Friday, March 15, 2013
Amor Bravío #146 (Uni 141) Thu 3/14/13 Amor Despedido
Labels: bravio
I'm glad Agustina got out, though I was almost certain Dio had told Omar not to let her leave. It's not like Omar would have refused the order. Doesn't seem like the kind of oversight Dio would make.
Too bad she's just going to end up locked up again tomorrow night, from the looks of it.
I'm very worried for Pablo and Luzma. What could she possibly want to tell that confianzuda Mayelen? I'm starting to feel a little annoyed at how easily Luzma seems to give up happiness. I know she went through something horribly traumatic but c'mon! Pablo loves her, she could try a little harder.
Can't believe Dan is actually going back to Chile, I thought Abram would stop them from returning since he stated he didn't want Miriam to go back while he was in jail.
I'm just shocked and appalled by the way Dio treated Aggie! He is despicable. I feel bad for poor Agustina. I couldn't stand her at times but she does not deserve to be tied up like a dog.
Things are just getting worse and worse and some of those advances they showed on Wed night looked intense! Can't wait for Friday night's episode!
Luzma and Pablo need to get their stuff straight. Leoncio is such a pig, he would traumatize his own niece. He is ALWAYS the worst of the villains in every novella he is in! (cough*bouffy*cough)
Looks like almost the end of the line for Agust.I hope there is some redemption.
Que Bonito Amor is looking better and better everyday!
-Charly <3
El Diablo will only get nastier from this point on. We have to hope that Nat will catch him in a moment like that.
Last night's scene with Augustina was terrifying, even though I knew that she would wriggle out of it. The lesson here: Do not live under the same roof as a suspected murderer! Que estupida! (If I said that right, I'm learning TN speak.)
I'm hoping that Amanda's phone call to Omar, and what she overheard, will be the catalyst for Natalia's return to her senses.
I'm not ready for this TN to end, but I'm past ready for Natalia and Miriam to find out what's going on.
Poor Gussy! She is really paying for her willful blindness now. And of course, all this is going down just when Cam is going away on a possible overnight trip—exactly the reason why Cam was hesitant to go away in the first place. I was so relieved when she got free, but biting my nails like Al when she ran into Omar. Judith is way too sweet to work for Dio. He’s doing her a favor by firing her.
Dan was not happy to see that Mariano is going with Cam on that possible overnight trip.
I was impressed by the restraint Cam and Dan showed by not letting that kiss turn into something else…with a bed so close by. But that was some kiss! Very much like their first one—even down to that bit where Cam pulls away a little and Dan pulls her back in. Of course, that first time, she ran away right after, but this time it’s Dan who walked away.
ITA- That wedding photo Dan took will end up in Miriam’s hand. Bad move on Dan’s part. But I enjoyed that walk down memory lane of the beautiful wedding.
As for PabLuz—Pablo was sounding like a battered spouse, making up that excuse about walking into a door. Luzma shouldn’t give up. It’s time for her AND Pablo to start seeing the psychologist together.
I was pleased to see Agustina show some grit, even in her nervous way. She is going to need it tonight. Was I imagining things or was Daniel back at the ranch once again in the previews, the scene where the police come for Aggie?
Great scenes between Daniel and Camila. You can feel the pain. SN has done such an excellent job of looking worn out physically and emotionally. She needs some relief so badly.
I mentioned before that in El Manantial, there is a similar need for a young woman, played by Adela Noriega, to recover from a rape in order to have a relationsip with her spouse (who is that case is related to the rapist). There's no psychologist, this was a few years ago, only the violent end of the rapist at the hands of someone who contributed to his prestige. This makes me wonder if the resolution will be the death of Leo, who surely seems likely to escape prison, will be at the hands of Piedad. Piedad has already atoned for defending Leo early on, but as Luzma's parent, perhaps she will have to do the deed for Luzma to have any peace. This is so not a spoiler and assumes that a violent end of Leo is Luzma's only hope.
The photo in the back pocket. This tn will live up to its creative and unusual plotting if this is NOT the way that Miriam gets to the truth.
Luzma is displaying classical signs of sexual assault PTSD, and it won't just go away. It will probably only get worse, and she thinks she's permanently damaged goods---never be able to satisfy Pablo so why not have Mayelen "take care" of him? Typical assault survivor mentality. So c'mon writers, let's have some scenes of Luz and Pablo with a therapist working on this because that's the ONLY way it can be healed. This is absolutely not about the victim "trying a little harder." In fact, that's what sexual assault survivors always tell themselves: "try harder." This trauma is buried deep in the nervous system. It's biological as well as psychological. She'd probably cut off her arm if it would cure her, but nothing except a lot of long, hard emotional work will. My heart breaks for her.
Just want to say that I hope that Aggie runs into Dan and tells him what happened. Then he would probably stay.
By the way, I thought Dan was going to stay until justice was served and Miriam was going back to Chile with the baby. But now he's leaving.
I'm sure he would welcome an excuse to beat Iagho to a pulp, though.
Like you, I feared at first that Dio was going to smother Agustina with that pillow. Fortunately, the writers still wanted her around. Even though it looks as if she'll wind up in the carcel, at least temporarily, she may be safer there than at Dio's. Alas, Camila may not be so safe. Since Gussie's cell phone is still at Dio's, he's almost certain to see the message Camila texted to Gussie. Indeed, he could pretend to be Gussie and text her back and arrange to meet her and try to blackmail her into saving her mother by giving him La Malquerida. Then again, I'm not sure that scenario is so likely--since he's already called the police and made an accusation against her (presumably for the insurance fraud), I'm not sure there's a way of his undoing that without implicating himself. So perhaps his goal now is not LMQ but just Camila herself, if need be by force. Yuck! Surely there must be a TN rule that the protagonista cannot be kidnapped twice in the same TN? For that matter, is there ever more than one rape, or has Luzma used up the quota?
Speaking of Luzma, well, I'd rather not speak of Luzma. Others have already weighed in on what's happening. I've got nothing useful to add.
Vivi, ITA about Pablo feeling useless and that being something men hate. I just hope he continues to resist NG, in spite of her and, apparently, Luzma's efforts.
Not sure what to make of Rodolfo's vow to kidnap Natalia if Yago makes her unhappy. Did the writers have him say that as foreshadowing or are they just playing with us again?
As for Dan/Cam, the writers have given us two possible ways for Miriam to find out. Which one will do it? Or will she need both? Or neither? This TN has been so full of surprises....
What would make sense would be for Daniel to talk to Mariano about protecting Camila and Augustina, since it now also involves protecting his own interests in La Buenaventura. However, I don't think that will happen.
If it were up to Dan; he'll never leave Mexico, much less LMQ but Cam wants him gone for what he provokes in her and Miriam wants to be in her own land and that's the best way to keep her calm -- but the Chile trip is easier said than done -- we'll see who really end up going ...
Pablo is the best man ever -- love this guy -- no matter what, his love for LuzMa is still intact.
Rodo (just made his first appearance in Corazon -- so hot)best potential boyfriend a girl can hope --so loyal and true--too bad Natonta took a detour to Yago.
What was Miriam's problem complaining on and on about Camilla not waiving goodbye?
Dan doesn't like Mariano around Camilla for whatever reason -- too bad dude; you chose your undead wife now live with your decision and move on -- but I still love you until the bitter end.
Myo-
So does Luzma think that Pablo is like a cute sweet puppy that just didn't work out so she is going to find a good home for him?
Carlos
Poor Judith. She did not deserve to be fired for letting her patrona out of a room. Sheesh. Being fired or leaving a job without a reference is a huge obstacle to re-employment in Mexico, much worse than in our culture. I don’t know if this is a TN convention or just a particularity of this one, but the way people treat the servants in AB is a dead give away to a character’s character. I hope Judith connects with Augustina somehow, but I doubt it.
In this episode and last night’s I saw several new places or camera angles on the MalQ. What are they doing? Holding out on us?
Vivi, Pablo IS a battered spouse. Jus’ sayin’. But he is also a lot like a puppy. (LOL, Carlos!) So is she. And their love is puppy love. I have warmed up to this couple, but they are still the part that I FF through the second time I watch. They just don’t have enough depth to hold my interest.
That photo will end up in Miriam’s hands. Oh yes, it will.
Anita, yes, I had myself quite a good time the other night. I thought I was alone. ;)
Today's discussion is so thoughtful about the possible outcomes for the many interesting threads of the story and the lives of many of the characters. I actually want to know what becomes of these people.
I am worried that PEAM may be mindless and shallow in comparison. I will savor the rest of this TN and settle for the joy of looking at TMBMOTP each night...
Mr 5ft we all know is a gem.
I'm sure Dio didn't advise Omar o Judith, so why should he be mad at them?
I just hope he doesn't read Cam's text to Aggie. No telling what he would plan knowing Cam is on the road.
Leo dead would probably help in Luzma's recovery but Luzma killing him I don't think would, she is too religious to have that on her conscience. I would like that Pablo did it though.
Dan y Mir are going back to their house in town for now. He still has things to clear up before they go back to Chile, which of course will never happen.
Some have speculated that Omar might "turn." For the first time, I think he might too. He seemed to notice Dio was coming unhinged when he fired the maid.
I sure hope Luzma's plan for Mayalen is not to sic her on Pablo. Maybe her plan has something to do with his work. But whatever it is, Mayalen will use it as an op to get closer to Pablo.
Wondering where Dan plans to hide the photo.
There will be lots of time to discuss this on Easter weekend, when the Karmageddon entry will be posted.
I am fascinated by Omar's brooding mysteriousness. Oh, the secrets he could tell ... he knows just about everything bad Dio has done.
I wonder who has Augustina's cell phone, Omar or Dio? It was odd for him to know what was in or not in a lady's purse, I thought. Who rummaged through it, Omar or Dio? What else did they find? ;)
Camila asked the other night how could they ever prove Dio's involvement with the virus. Omar is how.
"But she's the one who feels she should be able to get over it already and is putting all this uneeded pressure on herself. And by doing that, she's driving a wedge between her and Pablo that doesn't need to be there"
Vivi in DC, I love your comments! You read my mind and articulate the things I can't say.
I think this is a point in the story where I now FULLY understand what all of you mean by tightening the beanie (I have this image of a beanie with a vise grip on it). Agree with all of the Pablo/Luzma comments so far. What bothers me is why the issues weren't dealt with SOONER versus now that we are going into ultimos capitulos. Are we really to believe that the New Girl is really going to make in roads into any type of relationship with Pablo? I'm assuming this story line has some Public Service Value. If so, then why not show this couple working through the problem together? Why not show them in therapy together. If men in the US are so reluctant to go to joint therapy, I can only imagine that men in Latin America are even more reluctant (yes, I know...a broad generalization, but you know what I mean). The PSA would be so much more powerful if we had seen more active work on the part of the couple to address the scars that Luzma will have for the rest of her life. Abuse on any level is difficult to overcome. I think the writers missed an opportunity here.
I have to give credit to Cesar Evora. He sickened me last night. Such horrible lessons for Agustina to learn. I still believe that she doesn't deserve death, but it worries me.
Natalia...such a Super Blockhead. Yes, she looked quite nice the other evening with her hair up and channeling Hissadora with the dress. My first impression was : Ok...you look quite nice and a little more grown up. My second impression was: Ok. You look like Wilma Flintstone (maybe even Pebbles) and all you need is a huge raw bone sitting on the top of your head.
Opening one's eyes can be so very, very painful, can't it?
I certainly hope to follow this wonderful group to the next story.
Fatima
Love to you all!! I'm off to watch the episode now.....
I hope she has a club made from a T-Rex or bronto bone to club Hissadora with if it comes to that.
Maybe Judith can go to LMQ for a job and become a substitute Scooby - I bet she also knows about quite a few of Dio's skeletons, having had access to his 'closets.'
I agree that killing el cerdo won't free Luzma, but maybe if Pablo does it in defense of someone (Luzma/Piedad) and becomes emotionally upset at having killed, Luzma will help HIM. If she's taking care of Pablo and helping him through his feelings of guilt, etc, her mind will be on caring for HIM and maybe she would be helping herself without realizing it.
I hope she doesn't "offer" Pablo up on a platter to Mayelen. That is SO a TN cliche - sacrificing one's happiness for the sake of the other! And it's not even what will make Pablo happy, she's just blinded by her anguish at possibly making him suffer for her inability to "get over it" - as though that were so easy.
Soyyo
Fatima, I was thinking of maybe upgrading my beanie to a crash helmet. :)
Carolina...LOL! That would be SO much more appropriate...crash helmet versus beanie! :))
I've said this several times already, but with only 20 capitulos to go, this "Viewer" will be VERY unhappy if Paquita's Rodolfo is treated as "Second Best".
Natalia Blockhead Ferrer, does NOT deserve Rodolfo. That is just not fair...not fair, I tell you!
Fatima :)
I didn't think Dio would kill Agustina. He always has others do his dirty work. Frankly, I think he's a coward underneath.
It seemed to me Omar was, perhaps?, deliberately holding the phone so Amanda could hear what was going on.
I was actually angry at the writers last night when Dio started ranting at Omar and Judith about Agustina's escape. If you expect someone to be held prisoner, you could at least tell your main henchperson. This, along with the suddenly reading his briefcase password outloud in a previous ep, is sloppy writing. Dio has consistently done stupid things, but it was always out of arrogance, not stupidity. I also feel the pacing has changed--abruptly. I assume to get everything in before the end.
Loriloo: love your idea about the Pablo/Luz/NG situation.
Nanette
My actual point: does anyone know if there is going to be an previously-aired TN starting to repeat in the afternoons within the next month or so? I've become leery of the two new ones coming since no one seems to likes that Meija guy's stuff.
Niecie, I don't think that Dan will hide the photo. I think that there will be a LaMal emergency and Dan will do a quick charro suit presto chango and leave the jeans with said photo hanging out in plain sight.
Also, it would be interesting if they don't leave LaMal because Gussie comes driving up. Miriam could go to Camila's house for some reason and see the photos all over the floor.
Or Cardiac will get curious and start listening to Dan and baby more closely. One day she'll be doing the wash and will drop the basket. Mir will demand to see what she's hiding in her hand, and voila!
Wow, what an episode and add me to the list of those concerned about Agustina. I hope she's "safe" in jail but Dio slipped in there too.
Also thanks to Paquita and Mena for your recaps.
When Dio hired Dan, didn't he want him to kill someone, I just can't remember who.
Vivi, I know you remember.
I really did gasp at seeing Aggie tied up. What will she do? TG she got outta there.
Didn't Dio want Dandres to watch out for and shoot himself on sight? That was the best bit of absurdity of this whole show. I think he also just wanted Dan to feed him info, and he did bring him some inconsequential stuff once or twice.
If the El Pastaje is selling off its herd, shouldn't the sinister developers already be sending Dionisio a text that, sorry, they've already got a rancho and they have no use for the Malquerida or the Buenaventura?
And right, Dionisio, every criminal mastermind fires his servants, letting them know that the reason he's letting them go is because they didn't keep his wife locked up in the bedroom. The only reason both Dionisio and Isadora work as characters is because they are played so extraordinarily well. On paper, the characters stink--they're the klutziest villians ever.
Leoncerdo shot Daniel and Pablo in or around episode 65, if that helps.
As it is, they both have been very good at making sure there is no proof against them for the things the good guys are accusing them of. That is their strength. But in most other tns, the bad guys get away with a crap load of stuff, and the good guys are completely clueless about it all till the end. Our good guys are very well informed, and even have cops and lawyers involved (also something the good guys tend to fail to do in most tns). They just need to find some proof that stands up legally, or can't be intimidated (e.g. Dona Chonita).
And yes, CE and LC are great at what they do, which makes watching their villains extremely entertaining.
Tú que caminas a mi lado,
y sonríes al silencio cuando el día está nublado,
no permitas que me suelte de tu mano,
Que tu ausencia es un dolor que me hace daño.
Tú que sostienes la mirada,
cuando el miedo se desliza dentro de nuestras palabras,
tu mi mar, mi libertad, mi vida entera,
La mujer que yo soñé, mi compañera.
No pido más que amarte así,
hoy tengo el alma tan aprisionada a ti,
tú me das lo que yo quiero, tú que reinas en mis sueños,
mi luz, mi libertad, mis ganas de volar,
No pido más que amarte así,
hoy tengo el alma tan aprisionada a ti,
tú me diste nueva vida, y curaste mis heridas,
no pido mas
Tú que sostienes la mirada
cuando el miedo se desliza dentro de nuestras palabras,
tu mi mar, mi libertad, mi vida entera,
la mujer que yo soñé, mi compañera,
No pido más que amarte así,
Hoy tengo el alma tan encarcelada a ti.
tú me das lo que yo quiero
tú que reinas en mis sueños,
mi luz, mi libertad, mis ganas de volar,
no pido más que amarte así,
yo tengo el alma tan aprisionada a ti
tú me diste nueva vida, ya no me duele mis heridas,
no pido mas
“Si te Marchas” by Merche- sad love theme for Natalia and Yago
“Olvidarte Jamas” by Carlos José Macías Núñez- sad love theme for Cami and Dan
“Mil Vidas” by Carlos Macías and Fernanda Castillo- sad love theme for Cami and Dan
“Paranormal” by Original Banda El Limón- love theme for Piedad and Hipolito
“Cuando Manda el Corazon” by Vicente Fernandez- main theme song for Cami and Dan and the tn
“Tan Sólo Pido” by Samo- love theme for Luis and Cami
“Te Digo Adios” by Laura Pausini- sad love theme for Miriam and Dan
“Jamás Abandoné” by Laura Pausini- love theme for Miriam and Dan
“Divina Tú” by Carlos José Macías Núñez- love theme for Cami and Dan
“El Hombre Más Hermoso” by Ale Rojas- love theme for Dan and Cami
“Amarte Así” by Carlos José Macías Núñez- sad love theme for Cami and Dan
“Te Odio” by Sofi Mayen- love/hate theme for Ximena and Al
“Quisiera” by Silikon- sad love theme for Pablo and Luzma
“Volver a Creer” by Silikon- love theme for Pablo and Luzma
“Qué no Daría” by David Cavazos- love theme for Rafa and Cami
“Algo de Ti” by David Cavazos- love theme for Rafa and Vivi
“Amando sin Amar” by Juan Pablo Manzanero- sad love theme for Mariano and Cami
“Tu Perfume” by Carlos José Macías Núñez- love theme for Mariano and Cami
“Todo No Es Amor” by Merche- ironic (sad with a bouncy tune) love theme for Natalia and Yago
“Quererte me Hace Bien” by Original Banda El Limón- love theme for Rodolfo and Natalia
The most impressive kid I've seen in a tn was Matias, in Montecristo, who was supposed to be about 10 years old, played by Carlos Hays. I don't think he's done anything since (and probably a teenager now), but he was great. (I didn't watch Abismo, but I did the first few eps with the trio that played the protagonistas as children. They were good.)
UA--There's a suggestion for a future Weekender--annoying little kids vs. kids who are really good actors. I can't believe that the writers write them to be intentionally annoying or the directors that can't direct them. Ah well, what do I know of tn productions (except what I see).
Just funnin' around and enjoying the recap and comments, no offense.
TN4ever
As I said last week, I am on hiatus for weekend topics today because of St Patrick's Day obligations. Due to time constraints I think the priority needs to be Monday night's article, which will be ready on time.
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Five Foot--Primero, thank you Mr. Cinco Pie for letting the Mrs. participate in this grand Spanish Support Group exercise. May she continut to make culture-appropriate dinners for you. Segundo, thank you 5ft.Latina for the terrific recap, starting right off with 'face-sucking duo.' Yuck yuck yuck.
Poor Gussie. Did she just stand there and let him tie her up? She's surely got some gumption left in her, unless Omar had to hold her down. Shiver, shiver. That ploy with the pillow was meant to scare Gussie, not us. We knew all the tn ploys.
Can't wait to see what it is that keeps Dan et al in Mexico.
Sure hope Caridad does something with that information she heard.
Nuff said by others about the fake pedida dinner. I wonder what fabulous dishes Gussy ended up having fixed and what was for dessert.
Carlos--you continually give us new ways to think about things and in so few words. Here's to your health - Arriba Tofu.
I couldn't bear that kiss last night. It was just too emotional. It *was* wrong of Camila to ask for it, but I think she wanted Dan do know that pase lo que pase she does love him, physically and every other way.
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