Saturday, June 29, 2013
CI: #35 - 6/28/13 : The Truth Shall Not Always Set You Free
Labels: Indomable
Can't believe Tav was still hesitant to believe Santa. Where is Maria? I so want Lucia to be found out as to how she manipulated MC. There's no point in having to have Tav like her. She can still be a beyotch and a pain, so let him learn the truth. I was surprised the issues of "what did you do with the money I sent" didn't come up. Hopefully she doesn't get to the inspector first.
Sort of getting bored with the Karim/Mari dancing game. I'm starting to worry he has a few brain cells missing too...get it man, she can't be bought.
Carola is moving into that dangerous Lucia territory of wanting to harm people to get her way. So far, she only wants to scare Mari, but if pushed, I can see her stepping with both feet to the dark side.
Daisynjay
I think I just give up Oct as a lost cause..he knows Luciafer lied to him, fabricated a letter from MC and treated her like trash and he BELIEVES her??!!!
She even lie when she asks a question!!
No comment on the whole situation!
I really wish that Maricruz would be somewhat less confrontational in both her investigative as well as social pursuits. I see her toying with the Emir as immature as well as potentially dangerous. She's opening up too many fronts in the war she has declared against society. I think that she has way overestimated he ability to multi-task.
I can't imagine why Octavio hasn't gone ballistic over the false information that he's been fed. The fire, Ramiro's death, the stolen necklace, Maricruz in jail, the phony letter, Maricruz, Solita, and Monito... gone... What's it gonna take?
I loved Santa taking a stand with Lucia, "Sure, go ahead and bring in the inspector to investigate my accusations..."
Carlos
LatinaInMD/irisz79: I also have given up on Oblivio. I just will pray and hope he smartens up before the end. He is so boring....all he talks and thinks about is MC. I couldnt agree more with all the comments saying that he needs a hobby...sports, cars, nightlife...something!!
Carlos: Santa was brave last night. She let Luciafer have it and she didn't care. Too bad Oblivio took her words lightly. I will no longer waste brain cells trying to guess why he still believes those two liars (Miguel and moreso Lucia).
I think MariAle can handle herself with Emir but I am more worried about Carola. I didnt think she would confront her so soon. MC better watch her back.
Daisynjay, you asked where Maria is. She went back to her home town to live. She stopped in the DF on her way to the pueblo to give MC the box of letters and papers from Ramiro.
MariAle is super Mari, but she may be taking on too many opponents, especially for a pregnant woman who should be propping her feet up sometimes.
Carlos, I will agree that in some of her dealings, I wish Mari was a little less in-your-face. I get it why she is that way with any man that comes her way, but when she barged into Carola's I was thinking " Rules of warfare: never tell your enemy what your thinking of doing." She needs to be a little more cunning.
Daisynjay
I'm always annoyed by the "I have suspicions and even some proof against someone so I'll take it to them and throw my accusations in their face" gambit on TNs. What's the point? Unless you're trying to blackmail them somehow (and it's always our heroes who do this, so they're not into extortion), there's no earthly reason to do it. Collect your evidence and take it to someone who gives a damn, such as the proper authorities or someone who can withdraw their trust or otherwise act (such as Don Ale).
emerldrose--I don't know for sure how many episodes, but the orginial (MariMar) had 150-ish episodes so I am expecting this one to have at least that many. Coupled with the fact that this is a ratings hit in Mexico there might be more.
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Alegria
CeCe-
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! You took away one of his brain cells!! Hysterical!
...well at least your brain cells are firing unlike our other galan
Great line. I only saw the Marimar DVD, but was the galan as dumb/gullible?
Which leads me to Lucia... oh boy that woman can lie. How does Miguilty live with himself?
In marimar galan was awfull. As for me, much more worse then Tav.
Alegria
I really really LOVE this show and I hope that the extra episodes don't ruin it. So many of the TNs I've seen lately did not seem better when they extended them.
I have enjoyed your enthusiasm for this show. I am utterly smitten with Ana Brenda Contreras. She is doing a great job.
This was a fabulous recap. It's obvious that all of YOUR brain cells were firing, even if Tav's two were not. I had real hope for him at the beginning of the episode, but then when he expressed his doubts about Santa's words, I just lost it. Dude! Look at Santa (her name even tells you she's a saint)! And then look at lying liar Luciafer! Which one do you believe?! Good grief! (rant over)
Mari is very audacious, but we knew this wouldn't change just because she became "refined." This is the woman who shot her husband to get him to stay in town, after all. Someone does need to caution her to be more careful and cunning. Maybe Teo.
I want to see more of Tony. He is not comfortable with Carola's plan, but he still went ahead and got a hoodlum (with a fake gun) to scare Mari. He's a gray character. Mari may be able to bring him over on her side later.
Emeraldrose and Sara- I loved Daniel as the cocksure Willy in Amorcito Corazon. This role is very different.
I watched parts of Marimar when it was on last year—the galan was worse. Octavio is more sensitive and caring than the previous version of the galan.
I think I've said before that I had seen DA in Teresa and thought he was wooden. Then he got all kinds of charming in Amorcito Corazon. Now he's back to serious, but I like him better in this than in Teresa.
I don't remember much of Marimar (I only saw the DVD), so I can't really compare the two galans....but I love that despite his cerebral deficiencies Tav does seem to have some compassion.
OH! I learned a couple of phrases in Costa Rica that describe Tav:
No tiene cerebro ni pa' un derrame. (He's so dumb he doesn't have the brains for a stroke)
Tiene más cerebro una cabeza de ajo. (A head of garlic has more brains.)
I had a great time. We studied at three different campuses so we were just outside San Jose for a week (in San Joaquin de Flores in Heredia), near a beach in Playa Flamingo Guanacaste for a week and spent the last two weeks in Santa Elena (in Puntarenas near the cloud forest of Monteverde.)
It's a beautiful country and I'm already trying to convince hubs to let me go back in December! I am so in love with CR.
When this first started I had trouble seeing Elizabeth Alvarez as evil and someone commented that they has trouble with her as the good two-shoes she was in AC. I now completely understand and I've done a 180 because EA does villainess chillingly well.
So the past couple of episodes have me thinking that Teo is behind the robberies... trying to convince Aracely that the thief was good at heart and never stole from good people, and then balking at getting the police involved because of the "scandal" to the casino. I have a feeling he set up the whole "rescuing" MC from the robber scenario to throw people off his scent, and therefore he didn't want the police involved, in case the robber he "hired" spilled the truth. The there's how the camera always goes to his face for a reaction when people are talking about the zorillo... I don't think he's a bad guy; I think he truly believes he's justified in taking from "bad people." That's my theory for now anyway...
Thumbs down Oblivio, 1st time I have seen this actor & I must say he is pretty bad. His big emotional scene in Ramiro's ruins was blah. The mono is a better actor. I know, a lot of it is Mrs. Mejia's bargain basement writers. But many actors overcome the bad writing.
BTW: If anybody's interested, I've made some flashcards with words (mostly) from this telenovela:
http://www.spanishdict.com/flashcards
Some words just take forever to get into my brain, and I'm hoping this tool will help.
I agree he is Suspect Número Uno for the Zorillo crimes. What remains to be seen is if he will "pay" for the crimes. Robbery is robbery, but for know I am fine with it because I dislike his victims. Raiza and Carola kind of deserve it (disclaimer: I missed a month so I don't know of his other victims.)
Tav
I will admit that while his skills in dramatic roles has improved since Teresa Daniel Arenas is much better in lighter roles like Willy. I see chemistry between him and AB...something I never saw between AB and Aaron Diaz in Teresa.
MariCrAle
I am quickly becoming a fan of AB. She was fabulous in LQNPA and now she's doing a great job with this role.
Eduarecely
Again, I've missed a month...but I'm not feeling it. From Aleta's comments I gather they threw these two together quickly with no real "courtship". I hate it when writers do that. Convince me first. Don't just throw it in my lap and say "These two love each other. Trust us on this one."
I do not have discerning tastes (as I have often said), so I still love this show and barely notice it's shortcomings. lol.
After watching and asking my instructor and a Latino friend what 'corneya"meant, finally figured it out...."Con Ella". I listen closely and I still hear an "r" in there somewhere.
I'm surprised that Octavio wasn't more outraged than he seemed to be over that scrawled note that Lucia composed and the Maricruz lookalike transcribed. After that, how can he possible trust a thing that she says.
So glad that Solita's education is coming along. Isn't it about time that she reveal what happened to her at the hands of Eusebio? I am so looking forward to that little taste of justice.
I can't figure out what Maricruz's ultimate goal with the Emir might be. I'd think that once he discovers that she is pregnant that he'll either be very angry or just shrug his shoulders and move on.
Carlos
As if I didn't need more reason to be frustrated by Tav's torpeza mental.
In the words of Bugs Bunny: "what a maroon. "
I also echo everyone else in saying how much I have been liking AB recently. I didnt really care for her much in Sortilegio but I really loved LQNPA and she's not doing bad here either.
I dont know what MC/MA goal with Emir yet either...maybe she will teach him humility and how money and power cannot buy you everything. While I believe that AB/DA have chemistry...Emir is a much more interesting and SMART character for the moment so I'm always interested in their conversations.
What's Octavio thinking? "Oh, yes, I realize now that Lucia was lying when she was talking about how well Maricruz was doing, but I believe that now she's telling the truth about how she suddenly turned nice to Maricruz once I left town and about Maricruz's supposed crimes."
Don Ale wrote her letters begging for her return. She refused to answer them or to return to him. She changed MA's name to MC and took away Ale's surname from Mari. It seems Don Ale gave up on Lupita returning to him at some point, and shifted the focus to just finding his daughter. There are a lot of unanswered questions, that will never be answered because they are due to poor writing:
- Why did it take so long for Don Ale to get a detective to the Tamaulipas region to ask questions about MA/MC, when he has always known that's the region Lupita came from (he sent letters there!)?
- Why the heck did it take so long, when it appears it has always been his wish to be reunited with his wife and child?
- Why did he give up on getting back together with Lupita, and why has he not directed his detective to find her too? I have not seen any conversation when he speaks of knowing that Lupita died.
Then, of course we could ask questions about him and Tobi not immediately realizing Mari was his daughter, since she looks EXACTLY like Lupita, but we would be here all day asking logical questions. So let's stop there. :)
I second that! I love their conversations.
I know that it's late and just about everything has been said but
I loved this novela 110% from day one, I have to add a few words.
It was MC's destiny. Yeah right, propelled on by wild eyed lucifer.
I liked---in your dreams buddy...in
fact, not even there.
She thinks that Karim doesn't care
about her heart but her body---Right on Maricruz 100%
MariAle accuses Corola of cooking the books---what isn't clear to me,
if this is true--why? Is Corola skimming or is she just trying to make things look a little better for DonAle?
Cara C.---A head of garlic has more brain cells. LOL
daisynjay---Rules of warfare: never
tell your enemy what you are thinking. Good point.
Carlos---What will Karim do when he finds out that Maricruz is pregant? Will he leave her? My guess is not a chance. For him, it's all about conquest. He has power and massave amounts of money.
My guess is also that he has NEVER LOST and for him to loose this time/conquest, it would be devastating to his ego. Pregnant or not, he isn't going to loose. well, we know he will, but he doesn't.
Vivi---Dude! Look at Santa [her name even tells you she's a saint.]
And while I'm on the subject of Santa, It looked like she put up a pretty good fight against wild eyes lucifer last night but still she didn't convince one brain cell Oblivio. If I had been Santa, I would have called Lucia a disciple
of satan with a black soul. That may have woke up that one brain cell of Tav's.
Oh and guess what? Just yesterday,
I came across a March 2013 issue of Popular Science magazine. the cover headline article is
"Rewiring the Brain" Should I send it on to Octavio? Could it help?
the gringo
About the books-- Carola is giving Don Ale reports that show that the casino is earning less than it's really earning, but Maricruz knows from her own observations that it's earning more. She knows there must be a correct listing of profits somewhere, and she wants to see it. Carola is apparently skimming money in order to grow her own fortune so that she can buy the casino from Ale.
Again, I love this site and all who participate.
I actually cheered out loud when I saw Solita getting sign language lessons! Now we'll get to "hear" more of her character, and what she knows could really complicate (or clear up) some things!
I'm still enjoying this TN mucho. Tav is not smart, but I think he's going to start being more proactive now and more MC worthy --I hope. I do think Tav and MC/MA make a good couple.
I'm not sure how anyone can like watching the Eduardo character with Aracely. I liked the actor enough in AB, but he's doing a good job in making me dislike him in this show. The only thing I'll say for him is that he seems to be a relatively good friend to Tav.
I was also very happy to see Solita getting lessons in sign language as well. Yea!
Barbara
The music played when "Alteza" appears makes me laugh every time.
I don't think Oblivio actually disbelieved Santa, he just wasn't wrapping his brain around the whole scenario. That's not suprising.....Tav doesn't know he's in a telenovela. I myself would have trouble believing someone would do this to another person, especially my brother and his wife. Just give Tav a little time to process this info. I'm an optimist. I think even if he doesn't get lots smarter, he's gonna start showing us more and more what a good guy he is.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one! I thoroughly enjoy all the music, really.
I love the wardrobe too.
I guess I'm blind/inexperienced because this production doesn't look too "budget" to me: great sets (despite duplicates), great clothes, great music.
Oh, I do admit that the jewelry that the Emir sent over was very unimpressive.
I wonder if he will conquer her or threaten her. At some point I expect Tav and Emir's paths to cross. (Conjecture, not spoiler.)
I'm also wondering if this remake will deviate wildly from the original (of which I know very little.)
Daisynjay, I think that I heard miguel say to octavio that the money he sent was put into a bank account.
UtahDesert, haha ITA "Self-loathing becomes Octavio. He looked very attractive in the first scene of this episode. And then he blew it all by being more or less stupid for the rest of it."
He's pretty cute, and I'm with all of ya'll about how charming his character was on AC. He was always so funny to watch.
jlk
As for Eduardo and Araceli, well, I find Araceli unattractive and annoying. She has no particular redeeming features. (I try not to make too many comparisons with Amor Bravio, but Araceli compares so badly to the AB ingenue, Luzma.)
would have trouble believing someone would do this to another person, especially my brother and his wife." While everyone has been saying how dumb Octovio is, 2 brain cells,
1 brain cell, 1/2 of a brain cell. I have had the same thoughts as you---It's his family.
My family wouldn't do that. Maybe
this isn't the whole reason that Tav hasn't seen the light but it certainly is a big part of it.
I'm also with you about MC's 3 dresses. Those 3 dresses didn't bother me even a little. I have said it before that Ana Brenda/MC
would look beautiful in anything. For me, those 3 dresses portrayed the simple country life that she was living beautifully.
the gringo
Oh! I like that idea!! But only if he learns to master his arrogance.
I find Araceli unattractive and annoying.
She's cute enough. I don't find her annoying. In fact, I have now opinion at all. I'm neutral....which for a TN is not a good thing. Make me love the character or hate the character; make me intrigued by the character, but don't make me apathetic to a character.
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SaraC. - Nice to see you're back and tracking with us!
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CorgiMom: I have to agree that El Torpe de Octavio is suffering from emotional shell shock, which admittedly puts those two brains cells of his at risk of being put on life support.
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Slap Forehead! Why didn't I think of sign language before Don Ale did?
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El Comandante better have his affairs in order and his will signed, sealed and ready to deliver now. Santa did him no favors going off on Luciafer like she did.
Also, re: your previous comment about becoming an Ana Brenda fan, I'm such a huge fan that I have watched four of AB's novelas in the past 1 1/2 years. The first novela I saw Ana Brenda in was TERESA and, seriously, after about a week I started asking myself why SHE wasn't the lead, since she is a WAY better actress than Angelique Boyer. I found out later that AB auditioned for the lead in Teresa, but Teresa's producer cast A. Boyer because he had a thing for her, and in fact the two of them became lovers while Teresa was still in production (and remain together after 3 years). Fortunately, that same producer cast AB in the lead in LQNPA. I thought AB was fabulous in LQNPA, and deserved more credit for its success than she got, since Jorge Salinas seemed to get the bulk of the credit (he definitely deserved credit, but not all of it). After LQNPA, I saw AB as the villain Maura in Sortilegio - not a huge role but, again, in my view AB is a WAY better actress than Jackie Bracamontes. AB also auditioned for that lead, but the producer Carla Estrada wanted to cast in the lead an actress that was well-known like J. Bracamontes, since her leading man was going to be then-newcomer William Levy. AB was not yet known well enough, plus she was just coming off from her lead in Juro Que Te Amo, which was NOT a hit. In fact, JQTA was such a ratings failure that to this day many people don't realize that JQTA was AB's first lead, not LQNPA. I've seen bits and pieces of JQTA and even I don't have the stomach to watch the whole thing. The problem with it is not AB, it's her leading man on it - none other than Jose Ron, who was even worse on JQTA than he was on LQNPA, and I could barely stand him as Gustavo on LQNPA. He is beyond awful on JQTA.
Barbara-CorgiMom, I'm glad I'd finished my coffee. I couldn't let this one pass without repeating it:
Tav doesn't know he's in a telenovela. I'm still laughing and pondering the possibilities if he ever does realize it. It's great you are an optimist!
I haven't watched JQTA but a friend who watched told me the best thing about it was the opening credits.
But it was a MaPat novella and she tends to mess up even those TNs that started out good, like she did with the LMDV and end up producing a second or third rate series at the end.
AB was faboulus in LQNPA and very good at Teresa and a credible antagonist in Sorteleigo. Nevertheless I must say Boyer - and I'm not a great fan - was a very good Teresa much better than the goody two-shoes Elisa in Abismo where the two main couples were the worst of the cast and the bad guys carried it on their backs - and the padre of course.
Re: Angelique Boyer, I agree she was good as Teresa. I didn't say she was bad, just that AB is a better actress than her, IMHO. Some may disagree, and that's fine. But, like you, I couldn't stand A. Boyer's role in ADP. Believe me, I tried ADP but I gave up on that one pretty early on.
Funny you should mention JQTA. I tried to watch the DVD...and couldn't get past the first 10-ish minutes. I am not a fan of Jose Ron AT ALL. He was the biggest reason I had to stop watching LQNPA for a bit.
I hope AB gets cast in all the TNs from now until eternity! I'm starting to become a real fan girl.
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