Friday, March 08, 2013

Amores Verdaderos #83 Fri 3/8/13 The Solis Punching Bag makes it through another day as a free man thanks to his mommy, A child you love can't keep a secret, but at least Bea and Guillo are safe.

will edit it later but here is the rough draft...

Refritis:
Leo mangling Bea with knife on her neck… lights go out. Leo goes out to check and when he opens door he is facing Dances’ gun… However, Leo manages to trip Dances to floor… Leo runs to Bea and uses her as shield.


Both Dances and Frankie point to him but just freeze there.

Paula is at hospital seeing Anibal, she manages to tell Anibal he has a 3rd daughter but tries several times to tell him her name, but he has another heart attack and Big Angel shoves her out with threats she will be responsible for Anyballs’ death.

Lo Nuevo:

Leo threats Bea will pay if they approach him. Meanwhile he insults Dances calling him a “sopilote”(bum/nobody) who will never have his woman. Dances barks back ‘when did she become your property?!’

Frankie tries to negotiate with Leo, saying if Bea does not want to be with Leo he can’t force her. Being married to her does not give him right to take her against her will. He kidnapped her. Somehow Frankie is getting closer to Leo as he tells Leo about Bea and Guillo being his family. When Leo stands up repeating the name ‘Guillo’ (surely he has a soft spot in that disturbed heart for his son), Frankie manages to grab the knife and punch Leo into the floor and then Dances starts using Leo as a punching bag with gun in hand. Dances asks Leo now where is your ‘courage’? Frankie has Bea in his arms. Frankie and Bea leave, while Dances tells an unconscious Leo(Dances is pushing his foot on Leo’s head pinching him on floor) to start praying, because maybe he won’t come alive from ‘this one’ (then scans around with his eyes… hmmm, maybe he intends on fulfilling the prediction personally).



Back at hospital, Vicky arrives, but does not recognize Paula as the piano teacher since Paula has scrubs complete with her face mask. Angel feels bad for having lied to Vicky about feeling ill, prays God for forgiveness because she did not prevent the confrontation with Senora Paula. Vicky feels awful since she could have avoided the confrontation with Adriana, then left for just a couple minutes and see what happened (the 2nd heart attack).

Doctor comes by tells her Anyballs is not conscious, Vicky wants to see him for a minute anyways so the Doc gives in. Doc and Vicky leave.

A nurse comes by and recognizes Angel as the model on the tv commercial and asks for an autograph. He responds ‘that is not me, I am Ms Vicky B’s bodyguard, THAT is me! (with a bit of pride in his tone in the end, how easily he forgot he was just apologizing to God for being a bad boy). Poor nurse, she was left alone siging and enchanted with just seeing him walk away.



Back at B/Arriaga apartment, Lili is worried about what Bea is going through. Cris tells her ‘mirror yourself in that so you will choose wisely a good man for a husband for yourself’. They discuss Frankie as being a good possibility. Lili’s hopes get deflated when Cris tells her she confirmed with Bea that Frankie is married. Lilli is not hungry. It was a strange day. Many things happened, wants to know how Adri is doing after she found the stones in her daughter’s grave. Cris gets miffed at Lilli worrying about Adriana. She lies saying she is worried that Angel has not reported in all day. Lilli tells her when they were at cemetery she felt like hugging Cris. Cris gets her spirits up and they embrace in a nice loving hug.



At hospital chapel, Adri is praying to the virgin that no one knows her sorrows like her. But only ANyballs can answer her questions. Please don’t take him away yet. Will not be able to forgive him, ever.



At Anyballs bed, Vicky is crying, tells him he is a very strong man, fight for your life. We all need you. Know lately we have had differences, but my love for you is intact. ‘I know you will talk to Adriana and will clear her doubts. What happened with Lucia, where she is…’ you can’t go leaving my sister sunk in the anguished darkness.



Back at B house, Niki is handling the stress in her favorite way, with a multi-level tray of cakes and cookies with chocolate syrup. In comes Roy with wine and freezes at the sight of her swallowing cake pieces whole… she comes up with the excuse of her stress. Grandpa dying, family breaking down… Roy mentions family might fight for the Anyballs inheritance. Niki does not appreciate the comment, in her own special vocabulary… ‘zero que ver con tu comentario, neta!...’ he is sure Anyballs put her as his universal heir(even adding his own vocabulary referring to Niki as Anyballs’ ‘consen’ (consentida))… Niki gets even more irritated. ‘que onda con tu planeta? Se salio de orbita o que?’ She says its real bad taste to talk money when someone is so gravely ill. She does not care about the money, only that ‘mi tatito’ stays alive. Roy pushes on, saying he would love for Anyballs to be there at their wedding… Niki pulls away and he stops pushing buttons. But immediately is miffed at her for constantly rejecting him. She apologizes (FOR WHAT???!!), feeling ill, he gets a bit slurpy kissing her face. I understand. I have loved you all my life. You are no. 1 in my rank list, flaquita. (OH PLEEEEZZ!!! Someone hand me over a puke bag please!!)



Frankie and Bea on street by Leo’s mom’s place, saying Dances and Leo are taking too long. They are worried of The grannie not turning over Guillo if Leo takes too long. Suddenly, Leo’s car comes with Leo driving and Dances in back seat. Frankie gets Leo out and drags him around some more. Dances warns Leo ‘you know what you need to do, you better do what I told you, or you won’t have time to talk about it.’ Inside, Guillo is asking Grannie when will dad come for him. Loud door knocks, and Grannie hides Guillo and looks worried hesitating to open the door.



Back at B/A apartment, Cris and Lilli still worried. Paula arrives. Needed to talk to someone. Cris asks if she heard about what happened to Bea. Pau asks where was she. When Cris tells her Leo had kidnapped her, Paula goes beserk. Grabs Lilli and yells that Leo is very violent, will kill her!!. Cris tells her that Dances got a call and he and Frankie went to get her. And if Angel knew about it he would have gone along, but he is too busy, been MIA all day, maybe he has been doing the powwow with his boss lady. Paula tells Cris he is at the clinic. Cris gets alarmed, Paula clarifies ANyballs had a heart attack. Paula cries saying everytime something is going on with my kids, I am with Anyballs!!. She confirms to Cris and Lilli that Bea and Frankie are her children. Cris and Lilli’s jaws are all over the carpet, they are in shock.



Back to Guillo’s Grannies… Bea comes in asking for Guillo. GUillo comes out of hiding and hugs her. Then he notices her bumps and bruises all over her face and gets sad. Leo, Frankie and Dances are also standing around. Bea asks him if he noticed who else came to see him. Frankie hugs Guillo very lovingly. Guillo tells him he has news, his parents got back together. Frankie gets sad and tells him that his dad (Leo) has something to tell him.

Dances, who is standing behind Leo, pokes him with the gun and reminds him on what they agreed. Then steps away. Leo greets Guillo his usual way (Cachorro), then tells him he and Bea were talking and realized they can’t be together. Guillo is sad. He insists he loves them both. Leo hugs him, Guillo is still denying it as true. Then begins to cry as Leo explains it is normal to get sad when parents split. You are brave, you just have to work with it. There will be changes but it will be like when we went to watch your (futbol) games together. IT will be same, but after the game you will go home with Mom. Bea comes over and tries to console a devastated Guillo. Slowly you will get used to it, and all you need to remember that for your dad and me you will always be the center of our lives. Bea asks Guillo to kiss dad goodbye. Guillo hugs Leo as if he did not want to let go. Leo reminds him to think he is the son of Leo Solis. Frankie gets Guillo back off Leo, then tells him that Dances will take him to the car while Frankie and Mommy talk to dad. (Dances takes him away).

F: Now we will talk!

L: I did my part already.

F: Yeah, you returned Guillo to Bea. But what about all the years of abuse!, of violence you gave her! The hours of anguish she lived not knowing about her son?? And the time you had her kidnapped??!!

L: Look, lil’l BIL!!! I am fed up with you!

F: And to wrap it up…

L: What are you going to do now?

F: Call the police to accuse you for what you did to Bea, because kidnapping implicates jailtime!! (Grannie screaches in horror)



At hospital, Vicky tells Adriana that Anyballs will be alright. Doc says he will have meds for the rest of his life, he needs to stop smoking and do exercise, and most importantly, we have to avoid him any traumas/strong emotions.

Adri asks when Anyballs will be released. Doc says don’t know. He is still in ICU but recommend you all go get some rest. (Doc leaves)

Adri cannot be convinced in ‘waiting’. ‘I have waited 18 years, hasn’t that been enough? … it is easy for you to talk, because you have your daughter at your side.’ Vicky says she understands her anguish and also wants to know what happened to Lucia but don’t want my dad to die. I am sure you don’t either. Please, wait a bit longer. (Adri is not convinced and shoves Vicky’s hand away) alright, will wait, but let it be known I am doing it for you, not for him. (leaves)

Vicky asks Angel if it is so wrong/evil to ask Adri to wait. Angel says what is right and what is wrong/evil? You are fighting for the life of your dad. Ms Adriana is fighting to find her daughter. Both of you are right. But what is right and what is wrong/evil?



Back to Leo’s house, Grannie pieads to Frankie for Leo. ‘your son commited a crime and has to pay!’.. Grannie goes to Bea to try her luck with her.

L: IF what you want is to see me on my knees begging you, it won’t happen!

(to Bea) see what you caused?

B: No, you are wrong, Leo!! All I want is for you to forget about having me, please!! And to be a good dad for Guillo! That’s all I want!

(Frankie has to push Leo off Bea again)

L: Your brother and your ‘friend with rights/privileges’ really collected on me nicely! First they push me to return my son! And now you all want to lock me up in jail(al bote). (Frankie has heard enough)

F: You have been following Bea. You threatened her and ended up kidnapping her!! But it is over!

Grannie found her voice: My son is very impulsive (atrabancado), but he has done it all for love!!

F: Please, you asked for it on your own!

Frankie has the phone in his hand and begins to dial the police. Leo pushes his mother off from between them. Leo goes for the phone and he and Frankie begin to wrestle. Grannie grabs a huge vase(nice attention to detail on props staff, the flowers in it are plastic, dollar store flowers, and cheap vinyl curtains with flowers on them) and smashes it on Frankie’s head and back, leaving him unconscious and yells at Leo to run away(he kisses her forehead and runs out), while Bea tends to Frankie, yelling at Grannie ‘what did you do?? What did you do, Senora??! Grannie replies ‘he is my son!!’. Frankie is unconscious. (what?? No blood with that huge heavy vase?? Heads bleed from someone just blowing on them!!’)



At apartment, Paula has finished telling Cris and Lilli the story. Cris tells her you are a neverending surprise bag. But why do you always lie? Lilli asks why not tell them about Bea and Frankie being her children? … Paula says she was trying to protect Anyballs. Frankie is very impulsive and proud. He would never have forgiven him that she was lover of Anyballs, the owner of the house he works at. And he is still ignoring it. Can’t even imagine what will happen when he finds out. Door knocks. Guillo comes in, along with Dances. They ask him for Frankie. Guillo says Frankie stayed behind to talk to my dad. My parents will divorce. Then he talks to Paula as his ‘abue’ and goes to hug her. Dances notices Guillo calling Paula ‘Abue’, Lilli tells him she is Bea and Frankie’s mom.

Lilli takes Guillo away to show him some flowers (Gertrudis).

Paula asks Dances about Bea and Frankie. Dances says they must be at police station.



Meanwhile, Adriana is ringing bell at Paula’s place. Of course she is at Cristina’s. Adriana remembers Paula yelling at her at hospital ‘go ahead, spill your hatred!! But then don’t come looking for me to ask what happened with your daughter!!’



Back at Leo’s… Bea tending to Frankie with ice on a towel. Grannie is apologizing, she could not allow them to lock up her son in jail. He is all I have. ‘Betty, you know how much he loves you’.

B: Aida(Grannie’s name), Leo is ill. What he feels for me is not love. He had no right to take Guillo away from me and to retain me on threats and cruelty.

Grannie: Forgive him! You are a mother like me. IF my son goes to jail, what will I live for? … Frankie, we have been family.

F: Dona Aida, I can’t risk Leo harming my sister again.

G: But after all that has happened today, you think he will dare do anything again? Please have compassion! Please!!...

Bea tells a disbelieving Frankie that she won’t accuse Leo. Leo can be whatever… but she does not want to cause Guillo an even stronger pain when he finds out his dad is in jail.



Back at B house, Niki and Vicky talk about Anyballs health, don’t want him to die. He is strong. He will get better soon. Vicki changes the subject to Niki. A few days ago Roy did not exist, and now he ‘lives’ here. Niki says since they were kids Roy ‘lived’ in the house. They would take him along on trips. Vicki admits Roy is son of her best friend. Nice but a bit unstable. A bit superficial (on right track, you are way short there). And I don’t think he is the ideal man for you. I am even surprised about your relationship, you are even talking wedding. Niki says don’t hallucinate. He loves me and I do too. Let’s see what happens. Vicky says ok. Niki says everything is ok. She is happy Roy returned. Vicky asks what is Roy’s rank.. friend? Boyfriend? Or formal boyfriend (Fiancee)? … one more question. What about Guzman? .. Niki says what I lived before Roy is not important. Roy is my present and what I want to live. Vicky leaves it there and suggests they go downstairs to eat, takes some convincing but Niki gives in.



At B kitchen, Polita and JM talk about Anyballs getting through it. They are sad Anyballs won’t eat chicharron (Fried pork skins) anymore. Greek salad with goat cheese… yum!! .. JM and Tomasina talk a bit too much about Niki eating the salad being good for her. Polita asks what is wrong with Niki’s health that suddenly she is going to doctors and taking meds. Tomasina says that due to all the dieting Niki has not eaten very well lately. Polita comes up with her own diagnosis, worms in her stomach. Then Polita says she misses Frankie, hopes he is having a good time with his family. The subject moves on to Felipe’s debt, how did he pay? … not sure but not important. Polita makes a comment about Frankie’s hard times with Niki (la ricitos de oro), leaves pacing like a French maid with a ‘Con per mua’ (LOL!!)



Angel is on cell phone with Cristina trying to explain ‘the day he had’… with Anyballs heart attack. Cris asks how is he. Angel says better, but still in ICU and not allowing visitors. Cris tells him about the kidnapping rescue Frankie and Dances did. And now the gossip queen in Cris can’t resist telling him also about Paula’s secret being Frankie and Bea’s mom.



At dinner table, Niki is reluctantly eating. Niki notices Vicky is a bit sad.

Vicky tells her she loves her.



Meanwhile, Paula asks Dances to not tell anything to her son. Dances says ok. Lilli asks Dances if he is sure they made sure Guillo did not see anything violent. Dances says Frankie and him ensured Guillo would not realize the kind of father he has. Then Lilli asks about ANyballs. And gets a pain in her chest when Dances explains Anyballs got ill when he argued with Adri about her child. Right then Frankie and Bea arrive. Lilli gets worried. Bea says she is ok thanks to Frankie and Bea. Frankie tells Dances Bea won’t accuse Leo.

Bea thanks Dances for all he did. Dances says you can count on me always.

Paula comes out… greets Bea lovingly. Frankie has a grumpy face realizing now he will have to give Dances some explanations (his and Bea being Paula’s kids)



Previews: Adri struggles with Paula about the whereabouts of her daughter.

Dances tells Frankie if he finds out Leo tried anything with Bea

Angel and Vicky have an intimate moment.



NO AMORES TONIGHT!!! Por Ella soy Eva finale is 2 hrs long!!

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Comments:
Thank you marta for your recap. Another heavy, dark episode!
I was grateful for the small bit of comic relief, when JA denied he was the model in the ads. That was funny.

Sniveling Aida, begging them to let her son go….. I could not stand to watch that and had to FFWD thru that . She is worse than Leo because she enables him. How disgusting. And typical.

And Bea, like so many other victims of domestic violence, refuses to press charges. Sadly, this is so typical, too.

Did anyone else see Roy's thought bubble --- 'You don't care about money because you've got plenty of it while I have none.' Oh Nikki, please go find someone else to use to make Guzman jealous.

I loved the look on Dances' face when he found out who Paula's kids are. :-O

 

Marta: thank you for this most excellent recap. You captured everything perfectly! Liked your title for this epi.

Ugh, with Aida taking up for Leo and begging on her knees. She needs to get a grip and realize her son is no good and let him go to jail already. She can always visit with Guillo, I don't think Betty would withold Guillo from his grandma. Doris you are so right, she enables him.

Loved how Dances and Guzmi took Leo down. Too bad Aida clocked Guzmi with that vase. Now leo is in the wind and who knows what he'll try to pull next.

Can't stand Coy Roy, he really needs to go, he is just in it for the money. He could care less about Nikki. She got a major clue, when he went on and on about her being the heir apparant, but Anyballs would leave his money to Ms Vikki, before he would leave it to Nikki, Roy is an idiot! He is one little spoiled boy toy.

Loved that scene with the Angel and the nurse and her want of an autograph. And his denial, too funny. And her sighing as he was leaving, and his strut, too funny.

I feel bad for Adri, really I do, but she needs to back off some. Wait till Anyballs is more with it and then ask again without all the historonics. She may get more info with honey than vinegar. If I were her, I'd look at the surrounding scenery so to speak, find that doc again, or the nurse in attendance and try to get in the back way for info.

Surprised Pau2 spilled about her being Bea and Frankie's Mama. That was a surprise and Frankie's scowl. I don't know how they will ever be Mother and Son again. Loved Dances introducing himself. That was sweet.

Lili is getting that call of the blood thingy again, with Anyballs this time. I think it will be a long time before that relationship is ever revealed.
 

Wonderful recap Marta. Lots of great detail.

I rolled my eyes when Paula starting freaking out at Lili and Cris when she heard about Bea being kidnapped. I thought, "Great! Three hysterical women with no one to calm them down." I need there to be less hysterical women in this tn.

Bea is the only one who seems capable of holding herlsef together and keeping a cool head in a crisis. Although she made such a poor choice about letting Leo go free, but I understand her reasons. She will likely learn the hard way that this was a poor choice. It will be hard for Guillo, but his dad belongs in jail. Salsero looks like he will go ballistic once he learns Leo forced Bea to have sex with him.
 

I thought it was ironic that Paula was shaking Lili hard enough to rattle her teeth as Paula exclaimed, "He's so violent!"

I also disagree with 'protecting' Guillo from knowing what his dad has done. Isn't there an age appropriate way to explain that when somebody does something wrong, even a dad, there are consequences? He still loves you, none of us is perfect, and for the moment since Dad did 'equis' he's going to have this consequence.

TN4ever
 

Thank you, Marta. Just as I thought, Aida will protect her sonny boy even though she knows he is awful. This behavior is all to real to me. My daughter's ex mother-in-law actually told her that she hopes she finds someone who deserves her. I must say that the blue jacket looked great on Crazy Chris. Blue is her color. It was hard to watch Nikki scarfing down that tray of pastries. So bizaree...so sad.
 

Chris tells Paula, ''you are a neverending surprise bag''....yeah...how accurate !!! Chris always blurts out whatever thought enters her little head. This time she was right on the money.....neverending surprise bag !!! HA
 

It was very interesting and telling, how Guillo noticed and gently touched the injuries on Bea's face, yet he did not ask how they got there. He knows. Kids always know. They are not stupid. I feel so sorry for him.

Roy's father has cut him off financially, and the family is bankrupt anyway. Does BoyToyRoy think if he lands Nikki and her family money, he'll get a commission from his dad?

I hope Balzac surfaces soon, that Jean Marie finds him, and he is returned to Estefano. He has been on the streets too long.
Hang in there, Balzac! Be brave!


 

Doris and Susanlynn:

So agree with you both about leo and the enabling. Also Guillo the poor boy, he can't be more than eight years old, and you are right Doris, kids always seem to know.

I agree about poor Balzac the cute little puppy, even though he probably isn't but he is sooo cute. Can't wait for him to be found and cuddled and spoiled. I hope he made it through the mean streets ok.
 

OT: There was a comment made on the Por Ella board about times changing for the TN's on Monday. The cable grids are reading in current time. We have an upcoming time change Saturday night/Sunday morning, ya know turning your clock ahead one hour. Once the time change goes into effect, the cable grids will read normally. All TN's will be at their normal scheduled times. Just thought I'd let y'all know : )
 

Thanks Madelaine. Daylight Savings Time sure crept up on us, didn't it?!? I don't remember it starting so early in the season, a couple decades ago.
 

Yes, we have an early Easter this year , and I can't believe that it's already time to turn our clocks ahead. I'll appreciate more daylight in the evening, but I usually get up at 5.30 a.m. , so it will be a dark start for my days for awhile. You're right about kids knowing somehow when things are happening in the family even when they are young.
 

Marta - Thanks for all the details, especially the dialogue with Frankie and Leo.

TN4ever - "Isn't there an age appropriate way to explain that when somebody does something wrong, even a dad, there are consequences?" I sure hope so. Poor Bea trying to maintain Leo as a good father in Guillo's eyes. But Leo will be a lousy influence on Guillo if the boy is not made aware that while his dad may love him he also does bad things to others and has a sickness.

I felt sad for Nikki eating those cakes. They should've let her go to the hospital.

The nurse wanting Arriaga's autograph too funny. He said I am Senora Balvanera's bodyguard with such satisfaction. Wondering whether or not deep down he still wants to return to being a rancher.

Guzman is such a private person, but now just about everybody knows Paula is his "dead" mother.

Boohoo, no AV tonight.
 

Thanks Marta, great recap.

I was a little disappointed in José Ángel...would it have hurt him to have given an autograph to that nurse who was clearly smitten? I hope that is not how EY is in real life.

I was a little disappointed in Nikki... she is shallow and self-centered but she is not stupid. Roy flat out declared himself to be a jerk. ¿Captas?

Maybe her blood sugar was low.

I was a lot disappointed in Betty. I don't think that we've heard the last from Leo.

By the way, sopilote also means buzzard.

Carlos
 

Yes, I guess we all know that Bea has not seen the last of Lousy Leo. I don't think that he's hit rock bottom yet. He's close , but we haven't heard the thud of Leo's worthless soul hitting rock bottom. And does CoyBoyToyRoy realize that his targeted meal ticket has a big problem ? Or does he know and just not care ? Such a fine young cannibal. At least these folks make us happy to not be related to them.
 

Susanlynn: CoyToyBoyRoy has no idea that Nikki has bulimia. I wonder what he will do when he finds out? Fine young cannibal, lol.
 

Ugh, so I know violence is bad and all but someone should've shot Leo, he is bad bad bad news and letting him go is going to come back and bite everyone in the bum.
 

I was glad to see Guillo touch Bea's face like that because last episode I thought he was kind of dense to not have more of a sensitive reaction.
 

I really don't think CoyBoyToyRoy would care if Nikki has bulimia. He only cares about the money.

It's doubtless we've seen the last of Leo, mostly because he is not dead. Yet. And I dread the day that Bea realizes she is pregnant by his rape. It's bound to happen.
 

Thank you Marta.

Leo the Low is now out and running wild.
I guess that it was to easy to have him captured and hauled off to jail. I have the feeling that Bea is in grave danger--that guy is psycho, he isn't done with her yet---and yes, I agree that she might be pregnant. Where would that lead?

Boy Toy is disgusting, I can hardly watch this jerk/loser. He's not very bright, he's bound to slip at some point and thus bring Nikki back to her senses.

In this story it seems that several members of the cast are related in one way or another. Are they all going to turn out as one big happy family in the end? Just a thought.
the gringo
 

Marta, SuperMarta, there was so much anger and violence in this episode that I don't know how you made it through to give us a super recap.

Actually I thought the whole Nikki-NetaRoyBoyToyZero scenes were pretty funny--he's so ridiculously transparent (to us in Viewerville, at least).

BTW, Marta, et al, we have Barf Bags in stock at Meta*Mart. They actually come in 1 qt. size, in bright shiny colors (purple and green are the favorites) and have a deodorizer built into the plastic lined bag. An airtight closure will keep everything "in" until you can get to the trash cans at the edge of the patio. (You wouldn't want to get up and miss anything, would you?)

Poor Bea, with Leo on the loose, Grannie protecting him, and Bea refusing to bring charges, he's free to get enraged all over again. We can safely deduce he'll try something else. I guess it will only end for Bea when he's dead. That actually would be a better outcome for Guillo.

I loved Polita's exit--Con Per Muwa! Mangled French, but cute.

Sorry, folks, I'm tired of Adri's hystrionics and Lili's stomach pang attacks. Please get on with their story.

So, Pau's life is coming unravelled. Seems to me it was only Vikk who banned her name and her person from the house, so everyone else seems to be ok with it. When Vikk realizes Nikki's nice piano teacher was none other than ANyballs lover, she might come to see things differently--maybe even put her in her Guardespalda Novela as a tragic figure.

 

Just reading the comments--we all agree Leo spells trouble.

Doris, you said it, but we were all probably thinking it--the ra**, er forced, marital relations between Bea & Leo. Surely the writers have a pregnancy in mind. Darn.
 

I think it's way past time to stop mollycoddling Guillo. Tell him flat out:

Your daddy is a very bad man. He hurts your mom. He needs to be in jail.

Next!

Carlos
 

Amen Carlos!
 

I agree! It's not like he isn't noticing how dad treats mom. They're just teaching him that this is okay. Telling him the truth and getting a better life for his mother would be much better for Guillo in the long run.

Aside from being horrified by the events, I was also irritated that such a long emotional scene was supposed to be carried by that insufferable child. He is not a good actor. How does he always manage to look like an old drunk?

I guess we see where Leo gets his lack of morality and heightened powers of delusion. His mother should be ashamed of herself, thinking it's better to have Leo roaming free and hurting everyone than to have to visit him in jail or a manicomio.
 

Ugh! The recappers have it rough with this TN. Thanks for doing this for us, Marta. I honestly don't know how ya'll are staying sane.

Julia-I'm not a fan of Guillo either. I couldn't FF through that scene fast enough. Blech.
 

Does anyone know how many capitulos this TN has in total?
 

Anon 5:58:

The TN has about 180 capitulos or so.
 

OT: just in case anyone is interested, both dvd condensed versions for Abismo(avail now) and Refugio(pre-order, avail end of march) are available on amazon already, ($14.99 each).
 

Marta:

Thanks so much about Refugio. Loved that TN and still think it was the best one I ever saw : ) I am so getting it on DVD.
 

Ya know it is kinda funny that the weepy one, PauToo, holds most of the secrets involving the Balvaneras. She could really spill so much and yet hasn't. I wonder what is gonna happen when Adri finally catches up to her to make her spill. It should be interesting to see if PauToo holds true to form and cries her way out of it, or spills anything she knows. Just a thought.
 

Oh, about the little guy that plays Guillo. The way I look at it the little guy is doing the best he can. This boy can't be more than nine years old, so I'll give him a pass. Who knows maybe when he grows up some he might be a future galan, ya never know : )
 

Thank you very much, Marta! :)

I don't like Guillo either. The kid is all right, I can't blame him for being brainwashed by his father, and he'll probably grow into a dashing young gentleman (as long as his lowlife daddy is out of the picture OR in case he redeems himself somehow, he must be supervised carefully). But Guillo, the character irritates me, because nowadays his only purpose is to torture both Betty and Viewerville.
 

I don't expect child actors to have the skill sets of the older main crew, but the kids still fall into three categories for me: good, inoffensive, and insufferable. Good child actors I remember were the kid who played Cesar in Mi Pecado, the little girl who was Mayita in Cuidado, and Mely Amors from UFCS. Most are inoffensive and don't bug me as long as they aren't expected to do too much emoting or try too hard to be cute. This kid I find insufferable. The expressions he makes just irritate me, plus I don't like the character.

I am so ready for our show to come back! It feels like forever since the last episode!
 

I'm looking forward to seeing it again, too. Not to mention the Gran Estreno of PEAM. I hope it's good.
 

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