Guy. I may have to toss a coin. Fernando-Mejia? Guy-Venevision? Maybe I won't watch either of them.
BTW, Flaco--I loved your use of rePUTAcion.
Besides, I think we can close the chapter on anyone trying to kill Camila. With Dio quashing Hissy's plan and he and D'Andres being more vigilant and the will thing getting resolved, they'll have to hatch another plan to rob "Daniel" of the Malquerida.
Dio is going to work on Gussie, poor thing, although I don't know how that will accomplish anything. Cami has already stood up to her mother and rejected Dio as administrator.
And Ximena would let Camila die just for something to do. Things would have to change a lot for her to look capable of redemption.
Kelly
Honestly, I was already there for Guy and the cheesecake (Lorena Rojas, Frances Ondiviela, Lupita friggin' Jones, and Itahisa Machado herself), but the additions of Terminator Reynoso and Aaron Diaz looking for all the world like a porn star playing a geek just ramp up the potential for comedy gold...I don't think it can match El Tal, but hey...
Not sure if it happened in this ep or the previous one but there's a new character. He's the guy Dionisio was ordering to investigate Mariano, and he imperatively told him he want to know EVERYTHING!.
Well we may just find out if Cam is related to him.
Ximeana’s impish grin does a speedy 180.
Lonso tells him to fageddabowdit since D’Andres is a double-agent and really works for Dionisio
El Gettin’-Lucky-Lately de Lonnie
I think these characters just lend themselves to some of the best humor and wittiness!
I will be on the road w/o access for a couple of weeks and of course can read the summaries but.......hate to miss visuals. Thanks.
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