Friday, February 08, 2013
Amor Bravío #122 (Uni 117) Thu 2/7/13 Amor Complicadissimo
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“Agustina's titanium-lined beanie lives to fight another day.” It’s going to be ugly when that beanie is finally ripped off.
For me, it was definitely a highlight for me to see Mariano straightening out Teresa. He’s a straight shooter. I can’t blame him for going after the woman he loves anymore than I blame her for going after him. After all, you can’t manda your heart to stop loving, either.
Thank you, 5 footer!
I was hugely amused at the shopping scene. El Diablo clearly knew Natalia's favorite color (though not necessarily her favorite styles) and whatever his motive for this I had to laugh at how he's not thinking ahead here. How does he expect to get the love and respect of a daughter who not only spied on him for others but who would really hate what he's looking to do to Camila?
He knew how to get the sales clerk to assist him when Gussie clearly didn't want to (It's a job skill to him) and he was clearly annoyed with Gussie and her ridiculous attitude.
Considering that they aren't exactly kids, the idea of having a stepdaughter should have occurred to her. Not to mention that since there are so many single mothers in Mexico and the men have been culturally expected to fool around anyway, why should this be such a shock to anyone? Most people have lives of their own to be concerned about.
She's still being bitchy to Amanda, who doesn't deserve it.
After the scene with El Diablo and Natalia I am wondering what he really feels for her. However, since he will soon have to find out that she is pregnant that's when we'll know. It will be amusing to see Iago's face when El Diablo goes after him.
Now back to the truly important stuff. Love your point about the memo to the Planet because these lies and half-truths are not sustainable. Something's gotta give and that will happen before anyone is ready for it. This latest thing about Miriam's fatigue looks like my speculation is about right.
My first thought last night when Dio gave Natalia a credit card that she could use "for emergencies" was that she could use it to pay for an abortion, but then I thought "no one pays for an abortion with a credit card" and then "this TN may be unconventional, but I doubt that they'll have her want or have an abortion." I don't know whether Rodolfo will step up and offer to marry her, but that doesn't seem like a good way to start a marriage. Nor, of course, would Dio's bribing or coercing Yago. And I'd like to see something better for Natalia than single motherhood. I suppose she could always have a miscarriage.... Sigh.
Cambiando de tema, I was happy to see that Amanda's marriage certificate included fingerprints. I hope they're not just hers. Somehow, I fear that Dio would be too savvy to leave his. I hope I'm wrong. (The odds do favor my being wrong. :-) )
Ana's revelation to Miriam, coupled with Dan's not coming immediately up to see Miriam, must surely give her some food for thought. Unless she, too, has a titanium-lined beanie, she's likely at least to become more uneasy.
I'm eager for tonight's episode.
I was consoled by calming effect of the Padre Anselmo scene with its rational choices and call for action; a pity he wasn't there for Camila.
What young woman wants to be dumped with a bunch of "random expensive stuff " that some slimeball pretender just picked out for her. I need a shower!
"I'm pretty sure telling Miriam how Luzma got pregnant wouldn't be approved by her doctor." Mis sentimientos, exactamente. This gal's a bit too frail for her own good. Bring on that psychiatrist!
The Teresa/Mariano scene was s-o-o icky. As was the Dionisio/Natalia scene. I feel smothered in ICK.
Are Augie's sidewards glances supposed to indicate a brief moment of conflict in which the truth tries vainly to penetrate the beanie?
Please please please, Osvaldo make photocopies of that documento with the huellas of Hector/Dio/whoever!
And muchas gracias Kat! I love your recaps.—Agnes in NJ
On the subject of fingernails, I'm surprised that Hissadora's aren't longer. All the other female characters seem to have nails that are appropriate for who they are.
If Osvaldo doesn't remember about xerox copies (or computer scans), Margarita will.
Out of the mouths of babes.
At least Dionicia put Augustina in her place about calling his hija, esa muchacha, in her demeaning way.
Miriam isn't stupid, she knows sth is up & I'm sure she's going to find out what.
I don't think Ana ever really disliked Cam. They danced together at Luzma's wedding just days after she got miffed at her about marrying Dan. Plus, she wanted to be a vet even before meeting Cam. I think once she accepts that Cam will not end up with her dad, she'll still see Cam as a cool role model.
I laughed when Dio picked out every yellow item in the store. I wanted to slap Gussy for her ugly attitude towards Amanda, and in the woman's house no less!
—AgnesNJ
But I do know that in Africa, the Caribbean, and throughout LatAm red strings are tied on the wrists of babies for good luck and to ward off evil. This might the case of a tradition so old that it's not really tied to any particular faith or one tradition.
It's not hard to get fingerprints. Just save the glass he was drinking from.
I hated that scene with Nat and Dion. I wanted her to throw him out and not only did she not do that, but she acted all happy.
It's time for Teresa to look for Dante. Mariano just isn't into her anymore.
I don't get these young people. If a girl you had sex with tells you I have news that will change both of our lives forever, why wouldn't the first thing you think of be a baby?
I dread seeing Nat have live through the reality anvil but she created this fantasy Yucko that is not the person she is with. I would like to see Dio scare Yucko but it will be a true tragedy if they marry. I hope Amanda can let her know about the misery of marrying a bad man.
UA - Miriam's frailness is becoming an issue though I am still holding out hope for a resolution that has Cam with Dan and Miriam not dead.
One of the reasons I've lost patience with Mariano is his timing. If Dan were to pick Miriam, does he think he'll be with Cam the next day? It will take more than a minute for Cam to recover and I don't see him waiting patiently as a "friend." His hope seems as unrealistic as Teresa's desire to get him.
Yeah for the marriage certificate. All Os has to do is tell Dan to swipe a glass Dio was using right?
When Caridad said to go get some fresh air, she didn't mean go poking around inside MQ's other rooms. She got what she deserved. Well, not really, but every bit of information she gets now she should be feeding into her Daniel-Data-Base.
Poor Camila, she's being drawn into the same Lying-Because-We're-Protecting-You she was on the other end of at the beginning. It's obvio she doesn't like it. This time they can justify it that knowing the real situation might cause permanent damage.
I just hope Dan continues to convince her of his love and she doesn't go off to brood while he makes up his mind.
Interesting that Mariano's reasons for not getting back together with Teresa are the same ones Camila used on him. Isn't he listening to himself?
Aaron, Aaron, why or why didn't they give you a good story line for the last half. I really enjoyed you and your D'Aaron role-playing.
OK, gotta go.
Augustonta is beyond redeemable territories--her disdain towards Amanda is vexing; can't wait to see her begging her for doubting.
As much I dislike Dio, I was cheering when he put Augustonta in her place for calling Nat "esa muchacha". So Dio intends to buy Nat's filial love ...
Mariano & Teresa --IRONY--Mariano should flashback to his conversation with Camila and compare points with Teresa's conversation with him; then buy a clue.
Miriam-what's more important to Dan than you and Agatha--you don't want to know or you'll risk permanent coma.
As much as we despise Yago, one thing about his character is he never pretended to be a gentleman; he had always made it clear to Nat that she was just a piece of ass. It was Nat who built this whole fairy tale romance and gave it up too quickly to a guy with a great smile while solid Rodo is right around the corner pining for her ...
Myo-
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/09/business/media/telenovelas-popularity-brings-business-to-florida.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
But, alas, her reaction seems to suggest that he has indeed come upon her at a very vulnerable moment.
She does know better: she was already on board with Dan's characterization of Dio, and may not have seen the passports, but heard a lot and saw the guns in the drawer.
But she obviously really wanted to fill a father-sized hole in her life, and Dio has always managed to keep the blood off his own hands so that there's room for her to believe that he's not THAT bad...
Thank you to all the recappers and commenters this exciting week! And thank you to whoever figured out about half a year ago how to fit so many recaps on one page so we don't have to use the sidebar (as some of us don't have access to that anymore).
I noticed Camila told Miriam her husband died in a crash along with her hermana gemela. Twin sister? We know that can't be? Did she get confused with CME?
I had to laugh at Gussie's face, eye roll and head shake when Dio told the sales clerk his daughter was guapa como usted.
And Gussie couldn't even spit out "su hija". She had to say "su Natalia".
Please let Vivi and Rafa adopt Roman! I wonder how old Vivi's baby would have been now? Close to Roman's age?
Anita - maybe Aaron can get together with NG? Or Teresa? There's still time. Or are we still thinking he could be asexual?
If El Diablo ends up channeling Vito Corleone in that situation then Iago will become Carlo Ricci and we know how he ended up.
Nat deserves better than that.
And I think Aaron is probably asexual. He'd make a good priest.
I think Aaron puts his work above love life. Perhaps like Teresa did all those years ago. In any case, I don't think he's suffering because of it. He seems happier than ever with all his projects, including Leo.
Is it wrong that I'm a little impresses with how quickly Hissadora has been able to manipulate Cayetonto into a big ring and new car? And that I'm wondering if there is anyone that dumb around here?
I was born in Spain and my mom told me that the baby girls get earrings almost as soon as they come out. Except for me. Lousy American parents.
Kelly
His ex took them for ear piercing at the age of 12, like it was a milestone event. She only allowed them to wear stud posts and no hoops until they were 18. I'm not sure she was able to enforce that.
Augustina needs to be put in her place about a lot of things:
a) Daniel is a part owner of LMQ, not her. She had no right to order Piedad & Gang to move his belongings or order him off LMQ or demand he go back to Mexico. Leave her daughter alone, maybe. Ordering him off the property, no.
b)Augustina would not like it if Dionisio were nasty to HER daughters, so she shouldn't be nasty to his. She really has no right to whine about Dionisio buying a gift for his child, no matter what his motives may be.
Miriam isn't stupid, she knows sth is up & I'm sure she's going to find out what.
IMO Miriam already knows something is up because she's been pawing and clinging all over Daniel ever since she stepped out of the cab. I don't remember her being that clingy before the shooting. She does have a right to be clingy b/c that's her husband of 3+ years that she is losing through no fault of her own. I do think she knows deep down Daniel is lost to her and that's why she wants to have sex so badly, to prove to herself that he is still hers.
Poor Miriam. It's hard to root against a beautiful woman as unassuming as her who wears those sensible heels. Would it be so bad if Camila encouraged Dan to give it a go with her and the baby? I find myself wanting that to play out.
THEN (before I get booed off this site), Miriam will find out about Dan's lies and fling herself into the arms of the handsome best friend from Chile -dang, freezing up on his name.
You are right, UA. Camila must have said mi hermana Ximena and not mi hermana gimela. Thanks.
Carolina - I love your little picture! Should I recognize it? So cute!
I love the pacing of this TN. Can't believe we're closing in on Ultimas Semanas. This TN--for me, at least--has done an awesome job of balancing the good and bad and thrown in some awesome surprises for good measure. I've been spoiled--two good TNs in a row (CME and AB).
Will Iago's reaction to Nat's news finally convince her that he's a jerk (I'm actually thinking of far worse names I can't type on this board)?
I'm feeling sorry for Agustina. How is she going to react when she finds out her husband is a fraud and to top it off, just married her to get closer to her daughter? The deeper she digs her hole, the more frustrated I get with her. But also, the more I pity her for what's to come.
Nanette
Anyway, I am rooting for Camila and Daniel big time, do find Miriam to be lovely. I, too, want her to find happiness! We have some good eligible men in the crew. Unfortunately, I fear that something more ominous awaits her. Not only do we have her fatigue and impending doctors' analyses, as UA points out, but the moment of her passing the baby to Camila and Camila getting rather comfortable with it if only for a moment, felt like some foreshadowing. I certainly hope I'm wrong in this regard.
Speaking of titanium-lined beanies, wouldn't you take a full set of doctor's evaluations from a smallish-town compared to what doctors in a big hospital in a large city like Santiago might say? One more case of NT medicine, though one often gets very good doctoring locally -- it was just the way that the doctor presented the range of services that made laugh.
So Dio loves Natalia, but boy does it complicate matters when it appears to him that love and commerce can go so nicely together if his daughter Natalia marries an heir to Buenaventura and carries his heir. One more division between our two very evil ones.
Stay safe fellow-east-coasters. Haven't we had enough crazy weather this year?
RlaO: I agree, I wanted Cami to tell him to give it a chance with Miriam and then have her and Dan realize it just wasn't going to work again.
Poor Teresa. After last night's scene, I think she and Mariano will end up with Dante and Miriam rather than each other.
I hope we don't have to wait until Dio gets arrested for something to get his fingerprints. I hope Nat just says, if you're telling the truth, just give us your fingerprints. I wonder if someone will tell Yago that now that Nat's (dad's) rich, he should stay with her, since he, like his mom, have such a problem with the "altura."
Whoa! The Youtube advances are very different from the TV advances! (I won't reveal, so as not to inadvertantly give out a spoiler.
Watch the avances where Dan climbs into bed with Cam be another dream. They ended this episode on Yucko's face when the next scene would have been Miriam's poking her head in the cabana. Hopefully tonight!
"Natalia, honey, emergency trip to the Bahamas…think about it".
I also jotted down "en el corazon no se manda"? ("You can't give your heart orders". That's really applicable to several of our characters.
Miriam is so in love and has my sympathy for what will undoubtedly be her fate (since we know Cami will end up with Dan). But I have to admit that it's a bit annoying to have her constantly mention her love for Dan and their future together in each and every sentence that comes out of her mouth and to each and every person she comes in contact with. She needs to come off of cloud 9 and pay attention to the atmosphere and especially Dan's non verbal behaviour.
I'll admit that I have a lot of nerve saying this because I was just as blind many years ago when I was in a long distance relationship. After a long time of ignoring signs that were right before my eyes, I realized that when a person's feelings change, they don't always spelled it out in black and white. Sometimes you have to read between the lines.
“If a girl you had sex with tells you I have news that will change both of our lives forever, why wouldn't the first thing you think of be a baby”?
That’s because a man (erroneously) thinks that it’s the woman’s job to protect herself from getting pregnant. Life changing surprises for a guy would be more like:
1. I’m in love with your best friend
2. I’m gay
3. I’ve decided to join the convent
4. I just discovered we’re related.
5. I’ve been accepted to a college in Tokyo.
Dion doesn't love Natalia. He's doing this to get back at Amanda. She left him and he couldn't find her. She pulled one over on him and he hates that. He's getting back at her by taking Natalia away from her.
I'd love to see El Diablo and Cayetano argue about dowries and pre-nups. I wonder whether this could potentially mess up El Diablo and the Black Widow's plans. That would be amusing.
We know how Gussie will react; you could put money on that one. She is not only going to be outraged she will probably interfere.
As for the fingerprints, I'm wondering whether any of those leather items he gave Natalia would have fingerprints on them.
OT RdLO and Traveling Lady- RE: the pooch, I have had collies in the last years but recently we adopted a Yorkipoo. He is really cute and has a lot of personality. Yes, he is smart, but stubborn! Our collies are smart and compliant so you can really see the difference.
I wish we could see flashbacks of a younger Dio playing with a baby Natalia. Maybe he did love her, and maybe he has missed her. I hope. If she thinks it hurts having Yago turn on her, wait til it's her dad.
It’s actually a photo that I took on a gorgeous old Mexican hacienda turned into a museum. I figured that made it appropriate to use here.
TL: I thought Dan’s questions about Miriam’s diagnosis had more to do with his distrust of Abe’s version of things than the doctors involved. Cute pup!
Foxy, I would like Miram so much more if she would climb down from cloud nine and just get a fricking clue. And what kind of house guest goes rambling around and barging into bedrooms univited? My momma didn’t raise me to do that. Miriam also could get a clue that she isn’t completely welcome in the home of a bunch of strangers as an uninvited guest.
I’m really hoping that Dan climbs into bed with the woman he has told he considers his wife. That would do the two of them a world of good. Camila is right that she is being a coward. (I didn’t catch exactly what she said in the chapel, but she used that word.) Only one of them is going to end up with Dan. She needs to decide if she would rather be nice to Miriam or spend her life with Dan. And she needs to fight for him if she wants to keep him.
We need to see more of Maja!
RlaO: I also love the name Hobie Mozarrella.
Camila needs to show a little spunk. Miriam has gotten between her and her husband and their plans for future children. She isn't responsible for this situation and Dan has made his preference clear. Now she needs to stand up for herself and stop worrying about Miriam.
A coward dies a thousand deaths and I am going to throw a thousand things at my tv set during the next few weeks if Camila goes that route.
I'm 90 miles inland from Boston but the Weather Channel said to expect blizzard conditions in my area tonight. :(
I hope Dante will have a lot more finesse with Miriam than Mariano and Teresa with their "if you can't be with the one you love, maybe you can learn to love me."
I could swear I saw a red thread on Camilla's left wrist last night, because I wondered about the significance.
Also, thanks to all the recappers, I am in awe of your writing/translating abilities, and really look forward to the recaps and comments.
Otra Lurker
Urban A, I think Dio will do something paternal when he finds out Natalia is pregnant. That will be probably the one and only time I will be on his side, that is if he gives Yago hell for his dissing Natalia.
As for Agustina, I really can't stand her treatment of Amanda, although I did think she felt knocked down a peg by Amanda's words, which will undoubtedly be prophetic.
I think Padre Anselmo made perfect sense in that the lies to Miriam cannot continue. We all remember how impactada Camila was when she learned Dan's true identity. This whole protection conspiracy of Miriam is for me way too out of proportion. What makes anybody think that she will one day be able to handle it better? I say tell her the truth, and don't forget to add that it is Abe who is to blame for it all...even though he's now "seen the light." Too late, bro.
Soyyo
Otra Lurker: I also noticed the string on Camila's wrist.
Kelly: Padre Anselmo may be the best padre ever, but he did give Teresa advice to go after Mariano, didn't he?
Aleta
BNinCA
I have not been commenting much on this Tela.....i have been reading all the recapps......and come to CARAY everyday.......Stay Warm.......
Thanks!
I'll be making a batch of stuffed vine leaves tomorrow for a Meetup on Sunday.
In the meantime, I'm looking forward to tonight's episode.
I'm with those who don't see a lot of difference in the behaviors of Teresa and Mariano, although it appears that Teresa actually may have had a real shot at Mariano once upon a time and blew it while Mariano never really had a chance with Camila in that way.
My heart really goes out to those of you facing this incredible weather. Stay safe and warm.
Carlos
Fingerprints. There has to be a chain of evidence so a sworn officer of the law or technician would have to collect the sample for testing. Otherwise, Dio's monotone lawyer will be objecting.
I didn't mean that Aaron had to be hooked up with anyone. I just liked his character when he was part of the action.
I think Dionisio *thinks* he loves Natalia as a daughter. He doesn't really know what it means to have one. He probably thinks she will be someone he can dominate and control. Someone who would look up to him without question. Little does he know that might not turn out the way he wants.
As little as I can stand Dio, I hope he hits Yago where it will really hurt. Naive Natti heard what everyone said about his reputation as a playboy, but she chose to believe in his smooth-talking lines as his "rehabilitation" through her love for him. I don't ever remember his telling her he was just using her for a roll in the hay. However, her not reading the red flag when he didn't want to acknowledge their relationship-even casual dating, was her vision through those rose colored glasses. Too bad she didn't stick to her guns when she gave him an ultimatum at Luzma's wedding. But then we saw him being extra nice to her and she caved.
Anita, you have called it: He has no idea what it is to be a father. He wasn't there for all the hard stuff; he has a finished product that was all due to Amanda's efforts.
I can't figure out if he has any real feelings for her at this point. However, when he finds out about Iago's using her I think he will go after him. There's no way he won't find out, either, and Iago's goose will be cooked.
You're making stuffed vine leaves tomorrow....yum. I'll be cooking tomorrow as well, eggplant parmigiana for a friend's birthday.
BTW, on Sunday don't forget to tune in for the wedding show clipfest at 4PM EST. Two hours of great novela wedding footage. I don't think they've done one of those shows in two decades.
Thanks for the heads up on the wedding fest. Won't be home, but will DVR it.
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