Caray, Caray!

Hey Y'all the recap is up. Please enjoy!
 

Another winner Madeleine! Love how you split the happenings.

My guess with Xochi now--I'm thinking not a makeover, but maybe an he's taking her to some event, contest, club where she can sing? He knows how good she is, and being on that bus made me think that could be what it is. Would love to see her just bust loose on a stage somewhere. now THAT would be a confidence builder and maybe leads to a makeover of a different kind for her.

The convo that Alma and Chucho had with their counterparts was much more fun then the meetings yesterday. I agree, Chucho and Pancho really hit it off and besides Chatita, think he found someone he could just lay it out there with. Interesting it's the head of the company there, but juarever.

As for Alma...well by the looks of the previews, we may get some smoochies. So help me it's another of those stupid dream sequences, I may have to go throttle the writers. But then again, she is a married woman which creates an interesting dilemma here. How far will they let Chucho and Alma go while she is still hitched to Rog?

That phone call by Vero all wanting to be congratulated for her divorce...what a tween! Woman has the majority of a 12 year old...no take that back, her daughter is 6 and SHE has more maturity. I cringe now when she shows up on screen.

Another rainy day...starting has marks on my wall to see how far this goes. Really getting sick of it! Hope you all have sunshine where you are!!

Daisynjay
 

Sorry for the word goofs--my kindle likes to change my words on me after the fact. That would be Maturity nor majority and HASH marks....ok, I need another cup of coffee this morning.
 

Fab recap, Mads, absolutely top-drawer. Can't wait to watch.
 

Your recap was such a great accompaniment to my coffee this morning! Thank you, Madelaine, for phrases like "the bestest of the best"!

Since I knew nothing about UFCS, I really have appreciated the recappers and commenters explaining who Pancho and Rebe and Cande were and the bear hug thing. Is this common in telenovela land to have telenovela worlds overlap?

There couldn't have been more lines in the theme song integrated into the dialogue in this episode. The operative word of the night seemed to be "intachable" "irreproachable" applied to both Alma and Rogelio.

I loved Sebastian telling Rogelio that he had to talk Alma into marrying him at the last minute. Also from Rogelio's accusations we have learned what was suspected: Sebastian was quite the philanderer himself. Maybe he sees Rogelio as a a younger version of himself.

Poor Sansón still having to listen to the dejected Rogelio telling Sansón that he couldn't even count on him. Rogelio and Paty clearly deserve each other. I wonder if they will end up together.

Those promos are really playing with us. Sooner or later Alma and Jesús are going to have to tell each other the truth. How long will they make us wait?

Jarifa
 

Since the recaps are way better than the episodes, I watched last night without really watching (I have to conserve my sanity for wednesdays).
I am losing interest. Looks like nothing major happened, blah!

Please wake me up when Alma loses her ''virginity'' in Toluca, with Jesús or with anybody else!!
 

Madeline....wonderful, wonderful recap. I love it that the "Suerte" gang has showed up...and I bet Avon loves it even more. Still can't get over the phenomenal stretch on brand promotion but, oh well. I'm so happy to see another glimpse of Pancho, Rebe and Candy from an all-time fave show. Have never seen this sort of thing before on Univision.

Also, in her prison visit, did Fer tell Patymelt that her strategy for a Rojelio-Alma break up wouldn't quite work out to Patymelt's interests after all since it would mean Rojelio was forever behind bars?

I'm with everyone concerned the promos could be just projecting another dream sequence. Not getting my hopes up. Also, since Alma and Fer were married "in the church" (priesr officiating) in Mexico, it may be that the only way their marriage can be dissolved is for one of them to die? I don't think they have "annulment" in Mexico yet. Unless Fer's imprisonment would amount to a special consideration of some sort. Most of the "divorces" I've seen in telenovelas involved civil ceremonies only, never the church marriages. (Except when one of the two died.) Anyway, my hope for next week is that our two love birds advance the story line for real, at long last.





 

Oops...just realize I got Fer and Rojelio mixed up in previous posting. Please forgive. Fewer and fewer brain cells at work and the names are not my forte anyway.

Anyway...I meant Alma and Rojelio, etc. etc.


 

Oh, I think they can get an annulment pretty easily -- the marriage was not consummated, and there were various kinds of frow-day, including the prenup classes with the wrong (that is, the right) guy. I'm not concerned. ;}
 

Thanks Blue Lass...I feel better.
 

Mads- Yet another wonderful weekend recap from you.

Fingers crossed that Pancho's and Rebe's heart-to-heart chats with Chucho and Alma had the proper effect. I think the preview monkeys may actually be telling the truth this time, since they showed Alma crying after kissing Jesus. That would totally fit in with reality as we know Alma is not going to take cheating on her husband Rogue lightly.

Isn't it funny that it was implied that Alma and Rogue had sex once a week, planned and like clockwork, until Jesus came into their lives. And then for some reason, it never happened again. It's been MONTHS! The zipper incident came long after their nookie stopped. Shouldn't one of them be wondering why this is the case by now?
 

Is an annulment based on non-consummation still valid in the Catholic Church if the couple had sex before they said their vows (even if they don’t after they say their vows)?
 

Fabulous recap, Madelaine. I loved the flow.
The recap was better than the episode.
As far as Rogue and Patymelt go- they are definitely - tal para cual.
I am wondering where is Xochy going?? I with you Daisynjay- maybe a karoake bar or some type of singing contest format.
 

I've thought for some time now that Julio's been getting Xochi ready for some kind of Mexican Idol show, where she will gain instant fame and recognition and become a big star. In any case, can't wait to see that those two have been up to. It was really sweet when he held her hand as the headed out of the office.
 

I thought it odd that the president of Avon and his wife were basically pushing Alma and Jesus to have an affair.

The whole awards thing was weird. It takes time to plan those things. You just don't enter someone's name to win an award and then go to the ceremony the next day. Plus, he got the gold award and he's only been working there for how many months?

I think a Mexican Idol type audition might be too much for our Xochi. I'm hoping she starts out slow with a karaoke performance.

Nanette
 

Watched 3x. First without subtitles, then English subtitles, then con subtítulos en español. In response to Chucho telling Pancho that he wants to be successful like he is, Pancho responded something like, "Yo voy las ranas" I would love to understand that better than "I'll frogs"??Maybe I just didn't catch what Pancho said?
 

Iguanas ranas (me too)
 

Thanks Pablo! Pancho loves his rhymes!

 

Just got caught up this morning -- and I'm with the rest of y'all, ready for some BESARSE CON SINCERIDAD. Dare we hope...?
 

Madelaine, thank you for the terrific recap. I am back home for a few months and I actually got to see this episode. Yay! I forgot how much I like the music. And a belated thank you to the rest of you recappers for the past week's recaps which I just caught up on.

ITA that the awards ceremony was just plain weird and completely nonsensical. Oh well, I understand that it was designed to promote the crossover characters (which I actually enjoy very much) and give Candy some air time to shake it up a bit. I thought the scenes with Candy and Jesus were quite amusing; she is so, ahem, overwhelming.

I'm loving Ricardo and Xochi, can't wait to see what they are up to.

Pablo, thanks for the "rana" explanation.
 

Thanks!

I said it meant ''me too'' but could translate more like ''same here'', since iguanas comes from ''igual-same'', so, ''lizards frogs'' doesn't mean anything in english, but is liek saying, same here, me too, and similars...
 

Yep, that makes sense. That reminds me how much I used to enjoy Pancho's crazy word-play when I watched UFCS. Participating in the Caray Caray discussion was VERY helpful. (As it always is!)
 

Hey, y'all thanks for all the lovely comments.

This epi was mostly filler, but funny nonetheless. I think Monday's epi is going to move things along, especially if the avances are true.

I too agree that Xochi may be doing some singing, cause I noticed when she walked away with the handholding Julio, she was humming. Maybe she will enter a singing contest, but not Mexican Idol, I too agree she isn't ready for that. She needs a huge boost for her self esteem and this may be the way to achieve that.

I will make an admission about Pancho. Half the time I can't understand what the heck he is saying and I recapped the second half of UFCS, lol. I am glad Pablo gave a translation of that phrase cause I never would have figured out what he said! Candy and Rebe and everyone else I can undertand.

I liked Rebe's look. She has become less stiff and Candy is exactly the same as she was in UFCS. She is still the bon bon, lol. I wish they had brought Enzzo and Chela back too. We really miss Enzzo don't we? ; )
 

For Pancho, who I guess needs to show he is ''pueblo'', or low class but with a big heart, they have to add all those things, that we all know what they mean, but never use.
Not everybody in México will get caught dead saying: iguanas ranas!

But we get the draft. Pancho is poor, hard working, humble, sincere, and so on... right?
 

Right. I'm sure they are showing that as a similarity between Pancho and Jesus. Not to mention Pancho has an excellent bulls**t meter so he would NOT be simpatico with Roge.
 

Thanks, Madelaine. This Toluca crossover has been fun, but I'm ready to get back to the real story - such as it is.

I've been thinking Xochi would be doing karaoke, but maybe it's something bigger. I would like for her mother to see her on TV and FLIP OUT.

Pablo, don't reserve your sanity for Wednesday night. Recap night is the worst possible time to be sane!
 

Muchas gracias, Madelaine! I enjoyed your recap much more than the episode.

I thought the whole awards ceremony thing was kind of weird. Do people in the television industry realize that most jobs don't involve as many awards as their own industry gives out? And how does a guy who isn't even a secretary win the big secretary award? Chucho is a personal assistant. Not to mention, he's only worked at Avon for a few months, with a little break, and he is frequently vanishing and showing up late and leaving early and all sorts of other non-award-worthy behavior. And yet, he is the hero, so all the other hard-working secretaries must love him and not at all feel that this is unfair.

I think maybe this is just tapping into a serious peeve of mine: Men tend to get better pay and higher esteem in the workplace in general, but even when they work in jobs more traditionally done by women, they seem to get treated like they're something special even if they don't do the job better. It grates on my nerves.

But enough of my crabbiness. I hope we do have some actual plot progress tonight, but I don't want Alma to get en flagrante and have to feel guilty about it. She should dump Rogue and THEN go for Jesus.

I think Vero and Sebastian should run off together and leave everyone else out of their misery. Could any two people possibly be more selfish and demanding?
 

Yay for recappers!!! Thanks Mads. I didn't realize until I read your recap that Sebastian had told Rog that he had to force Alma to marry him. That's big!
 

I was confused by Rog's threat to tell Alma that Sebastian is responsible for her mother's death. I thought Sebastian already told someone (Susana?) that Alma blames him for that. Does this mean that he did something even worse than break his wife's heart?
 

I was wondering about that, too. Rogue seems to have some hold over Sebas beyond the money help and whatever he did to help Sebas get a new heart. Alma already knows about her father's cheating and financial losses and all that, and she already holds him indirectly responsible for her mother's death. What else is there? Did Sebas actually directly or at least more culpably kill his wife? What if she isn't really dead? So many possibilities!
 

Julie:

I'm getting the feeling that there is more to Sebas than meets the eye. Also Rogue has some more secrets too I think, regarding all that money and what Yuri has to do with it.