Saturday, March 23, 2013
PEAM #10, 3/22/13: What Do They Make at Avon, Anyway?
They Make Plans:
Rogue wants to throw a big ol' surprise engagement party for Alma but naturally doesn't know a thing about her, including who her friends are or her taste in rings, so he delegates it all to Doña Susana. Jesús sees her consternation and offers to help. He cops Alma's address book from her phone which she accidentally left on his desk and goes off with Doña Su and a big wad of bills. What could possibly go wrong?
They Make Trouble:
Paty tries to get info about the party by buttering up Jesús. Gosh, Almita says you're one super sexy secre, didja know? He gets all goofy-face but still doesn't tell her anything. She flounces off.
They Make Promises:
The weedy little cab driver comes back for his reward, and of course Chucho's pockets are still empty. He promises him something tomorrow. Unless tomorrow's payday, this isn't looking good.
They Make Progress:
Xochi calls Jesús and asks him out for coffee; he distractedly agrees. The poor chica is over the moon. Maricela eavesdrops snottily.
They Make Memories:
Alma sees Jesús blissing out over his CD of Valentina pix and sits down to watch with him. She reassures him that it's not his fault he missed her early years, and anyway he'll be there for her from now on. Not every family is happy, she says wistfully. She confides that she would like children herself but is afraid of repeating the mistakes her own parents made.
They Make Excuses:
Vero asks to speak with Doctora Deliciosa after Valentina's session and tells her she is concerned about her child spending time in that Big Bra environment. The Doctora says she sounds jealous. Vero protests, protests, protests too much.
They Make Command Decisions:
Jesús overrides Doña Su's philosophy of "the bigger the rock, the bigger the love" and insists on a simple ring with turquoise, Alma's birthstone. It's wicked ugly, but he's the galán, so we know it will turn out all right -- after a maximum of six months of malentendidos.
They Make Wishes:
Vero calls Jesús and demands to meet his chesty girlfriend. What's her name, anyway? "Alma..." he says dreamily. Rut-Roh.
In Other News:
- The three sillies are preparing a memorable practical joke for "la nueva secretaria." Xochi is not on board, and even Susana hesitates.
- Fer suggests to Xochi that they forget all about the incident in the photocopy room. Ya think?
- Vero almost catches Elías sneaking junk food, which he hides in a houseplant. It should be noted that he looks at it with more passion than he looks at her.
- Rogue arrives home to find a rollicking party in progress on his patio, complete with a roasting pig and a tacky little bald guy who says, "Jesús invited me!" THERE WILL BE FALLOUT.
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Short & sweet, but hopefully I got most of it. Feel free to add in any missing details. I talked Mads into swapping with me since I'm going to be out of town the next two Fridays -- when I get back, I'll tell you where I was!
Permalink posted by 
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 12:43:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 12:43:00 PM EDT
Blue Lass, it may be short and sweet but I like your style and you covered it all!
I learned a new word last night: pechugona (big chested)(btw when I am shopping at the local market for chicken breasts, will asking for pechugonas fly?) :) So funny that Verónica can't get over the pechugona bra. Clearly her situation with JesÚs is not "dead and buried" as she claims it to be.
The best was Chatita catching Verónica spying.
Jarifa
I learned a new word last night: pechugona (big chested)(btw when I am shopping at the local market for chicken breasts, will asking for pechugonas fly?) :) So funny that Verónica can't get over the pechugona bra. Clearly her situation with JesÚs is not "dead and buried" as she claims it to be.
The best was Chatita catching Verónica spying.
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 1:06:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 1:06:00 PM EDT
They make jokes:
Please don't call me Señorita Zorrilla, I feel like an 80 yo woman. Besides, I am not ''señorita'' anymore, please call me Patricia!
They make fashion statements:
Vero's shoes came directly from a KISS eBay auction. I wonder how much are they? Oh! And that neon lemon green phone she carries everywhere! C'mon!
They make ''diligencias'':
Not that they build stagecoachs, but run errands outside the office.
They make abrupt changes:
Interior/exterior make up and hair. Besides, when you go shopping with the oldest secretary, you should use more makeup than she does!!
They make close-ups in 4 stages!
Let me get this:
Vero expects Jesús to have home that looks like hes been living in for the last 10 years, just a few days after his arrival to Monterrey
but he can NOT HAVE A steady girlfriend? How so?
One more word for the vocabulary:
TIRRIA (undeserved hatred)
Please don't call me Señorita Zorrilla, I feel like an 80 yo woman. Besides, I am not ''señorita'' anymore, please call me Patricia!
They make fashion statements:
Vero's shoes came directly from a KISS eBay auction. I wonder how much are they? Oh! And that neon lemon green phone she carries everywhere! C'mon!
They make ''diligencias'':
Not that they build stagecoachs, but run errands outside the office.
They make abrupt changes:
Interior/exterior make up and hair. Besides, when you go shopping with the oldest secretary, you should use more makeup than she does!!
They make close-ups in 4 stages!
Let me get this:
Vero expects Jesús to have home that looks like hes been living in for the last 10 years, just a few days after his arrival to Monterrey
but he can NOT HAVE A steady girlfriend? How so?
One more word for the vocabulary:
TIRRIA (undeserved hatred)
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 1:28:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 1:28:00 PM EDT
I love the phone de limón! It's so...nonsensical.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 1:46:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 1:46:00 PM EDT
Guera, JudyB , Ram Nation is done for 2013....We will lick our wounds and get ready for 2014.
Life Goes On....
Good Luck to your teams, and watch out for Florida Gulf Coast, they may be the Cinderela team this year.
Anon#1
Life Goes On....
Good Luck to your teams, and watch out for Florida Gulf Coast, they may be the Cinderela team this year.
Anon#1
Blue Lass what a delicious, lively recap to greet me when I enjoyed Costa Rican coffee and a scone after finally sleeping in for a blessed 9 hours.. A glorious Saturday so far. Willa is waiting to go for a blustery, wind blown walk.
I loved PatiCake flouncing, yes she does, among other catchy observations.
Thanks Pablo for your insightful observations and great vocabulary additions.
Can't wait to hear about your adventures, Blue Lass. Madelaine will regale us with tales on the next two Friday nights
I loved PatiCake flouncing, yes she does, among other catchy observations.
Thanks Pablo for your insightful observations and great vocabulary additions.
Can't wait to hear about your adventures, Blue Lass. Madelaine will regale us with tales on the next two Friday nights
Thank you" Blue Lass for your succinct recap. It is right on the money.
Pablo, love your "they make" list especially about Vero, what is up with that neon green phone receiver???
Pablo, love your "they make" list especially about Vero, what is up with that neon green phone receiver???
Hey I love these short snappy recaps, and found the "Make...." headings delightful.
Favorite line: Vero worrying about her daughter being in a "Big Bra Environment".
Have to admit, had I ever been separated from my children's father, I might have been nonplussed by finding a humongous bra at his apartment.
Vero keeps wearing ugly shoes, but she was showing off a zippy little "trasero" in this one...Step back Jennifer Lopez! Maybe that's what Elias fell in love with.
All that hoo-hah about the ring and the one Chucho picked looked like it came out of a Cracker Jack box. Ye gods.
Lee, so sorry about that beatdown. Your coach is such a fine guy...and he looked so dejected. Broke my heart. But of course I'd love to see the Big 10 teams go as far as possible, just because Charles Barkley always disses us. Big bully!
Favorite line: Vero worrying about her daughter being in a "Big Bra Environment".
Have to admit, had I ever been separated from my children's father, I might have been nonplussed by finding a humongous bra at his apartment.
Vero keeps wearing ugly shoes, but she was showing off a zippy little "trasero" in this one...Step back Jennifer Lopez! Maybe that's what Elias fell in love with.
All that hoo-hah about the ring and the one Chucho picked looked like it came out of a Cracker Jack box. Ye gods.
Lee, so sorry about that beatdown. Your coach is such a fine guy...and he looked so dejected. Broke my heart. But of course I'd love to see the Big 10 teams go as far as possible, just because Charles Barkley always disses us. Big bully!
Thanks!
For curious people like myself, there's some episodes floating around YT that are not censored (from Galavisión), so we can hear EVERY SINGLE WORD!
For curious people like myself who don't want to see them or don't have access, all the beeped words Fernando says, are mostly flower names and ''terminations'' with ''a'' instead of ''o'' for feminization purposes...
For curious people like myself, there's some episodes floating around YT that are not censored (from Galavisión), so we can hear EVERY SINGLE WORD!
For curious people like myself who don't want to see them or don't have access, all the beeped words Fernando says, are mostly flower names and ''terminations'' with ''a'' instead of ''o'' for feminization purposes...
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 4:05:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 4:05:00 PM EDT
Gracias Blue Lass, love this bit of fluff compared to Amor Bravio.
My main team is the FL gators, my Alma mater, they have a shot of taking the whole thing. I'm also routing for Miami & Fl gulf coast,so far so good.
And I couldn't be happier, Miami Heat 25 straight
My main team is the FL gators, my Alma mater, they have a shot of taking the whole thing. I'm also routing for Miami & Fl gulf coast,so far so good.
And I couldn't be happier, Miami Heat 25 straight
Bit of fluff indeed!
Where are you in FL, Variopinta? Or is it a secret?
Where are you in FL, Variopinta? Or is it a secret?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 4:46:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 4:46:00 PM EDT
Great recap Blue Lass...wam bam thank you ma'am. Good job.
Didn't Verónica's purse match up well with that necklace?
I'm suspecting that poor taxista is going to be showing up at the Avon offices on a daily basis.
Maricela's phone conversations with her dad remind me a bit of Alicia's (LFMB)phone conversations with her dad.
That jabali asado looked delicious but from his reaction, I'm guessing that this is not exactly what Rog had in mind.
Carlos
Didn't Verónica's purse match up well with that necklace?
I'm suspecting that poor taxista is going to be showing up at the Avon offices on a daily basis.
Maricela's phone conversations with her dad remind me a bit of Alicia's (LFMB)phone conversations with her dad.
That jabali asado looked delicious but from his reaction, I'm guessing that this is not exactly what Rog had in mind.
Carlos
We left Susana & Jesús looking for a cab, so I'm hoping weedy guy will show up now that our hero has a big wad of bills in his hand. They definitely didn't spend it all on that ring.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 4:50:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 4:50:00 PM EDT
Wow Variopinta...is it noisy and crowded this time of year? Trying to feel sorry for you here in grey cold snowstorm-on-the-way Ohio.
I am making my own personal map of telenovelamigos. We have a large Ohio contingent!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 5:04:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 5:04:00 PM EDT
That's 'cause with our crappy weather, we spend a lot of time indoors!
Actually, today is lovely. Cold but bright sunshine. Ohioans stream out of their homes on a sunny day and weep with joy, kiss the ground and grovel through a few other pathetically grateful moves.
Actually, today is lovely. Cold but bright sunshine. Ohioans stream out of their homes on a sunny day and weep with joy, kiss the ground and grovel through a few other pathetically grateful moves.
I know I live in paradise, we just can't keep it secret anymore. Noise & crowds, depends, I95 is a nightmare, the beach, too many people. I'm just sitting here looking out to the river, the clear blue skies, sun, it's about 84% right now. I have enjoyed the cold weather (Fl cold, that is)I think some more is coming our way.
Thank you, Blue Lass! I loved the snappy style. It's really hard to tell what Avon does, isn't it? They have an established employee who seems completely clueless about makeup and perfume. The French guys meeting confused me, too. Shouldn't the perfume makers have been trying to sell Avon on how awesome their perfumes are? It was more like Avon was making a pitch to them. Maybe they're trying to get an exclusive deal and had to convince them they can sell more of their stuff than any competing bidders or something.
I actually like Chulo's idea of not going with the same old, same old engagement ring style and picking something more personal and interesting...but THAT? I don't hate the turquoise ring, per se. I had a ring very similar to that, except in a star shape, when I was a little kid. I think I bought it at a craft market stall for two or three dollars. But he kept talking about how elegant and sophisticated Alma is, so...turquoise heart shaped. Then again, he does not want Alma to marry Rogue, so well played. Then again again, Rogue is going to find out he picked it, so risky move.
Rogue is a piece of work. "I have no idea who her friends are (aside from my mistress). I have no idea what she likes. I cannot be bothered with doing any ring shopping myself; it isn't like I care *that* much, sheesh. She's just told me maybe we shouldn't even be dating. So obviously we should get married, ASAP." I like how things keep not working out well for him; I hope his bad luck continues.
I actually like Chulo's idea of not going with the same old, same old engagement ring style and picking something more personal and interesting...but THAT? I don't hate the turquoise ring, per se. I had a ring very similar to that, except in a star shape, when I was a little kid. I think I bought it at a craft market stall for two or three dollars. But he kept talking about how elegant and sophisticated Alma is, so...turquoise heart shaped. Then again, he does not want Alma to marry Rogue, so well played. Then again again, Rogue is going to find out he picked it, so risky move.
Rogue is a piece of work. "I have no idea who her friends are (aside from my mistress). I have no idea what she likes. I cannot be bothered with doing any ring shopping myself; it isn't like I care *that* much, sheesh. She's just told me maybe we shouldn't even be dating. So obviously we should get married, ASAP." I like how things keep not working out well for him; I hope his bad luck continues.
Jarifa - Indeed you can purchase "pechugonas" at the market. The correct word used for chicken breast is "pechuga."
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 6:06:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 6:06:00 PM EDT
When I worked at LUBY'S we had a manager that used to call them ''chiches de gallina''*. Maybe as a joke or maybe seriously, but we all used to laugh a lot at/with him...
*chicken breast
*chicken breast
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 6:09:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 6:09:00 PM EDT
Variopinta, I lived in FL when I was a kid. It really WAS paradise -- sometimes we'd go to the beach and there was no one else there! Hard to believe.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 7:02:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 7:02:00 PM EDT
Thanks to all the recappers this week. Very enjoyable, all five. And the comments also - y'all are so witty.
Glad a few of our basketball teams are still in the running. Mike and I look for UK to redeem themselves next year.
About the big bra. My daughter and I were in a store about 15 years ago and we saw a huge bra. We each put one of the cups on our heads and wandered around the department. Just one more store we can't visit again, sigh.
Have fun on your trip, Blue.
Glad a few of our basketball teams are still in the running. Mike and I look for UK to redeem themselves next year.
About the big bra. My daughter and I were in a store about 15 years ago and we saw a huge bra. We each put one of the cups on our heads and wandered around the department. Just one more store we can't visit again, sigh.
Have fun on your trip, Blue.
Hmmm...would I want to go shopping with Emilia? YES I WOULD. Who needs to go the same store more than once, anyway?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 7:50:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 7:50:00 PM EDT
Howdy, Blue! There are few things I enjoy more than a concise recap that covers the bases without excess... well, I'll just say, "Muy, pero muy bien! Un Gran Trabajo!" This is probably anything but fair, but I kinda wish Blanca Soto weren't in this as I'll always think of the unlamented El Tal when I see her. Yeah, I'm a mean old man.
JudyB, I know what you mean about winter weather and we had that climate when I was growing up in northern Kentucky. Part of why I haven't been back since I left 45 years ago.
I'm liking Chatita a lot. She reminds me of Mrs. Armstrong who lived downstairs when I went back to Lexington after I was discharged. She was 65 (incredibly old...) and a little batty and used to feed me from time to time. That was about when Emilia and I started dating, and dear Mrs. Armstrong was convinced Emilia was jealous of her. Descanse en paz, Mrs. A.
Carlos, you gonna eat that mud bug?
JudyB, I know what you mean about winter weather and we had that climate when I was growing up in northern Kentucky. Part of why I haven't been back since I left 45 years ago.
I'm liking Chatita a lot. She reminds me of Mrs. Armstrong who lived downstairs when I went back to Lexington after I was discharged. She was 65 (incredibly old...) and a little batty and used to feed me from time to time. That was about when Emilia and I started dating, and dear Mrs. Armstrong was convinced Emilia was jealous of her. Descanse en paz, Mrs. A.
Carlos, you gonna eat that mud bug?
Short & sweet maybe but your style is always appreciated, Blue Lass.
OMG Emilian-- your bra in the store story is hilarious. As Blue Lass said who needs to go back to that store if they are that tight A...d
Sorry about VCU, Lee. And good luck to OSU, JudyB. Is that tomorrow? I guess you've got a couple of dogs in the hunt, Variopinta. Me I'm just sitting here waiting 40 more minutes to see if SU can tame another group of bears.
Güera
OMG Emilian-- your bra in the store story is hilarious. As Blue Lass said who needs to go back to that store if they are that tight A...d
Sorry about VCU, Lee. And good luck to OSU, JudyB. Is that tomorrow? I guess you've got a couple of dogs in the hunt, Variopinta. Me I'm just sitting here waiting 40 more minutes to see if SU can tame another group of bears.
Güera
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 8:57:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 8:57:00 PM EDT
Thanks, Blue Lass. I really enjoyed the format on this recap.
The ring shopping trip--at least Jesus was able to persuade Dona Susana, but not sure I agree with the choice of ring. Looks like it says memories of a fun weekend together instead of a lifetime commitment.
I am liking Julissa more in this TN, however. She's always seemed like an uptight ol' biddy before and now she's more fun.
Valentina could wear the large bra as a cap to play with. Loved Emelia's shopping story.
La Paloma
The ring shopping trip--at least Jesus was able to persuade Dona Susana, but not sure I agree with the choice of ring. Looks like it says memories of a fun weekend together instead of a lifetime commitment.
I am liking Julissa more in this TN, however. She's always seemed like an uptight ol' biddy before and now she's more fun.
Valentina could wear the large bra as a cap to play with. Loved Emelia's shopping story.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 10:35:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 23, 2013 at 10:35:00 PM EDT
Ok We're putting Emilia in charge of shopping trips! What a great image to stick in my head. Your daughter was lucky to grow up with such a fun Mom. Really funny. How nice to see Mike and Emilia show up here to make us laugh.
I can't add anything to the sports report. All New Mexico is in deep mourning, just don't bring up that big re-signing bonus raise have some wishing it will be a resigning bonus. Sheesh.
I can't add anything to the sports report. All New Mexico is in deep mourning, just don't bring up that big re-signing bonus raise have some wishing it will be a resigning bonus. Sheesh.
I also loved the format of the recap, Blue Lass. Your recaps are often more fun than the show itself. "What could possibly go wrong?" hahahaha
Thank you, Pablo, for the word tirria. It's interesting when another language has a word for something we don't, especially a concept that is so familiar like 'undeserved hatred'.
Thank you, Pablo, for the word tirria. It's interesting when another language has a word for something we don't, especially a concept that is so familiar like 'undeserved hatred'.
Could it be something like ''love to hate''?
It was not in my vocabulary but I once heard a friend say: me tiene tirria.
I asked him what was that and he said that someone just hated him without a valid reason. I know we all hate something from time to time, but being obsessed with that hate without exchanging points of view or reasoning to arguments make it become ''the tirria''
It was not in my vocabulary but I once heard a friend say: me tiene tirria.
I asked him what was that and he said that someone just hated him without a valid reason. I know we all hate something from time to time, but being obsessed with that hate without exchanging points of view or reasoning to arguments make it become ''the tirria''
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 8:55:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 8:55:00 AM EDT
Also thank you for informing us about what is getting censored... more proof that homophobia is just another form of misogyny.
Well... it doesn't surprise me. Rebeca from PESE had almost all of her lines muted... In Univisión censor the word ''huevos'' even when it is in not in the sexual context. I really don't understand. Can you believe they aired once the argentinian movie APARIENCIAS ''dubbed'' to spanish? I thought WT*!
I understand that language because it is my own (only with a different accent)! I had seen the same movie in its original version and then I saw it in neutral spanish out of curiosity... I am still wondering why they do things like that!
I understand that language because it is my own (only with a different accent)! I had seen the same movie in its original version and then I saw it in neutral spanish out of curiosity... I am still wondering why they do things like that!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 9:09:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 9:09:00 AM EDT
Pablo, unfortunately, I think it all comes down to money. IMHO, they are just too afraid that they might tick somebody off and lose audience and then lose advertisers and revenue. As for dubbing into "neutral Spanish" how boring and sterile is that? Makes no sense at all.
Jarifa
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 10:27:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 10:27:00 AM EDT
Sure! Specially when we should have the option to enjoy all accents.
For instance, I used to watch TN from Chile (some of the best alongside with the Brazilians) and I loved that accent over all in South America.
Pololo, Mote con Huesillo, palta, together with the way they speak hooked me up and I remember setting my alarm clock so I couldn't miss the TN when in Chile the time zone changed and I had to get up at 3am, 4am and so on...
PURA SANGRE is one of the few TN I have watched entirely and I can say, nothing stopped me!
Neutral spanish has supposedly been created to make a movie understandable universally avoiding words or local slang from country to country, but, isn't that what give them the most flavor? IMO.
For instance, I used to watch TN from Chile (some of the best alongside with the Brazilians) and I loved that accent over all in South America.
Pololo, Mote con Huesillo, palta, together with the way they speak hooked me up and I remember setting my alarm clock so I couldn't miss the TN when in Chile the time zone changed and I had to get up at 3am, 4am and so on...
PURA SANGRE is one of the few TN I have watched entirely and I can say, nothing stopped me!
Neutral spanish has supposedly been created to make a movie understandable universally avoiding words or local slang from country to country, but, isn't that what give them the most flavor? IMO.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 10:41:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 10:41:00 AM EDT
What are some of the words they are beeping? I know maricón for gay, I don't think it is insulting. Seems the usual word is - gay, do they beep that? No, I've heard them say it.
The censuring is really estupido!
The censuring is really estupido!
Blue Lass- I also really enjoyed the way you organized this recap. Simply brilliant! Have fun on your trip.
Pablo- Thanks for "tirria". Such a useful word for tns because there is always someone who just hates someone else with a passion for not much reason. In CME we learned a phrase for a love-hate relationship. One of the characters described the love between the protagonists, who were on again, off again and constantly fighting, as "amor apache". Apparently the phrase goes back to early white settlers who took (unwilling) Indian wives. Very interesting.
The ring Chucho got Alta makes sense in an odd way. Alta is such a controlled person. Everything in her universe is perfect, and classy, and sterile-- like her apartment. And now we know she didn't have much of a childhood. A large solitaire diamond ring would have fit perfectly-- but what Alta needs is a whimsical ring meant for a 13 year old girl, to release/please her inner child. I think Chucho's real accomplishment in the end will be to bring whimsy and fun into Alta's life. I bet it will not just be Valentina who gets to enjoy learning to be a kid with Chucho.
Pablo- Thanks for "tirria". Such a useful word for tns because there is always someone who just hates someone else with a passion for not much reason. In CME we learned a phrase for a love-hate relationship. One of the characters described the love between the protagonists, who were on again, off again and constantly fighting, as "amor apache". Apparently the phrase goes back to early white settlers who took (unwilling) Indian wives. Very interesting.
The ring Chucho got Alta makes sense in an odd way. Alta is such a controlled person. Everything in her universe is perfect, and classy, and sterile-- like her apartment. And now we know she didn't have much of a childhood. A large solitaire diamond ring would have fit perfectly-- but what Alta needs is a whimsical ring meant for a 13 year old girl, to release/please her inner child. I think Chucho's real accomplishment in the end will be to bring whimsy and fun into Alta's life. I bet it will not just be Valentina who gets to enjoy learning to be a kid with Chucho.
You are so right. In English language productions it would be like watching "Crocodile Dundee" with a midwest accent rather than an Australian one. Too much of the original culture reflected in the language is lost. If only the artists/writers themselves were in control!
Jarifa
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 11:05:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 11:05:00 AM EDT
VP: My only guess is that they're trying to not perpetuate the use of some words but, not hearing them doesn't make them go away and the only thing they are perpetuating is the ostrich syndrome (if I don't see it, doesn't exist). We need to get out of the bubble and into the real cruel world (to get the ''antibodies'')...
Jarifa: For me is like going to another countries without leaving home. I can explore other cultures, met other people and their problems, enjoy their daily life and experiment something different.
Besides being entertained, I am learning, because new words, customs, and everything out of the ordinary becomes Extra-ordinary!
Jarifa: For me is like going to another countries without leaving home. I can explore other cultures, met other people and their problems, enjoy their daily life and experiment something different.
Besides being entertained, I am learning, because new words, customs, and everything out of the ordinary becomes Extra-ordinary!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 11:11:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 11:11:00 AM EDT
JudyB, Your Buckeyes are about to take to the court. Good Luck.
306
306
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 12:42:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 12:42:00 PM EDT
Blue:
Thanks so much for this rollicking recap. Love your style : ) I agree with Vivi about Alma's ring. He does want to bring out her inner child. I think it's cute, even though that ring is tacky. It's funny that Alma spends all this time with Chucho and not much with Rog, hmmmm.....
I too liked the food at his surprise engagement party. That jabali asado looked really good. I kind of like that Chucho messed up the guest list and it should be loads of fun, except for the fuming Rog, lol.
I liked Dona Suzanna and Chucho's romp thru the mall, too funny.
I want to go shopping with Emila too, it would be a tremendous hoot : )
Pablo: Thanks for all the vocab. It helps me learn : )
Jarifa and Pablo: So agree with you both about the language. They should leave it in the native tongue. It helps to learn the dialect and different slang.
Thanks so much for this rollicking recap. Love your style : ) I agree with Vivi about Alma's ring. He does want to bring out her inner child. I think it's cute, even though that ring is tacky. It's funny that Alma spends all this time with Chucho and not much with Rog, hmmmm.....
I too liked the food at his surprise engagement party. That jabali asado looked really good. I kind of like that Chucho messed up the guest list and it should be loads of fun, except for the fuming Rog, lol.
I liked Dona Suzanna and Chucho's romp thru the mall, too funny.
I want to go shopping with Emila too, it would be a tremendous hoot : )
Pablo: Thanks for all the vocab. It helps me learn : )
Jarifa and Pablo: So agree with you both about the language. They should leave it in the native tongue. It helps to learn the dialect and different slang.
JudyB, Craft came through. Are you breathing yet? See you in the Sweet Sixteen! Good Luck to both teams.
And I agree with the silliness of playing with the language. It's odd to see the kind of things Univision decides to censor. Remember all the blurring & bleeping of dog pooh remarks in Tontas? It does seem that the one group it is OK to mock in all of these Televisa shows is gay characters -- even those mistakenly identified as such like Jésus. Then when Uni picks it up for US audiences they can't let all the gay bashing stand. That is they can't let the language stand but they leave in all the cruel actions and visuals.
Güera
And I agree with the silliness of playing with the language. It's odd to see the kind of things Univision decides to censor. Remember all the blurring & bleeping of dog pooh remarks in Tontas? It does seem that the one group it is OK to mock in all of these Televisa shows is gay characters -- even those mistakenly identified as such like Jésus. Then when Uni picks it up for US audiences they can't let all the gay bashing stand. That is they can't let the language stand but they leave in all the cruel actions and visuals.
Güera
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 2:40:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 2:40:00 PM EDT
Hola Güera...I was so nervous I couldn't watch the last few seconds. Figured they'd re-show it anyway.
That was not a brilliant Aaron Craft game...he's had so many where he's phenomenal...on steals, layups etc. But he really really came through at the end. Waving off our star shooter and taking a three-point shot (which is not his strong suit) was incredible. As is his 3.9 grade point in pre-med. Can you tell I'm an Aaron fan?
On gayness slang, they often let long involved slang get through..."he's batting for the other side" or "He's batting on the left" but seem to bleep the short words. I never understood why they blanked out dog poo though. Guess they figure Americans are more squeamish than Mexicans. But they never hesitate to show bloody corpses on the news. To me, that's more obscene. And very upsetting.
That was not a brilliant Aaron Craft game...he's had so many where he's phenomenal...on steals, layups etc. But he really really came through at the end. Waving off our star shooter and taking a three-point shot (which is not his strong suit) was incredible. As is his 3.9 grade point in pre-med. Can you tell I'm an Aaron fan?
On gayness slang, they often let long involved slang get through..."he's batting for the other side" or "He's batting on the left" but seem to bleep the short words. I never understood why they blanked out dog poo though. Guess they figure Americans are more squeamish than Mexicans. But they never hesitate to show bloody corpses on the news. To me, that's more obscene. And very upsetting.
Wow, Judy, that was close. Congratulations.
Our Girly-Bears play tonight against Prairie View which is a little school near here. Brittney's last season.
Our guys are doing well in the NIT...I know...who cares?
Hi Mike. I was pulling for UK against Robert Morris in the NIT but they really didn't seem to want to be there.
I know...who cares?
Maybe if Blanca had some feathers?
Crawfish are in season and are every bit as popular here as in La. Also the oysters are superb right now.
Carlos
Our Girly-Bears play tonight against Prairie View which is a little school near here. Brittney's last season.
Our guys are doing well in the NIT...I know...who cares?
Hi Mike. I was pulling for UK against Robert Morris in the NIT but they really didn't seem to want to be there.
I know...who cares?
Maybe if Blanca had some feathers?
Crawfish are in season and are every bit as popular here as in La. Also the oysters are superb right now.
Carlos
We DO care Carlos! The year we didn't go to the NCAA, we won the NIT and that is what I'm hoping for you. Kentucky is out already so I have no divided loyalties. Go Bears!
And honestly, wouldn't you rather win the NIT than be eliminated early like no. 1 seed Gonzaga. And Indiana is in a street fight right now.
And honestly, wouldn't you rather win the NIT than be eliminated early like no. 1 seed Gonzaga. And Indiana is in a street fight right now.
I don't know how they call it here, but in México, there's a ''Secretaría de Comunicaciones'' which fines radio and tv when they air certain words.
Also, Univisión could be afraid of GLAAD...
Better safe than sorry...
Also, Univisión could be afraid of GLAAD...
Better safe than sorry...
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 4:30:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 4:30:00 PM EDT
Anyone see George Carlin & the 7 words you can't say on TV. He did an hr show not using the 7 words but every word or phrase was way more gross than those 7. It was hilarious, I had not heard most of them but you knew exactly what was meant. I really miss that guy.
Thank you Blue, and happy travels! "Vero almost catches Elías sneaking junk food, which he hides in a houseplant. It should be noted that he looks at it with more passion than he looks at her." LOL! Well, neither the junk food nor the houseplant is likely to screech at him. I can see why that might appeal to him!
I think Vero's bright green handset is supposed to help protect her brain from getting irradiated by her cell phone. (I daresay it may be too late... brain damage would explain a lot.) She's mentioned cell phone radiation before...
Thanks, Pablo V, for letting us know what our virgin ears are missing. I really don't care to listen to hateful slurs all night, but neither do I like silent bleeps. What is upsetting is not the sound of the words, but the fact that they're being said - whether I can hear them or not. So I can only hope that Fernando will learn a valuable lesson, or end up in jail with Plutarco and Onesimo from PESE.
Emilia, I'd go shopping with you. There are plenty of stores I wouldn't mind being banned from, as long as it was for a good cause. Running around with half a bra on my head seems like a good cause!
I think Vero's bright green handset is supposed to help protect her brain from getting irradiated by her cell phone. (I daresay it may be too late... brain damage would explain a lot.) She's mentioned cell phone radiation before...
Thanks, Pablo V, for letting us know what our virgin ears are missing. I really don't care to listen to hateful slurs all night, but neither do I like silent bleeps. What is upsetting is not the sound of the words, but the fact that they're being said - whether I can hear them or not. So I can only hope that Fernando will learn a valuable lesson, or end up in jail with Plutarco and Onesimo from PESE.
Emilia, I'd go shopping with you. There are plenty of stores I wouldn't mind being banned from, as long as it was for a good cause. Running around with half a bra on my head seems like a good cause!
Maybe we should meet at a mall and have a contest to see who can get kicked out of the most stores - legally, no pinching the merchandise.
Emilia, I think we should see how long it takes before they don't let us IN. :)
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 7:32:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 7:32:00 PM EDT
Judy B. you won a close one...some controversy, but still a win. Guera, Orangemen struggled a bit, but manage to win also.
Congratulation on your victories, I am now a spectator without a "dog in the hunt"....68 teams go in to dance, and 67 go home losers...
Judy B. Charles Barkley is hard on the Big 10... He comes to Richmond and has a Golf Outing that benefits VCU every year...but I was not a fan of his until then, and still wonder what makes him an expert on college basketball.
Judy B. / Guera, Here is my e-mail address, so we can make sure we are connected for next year big dance 2014.
leefox201@gmail.com
Annon#1
Congratulation on your victories, I am now a spectator without a "dog in the hunt"....68 teams go in to dance, and 67 go home losers...
Judy B. Charles Barkley is hard on the Big 10... He comes to Richmond and has a Golf Outing that benefits VCU every year...but I was not a fan of his until then, and still wonder what makes him an expert on college basketball.
Judy B. / Guera, Here is my e-mail address, so we can make sure we are connected for next year big dance 2014.
leefox201@gmail.com
Annon#1
I'll go shopping with Emilia, too. My dad is always embarrassed and pretends he doesn't know me when I'm shopping with him and I dance in the store aisles. To which I say, "if they didn't want me to dance, they wouldn't be playing music."
Vero is concerned about cell phone radiation. Sure, she could get an inobtrusive little earbud or headset like any old chump, but our Vero is all about maximum inconvenience and ostentation.
Vero is concerned about cell phone radiation. Sure, she could get an inobtrusive little earbud or headset like any old chump, but our Vero is all about maximum inconvenience and ostentation.
Julia, men just shop differently from us. I embarrass Mike when I try on hats, and not just in the men's departments.
Dancing in the aisles is fun. I once put on inline skates and cruised the aisles of a K-Mart. Back when I was a touch more flexible!
Dancing in the aisles is fun. I once put on inline skates and cruised the aisles of a K-Mart. Back when I was a touch more flexible!
Bueno, mi Vida, you can try on hats all day and not embarrass me.
Pablo, we have the Federal Communications Commission that performs a similar function.
Carlos... once again, you stimulate the gastric juices. It's been too long since I had a mess of decent crawdads and eons since etouffee. I've had oysters a couple of times this winter and they've been OK, but just OK. Glad to hear you're enjoying some decent ones.
Pablo, we have the Federal Communications Commission that performs a similar function.
Carlos... once again, you stimulate the gastric juices. It's been too long since I had a mess of decent crawdads and eons since etouffee. I've had oysters a couple of times this winter and they've been OK, but just OK. Glad to hear you're enjoying some decent ones.
You mean there are people who DON'T dance in store aisles???
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 9:14:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 24, 2013 at 9:14:00 PM EDT
Ahhh... etoufee. That sounds good after a plateful of arugula. (I love arugula, but it'd be better with a bunch of little crawdads on it.)
Blue, of course there are people who don't dance in store aisles. What a silly question. Some of us prefer to sing along with the inexplicable musical selections. (There are songs that I've NEVER heard outside of Stop & Shop. I really need to learn how to shop faster.)
I was a little surprised by Fernando's apology to Xochi. The night before, I had assumed that Jessica had put him up to pretending to be hot for Xochi. (I had also thought that both she and Maricela were playing jokes on Xochi, but in retrospect it appears they really were trying to help and simply overestimated her sophistication.
BTW, did I imagine it, or did Xochi shorten her skirt (sort of)? I didn't get a good look, but I thought I saw Jesus do a double-take at her hemline as she went out of his office.
I'm glad that Susana is teetering towards Team Chucho. But I wonder how the turquoise heart ring will go over. Alma's probably too sweet to dislike it; I'm more interested in Rog's reaction.
Blue, of course there are people who don't dance in store aisles. What a silly question. Some of us prefer to sing along with the inexplicable musical selections. (There are songs that I've NEVER heard outside of Stop & Shop. I really need to learn how to shop faster.)
I was a little surprised by Fernando's apology to Xochi. The night before, I had assumed that Jessica had put him up to pretending to be hot for Xochi. (I had also thought that both she and Maricela were playing jokes on Xochi, but in retrospect it appears they really were trying to help and simply overestimated her sophistication.
BTW, did I imagine it, or did Xochi shorten her skirt (sort of)? I didn't get a good look, but I thought I saw Jesus do a double-take at her hemline as she went out of his office.
I'm glad that Susana is teetering towards Team Chucho. But I wonder how the turquoise heart ring will go over. Alma's probably too sweet to dislike it; I'm more interested in Rog's reaction.
I loved this concise and witty recap, Blue. Thanks for the laughs. Did we ever decide just what they're selling at Avon?
I'd like to be included in the shopping fun! I had my husband paged at Home Depot last night, even though I could see him. It's no bra-cup hat, but it was fun. For me.
I'd like to be included in the shopping fun! I had my husband paged at Home Depot last night, even though I could see him. It's no bra-cup hat, but it was fun. For me.
One former co-worker and I used to hold meetings (when it was just the two of us who needed to talk) in the massage chairs at Brookstone in the mall a block from our office. Sometimes when they started giving us side-eye for going there too often, we'd switch to Sharper Image. I was very sad when both those stores closed.
Love these shopping stories. I had a student who, on a dare, did a full cartwheel in the aisle at Kroger's (a local supermarket). Pretty impressive.
Lee, that loss was a heartbreaker for Iowa State. They played a fantastic game. I'm sure the controversy over "was his foot over, or does having the heel up make it okay?" controversy made their loss all the more bitter. Evidently the coach was so devastated, he couldn't even make an opening statement after the game.
I wish "winning" didn't involve someone else "losing"...especially when you know the losing team worked just as hard, spent just as many hours practicing, hoping, dreaming, and practicing some more.
Lee, that loss was a heartbreaker for Iowa State. They played a fantastic game. I'm sure the controversy over "was his foot over, or does having the heel up make it okay?" controversy made their loss all the more bitter. Evidently the coach was so devastated, he couldn't even make an opening statement after the game.
I wish "winning" didn't involve someone else "losing"...especially when you know the losing team worked just as hard, spent just as many hours practicing, hoping, dreaming, and practicing some more.
Finally with the Sweet Sixteen, we're down to a manageable number of loyalties -- my Dad went to Syracuse and my brother-in-law to Michigan State, and I had nieces, nephews and close friends at four others. But I think I'm throwing my last-minute support behind Marquette, because I studied with their program in Spain. ¡¡Ándale Águilas Dorados!!
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:37:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:37:00 AM EDT
Great recap.
I was out Friday evening and finally caught up with this. Are birthstones different in every country? If Alma's a February birth her birthstone is amethyst, which would make beautiful side stones for a diamond. (I'm seeing an emerald-cut diamond with two amethyst hearts at side stones).
Vero has some bloody nerve demanding to meet Jesus' (fictional) novia. Sensible divorced parents do not introduce new significant others to their kids until they are truly serious.
She's a jealous bitch and completely unworthy of the nice guy she's married to.
I think Rogue just wants full control of the company; he doesn't know Alma well enough to even think of marrying her.
I was out Friday evening and finally caught up with this. Are birthstones different in every country? If Alma's a February birth her birthstone is amethyst, which would make beautiful side stones for a diamond. (I'm seeing an emerald-cut diamond with two amethyst hearts at side stones).
Vero has some bloody nerve demanding to meet Jesus' (fictional) novia. Sensible divorced parents do not introduce new significant others to their kids until they are truly serious.
She's a jealous bitch and completely unworthy of the nice guy she's married to.
I think Rogue just wants full control of the company; he doesn't know Alma well enough to even think of marrying her.
UA, I think the stone was for her astrological sign -- Aquarius.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:40:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:40:00 AM EDT
My 81 year old mother is in the top 97.5% of the espn million-person pool because she chose Wichita over Gonzaga. She chose Wichita (Kansas) because my son is currently living in Kansas City, Missouri. Go figure.
Just found this on a completely unreliable website:
"Turquoise can help Aquarius temper the urge for new things and return to an appreciation of their partner and the realities of their situation. It can also help counter indifference, which is one of the negative qualities that Aquarians can display toward those nearest to them."
So maybe the ring will help Alma appreciate the REALITY OF HER SITUATION with Rogue and overcome her INDIFFERENCE to Jesús. Here's hoping...
"Turquoise can help Aquarius temper the urge for new things and return to an appreciation of their partner and the realities of their situation. It can also help counter indifference, which is one of the negative qualities that Aquarians can display toward those nearest to them."
So maybe the ring will help Alma appreciate the REALITY OF HER SITUATION with Rogue and overcome her INDIFFERENCE to Jesús. Here's hoping...
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:45:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 25, 2013 at 8:45:00 AM EDT
Blue:
Urban is right. I am an Aquarius and my birthstone is an amethyst. I think the writers may have made a mistake here. When Chucho was talking to the jeweler and she said the birthstone was turquoise I was like Que, Que, What??? lol.
Urban is right. I am an Aquarius and my birthstone is an amethyst. I think the writers may have made a mistake here. When Chucho was talking to the jeweler and she said the birthstone was turquoise I was like Que, Que, What??? lol.
If you look up birthstones on Wikipedia, you'll see that a lot of months have claimed turquoise at various times and in various places (and the table in that article is by no means complete).
In that article, the list by astrological sign doesn't even have turquoise, though I'm sure you'd have no trouble finding lots of other lists elsewhere that say very different things.
Frankly, I had no idea there was so little agreement in these matters. Based on what I've seen in these three minutes of Googling, I don't think I would ever get someone a birthstone based on their month or sign unless I knew what THEY considered their "birthstone" (or their favorite stone, period).
In that article, the list by astrological sign doesn't even have turquoise, though I'm sure you'd have no trouble finding lots of other lists elsewhere that say very different things.
Frankly, I had no idea there was so little agreement in these matters. Based on what I've seen in these three minutes of Googling, I don't think I would ever get someone a birthstone based on their month or sign unless I knew what THEY considered their "birthstone" (or their favorite stone, period).
Jejeje, Blue! I looked at your recap on a real computer, as opposed to my phone and notice the "They make..." layout. How clever! Of course this makes me embarrassed that I asked if we ever found out what they make at Avon in a previous comment. So, disregard that, and know your old (1 year older, to be exact) friend, RlaO is delighted anew by the recap.
I am about ready to get a real, grown-up phone for the first time -- should I ask for one that can fit a whole recap? :D
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 25, 2013 at 1:27:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 25, 2013 at 1:27:00 PM EDT
Blue Lass, by all means make the salesperson demonstrate the ease and clarity of reading a CC recap on each phone you are considering. What else are phones for?!
"What else are phones for?!"
ITA! Really, my smart phone could be called my Caray Caray Phone, because that's what I do most on it.
ITA! Really, my smart phone could be called my Caray Caray Phone, because that's what I do most on it.
I can barely keep up with the episodes and the recaps but when I do it lightens up my life. I just got a look at Blue's avatar and saw the tres melones!
I do have a soft spot for Vero. I imagine she was devastated when Chucho left her messy self 6 years ago, then freaked out figuring out how to take care of herself and their daughter. She is wildly overcompensating. His reappearance undermines her house of cards and she is not handling it gracefully at all. I do hope she gets some therapy and comes around by the time this is all over.
I do have a soft spot for Vero. I imagine she was devastated when Chucho left her messy self 6 years ago, then freaked out figuring out how to take care of herself and their daughter. She is wildly overcompensating. His reappearance undermines her house of cards and she is not handling it gracefully at all. I do hope she gets some therapy and comes around by the time this is all over.
AND I'M SO JEALOUS OF ALL OF YOU. Imagine, being able to check in with Caraymates from anywhere! They should put an ad on Univisión. ¡¡LLAMA YA!!
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 25, 2013 at 2:32:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 25, 2013 at 2:32:00 PM EDT
Blue lass, loved loved your title. have to come back to read after taking mother grocery shopping. i will be back.
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