Caray, Caray!

Good evening all,

I know that every episode can't be compelling and exciting but tonight was a dude. Maybe this is the calm before the storm.
 

Thanks, Tablet Jefa, for an excellent recap!

I loved the interchange between Chatita and Alma. Looks like her mom and dad both messed her up. At least we know for sure where her insecurities come from. It is good to know that she has support from Chatita and not just from Jesus.

Alma needs to start hanging with Xochi who did tell her mother that she had hands and could make her own breakfast. Alma and Xochi are more similar than different with their options for their future being controlled by parents who only think of themselves.

It was an okay episode.

Jarifa


 

Well... the gossip of Rogelio being in prison got to Avon like virginia ham to the hungry piranhas!! I am telling you! While Pato was talking to Heysus all three of them were there just standing for the whole while!! God I wish I'd work at Avon, these people get paid for doing nothing!!


 

TJ:

Thanks so much for this fab recap, this epi may have been a dud, but this recap is excellent!

I agree with Jarifa about Alma and Xochi, they are the same really, but at least now Xochi is standing up for herself. Alma needs to do the same. Thank goodness for Chatita. They ought to get rid of Marta and replace her with Chatita, I swear Chatita gives way better advice.

I hope Ferny doesn't fall for Cantu's trying to guilt him into taking the blame for Rogue. But then again, Delia is a bit ahead of them and knows who the real culprit is. Cantu's plan shouldn't be working anyways.

TJ:

You are spot on about Val's old soul, she is the cutest thing and understands the adults around her way more than they understand themselves. I hope she grows up a strong, sensible young lady, despite what is going on in her life.

I'd like to see Vero move in with Chucho, too funny. Never happen, Val yes, Vero, I don't think so.
 

I'm right there with you on wanting to selectively FF last night TJ. Thanks for the recap of a filler, frustrating episode...though there were a few cute moments.

Can Val get any sweeter? The scene with Papa Jesus was wonderful, and she's right, all this "adult" stuff affects her. She just melted my heart, and made me want to smack Vero all the more. And it seems her delusional gene is running rampant still.

Cantu needs to be hit by a bus. Period. Flattened and scraped off the pavement. Then again, maybe road kill is too good for him. My poor Ferny....please don't take the fall!!

So do we have a layered lie from Xochi's mom? The guy in the photo isn't her dad, but neither was she born from a donated sperm it seems? Ay yi yi--so now do we open the door to the daddy-o being someone we know? Maybe Sebastian ( could he be any bigger of a scum bag -- he could join Cantu on the road kill line) Then again, with over 100 episodes to go (yish) maybe we will have some new characters appear?

Daisy
 

Tablet Jefa, this might have been a dud of an episode, but you are such a keen observer it seems you manage to extract some very key plot points and insightful observations throughout.

My favorites...The funny one: "Jessica enters Ferny’s apartment for any gossip or sex that she can acquire." Yes TJ, you really nailed that one.

The bittersweet one: "The next day- Jesus tells Val that she has to study so that she can be a Licenciada like Alma." Kinda sad that he doesn't say so Val can be like her own mom, who is a waste of space as far as I can tell.

I agree that is one of those pivotal episodes that serves as set-up for future events.

Thanks TJ, I'm so glad you did NOT FF through this episode because it is superb.
 

I meant your recap is superb, not the episode. Duh.
 

Thanks Tablet Jefa..like everyone else (well, the women anyway) I melted when Valentina gently beckoned with her finger to Dad..."Come closer papa"..and quietly shared with him how her parents' heartaches were her heartaches also.

Well played by our adorable little thespian.

On the Xochi story, I hope she isn't going to be the product of rape or something monstrous like that. She has enough sorrow to deal with as it is.

Even though it's just a story, I wanted to smack Marisela hard when she peremptorily dumped Ricardo and his creative fine-dining-in-bodegalandia to run after Elias once again.

All the adults in this one are annoying me right now! I only like Valentina and Sanson. Is that wrong?

And of course I liked your recap, TJ, thank you for not giving up on the "dud".
 

How did such a helpless person as Xochi's mom pay for a sperm donor? It would be more believable that some guy paid her to keep it quiet. Then she told herself he was a sperm donor.

I've got a lot more tolerance for Xochi after getting to know her mom. Finding her dad could be a good subplot.
 

Thanks, TJ! Might not have been the most exciting epi, but you have spun straw into gold como siempre.

Lots of setup, though...the mystery of Xochi's origens, Alma opening up to Chatita, Vero's increasing delusion spiral, Ricardo finally making a little progress with Mari.

I wanted to smack Marisela, too, when she left that dinner to go chat with Elias about nonsense for five minutes. She couldn't have seen him the next day, or talked to him by phone whenever she got home? Why is she at his beck and call when she's mad at him?
 

Thanks, TJ! Yes, I hope the pace picks up.

I don't understand what the problem is. Shouldn't we find this a lot more exciting? Rogue is in jail, Ricardo is homeless, a photographer has oodles of pictures waiting to break Alma's heart, the intrepid Xochi has a mystery to solve, and there's a crazy therapist counseling troubled people.

Yet somehow I'm still not really feeling it. And I know it isn't just me. Maybe some of us are just burning out on this kind of stuff?
 

I want Julio (aka Hipus Movilus) to dance more. That's what this show needs.
 

Is this an abnormally long time for the show to go on before the two leads even admit to each other their romantic interest?
 

Yup, I agree. More Julio dancing. I'd like to see Xochi come out of her shell with him. She irritated the heck out of me at first, but now she's a much more interesting character.
 

Daisy, I loved the road kill thought for Cantu.
Pablo- I would love to work at Avon too and get paid to waste time.
Julie- I can't imagine how it's going to pick up but I hope that it does since it lasted in Mexico for so long.
Thank you all because the comments were funnier than the episode.
 

Less gossip, less of the ''major characters'' who turned out to be really annoying, and more of the ones in the back, whose stories are (and surely will be) way more entertaining! In few words, let's turn the TN upside down!

Can you imagine if little by little we would get to see less and less of Chatita, Jesús, Alma and such pointless characters until they disappear completely and more of Ivonne, Melchor and Gaspar, Remigio, Domitila, Minerva, to the point where the TN ends with a wedding but a very unexpected one!!
That would be great!
 

Now that you mention it - yeah, it's a little weird that they've made out a bunch of times and even went to premarital counseling together, but haven't discussed their feelings.

I think that's supposed to be part of the "comedy," that only Chucho and Alma are oblivious to each other's love. Everyone else can see it. But that "joke" is wearing thing.

I do like Xochi's story, actually. The relationship with Julio and the mystery of her father. But that's not where most of the screen time is going.

Oh well. At least Chucho and Eli are still good to look at!
 

Maybe I belong to Marta's Club (Am I weird?), but for me, comedy is something that makes me laugh (Old Christine, Familia P-Luche, and similars) and this TN doesn't make me feel anything! I am concerned, last night I thought I felt a little, very little sadness when Marisela dumped Ricardo to follow Elías. And regarding Patricia, I like her character and the way she speaks but I hate the way she behaves and everything she does...
 

Thanks for your great work here TJ in spite of the episode. I enjoy how you want to FF through things but am happy you didn't. Thanks for your patience and hopefully things will get better.
 

I agree Julie. It's not like I fight tuning in, but honestly, the plot when from really inane stupid hijinks to borderline drama.

So far, I love my little Val so much, it's amazing that a little girl can make a whole TN so enjoyable. Any scene with any grown up she's in gets my attention. But some of the others--too many characters interacting but it's not going anywhere.
We need either a good fast forward, or some people just need to get their act together because we keep getting the same conversation and arguments over and over with rare exceptions.
MOVE ONE!!
 

In particular, Vero and Elias need to get out of their stagnation, and Elias needs to grok that Jesus is not, in fact, interested in breaking up his family or hooking up with Vero again.

This show still makes me laugh. For example, when Xochi's mean mama demanded her breakfast and Xochi threw the crumpled up picture at her instead.

I also find it amusing how completely happy and at home Ricardo seems, living in the warehouse.
 

1. Fernando is so cute and sweet.
2. I loved the "A kiss is a secret that confuses the mouth with the ears" line that Ricardo used!