Caray, Caray!

What A CREEPY FREAKY Episode?!?!?
Full of Twists. & Turns at every moment!
I couldn't imagine I my WILDEST DREAMS how soe one coul be as VEIL & VILE o an innnocent Bebe!

Rosalena gave away Luciana as an infant ~ BUT to put n innocent baby in he Garbage is the Lowest of lALL LOWS!!

Gala & Rosalena together are PURE UNADULTERATED E-V-IL!!!!!!!

& can I just kick Estelita for her all time STUPIDITY.
I have never in my days seen someone as Slow & Bckward thinking as her.....
I Knew It, I FELT IT~ I JUST SOMEHOW KNEW ESTELITA WAS of no use AT ALLLL!! & Shoulld have never been left with Luci or Bebe!!!!

Breath in ~ Out.... YES it is Only a TN!!!
 

What A CREEPY FREAKY Episode?!?!?
Full of Twists. & Turns at every moment!
I couldn't imagine In my WILDEST DREAMS how some one could be as EVIL & VILE to an innnocent Bebe!

Rosalena gave away Luciana as an infant ~ BUT to put an innocent baby in he Garbage is the Lowest of ALL LOWS!!

Gala & Rosalena together are PURE UNADULTERATED E-V-I-L!!!!!

& can I just kick Estelita for her all time STUPIDITY.
I have never in my days seen someone as Slow & Bckward thinking as her.....
I Knew It, I FELT IT~ I JUST SOMEHOW KNEW ESTELITA WAS of no use AT ALLLL!! & Shoulld have never been left with Luci or Bebe!!!! This Woman is a Danger to her self!

Breath in ~ Out.... YES it is Only a TN!!!
 

In Luci's defense, I think her blood pressure was wacky, and she was definitely sweaty and shaky as she was making the decision to leave the hospital. In other words, she was delirious/not in her right mind.

More tomorrow...

Great recap Marta. There wasn't really anything you could snark about with such a horrfic set of events.
 

Marta, what a funny recap, cheered me up after seeing that awful episode. Loved your better choices that Luci could have done.
Am I the only person puzzled at the viability of Rosa and Gala's plot? Did they really want this cleaning lady to tell Carmela that the woman she saw looking at Luci's baby offered money to steel Luci's baby? I can't believe that was part of the plot. I mean, Carmela is not in on it and can identify Gala. And, how could they be sure that Luci would stumble outside with the baby and fall down right by the street so they could grap the baby? Beanies anyone?

They took Luci to a different hospital which the EMT's said was more ready.
 

I want them DEAD! Nothing else will satisfy me. Gala and Rosa made a mistake and that cleaning woman better watch or back or she is not long for this world. Actually if any of the Barrio gang or the TL's minus the witch get their hands on her she is a goner.

We have two witnesses, the one who took the money and the idiot nurse who let Gala hold the baby. The 3B's think they have it all covered with Julie saying she was home with sick Gala all day but sooner or later the truth will come out.

I'll give Luci a pass for being completely stupid because she is a bit out of it. She had enough brains not to let the cleaning woman touch her but why for God's sake go out in the rain. Naturally that fool Estelita was on guard duty.

Monday should be an all out freak out with nobody knowing anything. Now let's see if the Linares/TL's use their brains and money to get pictures out and try and find both Luci and little Roddy.

For what it is worth the baby in the prior version also was lost but the Luci character was responsible and the baby was several months old. They have made the Rosa and Gala characters much worse in this version.
 

Marta, thank you for recapping this every disturbing episode.

Well, the Killer B's have secured their reservations in HELL. They can go right away, no waiting.

Estelita is totally worthless. I hope she suffers for her stupidity. We know she is from HetHet but this is beyond belief.

How long will take the TLs to figure out that RE is involved?

I hope that the bebe doesn't have to wait 18 years to reunited with Luci.

I know, deep breathing, it is just fiction.

Rosemary Primera

 

Estelita is from DF, not Het Het. To be fair, it did seem a legit reason to leave the room. But when she saw it would take so long, she should have gone back.
 

SuperMarta thank you so much for taking this for the team. Oh, what a horrid epi and I don't know if I could have made it a little funny either, with all this sturm und drang. So heartless are those three Killer Bees, to leave bebe Roddy in a trash can. I hope the worst things in the world happen to them here on earth and they can all three go straight to Hades, like Judy said, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collet $200. So now a drunk has poor little Roddy. I hope he at least will be safe. I hate th at they did this on a Friday night.

Aldo and Vicky now that was a surprise, I really thought ole Aldo would use that money for his own personal gain, but he actually wanted to give Vicky money for a salon for her. Interesting. Could it be our Aldo is in luuurrrvvve?

Back to Luci, I really think her medical condition was in play here. The poor thing had high blood pressure, low blood pressure, needed glucose, on top of that they probably gave her a bunch of pain medication and so I think she was in Mama Bear mode and not thinking clearly. She just wanted to protect the bebe, tout de suite, and didn't think long term. She wanted to protect her bebe at all costs.

I just knew it would be Gagme that would handle this, but not Rosa la loca at all. I'm surprised she called an ambulance for Luci too, but Marta you are right, her aim has always been to make Luci suffer. That SE, I thought at first was going to help Luci, but I should have known, anything for money. I hope she goes to Hades too.

Rod and Claudio shared a look there at the end, almost as if they have an inkling of what and who is responsible. We will have to wait and see I guess.
 

Oh, and Marta I loved your alternative list of what Luci could have done to avoid this whole mess.
 

Martaivett--Why did the first part have to be so happy and the last part so absolutely tragic. Your list was excellent and the only thing that relieved the tension.

Question: WHY didn't nurse Carmela use the phone next to Luci's bed and CALL SECURITY, damnabbit.

AMOR, I'm with you, RE & Gala are the vilest of the vile. They deserve no mercy when when it's time for punishments to be meted out. If RE wants Luci to suffer rather than die--then she needs to suffer, too, worse (but not for Pato to die).

Gala can die for all I care. She should be gagged and hog-tied and dumped on a trash heap out in a cold rain at night. If she lives, then repeat until dead. Baby Gala will be raised by either Rodrigo and Luci or Pato and Luci. Eventually, we all know, Baby Roddy will show up. This tn can't end any other way. We just have to wait it out. Get your winter beanies out--we're going to go through some rough weather.
Anita
 

First thing Max, CL and Rod should do is SUE the hospital. There, rant over for the night.
 

I agree that Rod, Claudio and/or Pato need to take matters in their own hands with pictures on hand of RE and Gala who are definitely in the top of the suspect list...

Now I am CERTAIL that the gold necklace Pato gave little Rod will play a HUGE part in him being found. I hope in days or months, please dont make it years!!

For RE, she should lose all contact with her children AND go totally nuts for a long long time locked in a nut house... (then again she would not realize why she is there or how long... hmmm, gotta come up with something better)

For Julie and Gala... Julie definitely needs to be hurt physically, be crippled, burned down on her face, lose her hair with cancer, something that will give her a long agony since she puts so much weight on her physical appearance and attractiveness to potential rich guys whose pockets she can suck out dry.
Gala... well, she is so obsessed with Rodrigo and keeping him away from Luci, that she needs to be somehow prevented from living the high life AND staying away from Rod...
Her little girl DEFINITELY needs to be raised by either Rod/Luci or Pato/Luci.
And I want Claudio to be alive in the end... he deserves to see his daughter happy... FINALLY and for good.

btw, they are already announcing ULTIMAS SEMANAS.

 

sorry meant CERTAIN, not CERTAIL.
 

RE cannot in her right mind keep claiming that all she did was for her children's sake... She KNOWS that making Luci's baby dissappear will make Rod even more miserable than he is already, regardless of whether they ever realize it was HER behind the baby dissappearance, even if she does accomplish making Luci miserable.
Pato won't be buying flowers for RE anytime soon either ... she should know she and Gala would be top on his list of suspects, even if it is hard for him to conceive his mother could be evil, it is easier for him to think she is just 'sick', and have pity on her.

So RE is doing all this because:
1. she still has that grudge on Aurora, and on Claudio and Luci by association.
2. She knows she is more associated with the Devil than with God no matter what claims she makes.
3. She does not want Rod to really marry anyone that will take the control over him away from her. She knows she could manage Gala, Gala will whine and rant but RE knows she can control Gala. And she does not really want her children to break away from her.


 

Notice i left 'sick' or 'crazy' out of the list. I have 15 credits in psychology and i still have not seen anything that leads me to believe she is really 'out of her mind' when she makes these decisions/actions. It is still cool calculated cruelty and evilness for me.
 

The evilness that it takes to abandon a newborn baby on a pile of garbage, on a cold stormy night, is just unfathomable. Rosa and Gala deserve the worst punishment when this wraps up.

Yes, I saw the "final weeks" notice too. So as torturous as these next 30 or so episodes may be, it is coming to an end soon.

I thought it was interesting that it was Pato, not Rod, who could feel there was something wrong with Luci. It's like they had a psychic connection the way he heard her silent plea for help. Then he started getting feverish and weak like she did. I'm more convinced that they are twin souls (just not in the romantic sense).
 

Arrrrgggghhh...at least you lightened the atmosphere somewhat by providing an alternate list of better choices, some of them pretty funny. But you're right SUPERMARTA, there's no way to write a snarky recap over a senseless, tragic, downright evil episode like this one. Stealing the baby of a loving mother and throwing it in the trash on a cold rainy night...it boggles the mind. And yet there is wretched evil going on towards children all the time. That poor little lass in Colorado comes to mind. So sad what happens in this fallen world.

I don't want Gala to die. I want her to suffer physical and emotional torment for the rest of her life. Ditto for Roselena. Not sure what I want for Julie. Jail would be tough enough for her.

Now the question is...we've seen some pretty horrible characters redeemed in these novelas. Do you think any of these three could be redeemed? Could Julie possibly be persuaded to rat out the other two? Nah...guess not. Don't know if I can stand to watch this torment, other than on the night I recap. SO HORRIBLE!
 

Vivi, very good point about it being Pato and Luci who have a psychic/spiritual connection, and not Rod and Luci... yes, the are twin souls who seem to know each other as if they were themselves and even feel what the other feels.
 

Marta, your are braver than I my friend. My thanks for watching this whole abhorrent plot play out and put this great recap togther. I admit, couldn't do it all. Had to keep switching off I couldn't take it. I had to join Judy at the Wusses table with a good stiff drink last night.
Leaving that baby...when I had an inkling that was happening, I almost started shaking I was so angry and just turned it off. Got on Hulu this morning and caught the end only.
I too have to keep telling myself this is a show, this is a show. I think we are all in agreement that whatever happens to GT and RE won't be bad enough. Mess with adults, bad enough, mess with children, you deserve the worst fate possible. RE calling an ambulance for Luce...no pass. Big whoop, you still deserve the worst.

I think the delusional place that RE has gone to at this time is in full force since she does not realize that she has to be suspect No. 1. But then the nurse will also be able to describe GT. These two aren't the brightest tacks in the world because they sure let a lot of clues point to them. Good.

Thanks the heavens for Pato and his gift because that I'm sure will be the recovery ID. What I find immensely fascinating is Pato is the one who is so tuned into Luce and the baby that he hears the cries and feels her pain. You would think that would have come from Rod. Interesting....


 

I watched when I got home from the opera last night and I am still astonished. There are more anvils in here than in Il Trovatore.

Marta, you are right. Roselena is not legally insane; she knows that what she and her cohorts have just done is a crime. She is, however, delusional and mentally ill. She is also cruel beyond belief. She desperately wants to control her entire family and it is supremely ironic that the one she has the least control over is Patricio, the most vulnerable of her children.

I wonder if she will torture Padre Honesto with this "confession."

JudyB, Julie is not a candidate for redemption in my playbook. She is not like Vanessa of LQNPA who at least loved her parents. Julie loves only dinero and Gala was conceived under the same circumstances as her own baby was now. Julie might rat her out in order to save her own skin, but no way should she be allowed to escape Karmageddon.

Rod and Claudio will drop everything to find Luci and little Roddy. I think Max will help them. That may be the beginning of redemption for him because no matter what he's done it's not on the same level as his crazy wife.
 

Martaivette, great job in recapping this episode. I just love your comment and agree with your analysis.

I started to watch this novela since three weeks when my computer crash. Now that my computer is fixed I am curious to what and who is what and other which side - good or bad.

I totally agree with you guys that I think Rosalena and Gala are totally evil. I especially dislike Rosalena who tries to convince people that is trying to asked for forgiveness.

Maraivett, I was thinking of the same thing when Luciana is walking in the rain. I just thought is she crazy for being out there in that condition. There were many options than the course she choose.

I hope Rosalena and Gala suffer for what they did to Luciana and the baby. I hope the baby is safe and will be alright.

I wonder how Luciana is going be - critical condition or worst? How long will it take to find the baby? What is the name of the baby?
 

Gala, Roselena - Dead to me.
I couldn't even watch the whole episode because of their evil. I don't like "stolen baby" plots. Luciana was definitely under the weather and not thinking clearly due to her blood pressure and her recently giving birth. It doesn't help that she is surrounded by simple thinking people who can't fathom Rod's mom and Gala's evilness.
I found this episode very frustrating and sad.

SFChicaBonita
 

Of course Luci was in a medical delirium caused by fear, remember how the doctor emphasized NO EXCITEMENT for 24 hours? He was putting a hugh anvil up.

In the real medical world we don't leave this to chance, she would have been better controlled with medication. But in TN world anything can happen. What I want to know-HOW DID ROSA AND GALA KNOW THAT SHE WOULD GO OUTSIDE WITH THE BABY. Pretty flimsy plot planning by the writers. It is asking a lot of us to believe. Tells me they think their audience has a pretty low IQ.

SFChicaBonita-SF as in SFV?
 

Redemption-I think Rosa will have redemption with consequences, and the reason is she is Rod and Pato's mother. But she will pay a heavy price. I am only guessing here-she certainly doesn't deserve it, but TN writers do occasionally give someone a pass on mental illness. I would have her end up in Prison for life; but that's just me. No redemption for Julie or Gala.
 

Emarie- I guess Rosa knows Luci well enough to figure she would try to flee and go home (well, at least the vecinidad which is close) with the baby. But they made a LOT of assumptions. Perhaps they were just counting on her to leave. Had she jumped in a cab right outside of the clinic, they might have followed the cab to wherever she went. Had she hidden in the hospital somewhere, then the cleaning leady would have likely followed her and told them where she is.

Whatever. The writers needed to get us to the point where the baby was taken, so that history could be repeated. I hope it's not another 19 years before Luci finds her child like with poor CL!
 

Most of the child/infant abductions I have seen in TNs are very short. Let's hope that's the case.
 

It better not be 19 years! If it is, I would have to bail on the show. I'm having a really hard time with it as it is. DAISYNJAY...glad there's someone with me at the card carrying Wuss table...and with a stiff drink too! Make mine a double.
 

Estelita and Mati are the dumbest of siblings ever. Thank god we haven't been subjected to their parents. Sorry, no redemption for Max please. Thing handcuffs.
 

Rosa's confession to Padre should be interesting. Like 'the devil made me do it!' No absolution Rosalena; get thee to a nuthouse.
 

Ay,Ay Ay, My body was shaking and hot all over, I bet my bp was high up there, watching this horrible episode. Thanks Marta for your wise recap. Months ago, I too thought that RE was not crazy but just thoroughly evil. This is her worst though,to kill her own flesh and blood, her grandson from Rod. And the other evil monsters, I have nothing but disgust for these horrid creatures.I could understand Luci when she was not thinking straight, I had experienced fainting before and this is how confused you are and nothing around you make sense at all and notice that she was just walking with no sense of directions at all.Now about the nurse. Twice she said she's going to administration to inform them of this emergency but neither she, the admin nor the security arrived and even worst, they got lost in the chaos of the story. What happened? I watched this twice and there it was no attention brought up. Grrr.
 

They knew Luci would go outside because the SE was guiding her. Remember how the she hung back until the SE distracted the guard.

The 3B's are stupid if they think they are going to get away with this one.There are two witnesses and at home Pato, Jana and Max are all aware that it is highly unusual for Rosa to be out at night, without the chauffeur and in a storm. Red flags there.

Rod and Claudio are immediately suspicious. Once someone describes the mystery woman who paid the bribe as blonde and distinguida they will jump to Rosa unless they mention that the woman was pregnant thus throwing Gala into the mix. Both of them will deny it till the death backed up by Julie of course. Claudio was willing to forego sending Rosa to prison for what she did in the past because Luci asked him to. I can not see him repeating that mistake in this case.

Max is all about family in a much healthier way than Rosa. He was shocked by what she did to Luci and he does tend to give her a pass with her obsessions. However I can't believe that will continue once he realizes she has thrown away his own flesh and blood. He was beaming every time he saw pictures of the baby and he commented on his good looks and said with TL/Linares blood he was also going to be smart. I simply can't believe he will let her get away with this when the truth eventually comes out. Some things are beyond forgiveness and this is. Manicomio? Prison? Divorce and disgrace. It has to be one of them.

How long before we find out the truth? Not 19 years as Rosa would hope. We aren't going to have a 40 year old bride with her tall strapping teenage son walking her down the aisle and Claudio likely gone. Luci and Rod have to have many years and that heap of children they talked about. But i'm will to bet it will be several years because we still have slightly over 30 episodes to go and we all want to see enough time lapse that Pato will be up and about and Jana and lor more grown uo and together. Hate it hate it hate but that is Telenovelaland for you.

I too was struck by the Pato unease along with Paz. He is emotioanlly connected to Luci and he alone among everyone has held the baby. Rod doesn't have the emtional spirit connection to Luci becuase i think it is blocked by his guilt about how he treated her. Plus which he is still in somany ways a selfish dumbass.

There will be no Refugio on Tuesday due to futbal and the debate. Rats!
 

Sorry SuperMarta you got such an evil episode to recap. You did a great job though---your 11 points were very good but I will have to say that when panic sets in, people don't always make good decisions. So was the case this time.
If I have high blood pressure, it must have gone past the moon last night. You guys either understand Spanish or understand some Spanish. It was twice as bad for me not understanding anything, just seeing an hour of evil and having to wait for the recap the next day---breathe deep it's a TN---breathe deep it's a TN

The janitor is going down as an accomplice. [Sorry, I'm not politically correct. Nothing wrong with being a janitor but a janitor is NOT an engineer in any way, shape or form.]

Anita---I second your punishment for Gala. Hog tie her and throw her in the trash on a cold rainy night--repeat if necessary.

Too bad we have to wait through the weekend but I'm pretty sure that little Rodrigo will come out ok. Remember, he has the Virgen of Guadalupe to protect him.

One last thing---Yes, I think that Max will help Claudio and Rodrigo big time in this matter. He's bad in some ways but not in this case. I think that he will be on the right side this time--that's my guess anyway.
the gringo
 

I think the writers are evil. They do a much better job of plot and character development with the three witches than they do for the rest of the cast (with of course the exception of Pato). The rest seem to suffer from over optimism, pessimism (PAZ), or just out right stupidity. Luciana must have inherited the tendency for 'panic attacks' from PAZ. (I know of cases where it runs in families). Luciana does not win the prize for making a common sense decision about protecting her baby. running out in the street WITH THE BABY after a C section. It was quite mad.
 

Luciana could not have inherited the panic attacks from PAZ since she was not her mother. But it could well be learned behavior: Luci lived with the anxiety-ridden PAZ since she was born. The both need meds.
 

I have to remind myself this is pretend. But I will say that if Gala doesn't die leaving her baby to be raised by Rod and Luci I will swear off TNs forever and ever!!

Thanks, Marta.
 

Luci would have been exposed to Paz and her panic behavior her whole life but up to this point she usually kept a cool head even back in the beginning when she had to help deliver that baby. At this cpoint she was dealing with her blood pressure problems, had just had a baby, was probably on some kind of meds. Suddenly there is all this hysteria about a woman wanting to take the baby which threw her protective instincts into over drive especailly since she alwys had the fear that Rosa would do something. Add to that the janitor who kept goosing her along and ramping up the anxiety. Poor Luci wasn't being given a minute to think rationally, it was all hurry, hurry, hurry. Look how all of us admit to our own blood pressure going up just watching.
 

It was a very loose plan, but the one sure thing was that the accomplice kept up the sense of fear and urgency with Luci and guided her outside under the guise of "helping" her get away. This way in case they were caught it was the mother and not another person who had the baby and they could just chalk it up to delirium due to her condition. That part was smart. The rest, including Gala's visit, not so much.
 

Decie Girl I am so with you about Luci's mental state in this situation. The poor girl has been thru so much medically in only twenty four hours, add to that the meds and her overprotective nature and there you go. Vivi said it too, about her medical state. I really don't think Paz's panic attacks have rubbed off on Luci, it was just the situation and the immediate threat.
 

Thanks for the recap Marta!!

No redemption possible for the 3B's. no how, no way!!! They are all dead to me!!!
 

To Emarie
SFChicaBonita, as in San Francisco, California.
SFChicaBonita
Go SF Giants!
 

Anon

I'm with you. Go Giants representing my beloved home town. I may be miales away but i'm always there in spirit.
 

I just re-read everything. Here are my thoughts on the Virgen medal.

1. I wonder if Pato and Vio had time to have the baby's birthdate engraved on the medal--they talked about it. That's why they decided to wait and give it to the baby after he was born.

2. If so, he's wearing it and would help identify him, if he's left on church steps (check birth registries for that day).

3. If so, the drunk who found baby Rodrigo (YES, GENEVIEVE--SHE NAMED HIM AFTER HIS FATHER) will pawn it for money. I don't think he'd keep something with some value.

5. I didn't see the medal when Carmela brought him in for a feeding the last time. Could it have been taken off?

4. How would a drunk explain acquiring a newborn? Please, please let him leave Roddy on church steps--but not Padre-not-anymore Guadalupe's church, but Padre Honesto's. Wouldn't that be irony?
 

Anita,

I don't think Vi and Pato had time to get the medal engraved. Seems to me Pato gave it to him the day after he was born but it should would be a big help.

I don't think the nurse would take the medal off the baby and risk being accused of stealing. It just didn't show. I did think that Gala might have grabbed it when she took off the hospital bracelet but since neither she or to Queen Witch knew the baby had it, it was overlooked (which is a mighty good thing).

The drunk may not have to explain the presence of a baby depending on where he lives maybe no one would care. On the other hand if the Linares/TL's have the brains God gave lettuce they will plaster pictures all over the country and the drunk might then consider giving the baby back for money or not notice the lost baby campaign. We also don't know if the drunk was a habitual drunk or someone on a one night bender.

I do like the idea of the baby being dropped on Padre Honesto's doorstep. Rosa would have a heart attack if that happened and she learned about it.
The drunk could also leave the baby at an orphanage where he would oneday be found. Endless possibilites.
 

I think Rosalena, Gala and her mother should all burn in hell, proceeded by and agonizing slow death first. To leave a baby by the garbage because they think the baby is nothing but garbage and even tell the little guy to just die is just plain sick and evil.
 

britishcomedyfan--Welcome to this forum. Pardon my asking, but what are you doing watching a serious, dark, unhappy Mexican telenovela. Your profile does not fit the genre! You have to admit, though the recaps and the comments have their own brand of humor. Please keep posting, we need new blood, not just RE's, Gala's and Juli's.
Anita
 

What just happened? I have only been gone a few days. OMG!!! Luci lost her baby due to a stoopid decision? I need to watch the last three episodes to understand. If there is one thing I hate these TNs for, it's their insensitivity to mothers and grandmothers. RE is actually willing to kill her own grandchild? Sorry, but this is too much. This may be a work of fiction but we do get emotionally sucked in. I have four grand babies under the age of four, so I am kind of sensitive to all babies.
Right now I have rented JudyB's couch permanently.What stress! Amor the breathing in and out is not helping. Strangling Estelita is what the doctor recommends.
Marta thanks for recapping a truly horrible episode. I am going back to watch the last three episodes. This sucks!!!

Olive
 

Marta, Vivi, JudyB, Anita, Madelaine, Frances - Thanks for the beautifully written recaps. Most times I can only catch the last 10-15 minutes of Refugio.

Now that the worst has happened, I'm expecting Rod to make up for his past estupideces and go ballistic to right this wrong. In addition to Rod and Claudio and, really, everybody, surely Pato and Max will figure out Rosa is behind this. When is she never not home at dinner time?

I'm wondering if the baby will wind up with Lastra since he's on the streets and trying to redeem himself.

Enjoyed all the rants against Estelita. Very therapeutic.

 

I keep thinking about what the drunk might do. He/she can't be a really bad person since h/s picked up a baby the witches had dumped by the garbage to die in the rain. So what next? If h/s takes the baby back to where h/s lives h/s may be thinking that the mother is a mala mujer and finding the medal which is expensive may make the drunk think the mother doesn't deserve the baby. When and if the Linares/TL's go public trying to find little Roddy the drunk may be afraid to take it back for fear that h/s will be accused of stealing the baby and will say and do nothing.

The L/TL's right now have the problem of not knowing that Luci and the baby have been separated and that they actually have two different searches to make. Did Luci have a hospital ID on her? I'm guessing not since the emergency team was taking her to another hospital. How long will it be before someone or Luci connects her with her loved ones?

Lord the writers have set up a tense scene for tonight. I hope they also stick to this story line and not give us a bunch of Het Het and Aldo/Vicki things. Especially since we don't have rRefugio tomorrow.

It is also clear to me that there is no redeeming for either Gala or Rosa. If somehow the writers have them suddenly turn into women with consciences and regret I for one am going to be majorly pithed. If any pair of characters deserve a slow death or better yet major rejection from everyone they know, accidents that take away their looks and to be left homeless and broke it is these two. I guess you can tell I'm still furious - LOL
 

Wow...Gagme & Rosa have stepped in it now. Amazing how the Champagne Cougar Queen could help plan but heaven forbid get her hands dirty. If Rod's apt. building has security cameras, Gagme & CCQ alibi may be toast. Rosa on the other hand, has no alibi. Remember Max asking Pato & Jana where Rosa was & both said they hadn't seen her all day. His look was like..hhhmmmmm and he didn't look pleased. I too agree that Max will help with the search for Little Rod.

The preview for tonite shows that janitor in the hotseat being questioned. So chances are the nurse pointed her out since they did talk in the hallway outside the nursery prior to this. The question will be did Gagme pay her enough $$$$ to stay with the story.

And heaven help Gagme with Rod. Oh yes he'll question her and of course she'll deny deny deny. By doing this she's all but pushed him to Luci. Any over/unders that he'll boot her butt out of his apt. anyway cuz he's had enough.

I'm wondering if when Gagme delivers her babino if (1) the baby is, god forbid, stillborn (remember her little drunken ramgage early on in the pregnancy) or (2) the baby is born o.k. but she has a complication that results in a deathbed confession??

And the drunk...I think someone mentioned a possible new character so I'm laying odds the drunk is it. What are the odds it turns out to be Gagme's daddy?? CCQ loves her money so with her alimony she could've put him in the poor house.

Hhhhmmm......
 

@ Hhhhmmm......the Anonymous--Wow would that ever be a revelation--Gagme's dadda. Interesting thought that they both became alcoholics but she's a rich one and can hide it and he's a poor one and can't.
 

Of course Max will help in the baby search. This is his flesh and blood and he was well on his way to being crazy about the baby from the moment he saw the pictures. i can't help wondering if it will mean a rapprochement with Claudio to at least being civil. They were good friends before the fraud occurred and here we have a child that carries their common blood as well as Aurora's. And Max has always liked Luci.

I don't think Rod will question Gala. He really has no idea how much a part she played in the get rid of the domestica in the beginning. He knows she hates Luci but i don't think for one minute he would think that a pregnant woman would be a depraved as we know she is. Now Rosa on the other hand is in for a grilling and not just from Rod.
 

Ooops I forgot this in my posts. Doe anyone know why Gagme and Rosa walked back to where Gagme dumped Little Rod? Was it to maake sure he wouldn't be found or to get him and dump in a church or someplace?
 

Decie Girl--As I recall, without going back to check, that the garbage pile was not to be the bebe's final resting place. Gala said the police drive-by scared her, she ducked and left the baby there--albeit taking off his ID bracelet first. I guess she thought that was as good a place as any. Rosa was pithed because....not sure...Vivi, Help!..so they went back and discovered the baby was gone.
 

I wonder if Rosa wanted to dump the baby at an orphange or church were she would know what happened to the baby and doubling her pleasure at Luci's pain. Now she has no idea where the infant is and it is out of her control. I still can't believe that she would be so evil with her own son's baby. The fires of hell are too good for her.
 

Decie girl--I do remember Roselena handing the baby to Gala in the car and said something to her. Then Gala got out of the car. I don't think they were near a church or other social service agency. They couldn't risk being seen. If Vivi doesn't answer the question tonight (she's recapping), we'll ask again tomorrow, ok?

I still don't know how they could rent a car, even paying in cash, without a whole lot of documentation--drivers license, insurance, etc. So that should leave a clue. But if the two ladies have an airtight alibi (Juli), there's nothing else to connect them. (OT--Have you seen Arbitrage yet? Lies and alibis abound.)
 

I didn't pay a ton of attention last time to the witches. I'll pay attention tonight.
 

Tonight's Episode (10-15-12) was THUNDEROUS!!!!!!

Poor Fabian looked the Most terrified in the hospital room when they discovered Luciana y bebe are missing ~ The LQQK On his faces was PRICELESS!!! Magda had the most evil look I have EVER seen since the beginning of the TN when she was looking @ Fabian!!!
You would think it was his fault by the look she kept giving him... Not even Don Achilles was the recipient of such scorn ~ Oh No Magda ~ LQQK TO THE LEFT.... It's Estelita who all should be blaming!

For me Rodrigo hold up Claudio Linares was an EPIC scene. #SOLIDARITY

WOW!!!!! Rosalena PANICKING?????? No I can't believe this COLD CALCULATING BIAAAA***H had the nerve!!!!!! This Witch should just turn herself in Now. Because she is Going to ROT then BURN in HELLL!!!!!!

Julie & Gala were so quick to wash their hands, reminding Rosalena that she (Rosa) isn't new to this baby disappearance Business!!!!
AAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

Its only a TN ~Seat belts WELL TIGHTENED (Baseball Bat in hand in Case I see R- G- J- along the way ) Because I'm Personally Taking them OUT PERSONALLY!!!!!