Thursday, July 18, 2013

PEAM #93-7/17/13: Not Even Uri Could Have Spoiled Those Two Nights Of Passion!

Recap By Pablo

Somewhere around 3:15 pm (mid afternoon coffee time), at Avon, Xóchitl was talking to Jéssica.
-Now, if you allow me to tell you... started Xóchitl while a very upset Jéssica interrupted her to start to imitate Quico while threatening to go to the night club and give Natasha a lesson in ''Only one reason why you don't steal anybody's love interests''. -I will go up on the stage and drag her down beating her to a pulp!- said the gorgeous brunette.
What Jéssica doesn't know is that Natasha has the whole Karate Kid movie collection (and too much time on her hands) and she knows how to defend herself, so, I would go very carefully near her...

Somewhere around 3:30 pm Elías went to pick up Valentina from school and saw Marta Ferrer, or Dr Loca, as we know her in the Caray community, so he immediately told the teacher not to let her get too close to the girl. The hamster in her brain doesn't spin the wheel and she is dangerous. 

Somewhere around 3:45 pm, Uri gets a priceless gift. His freedom! Thanks to some maneuvers and money from Rogelio (who is always crying because he is almost broke), he is now free and he is furious! Although he swears he will never look for Jesús and/or touch him with a rose petal, much less hurt him, I am sure he will try, at least not on the face, but right there where we can not see...

Can Cún shares the same time zone as Monterrey, and Jesús and Alma enjoy a breeze picnic on the beach while talking about Jesús' childhood and the way he was raised. Honesty and hard work were everyday things in his life. Thanks to that, today he is the man that he is. They decide to call Valentina just to use some minutes, it doesn't matter, they're just 75 cents nationwide, thanks to Unefón. So, not having anything else better to do, Jesús tells Valentina her fairy tale about the Queen and the Pauper, I mean, the Help, because, what is the best way to teach a little girl not to get into adult's business? Right, telling her about them! I was surprised he didn't tell her that last night they had slept together and that this morning they couldn't get up because they couldn't free themselves from each other's arms!! No! That would have been TMI!! Anyway, Jesús is happy with Alma, who even when she said she hated unfaithfulness, in her case it is worth it, because for the first time, she is making love with the man she loves!! True, we can see the straw in other people's eyes and not the 2x4 in our own eyes!!
Alma is so happy she could die right now and go straight to heaven!
Work is piling up at Avon, Rogelio is still her husband, she doesn't want to see her father anymore, but they can deal with that some other time, today is paradise on earth!

Elias is another one who was lacking in fluid assets and now seems like  they are actually flowing. Before taking Marisela and Pánfilo to their new apartment he is buying for them, Elías answers the phone and then lets Valentina know MORE than she should, she stays with them all the time, so when Pánfilo inquires about the real reason why Elías is giving them the apartment and suggests it could be due to the ''relationship'' between Elías and Marisela, Valentina's ears stick up and asks: is there a relationship between you two, Heartologic Dad? -I will tell you later, sweetheart, before you go to bed, so we can use it as a nighttime story.
Cool Dad, thanks! 
Since Mr Pánfilo is reluctant to accept the charity, Marisela steps in and agrees to stay. Finally Pánfilo come to his senses and accepts too, with one condition:
they will pay little, very little by little, until they own it.

Ray unwillingly eats salad with Chatita, who insists in eating health and organic. Of course kids don't like that, and don't care, because what they really want is payaso lollipops and junk food. Watching her chew the lettuce, Chatita remembers that fatal day when Ray's father killed her mother. Ray is worried because now her secret is out and begs Chatita to keep quiet. Specially around Valentina. I shouldn't worry too much, if Chatita spills the beans one of two things could happen, people would think she is making up stuff, or she might never remember anyway. The lesson here is: Be who you are, because in the end, truth floats so everybody can see it.

Nancy and Delia argue trying to find a way to protect Jesús from Uri. Delia feels frustrated and angry while Nancy keeps repeating, affirmative, affirmative, one thousand times affirmative! If they could protect everybody who needs protection, the police headquarters would be empty, with all the officers protecting someone, so, protecting Jesús is physically impossible.

By now it should be somewhere around 4 pm, and back to Xóchitl, who is now with Julio talking about Natasha and her virtuoso nights at the Club, we hear they say something about Jéssica, in the exact moment that Cárdenas was passing by and stops to ask:
What is the truth Jéssica must not know?
But before he gets the juicy gossip, Fernando interrupts them because he is looking for Cárdenas to ask him for something useful to do. Cárdenas is shocked! Fernando is asking him WHAT TO DO? Well... where do we start? 
-What I am going to tell you must not leave this office.
-Yes, of course!
-Yes what? yes, it will never leave this office or yes you will go and tell everybody?
-Yes, this can never leave this office...
-Juárever!

In Rogelio's castle, him and Cantú the lawyer talk about how useless Fernando is (the donkey speaking about ears), how much money was spent taking Uri out of jail and how much more he will need when he comes to see Rogelio... Rogelio, as regiomontano as he is, has a problem with spending money, his elbow hurts. So, even when the money is not spent but invested, he feels pain watching the money go!! He doesn't have a tree of money, he says, and he needs some for himself, and Patricia, when she comes back. She is expensive you know?

One lie must be covered by another one, and now Xóchitl and Julio must come up with something to tell Cárdenas when he asks them again, that is, if he remembers.

After work, there's more work. This time Marisela must help her dad to move from the cardboard and tin house they used to live in, to the new apartment. The lesson here is nonexistent, because even when Elías explains to Valentina how lucky some people are having more stuff than they need, what he should be saying is that this is not a matter of luck, but hard work and effort. Having everything costs money and that doesn't fall from the sky. Luck is out of the question, but anyway, parents can teach kids anything, as long as they tell them to make the right choices and go straight.

Every big journey starts with a small step and Cárdenas help Fernando telling him to get to know the names of all employees and call them by their names.

And that's all Cárdenas teaches Fernando in his first day to not overwhelm him with knowledge, and since they're there, Cárdenas takes the chance to ask Fernando what he feels for Jéssica. Fernando confesses his love for Natasha, the songstress, and Cárdenas feels relieved, Now, the way is free for him to make a move.

I thought it already after 5pm because Marisela was moving but maybe moving is another reason to leave early, like going to jail to visit someone, or going to the hospital to see somebody else, the case is that there is still some people ''working'' at Avon. While Ricardo asks Jéssica for advice in his relationship with Marisela, we can see Julio in the back moving things, flipping papers in the air, looking busy.
Jéssica ''helps'' Ricardo highlighting the differences between himself and Elías who, according to her, is handsome and has A LOTTA MONEY!!
Seems like there's no hope for Ricardo but the new Jéssica, who is now all heart will intervene and talk to Marisela about Ricardo... there's no worse fight than the one that doesn't happen.

Cut to thirty minutes of Jesús and Alma frolicking on the beach making sand castles, riding bicycles (BTW here we get to hear another version of the same song that we are tired of hearing everyday during the credits), close up to Jesús' eyes and then a kiss (and I am sure I saw his tongue coming in!!)

Night time in Monterrey
Guess what? Alejandra, the only prostitute... ahem, escort in Monterrey has a date with Uri Petrovsky but is greeted at the door by Malvino and ''el calavera'', who can not believe their eyes and almost replicate the mask faces when they see her. She is not all that, but for them, even Doña Susana could make a acceptable date, that's how desperate they are!

Night time in Can Cún
Jesús and Alma are welcomed by the French chef, who offers them the appetizers and then the main dish. He said something like Lobster and beef, together in the same plate, so I guess that is. I am ignorant of those dishes with a little this and that, some salsa squirt and a cilantro leaf they call gourmet. Sorry! I need pizza and double cheese hamburgers. Why pretend they are full when they are not? Oh, yes! They are in love, and people in love are never hungry! It is enough looking in each others eyes to forget that the world is spinning! Between meals, Jesús and Alma talk about the future, work, kids.. Of course, being this is a TN about HOW IMPORTANT FAMILY IS, Jesús says that he will fight for Valentina's custody, that God sent you to make me happy, blah, blah. the rest is so sugary that if Pánfilo were with them watching, he could suffer a diabetic coma!! Not all is honey over oats, and the sugary conversation between them gets sour when Delia finally gets a hold of Jesús and advises him about Uri's discharge. Jesús worries for a little while, but then starts planning the last night in Playa del Carmen, so why worry for tomorrow when tomorrow is not here yet?
Tonight Pancho will have supper! And after the dance, who can take away the fun? Live, love for tomorrow who knows where will we be!

Rogelio's doctor not only makes house visits, but makes them at any time. Turns out, that Rogelio's little friend is well now and he didn't have to wait 4 months! Just a few days ago he was limping and now he can have sex! WHAT!!! Now that he can, he has nobody to do it with? So not fair!! Let's see if Patricia, after all that arguing and humilliation, is still available! Cut to some sexy thoughts of Patricia modeling the whole Victoria's secret catalog. And yes! Patricia is not only a woman, she  is a WOMAN IN LOVE! and love is blinding! Or the excuse, or juárever, the thing is that when Rogelio says Rana, Patricia jumps! 

Damn green bubble in the way to Uri's abs! 
Looneyvision, in yet another attempt to not let us see what's going on, on the screen, uses this big, huge bubbles to advertise things we actually don't care about! Be this weeks fan! Call this number with the correct answer and win a trip to Xalapa! Call or tweet! Like us on Facebook! I am tired of these things taking so much space on screen!
Well... The reason is that Uri and Alejandra ARE GETTING NAKED and I can not see a damn thing!! Juárever. I will use my imagination, because I have one, and it IS HUGE!!

Ok, back in Chatita's, Ray and Valentina do their homework while Elías tell Chatita about the apartment. She hopes all this is not in the hopes to bed little Mariselita, but she can rest assured, all is because of the family, with this new place, Pánfilo and his daughter will be happy as every family should be.The phone rings and it is Pánfilo, inviting Chatita over to see it.

WHAT TIME IS IT? 
Why are all these people still in the office?
Xóchitl looks busy while Marisela, who is more hard-headed that many of us thought, keeps living in her fantasy world, and tells Ricardo she is moving to a eight room mansion with a pool and library and the whole nine yards. Ricardo wanted to go to the movies but there is no better movie for Marisela than the one playing in her head, where she is rich and famous. Poor little rich girl!!
Then Fernando, who didn't learn anything from what Cárdenas told him, keeps calling Xóchitl UGLY, LITTLE MONSTER, LITTLE GHOST, and such. She is not worried though, because she has a plan, and revenge will be very sweet, once served cold. Susana watches how degrading that name calling is, but Xóchitl tell her not to worry.

It was about time for Sebastián to go away.
He writes a good bye letter to Alma and after that goes to say goodbye to Susana with a nasty, sloppy and very wet and disgusting kiss! She liked it, and that tells a lot about her!! He is going to the USA to a residence (maybe some kind of a healthcare place, because his heart needs attention). By the looks of it, Susana might need that herself, because after he leaves, she feels her heart like it is going to fall flat on the floor... Oh, such is love, such is love, for young people and old!!

Before going to bed, Jesús and Alma take a long bubble (and rose petals) bath while we hear ONE MORE TIME, that tiresome song I am tired of!!

And tomorrow Valentina gets kidnapped! Good, so we leave all that honey and sugar on the shelf and start running and screaming!!
 
 
 

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Pablo,

Marvelous, fab recap.

I had to laugh at Alejandra showing up for Yuri, that was too funny! He is so huge and she is tiny compared to him.

That dinner that Alma and Chucho had was fab, and it was lobster and beef. I liked the first course with the soup. It looked so good. I love how they show the food on this show.

Ferny actually wants to work? Que? I am glad he is actually going to do something instead of playing those games on his computer.

I wish that Patymelt wouldn't run over to Rogue's just cause he called her. She needs to make things right with Alma and straighten herself out. This is just a booty call.

That was a nice thing that Elias did for Panfilo and Maricela. Now hopefully Maricela does away with her delusions of grandeur.

So Ray's secret is out. I just knew she was a girl. I wonder who is taking care of her now. She is one tough little girl.

Ay yi yi, Dr Loca strikes on Friday! I am NOT liking that one bit!
 

Ah Pablo, no one spins this TN like you do. The snarkiness reigned!!

And I couldn't agree more about that song--gees. You would think that the money they got for pitching this vacation spot would cover some extra tunes for this show. And anyone else think we got the ol' Univision editor having fun during the "love" scene with ChuMa? Like the pancakes, get us all worked up and then fizzle. Ok, again, family hour, but we got more Yuri than FC--where is that right?

So another plot step to get Ferny to the "light". He wants to really work and know what to do? I see the makings of a future exec...maybe Pancho style, but Avon doesn't seem to be fussy in management qualities. And afterall---someone needs to be running the place. Everyone else seems busy.

So yesterday I was thinking the keys were for Vero or the long-shot Panfilo. So we got the long shot--who knew. Nice gesture by Elias, but I don't like him and Mari together, so hopefully that isn't part of this whole plot. Frankly, after she STILL put on her stupid act with Ricardo, I would rather he focus on someone else. Anyone else.

HATE HATE HATE those previews.

Daisynjay
 

What a great way to start the day with your "timely" oh so snarky recap! I especially liked your definition of "gourmet". Thanks.

So, these were the romantic moments we were waiting for. . .??? I thought I must have dozed off and missed somethings but I hadn't. Daisynjay, I like your censor theory.

Well, I am ready for some kidnapping and getting the plot moving on to the next day if nothing more interesting is going to happen on the Mayan Riviera.

Pablo, do you know what date we are at approximately?

Jarifa
 

After 2 days of not watching the TN, yesterday was a very good episode:
I didn't see VERONICA!
They should rotate them and make 'em go so we don't have to see them.
Today verónica, tomorrow Chatita, and so on...
 

Thanks Pablo!

Uni definitely edited that love scene at the end. Their song started, and then jumped right to the end (they showed us more in the previews). I wasn't too upset about it because I did NOT want to hear that damn song for a sixth time in one night.

Wasn't anyone keeping track of the change of clothes? I think there were at least two other outfits on that same day, added to all the ones we saw last episode. It's all still the same day, right? I ask, not just because of the obscene number of changes of clothes Alma and Jesus went through, but also because they seemed to have watched the sunset TWICE in two different places (on the bridge and on the beach).

I am guessing that Rogue sent Alejandra as a type of tribute gift to Yuri, and it's not that she's the only prostitute in Monterrey. She looked tiny next to giant Yuri. But she didn't seem to mind, at all.

Anyone else taken aback by how Chatitia just blurted out to Ray, "I'm remembering the day that your mother was MURDRED"?! I don't usually mind Chatita shocking the adults with her brutal (and loopy) honesty. But couldn't she rein it in a bit with a little kid?

 

Sorry for the typos...murdered, etc.
 

Well... is all about ''the family'' but is also all about the violence (verbal and depicted). The scene with Marta's flashback where the husband was beating her with the belt buckle was also very uncomfortable to watch, or so I read here.

I wonder what else is in store for us?
 

Jarifa, I am sure is still January.

The wedding took place on the first weekend, the next was the birthday, the breakup and then the video and all the wasabi faces, so, I don't buy that story of Rogelio's little friend getting well this soon. But Juárever! I am only watching it for the commercials!!
 

Brilliant recap, Pablo, as always. Your imagination is...well, enormous.
 

Mads, Ray told Vale that he lives with his half-brother and made a point of adding "same mother, different father." So it could be anybody...maybe one of the characters we already know?
 

Pablo, as always I enjoy reading your recap.
You are so witty.
I particularly enjoyed the chronological events of the day and the lessons learned. You are too much!
Vivi - I was watching the clothing changes, still hoping for a shirtless Chucho.
Yurt- ewwww!!! More like a jungle animal than Tarzan!!!
 

Thanks, Pablo! Looks like yet again I picked the wrong night to miss an episode. I thought I was only going to miss one brief, sloppily edited love scene. Instead, I missed a whole bunch of stuff and I will have to go back and watch it all...

In any case, I'm glad you have a HUGE imagination!

Have we seen the pancakes yet?

YES! TONGUE!!

Madelaine, when you said Friday, does that mean there's no show tonight?

Lobster and beef = "surf 'n' turf"? It always sounds luxurious, but I don't think they really go together. I'd rather just have one or the other. Or the double-cheeseburger.

At the start of the episode, did Alma and Chucho really talk as though they'd already been to bed together the night before? If they did, we missed ALL of that!
 

Julie:

Yes, there is no show tonight. There is Premios Juventud on tonight so no TNs. : (
 

Thanks, Mads. I am RELIEVED. I was just thinking how we haven't been pre-empted even once yet. This will give me a chance to catch up on last night's episode!
 

Pablo, great recap. I laughed so hard, especially about the only prostitute, ahem, escort, in Monterrey. I agree with Julie. YES1 TONGUE! Sami
 

Pablo, Thanks for bringing us to our senses with your dry eyed look at all this silliness. I always look forward to your interpretations. I am glad we are getting less of Veronica just now, she is beautiful but so BSC and I still fear for her harmful influence on Valentina. Her scenes with Rogelio are quite entertaining though since they are rivals for the Most Insane crown. From the previews that crown may be snatched by Marta however and Chatita seems wrapped up in public service announcements on diabetes care so she won't get even runner-up.

I find it odd sometimes that the US is so prissy about cutting the good parts out of steamy scenes. I think Mexicans and their telenovelas are so much more comfortable with the human body and its functions. FColunga in other roles has been much more revealing. I am thinking fondly of some scenes in Alborada when in spite of everyone being draped in too much fabric in general, he managed to have some near naked moments so we could enjoy the view.
 

Hey Pablo, I am convinced you are a writer for a Hollywood Screen Writer's Company.

I stop watching a couple of weeks ago, shortly after Natasha blossomed as the latest Diva....(She looks like the race car driver's twin sister---no real names---I remember)

BTW, Lobster and Beef, is called "surf and turf" at Red Lobster. (oops - a real restaurant)

I didn't watch all of last night either, but with no MLB until Friday, I thought i would get caught up by reading your re-cap.

I did get to see Seabass, and Sussie-Q kiss, and it was ugly, much like watching your parents kiss...'Yucky.

Anyways....Great Job.

Anon#1
"In All Things Give Thanks"
Lee
 

Yep Vivi, that's why I thought the editors had fun. The song, that blasted song, was butchered and that usually only happens when they delete some of the scene.

So, as Pablo's reminds us, we get to see the brutal beating of Marta by her deranged whomever, but we can't get a few moments of kissy face? Okey dokey then.

As for the change of clothes and the dual sunsets ( maybe we are in an alternate universe?), all I kept thinking is -- does Chucho have his own room 'cos otherwise where are they changing clothes all the time? Methinks our little scamps have been having some off scene fun without us.

Daisynjay
 

Maybe Playa del Carmen is so special, they have an extra sun so everyone can enjoy twice as many sunsets!

They should probably put that in the brochure.
 

Hola Pablo and thanks a million for your fun recap. I'm sure I had a big smile on my face the whole way through. You are so good at being able to recap and see all the details! Loved your snark about the big green bubble covering Uri's bodacious abs. That actor seems to be having the time of his life in his role of Uri Petrovsky.

Oh my, I was truly drooling over the restaurant scenes and the over-long shots of the food. I thank the director and editors for that. I'm not a fan of surf and turf (like others of you I prefer surf OR turf) but the plates were beautiful. I thought their soup looked like am upscale version of tortilla soup with its creamy chile bisque, little floaters of tortilla strips and islands of crema and cilantro. Yum!!

I thought all the clothing changes and numerous sunsets were a hoot.

Thanks again Pablo. I am still waiting for pancakes. No PEAM tonight, huh? Oh well. I'm just as glad to get the kidnapping over with early as opposed to continually threatening us with it.
 

I see on the omniscient Wikipedia that "picadillo" can be translated as "hash" -- and also that it comes from the verb picar = to mince. So I guess Uri is saying he's going to make mincemeat out of Chucho.
 

I liked the idea that Uri was going to make relish (piccalilli) out of Chucho too, heh. The way that Uri kept muttering "picadillo" the other night I couldn't tell if he was hungry or just wanting to make mincemeat out of Chucho.
 

Yeah, picadillo is a northern dish (taco and stuffed peppers filling), and is ground beef (or mix) with potatoes and carrots finely diced, spices and jalapeño pepper thinly cut lenghtwise with some of the vinegar from the can. Is simply delicious!!
 

If turquoise is the birthstone for December, why is Alma's birthday in January? I thought Jesus picked out the Tiffany engagement ring because it was her birthstone.

 

I thought turrquoise was just her favorite stone, not necessarily her birthstone. But I may be wrong.
 

The actual jewelry is not made of turquoise. So either he bought it because it was turquoise in color or the TN is pretending it is turquoise.

"turquoise" is kind of a cool word to say.
 

He called her to ask when her birthday was, though, and THEN picked it out...
 

My friend from Manchester England pronounces it "tur-kwoz" which is cool.

Way back when Jesus bought that engagement ring for Rogue to give Alma, he asked the jewelry store saleslady for the birthstone for Aquarius and the lady said it was Turquoise. There was some discussion about Turquoise not actually being an Aquarius birthstone, LOL! But in our alternate universe of many sunsets and no pancakes it appears that Turquoise, which is Alma's favorite stone, gets to be her birthstone as well. Anyway, that's how I remember it, but I am notorious for revising history.
 

Cap'n, that is how I remember it as well.
 

Duh! I completely forgot there are different stones for different aspects. Turquoise is the planetary birthstone for Aquarians.
 

Aquarius is the sign for January 19 to February 18.
Garnet is the birthstone for January; Amethyst is the birthstone for February; Turquoise is the birthstone for December.
So it (turquoise) is neither Alma's stone for her birthday NOR for her sign, so what's up writers? Did Chucho ask for her birth date to figure out her favorite stone? Huh?

Beanie time!
 

Oops, Nanette - you are correct. Sorry, Beanie off!

Anon 3:20
 

Ah Pablo, I could just hear your teeth gnashing as you recapped this sugar-sweet It's All About Family And Doing Good and Double Sunsets And Sloppy Kisses. And dang, I missed it.

You had me going though with "regiomontano". Thought that it was a Spanish word I needed to add to my vocab list. Having fun with us again, were you?

Anyway, enjoyed greatly the recap with your side helping of bile.

Alas, I am one of those who does love Surf 'n Turf and cheesecake for dessert please! so I hesitate to watch this food porn episode. But on the other hand, I'd really like to check out Uri's romance. Decisions. Decisions.

But not doubt at all about the recap. Just great.
 

Anon 3:20: It is very confusing. Oh, for the simple days when you only had to know two birthstones for each month: the semi precious and the crystal.

My birthday is in March: Aquamarine and Bloodstone.
 

Always funny, Pablo. What a treat.

So have Alma and Chucho bumped little cars already, or are they stretching out the romantic buildup? How many days has it been? So much confusion and so many wardrobe changes. Maybe Chucho has been sleeping in the hammock or on the sofa of that spectacular hotel room with private pool.

I thought it was a little abrupt and careless the way Chatita brought up Ray's mother's murder. Yeesh. I wonder what will happen to Ray. Will someone adopt her, or will her father turn up?

Uri and Alex were funny. He always cracks me up, but her wide-eyed reaction to him was funny, too. Maybe she can keep him busy and away from Chucho for awhile.
 

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Julia, I watched it this morning and although I assume they bumped little cars, we were shown so little of the scene that I couldn't swear to it. It might not be too late for them to get interrupted.

But since that scene was at the end of the episode, it's possible that we'll see a longer version of it tonight (still edited for those of delicate disposition, of course, but possibly longer).

I have noticed that sometimes the last scene of an episode is a condensed version of a longer scene that's shown first thing the next night. I don't mean like it's a five-minute scene and they show just the first three minutes of it. More like they seem to have the entire conversation on the first night, but the next night you'll see that there was more stuff after the beginning but before the end of what we already saw.

Fictitious example - end of night 1:

Rogue: You've got some nerve, making my dog like you!
Chucho: Oh yeah? What are you gonna do about it?
Rogue: I'm gonna put you in the doghouse!

Start of night 2:

Rogue: You've got some nerve, making my dog like you!
Chucho: Is that really what's bothering you?
Rogue: No! I'm angry that my brother and Alma both like you better than me, too!
Chucho: Maybe you should be nicer to people. I'm nice. That's what makes me irresistible.
Rogue: I've got a better plan to win them all back!
Chucho: Oh yeah? What are you gonna do about it?
Rogue: I'm gonna put you in the doghouse!

Like that. Or is it just my imagination?
 

Ha ha, Julie, I like your version better, anyway.

Hope I don't get an overfull helping of the gooshy stuff tonight. (If the Lad were here, he'd take one look at that scattering-rose-petals-in-the-bathwater business, wrinkle up his nose and say, "Girl sex!") On the other hand, I'm happy to spare the blogging Moms the angst of having to recap child peril.
 

A question for my fellow recappers and commenters since this only my third telenovela: I thought the lovemaking scenes in PESE between the leads were very stingy in terms of frequency, content and length and now with PEAM they are proving to be maybe even stingier if this is all we get of Jesus and Alma. In my short experience with the genre, the lovemaking scenes between Fer and Lety in LFMB are almost risque in comparison even though I thought they were so PG at the time. Have lovemaking scenes between the leads in telenovelas suffered more and more censorship in terms of length, frequency, and content as time has gone on? Maybe there are 2 or if your'e lucky 3 love scenes after making you suffer through well over 100 or in the case of LFMB 300 episodes. It is odd that the same type of scenes between other characters are quite explicit, longer and more frequent? ( Rogelio and Paty for example.) Are the lead characters going to be sharing a room with twin beds next ala Lucy and Desi or the Petries? Sure seems that way. lol

Jarifa


 

Interesting question, Jarifa. I don't know if this is really a trend, or if it has more to do with the kinds of TNs I've been watching.

The last three I've watched were all comedies. Before that, I was seeing a lot more sex scenes. (Clumsily edited, but at least you knew whether or not they'd done the deed.) So maybe heavier drama is rewarded with heavier sex?

True, LFMB was a comedy, but actually I remember only two sex scenes - the one at the hotel on her bday, and the one at Omar's apartment. Then there was the nude swimming dream sequence at Cuernavaca. That's not much for 300 episodes, is it?

I remember a lot more in Pasion and in FELS, both of which came later.

And not much in Destilando, really, even though it was after LFMB and before Pasion.

So I'm not at all sure that it's really a trend on the Televisa side. More a matter of what the producers/directors feel that they can pull off based on the script and actors they're working with.

Let's see how that scene plays (or replays) out in full length tonight. Also, maybe the uncut version is on youtube someplace for comparison purposes.
 

This could also be something Looneyvision is doing because here in USA people live in bubbles and nowadays everything bothers everybody.
Is just a guess, because in México, shows have sex, brief nudity, farts, and meaningless words like huevos (eggs/testicles) that Looneyvision edit so the audience here don't get upset.

I remember watching the end of STD and thinking, wth with Lucero taking off her bra in a very daring love scene (I am not sure it was STD but it was Lucero, whom I always considered prudish and wholesome family mother of two, juárever, I don't think all this comes from Televisa...
 

Sortilegio did not hold back on the love scenes. Amores Verdaderos hasn't much, either. I think comedies tend to have less, plus it just depends on the producer/director/actors. I think some actors have in their contracts that they won't do any scenes that more than merely suggest that intercourse will be/has been had, and producers have different preferences as to the tone of their shows.
 

Obviously Univision does edit a lot, but typically it is just enough to satisfy specific technicalities (poop words, nipples, butt cracks, certain types of... er... movement), etc. But they typically do NOT cut out a whole scene so that you don't even know if something happened.

And they aren't especially sneaky about it, either. Someone already mentioned how you can always tell something was cut, because the music gets cut too. Awkwardly.

All I'm saying is that while Uni's censorship is annoying and obtrusive, at least you can still tell that a dog has peed on someone's shoes, someone has uttered a racial slur, somebody got lucky in bed, etc.

Meanwhile, I'd say there is zero chance that Televisa will ever tone anything down just because Univision wants them to. From what I understand of the relationship between Televisa and Univision, it is much more likely that Televisa would double up on the nudity and tell Uni to go jump in the cenote.
 

Yes.
It's silly...

I remember when this TN started, Fernando used to call Jesús many names, all of them of flowers.
I don't see anything wrong with that because the point was that Fernando wanted to imply that Jesús was a secretary and therefore, not masculine.

Here, Univisión muted all that.
Isn't stupid?
Why would they want to predigest what we want to watch and why do they want us not to be exposed to what they consider offensive?

 

PS:

What they should be doing is not cutting TNs in the middle and not letting us watch the second half!

I get more offended when they walk all over me altering schedules and cutting stuff midways, because I am their audience and I deserve respect, than if they let words and images for all to see.
This is not double standard, its triple!!

I am done, thanks!
 

Julie:

We've had some unusual situations on AV. First there was a major racial slur I missed and was called on the carpet for, then there was an image of a female body part in graffiti on the side of a building and then there was all the cuts to the lovemaking of the Angel and Ms Vikki on that one. The first two were not bleeped out or blurred out but the lovemaking was cut to ribbons go figure. Uni was either unobservant or they missed it entirely as the first two go.
 

I think Televisa producers make whatever they want, based on what they think will be acceptable to their Mexican audience, and Uni is just inconsistent in its censoring practices.

I agree with Pablo; what's REALLY irritating is when Uni just chops down the show partway through the run, and they either end it early entirely or butcher it such that you can't follow what is going on. It is VERY disrespectful to the audience.
 

Messing with the schedule is what really drives me crazy. One time they started a PESE episode an hour early. It was a pretty big episode, too. Someone died.

We have been abnormally lucky with PEAM. They haven't started any episodes an hour early or an hour late, or run way over an hour, or even skipped a night until last night. PESE and UFCS had all kinds of irregularities.
 

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