Thursday, March 21, 2013
Amor Bravío #150 (Uni 145) Wed 3/20/13 " Dan Tells a Tall Tale etc."
Please hold this space for us while I finish the last page of the recap, okay?
Mena
Dear Mena,
What else would I do since one of us monopolizes the keyboard alllll the time, if you know what I mean? And while I have a minute may I remind you to take it easy on the WTQ? You get a little overexcited when you hit those keys. I know it is hard to believe some of the antics of these characters because they give me a headache too, but have a heart. Whoever still wonders if computers can approach the brains of humans didn't watch the antics of a certain hunky lunk last night is all I can say.... Go finish up and post so that viewerville can be updated on hunky lunk's whopper tale he told Wife 2, Miriam.
Sincerely, Dell
OK, Dell and I offer you the rundown on last night's capitulo....
Miriam and Dan’s Casita: While searching for a blankie for baby Aggie, Miriam finds a pendant with the carved design of a letter C. Closer study of the pendant reveals a little “sweet nothing” inscription on it. Squinting her eyes and concentrating carefully, she wonders aloud….. whose name starts with a letter “!C!”….. hmmmmmm… What do you think “! C!”Caridad? Hmmmm…. I know….. “!C!”Camila! That’s it! Viewerville claps that she figured this out so handily. QTH? She sets her jaw firmly as she says Dan had better start explaining this, pronto. [“Beeech”, adds Mr Mena.]
Labels: bravio
Myo
I don't understand the extreme lengths Dan is now going through with MM. How does he not think his "other" wedding will never come to light? Perhaps its because I feel he is regressing as he told lies in the beginning but some of his choices are not making sense to me; unless one is trying to extend a TN.
The preview with Cam slapping Dio was great. I know Dio's a villain and villains lie but he needs to be better with what lie he tells which people. His silly daughter is one thing but to claim to Cam he had no idea about Gussy being in jail, please. And Cam STILL doesn't know how her mother was tied up. If she did, Cam might have given him a great right hook.
Still blows me away a little bit when Ileana says she loves Iago.
I’m not so sure it was Mariano’s place to tell Dan to butt out. But I am glad that he’s fighting for Cam. I know some of Viewerville have been upset with Cam and Dan for not fighting enough for each other. See. Mariano heard you.
Karen: it's time they tell Cam about Dio's treatment of Agustina that night.
Re: yesterday’s end of day comments:
Cathyx: I’m also a little concerned about the negativity that attached itself to this TN blog. This is the first time this has happened—in my admittedly limited experience. I’ve been on boards that are vicious and I have always been grateful that this one existed. For the most part, though, it’s been lively and respectful.
Chris: There are a couple of people here whose opinions and their way of expressing them I respect very much, while I vehemently disagree with them. ☺
Nanette
*Re Pablo and NG: " Heoffers to take her home to avoid any marauders who might be lurking somewhere between the front door and the house next door. Viewerville considers Pablo may be the one in danger of being mugged, thugged or hugged."
*"[Nat] explains that Dio is going to get the best lawyer in all of Mexico to help Agustina get out of jail as viewerville sees pigs flying above the rooftops in Aculco."
*"Dan needs more time to figure out a tap dance (good thing he was once on DWTS)."
My favorite part of last night's episodio were the avances. I cheered out loud when Cam slapped Dio. One part of the avances that you didn't mention involved Ana questioning Miriam. Yay!!
Thanks for the laughs. I slept through a great deal of last night. I wondered about watching the rest this AM, as I am so over some of these characters, but I am glad I did now. Your wit makes the witless enjoyable.
Cindy
You really had some great lines, as everyone has mentioned. Loved Mr. Mens chiming in. These were some of my faves:
"Dan needs more time to figure out a tap dance (good thing he was once on DWTS)."
"Amanda is wonderous how she raised such a dense daughter."
"Indignant meets righteous and they each stand their ground."
You were really on a roll, starting with your conversation with Dell. :)
Both Dan and Pablo were like kicked puppies last night-- puppies kicked to the curb by their owners (Cam and Luzma). How many folks actually believe Dan is going to make it to that weekend flight to Chile? Plans is tns are only made to be ruined.
You just got me through my post-lunch slump. What a funny, well-done recap, complete with a Dell-Mena discussion!
Really, much as I love our Daniel, is it any wonder that Miriam's jaw seemed to set itself in stone? His busy day of delivering messages and blankets -- too funny.
I did cheer on on Rafa's message to Daniel: time to go home to Chile, buddy! You just have to stop with the fairy tales.
I do want to hear what everyone has to say about Isa's breakfast table dress. Another animal print, age inappropriate. Cayetano is so far gone, he doesn't seem to notice.
What a funny description of Amanda's reaction to Natalia's denial: how did I raise such a dense daughter?
Let's hope that the THWACK hurts. I just hated his egomaniacal laugh on contacting Gladys' son. And this, from a villain who has failed at every turn.
I can only comment now since I have to work the rest of the day, boo hoo.
It's funny that everything Isa said about Ileana is true and we all have been saying the same thing and that she needs to go, but now that she's actually useful, I hate to see her go. And about Ileana saying that she loves Yago. Why would she? What about him would she fall in love with? She knows he's a player and he's never been nice to her. It doesn't seem plausible.
I hate to say that I called the Natalia reaction to her convo with Dion correctly, but hey, I did. One of my few, I must admit. That girl really bugs me.
I thought Dan's lie was a great coverup excuse. But he's also correct that he can't keep that up and remember what he's said. He does need to go to Chile, but I'm guessing something else waylays him and forces him to stay. (I hope so)
It doesn't matter what Mariano tries with Camila. When she kisses him, it will never be as good as with Dan, so she will never go there and settle for that. She already did that with Alonso and she won't do that again.
Loved Mr. Mena's reaction to the Fair Maid Marian and the Magic Locket needing some 'splaining. (It took her long enough to make the C connection, ya?) Must say, for a rational, head on her shoulders gal, MM jumped right to a wrong conclusion that it was Camila who went after Dan, the Man, Viudo. Too bad she wasn't around to see how it really happened.
The new waiting room "muy de moda."
Liked that alot. Now, besides hospital scenes, should we make a list of who has been in jail or had to come down to make a declaracion?
Is there *no end* to Dionisio's intrigues? (That's retorical, of course.) He had it all planned out long ago. Hope this one turns out as well as his other ones and Gussy gets to go home soon.
I can't take any more of Pablo and Luzma. Fish or cut bait, you two. I know, I'm being harsh, but now there's only 16 hours left to solve their intimacy problem and we have bigger fish to fry.
Dan can't always keep his promises to butt out of Camila's life. Remember how well that worked when he and Rafa promised to woo Camila fairly and Dan would not take advantage of his position at the ranch? (Not that I minded. He and Camila were a much more sizzling match than she and Rafa would have been.)
Aren't MM, Caridad and Baby Aggie the only ones in all of Aculco, Metepec, LMQ and BV that don't know that Cam 'n Dan's relationship got as far as marriage? Can't believe no one has made any bigger slips that Ana.
Another great performance by Miriam! I applaud her for that! *clap. clap*
No, seriously, that da(m)n jerk! Always making up excuses/lies to cover up his stupidity! He's so full of bs(!) that it's getting out of hand now! How much more can poor Miriam take?! So now she's gonna demand some answers & she's not just gonna sit around & do nothing about this! And now he's gonna get Cami into trouble all because of his lame excuses!!! Whatcha gonna do??? When the hulkster comes for you???.....%&$#!((())) /// <<< i have no idea what i'm doing.
ok, i like that cami's showing an independent spirit through all this, but girl, that ain't enough to stand your ground. u gotta be firm in ur decisions & stick to it 'til the end. what da heck am i talking about? i'm referring to the promise she made about her relationship w/ dan and that goes for him as well. but of course, somehow they'll end up together eventually, right??? THAT's what gets me so mad! also, i hate cop-outs! & i have a feeling that dan will be getting another one very soon enough...
~ posted by not-a-dan-fan.
Nanette, I like everything about Mariano and the way he handles himself. I think him telling Dan that turn about is fair play was not at all out of line, and Dan seemed to take it well. He is absolutely right that Camila doesn’t need the MalQ; she could be his partner in ranching at the BA. Maybe he is not the sexiest man on earth, but he has a heart of gold and is someone who would be very easy to be married to for decades. Sexiness matters short term but character matters long term. Or at least that is what decades of being happily married to a sexy man with great character has taught me. :)
Anita, you are right. You would think that in a small community like the pueblo or Alculco where a lot of the people have lived for generations a shopkeeper or a neighbor would have let it slip by now. “I see your name is the same as the fellow who married the Monterde gal” or “I notice your accent is Chilean, do you know the man who married the owner of the MalQ?” or something along those lines.
Dan was knee deep in it last night. Oy ve. When he told Rafael that if Miriam learns the truth that would be awful, I didn’t think he was talking about her health. He was sounding scared for his own health and well being. She did hit him last night, right? Please tell me I didn’t just imagine that. BTW, I say good for her for telling Dante that she wouldn’t stay with someone who doesn’t love her. It won’t be long now before she’ll have to walk that talk.
Vivi, that dress was a wonder indeed. I was also wondering if I have really seen the epaulets, so thank you for the confirmation.
I think that tonight, Cam should just tell MM: "Yes, I fell in love with Dan but Dan is going to go back to Chile with you so that's all."
Then let MM deal with that. She can get the info little by little. She can go visit Vivi and run into Roman, or get a glimpse of Rafa's book, or ....
From the looks of the advances, Miriam is going to remember back when Ana blabbed about Camila being married to Daniel. Now why would that little girl say that, hmm?
I don't come down too hard on Miriam because through no fault of her own, she's lost her husband. They weren't having problems. They were wildly in love and expecting a baby. And now a year later her husband is lost to her. In the end, I think Miriam will make up Dan's mind for him, because I think she has too much self respect to want Dan to stay by her side for pity or charity.
If Miriam does set Dan free, I hope Camila will not take him back with open arms and I don't think she will take him back with open arms, because both of them will know the reason he's there isn't because he loves her, but because Miriam rejected him.
While Rafa's advice is sound, I think he'd like Miriam and Daniel go back to Chile ASAP so Miriam won't read his book/come to the book party and find out about Camila & Dan's story.
However, I think somehow Miriam is going to get her hands on a copy of Rafa's book and read for herself how she lost her husband. When she reads the book, she will understand Dan is lost to her and she will let him go. That's just speculation on my part, but I think Rafa's book will be the stake driven through the heart of the Daniel/Miriam marriage.
Anita, Thanks for clearing up that part of the fairy tale. Trolls eh? I must have missed that because Mr Mena and I were floored by the Fairy Tale Dan came up with!
I forgot to mention my astonishment that Miriam got extra ornery last night.. the lady has a temper. If I am not mistaken, she er tossed [I say threw] the necklace at Dano. She also told him that any little provocation has him running to aid Camila et al at the La MQ.
Mr Mena had a comment that I forgot to include. He wants to know when Dio's word became the Gospel truth to Nutty Nat?
Acknowledgements of course to 5 Ft who provided the Mr Recap title, clever recapper that she is. (Kick Kick, 5 Ft, take your bow already!)
I also think that Camila will take Dan back. If he returns, it won't be simply because Miriam gave him the boot. The only reason Dan was with M is because of her fake health problem. So if she finds out the truth and doesn't keel over, he is free at last of her. Camila knows that Dan has always said he loves her. Just how true that is, given that actions speak louder than words, is debatable, but I think Camila believes in his love.
I don't fault Miriam for being in the position that she is in at all. Her personality just sets my teeth on edge and it's hard to get past. I like her a lot more now that she is being more assertive.
Interesting theory on the book being the frijole spiller, but I think it has to happen faster than that. It would be some enlightening reading for Maid Miriam whenever she gets to it, for sure.
Anita: OK, now he understands, money talks ... he knows about how that can turn a teenager-from-hell into a soon-to-be-ordained saint.
Though I was, am, and will be (at least until she kills someone) a New Girl supporter...some of your best zings were at her expense:
“feel the friendship” (I think Vivi and few others here have felt it from the first day that she wandered onto the set)
"(except for the barnacle that is NewGirl)"
very clever stuff.
My scenario for Miriam's final enlightenment:
The weekend return to Chile actually takes place. In the airport Miriam spies a book in the gift shop.
"Hey, you didn't tell me that your friend Rafael wrote a book!"
They settle in in First Class...she begins to read...
Carlos
Raced through the comments also, but have to bring up that, Vivi, you were right and I was wrong about Natalia. I really thought she was catching on re: dear old dad, but now it looks like she's right back where she left off before she had a slight beanie moment:)
Loved Miriam's expression during Dan's Daily Tall Tale when he said Camila was angry at him for lying. Miriam's "Ohh, she didn't like that you lied to her for her protection!" Her facial expression somehow conveyed "air quotes" around the word 'protection' to me. LOL
What Mariano found hard to believe about Isadora and the drops was that it was some type of witchcraft. Rosario had said, "she's probably using witchcraft on him." Mariano does not find it difficult at all to believe Isadora is capable of poisoning Cayetano - just the witchcraft part.
I love how the SITs (Scoobies-In-Training) - Rodolfo, Piedad, Eleuterio, Dorotea and Hipolito - are ready to jump in and follow up on anything (clues/info) they can in order to help bring Dio down! These employees know the real meaning of considering their coworkers/patrones "a family."
re the Avances:
Yes, Camila should tell Miriam the truth but she should say "WE" fell in love, not "I" fell in love ... then let Dan and Miriam deal with that! Hoping, but not really expecting her to do it.
Soyyo
I don't think Dan will be going back to Chile. Best laid plans in TN's always go awry for many reasons.
I hope Ileana gets out of there before Hissadora catches on about the missing poison. She's the only suspect because she is the only one who caught her administering that stuff.
Marta- I wish Nat had truly opened her eyes, but she's in the same Club of Fools as Gussy (ex member) and Cayetano. They need to actually see it with their own eyes to believe it.
But there are still way too many beanie moments in this crime drama. It's so keystone kops the way they agonize over a set of fingerprints that could be pulled from any doorknob or whiskey glass. The whole comedy about the combination on Dio's briefcase cracks me up, too. If they have that number, why aren't they over there cracking it open. But good for Ileana for purloining the telltale drops. The ignorant Hissa keeps putting plain water in his beverage. At some point, he will emerge from his stupor and wonder WTF. I can't wait. I forsee complete reconciliation with the former Snobby Beech Rocio. Two flawed individuals who have suffered their comeuppance . They'll have something to bond over in their golden years.
Do we suppose that somehow, Miriam and the budgekin (and Caridad, of course) will be on that plane and Dan will not? Caridad still hasn't had a chance to spill her frijoles about MM's fatal condition.
Dio has been very good about not leaving any tangible evidence around. He's a failure in every other way but this. The Justice League needs at least one concrete thing before they can accuse him of something/anything legally-- giving the cops cause to obtain prints or search his house.
The phone records between him and Julian are floating around in Aculco/Metepec somewhere; the paperwork for the retirement funds are all under his control; as are the passports proving he's a con man/fraud; and the good guys don't know who the developers are or that Dio is *this* close from being thrown in jail for fraud by them. If at least one of these things can fall the hands of the good guys, then they can finally start the ball rolling on Dio's downfall.
Our girl Cam has been listening to the audience and suggested that Luzma get another type of therapy if what she's doing now isn't working.
As for Gussie, I think women's prisons are better than men's, but no wonder Camila is so desperate to get her out of there.
LVX, Love your lines: "The ignorant Hissa keeps putting plain water in his beverage. At some point, he will emerge from his stupor and wonder WTF." I can't wait either.
Only three more weeks? I will miss AB and all of you.
As we are in the final capitulos I find it both annoying and exciting to watch and witness how they are bringing the many loose ends to closure.
I always found Dio's laugh annoying but his hyena laugh after his conversation with Glady's son was repulsive. Which makes me wonder how on this board which is dedicated to snark, he has gotten away with not being tagged with a evil nickname other than "El Diablo" which I think is really is kinda cute since "little devil" is what I call my cat when he's mischievous). Anyway, just venting my frustration with him and his mocking laugh.
Let me take this opportunity to say that I don't like shortening that to "Dio" which is Italian for God. My sixth sense says that he will get more repulsive before he meets his Karmageddon.
BTW, I almost named my boy cat "Mephistopheles" because he looks like a little devil, but an atheist friend talked me out of it.
The Giggling Goon
The Laughing Lout
The Snickering Sneak
The Cackling Criminal
There was a character in Corazon Valiente who we called D3, D4, etc. as we added more bad ‘D’s to his name (Dastardly Dad, etc.) Now we’re doing the same with a character in Amores Verdaderos who we call F4 (Failed Furry Fornicator..). Dio could definitely be a multiple ‘D’.
~ posted by not-a-dan-fan. (lol)
*p.s. Am I done ranting yet? Hell, no! There is more to come, I'm sure, soon enough in the episodes that follow...
~ posted by not-a-dan-fan.
UA - I also had conflicting thoughts about referring to such an evil man as "Dio". But remembered that I grew up in a neighborhood where there were a lot of gang members named Jesus.
So I figured it was just me overreacting.
And if the custom is to exchange them, as Dan-n-Cam did, then you wear the one with your partner's initial. I have know Mexicans who did this. So wouldn't Miriam know that Dan would wear the one with the 'C' and his story about intending to give it to Camila doesn't make sense. And couldn't she tell from looking at it that it was a half of a shape. (Just guessing here, but maybe the shape of Nebraska?) And why didn't she ask him why it didn't have a box, like a new necklace normally has? Or why he never gave it to her, if it was just a platonic thing, representing trust not love? If that were the case, he could still give it to her with Miriam present before they leave, couldn't he?
I don't know if Miriam bought that load of ... wait for it ... bull :) that Daniel was selling and we didn't get to see her response at the end of the conversation.
Luzma...I don't know...rapidly losing my interest.
Natalia...I'd like to slap that dopey look off her face only because I will really have to tighten the vise on my head when she finally see the light one day before the final episode. Not. Believeable.
My questions: will Cayetanestupido and Grateful Gussie make it out alive? They're both Blockheads, but they don't deserve to die, especially at the hands of the perpetually inappropriately dressed Hissadora and the Evil Dion.
Carlos...really, really love your idea about MM getting the truth while on the plane to Chile. What a wonderful idea!
Not a Dan Fan...I hear and understand your frustration!
No insights from me...just a huge thank you to Mena!!!
Fatima
All I could think of was Dan and his two wives. No one could make up their minds what to do about it.
At one point, the two women it seems are ready to kick the two-timing b**tard to the curb and pledge eternal friendship to each other and are going to go away together. (Are you listening Dan? Watch out. AND, not-a-Dan-fan...here's a solution you might accept!)
Sadly it doesn't quite end that way for the principals.
Traveling Lady, was it you or LXV/Agnes who posted that link to the novela from Spain? Thank you! I'm going to investigate that one.
Fatima
Salinas surely looked handsome even during the few episodes I saw of his last story. I'm looking forward to that and really, really hope that this AB group of posters will be there, too!
Thanks, Anita. :))
Fatima
But because Dan bought them together and they way they exchanged them, I was interpreting this necklace as part of a set, like those that are two halves of a heart. And in that case, you wear the other person's initial. I have seen these in Mexico, both for sale and some people wearing them who I have asked about it because it wasn't their initial. I don't know if other Latino cultures also do this, but Dan knew about it, so I'm thinking that they do it in Chile, too.
But if you are right (sharper eyes than mine!), and it is a scroll and not the half of something, then M wouldn't know it was part of a set of matching necklaces. she could still ask those other questions about it, though.
However, that show and most of them on that site don't seem to have captions and I really rely on them, so I'm not sure how well that would work for me.
Fatima
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