Saturday, February 16, 2013
Amores Verdaderos #70 Fri 2/15/13 Date Night, Elvis, And Furry Fornicator's Malfunction
Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen, such a fun epi this evening. Elvis even enters the building, and leaves the building of course. We have a bowling date/s, and the Furry Fornicator has a major equipment malfunction. What else happened you asked?? Please read further to find out.
Birthday Cake and The Date is Set Up:
So Ms Vikki and the Angel nosh on the birthday cake and make a date, to a place of Ms Vikki's choosing. Hmmmm where could that be? But not with her bodyguard but she wants Angel to go as her companion! Is it a date? Yeah, it's a date.
Nikki and Guzmi Make a Date:
So Nikki and Guzmi are doing the tango, well not really, but Nikki wants to go on a date with him too, to a place of her choosing, Guzmi thinks it's a joke, but not it's a date, is he in??? Yeah, he's in.
Your Kiss In On My List, Of The Best Things in Life:
So now we have Dances and Betty at a table at the Salsa Club. Dances is leaning in for the kiss, when Betty pulls away, we in Viewerville sigh, a big collective sigh, and take a sip of our Baileys. So Betty tells him when they dance, things are fab, but as soon as the music stops, she can't help but think about what Kendho said about him, being peligroso (dangerous), yeah that's the ticket, and she doesn't know him well, and well, she doesn't want another one like Leo the Horrible in other words. Dances, without his sunglasses, naked eyes, no obfustication, tells her he completely understands. He tells her that yes, in the past he was not a good person, he has done some things that, if she knew, he wouldn't expect her to like him at all. He does have a past, he isn't proud of, he hasn't killed anyone. Santino Roco has this past, but since he met Betty, he wants to change, meeting Betty has helped him break the chains of his addiction, er bad to the bone actions with we all know with who, but Betty doesn't. He wants to break free of that now and wants a chance at deserving her lurvvvve.... and they are leaning and getting closer and then.....yes, we have contact, er a meeting of the lips and Yowsa, what a kiss I must say!!!!! There is cheering at the Betty table and the Bodyguard table is a little subdued. We'll get back to them.
Guzmi and Angel in the Shower, and we women in Viewerville are peeking, looking, oh, hell we are OOGLING, Jus' sayin'.
So what exactly are Angel and Guzmi doing in the shower. Wait, while I oogle and I'll tell you. Guzmi has walked in, seeing Angel taking a shower and wants to know why the hey he is takin' a shower at this time of the night? Well, Ms Vikki is goin' out and so he decided to take one now. And Guzmi, why is he takin' one now??? Er, well, he always takes one before he goes to bed. They just had to know and now you do. The view for the women of Viewerville is spectacular I must say!
Her name was Lola, She Was a Show Girl, And Betty Makes a Decision:
Dances says that kiss just touched his heart and he thanks her for it.
Seems our Dances, is opening up about his Mama being a show girl and he had to share her with many men. Never knew who his Daddy was and his Mama did every thing she could to get rid of Dances while in the womb, evidently. There must be some reason Dances survived, Betty showed up and now he wants to be more like her, ya know kind, good, etc. He has some good things in him, he is sure, despite having previously lived a bad life. He is sure if Betty accepts him and Betty cuts him off and says she beleives in him. Sigh! Dances thanks her for trusting him and some day he will tell her the whole story of his life, he is willing to tell her. She cuts him off again and tells him despite Leo and what Kendho said, Betty has come to a decision, doncha know. She accepts him just the way he is. There is cheeryness between the two and Betty only has one condition: Since she is getting a divorce, this must remain a secret between Dances and Betty, this new found novio/novia status, and Dances tells her he, wait for it, lurrrvvvves her. Sigh, kisses and what a kiss abound and then they are off to dancing of course. What a great couple, but I fear the anvil of doom is lurking.
"I Haven't Got a Thing To Wear"? Where is Anita from Meta Mart, We Need Some Partay Clothes, Stat!
So split screen of Nikki trashing her room, and I mean the clothes are everywhere, just tossed on the floor while our Nikki complains she has got nothin' to wear, while Ms Vikki, is rooting thru her closet looking for something to wear too. Sigh, wear some jeans and a T-shirt and comfortable shoes, jus' sayin'. Well Ms Vikki has to decide on her own, but Nikki gets some help from Guzmi, who has come up to her room, wanting to know what is taken so long!!!! It's all about the fashion (in Ingles), something trendy, but cool, ya know different. Guzmi thinks she has too many choices, since she has the dilemma he's got the remedy, he picks out black slacks, sequined black top, and Nikki is impressed with his fashion (in Ingles) sense and he has the right touch. Guzmi agrees!!!!!
What Do You Get When You Snoop Around?
The Godfather, my new name for Antonio, has called Adriana about that doc, ya know the one, that delivered Lucia. The Doc's name is Alberto Montano, and let's see if he regurgitates the same lie as Anyballs. Adri has the addy and will go seem him tomorrow. The Godfather just wants Anyballs to tell our Adri the truth, but even if he did, says Adri she will never forgive his sorry butt.
The Bowling Alley Date:
I have a confession to make here, about bowling. When I was in the military, I worked for the CO of the base as his Yeoman and was required to bowl on the Cap'ns team. Well needless to say, I am just as Angel is here, a bumbling boobie, jus' sayin. I ended up keeping score : ) Oh, and by the by, I play a killer game of golf, jus' sayin'.
So now Angel and Ms Vikki are picking out bowling shoes. So they get their shoes and Angel wants to know whose on first???? Well, it's Ms Vikki's birthday, so she goes, and gets a strike. Now it's the Angel's turn, best scenes of the epi. He can't hit a single one. Ms Vikki tells him to focus and they will practise some. Well, truth be told, this game is not cut out for the Angel, he is like me, can't hit the broad side of a barn with that bowling ball, but he gives it a valiant try. He gets gutter balls, he chases the ball down the alley, he blows on the ball,every thing imaginable. So after all this tutoring so to speak, the Angel finally gets the ball to connect with the pins, Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy and a little Happy Dance ensues with some swinging and hugging and just about this time Nikki and Guzmi show up and are they eva shocked. Nikki calls her Mama's name. Vikki asks her honey bunny what she is doing here? Nikki didn't know her Mama was gonna be here much less with the Angel. Well, Ms Vikki is quick on her feet and tells her that she is teaching the Angel to play, as she is waiting for Josie and the Pussycat, er Doris to show up. Take that! Well Nikki is there to meet up with Georgie, Porgie Puddin' and Pie, er, the swim instructor and some of the gals, doncha know. What a coinkydink, so then Ms Vikki tells Nikki about the Angel's first strike. So they congrat Angel and Ms Vikki kinda invites them to join her and the Angel in some bowling. So Nikki and Guzmi agree and go to get the shoes. Nikki was sweating bullets, cause actually the two of them are on a REAL DATE, not the faux date of the other two. And Guzmi wonders if Ms Vikki bought the Georgie story, cause if not Nikki tells him she'd kill Nikki and fire Guzmi. Que Horror, but now all is not lost. So our other couple is pondering whether the young ones beleived the tale of Josie and the Pussycat, cause they actually bowl, lol. So they think they dodged a bullet too. We'll get back to our "couples".
PauToo and Gilda Have The Telephone to Gab:
So PauToo is calling Gilda and hopes she is home by now. Now I have to say here, that PauToo is actually lookin' better than she usually does. She needs to get rid of the black mascara and eyeliner, it makes her look older. She looks more natural this way, jus' sayin'. So Gilda has just come in her door, and picks up the phone to talk to the Pau. Gilda does have a life, she went to dinner with friends and then a movie. Well the Pau lays it on Gilda that Anyballs came to see her. Seems Pau is upset, about another secret of Anyballs, about Adri's daughter no less, can't tell Gilda bout that, no siree bob, she can't. It is another vile deed of his, now on her conscience. Who knew behind his pleasant facade is a deep digusting man, er, well you get the drift. Gilda informs her that Felipe met Anyballs, Que Horror!!!!!! Did Betty mention to Felipe this self same man is her ,er, lova??? Now come on Pau, if Felipe thought the P.I. was your lova, how is he gonna know it was really Anyballs, jus' sayin'. So Gilda tells her nah, not so much. Felipe made a good impression on Anyballs. So Gilda thinks it's a strange thing that Anyballs sticks up for Betty, not knowing the family connection, ya know her Mama is Pau, after all, and Pau tells her that Leo is a violent sonofabitch, er not that, but ya know , you get the drift. Leo is poisoning Guillo against Betty, he's contesting the divorce and who knows how much more he'll do!
A Date Comes To An End:
So Dances has escorted Betty to the door of her home. Betty thanks him and Dances says it's cause he wanted the night to last a bit longer, yeah right. He did cause he's in lurrrvvve. Betty warns him that she "ran" into him by accident on purpose, nah, by accident and that they need to keep a low profile, and Dances agrees, course he tells her he neva, eva, had a serious relationship with a woman, and he's glad now he is, cause now he has a reason to live for someone else and kisses ensue. Ahhhhhh, I don't like the hovering anvil, jus' sayin', but they are sooooo romantic.
Furry Fornicator Has a MAJOR EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTION and Does He Need the Little Blue Pill:
So Furry Fornicator hops out of Kendho's bed, all mad as hell, cause well, his, er, er, equipment malfunctioned, doncha know. Little Furry Fornicator wouldn't come out to play, shucks, y'all. This is the second time, doncha know. Kendho suggests he go see the doc, ya know for the little blue pills, er, ya know. Well, FF, just tells her to hush up already and that this is just, how shall we say this, hmmmm temporary???? Yeah, that's the ticket, while we in Viewerville howl and spew our Baileys, Cafecitos, er Tea, Beverage all over ourselves as we laugh so hard, it hurts. Oh, and more laughter ensues when Kendho blames herself for the equipment malfunction, cause, wait for it, she ain't attractive to him anymore. Well, that ain't it, he has Vikki on the mind and well, little FF can't function, with these thoughts. Well, Kendho takes this in stride and tells him she doesn't know what she is to him anymore. Well, FF tells her he doesn't want complaints cause he is thinkin' of Ms Vikki cause every year at midnight, he wishes her a Happy B-Day, so sad. He's lookin' teary, doncha know. Where's the cast iron skillet, long handled version???? Kendho mocks him and says yeah, sure she's all alone in that big mansion, feelin' sad and depressed, while she curls her lip in derision!
Back To The Bowling Alley Dates:
So now it is Team Angel and Vikki vs. Team Guzmi and Nikki and the A team has won!!!! Yeah!!!! Lots of claps and cheers. They all think it was great fun, too bad Josie and the Pussycat never showed, yeah same with Georgie and the girls too! So Nikki tells her Mama Happy Birthday, big hugs and smoochies from Nikki and Angel and Guzmi wish her the same. And then Nikki starts to sing Happy Birthday, (in Ingles of course) and Ms Vikki is loving this sort of impromptu kinda birthday celebration. Everyone at the bowling alley cheers and claps! Very happy people.
Are The Writers Trying to Make the Female Viewership Swoon or What, Jus' Sayin':
It's a new day in the Bodyguard Quarters and another gratituous nakkid, er semi-nakkid bodyguards. Guzmi is showering again, Angel is brushing his teeth and Dances is talking in his bathrobe to both guys. They all wanna know what they did last night. Dances is in a good mood, no sunglasses! So Dances is wantin' to know where the guys were last night, he came home and both were out, so it seems Angel had to "escort" Ms Vikki and Guzmi had to "escort" Nikki and what did Dances do? So Dances actually tells the truth, and says he went Salsa Dancing and by the way ran into your Sissy Betty. Ruh, Roh, actually ran into her or invited her out??? Guzmi is pithed. Dances assures Guzmi he aint' lyin cause he ain't got his sunglasses, er, he ain't lyin'. He tells Guzmi they only danced, she is a friend and Guzmi still ain't likin' it. Remember Guillo and Betty is married, as if Dances would forget. He tells Guzmi, Guillo doesn't like him now, but he wants to become a friend to him, and Guzmi is gettin' more pithed and wants Dances to respect Betty and wait till she's free. Dances knows that Guzmi isn't likin' him so much, cause Dances was a douche (Thanks Elvira) when he first got there, but hey, let by gones be bygones, he has the utmost respect for Betty they are friends, shake, Guzmi refuses to shake and Guzmi threatens Dances that if he hurts Betty, Guzmi will give him a knuckle sandwich, er, you get the drift and Angel has to get between the two men and remind them they are a team, si or no????
Betty Needs a Favor and Felipe Lets Her Down, Big Time:
Betty is gettin' ready for work, is telling Guillo to hurry up and tells Felipe she has an appointment this afternoon about her divorce and where is the money he was gonna give her for that??? Ruh, Roh! So he tries to tell her, he ain't got that money anymore, she surmises he gambled it away, which he did, Betty says well it's your money, but you are doing the same thing you did when Mama was around, gambling all the money away. Felipe doesn't want Betty mad at him, but Betty isn't mad, just sad he broke his promise about no more gambling.
Jean Marie and the Case of the Useless Eggs:
Jean Marie is whipping some eggs up in the kitchen, maybe for a frittata, or say a quiche, and Salsero is at the table waiting, and Jean Marie wants to know where Polita went, she's not there. She went out front somewhere, anyhoo, the phone rings and Jean Marie asks Salsero if he would get that while Jean Marie tends to the eggs, which Salsero graciously does. It is Cris lookin' for the Angel, isn't answering his cell and could Salsero put him on the phone. Well, sorry but the Angel is at the gas station putting gas in the SUV. Well, she'll call him back. As she likes he says, but hey, just a sec, she tells him she is lookin' for a job, of all things. Since the Angel is now "famous" and on the tv, she wants to show him that she too can progress a bit, so Salsero asks her what she can do, well she only finished the Prepa, has never worked, she ain't picky, but wants to do Something! So Salsero tells her he'll keep her in mind and she thanks him and Click! So Salsero is about to sit down again to wait for his breakfast when here comes the FF and he ain't happy and tells Salsero they gotta go, doncha know. No breakfast for Salsero and here is Jean Marie left with these whipped eggs. Note to Jean Marie: Take those lovely eggs and make some Creme Anglaise, jus' sayin'.
Breakfast in Bed:
Since it is Ms Vikki's B-Day Tomi brings Ms Vikki breakfast in bed. Tomi also tells her when the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars, then peace will guide the planet, er, the planets lined up and Ms Vikki was born, Happy B-Day, Tomi's the first to tell her that right? Meh, not so much, Angel was the one. Tomi is like he woke you up early, nah, he told her at midnight, he brought her a little cake, had her make a wish and blow out the candle. So Tomi thinks this water tiger is very thoughtful. Tomi informs Ms Vikki that FF asked her what to get Ms Vikki,and Ms Vikki says oh, FF thinks presents can fix anything, keep that thought, it comes back later. So Ms Vikki tells Tomi she won't believe where she and The Angel went and Tomi is having that hotel, er ya know thought, er no, they went BOWLING!!!! Tomi laughs and Polita comes in with some flowers for Ms Vikki. Polita wishes her many happy birthdays more and starts to sing Las Mananitas, but Ms Vikki thanks her, and she wants to know who sent the flowers, so Ms Vikki checks the card. They are from Adri her hermana. Polita thought they might have been from FF so Ms Vikki thanks her once again and she goes. The card reads Happy Birthday, Sister, And hope today and everyday after is wonderful, Love Adri. Awww. So now Ms Vikki wishes that Anyballs and Adri could bury the hatchet, good luck with that.
Guzmi is not good at Ingles:
Guzmi is makin' a call from Mexico as he tells the caller on the other end of the phone, who is in Las Vegas, and he's askin' for one Amber Luke. Seems Ms Luke isn't in and Guzmi wants to know when she'll be back. Well, Please tell her that called Francisco Guzman. Yeah he said it that way! So after Guzmi hangs up he says to the air, I will call her back and I'm gettin that divorce!
Nikki Has A Lovely Dream Involving Elvis, who knew!
Ok, so now Nikki is having this dream telling Guzman she saw his marriage certificate and he's married right???? Nah, Guzmi tells her he ain't married that marriage is void and Elvis has entered the building! Nikki says she doesn't beleive him, but Guzmi says, if you don't beleive me, ask him, that would be Elvis, he married him! Elvis does some gyrating and guitar playing and he's all shook up! So Nikki wakes up and thinks could this marriage in Vegas be a fake? Ya know, people do this all the time, hmmmm.
Furry Fornicator Gives a Present But It Ain't To His Dear Wife:
So Dances and Kendho are outside a building having a chat, while FF is inside. Salsero ruminates on the fact it's Ms Vikki's b-day but he's buyin' a present for Kendho, who knew!!! Well, Kendho has a good comeback line, doncha know, since Salsero is becomng a man with morals, she'll end up like, are you ready for this, wait for it. Mother Teresa of Calcutta, que horror!!!! So now Kendho reminds Salsero they have an agreement to help each other out, ya know, kidnapping, etc, and she needs some help now with Angel doncha know. Get him to make a move on Ms Vikki, ya know become her lova, her back door man, you get the drift, but Salsero isn't up with that. Angel is very faithful, would never do that to his wife. Kendho wants this cause then FF will be pithed and graviate toward Kendho of course. Kendho doesn't beleive that Angel and Ms Vikki, the cow, got nothin' goin on. Kendho seems to think they will end up in bed, sooner or later. Salsero tells Kendho she knows nothin' bout love cause when a man loves a woman, he ain't unfaithful and Angel is very faithful. Kendho thinks one day, Angel will get sick of his country bumpkin wifey pooh. Salsero doesn't think so, Cris is wanting to progress, she is lookin' for a job, doncha know and wants to be on the Angel's level. Well, here comes FF and Salsero wants to know where to next. Well, they are droppin' Kendho off at her place but first FF gives her the present and what a rock that is. Huge rock of a diamond, after all they are a girl's best friend. She hugs FF and passes that rock under Salsero's nose, while FF's back is turned.
And the Wrapup Party at Meta Imagen:
So Ms Vikki has come in and Gilda and Betty wish Ms Vikki the happiest of Birthdays, and Ms Vikki tells them Thank You but dont' be spreadin' it around. There is a gift from Anyballs waiting for her, and the Girlz swear their lips are sealed. Well seems the ratings are in from the commerical and it did quite well. So now there will be a cocktail party for the launching of the campaign for the Arno Suits and Ms Vikki tells Angel to call Cris and invite her to the cocktail party too, Cris should be there. Angel can't believe the numbers are so good and that he should invite Cris. Ms Vikki rightly tells the Angel that Cris should share in the Angel's success. So Angel makes the call.
PauToo and Cris Have a Convo:
So Pautoo is whining, what else is new, to Cris about only being a piano teacher to Nikki, and how cause of Ms Vikki, Anyballs has been hiding Pautoo for Twenty Years already! Pau swears she was about to tell Ms Vikki she was Anyball's lova all these years. Cris tells Pau to calm down, be Nikki's piano teacher and find a way back into Anyball's life a back way. So the phone rings and it's the Angel of course for Cris inviting her to the cocktail party later. Cris doesn't know what a cocktail party is, and Cris did mention she thought Salsero might have told him she called. No, but she needs to dress up for this party and she hasn't got a thing to wear. Well, Pau will help her.
Tomi is Mean to Jean Marie:
So poor exhausted Jean Marie has been up all night, preparing for this unplanned, last minute partay for Ms Vikki and politely asks Tomi if she'll get him a black coffee, not only won't she get it, she tells him to get it himself. Well, poor guy can't get a break, he's been up all night, sweating and baking and doing savory dishes, while Tomi and Polita slept. I swear I am gonna Chef jack him, jus' sayin' and give him a couple days off. Anyhoo, Polita comes in with some type of towel thingy and Guzmi comes in and Polita asks him where he was last night, and who was he with and Nikki comes in and says with me of course. Polita looks crushed. So Guzmi and Nikki go, they got an appointment it seems and while Nikki is at the "doctor's" Guzmi needs some personal time he'll be done by the time Nikki is. Nikki says its cool long as he is there to come get her.
The Taxi:
So Adri has taken a taxi to Doctor Montano's office and will be bearding him in that office about her daughter Lucia, as we end this epi.
Avances or Esta Lunes:
Guzmi finds out exactly who Nikki's "doctor" is and he's pithed!
Cris and Angel having a big smoochie, and Cris looks better than Kendho anyday, Ms Vikki ought to hire her, but Vikki sees this and is jealous, Ruh Roh! Tune in Lunes to find out what happens.
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Good Morning Y'all. I am behind this morning, so please comment while I bake up this hilarious recap.
So the FF had an equipment malfunction? I wondered what that was all about. Serves him right....
The bowling scenes were funny and delightful
, but there is no doubt both Balvanera women and their bodyguards have crossed a line into the NONprofessional area of their relationships, especially JA and Vikki.
I was hoping FF's surprise party for Vikki would have them all waiting for her while she's out bowling.
The bowling scenes were funny and delightful
, but there is no doubt both Balvanera women and their bodyguards have crossed a line into the NONprofessional area of their relationships, especially JA and Vikki.
I was hoping FF's surprise party for Vikki would have them all waiting for her while she's out bowling.
Looking forward to the recap! What an episode!
I've mentioned before on Caray—I am fascinated with attempts at English in telenovelas. Last night's ep gave us a particularly juicy example. I captured a clip of it (I have a nice collection now of TN clips with English) and it is divine! I'm not saying Sebastian Rulli was bad (certainly a thousand times better than my spoken Spanish!) but it was all undone by "Please tell her that called Francisco Guzman." No, sorry, but no. That isn't going to cut it!
Bless their hearts. It was adorable.
I'd love to hear Big Angel speak English. As many of you probably know, he's done a number of English-language shows and he's great!
I've mentioned before on Caray—I am fascinated with attempts at English in telenovelas. Last night's ep gave us a particularly juicy example. I captured a clip of it (I have a nice collection now of TN clips with English) and it is divine! I'm not saying Sebastian Rulli was bad (certainly a thousand times better than my spoken Spanish!) but it was all undone by "Please tell her that called Francisco Guzman." No, sorry, but no. That isn't going to cut it!
Bless their hearts. It was adorable.
I'd love to hear Big Angel speak English. As many of you probably know, he's done a number of English-language shows and he's great!
NM - "blind date" indeed . LOL
Elvira- I caught that little Spanglish slip also. I figured it was the writers, if Rulli doesn't know enough English to fix it.
Elvira- I caught that little Spanglish slip also. I figured it was the writers, if Rulli doesn't know enough English to fix it.
Anita President and CEO of Meta*Mart Corp.
While watching last night's episode
of Amores Verdaderos, I got an idea for a new KendHo lingerie and sleepwear fashion line marketed exclusively by the Meta*Mart Corp.
Of course you would have to hire KendHo as the head designer for the new line which would bare her name and she won't come cheap but I think that the new fashion line would be a huge success.
The marketing department could create a modernistic picture of KendHo like the one in her apartment with the caption KendHo Originals.
I know that Valentines Day has already past but if you jump on it, the new line could be in Meta*Mart in time for the spring roll out. Your thoughts.
the gringo
While watching last night's episode
of Amores Verdaderos, I got an idea for a new KendHo lingerie and sleepwear fashion line marketed exclusively by the Meta*Mart Corp.
Of course you would have to hire KendHo as the head designer for the new line which would bare her name and she won't come cheap but I think that the new fashion line would be a huge success.
The marketing department could create a modernistic picture of KendHo like the one in her apartment with the caption KendHo Originals.
I know that Valentines Day has already past but if you jump on it, the new line could be in Meta*Mart in time for the spring roll out. Your thoughts.
the gringo
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: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 1:19:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 1:19:00 PM EST
Elvira:
If you look closely at the credits at the end, you will see the following disclaimer on every Televisa show:
No gringos were harmed -- or consulted -- in the filming of this telenovela
But seriously folks ... I also noticed and took delight in Rulli's earnest reading of the line.
"Please tell her that called Francisco Guzman."
Do you really have a collection? Maybe one of these days you'll feel like sharing it with us???
If you look closely at the credits at the end, you will see the following disclaimer on every Televisa show:
No gringos were harmed -- or consulted -- in the filming of this telenovela
But seriously folks ... I also noticed and took delight in Rulli's earnest reading of the line.
"Please tell her that called Francisco Guzman."
Do you really have a collection? Maybe one of these days you'll feel like sharing it with us???
Madelaine always delivers a fully baked recap with whipped cream filling and icing on top. 'Cmon girl, we're hungry!!
doris--
The bowling party is actually taking place in the weeee hours of the morning of her birthday. Big A arrives with his cake & candle. Vick remarked that he was the first one to wish her happy birthday on her day, while usually it was FF. So it must have been midnight or a few minutes after. Nik & Gus were in their nighties already.
These folks must use a different clock to measure time. Different diurnal cycles? JM can't get breakfast served until 10am?
gringo--
Hmmm, the KendHo-designed line sounds tempting. However, we have to be careful or they'll change our ratings to NC-17 or XXX-adult only. Meta*Mart is a family-oriented marketplace.
>>the new line which would bare her name and she won't come cheap.
Lovely Freudian Slip. I'm afraid she'd be baring more than her name in some of this lingerie. Wait, we could carry a full line of Freudian Slips, no? Half slips, full slips.
doris--
The bowling party is actually taking place in the weeee hours of the morning of her birthday. Big A arrives with his cake & candle. Vick remarked that he was the first one to wish her happy birthday on her day, while usually it was FF. So it must have been midnight or a few minutes after. Nik & Gus were in their nighties already.
These folks must use a different clock to measure time. Different diurnal cycles? JM can't get breakfast served until 10am?
gringo--
Hmmm, the KendHo-designed line sounds tempting. However, we have to be careful or they'll change our ratings to NC-17 or XXX-adult only. Meta*Mart is a family-oriented marketplace.
>>the new line which would bare her name and she won't come cheap.
Lovely Freudian Slip. I'm afraid she'd be baring more than her name in some of this lingerie. Wait, we could carry a full line of Freudian Slips, no? Half slips, full slips.
oh, doris--seems to me there was an earlier FF malfunction. Help me out somebody. What excuse did he use? Or am I thinking of the sadly departed Alonslow.
Hi all! I just read the last three days of recaps and comments (most of them), getting caught up since I haven't been able to watch. I wanted to add that "zacate" is also the word for loofa, at least it is the fiber itself in its raw state and is used like a loofa pad. So chewing on that wouldn't be too pleasant.
I also noticed about Guzman's English. "No gringos harmed or consulted" - hilarious!
The bowling scene was very fun to watch, if you don't think about all the levels on which it is so wrong for all the parties. I also thought maybe FF and Kendra would show up...
TN4ever
I also noticed about Guzman's English. "No gringos harmed or consulted" - hilarious!
The bowling scene was very fun to watch, if you don't think about all the levels on which it is so wrong for all the parties. I also thought maybe FF and Kendra would show up...
TN4ever
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 4:04:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 4:04:00 PM EST
Hey y'all I am almost done. Sorry it is taking so long. I did the Por Ella recap first, cause I wanted to get all nuances for this one. Please keep commenting and will have the recap up shortly.
Anita:
I'm concerned about the propriety of Freudian slips: as you know they can be very revealing.
Yes the Furry one has has a malfunction once before. He affected amazement -- it had NEVER, EVER happened to him. Was it after the painting? The pelirroja incident? I can't recall. But if it happens again, he may well earn himself a third "F" for FAILED.
TN4ever
"The bowling scene was very fun to watch, if you don't think about all the levels on which it is so wrong for all the parties"
Yes! Exactly! I just watched it with a big smile on my face. (I was afraid the rented shoes might be a problem but nobody blinked an eye!)
I'm concerned about the propriety of Freudian slips: as you know they can be very revealing.
Yes the Furry one has has a malfunction once before. He affected amazement -- it had NEVER, EVER happened to him. Was it after the painting? The pelirroja incident? I can't recall. But if it happens again, he may well earn himself a third "F" for FAILED.
TN4ever
"The bowling scene was very fun to watch, if you don't think about all the levels on which it is so wrong for all the parties"
Yes! Exactly! I just watched it with a big smile on my face. (I was afraid the rented shoes might be a problem but nobody blinked an eye!)
I'm going to take a second to tell you lovely ladies and guys how awesome I think you are, your comments and recaps always bring on the LOL's!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 4:19:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 4:19:00 PM EST
NM - I think we would call it the FF's Epic Fail.
Yay! My computer only cost $50 to fix so I can spend my money on more tee shirts at the MetaMart. WooHoooo!
Speaking of which.... I noticed, a day or two ago, that Nikki is a "Woooo!" girl. An entire epioside was dedicated to that on HIMYM a few seasons ago. ref:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1256190/synopsis
I hesitate for us to open a 'Frederick's of KendHo' department for lingerie. After that last episode a week or two ago, when she was prancing around the FF in her thong, Mr. doris. walked into the room and asked if I was watching p o r n. Gah.
(I spaced those out in hopes that people googling such won't land here.)
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The bowling scene was very fun to watch, if you don't think about all the levels on which it is so wrong for all the parties."
TN4ever - best comment yet!
Yay! My computer only cost $50 to fix so I can spend my money on more tee shirts at the MetaMart. WooHoooo!
Speaking of which.... I noticed, a day or two ago, that Nikki is a "Woooo!" girl. An entire epioside was dedicated to that on HIMYM a few seasons ago. ref:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1256190/synopsis
I hesitate for us to open a 'Frederick's of KendHo' department for lingerie. After that last episode a week or two ago, when she was prancing around the FF in her thong, Mr. doris. walked into the room and asked if I was watching p o r n. Gah.
(I spaced those out in hopes that people googling such won't land here.)
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The bowling scene was very fun to watch, if you don't think about all the levels on which it is so wrong for all the parties."
TN4ever - best comment yet!
Oooo and also I think we now know why Guzman and his wife are no longer together; his bad English made it impossible for them to communicate.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 6:06:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 6:06:00 PM EST
"Oooo and also I think we now know why Guzman and his wife are no longer together; his bad English made it impossible for them to communicate."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ellie:
If that's the case, then AMBER LUKE has no imagination and she is clearly NOT GOOD ENOUGH for Frankie.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Ellie:
If that's the case, then AMBER LUKE has no imagination and she is clearly NOT GOOD ENOUGH for Frankie.
Ellie,
"Oooo and also I think we now know why Guzman and his wife are no longer together; his bad English made it impossible for them to communicate."
And yet had she been a Valley Girl...
Carlos
"Oooo and also I think we now know why Guzman and his wife are no longer together; his bad English made it impossible for them to communicate."
And yet had she been a Valley Girl...
Carlos
Wow...what an odd turn of events..Gidget, Moondoggie, Annette, and Frankie all meet up at the bowl-a-rama in their rented shoes [ewwww]. Hub and I used to go to the bowling alley on dates occasionally until I dropped the bowling ball behind me. Will we see scenes of doulble dates at the malt shoppe in the future ? ...the drive-in ??? Every time I see Sunglasses, I have this nagging feeling that he reminds me of someone. At first, I thought that he was channeling The Beatles, but now I realize that he looks like a hefty Spock sans pointy ears. He surely is smitten with the lovely, buzzy Bee, isn't he ?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 7:35:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 7:35:00 PM EST
Madelaine---I loved your recap from beginning to end. Last night was a hoot and you did it perfectly
I must say though that I nearly laughed my head off at your Josie and the Pussycat line. I'm still laughing.
susanlynn---Gidget, Moondoggie, Annette and Frankie all meat up at the bowl-a -rama. This one had me laughing also. The Caray Cary bunch are the best ever.
Anita---I hadn't thought about the possible XXX rating for the new KendHO lingerie and sleepwear fashion line. Giving it a second thought, the censors might come down pretty hard on Meta*Mart unless we had a special license for such sales. Too bad, it could have been a money maker.
the gringo
I must say though that I nearly laughed my head off at your Josie and the Pussycat line. I'm still laughing.
susanlynn---Gidget, Moondoggie, Annette and Frankie all meat up at the bowl-a -rama. This one had me laughing also. The Caray Cary bunch are the best ever.
Anita---I hadn't thought about the possible XXX rating for the new KendHO lingerie and sleepwear fashion line. Giving it a second thought, the censors might come down pretty hard on Meta*Mart unless we had a special license for such sales. Too bad, it could have been a money maker.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 11:13:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 11:13:00 PM EST
Absolutely loved the recap.
Enjoyed the bowling alley scene very much and Guzmanicito looked so handsome in his outfit.
Guzmancito's voice sounded so different when he spoke Englsih, I thought it was adorable. I'm assuming by the way he sounded that he doesn't speak much English in reality.
Can't wait for Monday!
Thanks!
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
Enjoyed the bowling alley scene very much and Guzmanicito looked so handsome in his outfit.
Guzmancito's voice sounded so different when he spoke Englsih, I thought it was adorable. I'm assuming by the way he sounded that he doesn't speak much English in reality.
Can't wait for Monday!
Thanks!
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 11:27:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 16, 2013 at 11:27:00 PM EST
Madelaine - Thanks for all the fun. Some of my favorites:
"Wait, while I oogle, and I'll tell you..."
"Yes, we have contact..."
"Her name was Lola, she was a show girl"
Well, Dances finally answered Viewerville's question. Nope, he never killed anyone. Hope he doesn't join in again with KendHo to break up Arriaga's marriage. But then Arriaga's doing a fine job of that all by himself.
Who knew Nikki would be willing to put on icky rental shoes?
Guzman's "called Franciso" was so cute. Elvira, I too hope we get to hear JA in English.
FF's last malfunction was the night Nikki got rescued from the kidnappers. FF does have feelings for Vickie cause he can't boink KendaHo on special days, like Nikki's return and Vickie's birthday. He probably should not try boinking KendHo on Easter.
"Wait, while I oogle, and I'll tell you..."
"Yes, we have contact..."
"Her name was Lola, she was a show girl"
Well, Dances finally answered Viewerville's question. Nope, he never killed anyone. Hope he doesn't join in again with KendHo to break up Arriaga's marriage. But then Arriaga's doing a fine job of that all by himself.
Who knew Nikki would be willing to put on icky rental shoes?
Guzman's "called Franciso" was so cute. Elvira, I too hope we get to hear JA in English.
FF's last malfunction was the night Nikki got rescued from the kidnappers. FF does have feelings for Vickie cause he can't boink KendaHo on special days, like Nikki's return and Vickie's birthday. He probably should not try boinking KendHo on Easter.
Eduardo Yanez [JA] speaks English well. Didn't he live and work in the U.S. for awhile ? I saw him on American TV before I found him in Destilando Amor. He played a bodyguard in Striptease , and he was in a Dr.Quinn TV movie among other roles. I missed something. Why does KendrHO want to break up JA's marriage. Also, is there any mujer on this show who DOESN'T want to break up his marriage and take him.....ahhh....bowling ?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 9:15:00 AM EST
: Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 9:15:00 AM EST
Thanks so much Mads. Your recap was just as fun as the episode.
I'm glad that everyone accepted everyone else's lies and decided to just go with the moment and have fun bowling. That was a really cute sequence of scenes. Love that the writers gave us a laugh with FF's malfunction with Kendra, and Kendra saying that Vicky was likely all alone and sad at home, while we all knew she was having a ball with Nicky, JA, and Guzman.
I also laughed at that sentence structure goof Guzman made (come on writers!). But I thought his accent was rather good.
I enjoyed all the sweet kisses between Bea and Salsero, but like you Mads, couldn't help but think of the anvils that surely await this couple. Until he frees himself of Kendra (which won't happen anytime soon since she can hold their past partneship over his head), he's never going to be the man Bea deserves.
Susanlynn- Kendra wants to break up JA's marriage, so that he can become Vicky's lover, so that FFF can find out and want to divorce Vicky, so that he'll then want to marry her (Kendra). Captas? Yeah, it's kind of a lame, roundabout plan for getting her desired result, but so are all the plans of the villains in this tn.
Welcome Texas! I don't think I've seen you comments before, but hope you continue to do so.
I'm glad that everyone accepted everyone else's lies and decided to just go with the moment and have fun bowling. That was a really cute sequence of scenes. Love that the writers gave us a laugh with FF's malfunction with Kendra, and Kendra saying that Vicky was likely all alone and sad at home, while we all knew she was having a ball with Nicky, JA, and Guzman.
I also laughed at that sentence structure goof Guzman made (come on writers!). But I thought his accent was rather good.
I enjoyed all the sweet kisses between Bea and Salsero, but like you Mads, couldn't help but think of the anvils that surely await this couple. Until he frees himself of Kendra (which won't happen anytime soon since she can hold their past partneship over his head), he's never going to be the man Bea deserves.
Susanlynn- Kendra wants to break up JA's marriage, so that he can become Vicky's lover, so that FFF can find out and want to divorce Vicky, so that he'll then want to marry her (Kendra). Captas? Yeah, it's kind of a lame, roundabout plan for getting her desired result, but so are all the plans of the villains in this tn.
Welcome Texas! I don't think I've seen you comments before, but hope you continue to do so.
Good Morning Y'all and thanks for all the great comments.
Doris: I too thought FF would be waiting with everyone while Ms Vikki went bowling, lol.
NovelaMaven: I lol'd at your diary entry : )Also liked your no gringos were harmed.... that was a hoot, I'm still laughing.
Elvira: I lol'd when Guzmi was speaking English, but I think he speaks English way better than he spoke his line. Most of these TN stars live in the U.S. and I imagine they speak perfect English.
Gringo: lol'd about your idea for the lingere from Meta Mart, but I have to agree with Anita, I think they would change Meta Marts Ratings.
Anita: Love all the merchandise that Meta Mart is carrying. I agree about the Lingere. There is the Ramera wear though, right ; )Anita also liked your line about my baking, lol.
TN4ever: Wouldn't that have been a hoot about Kendho and FF showing up to bowl. ; ) Then maybe the Angel could have taken FF and done a gutter ball with him, lol.
Doris: I saw that epi of the Woo Girl, thanks for the link. Nikki is a bit like that, isn't she, lol.
Doris: I too thought FF would be waiting with everyone while Ms Vikki went bowling, lol.
NovelaMaven: I lol'd at your diary entry : )Also liked your no gringos were harmed.... that was a hoot, I'm still laughing.
Elvira: I lol'd when Guzmi was speaking English, but I think he speaks English way better than he spoke his line. Most of these TN stars live in the U.S. and I imagine they speak perfect English.
Gringo: lol'd about your idea for the lingere from Meta Mart, but I have to agree with Anita, I think they would change Meta Marts Ratings.
Anita: Love all the merchandise that Meta Mart is carrying. I agree about the Lingere. There is the Ramera wear though, right ; )Anita also liked your line about my baking, lol.
TN4ever: Wouldn't that have been a hoot about Kendho and FF showing up to bowl. ; ) Then maybe the Angel could have taken FF and done a gutter ball with him, lol.
Doris: I saw that epi of the Woo Girl, thanks for the link. Nikki is a bit like that, isn't she, lol.
Ellie:
"Oooo and also I think we now know why Guzman and his wife are no longer together; his bad English made it impossible for them to communicate."
Oh Gawd, this is soooo hilarious! :DDD
"Eduardo Yanez [JA] speaks English well. Didn't he live and work in the U.S. for awhile?"
Yes, EY's been living in the U.S. for twenty years. He became an American citizen last year. It seems most actors (who can afford it) prefer living in Los Angeles or Miami when they are not working.
The big guy has a thick Spanish accent, but aside from that his English sounds good enough. My accent is definitely worse.
creepy torturer in CSI Miami
red carpet interview
***
Today I turned 30 years old, blerch. And instead of going to bowling with Guzmi and Arri, I'm trying to find out how my shiny new tablet works. :)
I didn't have much free time this week, but I'm going to read the last four recaps soon. I already read the comments, they are fantastic. I love this AV team completamente.
"Oooo and also I think we now know why Guzman and his wife are no longer together; his bad English made it impossible for them to communicate."
Oh Gawd, this is soooo hilarious! :DDD
"Eduardo Yanez [JA] speaks English well. Didn't he live and work in the U.S. for awhile?"
Yes, EY's been living in the U.S. for twenty years. He became an American citizen last year. It seems most actors (who can afford it) prefer living in Los Angeles or Miami when they are not working.
The big guy has a thick Spanish accent, but aside from that his English sounds good enough. My accent is definitely worse.
creepy torturer in CSI Miami
red carpet interview
***
Today I turned 30 years old, blerch. And instead of going to bowling with Guzmi and Arri, I'm trying to find out how my shiny new tablet works. :)
I didn't have much free time this week, but I'm going to read the last four recaps soon. I already read the comments, they are fantastic. I love this AV team completamente.
Ellie: Welcome to this "dramedy" of a TN. Most parts are so funny, while others we drown in PauToo's tears, but mostly it is so funny. Please comment often.I was laughing so hard at your line about Guzmi and his wife Amber not being able to communicate : )
Carlos: I had to laugh at your Valley Girl line. What a combo that would be grody to the max, tubular, gnarly, gag me with a spoon, lol.
Susanlynn: Also liked your Moondoggie reference loved Gidget Goes Hawaiin, lol. Aribeth called DAnces, Spock too, lol. Dances is way smitten with the buzzy Bea.
Gringo: I like Josie and the Pussycats and Josie, Doris and Ms Vikkie reminds me of them, lol.
Texas: Welcome to this TN. Guzmi did look fab in that outfit didn't he? And he is always so good to Nikki. I admire him for putting up with her, but they are too cute together. Please come back and comment again.
Neice: When I heard Showgirl when Dances was talking about his Mama I immediately thought of Barry Manilow, lol. I love that song Copacabana! I just had to include that, lol. And those "bare" bodyguards, lol. If the writers keep this up, the women of Viewerville will be constantly swooning, lol.
Carlos: I had to laugh at your Valley Girl line. What a combo that would be grody to the max, tubular, gnarly, gag me with a spoon, lol.
Susanlynn: Also liked your Moondoggie reference loved Gidget Goes Hawaiin, lol. Aribeth called DAnces, Spock too, lol. Dances is way smitten with the buzzy Bea.
Gringo: I like Josie and the Pussycats and Josie, Doris and Ms Vikkie reminds me of them, lol.
Texas: Welcome to this TN. Guzmi did look fab in that outfit didn't he? And he is always so good to Nikki. I admire him for putting up with her, but they are too cute together. Please come back and comment again.
Neice: When I heard Showgirl when Dances was talking about his Mama I immediately thought of Barry Manilow, lol. I love that song Copacabana! I just had to include that, lol. And those "bare" bodyguards, lol. If the writers keep this up, the women of Viewerville will be constantly swooning, lol.
Aribeth: Happy, Happy Birthday!!!!Hope you figure out how to use your tablet, and thanks so much for the links. This TN is so unexpected with the comedy and the tears, very unusual but I think that is why we love it so much : ) Agree with you too about the TN stars living in LA or Miami. As a matter of fact, Eduardo Yanez was in an epi of NCIS Los Angeles where he played a Venezuelan dicator who spoke perfect English. I agree with you about our recapping team, we all bring the snark as much as we can : )Enjoy your Birthday!!!!
Vivi: I agree with you about Salsero needing to cut the ties to Kendho. I'm beginning to wonder if he is only going to get his "enemey" closer to see what exactly she will be up too. He hasn't helped her lately and I think that is a great thing. I think if Kendho were to try anything new, he'd stop her.
Vivi: I agree with you about Salsero needing to cut the ties to Kendho. I'm beginning to wonder if he is only going to get his "enemey" closer to see what exactly she will be up too. He hasn't helped her lately and I think that is a great thing. I think if Kendho were to try anything new, he'd stop her.
Madelaine:
I just read your delicious recap -- what a hoot! You did justice to the wonderful episode. [I can't decide which episode I loved more -- this one -- "The one where everyone goes bowling" or the earlier one: "The one where Arriaga and Vikki get their dancin' on behind a screen in the Hotel Room"]
It's hard to choose among so many gems but among my favorites:
"The Godfather" So perfect. That is Antonio's name from now on!
I giggled over your Age of Aquarius reference ("...when the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars")
Happy birthday, Aribeth!
I just read your delicious recap -- what a hoot! You did justice to the wonderful episode. [I can't decide which episode I loved more -- this one -- "The one where everyone goes bowling" or the earlier one: "The one where Arriaga and Vikki get their dancin' on behind a screen in the Hotel Room"]
It's hard to choose among so many gems but among my favorites:
"The Godfather" So perfect. That is Antonio's name from now on!
I giggled over your Age of Aquarius reference ("...when the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars")
Happy birthday, Aribeth!
Fabulous recap, Madeline! It was quite the episode, wasn't it? Wow!
NM, I have posted a few of my "treasures" (English in novelas) on YouTube, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkLccCzKyWQ.
My favorite is the one from La Fuerza del Destino. Nobody in that scene has any clue what they're saying, I don't think! LOL. Bless them. I would not do nearly as good in Spanish.
It's possible that these actors do speak and understand English, but the pressure of trying to pronounce things better might make them sound stilted. But from the sounds of it, David Zepeda and Sebastian Rulli don't speak English hardly at all.
Big Ed (Eduado Yanez) has a charming accent, but it's obvious from his performances in English-speaking TV that he does understand what he's saying. I don't mind an accent, I expect one! His is lovely and not difficult to understand at all.
To be completely devoid of an accent to me is rare and I'd never expect it of someone else and I'm not deluding myself that I'll ever not have a gringo accent. (Though of course I'll try to study so it isn't too dire!)
I'd prefer listening to someone with a thicker accent, but who sounds like they know what they're saying, over a "perfect" accent that is stilted and awkward. (Not that I'm accusing any actor here of anything!) I'm just rambling.
I have some more "English in TN" clips that I've compiled since I made that video on YT, and I know there are some nice examples of TNs that are coming up (Que Bonito Amor for one) so I'll probably prepare another "collection" of clips pretty soon.
NM, I have posted a few of my "treasures" (English in novelas) on YouTube, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkLccCzKyWQ.
My favorite is the one from La Fuerza del Destino. Nobody in that scene has any clue what they're saying, I don't think! LOL. Bless them. I would not do nearly as good in Spanish.
It's possible that these actors do speak and understand English, but the pressure of trying to pronounce things better might make them sound stilted. But from the sounds of it, David Zepeda and Sebastian Rulli don't speak English hardly at all.
Big Ed (Eduado Yanez) has a charming accent, but it's obvious from his performances in English-speaking TV that he does understand what he's saying. I don't mind an accent, I expect one! His is lovely and not difficult to understand at all.
To be completely devoid of an accent to me is rare and I'd never expect it of someone else and I'm not deluding myself that I'll ever not have a gringo accent. (Though of course I'll try to study so it isn't too dire!)
I'd prefer listening to someone with a thicker accent, but who sounds like they know what they're saying, over a "perfect" accent that is stilted and awkward. (Not that I'm accusing any actor here of anything!) I'm just rambling.
I have some more "English in TN" clips that I've compiled since I made that video on YT, and I know there are some nice examples of TNs that are coming up (Que Bonito Amor for one) so I'll probably prepare another "collection" of clips pretty soon.
Madelaine, the recap is excellent. Thanks.
I especially enjoyed the bowling night. The genuine affection displayed between mother and daughter was so refreshing and felt so good.
NovelaMaven,
"I was afraid the rented shoes might be a problem but nobody blinked an eye!"
and Niece,
"Who knew Nikki would be willing to put on icky rental shoes?"
Yet more evidence of what a magical night it was. Instead of glass slippers...stinky rental bowling shoes for everyone.
Susanlynn, did you wear thick socks or were you one of those rich kids who had her own shoes and ball?
Carlos
I especially enjoyed the bowling night. The genuine affection displayed between mother and daughter was so refreshing and felt so good.
NovelaMaven,
"I was afraid the rented shoes might be a problem but nobody blinked an eye!"
and Niece,
"Who knew Nikki would be willing to put on icky rental shoes?"
Yet more evidence of what a magical night it was. Instead of glass slippers...stinky rental bowling shoes for everyone.
Susanlynn, did you wear thick socks or were you one of those rich kids who had her own shoes and ball?
Carlos
Terrific recap, Madelaine, I'm still giggling, no, actually guffawing.
Susanlynn--Vivi didn't give you the rest of the plot. KenHo doesn't care a fig about FF (nor a fig leaf). You can tell by the look on her face sometimes. Her goal is FF's money and to lead a life of indolent over-consumption. Odiette fits in somewhere--I think she supplies the money for the escapades.
Seems to me Kendra didn't do her homework or she'd know FF has NO wealth or truly no power of his own that he didn't get through Anyballs and Miss Vicky. That's why they tried so hard at first to kill Miss Vicky then tried kidnapping for money. FF would inherit and with Miss V out of the way, she'd marry him and Odiette would have her revenge on Anyballs.
Since I didn't come in at the beginning, I don't know how Salsero got involved with her, but he didn't shy away from doing the horizontal tango--but he never took her dancing, which is way sexier. I sure enjoyed watching his moves in those white slacks.
About Guzman's grammatical slip. First I thought maybe he was just being cute and imitating JM with the Guzman, Francisco. When I put a comma between called and Francisco, it didn't make sense. Then it dawned on me. The script was for him to say, "Please tell her Francisco Guzman called," but he muffed it, transposed it and they just left it in. Wonder how many takes it took!
Ditto on the Happy Birthdays to you Aribeth--you and Miss Vicky should go bowling tonight.
Susanlynn--Vivi didn't give you the rest of the plot. KenHo doesn't care a fig about FF (nor a fig leaf). You can tell by the look on her face sometimes. Her goal is FF's money and to lead a life of indolent over-consumption. Odiette fits in somewhere--I think she supplies the money for the escapades.
Seems to me Kendra didn't do her homework or she'd know FF has NO wealth or truly no power of his own that he didn't get through Anyballs and Miss Vicky. That's why they tried so hard at first to kill Miss Vicky then tried kidnapping for money. FF would inherit and with Miss V out of the way, she'd marry him and Odiette would have her revenge on Anyballs.
Since I didn't come in at the beginning, I don't know how Salsero got involved with her, but he didn't shy away from doing the horizontal tango--but he never took her dancing, which is way sexier. I sure enjoyed watching his moves in those white slacks.
About Guzman's grammatical slip. First I thought maybe he was just being cute and imitating JM with the Guzman, Francisco. When I put a comma between called and Francisco, it didn't make sense. Then it dawned on me. The script was for him to say, "Please tell her Francisco Guzman called," but he muffed it, transposed it and they just left it in. Wonder how many takes it took!
Ditto on the Happy Birthdays to you Aribeth--you and Miss Vicky should go bowling tonight.
Anita- I think someone wrote the line in Spanish and then translated it exactly--- "...que llamo Francisco Guzman."
NovelaMaven: As soon as Tomi mentioned planets aligning that song just popped into my head, lol.I love the Three Dimension.
Elvira: Thanks so much for the great English clips from TN's. Please do more and send the link here. I acutually saw those scenes from UFCS and La Fureza. That secretary from LFDD was so not a native English speaker, lol. My favorite English/Spanglish scenes were from El Tal with Tracy and here with Nikki.I do agree about EY love his accent and he does seem to understand what he is saying. The best accents I think are with the Mexican singers. They seem to have just a trace of the Spanish accent when they speak English, it's amazing.
Carlos: Loved your reference to the magical night and the icky bowling shoes, lol. Maybe Meta Mart can carry them, the bowling shoes that is, soon, lol.
Anita: Kendho was a ho involved with some bad men, when Salsero rescued her from the "life" and that is how Salsero got involved with Kendho. He mentioned this in the beginning of this TN. Now I bet he is sorry he did that, from all the trouble she has caused him already. Your right about her motivation too. All she wants is money, nothing else really from the FF. She'll do anything to get it and you were right about her in the beginning trying to kill Ms Vikki off so FF inherits, but he wouldn't get anything, not if Anyballs has any say. FF only has a 20% share of stocks in Meta Imagen. Also about Odio, she wants revenge on Anyballs, cause she tried to seduce him back in the day, and so now she is seeking revenge thru Ms Vikki, cause she is the apple of Anyball's eyes.
Elvira: Thanks so much for the great English clips from TN's. Please do more and send the link here. I acutually saw those scenes from UFCS and La Fureza. That secretary from LFDD was so not a native English speaker, lol. My favorite English/Spanglish scenes were from El Tal with Tracy and here with Nikki.I do agree about EY love his accent and he does seem to understand what he is saying. The best accents I think are with the Mexican singers. They seem to have just a trace of the Spanish accent when they speak English, it's amazing.
Carlos: Loved your reference to the magical night and the icky bowling shoes, lol. Maybe Meta Mart can carry them, the bowling shoes that is, soon, lol.
Anita: Kendho was a ho involved with some bad men, when Salsero rescued her from the "life" and that is how Salsero got involved with Kendho. He mentioned this in the beginning of this TN. Now I bet he is sorry he did that, from all the trouble she has caused him already. Your right about her motivation too. All she wants is money, nothing else really from the FF. She'll do anything to get it and you were right about her in the beginning trying to kill Ms Vikki off so FF inherits, but he wouldn't get anything, not if Anyballs has any say. FF only has a 20% share of stocks in Meta Imagen. Also about Odio, she wants revenge on Anyballs, cause she tried to seduce him back in the day, and so now she is seeking revenge thru Ms Vikki, cause she is the apple of Anyball's eyes.
Oh, I made a mistake about the Odious one. Odiodette and Anyballs actually had an affair and he dumped her and took her best clients and that is why she is hell bent on revenge.
" Never knew who his Daddy was and his Mama did every thing she could to get rid of Dances while in the womb, evidently."
When earlier in the show he told Nelson that his beloved mom had suffered a stroke (as an excuse to be away for a while), I cringed at the possible karma or irony to which he was exposing his mother. Now I see why that might not have bothered him quite so much.
Carlos
When earlier in the show he told Nelson that his beloved mom had suffered a stroke (as an excuse to be away for a while), I cringed at the possible karma or irony to which he was exposing his mother. Now I see why that might not have bothered him quite so much.
Carlos
Carlos: Good catch about Salsero's Mama and the stroke. I had forgotten about that. Now we know why he kinda dissed her like that. Even though Salsero has never mentioned it, I wonder if he has any family at all? That would be very interesting if he did.
Elvira:
Your video is pure gold! Thank you -- you are my Technology Goddess! (If it weren't for the Quill™ App that Mr. Maven and I use on our computers, I wouldn't be on this blog at all.)
Your video is pure gold! Thank you -- you are my Technology Goddess! (If it weren't for the Quill™ App that Mr. Maven and I use on our computers, I wouldn't be on this blog at all.)
Madelaine, thanks for a marvelous recap. I loved the headings.
Thanks for the clips, Elvira. I hope we see more in the future. :-)
Thanks for the clips, Elvira. I hope we see more in the future. :-)
Hi, Everyone,
I am back once again to see what your thoughts are regarding Jean Marie's comment that he had been working all night "como negro."
Looking it up in Spanish Dictionary.com, I read that it meant like a black person or like a slave. I am surprised that this racist language would be permitted in a telenovela in this day and age. Have any of you
heard this type of language in other novelas?
Thanks for thinking about this.
I am back once again to see what your thoughts are regarding Jean Marie's comment that he had been working all night "como negro."
Looking it up in Spanish Dictionary.com, I read that it meant like a black person or like a slave. I am surprised that this racist language would be permitted in a telenovela in this day and age. Have any of you
heard this type of language in other novelas?
Thanks for thinking about this.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 3:19:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 3:19:00 PM EST
Clara Fying- Thanks for bringing it up. Yes, I did a double take when he said it, and I knew exactly what he meant. Yes, what we in the States consider racist language is used often in tns. The funny/odd thing is that when the tns are brought to the U.S. the networks go out of their way to bleep/blur things they consider might be offensive to the U.S. audience. This usually includes sex, nudity, curse words, body function words and sounds, and slurs against gay people.
But rascist slurs are left in. This was the latest case, but there were two recent ones that I saw. 1) In the tn that was on during the day recently-- Amorcito Corazon-- the was a Chinese character. The villainess constantly insulted him with racist language (some of it was bleeped) and the writers had everyone else saying a doing racist things regarding him; and 2) In Amor Bravio, one of the characters in a rage called his family's servant an "india ladina." They didn't bleep the insult, but the looks on the actors'/characters' faces showed what an extreme insult this was. I was ok with leaving this in, because the writers showed how horrible it was. But there is no excuse for them leaving in what Jean Marie said and not even batting an eyelash at it.
But rascist slurs are left in. This was the latest case, but there were two recent ones that I saw. 1) In the tn that was on during the day recently-- Amorcito Corazon-- the was a Chinese character. The villainess constantly insulted him with racist language (some of it was bleeped) and the writers had everyone else saying a doing racist things regarding him; and 2) In Amor Bravio, one of the characters in a rage called his family's servant an "india ladina." They didn't bleep the insult, but the looks on the actors'/characters' faces showed what an extreme insult this was. I was ok with leaving this in, because the writers showed how horrible it was. But there is no excuse for them leaving in what Jean Marie said and not even batting an eyelash at it.
I just turned on the tv and see that in a few minutes on PBS there will be a program called "Black in Latin America." How timely. I think I'll watch.
My 2 centavos. I have a dear friend, a native Uruguayan. His best friend was referred to as negro, by him and his friends since hight school (we are all now up there), but it was a term of endearment. I questioned him about it when he first used it and he said that for them it does not carry any racist sentiment.
That doesn't mean I condone its usage liberally in telenovelas. I've heard the term used in movies and that's probably where it belongs, although the movie could be just as good without the term.
It and a lot of other crude words offend a majority of our U.S. population to hear, but we have to remember, these tns were not made for us. I should think today's Mexican population would be sensitive about references to color and why not just leave it out.
I can see them using it in period or costume dramas, but even then, why not use something like, I worked my fingers to the bone all night, etc.
(Well, this ended up to be more like a dollar contribution. Take it for what it's worth, or not.)
That doesn't mean I condone its usage liberally in telenovelas. I've heard the term used in movies and that's probably where it belongs, although the movie could be just as good without the term.
It and a lot of other crude words offend a majority of our U.S. population to hear, but we have to remember, these tns were not made for us. I should think today's Mexican population would be sensitive about references to color and why not just leave it out.
I can see them using it in period or costume dramas, but even then, why not use something like, I worked my fingers to the bone all night, etc.
(Well, this ended up to be more like a dollar contribution. Take it for what it's worth, or not.)
Anita- ITA about the word "negro" as a simple description or even a term of endearment. It is very fuzzy in LatAm- it's not black and white. :) But what JM said specifically was racist. He said I've been working all night like a negro. That's what was so shocking about it.
Anita and Vivi,
Thanks for addressing the blatant racial slur. Vivi, you've expressed my thoughts precisely. I am now wondering why no one else commented on this remark. Do you think it was
"I don't want to go there; I'll just look the other way," or simply that it did not bother them? I am very curious. Also is there a way to let writers know that this is unacceptable in this enormously profitable industry?
Thanks for addressing the blatant racial slur. Vivi, you've expressed my thoughts precisely. I am now wondering why no one else commented on this remark. Do you think it was
"I don't want to go there; I'll just look the other way," or simply that it did not bother them? I am very curious. Also is there a way to let writers know that this is unacceptable in this enormously profitable industry?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 4:39:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 4:39:00 PM EST
Clara Fying and Vivi,
As I've mentioned before, I've been fortunate to have as my tutor for a number of years a beautiful lady originally from near Guadalajara who taught high school Spanish here for many years. Not only did she teach me Spanish, but a great deal about Mexican culture.
There's a lot to say about the use of the word negro (and of course negra) in Mexico and other Latino cultures in referring to other human beings.
Apparently the term negro refers to anyone with dark skin, not only those of African heritage and in fact is quite frequently used as a term of endearment maybe not unlike (God help me) gordo. (Can you tell I'm already sweating bullets here?)
I think in Destilando Amor that Rodrigo may have referred to Gaviota as mi negrita a few times.
There were several times in Gancho where Beto referred to himself as negro. I recall him once grumbling something like:
"Yes, you always leave the heavy work to the negro."
when Mauricio asked him to perform a menial task.
Clearly the context was the same as Jean Marie's usage and not a term of endearment.
Last night I watched this episode again with my daughter using the English CCs and it was translated as:
"I've been working all night like a dog."
Wouldn't it be great if Jarocha could drop by and share her thoughts with us?
Carlos
As I've mentioned before, I've been fortunate to have as my tutor for a number of years a beautiful lady originally from near Guadalajara who taught high school Spanish here for many years. Not only did she teach me Spanish, but a great deal about Mexican culture.
There's a lot to say about the use of the word negro (and of course negra) in Mexico and other Latino cultures in referring to other human beings.
Apparently the term negro refers to anyone with dark skin, not only those of African heritage and in fact is quite frequently used as a term of endearment maybe not unlike (God help me) gordo. (Can you tell I'm already sweating bullets here?)
I think in Destilando Amor that Rodrigo may have referred to Gaviota as mi negrita a few times.
There were several times in Gancho where Beto referred to himself as negro. I recall him once grumbling something like:
"Yes, you always leave the heavy work to the negro."
when Mauricio asked him to perform a menial task.
Clearly the context was the same as Jean Marie's usage and not a term of endearment.
Last night I watched this episode again with my daughter using the English CCs and it was translated as:
"I've been working all night like a dog."
Wouldn't it be great if Jarocha could drop by and share her thoughts with us?
Carlos
Madelaine - Thank you for the recap!
Aribeth - Happy birthday! Oh, to be 30 y/o again. Really. ~sighs~
Aribeth - Happy birthday! Oh, to be 30 y/o again. Really. ~sighs~
Clara Fying, Vivi, Anita, and Carlos: I completely missed it, the racial slur. I went back and listened to my recording again, and there it was. When I recap I listen and watch the body language and I thought he was working like a dog and put it in there. If I had heard it the first time, I would have put it in the recap and said it was a racial slur. I have heard alot more on Por Ella especially against gays, as there is a gay character on there. But most of the time, if not all, they are bleeped out as Vivi said. I am so sorry I missed it. I don't have any idea who to write to about this at Univision. Maybe if Jarocha sees this, she can tell you.
Mads- I’m glad that it went by you. I don't think Televisa is going to pay much attention to what we in the U.S. think. And frankly, most times I'm annoyed by how much U.S. based Uni censors out of the original Televisa/Mexican episodes in order to cater to our American sensibilities. But that's why it's so shocking that they would be SO clueless about racial slurs and let those stay in so often. I think Americans are way more sensitive about racial issues than we are about fart noises. No? :) Once again Uni shows that there is no rhyme or reason for their censorship (or lack of).
Carlos and Madelaine,
Thanks for speaking to this topic. It is interesting that the English translation is harmless. Someone knew to avoid being offensive.
Yes, I would love to hear from Jarocha.
Carlos, are you native Hispanic speaking - just freshening up your Spanish - or learning from scratch?
Thanks for speaking to this topic. It is interesting that the English translation is harmless. Someone knew to avoid being offensive.
Yes, I would love to hear from Jarocha.
Carlos, are you native Hispanic speaking - just freshening up your Spanish - or learning from scratch?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 6:58:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 6:58:00 PM EST
Thanks to all who explained KendrHO's scheme to separate Big Angel from Cris so that Vikki would abandon Fluffy. Happy Birthday, Aribeth. I see that you and I both had the same idea of Sunglasses looking like Spock !!! Carlos~~~No, I didn't have my own bowlling shoes or ball. I was a poor farm girl with size 4 shoes who had to rent the children's stinky bowling shoes. However, when I was 16, it never entered my teenage mind that wearing shoes that others had worn was unsanitary let alone down right creepy. Ah, the blissful ignorance of youth. No fear of bowling shoe cooties. As for our novela actors speaking English, I remember Fernando Colunga [TBLMOE] sounding very odd when he spoke some English in a recent novela. [It was the one in which he was supposed have attended and played football at Harvard, and his best friend was E-Steve. The actor playing E-Steve threw a lot of English into his conversations. I think that he was supposed to be American.] I was surprised that William Levy's English was pretty good when he was on Dancing with the Stars.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 7:03:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 7:03:00 PM EST
Vivi or Niecie, have you seen Judy B. or Guera post comments lately, if so which blog?
It's getting close to March Madness, and we have to get ready for the big dance.
Anon#1
It's getting close to March Madness, and we have to get ready for the big dance.
Anon#1
Anon #1/Lee- Guerra is hanging out on Por Ella Soy Eva this days. Judy isn't following any closely right now, but sometimes she pops up here or on Eva.
Clara Fying,
I'm not a native speaker but have been studying Spanish for the past ten years or so. Maybe by now I'm something of an advanced beginner. I try to freshen my Spanish up on a daily basis.
By the way, our local Univision channel 45 welcomes viewer input and I correspond on a rather regular basis with Ms Grace Oliveres, primarily about the CCs. I don't know of a way to directly contact Televisa about TN writing.
Carlos
I'm not a native speaker but have been studying Spanish for the past ten years or so. Maybe by now I'm something of an advanced beginner. I try to freshen my Spanish up on a daily basis.
By the way, our local Univision channel 45 welcomes viewer input and I correspond on a rather regular basis with Ms Grace Oliveres, primarily about the CCs. I don't know of a way to directly contact Televisa about TN writing.
Carlos
Thanks Vivi,
I will see if I can get them all on one blog.....
I forgot Blue Lass, she was another "March Madness" contributor.
Juby B., if you see this, Ohio St. don't look as strong this year....let's talk about it. My VCU Rams are gaining confidence..
Anon#1
I will see if I can get them all on one blog.....
I forgot Blue Lass, she was another "March Madness" contributor.
Juby B., if you see this, Ohio St. don't look as strong this year....let's talk about it. My VCU Rams are gaining confidence..
Anon#1
Aribeth, Happy Birthday! All the best.
Jean Marie's racist slur blew right by me too. A few years ago former Mexico president Vicente Fox made a similar slur when talking about Mexican immigrants getting hired in low-paying U.S. jobs. There was an uproar in the U.S. press and he wound up apologizing. You'd think the character of Jean Marie would be a bit more enlighted than the norm since surely he's had to deal with gay slurs. Still, I don't like U.S. censorship of foreign shows.
Jean Marie's racist slur blew right by me too. A few years ago former Mexico president Vicente Fox made a similar slur when talking about Mexican immigrants getting hired in low-paying U.S. jobs. There was an uproar in the U.S. press and he wound up apologizing. You'd think the character of Jean Marie would be a bit more enlighted than the norm since surely he's had to deal with gay slurs. Still, I don't like U.S. censorship of foreign shows.
Niecie,
I didn't think about censorship;
I guess I was thinking that some things are totally taboo, and that
foreign countries should be sensitive
to the taboos of other countries.
Carlos,
Thanks for the info - sounds similar to my situation.
I didn't think about censorship;
I guess I was thinking that some things are totally taboo, and that
foreign countries should be sensitive
to the taboos of other countries.
Carlos,
Thanks for the info - sounds similar to my situation.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 12:10:00 AM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 12:10:00 AM EST
Hi everyone! will savour this recap tomorrow morning over coffee. Thanks Madelaine!
had to report to Carlos, I did take the girls bowling (2 of the 3 plus Grandson, his first bowling experience and since he had the bumpers and railing he is hooked big time!). enjoyed the whole thing.
had to report to Carlos, I did take the girls bowling (2 of the 3 plus Grandson, his first bowling experience and since he had the bumpers and railing he is hooked big time!). enjoyed the whole thing.
Thank you for the birthday wishes! :)
As for Jean Marie's racist slur: I think it should've been erased from the script because Televisa shows are usually marketed to the US audience, too. The creators should've known better.
However, even the movies and series made in the US, the land of PC fail to respect the taboos of other cultures. I think these things have a simple explanation: every country have a different culture and every culture have different racial, social and religious issues. And while we learnt how to address the issues of our culture properly, we often fail to realize what's going on in other cultures. Because you have to live in that world to feel the power of certain words and expressions.
For example in my country ( Hungary) we know the n- world is a huge issue in America thanks to the awful slave trade and its aftermath, but we still don't get it completely. When I was a kid we had a vacation in New York, and my parents told me to never ever use the world "néger" (negro). But we still have a pie called negro kiss and a fantastic candy called negro.
We have different racial problems (with the gypsies, and antisemism is still present here). There are a few black people here, many of them are students at our universities.
As for Jean Marie's racist slur: I think it should've been erased from the script because Televisa shows are usually marketed to the US audience, too. The creators should've known better.
However, even the movies and series made in the US, the land of PC fail to respect the taboos of other cultures. I think these things have a simple explanation: every country have a different culture and every culture have different racial, social and religious issues. And while we learnt how to address the issues of our culture properly, we often fail to realize what's going on in other cultures. Because you have to live in that world to feel the power of certain words and expressions.
For example in my country ( Hungary) we know the n- world is a huge issue in America thanks to the awful slave trade and its aftermath, but we still don't get it completely. When I was a kid we had a vacation in New York, and my parents told me to never ever use the world "néger" (negro). But we still have a pie called negro kiss and a fantastic candy called negro.
We have different racial problems (with the gypsies, and antisemism is still present here). There are a few black people here, many of them are students at our universities.
Aribeth~~~I found your comment very interesting. I teach people from many different cultures, and I've learned that different gestures, words, and behaviors are interpreted differently in different cultures. We just did a unit on culture shock in speaking class that was exactly about this situation.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:24:00 AM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:24:00 AM EST
Words are powerful. They can hurt, and they can soothe. Carlos, to your point, I had a husband and wife from Colombia in my classes a few years ago. The wife told me that her hubby called her ''Gordita'' as a sign of affection. American women would not consider that an affectionate term. I would , however, accept ''Habibi''..Arabic for ''Honey.'' I also like ''Mi Amor'' and ''Mi Alma.''
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:51:00 AM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:51:00 AM EST
Great comments Aribeth. ITA with that you said. It's not Televisa's job to cater to all the sensitivities of all the countries its shows go to. Although, I do hope that they and Mexican society gets to a place where they are more aware and sensitive about racial issues (and other issues). It was Univision's job as the US company to know that a racial slur would not go over well with its American audience. Not bleeping it our or ditching the tiny scene all together was a big fail by them. And if they can replace a scene with the characters eating cake for the Mexican and other international audience, with a scene of the characters drinking Baileys for the U.S. audience, then they can refilm that scene with the character actually saying he's been working hard like a dog. :)
Good Morning Y'all and thanks for more great comments.
Neice: Very well said about the censorship in the U.S.
Aribeth: Liked what you said too. There is a German pastry with the slmost the same name as your Hungarian Pie.
Susanlynn: I found your comment intersting too. When I was first stationed in Sicily, we had to go thru a culture class for hand gestures. There are some we use here in the U.S. you NEVER use there, it is an incredible insult.
Martaivett: I bet you had a blast bowling. I bet you did better than our Angel here : )
Vivi: You said it best and I totally agree with everything you said. I will never understand what they leave in and take out. They definitely should have taken this little scene out, it wasn't integral to the story, same as they should have blurred out that porno graffiti a couple weeks ago. Doesn't Facebook have a page for this TN? I know Elna June awhile back, I think, mentioned that they have Facebook pages for TNs and maybe we can lodge a complaint there about this.
Neice: Very well said about the censorship in the U.S.
Aribeth: Liked what you said too. There is a German pastry with the slmost the same name as your Hungarian Pie.
Susanlynn: I found your comment intersting too. When I was first stationed in Sicily, we had to go thru a culture class for hand gestures. There are some we use here in the U.S. you NEVER use there, it is an incredible insult.
Martaivett: I bet you had a blast bowling. I bet you did better than our Angel here : )
Vivi: You said it best and I totally agree with everything you said. I will never understand what they leave in and take out. They definitely should have taken this little scene out, it wasn't integral to the story, same as they should have blurred out that porno graffiti a couple weeks ago. Doesn't Facebook have a page for this TN? I know Elna June awhile back, I think, mentioned that they have Facebook pages for TNs and maybe we can lodge a complaint there about this.
Great idea, Madelaine!
Who wants to investigate the possibility of registering a complaint?
Who wants to investigate the possibility of registering a complaint?
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 10:33:00 AM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 10:33:00 AM EST
Mads, awesome recap on a great entertaining episode! here are some of my favs, repeating others, mostly.
Your Kiss In On My List, Of The Best Things in Life:
Yes, we have contact...
Her name was Lola, She Was a Show Girl, And Betty Makes a Decision:
Who knew Guzman had a little Mizrahi in him? LOL!! good one!
he chases the ball down the alley, he blows on the ball,every thing imaginable
Furry Fornicator Has a MAJOR EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTION and Does He Need the Little Blue Pill:
Viewerville howl and spew our Baileys, Cafecitos, er Tea, Beverage all over ourselves as we laugh so hard, it hurts.
Dances assures Guzmi he aint' lyin cause he ain't got his sunglasses, er, he ain't lyin'.
NM,
your Dear Diary is hilarious. Also the no gringos were harmed line... LOL!
TN4ever, great comment on the bowling all levels of wrong for all parties.
Ellie, i am with NM, no translation required to relate to 'HOT BOD Gorilita'.
Susanlynn, Gidget and Moondogie (is Dances Big Kahoona?), Anette and Frankie... one of my fav movies (the old ver of course)... btw, i hope you are enjoying North and South, that is the series that i fell in love with Patrick Swayze with.
Esp the beginning few eps when they were in school together, but the whole sieries, both books(pre-civil war and civil war years), is great.
Carlos,
you got a great point about Nikki and wearing icky rental bowling shoes instead of glass slippers or gold rimmed custom shoes, but i wonder if way back when Vicky and her bowled often, they had their own shoes (probably)... but Nikki might be willing to compromise with rented shoes in order to have a date with Guzmi.
Vivi and Carlos, you might be right about the original spanish and translated word for word line of Francisco's.
Aribeth, so sorry i forgot to say happy birthday last night...
I will agree with Vivi, regarding the racial comments, it is up to the country SHOWING the novela to determine what is proper to leave in and what they can take out with either commercial or just bleeping/silencing at least.
more to come...
Your Kiss In On My List, Of The Best Things in Life:
Yes, we have contact...
Her name was Lola, She Was a Show Girl, And Betty Makes a Decision:
Who knew Guzman had a little Mizrahi in him? LOL!! good one!
he chases the ball down the alley, he blows on the ball,every thing imaginable
Furry Fornicator Has a MAJOR EQUIPMENT MALFUNCTION and Does He Need the Little Blue Pill:
Viewerville howl and spew our Baileys, Cafecitos, er Tea, Beverage all over ourselves as we laugh so hard, it hurts.
Dances assures Guzmi he aint' lyin cause he ain't got his sunglasses, er, he ain't lyin'.
NM,
your Dear Diary is hilarious. Also the no gringos were harmed line... LOL!
TN4ever, great comment on the bowling all levels of wrong for all parties.
Ellie, i am with NM, no translation required to relate to 'HOT BOD Gorilita'.
Susanlynn, Gidget and Moondogie (is Dances Big Kahoona?), Anette and Frankie... one of my fav movies (the old ver of course)... btw, i hope you are enjoying North and South, that is the series that i fell in love with Patrick Swayze with.
Esp the beginning few eps when they were in school together, but the whole sieries, both books(pre-civil war and civil war years), is great.
Carlos,
you got a great point about Nikki and wearing icky rental bowling shoes instead of glass slippers or gold rimmed custom shoes, but i wonder if way back when Vicky and her bowled often, they had their own shoes (probably)... but Nikki might be willing to compromise with rented shoes in order to have a date with Guzmi.
Vivi and Carlos, you might be right about the original spanish and translated word for word line of Francisco's.
Aribeth, so sorry i forgot to say happy birthday last night...
I will agree with Vivi, regarding the racial comments, it is up to the country SHOWING the novela to determine what is proper to leave in and what they can take out with either commercial or just bleeping/silencing at least.
more to come...
As far as Gorilita's accent, other than the word translation which i agree with Vivi and Carlos, might have been a direct translation of what he SHOULD have said... written originally in spanish...
(i recall a nasty translation of a line in Yo soy Betty la fea... 'de eso me encargo yo.. (i will see to that myself) which was translated originally to 'and i will put that on charge (as in credit card)...'
so translating sometimes could grossly change the meaning/intent of the words...
But i would not be surprised if Rulli speaks english much better than he did , or if he does indeed have that heavy an accent.
my brother and i went to the same college in upstate NY. 25 yrs later he STILL changes some grammar tense of verbs and adjectives, while i learned to fix the grammar early on, and he has a MUCH HEAVIER accent when speaking english... so it varies, even within families how easily you catch the nuances of grammar and pronunciation from another language.
About EY, i had seen him in several movies before i ever saw any novela of his...i think it was 'held up' and he played a guy caught in wrong place at wrong time at a gas station store (?)
so he has been in US for very long (most of the time between his early novelas and his return with 'la verdad oculta' prior to Destilando (more than 10 yr gap there).
(i recall a nasty translation of a line in Yo soy Betty la fea... 'de eso me encargo yo.. (i will see to that myself) which was translated originally to 'and i will put that on charge (as in credit card)...'
so translating sometimes could grossly change the meaning/intent of the words...
But i would not be surprised if Rulli speaks english much better than he did , or if he does indeed have that heavy an accent.
my brother and i went to the same college in upstate NY. 25 yrs later he STILL changes some grammar tense of verbs and adjectives, while i learned to fix the grammar early on, and he has a MUCH HEAVIER accent when speaking english... so it varies, even within families how easily you catch the nuances of grammar and pronunciation from another language.
About EY, i had seen him in several movies before i ever saw any novela of his...i think it was 'held up' and he played a guy caught in wrong place at wrong time at a gas station store (?)
so he has been in US for very long (most of the time between his early novelas and his return with 'la verdad oculta' prior to Destilando (more than 10 yr gap there).
now i am going ot have to check out some of his english movies to see how much he has progressed from early on to more recently (Knockout with Stonecold Steve Austin? and his NCIS episode)
Wow, Jean Marie's racial slur just whizzed right past my head! I watched it without CCs and with EngCCs later, and each time I missed it. (My listening skills, while improving, are not "there" yet completely!) I think I was so enthralled by Francisco's English that nothing else caught my attention! LOL.
Yes, I agree with Vivi, it's Univision's job to fix this. If it's not a slur in Mexico, so be it. But Univision is always on the alert and ready to cut out completely innocuous things that offend nobody (like they blur out paintings with abstract renditions of boobies and remove bits from tame love scenes). So how did they miss something that was a thousand times more offensive than that? I don't get it at all!
Regarding cultural differences, I have met a few Germans online who are astonished that we use "nazi" in a joke context here ("Soup nazi" and so forth). I don't know if all Germans are shocked by such use, or just the few I've encountered, though. I'm quite ignorant about that, really.
Yes, I agree with Vivi, it's Univision's job to fix this. If it's not a slur in Mexico, so be it. But Univision is always on the alert and ready to cut out completely innocuous things that offend nobody (like they blur out paintings with abstract renditions of boobies and remove bits from tame love scenes). So how did they miss something that was a thousand times more offensive than that? I don't get it at all!
Regarding cultural differences, I have met a few Germans online who are astonished that we use "nazi" in a joke context here ("Soup nazi" and so forth). I don't know if all Germans are shocked by such use, or just the few I've encountered, though. I'm quite ignorant about that, really.
On Jean Marie's racial slur -
I heard it and I winced. It's not the first time I've heard offensive language on Spanish language television. In fact, a couple of days ago there was an even more egregious bit of dialogue on Univisión's satellite station, Unimás, in the (generally excellent) Colombian novela, Made in Cartagena: a rich, white Colombiano tells his friend how lucky she is to be going to Europe since Colombia is so hot and there are so many "negros" there.
I also wince every time a novela character says: "Say it in cristiano" or "I killed a cristiano!" or "I didn't see a single cristiano!" The word "cristiano" used this way is a fossilized bit of racism. If it means "human being," then by extension, non-Christians are less than human.
One of the really interesting things about Univisión telenovelas (compared to, say, the Miami novelas on Telemundo) is the window they provide into Mexican culture. And if you peek into other people's windows, you may see things you don't like.
When Univisión (or Telemundo) censors a show for United States airing, I'm pretty sure it is with one eye on the FCC and the other eye on American sponsors. They are likely working off a list of "dirty words" and proscribed body parts. A word like negro or cristiano slips right through the net. I would hate to see them censor their U.S. versions even further in their attempts to pander to the American sensibility. What I would like is for the Televisa writers to get together and agree that the casual use of racist language -- especially when the speaker is a sympathetic character -- is unacceptable. It's not good for any of us. On either side of the window.
That might be an uphill battle, however, considering the implicit racism of our fairy tales in which so many güeritos take the leads and so many morenos scrape and bow in the background.
I heard it and I winced. It's not the first time I've heard offensive language on Spanish language television. In fact, a couple of days ago there was an even more egregious bit of dialogue on Univisión's satellite station, Unimás, in the (generally excellent) Colombian novela, Made in Cartagena: a rich, white Colombiano tells his friend how lucky she is to be going to Europe since Colombia is so hot and there are so many "negros" there.
I also wince every time a novela character says: "Say it in cristiano" or "I killed a cristiano!" or "I didn't see a single cristiano!" The word "cristiano" used this way is a fossilized bit of racism. If it means "human being," then by extension, non-Christians are less than human.
One of the really interesting things about Univisión telenovelas (compared to, say, the Miami novelas on Telemundo) is the window they provide into Mexican culture. And if you peek into other people's windows, you may see things you don't like.
When Univisión (or Telemundo) censors a show for United States airing, I'm pretty sure it is with one eye on the FCC and the other eye on American sponsors. They are likely working off a list of "dirty words" and proscribed body parts. A word like negro or cristiano slips right through the net. I would hate to see them censor their U.S. versions even further in their attempts to pander to the American sensibility. What I would like is for the Televisa writers to get together and agree that the casual use of racist language -- especially when the speaker is a sympathetic character -- is unacceptable. It's not good for any of us. On either side of the window.
That might be an uphill battle, however, considering the implicit racism of our fairy tales in which so many güeritos take the leads and so many morenos scrape and bow in the background.
WHAT IS IN THE BOX/
You know, the one Nelson sent to Vikki for her birthday:
Too small for a Lexus --
Too big for a Cartier watch --
A complete set of Inglés sin barreras, VHS edition?
Something furry -- and fake -- like Nelson himself?
You know, the one Nelson sent to Vikki for her birthday:
Too small for a Lexus --
Too big for a Cartier watch --
A complete set of Inglés sin barreras, VHS edition?
Something furry -- and fake -- like Nelson himself?
NM,
Something furry -- and fake -- like Nelson himself?
i would prefer something furry and alive, like a puppy, but my guess is yours, furry and dead/fake like a polyester itchy fake fur coat.
And i did not say it before but I LOVE the team AV, both recappers and commenters, it makes the novela watching 100 times more fun!
btw, in my bowling outing with the girls, i got a strike and a couple spares but i had my 'wanna get away?' moments like a gutter ball after a spare etc etc...
considering i had bowling class at college and even have a bowling trophy (during college, a friend of mine volunteered me for partnering with his best friend/roomate for a scotch doubles tournament where there were only 4 couples entered total, we (his roomate and i) happened to be lucky more times than average)
Something furry -- and fake -- like Nelson himself?
i would prefer something furry and alive, like a puppy, but my guess is yours, furry and dead/fake like a polyester itchy fake fur coat.
And i did not say it before but I LOVE the team AV, both recappers and commenters, it makes the novela watching 100 times more fun!
btw, in my bowling outing with the girls, i got a strike and a couple spares but i had my 'wanna get away?' moments like a gutter ball after a spare etc etc...
considering i had bowling class at college and even have a bowling trophy (during college, a friend of mine volunteered me for partnering with his best friend/roomate for a scotch doubles tournament where there were only 4 couples entered total, we (his roomate and i) happened to be lucky more times than average)
Clara Fying: I am not a member of Facebook, and don't go on there. Maybe one of our commenters can check it out.
Martaivett: So agree with you about the country showing the TN and falls squarely on Uni's shoulders. Aren't they here in the US? Also EY's performance in NCIS Los Angeles was a great surprise to me, as I had never heard him speak Spanish before. He was really good, even with the accent.
Elvira: I want to respond to the "soup nazi" thingy. My Mother was German and lived under Hitler, and hated that nazi term for the civilians, she always told me there was a nazi party, and then there were the civilians, all tarred with the same brush. The sad thing was some of her family ended up in concentration camps, 2uncles who were priests, and a sister in law that was Jewish. All three were put to death. So for her to be labeled a nazi really chapped her butt. She absolutely hated that term. Her family were not members of the party. I hope that explains it some.
NovelaMaven: Thanks for the other words you put up that are offensive. I am going to listen more closely from now on. Por Ella is so good at bleeping offensive stuff out. About FF and the box, I think it is something furry and fake like he is : )
Martaivett: So agree with you about the country showing the TN and falls squarely on Uni's shoulders. Aren't they here in the US? Also EY's performance in NCIS Los Angeles was a great surprise to me, as I had never heard him speak Spanish before. He was really good, even with the accent.
Elvira: I want to respond to the "soup nazi" thingy. My Mother was German and lived under Hitler, and hated that nazi term for the civilians, she always told me there was a nazi party, and then there were the civilians, all tarred with the same brush. The sad thing was some of her family ended up in concentration camps, 2uncles who were priests, and a sister in law that was Jewish. All three were put to death. So for her to be labeled a nazi really chapped her butt. She absolutely hated that term. Her family were not members of the party. I hope that explains it some.
NovelaMaven: Thanks for the other words you put up that are offensive. I am going to listen more closely from now on. Por Ella is so good at bleeping offensive stuff out. About FF and the box, I think it is something furry and fake like he is : )
Clara Fying---I comment on this site a lot and got boiled in oil for stating that Polita had a weight problem, which was true and so I will not comment on Jean Marie's statement. However I will say that in an effort to make this a "perfect world" today, there is far to much censorship. That's all that I am going to say except that when I was working with a large group of Mexican people I knew that the term "gringo" was often considered to be derogatory when refering to Americans. I decided to take something derogatory/bad and make it into something good. I became the "gringo" and ended up making many friends in the process.
the gringo
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 12:48:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 12:48:00 PM EST
Thank you, SuperMarta! :)
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EY went to the US in 1992 after En carne propia to make Marielena (220 episodes) with Lucía Méndez at the very young Telemundo. It was a huge hit. Then he stayed to make Guadalupe with Bambi Noriega in 1993-1994 (270 episodes, wow, they were so HOT together). Then he had small/supporting roles in godawful/mediocre movies and series. (By the way, Held Up with Jamie Foxx was fun, I liked it.) He returned to Televisa in 2006, but he still lives in America, there are many paparazzi photos of him doing stuff in Los Angeles. I guess he has a house there.
*aribethspendstoomuchtimeontheinternet dot com*
Oh, and I found a video about his citizenship ceremony.
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If any of you want to file a complain, please DON'T go to the official Facebook page. Unless you want to see dozens and dozens of spoilers. :) You should rather send an e-mail to Univision.
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Mads, I'm sorry to hear what happened to your family. My father also lost his parents in WW2.
Hungary was also labelled a nazi country, many people were transported to the nazi concentration camps, then the country was gangraped and pillaged by the soviet armies, then as a punishment the country and its riches were sold out to the Soviet Union (thanks to the great gentlemen like Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt), then many people were transported to Gulag camps, and then we were blessed by the 40 years of communism. So, in a nutshell, everyone is completely fed up with the 20th century.
But we still love the word grammarnazi. :) It's so spot on.
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As for the racial issues: it's sad and strange that the most Caucasian-looking, most light-skinned celebrities (with the straight/wavy hair, when it comes to women) are considered attractive all around the world. In telenovelas the European-looking actors are overrepresented and the rest are usually doomed to play servants or extras. How many actors are/were at Televisa who don't have nice blonde/light brown hair and/or green/blue/amber eyes, pale skin, who have a little bit more edgier/rougher features and yet they are/were considered hot and successful? Colunga, Gattorno, Yanez, Salinas, Palomo, Daniela Romo, Yadhira Carrillo...?
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EY went to the US in 1992 after En carne propia to make Marielena (220 episodes) with Lucía Méndez at the very young Telemundo. It was a huge hit. Then he stayed to make Guadalupe with Bambi Noriega in 1993-1994 (270 episodes, wow, they were so HOT together). Then he had small/supporting roles in godawful/mediocre movies and series. (By the way, Held Up with Jamie Foxx was fun, I liked it.) He returned to Televisa in 2006, but he still lives in America, there are many paparazzi photos of him doing stuff in Los Angeles. I guess he has a house there.
*aribethspendstoomuchtimeontheinternet dot com*
Oh, and I found a video about his citizenship ceremony.
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If any of you want to file a complain, please DON'T go to the official Facebook page. Unless you want to see dozens and dozens of spoilers. :) You should rather send an e-mail to Univision.
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Mads, I'm sorry to hear what happened to your family. My father also lost his parents in WW2.
Hungary was also labelled a nazi country, many people were transported to the nazi concentration camps, then the country was gangraped and pillaged by the soviet armies, then as a punishment the country and its riches were sold out to the Soviet Union (thanks to the great gentlemen like Churchill, Stalin and Roosevelt), then many people were transported to Gulag camps, and then we were blessed by the 40 years of communism. So, in a nutshell, everyone is completely fed up with the 20th century.
But we still love the word grammarnazi. :) It's so spot on.
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As for the racial issues: it's sad and strange that the most Caucasian-looking, most light-skinned celebrities (with the straight/wavy hair, when it comes to women) are considered attractive all around the world. In telenovelas the European-looking actors are overrepresented and the rest are usually doomed to play servants or extras. How many actors are/were at Televisa who don't have nice blonde/light brown hair and/or green/blue/amber eyes, pale skin, who have a little bit more edgier/rougher features and yet they are/were considered hot and successful? Colunga, Gattorno, Yanez, Salinas, Palomo, Daniela Romo, Yadhira Carrillo...?
Aribeth: Thanks for what you said and I'm sorry about your family too. Thanks also for the info on EY and the link and also about the Facebook page. I don't want to see any spoilers, I want to see it as it goes. I guess if anyone wants to write or call Univision it will have to be in the region you live in. I think their corporate headquarters are in Miami, if I'm not mistaken. I think the Univision site might have an e-mail link on there, but not sure.
Gringo: I too like what you said about the word gringo. I know on AB they used it as a "nickname" for a character, and I think one of the commenters said it was supposed to be a diss of the character. I like that you use Gringo for good : )
Gringo: I too like what you said about the word gringo. I know on AB they used it as a "nickname" for a character, and I think one of the commenters said it was supposed to be a diss of the character. I like that you use Gringo for good : )
Aribeth: About the actors I have always liked Luis Gattica and think he would make a fine galan. I know he has been one kind of on AB. I didn't watch CME which he was in too. I liked him on CS 2009. As far as women go, I like Ana Martin and Marianne Seonne (sp) on Por Ella. I think they are more authentic and not so European I think. I don't get Caucasians are sought after either. There are many beautiful people from all different cultures.
Yeahhh, Luis Gatica! I fell in love with his acting (and his character) in CS09. :)
Mariana Seoane is gorgeous, but imho she looks like a Russian model.
Oh, one more: Kate del Castillo.
Mariana Seoane is gorgeous, but imho she looks like a Russian model.
Oh, one more: Kate del Castillo.
The episode of Black in Latin America that I caught on PBS yesterday was focused on Brazil (I assume there are other episodes for other LaAm countries as well). One of the people interviewed was the first Black actress to be the lead in a tele-series. The year was 1976!
She spoke about how the producers didn't want to give her the part, although the story was about a Black Brazilian woman who became one of Brazil's most powerful women in the 1800s-- Chica de Silva. The producer said she was ugly, and so did all the magazine editors at the time who still didn't want to put her on the cover although the series had been a huge hit. She spoke about how back then African features were thought to be ugly, and to a great extent they still are thought that way in Brazil. They went to a magazine stand, and not one face on the covers was a Black face, in a country where the majority of the people have some African in them. In fact, it has the second largest Black population in the world, after Nigeria! They spoke about the idea of a racial democracy, which Brazil has said it is for decades, and how it was a myth created by the elite to prevent the type of civil rights movement that happened in the States. If you tell people they are treated as equals, even though it's not true, it will pacify them enough to prevent them from rising up. It worked perfectly. Very interesting program. I hope they feature other LatAm countries.
She spoke about how the producers didn't want to give her the part, although the story was about a Black Brazilian woman who became one of Brazil's most powerful women in the 1800s-- Chica de Silva. The producer said she was ugly, and so did all the magazine editors at the time who still didn't want to put her on the cover although the series had been a huge hit. She spoke about how back then African features were thought to be ugly, and to a great extent they still are thought that way in Brazil. They went to a magazine stand, and not one face on the covers was a Black face, in a country where the majority of the people have some African in them. In fact, it has the second largest Black population in the world, after Nigeria! They spoke about the idea of a racial democracy, which Brazil has said it is for decades, and how it was a myth created by the elite to prevent the type of civil rights movement that happened in the States. If you tell people they are treated as equals, even though it's not true, it will pacify them enough to prevent them from rising up. It worked perfectly. Very interesting program. I hope they feature other LatAm countries.
Vivi: Thanks so much for posting about the PBS program. They aren't doing it in my area, but when they do, I am definitely watching.
There are two more actors that I loved on TN's that were very good looking, Edgardo Elieze(Elvis) on Destilando Amor and Marisol Castillo (Jacqueline) on Por Ella. Both should be leads. Elvis was so gorgeous on DA I absolutely loved his character and Jacque on Por Ella I like cause she's got a lot of class. Both actors are wonderful in the parts they played and I really hope we get to see them again in another TN.
There are two more actors that I loved on TN's that were very good looking, Edgardo Elieze(Elvis) on Destilando Amor and Marisol Castillo (Jacqueline) on Por Ella. Both should be leads. Elvis was so gorgeous on DA I absolutely loved his character and Jacque on Por Ella I like cause she's got a lot of class. Both actors are wonderful in the parts they played and I really hope we get to see them again in another TN.
Very interesting, Vivi. I have a woman from Brazil in 2 of my classes , and in the spring, I'll be tutoring a businessman from Brazil. I'll have to ask their perspectives on this topic. I have many students from Dominican Republic. They have clay dolls there without facial features because Dominicans have such varied appearances . Some have very light skin and others very dark. The comments today have been thought-provoking. We started out talking about bowling !!!!
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:07:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:07:00 PM EST
Mads- This clip is for you. Ana Martin and Edgardo (who were also in Destilando Amor together), flirting with each other in Un Gancho al Corazon. She calls him a roasted chicken as she passes him by, and he says she can grill him anytime. This is a hilarious way to play on racial differences. It's just a few seconds starting at Minute 4:45: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNV-0tT0sdM
I agree, I admit that I was surprised by all the European-looking actors and actresses on telenovelas. Granted, there are a portion of people that look like this living there, so it's not like they shouldn't be represented, but why so many? We have so many absolutely beautiful people who have looks that reflect more of the actual population. And they're beautiful! What's the deal here?
Concerning Germans, my heritage is German on my mother's side and English and German on my father's side. My maternal grandparents came long before the WWII. My grandmother told us that her father used to say , ''I won't let the kaiser use my sons as canon fodder.'' My grandmother used to talk to my mother and her sisters in German, but only in the house. She wouldn't allow them to speak German outside the house. Hub's cousin was a German language major. When he stayed with a German family one semester in the 70s, he told us that it was considered very offensive to even mention the war or nazis.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:14:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:14:00 PM EST
Susanlynn- From the program it seems that White Brazilians have a very different idea of the racial democracy (they think it exists) than Black Brazilians do. Not surprisingly.
I've only known white Brazilians...rich... white Brazilians. In fact, the ESL secretary is from Brazil , and I've tutored several business men and women from Brazil. I'll have to look for that show on PBS. p.s. Vivi, did I ever tell you that my daughter left the world of finance and is now in nonprofit ? p.s. I like your new photo!
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:27:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:27:00 PM EST
Susanlynn- So she made the transition. Is she enjoying it? You have to have a passion for whatever your org's mission is, but once you do, the work doesn't feel like work most times.
Thanks for the compliment on the pic. :)
Thanks for the compliment on the pic. :)
Vivi~~She loves it. After working in a male dominated profession, she's enjoying wotking with a lot of females. Everyone is very supportive of each other, and there is a very positive atmosphere. One of her best friends at her new job is from Mexico. She is making less money, but she is less stressed and very content.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:48:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:48:00 PM EST
aribeth, luis gatica and kate del castillo were together in La Mentira, although their characters barely interacted there... totally agree those two are great actors.
martaivett~~~Two of my fav movies are ''Gidget'' and ''Gidget Goes Hawaiian.'' I wanted to BE Gidget. I am enjoying North and South except for all the violence and nastiness. I fast forward many scenes. I love Patrick Swayze. Another fav movie of mine is ''Dirty Dancing.'' I wanted to BE Baby !!! What-a-guy....gone too soon.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:53:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 4:53:00 PM EST
susanlynn--I would love to talk to you off line. Your background is soooo similar to mine. If you are in the mood, reach me at almeg at veri zon dot com (no spaces in that phone co's name).
My father's family was German, from East Prussia to be exact. My mother's English, here since the late 1600s. He and his siblings were born here, but spoke German in the house until they went to school. After that, his parents spoke to them in German and they answered in English.
Aribeth--we didn't lose anyone during WWII in concentration camps, but our German relatives were displaced and were never able to go back to East Prussia when it was absorbed by Russia. My cousins were able to visit a few years ago, but found the city impoverished and the residents were mostly Russians who had settled there. His father served in the German army during WWII but was never a member of the nazi party--he was drafted. He was captured by the British and spent a couple of years as a POW. He was probably one of the lucky ones.
My father's family was German, from East Prussia to be exact. My mother's English, here since the late 1600s. He and his siblings were born here, but spoke German in the house until they went to school. After that, his parents spoke to them in German and they answered in English.
Aribeth--we didn't lose anyone during WWII in concentration camps, but our German relatives were displaced and were never able to go back to East Prussia when it was absorbed by Russia. My cousins were able to visit a few years ago, but found the city impoverished and the residents were mostly Russians who had settled there. His father served in the German army during WWII but was never a member of the nazi party--he was drafted. He was captured by the British and spent a couple of years as a POW. He was probably one of the lucky ones.
Madelaine--my sympathies to you and your mother's family. I didn't mean to leave you out of our "German" discussion thread. No one was safe in those days. We can only hope that it never happens again.
Thank you so much for the welcome Madelaine and Vivi. I've commented before three other times as anonymous, but decided to give myself a name since I am always on here reading the recaps which I absolutely adore.
Look forward to chatting with all of you.
Look forward to chatting with all of you.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 5:22:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 5:22:00 PM EST
Anita..wow...small world. My paternal father was from England. I believe that my maternal grandmother was from a city in Germany that became part of East Germany. I think that it was Morona or something like that. I'll try to figure out how to contact you. I've found that the same thing happens when you move to the U.S. no matter what language you speak. The parents speak to the kids in their native language , and the children respond in English. It seems to always happen that way no matter what the native language is. Kids always want to assimulate quickly to the new culture. What state are you in , Anita ? The part of rural northeastern PA where I live is filled with German American farmers. Many families have been here for a hundred years. The old ones still speak PA. Dutch . My parents were considered Aushlanders when they moved here from a nearby city.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 5:58:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 5:58:00 PM EST
First--
Welcome Texas--big state, big heart. Glad to have you with us on this show.
susanlynn--
My grandfather came from Insterburg on the Inster River. They came to the US when the Homestead Act was opening up the Great Plains in the 1880s. They settled in Western Kansas where there was a growing community of Germans and German-speaking Swiss immigrants.
Welcome Texas--big state, big heart. Glad to have you with us on this show.
susanlynn--
My grandfather came from Insterburg on the Inster River. They came to the US when the Homestead Act was opening up the Great Plains in the 1880s. They settled in Western Kansas where there was a growing community of Germans and German-speaking Swiss immigrants.
Oh, and Susanlynn--I'm in the Washington Metropolitan Region in between DC and Baltimore--right in the I-95 transportation corridor. I'm VERY familiar with it--and of NE PA along I-81, Tunkhannock, Montrose, Scranton.
Going back to Guzmancin- Maybe he's reading or acting a line the tn writers gave him - that of a person speaking some small English lines. I'm biased. so don't mind me. Team Nikki/Guzmancito. and thanks super funny Madeleine.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:10:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:10:00 PM EST
vida2--I'm with you in so far as anything Guzmancito does is alright with me (and of course, how he looks, too). OTOH, this fellow is supposed to have gone to school in the states, gotten his Armed Guard Credentials there, met and married Amber there, so he should have been able to say, 'Please tell her Francisco Guzman called,' without garbling it. I think we have to lay the blame at the feet of the inept translators and wipe Guzmi's slate clean. To his credit, he was following the script.
Lol, Really enjoyed that welcome Anita. Thanks bunches!
Vida2, Glad to have someone else who is Team Nikki/Guzmancito.
Vida2, Glad to have someone else who is Team Nikki/Guzmancito.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:31:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 18, 2013 at 7:31:00 PM EST
Vivi: Thank you so much amiga for that clip of Elvis : ) Yowsa that man is hawt and I liked Ana Martin and Elvis flirting so very cute! Now I will have to find that TN from the beginning and watch it.
Vida2: I think SR speaks very good English and spoke the line the writers wrote. I am blaming the writers for this faux pas : )
Texas: I think there are more Guzmi/Nikki fans than you think. Alot of us are pulling for them, but get aggravated with Nikki and her little games and Guzmi with his ultimate secrets : )
Vida2: I think SR speaks very good English and spoke the line the writers wrote. I am blaming the writers for this faux pas : )
Texas: I think there are more Guzmi/Nikki fans than you think. Alot of us are pulling for them, but get aggravated with Nikki and her little games and Guzmi with his ultimate secrets : )
A last note. Thank you to all commenters this weekend and every day that comment on this TN. This was a very deep discussion this weekend, and thank you Clara Fying for being this slur to our attention. This will surely keep us on our toes. Thanks to all the fine recappers of this TN for putting in such detailed work for each of these epis. Thank you all : )
Oops again for the typo I put to Clara Fying, I meant bringing the racial slur to our attention not being. Sorry for the typo.
Marta, I'm so glad that ya'll had such fun bowling...I knew you would.
Madelaine, I wish that you had been with us during Gancho. It really was very special. Two of the best couples ever... Coni/Beto... Ximena/Rolu and neither was the main couple.
Carlos
Madelaine, I wish that you had been with us during Gancho. It really was very special. Two of the best couples ever... Coni/Beto... Ximena/Rolu and neither was the main couple.
Carlos
I'm not trying to give SB a hard time, but I have trouble believing that he understood what he was saying (in English). I can believe he speaks some English, but comparing the way he spoke his lines to how Big Ed speaks English, there's a huge, huge difference there. SB sounds more like the other people (in clips that I've collected) who don't appear to comprehend what they're saying, really.
I do blame the writers for the bungled line in English. I think SB followed the script. I also think that had it been Big Ed that was reading that line, he would have caught the error! (But don't get me wrong, I love "Professor Hottie" aka Sebastian Rulli. The awkward English just endears me to him--it doesn't really matter that much either way to me. I think it's cute more than anything.)
I do blame the writers for the bungled line in English. I think SB followed the script. I also think that had it been Big Ed that was reading that line, he would have caught the error! (But don't get me wrong, I love "Professor Hottie" aka Sebastian Rulli. The awkward English just endears me to him--it doesn't really matter that much either way to me. I think it's cute more than anything.)
Madelaine: What a delight your recap was! "Note to Jean Marie: Take those lovely eggs and make some Creme Anglaise, jus' sayin'", "the Furry Fornicator has a major equipment malfunction" and "Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy and a little Happy Dance ensues with some swinging and hugging" were among my favorites.
I loved the bowling scenes - I could easily see Vicky, the Angel, Nikki and Guzman as a family (know I shouldn't say that but...)
I can't believe Nikki rented bowling shoes! Ewwwwww. too funny.
Amiga, your recaps are simply sublime. As there were so many wonderful comments, I will just say I enjoyed everything.
You made my day!
Diana
I loved the bowling scenes - I could easily see Vicky, the Angel, Nikki and Guzman as a family (know I shouldn't say that but...)
I can't believe Nikki rented bowling shoes! Ewwwwww. too funny.
Amiga, your recaps are simply sublime. As there were so many wonderful comments, I will just say I enjoyed everything.
You made my day!
Diana
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, February 19, 2013 at 7:26:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 at 7:26:00 AM EST
Madelaine you're so right.
I have to admit I get tired of Nikki's games too but it makes for an chaotic storyline.
Thanks for making me aware of that. :)
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I have to admit I get tired of Nikki's games too but it makes for an chaotic storyline.
Thanks for making me aware of that. :)
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