Saturday, April 13, 2013
Amor Bravío HOY Post-Finale Special!!!!
Amor Bravío HOY Post-Finale Special
Remember when we used to have the Cristina telenovela post-finale specials to look forward to? We would get to see the telenovela stars we had just seen blunder, struggle, triumph, and punished over the last 5-9 months, all cleaned up in their real world duds, and hear their take on their characters, the story, and the behind the scenes. Cristina would at times push the envelope and ask questions that were WAY too personal (usually about the romantic lives of the leads), but for the most part, she kept her questions focused on the telenovela, which is exactly why we watched her show. In the last two years since the Cristina show ended, Don Francisco has tried his hand at the post-finale special, with little success.
I’m glad he didn’t attempt it with the Amor Bravío cast. But I (and I’m sure others) really wanted to see this great cast all together one last time, and hear their thoughts on the telenovela. The folks at Hoy did us this favor, and brought the AB cast and crew together for a Post-Finale Amor Bravío Special after the finale aired in Mexico in October. Other than a few missing people, who were already off on location filming their next telenovelas (e.g. Florencia de S./Natalia, Laura C./Ximena), most of the cast was present.
The interviews feel more like we’ve dropped in on a chat between friends, because the Hoy cast members are all actors, singers or entertainers who have worked with many of the AB actors in the past, or are even related to them or have close personal ties. I will do my best to give an overview of what was said. But rapid-fire informal speech is way different than scripted/slower speech in a telenovela. What is clear is that this cast enjoyed working with each other, and we the audience certainly enjoyed watching them. A link to the entire 52 minute show is embedded above, but here’s the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMgAVYmKpwk
Part 1: The Malquerida Crew
(Mariana van Rankin/Luzma; Yolanda Ventura/Piedad; Eddy Vilard/Pablo; Ricardo Franco/Rodolfo; Luis Gatica/Hipólito; and Olivia Bucio/Agustina); Interviewed by Andrea Legarreta and Alan Tacher (brother of Mark).
Olivia is the first to speak about her character, Agustina. She was obviously as frustrated with Gussy as we were. She gets that love is great and makes us see everything through rose colored glasses, but Gussy’s love made her supremely stupid! LOL! Everyone agrees, but they joke that “El Cubano” (Cesar Evora) has a certain something. Olivia recalls reading her script each day and saying to herself, “Not again! I have to tell Dionisio that I love him like crazy and passionately, and that my whole world revolves around him! Uyyy! Why?!” LOL!
Olivia was happy with Gussy’s end because it was the only way to show Camila that she really, truly loved her—a mother’s love for her daughter. Just remembering it makes her want to cry. Gussy had made so many mistakes, and had been so unjust to Daniel, that she feels it was the only way to show them both that she loved them. When she read the script she said, “Good! Agustina dies!” Haha! Luis/Hipolito says he would make the same sacrifice for his kids. Yolanda/Piedad agrees that it was a good example to show that even though you may make mistakes, you can always ask for forgiveness.
Luis changes the subject to something happier—amor! He points to the two young guys, Eddy/Pablo and Ricardo/Rodolfo, who ended the story with their lady loves. Alan points out that Hip-Piedad ended up together as well. Andrea gushes about how lovely the couples were and the actors who played them. She compliments Mariana (but seems to have trouble remembering her name; what’s up with that Andrea?). Eddy loved his character Pablo, who was super in love and committed to Luzma. He really enjoyed his scenes with the lovely Mariana, especially their final reencounter at the waterfalls in Chiapas. The guys tease him about this. “Uh huh. We’re sure it was REALLY nice.” They are certain he didn’t even notice at all how cold it was. Mariana/Luzma brings up that she, Eddy, Ricardo, and Luis had all worked together on an episode of Mujeres Asesinas (“Carmen, Honrada") a few years ago (Eddy played her boyfriend, and Luis played her dad in the episode).
The interview turns to Ricardo and both Alan and Andrea congratulate him on how well his career is going. Just four years ago he made an appearance on their show when he was just starting out in the biz. Now, in addition to his recurring role as a cop in Mujeres Asesinas, he’s had a great turn as a villain (Ni Contigo Ni Sin Ti), and now as the very in-love/loyal Rodolfo in AB, a tn with high ratings. Ricardo thanks the Hoy folks and AB producer Carlos Moreno for giving him these great opportunities. He hopes to work again soon with Carlos and the same team, as do they all—even Andrea gives a shout out to Carlos for a bit part someday.
Luis is next to speak about his character, Hipolito. Carlos called him up and asked him to take on this part. Luis speaks about what a great couple he and Yolanda made in Cuando Me Enamoro. He says that he and Yolanda have such great chemistry and communication between them, then gives a shout out to his real life wife that he loves her and has always respected her (not cheated). LOL! Yolanda admits it’s true about their chemistry, and Andrea gives a shout out to Yolanda’s real life husband (who played the husband Luis saved her from in CME—yes, this all gets confusing). Carlos wanted to repeat the pairing, and Luis happily said yes. Although there were similarities, he feels this couple was quite different from their CME couple.
Yolanda was worried about the similarities between the two situations too, because she likes the challenge of doing new things as an actress. She made the Piedad character different- in the way she carried herself, spoke, and dressed. For example, she used a super Mexican accent for Piedad (Yolanda is from Spain). This makes Luis think of a funny story. The very first scene he filmed in AB was with Yolanda and Mariana, as they walked through the square to the police station. They got to the police station, Yolanda stops, puts her hands on her hips, and says in a heavy, lispsy Spanish/Castilian accent, “We’ve arrived.” (Hemosh jyegatho/ Hemos llegado.) LOL! They all joke and tease Yolanda about this as Part 1 wraps up.
Part 2: Los Albarrán
(Juan Diego Covarrubias/Yago; René Strickler/Mariano; Norma Herrera/Rocío; and Luis Couturier/Cayetano); Interviewed by Galilea Montijo and Raúl Araiza (real life son of Norma Herrera).
Galilea asks René about the open ending for Mariano and Miriam. He says there was definitely a mutual attraction, plus, they were both dumped. Haha! But they really had a lot in common/enjoyed the same things. The writers left it open that in the future this attraction could turn into a relationship. Galilea thinks it also made the women in the audience feel better for Miriam, that she also had the possibility of love. And Mariano too, who had for so long been in love with Camila, René notes. He deserved love.
Next is Juan Diego/Yago. He describes Yago’s end as alone, without money, and in the cantina- even exchanging his super watch from his suegro for a bottle of tequila. JD asks, what more could you expect from a person like Yago? René doesn’t see the situation as being so dark, because the family left the door open for Yago to return to them. He could always get on the right path in the future, if he chooses.
Luis/Cayetano is asked about Isadora, who Raúl describes as more venomous than a cobra. Luis says it was easy for Caye to fall for her because she was always really good to him, and she’s hot. Haha! Raúl agrees that one weapon women can use to manipulate men is their beauty, their sexuality, passion. Norma is skeptical, but Raúl brings up the fact that Rocío can’t talk, as she was no saint herself.
Norma says Rocío was young, and Daniel Monterde was hot, all dressed up in his charro suit, plus he was owner of La Malquerida—but of course, money was not important to Rocío. Ha, ha! She feels that Rocío truly fell in love with him, but unfortunately he didn’t feel the same. But in the end it was for best. The Albarran family remained united, and she had another blonde son- Pablo (easy to pass off as an Albarran), who even became the favorite of Cayetano. Raúl thinks Rocío was easy (light in the shorts). Juan Diego jokingly agrees that that’s why they had to teach her a lesson/put her in her place. René jokes about Norma speaking post-stroke, and them teasing her during filming that she shouldn’t drink so early in the mornings. LOL! Norma believes that, on the whole, Rocío was a good wife and mother.
Raúl asks how they all felt about their characters’ endings. Norma HATED having to do the stroke talking, and was happy that at the end she was back to normal. René likes that Mariano may end up with Miriam. He thinks it’s an interesting ending, and his daughter would have the mother she wanted. Juan Diego jokes that he wishes for once the villain could win in the case of Yago. He would have liked for Yago to get back on the right path. But he also would have liked for Yago to end up on a big yacht surrounded by beautiful women- preferably topless. Luis/Cayetano jokes that he suspects that Yago wasn’t his kid either. They all tease Norma to come clean, and tell the truth finally. LOL!
Galilea brings up the beloved Magda Guzmán/Refugio, who can’t be with them that day. Norma says that Magda for her is really like her nana and her mother. They had most of their scenes together. It was a pleasure to work with her. They were neighbors years before, for over 10 years. Their families are close friends with each other—they know each other’s kids (she points to Raúl, and Armando Araiza is her other son). But in all these years, they had never worked with each other until now, and it was a pleasure. Magda (who is 81) has an amazing work ethic, and despite not being in the best of health, suffering from lots of colds, and the wet/chilly AB locations in the haciendas, she was an amazing example of punctuality and professionalism.
Galilea asks what they are each planning next. (Keep in mind that this was late October and the November-January holiday season was upcoming.) Juan Diego misses his family in Guadalajara and wants to enjoy some time with them. (Prior to AB he spent over a year filming Una Familia con Suerte, so he has been away from home a while.) He will be back in tns after that, and Galilea hopes as a good guy this time. René is headed home to his family in Patagonia in Argentina to rest for a while- shout out to his mom. Norma has been ordered by her sons to rest, and they’ve booked her on a cruise. She’ll rest for a little while, but hates to not be working, so she’ll be back to work soon. Luis also wants a bit of a rest after coming off of multiple tns and theater work, like Norma did. He’s headed to Puebla tomorrow. Raúl knows from his mom how exhausting it was for them to travel all around and to and from the hacienda filming locations. He congratulates them all on their work, especially young Juan Diego. He also thinks it’s good that JD wants to spend time with his family, as many people take that for granted these days.
Part 3: The Scoobies
(Alan Estrada/Aaron; Fernanda Castillo/Viviana; María Sorté/Amanda; and Alex Sirvent/Rafael); Interviewed by Alan Tacher and Alessandra Rosaldo.
María/Amanda is all smiles about her AB experience. It was an excellent experience! She credits much of the success of the tn to the fabulous script (guion), written by Martha Carrillo and Cristina Garcia. The script makes the telenovela. She loved her character of Amanda because she never betrayed who she was/the character remained true to herself. Often times with a character, they suddenly do something that doesn’t fit with their character, and it makes the actor ask, what happened? This was not the case with Amanda. The way she handled Natalia’s pregnancy was a perfect example. Even though Amanda told the lie about Nat’s father, she was a good person, and in the end her lie came to light anyway when Dionisio showed up.
Maria loved her ending with the Chiapas wedding to Osvaldo. But she really loved her final showdown with Dionisio in front of the church! Fernanda/Vivi jumps in and teases Maria about how she REALLY got into telling Dionisio off during the filming of that scene. Alan Estrada/Aaron likes that the good guys in AB weren’t so good to the point of being stupid. But the good guys also got to make mistakes like regular people.
Alan E. points out the example of Vivi, whose bad experience with Bruno made it difficult for her to give herself over to Rafa. They then tease that there was at least one instance when she had NO problem doing just that, hubba hubba! (I think they mean the hot kitchen table scene; at least I think that was their hottest scene.) Alex/Rafa says it was a pleasure to work with such a great actress like Fernanda. Alex and his wife Ximena fell in love while seeing a live musical that Alan E. and Fernanda were starring in—they saw it three times. It was a gift to be able to work next to these two great talents. Alan T. teases Alan E. (who was a host on Hoy at the time) for being away filming AB more than he was at work on Hoy. Alan E. gives a shout out to his Hoy bosses, thanking them for letting him do AB. He made up for it by interviewing his castmates for Hoy, but by a certain point he had interviewed everybody, and he refused to interview them anymore. They joke about this.
Alessandra notes that although Alex, Fernanda and Alan E. were already successful actors, musicians, and theater stars, starring in such a successful tn like AB must have represented a parting of the waters/a turning point for them. Fernanda loved her character, and especially loved that her character wasn’t just the best friend of the protagonist- she had an important message. People often think that an abused woman is always poor, uneducated, and submissive. People don’t realize that it can also happen to a strong, independent woman. But what she loved the most about the experience was the great cast and team on AB, who she learned so much from. They had such a good time working together that they didn’t want it to end. They formed wonderful friendships. Working with Silvia N. was like taking a course on interpretation and improvisation. It was a luxury working with people who are not only such good actors, but also good people. Alex mentions how much they enjoyed spending time together—they would go from filming, to the gym together, then out to eat together, and out to events and even traveling together. They had a guys’ club (El Club de Tobi) and a girls’ club (El Club de Lulu), and they had the names of the clubs posted on their trailers.
Maria gives a warm shout out to Florencia/Natalia, and sends her hugs and kisses. Alan E. thanks producer Carlos M. for allowing him to be in a tn with high ratings for the first time. LOL! Fernanda teasingly scolds him for saying that. Alan E. speaks about how important telenovelas are in Mexican culture. People really get into them, and call you by your character’s name on the streets and try to get info out of you about what’s going to happen. And people hated Isadora with a passion. When the audience gets so involved emotionally in a tn is when you know it’s working.
Alessandra mentions that she and Alex have known each other a long time, since they were practically kids. She thinks he’s grown a lot as an actor, and even more so in this tn. Alex believes that the large amount of talent in AB made them each better. As did the generosity and empathy of the castmates, and the leadership of Carlos M. *Applause for Carlos.* (Alex also mentions the challenge of having to memorize the script, which allowed them to improvise. Often tn actors have an earpiece where someone feeds them their lines. With so much dialogue to remember each day, this a very helpful, but it doesn’t allow for much improvisation. You can sometimes catch a glimpse of these earpieces when the camera accidently catches the actor on the wrong side.)
Alan E. says they’re going to kill him for telling this…but shares the story anyway. He talks about how nervous both Fernanda and Alex/Alejandro were when they did their first love scene, because they were such good friends and had never done a love scene together before. They both took Alan aside privately and spoke to him about their anxiety. They did the scene with tape covering their private bits, but it took a whole three hours to get through (their nerves got the better of them), and Alan had to wait around for them to finish. Alessandra and Alan T. thank them and say that the camaraderie among the cast came across and translated into ratings.
Part 4: Los Farcas
(Lisset/Miriam; and Carlos Embry/Abraham); Interviewed by Galilea M. and Alan T.
(Lisset/Miriam; and Carlos Embry/Abraham); Interviewed by Galilea M. and Alan T.
Galilea speaks about how much Miriam suffered. She, Dan, and Camila were just victims of the circumstances. Lisset/Miriam says the character of Miriam was well drawn. Galilea compliments her on being able to do the Chilean accent. Lisset credits CdlF and Carlos/Abraham with being great accent/dialect coaches. She also has a musical ear (she’s a singer) so that helped her to be able to mimic the accent. Carlos acknowledges that the Chilean accent is difficult because they swallow their ‘s’ and ‘d’ sounds, and the ends of words. Lisset would read her script and ask Carlos to read it to her in “Chilean”, so that she could hear how it should sound. They all agree that the Chilean accent and country are beautiful.
Galilea mentions that this is Carlos’ first telenovela in Mexico. Carlos says he was very happy with the experience. Especially since he’s making his debut in Mexico in a tn with high ratings. Speaking about his character Abraham, he says the fault really started with this inheritance Dan got in Mexico, and that Abraham was really only making decisions based on the information and evidence he had. He was also being a protective brother, as they were orphans and he had to both look out for his family fortune and his little sister. Alan T. makes a joke from his experience within his own Jewish family, “qué el dinero es el dinero!” Galilea thinks Miriam accepted the love between Dan and Cam bravely. Lisset agrees that Miriam approached it with dignity—she’s a fighter, brave, honest—very similar to Camila. She was really in love with the character. Alan wonders if Lisset has abandoned her singing career. Nope. She’s doing tns, theater, as well as her singing. Carlos plans to stay in Mexico for a little while to work on other projects.
Part 5: The Villains
(Jose Elias Moreno/Leoncio; Leticia Calderón/Isadora; Flavio Medina/Alonso; and César Évora/Dionisio); Interviewed by Alessandra R. and Raul A.
(Jose Elias Moreno/Leoncio; Leticia Calderón/Isadora; Flavio Medina/Alonso; and César Évora/Dionisio); Interviewed by Alessandra R. and Raul A.
The first question is for Leti/Isa. Why did she accept this role? Because she loves playing villains! Her first tn villain was Tia Carlota/Carloca (En Nombre del Amor) and she loved it. Carlos Moreno took a risk and gave her the opportunity to play a villain, and he actually visualized HER in the role (of Tia Carlota). Carlos kept telling her that he had another project and role for her- Isadora. She loved it, and she loved the idea of working with these great vet actors, and Flavio/Alonso, who she didn’t know before but who she’s now adopted like a son. Her biggest challenge was to make the character completely different than Tia Carlota, and she achieved it. Raul asks about the source of Isadora’s evil. Leti thinks it was ambition/greed. There was a coldness and cynicism about her—for this reason they went with the platinum haired look and metallic makeup. With Tia Carlota, her motivation was lack/want of love (desamor). Alessandra thinks Isadora was just completely evil. Leti mentions the cutting of Leo’s tongue as an example of this. Jose Elias/Leoncio begins to joke around and mumble like he has no tongue. Alessandra says what a teddy bear Jose Elias is in real life and they share a warm embrace. He really does look like a sweet guy.
Raul asks Jose Elias if he liked playing this role, because he knows he loves doing comedy, directing and writing. Jose Elias thinks that these four villains allowed them to exorcise their demons. These characters did things that they would never do and never think to do in real life—like his final scene with Isadora and all the things he did to her; or Isadora killing her son. Raul turns to Flavio and says he was an absolute revelation in this role as Alonso. He worked alongside these great veteran actors and totally held his own and did an amazing job. Flavio thinks it was a combination of a lot of things- luck or destiny. Also working with such amazing human beings, who aren’t just talented, but also great people, who he could always count on and were generous with him. He learned a lot; they had a great time together; plus his character was just a really well conceived character, with an interesting love/hate relationship with his mother. Alessandra mentions that Flavio is also a really talented stage actor (at the time he was headlining a play). The recording appears to fade out and then in, leading me to believe that they cut part of the interview out.
Alessandra congratulates Flavio on his successes and they move on to Cesar/Dionisio. Raul is obviously quite fond of Cesar as he keeps caressing his leg, but really, who could resist El Cubano? They tease Cesar about his deep voice (which sounds particularly deep today), and he jokes that when he wakes up each morning, before his coffee, he actually sounds like a chipmunk. LOL! Raul points out that Cesar does it all—good guys, bad guys—did he like this role? He had a lot of fun playing Dionisio-- a guy who was so shameless/cynical. He made up a saying, “Aquí todo pase gracias a Dio…a Dionisio.” LOL! He really had a lot of fun with the role, but what made it even better were his marvelous colleagues/castmates. The shamelessness of Dionisio was a pleasure to play—the way that he smoothly manipulated people and circumstances. He had a tremendous ego and ambition.
Cesar then teases that he and Pepe (Jose Elias) have an announcement to make—the real reason why Dionisio was crying in that final scene in the prison… He was remembering what a terrible roommate Leoncio was when he lived in Dion’s house-- back when Leoncio was sporting bandana-head, like (old school/before she got a new, less racist, hairdo in the 90s) Aunt Jemima. There is a lot of chuckling and much of the joke goes right by me and over my head. The vets have known each other many years, have worked together before, and will surely work with each other again. Leti comments on what gentlemen and great guys Cesar and Jose Elias have always been. She thanks Carlos M. for this opportunity. Her castmates join in the thanks.
Part 6: The Protagonists
(Silvia Navarro/Camila and Cristian de la Fuente/Daniel); Interviewed by Alan T. and Andrea L.
(Silvia Navarro/Camila and Cristian de la Fuente/Daniel); Interviewed by Alan T. and Andrea L.
This segment hast to be prefaced with an explanation that Andrea L. has a HUGE crush on CdlF. He is her “Number One” telenovio, and she often speaks about him in a lustful/fangirl way on the show. She has worn a particularly sexy outfit today because she will have the opportunity to interview and be close to her Number One.
Cristian starts things off by pulling Andrea’s chair closer to his. She is wearing a short black dress, over which she demurely holds an Amor Bravio bulls head pillow, black fishnet stockings, and black do-me stilettos. Alan T. gets on his knees and gives a thanks up to the Lord, that after ALL these months of listening to Andrea drool over CdlF, he is finally here there next to Andrea and she can finally declare if CdlF is indeed her Number One. Andrea is tongue tied and blushing, but confirms that CdlF is her Number One, and he sure does smell good too. CdlF is all smiles. SN chuckles. Andrea says she envied SN every night when she watched AB. CdlF reaches over and gives Andrea a hug.
Then CdlF reaches over and greets Alan with a handshake, saying it’s nice to see him here and not on a plane (they both go back and forth to Miami a lot). Alan says he’s had the pleasure of knowing SN for many years—she’s a great friend and a great actress. SN mentions that they were even practically family for a time when she dated his cousin Sammy--- shout out to Sammy. Alan says it was easy to tell what great actors they both are while watching AB. CdlF says that working with Silvia made it easy—she’s a great actress. CdlF and SN high five each other. Then CdlF reaches out and gives her a big hug, saying he’s going to miss her! Then he asks if she’s going to miss him, and she says…NO. LOL! He kisses her shoulder playfully as they part.
Andrea notes that it’s rare to see a tn couple that really transmits love/chemistry/etc., and SN and CdlF did. SN jokes, pointing to the hotness that is CdlF, “Andrea, do you really think it was going to be hard for me?” Alan says that it also wouldn’t be difficult for any man with her. CdlF agrees. Andrea compliments SN on being such an amazing actress. She's a SN fan. SN makes the viewer cry and feel every emotion in each moment. SN thanks Andrea for her nice words.
There are some microphone issues and Andrea wonders if she’s the one causing them. CdlF says she is fine, more than FINE in fact, with those stockings…UUFF! He shakes his head in wonder and they all laugh. Alan says she wore them especially for him. CdlF says it’s not just the stockings, but also the heels. He leans over and caresses Andrea’s calf (showing how the heels make them flex) and shows her legs off to the camera. Andrea has to fan herself. SN is chuckling. The guys start talking about what turns them on as far as women wearing stockings and high heels. The both likey the stockings and high heels look. SN gives them both a look like, “Really dudes?” They take the hint to get back to the subject at hand—the AB Finale.
The finale made them all cry, and really affected SN. She feels this love between Cam and Dan was a very deep/profound love. She really enjoyed it and had a great time with CdlF. Andrea wonders if this is her favorite role so far. Silvia says she can’t choose a favorite, but she really enjoyed playing Renata in Cuando Me Enamoro, and she really enjoyed playing Camila in AB. Working with that special muchacho CdlF made it even better. CdlF acts like he doesn’t believe her, and she says she’s for real as they chuckle and tease each other. CdlF says they “fight” like this all the time.
Alan asks CdlF what is was like to dress in a charro suit, being a Chilean. SN says he could barely sit in them. CdlF gets up to show how he had to struggle to sit down in those tight charro pants. He managed to hang on to a charro suit that belonged to Don Vicente and jokes that he’s going to sell off all the silver from the sides of the pants. In the beginning, dressing in a charro suit, being a Chilean, was challenging. But then Don Vicente and others spoke to him about the history and significance of the charro suit, and then he was proud to wear it. He dressed in them with elegance and respect, and it was a wonderful experience. He’s going to miss it. He might even dress in a charro suit once a week from now on. Andrea can barely contain her drool or come up with a coherent sentence.
Alan says that CdlF needs to keep doing tns so that he can come back regularly. CdlF instead extends an invitation to Alan to come to his house for a meal in Miami (these two are actually friends in real life). But he will be in Carlos Moreno’s next tn, which will start in 2013 sometime. CdlF confirms with Carlos who is somewhere unseen in the audience. Alan wonders if it will be the same cast. SN says no, she won’t be there. Andrea wonders why SN isn’t going to be a part, and CdlF flirtatiously suggests that Andrea could be the protagonist, as he snuggles up closer to her. Andrea looks like she’s going to spontaneously combust. They then joke that Andrea could have a small part, like maybe a cousin or something. SN says, in all seriousness, she knows Andrea is a great actress. They all make a joking plea to Martha (writer) who’s in the audience, to write a part for Andrea.
Andrea asks what SN will be doing in the coming year. She will be doing theater work, and she will also be working on a movie project. She also wants some down time, and has to get healthy from injuries sustained during AB filming—her collar bone got displaced while working with a bull in a scene. She shows off the collar bone sticking out which will require surgery. CdlF mentions that she will also be focusing on her restaurant, Sabor Amor. Andrea mentions what a success her restaurant has been. CdlF loves the food there—his favorite dish is “La Protagonista”, which comes out sounding risqué, so SN explains it’s a salad with goat cheese. LOL! It seems some of this interview gets cut off, because we head straight to our next/final segment.
Part 7: The Entire Cast and Crew
There is much laughing and joking around and it’s fun to see everyone in one place, including the young actress who played Ana (Macarena Garcia). They break to show highlights from the finale, which we don’t see, but when they come back Producer Carlos Moreno has the microphone, and SN is sitting in front of him on the floor. It’s obvious there is much love between this producer and his leading lady as he even caresses her face at one point.
The Hoy folks jokingly want to know if CdlF, El Chileno, was a diva (threw tantrums) on set. Carlos says CdlF is a great guy (un tipazo), a great colleague, and dedicated. And he has worked hard NOT to lose his Chilean accent. LOL! SN throws in a good natured jab at CdlF’s accent. Andrea says it’s rare to find a production where everyone likes each other so much. CdlF says they don’t like each other…they ADORE each other. Awww! Andrea thanks them all for coming, and throws another hint to Martha for a role in the next tn, one where she gets to kiss CdlF. Martha jokes that many pesos are going to have to be laid down for that to happen. “I thought we were hermanas Martha! Please!” Chuckles, smiles, and clapping as we fade out and the cast of AB says a final goodbye to all of us in the audience.
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Fantastic job, Vivi. Thank you.
I agree that it was more like a visit of friends and colleagues than the old Cristina interviews. I do miss the latter, but enjoyed this format and the content very much.
I may have gotten the biggest kick out of the villains. Three veterans who have indeed seen it all, but were fun and funny and gracious with a newcomer.
It's a real tribute to producer Carlos that everyone spoke of the warm and collaborative atmosphere on the set.
I agree that it was more like a visit of friends and colleagues than the old Cristina interviews. I do miss the latter, but enjoyed this format and the content very much.
I may have gotten the biggest kick out of the villains. Three veterans who have indeed seen it all, but were fun and funny and gracious with a newcomer.
It's a real tribute to producer Carlos that everyone spoke of the warm and collaborative atmosphere on the set.
You're welcome Traveling Lady!
I also really enjoyed the format. I feel like they fit more cast members in this way.
ITA that Carlos Moreno should be proud that he was able to create such a great atmosphere among his actors.
I also really enjoyed the format. I feel like they fit more cast members in this way.
ITA that Carlos Moreno should be proud that he was able to create such a great atmosphere among his actors.
Thanks for the info. It's really hard to understand them in a casual setting without even spanish subtitles. They looked like a fun group of people. Shame they couldn't have Maja there though too.
Kelly
Kelly
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: Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 4:31:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 4:31:00 PM EDT
Thanks Vivi. Flaco and I were just talking yesterday how it was too bad Cristina couldn't do TN finale specials. This makes up for it. I haven't watched the show yet. It will be easier to understand now that I've read your recap.
Interesting info about the earpieces.
Nanette
Interesting info about the earpieces.
Nanette
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 4:35:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 4:35:00 PM EDT
Super bonus Vivi, muchisimas gracias
What a great cast, it does really seem that they truly like & respect each other.I also like to see the villains most. Leo looks like a teddy bear. He plays nasty very well in this & Pasion.
Can't blame Andrea for being so goofy over CdlF, he is Hot & has a cute personality. He was enjoying ringing her bell.
SN was still in character wearing ranch attire.
I read she is going to Telemundo, maybe the reason for the snub, since there can be no argument that she was far the best actor.
What a great cast, it does really seem that they truly like & respect each other.I also like to see the villains most. Leo looks like a teddy bear. He plays nasty very well in this & Pasion.
Can't blame Andrea for being so goofy over CdlF, he is Hot & has a cute personality. He was enjoying ringing her bell.
SN was still in character wearing ranch attire.
I read she is going to Telemundo, maybe the reason for the snub, since there can be no argument that she was far the best actor.
I notice quite a number of giddy remarks about working on a hit. Any ideas about how much of a success AB was? I can't make much sense out of what I have seen about ratings. This would bode well for the producer again surrounding C de la F with lots of talent, no?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 8:01:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 8:01:00 PM EDT
Anon 8:01- Yep. It obviously did well because they were all pleased about the ratings. Carlos Moreno already was able to attract big/established talent, just going by the big names he got on board for his last three tns. The big question, and what will really make the difference with CdlF's performance, is who will be the leading lady? The chemistry between the leads, and their likeability/appeal to the audience, can make or break a tn.
Off-topic: I was going through the guide for this weekend and saw that a series/special (not sure which, Dish's info writes it like that with the backslash....but probably a special) called "Imperio de Maldad: Grandes Villanos de TV y Novelas" is on Univision from midnight to 2 am tonight. My translation of the info given: "A look back at the greatest and most perverse villains in the history of novelas."
Karamy
Karamy
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 8:22:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 8:22:00 PM EDT
Thank you for posting this Vivi, especially the work of translating it. I love seeing the actors as normal human beings after these TNs where they play someone so out of their character. Leoncio comes to mind. I've not seen him in another TN and it's refreshing to see him as a regular guy.
I feel like Andrea and I are sisters who are in love with the same guy. I would have acted just as she does if I sat next to Cristian. She was so cute how she was embarrassed by his attention. It looked like Cristian had on jeggings. They are skinnier pants than skinny jeans. They leave nothing to the imagination. I wish he would have stood up at some time during the interview.
You know the mark of a good show when all the actors get along and enjoy being with each other, on and off the screen. That seems to be the one factor of a successful show. I've seen this in American shows as well.
I feel like Andrea and I are sisters who are in love with the same guy. I would have acted just as she does if I sat next to Cristian. She was so cute how she was embarrassed by his attention. It looked like Cristian had on jeggings. They are skinnier pants than skinny jeans. They leave nothing to the imagination. I wish he would have stood up at some time during the interview.
You know the mark of a good show when all the actors get along and enjoy being with each other, on and off the screen. That seems to be the one factor of a successful show. I've seen this in American shows as well.
I really enjoy Jose Elias Moreno. I've seen him in roles as the nice guy and he can be a real sweetie. I think I like him best as a villain though--loved him in Pasion and liked the bits I saw of him here.
La Paloma
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 9:26:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 9:26:00 PM EDT
Vivi thanks so much for this link and your recap. I will be working through over the next day or so to keep me from AB withdrawal.
I so enjoy behind the scenes/cast interviews. As others have mentioned its also fun when its obvious the cast enjoy one another.
I so enjoy behind the scenes/cast interviews. As others have mentioned its also fun when its obvious the cast enjoy one another.
Muchísimas gracias, Vivi, for this great regalo. I started watching it earlier today, and though I was enjoying it, I was also finding it at times depressingly hard to understand. Now that I've read through your wonderfully detailed account, I'll give it another try.
What surprised me most was the appearance of the actor who played Yago. I kept looking at him and thinking, "he looks familiar, but what role did he play?" I was amazed when it became clear he had been Yago. All the other actors I saw looked pretty much the same as they did in the TN, but "Yago" is MUCH better looking in Real Life than in the TN.
Even with your very impressive command of Spanish, doing this must have taken a good deal of time and effort. I'm so glad you were willing to do it. MANY THANKS!!
What surprised me most was the appearance of the actor who played Yago. I kept looking at him and thinking, "he looks familiar, but what role did he play?" I was amazed when it became clear he had been Yago. All the other actors I saw looked pretty much the same as they did in the TN, but "Yago" is MUCH better looking in Real Life than in the TN.
Even with your very impressive command of Spanish, doing this must have taken a good deal of time and effort. I'm so glad you were willing to do it. MANY THANKS!!
Vivi thanks for bringing this special here, I had seen parts of it but not all.
I thought it was hilarious how everytime Andrea tried to speak CdlF would do something to make her blush. Poor Silvia having to have that surgery, that accident must have really hurt.
I love the shout outs to Hoy No Me Puedo Levantar because that was such a fun play and Fernanda got to do the role in Spain and produce the play there.
I think Fernanda will be great in El Señor de los Cielos, she was a fantastic villain in Mujeres Asesinas and I hope she gets a role that lets her shine as much as the producer of that novela made Vanesa Guzmán shine in Infames.
Marta Carrillo and Andrea Legarreta are actually best friends and comadres. Martha worked for Hoy as a journalist during its beginings in the 90's and Andrea was the youngest of the hosts back then. They made their own entertainment news show together called Aquí Entre Dos for a while but both had too many commitments and they ended it after 2 years on air. Andrea always watches and supports Martha's novelas and Matha works on and off in Hoy when she is free.
Alan Tacher worked in TV Azteca for many years so that's where his friendship with Silvia Navarro comes from. Silvia hosted a reality show for a while about young people wanting to become telenovela stars and Alan was the "godfather" of the show.
I loved how happy Olivia Bucio was about her character's death lol. Since it was almost at the end she didn't have to worry too much about losing a job but got to do great scenes with SN.
About the rumours of Silvia going to Telemundo: I doubt it would be because of the TVyNovelas' snub though. Silvia wasn't even eligible for the first 10 years of her career for the awards so she cares very little for them. I think if she goes, it must be because they have given her an interesting offer in terms of character and story or possibly money.
Jarocha
I thought it was hilarious how everytime Andrea tried to speak CdlF would do something to make her blush. Poor Silvia having to have that surgery, that accident must have really hurt.
I love the shout outs to Hoy No Me Puedo Levantar because that was such a fun play and Fernanda got to do the role in Spain and produce the play there.
I think Fernanda will be great in El Señor de los Cielos, she was a fantastic villain in Mujeres Asesinas and I hope she gets a role that lets her shine as much as the producer of that novela made Vanesa Guzmán shine in Infames.
Marta Carrillo and Andrea Legarreta are actually best friends and comadres. Martha worked for Hoy as a journalist during its beginings in the 90's and Andrea was the youngest of the hosts back then. They made their own entertainment news show together called Aquí Entre Dos for a while but both had too many commitments and they ended it after 2 years on air. Andrea always watches and supports Martha's novelas and Matha works on and off in Hoy when she is free.
Alan Tacher worked in TV Azteca for many years so that's where his friendship with Silvia Navarro comes from. Silvia hosted a reality show for a while about young people wanting to become telenovela stars and Alan was the "godfather" of the show.
I loved how happy Olivia Bucio was about her character's death lol. Since it was almost at the end she didn't have to worry too much about losing a job but got to do great scenes with SN.
About the rumours of Silvia going to Telemundo: I doubt it would be because of the TVyNovelas' snub though. Silvia wasn't even eligible for the first 10 years of her career for the awards so she cares very little for them. I think if she goes, it must be because they have given her an interesting offer in terms of character and story or possibly money.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 11:18:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 13, 2013 at 11:18:00 PM EDT
Jarocha- Yay! Thanks for dropping in amiga. I always love the bits of insider info you share with us, and I store it away in my memory bank. I also loved Olivia’s reaction to her character’s fate. She seems like such a bubbly lady. And Andrea’s pleas to Martha are even funnier, knowing that they are best friends. She may get that small role kissing CdlF after all! I didn’t know Alan T. had gone from Azteca to Televisa, and now he’s on Univision on their morning show. Good for him. That’s quite the career trajectory.
As for SN, it seems like she’s in no hurry to sign with any particular studio right now. She should take the time to rest up and concentrate on her many other projects. That injury does look painful, and it says a lot about her work ethic that she went on for months like that, not letting it affect her work on the show. I can’t believe they let their stars get so close to the bulls though! What kind of insurance does Televisa have on its stars?! LOL!
As for SN, it seems like she’s in no hurry to sign with any particular studio right now. She should take the time to rest up and concentrate on her many other projects. That injury does look painful, and it says a lot about her work ethic that she went on for months like that, not letting it affect her work on the show. I can’t believe they let their stars get so close to the bulls though! What kind of insurance does Televisa have on its stars?! LOL!
Juanita- You’re very welcome! I like challenging my real world Spanish listening skills like this every now and then. It was quite difficult at times when everyone was speaking over each other and laughing at the same time. But it was fun watching them anyway. Isn’t it amazing what a haircut and a sincere smile can do? Juan Diego (Yago) is quite the cutie.
Cathyx- I’d be right there with you and Andrea. I’d need one of those Leoncio mouth guards to sop up the drool if CdlF were sitting next to me and flirting with me like that. Variopinta- CdlF really was having a good time making Andrea blush.
Karamy- Thanks for the heads-up. I hope they show that special again…at a normal time. Sounds like it was good.
Variopinta and La Paloma- This was the first role I’ve seen Jose Elias (Leoncio) in, so it was really nice to see him in normal person mode, and to see that he’s such a sweet guy in real life.
Karen and Cathyx- ITA. It comes through on screen when the cast really likes each other.
Nanette- I’d love to hear what you and Flaco think after watching the special.
Cathyx- I’d be right there with you and Andrea. I’d need one of those Leoncio mouth guards to sop up the drool if CdlF were sitting next to me and flirting with me like that. Variopinta- CdlF really was having a good time making Andrea blush.
Karamy- Thanks for the heads-up. I hope they show that special again…at a normal time. Sounds like it was good.
Variopinta and La Paloma- This was the first role I’ve seen Jose Elias (Leoncio) in, so it was really nice to see him in normal person mode, and to see that he’s such a sweet guy in real life.
Karen and Cathyx- ITA. It comes through on screen when the cast really likes each other.
Nanette- I’d love to hear what you and Flaco think after watching the special.
Jarocha,
Good to hear from you.
I didn't know TV y Novelas had an eligibility period. Has SN been with Televisa 10 years? Doesn't seem like it. That doesn't make sense anyway, best is best no matter when you were hired.
My thought was that she was snubbed because she was leaving.
Good to hear from you.
I didn't know TV y Novelas had an eligibility period. Has SN been with Televisa 10 years? Doesn't seem like it. That doesn't make sense anyway, best is best no matter when you were hired.
My thought was that she was snubbed because she was leaving.
Variopinta- The first 10 years of SN's career was with Azteca, and only the last 4 years she's been with Televisa, that's why she wasn't eligible before. I'm glad that she doesn't see the TVyNovelas Premios as being that important since she wasn't groomed within the Televisa universe.
Vivi
"go into your memory bank" never to be forgotten, unlike me.
I much prefer Isa's slobber pad to Leo's, it was more feminine.
"go into your memory bank" never to be forgotten, unlike me.
I much prefer Isa's slobber pad to Leo's, it was more feminine.
Variopinta- SN was wearing her ranch wear, and did you notice little Macarena/Ana was also wearing her ranch wear? And Lisset/Miriam was wearing the same jacket she was wearing in the scene in the finale when DanCam return to the house with Agatha.
Whether Sylvia doesn't care that she's not nominated because she's not been with Televisa isn't the point. The point is that Televisa people are in the show business and should recognize good talent when they see it. She's been with them for 4 years. That's long enough for them to see her talent.
ITA Cathyx. It's good that SN doesn't take the snub to heart, but to show it's a bisuness with legitimacy, Televisa should recognize the talent it has. The fact that her contract is coming to an end after she poured her heart and soul into three successful tns for them, is even more reason for them to recognize her work now.
Thanks, Vivi. I have watched a small part of this show and plan to watch more when able. I would be so, so, lost if I didn't have your synopsis of the show. Your spanish skills are enviable!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 10:12:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 10:12:00 AM EDT
The more I think about it, the more I think SN is leaving Televisa. I can understand that they wouldn't want to promote a star that's going to another network. When she left Azteca, you got no results searching her name on their site.
And maybe SN doesn't care that she didn't get nominated, but we do.
Someone said her name was mentioned before the final decision. I repeat !!!VICTORIA RUFFO!!!!???????QTF?
And maybe SN doesn't care that she didn't get nominated, but we do.
Someone said her name was mentioned before the final decision. I repeat !!!VICTORIA RUFFO!!!!???????QTF?
That's an interesting point, Variopinta, maybe they don't want to nominate someone who is leaving for another network. But how do you explain the previous years?
cathyx,
SN was nominated for CME, Angelica Boyer worn for Teresa.
Anyone? I see Lagrimas is on cap 108, according to telenovela world the fin is cap 111. Are you on the last wk?
Corazon Indomable is on after that.
SN was nominated for CME, Angelica Boyer worn for Teresa.
Anyone? I see Lagrimas is on cap 108, according to telenovela world the fin is cap 111. Are you on the last wk?
Corazon Indomable is on after that.
Vivi in DC, YIKES!!! This is ABSOLUTELY fantastic that you did this for us! What a wonderful, wonderful surprise. Somehow, it makes things a little less sad.
Thank you SO much Vivi in DC!!
Fatima
Thank you SO much Vivi in DC!!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
Variopinta, I don't know if you saw both of those TNs, but I have, and there is no comparison to the acting abilities between those 2 ladies. That Boyer won over Navaro is a disgrace.
Vivi: There should be a special about injuries on set. They would have alot to choose from.
Both Tachers (Alan and Mark) started their careers in TV Azteca. First Alan and then Mark, I like them both, they seem very nice and down to earth.
I hope Silvia gets to do the film she mentioned here. I know she loves making films and it is hard to get those projects off the ground here.
About TVyNovelas Awards:
These awards are from Televisa to Televisa. The magazine and judges all work for Televisa and they usually pick those actors they consider did the best for Televisa in the year.
Coróna de Lágrimas and Un Refugio para el Amor overperformed, both novelas were on at 4pm and were constantly beating the novela at 6 pm and sometimes reaching the ratings of the one at 7 pm. This is why Zuria Vega and Victoria Ruffo are nominated. Abismo de Pasión recovered the 9pm timeslot, which had been underperforming for a long time thanks to Salvador Mejía's novelas (I think the dip started with Corazón Salvaje 2009), so Angelique Boyer gets the nomination.
The year Angelique won for Teresa was more because of the huge success of Teresa than for her performance.
Victoria Ruffo wasn't nominated for Triunfo because that novela was a big failure in Mexico but I'm almost sure she'll win this year for Corona, because they love to give awards to their veterans (again, these are the awards for the people who have given the most to Televisa).
Silvia has one thing against her: the TVyNovelas director hates her. He's gonna use every excuse not to nominate her if he can.
I heard Lucero and Jaime Camil were added to the nominations because their fans joined and rallied for them (Lucero's fans can be particularly scary) and the executives of Televisa gave the order to add them. Maybe Silvia's fans can do that next time, although Silvia's fans also tend to care less about these awards from what I've seen.
Jarocha
Both Tachers (Alan and Mark) started their careers in TV Azteca. First Alan and then Mark, I like them both, they seem very nice and down to earth.
I hope Silvia gets to do the film she mentioned here. I know she loves making films and it is hard to get those projects off the ground here.
About TVyNovelas Awards:
These awards are from Televisa to Televisa. The magazine and judges all work for Televisa and they usually pick those actors they consider did the best for Televisa in the year.
Coróna de Lágrimas and Un Refugio para el Amor overperformed, both novelas were on at 4pm and were constantly beating the novela at 6 pm and sometimes reaching the ratings of the one at 7 pm. This is why Zuria Vega and Victoria Ruffo are nominated. Abismo de Pasión recovered the 9pm timeslot, which had been underperforming for a long time thanks to Salvador Mejía's novelas (I think the dip started with Corazón Salvaje 2009), so Angelique Boyer gets the nomination.
The year Angelique won for Teresa was more because of the huge success of Teresa than for her performance.
Victoria Ruffo wasn't nominated for Triunfo because that novela was a big failure in Mexico but I'm almost sure she'll win this year for Corona, because they love to give awards to their veterans (again, these are the awards for the people who have given the most to Televisa).
Silvia has one thing against her: the TVyNovelas director hates her. He's gonna use every excuse not to nominate her if he can.
I heard Lucero and Jaime Camil were added to the nominations because their fans joined and rallied for them (Lucero's fans can be particularly scary) and the executives of Televisa gave the order to add them. Maybe Silvia's fans can do that next time, although Silvia's fans also tend to care less about these awards from what I've seen.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 3:19:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 3:19:00 PM EDT
Vario: Thank you so much for the Corona last eps info. I was going to start checking my guide everyday since I want to try the TN that comes after. Now I don't have to.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 4:46:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 4:46:00 PM EDT
cathyx
I didn't see either, except bits of Teresa & was not impressed with Boyer. I was already a fan of SN from MEPS even though it wasn't the greatest TN. Then I saw Abysmal de Pasion & my impression of Boyer didn't improve.
Wish we could do sth to put the pressure on TVyN, but that is probably the Mex audience. Suppose we could all e-mail them? They have probably had the Premios in Mex. They delay them for the US audience.
Jarocha, who is the director & why does he hate her?
I think Jaime & Lucero should both be in the nominations. But SN s/b the winner in her category.
I didn't see either, except bits of Teresa & was not impressed with Boyer. I was already a fan of SN from MEPS even though it wasn't the greatest TN. Then I saw Abysmal de Pasion & my impression of Boyer didn't improve.
Wish we could do sth to put the pressure on TVyN, but that is probably the Mex audience. Suppose we could all e-mail them? They have probably had the Premios in Mex. They delay them for the US audience.
Jarocha, who is the director & why does he hate her?
I think Jaime & Lucero should both be in the nominations. But SN s/b the winner in her category.
Variopinta- It hasn't aired in Mexico yet. It's shown in Mexico at the same time it's shown here. That's why sometimes there are spoilers because a tn is still on here but has ended in Mexico and they show clips during the awards show that we haven't seen. This year, that doesn't seem to be the case because all the tns nominated, except Corana de Lagrimas, have also come to an end in the US too. And Corona will be finished in the U.S. by the time the awards happen on the 28th.
In any case, it's too late to get SN on the list. Even if it weren't too late, it would take major rabid fan pressure. From the sound of it, SN's fans are too laid back (mature?) for that.
Cachito de Cielo seems to be the only one on the nominations list that hasn't been shown in the U.S. I don't think it got good ratings, so if it came to the U.S. it would likely be on during the day.
Variopinta: The director is Juan José Origel, the issue with Silvia started back when MEPS was up for nominations, it was Origel's first time organizing the TvyNovela awards. Silvia announced right away that she wouldn't be able to attend, he got upset because he had planned something big about her introduction to Televisa or something so they didn't nominate her and he said she wasn't going to go because she wasn't nominated. Then Silvia made a statement saying she was busy and that was the reason she wouldn't go, the issue became bigger and bigger with time. In the end, Origel is just petty.
Silvia's fans did their best to get her nominated for CME and when she lost they designed their own award, got it made and delivered it to her. She loved it. They are just sick of TVyNovelas attitude towards Silvia but many of them know her from Azteca so they've gotten used to not seeing her at those awards.
Jaime Camil's fans don't care as much either since he told them once those awards were worthless but they do want to see him win. This year they got to share their cause with the Lucero fans so their voices were heard because the Lucero fans are as vocal as they can be, especially since Lucero critiziced the awards saying that that the actors are being conditioned to go to be nominated.
Jarocha
Silvia's fans did their best to get her nominated for CME and when she lost they designed their own award, got it made and delivered it to her. She loved it. They are just sick of TVyNovelas attitude towards Silvia but many of them know her from Azteca so they've gotten used to not seeing her at those awards.
Jaime Camil's fans don't care as much either since he told them once those awards were worthless but they do want to see him win. This year they got to share their cause with the Lucero fans so their voices were heard because the Lucero fans are as vocal as they can be, especially since Lucero critiziced the awards saying that that the actors are being conditioned to go to be nominated.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 5:54:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 5:54:00 PM EDT
Vivi, thank you for a fabulous gift. Do you take notes on the novelas or is your memory just scary good?
Here might be the place to mention something I read in TV&Novelas. (I think. Might be People) I saw two items re SN auditioning for the lead opposite Wm Levy in Cuna de Lobos(?). She wanted the part and didn't get it. Mejia said he was looking for "chemistry" between the leads. I thought it odd SN would even have to audition and stranger still that Mejia would diss her
Here might be the place to mention something I read in TV&Novelas. (I think. Might be People) I saw two items re SN auditioning for the lead opposite Wm Levy in Cuna de Lobos(?). She wanted the part and didn't get it. Mejia said he was looking for "chemistry" between the leads. I thought it odd SN would even have to audition and stranger still that Mejia would diss her
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 5:59:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 5:59:00 PM EDT
I can't believe...- It seems like Televisa auditioned everybody and their mama for that tn, so I don't think it was anything against SN or something she was dying to do.
Much of the stuff I remember is what our amiga Jarocha shares with us from Mexico, like she is generously doing now.
Jarocha- Thanks for the info on what the beef is. In the end, it's petty and unfair, but there is really nothing that can be done about it, and SN and her fans seem to have moved on, even if TVyNovelas hasn't.
Much of the stuff I remember is what our amiga Jarocha shares with us from Mexico, like she is generously doing now.
Jarocha- Thanks for the info on what the beef is. In the end, it's petty and unfair, but there is really nothing that can be done about it, and SN and her fans seem to have moved on, even if TVyNovelas hasn't.
Jarocha thanks for visiting us and sharing bits about new TN and the unfortunately stuff about why SN doesn't get nominated.
Vivi - were you able to find un-cut versions of the finale?
Vivi - were you able to find un-cut versions of the finale?
This is where I got my info that SN was Nominated for CME. I didn't remember
http://www.tvyespectaculos.com/2011/01/11/nominados-a-los-premios-tv-y-novelas-2011/
http://www.tvyespectaculos.com/2011/01/11/nominados-a-los-premios-tv-y-novelas-2011/
Variopinta- That looks like it was the long list, before the final nomniations. I don't think she made the final list. It was the same case this year. If you find lists from January she's on it. But the final list that comes out in April right before the awards doesn't have her on.
Vivi, I watched the bathtub scene. Yowza. I feel sorry for 5ft Latina, she said she can barely fit in her tub, but no way will her husband fit with her. My tub is pretty large, and we've both fit into it at the same time before. ;)
Lo siento mucho. I mixed up Amores Verdaderos with Lagrimas so I gave the wrong info. Apparently no one is recapping Lagrimas but it's fin is cap 111, I just don't know what cap they are on now.
Variopinta- I just looked and it seems Corona is at cap 93 on Monday, so they have about a month to go if it has 111 caps. That makes sense then why we haven't seen ads for the new 7pm show yet. I'm guessing we'll start to see the ads for Corazon Indomable soon.
Amores Verdaderos is a long one and still has a ways to go.
Amores Verdaderos is a long one and still has a ways to go.
I haven't heard anything about it, other than it being a remake of Marimar. I like both the leads though, so I hope it's good.
Vivi,
Thank you for the links to Hoy and the bath scene. Pity the censors think there's something wrong with Silvia's back or nekked people facing each other (when shot from a discrete angle). It was nice seeing our protagonists able to once again enjoy each other's company without guilt, fear, and so forth. It's not like you didn't get that point from the US version, but the more languid pace of the original seemed appropriate after their frenetic journey to get to that point. Heck, if they couldn't deal with certain parts or positions, at least substitute a few seconds of even less risque forehead kissing or whatever to match the pacing.
Per Wikipedia Corazon Indomable is going to have Rene "Mariano" Strickler as one of the baddies and Ricardo "Rodolfo(sigh)" Franco as a pilot in an apparently secondary role as a good guy.
Again, beware the Wikipedia page, it has spoiler material. I didn't realize how far along the show was and discovered the wiki page already has more than just the "set up" info including, at least, some info on what happens along the way to some characters. For once my bad Spanish and difficulty with recalling unfamiliar names may be a good thing and save me from remembering the spoiler I saw, but be careful peeking or, especially, scrolling...
Jarocha,
Thank you so much for giving some perspective about the relationship between the original Mexican time slot and expected viewership.
May I trouble you, or others in the know, to ask about just how dominant Televisa is vs. Azteca and any other networks in Mexico?
There's been some discussion here in the AB blog about folks watching a "narco" Senor de los Ceilos (spelling?) on Telemundo. Does TeleMundo track with a Mexican channel/production house the way Univision does with Televisa/Estrellas?
And does the Mexican audience have easy access to the Venezuelan, Chilean, Brazilian, etc. "originals"? Several TN on Univision seem to be Mexican remakes of foreign originals.
Chris in FL
Thank you for the links to Hoy and the bath scene. Pity the censors think there's something wrong with Silvia's back or nekked people facing each other (when shot from a discrete angle). It was nice seeing our protagonists able to once again enjoy each other's company without guilt, fear, and so forth. It's not like you didn't get that point from the US version, but the more languid pace of the original seemed appropriate after their frenetic journey to get to that point. Heck, if they couldn't deal with certain parts or positions, at least substitute a few seconds of even less risque forehead kissing or whatever to match the pacing.
Per Wikipedia Corazon Indomable is going to have Rene "Mariano" Strickler as one of the baddies and Ricardo "Rodolfo(sigh)" Franco as a pilot in an apparently secondary role as a good guy.
Again, beware the Wikipedia page, it has spoiler material. I didn't realize how far along the show was and discovered the wiki page already has more than just the "set up" info including, at least, some info on what happens along the way to some characters. For once my bad Spanish and difficulty with recalling unfamiliar names may be a good thing and save me from remembering the spoiler I saw, but be careful peeking or, especially, scrolling...
Jarocha,
Thank you so much for giving some perspective about the relationship between the original Mexican time slot and expected viewership.
May I trouble you, or others in the know, to ask about just how dominant Televisa is vs. Azteca and any other networks in Mexico?
There's been some discussion here in the AB blog about folks watching a "narco" Senor de los Ceilos (spelling?) on Telemundo. Does TeleMundo track with a Mexican channel/production house the way Univision does with Televisa/Estrellas?
And does the Mexican audience have easy access to the Venezuelan, Chilean, Brazilian, etc. "originals"? Several TN on Univision seem to be Mexican remakes of foreign originals.
Chris in FL
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 10:39:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 10:39:00 PM EDT
http://masquetelenovelas.blogspot.com/2013/04/lucero-y-jaime-camil-nominados-en.html
but still no silvia..
but still no silvia..
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 10:43:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 14, 2013 at 10:43:00 PM EDT
Boy, am I so glad I peeped in this place. Thank you all and to you especially, Vivi. Since I am virtually new to Latin telenovelas and the tv film industry, I am so lucky to have learned a lot from all of you. There is a wealth of information for me that I had never known before. Oh those machinations and business acumen and strategies and all those information regarding telenovela awards and those politics. Love them!!!! I would never have gotten them on G&F, HoY, and other shows. Once again, thank you guys and may your tribe increase!!!.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 15, 2013 at 2:03:00 AM EDT
: Monday, April 15, 2013 at 2:03:00 AM EDT
Vivi: I haven't watched yet, but Flaco did and said he liked it. He liked that there were a lot of cast members interviewed.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 15, 2013 at 4:09:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 15, 2013 at 4:09:00 PM EDT
Chris:
To give you an idea of how much Televisa dominates the tv market:
A 9 pm telenovela is expected to get 25 points of audience to say it has good ratings in Televisa.
As for TvAzteca: 12 points.
Cadena Tres: 4 points.
You can see Televisa from almost any point in the country. TV Azteca has less coverage and sometimes the signal is really bad (in both of the hometowns of my parents the screen looks faded and rainy and the sound is bad). Cadena Tres is only available for all in Mexico City and nearby, you have to get it with the right cable provider in the rest of the country.
There have been novelas from Azteca with numbers above 20 points but those are big booms that make people who get the rainy images and bad sound watch the novela in spite of that. Silvia Navarro's Cuando Seas Mía was one of those, I think it even got to 23 points at 8 pm in Azteca, one of their two biggest hits ever (the other was Mirada de Mujer from 1997, which hit the 25 points at 9 pm).
Cadena Tres usually puts all their shows in youtube the next day so there's a high number of people who watch their novelas online. I do that, since I don't have the channel in Veracruz.
I don't know the average ratings of Amor Bravío but they must have been at 17-18 points, which is fine for a 7pm telenovela from Televisa.
Jarocha
To give you an idea of how much Televisa dominates the tv market:
A 9 pm telenovela is expected to get 25 points of audience to say it has good ratings in Televisa.
As for TvAzteca: 12 points.
Cadena Tres: 4 points.
You can see Televisa from almost any point in the country. TV Azteca has less coverage and sometimes the signal is really bad (in both of the hometowns of my parents the screen looks faded and rainy and the sound is bad). Cadena Tres is only available for all in Mexico City and nearby, you have to get it with the right cable provider in the rest of the country.
There have been novelas from Azteca with numbers above 20 points but those are big booms that make people who get the rainy images and bad sound watch the novela in spite of that. Silvia Navarro's Cuando Seas Mía was one of those, I think it even got to 23 points at 8 pm in Azteca, one of their two biggest hits ever (the other was Mirada de Mujer from 1997, which hit the 25 points at 9 pm).
Cadena Tres usually puts all their shows in youtube the next day so there's a high number of people who watch their novelas online. I do that, since I don't have the channel in Veracruz.
I don't know the average ratings of Amor Bravío but they must have been at 17-18 points, which is fine for a 7pm telenovela from Televisa.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 15, 2013 at 7:23:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 15, 2013 at 7:23:00 PM EDT
i love silvia navaro and dante....this movie is so breathtaking.......i want more of other movies
Permalink posted by : Monday, November 4, 2013 at 2:20:00 PM EST
: Monday, November 4, 2013 at 2:20:00 PM EST
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