Wednesday, November 21, 2012
Amor Bravío #67 (Uni 62) Tue 11/20/12 Who's your Daddy?
Labels: bravio
Francisco Xavier is a real piece of work. It makes me wonder how Augustina landed her first husband (whom we have believed was a good man). I was cheering Camila all through that scene where she let him know she had his number.
I am not looking forward to her finding out that Andres is actually Daniel. Once she realizes they have no common DNA she will still be angry at the deception.
Amanda deserves a good man like Osvaldo.
Ileana should take a long walk off a short pier.
Cayetano is quite misguided. When he finds out that Pablo is actually the son of Don Daniel he will have a lightbulb moment or two but he still won't want him marrying the daughter of a servant. Whether he would still support the idea of Mariano with Camila is another story.
Since Cami recognized FX right away, that must mean she was old enough when he was her stepdad to have very clear memories of him. They said Xi was little when he left, so she might not remember him. Cami certainly knew him well enough to immediately have his number. It was so gross when he leered at her and mentioned how good looking she turned out. Now Cami has two lecherous stepdads hanging around. Yuck! Loved her keeping Dio in his place and putting her foot down about taking care of her own damn business, thank you very much.
Speaking of lecherous stepdads, that was a creepy exchange between Xi and her sugar daddy Dio. Glad that Al cut that short. The girl has no shame. And now she’s landed herself in deep doodoo by tangling with the Devil and his handmaiden.
If Cayetano and Rocio think that Pablo is going to hop on a plane and leave Luzma behind unprotected, they are stupid. Especially now that she has finally lowered her guard with him again and professed her love as they rolled him by on his gurney. I'm glad Yago is trying to redeem himself by helping the young lovers see each other.
Poor Agustina. Osvaldo has turned his sights toward the beautiful, kind, and smart Amanda. Agustina had him, but she rebuffed him in favor of Dionisio, and did it nastily. I guess Osvaldo said "fine, forget you then."
Ximena and Dionisio, Alonso and Isadora --- boundaries people! And then Dionisio and Isa ... ewwww ... they're so animalistic. It really looks like they are eating each other alive when they, um ... uh ... "kiss."
So glad that Camila has the document in her own hands!!
Agustina and Javier ... I guess this shows that Agustina really hasn't had a man who truly loved her. So sad.
Vivi and Rafa (love them!) are really good friends to Daniel/Andres. I was touched to see them hanging outside of his hospital room, trying to do the things that he would want them to do.
Glad to see that Yago is trying to be a good guy.
Luzma and Natalia ... great girlfriendy moment between them as they walked arm and arm through the field! They seem like they will be lifelong friends!
Rodolfo ... yes, he was in charge. Good job Senor Foreman!
Paquita, I liked this line in your recap:
* Hissadora has a Hissy fit (“hissy fit” get it? yuk yuk)
Thanks!
I especially liked your saying that when bug-eyed Hissadora looked at her son, you were "surprised Alonso didn’t just spontaneously burst into flames right then and there." Indeed, it's also hard to believe that Hissadora's eyes stayed in their sockets through the episode, first during Ximena's revelation and then Dionisio's seeming support for Ximena.
For a fleeting moment, when Agustina chews out Dio for his terrible behavior toward her, I thought perhaps she was growing a pair (biologically improbable, I know), but she winds up pathetic as usual. As you said so well,
"Agustina takes the bait – hook, line, sinker, and the pole itself!"
It's hard to believe that Gullible Gussy the Wuss managed to raise two gutsy daughters. I loved Camila's repeatedly standing up to Dio, but last night I also found myself cheering for Ximena as she demanded part of the action from the Powers of Darkness. Whether this will get her killed off is anyone's guess. It's certainly Dio's intention, but so far he hasn't been as successful as most TN villains in accomplishing his evil deeds (starting with Julian's failure to kill Daniel in Chile).
As I said before, it feels that we're much further along in this TN than just the halfway point. I still think we're likely to see a temporarily disillusionsed Camila turn to Mariano as more than just a friend, but I can't guess what else the writers will throw at us.
Gussy is totally the type of woman who gets her self worth from having a man, and who would have disbelieved/blamed Camila or Ximena had one of her husbands molested them.
The sad thing is she could have had a good man in Osvaldo, but I guess he wasn't as dashing as Dionisio. Augustina likes the money & prestige (no different than Ximena)...too bad that's going to be her downfall.
I see Camila's and Ximena's gutsiness as a reaction to Agustina's silliness with men.
I think Camila has worked hard in school to have her own career and to be able to support herself so she won't end up like Augustina, either depending on Don Daniel for support or living off of Camila for support.
I don't think status matters that much to her because she knows it can be taken away from you in a second. She would have grown up as the daughter of wealthy Mr. Monterde had he lived, and would have grown up as the daughter of wealthy widow Monterde had Gussy not been swindled by FX, but all their money was taken away* & they had to depend on Camila's uncle for support.
I think Ximena sees how silly her mother gets over men and has vowed not to be hurt by a man so she's out to get what she can get and have the good times she can have before she gets hurt. She's going to stand up for herself and stand up for what she wants instead of being like her mother, who pined away for Don Daniel for 15(?) years and did nothing about it.
I think both Camila & Ximena are reacting against Augustina in different ways.
*If FX swindled Agustina out of the inheritance Mr. Monterde left her, what did he do with the money, because he clearly looks like Bob from Accounting instead of a fly by night swindler livin' it up.
I very much doubt that an 11 year old would care or even notice Andres and ask about him and why Camila is there for him. No kid would do this in real life. Ok, that was the first time I needed to put a beanie on for this TN.
I am SO glad that the kiss between Mariano and Cam was just his imagination going wild. Pheew!
Anita posted a good point at the end of last nights comments that Dan isn't supposed to know Rafa and that's why Cam was wondering about the computer.
I figured that Javier would eventually run into Aggie. I think Dion recognized the notary that was used knowing it was the same one that Isa used for the will. So he knows Isa is behind all this.
Couldn’t tell if Pablo was looking at Nana because he was uncomfortable with a girl crying all over him or if he didn’t know whether to believe her or not. There was a split second moment when I thought Nana might believe her, but for the most part she just kept rolling her eyes. It looked like that final look she gave him was a “no way is she sincere, dude” look.
Paquita: Laugh out loud line: “After they leave, Hissadora has a Hissy fit (“hissy fit” get it? yuk yuk)”. Great recap.
What is it about Agustina and her paranoia re: everybody talking about them?! She’s annoying me.
Javier, die. I don’t care if you never do anything worse than conning people. Die. Because I can’t stand your laughing, lying face (I hate these kind of villains).
“He reminds her she once thought he was a big deal and never thought to know anything about him. All she was interested in was catching a husband and she succeeded!” OMG! That is exactly who Agustina is.
Once Agustina turned Osvaldo down for Dio, I was all for him hooking up with Amanda. She is so much the better woman. She’s kind, intelligent, strong and a perfect partner for him. I’m on Team Amanvaldo. Do they have a theme song yet? I didn’t notice.
“Speaking of Pablo, Cayetano comes to his room and announces that everything is in place for Pablo to attend the university for his master’s degree. Pablo’s shocked. Cayetano says it’s too late. After what’s happened, it’s not safe for him to remain here. Rocio and Cayetano will take him to the university as soon as he’s out of the hospital.” What?!!! Isn’t he of age? These people are annoying me, too.
I knew after the Mariano/Cam fantasy moment and he was smiling, that he was going to fight for her. The deal was sealed when they ended the ep on his frozen face.
Now on to the other comments. Can’t wait.
Nanette
Also agree that both Camila and Ximeana decided to not be like their mother. But that's where the resemblance stops.
Great recap. I wish my Spanish allowed me to feel the situation as I watch it on TV as those who can understand the language do, but these recaps make up for it and give you chuckles as icing on the cake.
Cindy
Both Gussie and Don Daniel had no idea Javier was Agatha's husband? A real beanie moment. But now I guess it won't be much longer before Daniel finds out he has a sister.
Time for Daniel to wake up already.
I get a kick out of bad girl Ximeana so I hope they don't kill her off. Gussie saying it was like Ximeana was dead to her was sooo cold.
- When they were in their late teens/early 20s, Agatha goes to Mexico for university or something. She meet Amanda and they become best friends. She meets Don Daniel. They fall in love, but nothing comes of it and they part ways.
- A few years later, Agatha, who stayed in Mexico (likely Mexico City or another big city), is married to FX but realizes she might have made a mistake in her choice of husband. She goes to visit her friend Amanda in Aculco to clear her head and think things over. (In Amanda's memory, Agatha is telling Amanda her husband's name. Clearly he wasn't there with her.)
- Agatha reconnects with Don Daniel, but unfortunately he has also married someone. They don't discuss their spouses, but they realize their love is still very deep. They have an affair. Realizing this is all wrong, Agatha leaves and returns to her husband. She decides to give marriage to him another chance and suggests they try that second chance in her home country of Chile.
- Once they get to Chile, it becomes obvious that FX is never going to change. Agatha decides t end the marriage. FX returns to Mexico, never to be heard from by her again.
- A few years later, Don Daniel's wife has died, and so has his brother. His widowed sister-in-law Gussy comes to live with him. She has always loved him, but when they were young, he fell in love with that Chilena ese, Agatha. Then he chose her cousin Amparo to marry. She married the next best thing-- Don Daniel's brother. Before he death, Amparo confides in Gussy that Agatha returned and Don Daniel had a fleeting affair with her. Gussy's hatred of Agatha grows even more.
- When it becomes clear that even though they are both widowed, Don Daniel still won't give her the time of day, Gussy falls for the first man who crosses her path and asks her to marry him-- fortune hunter FX.
- Even though Don Daniel never knew who he was, FX knew who the rich rancher was who his wife was always in love with. He might have even approached Gussy purposely to infiltrate the Monterdes and get some of their money- partly because it was a good opportunity, and partly because it was a bit of revenge-- just like now.
In this way, Gussy and Don Daniel would have never known FX was Agatha's husband, and Amanda would have known his name (Agatha might have even shown her a pic). A bit complicated, but that's how I picture it.
Haha...about the whiskers: - has she been reading our blog?
Haha...Alonso’s pulling up his big boy pants now....
Haha...Alonso stares at her, dumbfounded (not so hard to do for him)...
Haha...looks like a financial paper, it says DINERO splashed across the front.
I think Rodolfo called Mariano to let him know the bulls had all been weighed and they are on their way to...???? and something about the papers--which is what Natalia brought him.
UA--thanks for bringing up the point of Rafa's computer in Dan's room. I forgot to.
Nanette: Q. >What?!!! Isn’t he of age? These people are annoying me, too.<
A. Many wealthy families arrange a trust (or the whole inheritance) that doesn't start until the age of 25 or 26--thinking that by that time they (especially boys) would have sown their wild corn and settled down to a career and family. So, maybe Pablo is stuck with a weekly allowance. Thus, having to be at Mommy & Daddy's beck and call.
Oh dear, will Allgussiedup's words re the chofer's story for seducing Camila come back to make her doubt Dan's sincerity when she finds out that Andres is not Andres? In true tn lore, she will believe her silly mother and not Daniel.
Interesting, too, that both times, FX was married to women that were really in love with Big Don Dan ("g" maybe he had one of those...). He must have really been something--and for both of them to have settled for someone so far beneath him is very curious.
The timeline is all my speculation based on what we've seen and heard. But it's the only thing that makes sense to me. Don Dan was the only one who stayed stationary in Aculco, while Agatha, Agustina, and Amanda seemed to come and go at various times over the years.
I was very annoyed with con artist Francisco’s behavior at the ranch. When presenting his argument, he was so sure that the phony documents gave him the upper hand until he had no qualms about insulting them and laughing in their faces.
Cathyx 12:27, you wrote: “Anita posted a good point at the end of last nights comments that Dan isn't supposed to know Rafa and that's why Cam was wondering about the computer”.
I don’t understand this. I thought that Cam is aware that Rafael knows both Andres and Daniel. No?
Until Andres was brougt to the hospital, the ONLY person who Cami had confided in about her relationship with him was Vivi. She has no idea that all these other people know because they are on Team Daniel and Andres is Daniel.
I hope Camila doesn't turn to Mariano when the truth comes out. There is a whole lot of truth that is pounding on the closet door and it's all explosive.
Finally, why has nobody until now gotten someone to investigate matters in Chile to find out whether Miriam is still alive or not? It's very likely that she still is. How is that going to play?
- Al suggesting that Andres is a spy.
- Andres not having any form of ID anywhere.
- Andres having Rafa's computer.
- Gussy saying Andres told her he came to Mexico following a woman he loved.
Hmm, what does that make Camila.
Xi comes pretty much at the end, unless we want to spell Javier with an X.
Fun to speculate on choice of names for all these tns. Sometimes I try to check the credits to catch how many names of real people have been used (splitting up first and last names, of course).
Over on Refugio, we do NOT have a real Bruno, so my statistics are screwed up on how many times a Bruno is a villain. But a Bruno clone has shown up in Mirko, no?
I'm going to spell Xavier with an X since I Ximena is being spelled with an X. Plus I like writing FX for his name.
Maybe it would have been too much to give Rocio an "A" name, especially since her last name starts with "A".
I like the name Camila, but wasn't that the name of the bland protagonist in Talisman? This Camila has way more personality than that one.
Vivi- True, there are lots of things that are not adding up with Andres. Can't wait til she has her talk with Osvaldo. Hopefully that will happen tonight.
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