Saturday, July 06, 2013
Qué Bonito Amor #60 (Mex 89.2-90) Friday 7/5/13 Drowning in Sorrows
Cap. 90-91
Lo
Del Pasado:
El Coloso knows he’s
gotten the final rejection notice with the news from Maria and Mama that there
is a Jorgecito Alfredito on the way.
Lo Del Nuevo:
Col leaves Maria’s apartment in a
broken-hearted, sniveling snit. Maria runs
after him, hoping half-heartedly to keep him from doing something stupid. (Good luck.
El Col has his macho permanently locked in the “on” position.)
Rodrigo learns from
Paloma that Jorge Alfredo and Maria broke up because, according to Maria, he
didn’t trust her enough. They determine
they’ll always be truthful with one another and seal it with a puppy-love
kiss. Suddenly Rodri remembers he has
something in the apartment that could help JA and Maria mend fences. He and Pal head for his dad’s place to get “it”,
it being a letter JAntos had written and torn up some time ago.
At the “Crossed-Off”
bar [El Bar Cruz de Olvido= Cross of the Abandoned/ The Forgotten’s Cross (to bear?), Olvido=also oblivion, obscurity],
JAntos, now duly crossed off Maria’s All Time Top Ten list and having landed on Maria’s sh!t list, continues crying into his bottle of tequila while he listens to a group of
so-called mariachis struggle to carry a tune and struggling even more for a
reason to finish the song. (Having
to listen to that bunch definitely had me crying too.)
At first Maria refuses
to read the letter, but eventually (as Viewerville hopes) curiosity gets the
better of her, since it was, after all, addressed to her.
Back at the
Crossed-Off, JAntos tells the old guy
who was singing that if they sing the next song the same way they sang the
last, then might as well not bother singing at all. (I am in total agreement. He should be on The Voice. He qualifies, now doesn't he?)
Across the barrio over
at El Sonador’s apartment, Ana and the others are giving Mil Amores grief for
always being on JA’s side and seemingly forgetting how JA screwed and screwed
over Maria. … El Coloso barges in and grabs
him by the collar. “—Where is he?” “—How should I know? What’s your problem?” “--The sorry S.O.B. got
her pregnant!”
The crap mariachis challenge
JAntos to sing (ok.ok., I do kinda feel for ‘em but I’ve had bad dining
experiences at a Mexican restaurant or two and really wondered what the
restaurant’s owner had been thinking to let those characters loose on the
public with a guitar, but then I figured it might’ve been his BIL or FIL and
well…..). We get Cruz de Olvido as homage to the bar—or rather the misbegotten patrons
that frequent that dump. At the same
time, Maria begins to read through JAntos’s forgotten missive.
Mil tells Col that
even if he knew where Vargas was he wouldn’t tell him. Anyway, Col’s got no reason to complain to
the guy, says Mil. “—I’m not going to
complain to him! I’m going to kill
him!” (Oh, that will do a lot for Maria and
her baby, now won’t it? NOT.) He storms out and the gritching Ana (who is
beginning to wear on my last nerve) carps to him afterwards that all that’s
missing now is a tragedy to occur and when it does, it will be Mil Amores
fault! It’s cara de
OMG-stop-this-merrygoround-cuz-i-gotta-get-off
de Fernando de Mil Amores.
The [old] boys in the
band ask him whether he’s sung and worked or not; he admits he used to be a
mariachi. They tell him once a mariachi,
always a mariachi and offer a singing gig to JAntos in exchange for a free bar
tab. They throw in a borrowed charro and
he accepts. “—Great. You start tonight.” Hic.
Wunnerful.
Maria, meanwhile is
engrossed in JAntos’s written confession:
“By the time you might
read this I probably will not be there by then.
I know it is difficult to understand my behavior, therefore I wish to
explain my reasons; but before anything else, let me say that you are the only
woman with whom I’ve fallen in love, or will ever love. I feel guilty for awakening the love in your
heart. The worst is I have a secret that
I’m fearful of revealing to you because I don’t know if you’ll be able to
understand or to forgive my not having told you earlier about myself. My name is not Jorge Vargas. This is a name that I made up to get out of
trouble (salir del paso). My real name
is Santos Martinez de la Garza, and I’m not poor. I’m a millionaire....."
Back at El Soñador’s,
Ana still has her harangue on. “—You’d
think he’d known him for years, all his life or something!” Soñador defends Mil for having always been on
the side of justice and being totally loyal.
Yeah, Letti says, but this is beginning to tear us apart. Just then Lourdes shows up with a couple of
shopping bags for El Sonny and the two girls decide to exit stage left. Ana and Letti feel a bit goofy that Concho’s
wife is supposedly having a fling with a younger man, but on the other hand,
Ana figures he’s got to have his space.
So mum’s the word about Elvira’s Mum.
Amalia and Mancia are
having a heart to heart about their grown children. Amalia advises Mancia that it’s time she
realizes her son is a grown man with a mind and a life of his own to live. Mancia refuses to give an inch. FF>>
Back at the
Crossed-Off, the mariachis gossip amongst themselves about JAntos apparently
drowning his sorrows like all the other long-forgotten lovers who’ve past
through the place.
Maria continues to
read:
“…I know that you hate
a lie, and hopefully you’ll understand my reasons and be able to forgive me,
but if you cannot I am going to understand it.
You should know that you are the only woman I love or will love.
…Forever yours,
Jorge Alfredo”
Pal and Rodri help Isa
with her math and Rod shows her a trick to help her remember it. FF>>
Maria decides to root
around in the packing box of JAntos’s stuff and digs up her papa’s charro she’d
lent him. Mama walks in on her. Maria
says it still holds his scent. She can
sense him with her. It’s painful, but
she knows eventually it will all end.
It hurts just as badly
for JAntos. He gets ready to change into
this much less impressive charro and forlornly remembers when Maria gave him
her father’s to use.
In the dressing room
at the JNTR Bar meanwhile, the mariachis are all giving Fernando a hard time
for protecting JAntos. El Coloso says
it’s Fer’s fault that he lost Maria for forever. Fer sniffs and washes his hands of the whole
griping lot of them. They’re all about
to start using him as a punching bag when Mirna comes in and yells at them to
hurry up and get on stage. She takes El
Aventurero aside and makes sure that he knows she’s available the next morning for
a little stolen nookie since Concho won’t be around.
Susanito now tries to
make amends with his lady love, but Irasema isn’t having any. She forgives him, but not the suspicion he
had that Mama was right that she had a fling with JAntos. Theirs is still the impossible dream and their
relationship is kaput.
The bar promotes Mil
and his songs, but it doesn’t make any difference. Maria and JAntos were the big draw along with
El Coloso, but since the two of them left, profits have been cut in half and so
half of the gang will have to be let go unless they can convince one or the
both of them to return to the bar. El
Col gets into a schoolyard snit and threatens to leave the bar if JA
returns. Mirna tells him this is bidnez
and bidnez hasn’t got time for childish temper tantrums. It’s what the public demands and that’s what
they’re going to have to give them, y punto!
If the bar is to survive, then they’ve got to find JA and fast! Nobody has any idea—well one somebody does
and it’s Ira. She tells Concho and the
gang the name of the bar. Elvira and El
Col both take note.
It’s way past bedtime
and Maria begins crying in her sleep.
Amalia has to lull her back to dreamland. FF>>
El Col is the first to
find JAntos at the Crossed-Off. “—I’ve
been looking for you, you crummy panhandler, you!” He pulls JA to his feet.
JAntos staggers and momentarily gains a
bit of balance. “—Here I am. You found me, so what’s up?” “—I found out now that Maria is
expecting your child!” “—It’s none of
your business.” “—Anything to do with
Maria is my business!” “—Who sayz?” “—I sayz and that’s
more than enough [sobra y basta!].” “—Look,
Coloso, you’re a fool. (A fool’s colossal fool, I’d
say, and an irritating one at that.) Nothing that might have anything to do
with MY Bonita concerns [te incumbe] you!”
“--You tricked her! You tricked
her! You tricked her!” (How about once
more for emphasis?) Col let’s go with a
right jab and connects with JA’s nose.
Blood squirts. (Viewerville has a panic attack over the white
shirt and pretty charro bow tie.) The two
of them go at it with fisticuffs. “—That’s
my problem!”
“—Darn right it is,
you cowardly S.O.B.!!” Col breaks a
bottle and gets ready to use the neck on JAntos. JAntos says by all means, go for it! “--You’d be doing me a great big favor! Without my Bonita my heart is useless piece
of pulp. It’s dead! What’s a matter? is The Great Coloso de Apodaca really a
coward?” He ought to do him, admits Col,
for taking the thing he most loves in the world away from him: Maria. “—Ah, she wasn’t yours! You never had her! I’m just a dead man walking without her. I’ve lost her and you’ve won her.” Col starts to go for
the grand jab but Fernando yells at him from the entrance to stop just at that
very moment and Col stops in his tracks.
“—Throw
it down. Throw away that bottle now!” Col does what he’s told but then tries for
one last punch. Fer grabs his arm and
tells him this is where it ends.
Fer reminds Col that
it’s not JA’s fault that Maria loves him.
Yeah, he says, but it’s a love full of lies, betrayals and suffering! JAntos
staggers in outrage and spits out a heartfelt retort. “—It’s pure, clean love, but I already told
you it’s finished with!” Col whines at Fer for always taking JA’s side
and Fer defends himself saying he’s always on the side of reason. Fighting doesn’t resolve this kind of a
dispute, reasons Fer and it’s best taking up the argument with the lady you’re
upset over, not by a barroom brawl, buddy.
Col storms out of the bar and JAntos orders another bottle for him and
Fer to share. No way, says Fer. “--Either you stop
drinking of your own free will or I’m going to make you do it by force! JA screams at him to get lost and leave him
be, but Fer refuses. He doesn’t give a peanut’s
patooty what JA wants and he understands perfectly what’s happening here, he
adds. So, does he want the two of them
to start the fisticuff two-step now, or what?
JA warns Fer off him ‘cause
it could be dangerous. Fer says too bad ‘cause
in the barrio it’s all for one and one for all.
Listen, Bro, says JA, sooner or later they are going to catch me and
they’re going to rip me to pieces! Leave
me here to be forgotten. This is the
place for that they say, so leave me be!
Fer tells him he’s got to fight.
JAntos believes he’s got nothing to fight for and what could Fer do to
stop anybody anyway? Fer grabs him by
the collar and stands him up on his feet.
“—That defenseless little baby that’s on the way, that’s what! You’re it’s father! Understand now?”
Yeah, but Bonita doesn’t
want anything to do with him, says JAntos.
Oh, she’s just hurt and that blinds her, but it will all pass shortly,
says Fer. If he was so smart, counters
JA, then why’d he ever get to be friends with him, let him make him betray his
buddies and Maria? Because, answers Fer,
you’re innocent and a good guy. So come
on, walk. JA fights him away and
refuses. “—I don’t have any hope left!
Don’t you get it?” Fer says he realizes now that all JA wants is
to die, but he doesn’t think JA has the courage of his convictions or the size
balls it would take to accomplish the deed. He’s too scared to fight. They trash talk at each other. It’s Mami’s little rich boy vs. Mr. Nobody
Fifth-rate Mariachi, but Fer lets it all roll off him like water off a duck’s
back. “--Ok. You want to commit suicide? Ok, this fifth rate mariachi will help you do
it! Here, drown yourself, you coward! And
by the way, here’s two thousand pesos courtesy of this little 5th
rate mariachi. Go ahead. Kill yourself, you first rate coward!” Fer’s had enough for the night and leaves JA to
drown himself in his self-pity. Once he’s
left, JAntos cries to himself and moans how sorry he is for treating his bro,
Fer, like this.
Maria is finally back
to sleeping peacefully.
Elvira now has her
turn at bat with Jorge Alfredo. He’s
drunk as a skunk and every bit as odiferous, bloody snot oozing from his nose, but
nope, the girl has no sense of self-worth, so she could care less. She’s going to take him, apparently, any way
she can get him! (Uggh! We don’t even want to go there, now do we? ) Suffice it to say that he accepts her
advances and says well, it’s well past time the two of them got it together and
get it on. She’s beautiful and thooooo thhheduc-hic!-tive, doncha know. It’s time they take advantage of the
opportunity they have. He kisses her paw. “—Dessssperately.” Vi nods, thinking it’s
going to be a hot time in the home sack tonight. “--Ok, then join me, won’t you for something
we needed to do a while ago.?” “--Ohhh! Guau!”
He helps her with her coat. She’s all Lead the way, Jorge! Lead the way!
A few minutes later,
JA has Elvirus park in front of Maria’s bedroom window. What’s this for? To show Maria who he really is in love with,
that’s what for? Is she afraid to or
what? Not in the least! Okiedokes! They get out of the car and JAntos starts
yelling for Maria at the top of his lungs.
Elvirus asks if she didn’t stop being his Bonita yet. JA just rolls his eyes at her and keeps
yelling. “—Maria!! Maria!!
Maria!!” Maria finally wakes up
and goes to the window. “—He’s got
Elvira with him! I never thought he’d
ever do that. What’s he doing anyway,
she asks rhetorically? “--I’ve got no
idea, Mama, what he’s trying to do here.” Mama looks on in horror. Viewerville holds its breath in anticipation
of the next episodio…..
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Can't wait for your take on what i call JAntos Jumps into Jerkville. LOL
Permalink posted by 
: Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 12:29:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 12:29:00 PM EDT
Well, well, well. Didn't have a chance to comment yesterday, but my observations still stand:
Amalia got what she wanted--all the girls together, united--no dirty men invading their pure lives. AND, she gets to tell Maria that the best thing a parent can do is to let their children make their own decisions about life (Ha, that was soooo good). I wonder, though, what she's going to do about Paloma and Rodri--it won't be long before their hormones rage out of control.
Maria and Santos got what they wanted--to suffer in conjoined MISERY.
Maria needs everyone else around her to be miserable, too. The reasons she gave to Isa for breaking up with JAntos are wobbly at best. Isa's reply was the best--The virgencita endorses forgivenes.
Santos gets to be friendless in a friendless place. The Bar de Olvido mariachi guys were pretty decent to him and Fernando tried his best. So, in his state of mind, parading Elvira in front of Maria will solve his problem--yes, she will definitely close the door on him and he'll feel the torture is perfectly justified.
Mejia got what he wanted--another fight between men who need so little to provoke one.
I sure am glad they are squeezing up the episodes. I want this so to be over. Maybe we could ask for a dispensation for intervening episodes and go straight to meses despues where
1. Justo and Santos have successfully brought the Innocence Project to a conclusion
2. Amalia gets the bar
3. Coloso gets Elvira pregnant and Concho, poor Concho, he doesn't know what to do in this case.
4. Paloma and Rodri do a little experimenting and she gets pregnant. Amalia is pithed. They run off to Tamaulipas to get married, find Gloria and live happily ever after.
5. Isa finds out she is related to Altagracia through a distant cousin and she and Santos go to Paris with Justo, Wendy and the baby (obvio, the Ministerio gives him back his post).
6. Maria watches sadly as their plane takes off for Paris. She is going to be a single parent and she and Amalia have to change the diapers.
7. Giuliano gets his and goes to lie with the fishes and Padrino looks for another "partner."
8. Ruben loses his strip joint, his wealth, house, family and starts singing mariachi in el Bar de Olvido.
9. Fabian makes a deal with Padrino and ends up with a certain strip joint, becomes wealthy, buys a house and a wife.
10. Fernando becomes chief justice of the Distrito Federal. Ana is impressed, but she lost her chance with him.
11. Mancia gets sick and only has Irasema who will take care of her. Dependent on her, she urges Susanito to marry her and come live in their depa. (That's one I'd like to see!!)
Amalia got what she wanted--all the girls together, united--no dirty men invading their pure lives. AND, she gets to tell Maria that the best thing a parent can do is to let their children make their own decisions about life (Ha, that was soooo good). I wonder, though, what she's going to do about Paloma and Rodri--it won't be long before their hormones rage out of control.
Maria and Santos got what they wanted--to suffer in conjoined MISERY.
Maria needs everyone else around her to be miserable, too. The reasons she gave to Isa for breaking up with JAntos are wobbly at best. Isa's reply was the best--The virgencita endorses forgivenes.
Santos gets to be friendless in a friendless place. The Bar de Olvido mariachi guys were pretty decent to him and Fernando tried his best. So, in his state of mind, parading Elvira in front of Maria will solve his problem--yes, she will definitely close the door on him and he'll feel the torture is perfectly justified.
Mejia got what he wanted--another fight between men who need so little to provoke one.
I sure am glad they are squeezing up the episodes. I want this so to be over. Maybe we could ask for a dispensation for intervening episodes and go straight to meses despues where
1. Justo and Santos have successfully brought the Innocence Project to a conclusion
2. Amalia gets the bar
3. Coloso gets Elvira pregnant and Concho, poor Concho, he doesn't know what to do in this case.
4. Paloma and Rodri do a little experimenting and she gets pregnant. Amalia is pithed. They run off to Tamaulipas to get married, find Gloria and live happily ever after.
5. Isa finds out she is related to Altagracia through a distant cousin and she and Santos go to Paris with Justo, Wendy and the baby (obvio, the Ministerio gives him back his post).
6. Maria watches sadly as their plane takes off for Paris. She is going to be a single parent and she and Amalia have to change the diapers.
7. Giuliano gets his and goes to lie with the fishes and Padrino looks for another "partner."
8. Ruben loses his strip joint, his wealth, house, family and starts singing mariachi in el Bar de Olvido.
9. Fabian makes a deal with Padrino and ends up with a certain strip joint, becomes wealthy, buys a house and a wife.
10. Fernando becomes chief justice of the Distrito Federal. Ana is impressed, but she lost her chance with him.
11. Mancia gets sick and only has Irasema who will take care of her. Dependent on her, she urges Susanito to marry her and come live in their depa. (That's one I'd like to see!!)
Anita! I am dying laughing, but I am LOVING...LOVING, I SAY, your comments!! They are great. I vote for #6 as the absolute best one!!!
You are good, Anita, I mean really good with the comments today! Love it!
Fatima
You are good, Anita, I mean really good with the comments today! Love it!
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 6:46:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 6:46:00 PM EDT
I get the episode where Elvirus gets her best shot. I'm sick already.
Prediction: Santos will get either an attack of nausea or ED when Elvira disrobes in front of him. That kills two birds with one stone.
However, I do think that Isabel is somehow related to Santos after all. Why else would he be the only person who had a matching blood type?
Ruben will turn up again soon; we've had two consecutive Ruben-free episodes and that won't be allowed too much longer.
Prediction: Santos will get either an attack of nausea or ED when Elvira disrobes in front of him. That kills two birds with one stone.
However, I do think that Isabel is somehow related to Santos after all. Why else would he be the only person who had a matching blood type?
Ruben will turn up again soon; we've had two consecutive Ruben-free episodes and that won't be allowed too much longer.
UA, I am SURE you will do a great job on the Elvirus episode. Be sure to pick a most appropriate fan for the occasion!
I honestly can't figure out the Isa/Santos relationship. This one has me really curious (really just about the only thing that has me curious on this show!).
Fatima
I honestly can't figure out the Isa/Santos relationship. This one has me really curious (really just about the only thing that has me curious on this show!).
Fatima
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 7:14:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 7:14:00 PM EDT
Mancia and Amelia are in Smother heaven. Those disgusting things are out of their children's lives, never mind the fact that their beloved children are suffering. Smother knows best.
Hate to say it but JAntos has now become a full fledged moronic ass galan. Slurping up cheap tequila (you know it isn't Patron or Don Julio) and alienating one of the few true friends he has in the barrio. Fernando is right he is a first class coward, he isn't fighting for his name or for the woman he claims to love much less for the child that is the true innocent.
I found that scene with Amelia and her cuddling with Maria creepy in the extreme. Her beloved child that she constantly worries over while poor broken hearted Isa get nothing. What kind of mother spends her entire day fussing over her ADULT daughter and ignores a little girl who is in pain, needing a father and being told the one she chose is a lying scum bag.
God help us Trampira has returned. I can only hope that Maria tells her she is pregnant and to get the hell out of the barrio. Won't happen of course because Maria prefers to whine and cry, blame JAntos for everything bad. Actually the whole barrio crowd, most of whom are now suffering from something and most are blaming it on the hapless JAntos while the real cause of all the suffering is their sainted Maria.
I really hate to say this but at this point I could use a little Derecho and Goofy and slimy Rueben, Fabnot and OJ. At least they don't spend their whole lives in tears.
Hate to say it but JAntos has now become a full fledged moronic ass galan. Slurping up cheap tequila (you know it isn't Patron or Don Julio) and alienating one of the few true friends he has in the barrio. Fernando is right he is a first class coward, he isn't fighting for his name or for the woman he claims to love much less for the child that is the true innocent.
I found that scene with Amelia and her cuddling with Maria creepy in the extreme. Her beloved child that she constantly worries over while poor broken hearted Isa get nothing. What kind of mother spends her entire day fussing over her ADULT daughter and ignores a little girl who is in pain, needing a father and being told the one she chose is a lying scum bag.
God help us Trampira has returned. I can only hope that Maria tells her she is pregnant and to get the hell out of the barrio. Won't happen of course because Maria prefers to whine and cry, blame JAntos for everything bad. Actually the whole barrio crowd, most of whom are now suffering from something and most are blaming it on the hapless JAntos while the real cause of all the suffering is their sainted Maria.
I really hate to say this but at this point I could use a little Derecho and Goofy and slimy Rueben, Fabnot and OJ. At least they don't spend their whole lives in tears.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 7:27:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 7:27:00 PM EDT
I think Amalia's ignoring Isabel while fussing over Maria is the "llamada de la sangre" crap I've hated ever since I've begun watching these in the first place. Mothers don't always love their children whether they are natural or adopted.
Amalia is afraid of losing her meal ticket (Maria) in addition to being afraid Maria can actually have a happy life with the love of a man. I don't think she realizes the latter and she will never admit the former.
There will be payback about this, though.
Amalia is afraid of losing her meal ticket (Maria) in addition to being afraid Maria can actually have a happy life with the love of a man. I don't think she realizes the latter and she will never admit the former.
There will be payback about this, though.
FF:
Rodri's trick to memorize math, or learn in a fun way is not good for everyone: I am sure Amalia doesn't want the kids to know her real age and that she had Isabel (in case she did) when she was older than 60, LOL!!
Kids, do not EXPOSE your parents like that, is embarrassing!! For them!
Rodri's trick to memorize math, or learn in a fun way is not good for everyone: I am sure Amalia doesn't want the kids to know her real age and that she had Isabel (in case she did) when she was older than 60, LOL!!
Kids, do not EXPOSE your parents like that, is embarrassing!! For them!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 10:59:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, July 6, 2013 at 10:59:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, thanks for the recap and allowing us to revisit the misery. Let's give everyone some hankies to wipe the blood, snot, and tears so they can begin to move on.
One would hope JAntos could rely on his upbringing to do better than a bottle of cheap tequila in a bad bar.
Maria must have a magic sense of smell. It's true that people keep clothing from people in their past to retain the odor. But, NOT once it's been to the cleaners. Everything I bring home from the cleaners smells like cleaning fluid.
One would hope JAntos could rely on his upbringing to do better than a bottle of cheap tequila in a bad bar.
Maria must have a magic sense of smell. It's true that people keep clothing from people in their past to retain the odor. But, NOT once it's been to the cleaners. Everything I bring home from the cleaners smells like cleaning fluid.
Maria's comment that she could still smell Santos on the suit was stupid. That would've made sense if he hadn't cleaned it. Writers, come on!
Maybe Santos really IS Isabel's "papito" and her attachment to him is truly the sangre thing. Could be one of his old casual flings had a kid (defective condom) and didn't know it was his but went back to Mexico and her family got rid of the kid.
IMO (not a spoiler, just a wild guess) Rodri's math trick is going to cause some problems with Amalia and Maria's story about Isa's birth. Maybe Pedro's death was too long before Isa would've been conceived and although Rodrigo may be the only one to figure it out, he may inadvertently say something like, "But that would only make sense if you're adopted!" thinking he's making a joke, of course!
Maybe Santos really IS Isabel's "papito" and her attachment to him is truly the sangre thing. Could be one of his old casual flings had a kid (defective condom) and didn't know it was his but went back to Mexico and her family got rid of the kid.
IMO (not a spoiler, just a wild guess) Rodri's math trick is going to cause some problems with Amalia and Maria's story about Isa's birth. Maybe Pedro's death was too long before Isa would've been conceived and although Rodrigo may be the only one to figure it out, he may inadvertently say something like, "But that would only make sense if you're adopted!" thinking he's making a joke, of course!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 12:22:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 12:22:00 AM EDT
Thanks for your fab recap, Jardinera! You made the most out of this drippy episode, and brought in your wonderful sense of humor.
I too wonder what douchebaggery Santos has in mind with dragging Elvira to Maria's window! Hey, Jorge Alfredo! You aren't Rogelio! (The character that Mr. Salins previously played, in LQNPA.) We don't want a repeat of that kind of crap! SNAP OUT OF IT!!!! (I would give him a Cher-type slap from "Moonstruck.")
Something will have to transpire to snatch him from the jaws of douchebaggery, because it will not do for him to hook up with Elvira. Even if he is in a drunken stupor, it still won't do. I hope he has something up his sleeve. The drunken self-pity is annoying enough, we don't need anything else on top of that!
Looking forward to Monday's episode!
I too wonder what douchebaggery Santos has in mind with dragging Elvira to Maria's window! Hey, Jorge Alfredo! You aren't Rogelio! (The character that Mr. Salins previously played, in LQNPA.) We don't want a repeat of that kind of crap! SNAP OUT OF IT!!!! (I would give him a Cher-type slap from "Moonstruck.")
Something will have to transpire to snatch him from the jaws of douchebaggery, because it will not do for him to hook up with Elvira. Even if he is in a drunken stupor, it still won't do. I hope he has something up his sleeve. The drunken self-pity is annoying enough, we don't need anything else on top of that!
Looking forward to Monday's episode!
As I recall Rogelio didn't crawl into the bottle for long, but his cruelty was intense and based on a possibly deeper depression.
Justo needs to come to the rescue here. Fernando probably won't give up; his anger in this episode was an expression of frustration.
When Elvira finds out that Maria is pregnant she will just laugh at her for being stupidly careless and ruining her figure. She will see this as something that will work in her own favor because she can't see other people being less selfish than herself.
Justo needs to come to the rescue here. Fernando probably won't give up; his anger in this episode was an expression of frustration.
When Elvira finds out that Maria is pregnant she will just laugh at her for being stupidly careless and ruining her figure. She will see this as something that will work in her own favor because she can't see other people being less selfish than herself.
Wow! Nice to see there are still some viewers for this one, LOL!
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I was hoping for another femme fatale as bait, but I guess we're stuck with La Trampira de Vampira. These gals are all supposed to be in their early twenties, right? Why do I feel like I'm watching some cartoonish version of Orange Co meets 90210 in the barrio? Oh, that's right, it's a Mejia Family production......
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I was hoping for another femme fatale as bait, but I guess we're stuck with La Trampira de Vampira. These gals are all supposed to be in their early twenties, right? Why do I feel like I'm watching some cartoonish version of Orange Co meets 90210 in the barrio? Oh, that's right, it's a Mejia Family production......
Anita: I especially got a kick out of your #8. "Ruben loses his strip joint, his wealth, house, family and starts singing mariachi in el Bar de Olvido." Personally I would like to see Fabian do a bit of payback in the basement and let them hang him like they did with JAntos.
Actually, he needs to be frogmarched away in front of the entire audience and the full group of Mariachis at Concho's bar for attempted murder and kidnapping and maybe a bit of money laundering himself.....
Actually, he needs to be frogmarched away in front of the entire audience and the full group of Mariachis at Concho's bar for attempted murder and kidnapping and maybe a bit of money laundering himself.....
Since Ruben has talked about "merchandise" he has to be talking about drugs or human trafficking. Either of these two would make him the lowest of the low. He'll do the perp walk before this series is over.
He's about due to find out that Maria is pregnant, but I hope it's not before she and Santos reconcile. He is just insane enough to kidnap her while she is pregnant, keep her somewhere until the baby is born, then dispose of the baby.
For all of Oscar's jerkwad behaviour to date he would never do anything like this. The only thing he has in common with Ruben is the idea that he has any rights over Maria, which Santos at least told him off about.
This whole idea of women as property makes my blood boil.
He's about due to find out that Maria is pregnant, but I hope it's not before she and Santos reconcile. He is just insane enough to kidnap her while she is pregnant, keep her somewhere until the baby is born, then dispose of the baby.
For all of Oscar's jerkwad behaviour to date he would never do anything like this. The only thing he has in common with Ruben is the idea that he has any rights over Maria, which Santos at least told him off about.
This whole idea of women as property makes my blood boil.
I keep thinking that when since we know it will happen, Santos and Maria marry the long run they won't be happy. Santos is a sophisticated, travelled, well educated man and a successful businessman. For all her so called smarts next to him Maria is a country bumpkin. I had thought she would move into his world but now fear he will move down into hers and end up in the barrio with a mariachi bar. That won't be enough of challenge for the man he is and on top of it he will have to cope with a mother in law who detests him. It is totally unreal to me to think that Amelia is going to do some miraculous turnaround once the whole story comes out. She is too far along in her dislike and resentment that Santos maybe be taking her virgincita away from her and Santos would be a fool to accept it.
Other than music Maria and Santos really have nothing in common. While hot sex may tide them over for a while it isn't enough for a lifetime. With Maia it is all her way or she bails. It isn't realistic to think that Santos make all the concessions which he seems to be doing at this point. Maria needs to break the stranglehold Amelia has on her otherwise I can see being another version of her mother huddling around with her children as a unit and Santos as not uch more than sperm donor.
Other than music Maria and Santos really have nothing in common. While hot sex may tide them over for a while it isn't enough for a lifetime. With Maia it is all her way or she bails. It isn't realistic to think that Santos make all the concessions which he seems to be doing at this point. Maria needs to break the stranglehold Amelia has on her otherwise I can see being another version of her mother huddling around with her children as a unit and Santos as not uch more than sperm donor.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 12:51:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 12:51:00 PM EDT
Jardinera- Those of us who are not watching this are reading the great recaps you and the rest of the recapping team are doing. Many thanks.
Although I've only been reading about Amalia's smothering and objection to Santos, I am sure she will accept and embrace him by the end. Every tn has them, and they all come around to varying degrees, although some have to lose a loved one, and even their own lives to make it happen. The mother in Mi Pecado took the most drastic measures-- first giving her daughter her blessing, but then killing herself because she knew she could never be a good/supportive mother, suergra and abuela.
Although I've only been reading about Amalia's smothering and objection to Santos, I am sure she will accept and embrace him by the end. Every tn has them, and they all come around to varying degrees, although some have to lose a loved one, and even their own lives to make it happen. The mother in Mi Pecado took the most drastic measures-- first giving her daughter her blessing, but then killing herself because she knew she could never be a good/supportive mother, suergra and abuela.
Vivi
Amelia probably will turn around cause that's what they do in Novelaland but she is incredibly annoying. Unlike the more lethal mothers like Bernarda and Guerra, Amelia is passive aggressive. She completely dotes on Maria and to a much lesser extent her other children. She disliked Santos from the moment she saw him and I'm pretty sure that at this point she hates him. After all thanks to him her saintly duaghter will never wear a white wedding dress as she reminded her the other day.
He represents everything she is afraid of, he is going to take her child away from her and she thinks out of the barrio and their live of poverty. She is consistently rude to him but somehow never seems to object when he bails her and her family out of debt which puts him at risk. She alternated between telling Maria he was sneaky and a liar and then saying she supported their grand love all the while making it clear she was just going along with it, she didn't mean it.
She tips her hand when she says she and her girls are a unit, implying that no one else is welcome in their circle. To outsiders she is the perfect loving mother but they never see her iron control off her daughter's life.
I don't usually hope that characters die in a TN other than the real rotters like, OJ, and Ruben in this story but Amelia could die and I wouldn't shed a tear although Maria would weep enough to fill the Rio Grande.
Amelia probably will turn around cause that's what they do in Novelaland but she is incredibly annoying. Unlike the more lethal mothers like Bernarda and Guerra, Amelia is passive aggressive. She completely dotes on Maria and to a much lesser extent her other children. She disliked Santos from the moment she saw him and I'm pretty sure that at this point she hates him. After all thanks to him her saintly duaghter will never wear a white wedding dress as she reminded her the other day.
He represents everything she is afraid of, he is going to take her child away from her and she thinks out of the barrio and their live of poverty. She is consistently rude to him but somehow never seems to object when he bails her and her family out of debt which puts him at risk. She alternated between telling Maria he was sneaky and a liar and then saying she supported their grand love all the while making it clear she was just going along with it, she didn't mean it.
She tips her hand when she says she and her girls are a unit, implying that no one else is welcome in their circle. To outsiders she is the perfect loving mother but they never see her iron control off her daughter's life.
I don't usually hope that characters die in a TN other than the real rotters like, OJ, and Ruben in this story but Amelia could die and I wouldn't shed a tear although Maria would weep enough to fill the Rio Grande.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 2:47:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 2:47:00 PM EDT
Enough with the drunken crying and the fist fights on all fronts. It's been going on for too many episodes. No wonder viewers are dropping like flies (me included)!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 2:56:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 2:56:00 PM EDT
I call Amalia and Maria "the Dipshits." They're really getting on my nerves.
I agree that Amalia will see the light at the end and be a good mother-in-law. She's not evil, just INCREDIBLY annoying. And extremely ungrateful. But I think Viewerville is supposed to see her as a "good" person, so that means mandatory peace and harmony at the end. (Unless the story takes some unexpected turns!)
UA, agreed, Santos isn't battling the same demons as Rogelio (from LQNPA) but I had this bad flashback of Rogelio at his peak of douchiness when I saw Santos playing up to Elvira. OH NOOOOOO is what I thought. Then I thought, "No, Santos is a good guy, albeit sloppy drunk and annoyingly self-pitying. I will reserve judgment." I don't see him doing something deliberately spiteful, the way Rogelio did. Maybe some childish lashing out, but I hope not even that. If he does anything like that, that will happen is that he will P-R-O-L-O-N-G the agony and suffering, as Maria and Amalia will take that much longer to "forgive." UGH! Please, not that!
I agree that Amalia will see the light at the end and be a good mother-in-law. She's not evil, just INCREDIBLY annoying. And extremely ungrateful. But I think Viewerville is supposed to see her as a "good" person, so that means mandatory peace and harmony at the end. (Unless the story takes some unexpected turns!)
UA, agreed, Santos isn't battling the same demons as Rogelio (from LQNPA) but I had this bad flashback of Rogelio at his peak of douchiness when I saw Santos playing up to Elvira. OH NOOOOOO is what I thought. Then I thought, "No, Santos is a good guy, albeit sloppy drunk and annoyingly self-pitying. I will reserve judgment." I don't see him doing something deliberately spiteful, the way Rogelio did. Maybe some childish lashing out, but I hope not even that. If he does anything like that, that will happen is that he will P-R-O-L-O-N-G the agony and suffering, as Maria and Amalia will take that much longer to "forgive." UGH! Please, not that!
Frankly I think the only way Amelia will do a 180 and become a caring mother in law is that she is being played by Angelica Maria and the producers and writers would never let her end up alone and bitter at the end. She is saddled as the typecast beloved mother.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 3:44:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 3:44:00 PM EDT
Thanks Jardinera!
I just had time to watch the episode and read your wonderful recap.
I'm totally fed up with the whole situation, Amalia & Mancia's controlling and JAntos crying into the bottle in between two fist fights.
As for the Elvira thing somehow it is understandable for me that he wants to get even with Maria and rub it in after she refused to listen to his explanations many times and blaming him not tellling her the truth even though she shushed him up!
Jantos is a good guy, agreed, but maybe one too many rejection from Maria was the last straw that broke the camel's back..
He'll surely clears things up later on, but for now I want him to be a little mean, and put her on her place even if just for a little while, she deserves it.
I just had time to watch the episode and read your wonderful recap.
I'm totally fed up with the whole situation, Amalia & Mancia's controlling and JAntos crying into the bottle in between two fist fights.
As for the Elvira thing somehow it is understandable for me that he wants to get even with Maria and rub it in after she refused to listen to his explanations many times and blaming him not tellling her the truth even though she shushed him up!
Jantos is a good guy, agreed, but maybe one too many rejection from Maria was the last straw that broke the camel's back..
He'll surely clears things up later on, but for now I want him to be a little mean, and put her on her place even if just for a little while, she deserves it.
AS for Maria coming from the barrio, she supposedly does have hopes of self-improvement once she gets her law degree. If she does, Santos and his pappy can open lots of doors for her and her sisters can then go on to "higher learning" as well.... She may think small for now, but if she can break out of the barrio then all bets are off. Amalia won't stay in the barrio if she needs medical attention and Santos and Maria can offer it, I bet.
As for Santos staying with music, he just well might as a second career, financed by his rich pappy. Hell, the guy's already a millionaire and doesn't have to work if he doesn't want to--except to pay off those expensive legal defense fees. Of course, Santos could hire a P.R. firm to put a Santos MdlaG Defense Fund site up and all dummies who choose to can donate.....
As for Santos staying with music, he just well might as a second career, financed by his rich pappy. Hell, the guy's already a millionaire and doesn't have to work if he doesn't want to--except to pay off those expensive legal defense fees. Of course, Santos could hire a P.R. firm to put a Santos MdlaG Defense Fund site up and all dummies who choose to can donate.....
I can understand "mean" or "petty". I want him to make Maria jealous enough to react and come back to him so we can race ahead to the stupid boda and be done with it already. However, Elvirus isn't exactly the lovely lady I would have chosen, but maybe that's cuz I'm not a man and don't have two heads to think with.....
Santos said he has ''Mariachi blood'' in his veins and that's not true. Didn't he started impersonating one to save his life? Imagine Eva saying ''yes, I am a real woman''! BS!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 4:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 4:17:00 PM EDT
Santos did say his grandmother had taught him his mariachi music so maybe he does have an emotional tie to the music. Santos has talent, drive and his own money and can give Maria and her family a much better life. I do think that while Maria was going to school to better herself her hope was that she could make enough money that they wouldn't always be living hand to fist. I don't think her dreams were much more and Mommy is fearful of leaving her comfort zone.
I too think Maria needs a wake up call. Either she wants JAntos or she doesn't she can't have it both ways. I'm not crazy about him using Trampira to make Maria jealous, it's so high schooly and somehow I think the coming episode will force Maria to either fight for what she wants or ee him walk make that stsagger off with her imagined rival. If Maria wants to wallow around in self pity let their be a real reason for it, not the he lied to me about his name wah wah wah.
I too think Maria needs a wake up call. Either she wants JAntos or she doesn't she can't have it both ways. I'm not crazy about him using Trampira to make Maria jealous, it's so high schooly and somehow I think the coming episode will force Maria to either fight for what she wants or ee him walk make that stsagger off with her imagined rival. If Maria wants to wallow around in self pity let their be a real reason for it, not the he lied to me about his name wah wah wah.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 4:56:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 4:56:00 PM EDT
What Elvira doesn't want to realize is that Santos would never play up to her if he were sober. No matter how angry he is with Maria he would never look at Elvira twice without all that cheap tequila.
Once Santos clears his name and a forensic computer expert finds the money Giuliano has been embezzling from the car business he can hire someone reliable to run it and live well off the profits. He can spend his time singing and doing good deeds as he wishes.
As to whom Maria fits with -- or doesn't -- Santos is a far better fit for her than Oscar who actually is a country bumpkin. He even admits it himself. The sad thing is that Oscar almost seems proud of that. Since Maria wants to upgrade herself I fail to see how Amalia thinks Oscar is a better choice for her as a life partner. If Maria finishes law school she would be leaving Oscar in the dust in terms of education. Even now she still has better manners than he does.
Once Santos clears his name and a forensic computer expert finds the money Giuliano has been embezzling from the car business he can hire someone reliable to run it and live well off the profits. He can spend his time singing and doing good deeds as he wishes.
As to whom Maria fits with -- or doesn't -- Santos is a far better fit for her than Oscar who actually is a country bumpkin. He even admits it himself. The sad thing is that Oscar almost seems proud of that. Since Maria wants to upgrade herself I fail to see how Amalia thinks Oscar is a better choice for her as a life partner. If Maria finishes law school she would be leaving Oscar in the dust in terms of education. Even now she still has better manners than he does.
I think Amelia thinks Oscar is a better choice because he is one of them and Santos clearly isn't. She fears anything outside her carefully constructed little world. In addition she has known Oscar for years and can clearly order him around something she won't be able to do with Santos.
Laughing about the comment that Oscar is a country bumpkin and has no manners. It drives me up the wall that he never takes off his hat when he is inside. It is absolutely the height of bad manners not to remove your hat in the presence of women and he never takes his off even inside his own house. You'd think he had a giant bald spot he was trying to hide.
Laughing about the comment that Oscar is a country bumpkin and has no manners. It drives me up the wall that he never takes off his hat when he is inside. It is absolutely the height of bad manners not to remove your hat in the presence of women and he never takes his off even inside his own house. You'd think he had a giant bald spot he was trying to hide.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 7:55:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, July 7, 2013 at 7:55:00 PM EDT
That hat has got to go. It's ugly and Oscar should know better. You'd think a guy that good-looking would know how to dress after living in D.F. for as long as he has.
Unless the trajes de charro take up his entire clothing budget.
Tomorrow's episode will be something else, I'm sure.
Unless the trajes de charro take up his entire clothing budget.
Tomorrow's episode will be something else, I'm sure.
Jardinera:
Thanks for this as always, fun marvelous recap! I am like Vivi I lurk and read the recaps and I want to thank all the other recappers for these great recaps!
For me this TN is like watching a train wreck where you know what is coming, but you just can't look away. Personally, I think Meija is an evil genius, he always finds the most inventive ways of keeping the main couple apart, while really boosting the secondary love interests, like Susanito and Irasema. I know it's irritating, but it's a hoot to figure out what he'll come up with next ; )
I too am sick of Amalia, Mancia and especially Maria and Santos. All this whining and crying! I am like Elvira, I want to slap them all and tell them to snap out of it!!!! And Santos and Elivirus, see what I said about Meija above! I really want more movement on the bar owner story. I want Amalia to find out she owns half that bar, and then maybe she can stop trying to run Maria's life and concentrate on the bar, one can hope : )
Thanks for this as always, fun marvelous recap! I am like Vivi I lurk and read the recaps and I want to thank all the other recappers for these great recaps!
For me this TN is like watching a train wreck where you know what is coming, but you just can't look away. Personally, I think Meija is an evil genius, he always finds the most inventive ways of keeping the main couple apart, while really boosting the secondary love interests, like Susanito and Irasema. I know it's irritating, but it's a hoot to figure out what he'll come up with next ; )
I too am sick of Amalia, Mancia and especially Maria and Santos. All this whining and crying! I am like Elvira, I want to slap them all and tell them to snap out of it!!!! And Santos and Elivirus, see what I said about Meija above! I really want more movement on the bar owner story. I want Amalia to find out she owns half that bar, and then maybe she can stop trying to run Maria's life and concentrate on the bar, one can hope : )
Jardinera - Thanks for the zing you brought to the storytelling. Enjoyed it.
Not liking Santos at all right now. I can understand him being pithed/depressed, but bringing Elvirus outside the home of his impregnated love, where she lives with her younger impressionable sisters, is soooo tacky. I agree with others who commented that with Santos’ upbringing he should be handling this situation better. At least Maria can blame her behavior on lack of experience.
Not liking Santos at all right now. I can understand him being pithed/depressed, but bringing Elvirus outside the home of his impregnated love, where she lives with her younger impressionable sisters, is soooo tacky. I agree with others who commented that with Santos’ upbringing he should be handling this situation better. At least Maria can blame her behavior on lack of experience.
One of my pet peeves with most novelas is how stupid they make the female characters look. Maria refuses to see that she kept Santos from telling her the truth. Then when Roddy gives her the torn letter it never occurs to her that Santos had to have written it before he left for LA if not long before that. She didn't even react when he said he was a millionaire. I don't think that was ever mentioned in the big reveal that he was on the run. She seems completely unable to put two and two together.
Since we are now over the halfway point we should begin to see more action on the secondary story lines, Isa's adoption, OJ, Fabnot and Ruben plotting scheming and getting their just rewards — a bullet and a bed with the fishes, Concho finding out he has been scammed, Amelia finding out she owns part of the bar, Justo getting justice for Santos who alas is too busy living in Mopesville to do it himself, Elvira being found out as a thief, Mirna being found out as a cheat-although that one i don't care about, Gloria returning and getting Roddy away from Oscar and his bad influence although to be fair the kid is already smarter than his pop when it comes to how to treat women oh and Vanessa and the Mean Girls getting found out and bounced from the school.
Since we are now over the halfway point we should begin to see more action on the secondary story lines, Isa's adoption, OJ, Fabnot and Ruben plotting scheming and getting their just rewards — a bullet and a bed with the fishes, Concho finding out he has been scammed, Amelia finding out she owns part of the bar, Justo getting justice for Santos who alas is too busy living in Mopesville to do it himself, Elvira being found out as a thief, Mirna being found out as a cheat-although that one i don't care about, Gloria returning and getting Roddy away from Oscar and his bad influence although to be fair the kid is already smarter than his pop when it comes to how to treat women oh and Vanessa and the Mean Girls getting found out and bounced from the school.
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 8, 2013 at 1:16:00 PM EDT
: Monday, July 8, 2013 at 1:16:00 PM EDT
I hope Fernando calls Justo ASAP and tells him to get there quickly. Santos is destroying himself and Maria is not seeing reason.
Unfortunately, this is not going to help Amalia's attitude.
Unfortunately, this is not going to help Amalia's attitude.
Can't help wondering where Elvirus thinks her big hook up with JAntos is going to take place. He no longer lives in the Maria decorated room and his current rat infested digs don't even have a mattress. Far as we know she doesn't know that he has big bucks back in LA.
Agree that Fernando has to call Justo because not only is Santos wallowing in self pity he isn't paying attention to his own safety and could be at risk again. Han't the week the GF gave OJ just about come to an end?
Funny how we thought Justo and Wendy were heading to Mexico but it looks like they haven't wrapped things up in LA yet.
Agree that Fernando has to call Justo because not only is Santos wallowing in self pity he isn't paying attention to his own safety and could be at risk again. Han't the week the GF gave OJ just about come to an end?
Funny how we thought Justo and Wendy were heading to Mexico but it looks like they haven't wrapped things up in LA yet.
Permalink posted by : Monday, July 8, 2013 at 2:51:00 PM EDT
: Monday, July 8, 2013 at 2:51:00 PM EDT
People like Elvira are the reason I cringe whenever I hear someone address his/her child as "mi reina" or anything similar. She has a massive sense of entitlement that nothing will be able to get rid of it.
No, she doesn't know about his bank account yet and the longer she doesn't find out the better.
No, she doesn't know about his bank account yet and the longer she doesn't find out the better.
UA--I have never figured out why Elvira is so hung up on Santos, especially if she still thinks he's poor. At least Coloso still has a decent career, a bit of surplus money (to pay hospital bills with) and they have hot sex together. Santos is an unknown in that department, it might only be cool, romantic sex.
OTOH, if 'everyone' knows about the delinquente from El Lay, they also know he was a milionario, Elvira included.
OTOH, if 'everyone' knows about the delinquente from El Lay, they also know he was a milionario, Elvira included.
Anita, it's all about her past differences with Maria and has nothing to do with either of those guys. Both of their value to Elvira are that they are in love with Maria. This was mentioned in an episode you might have missed.
I thought it was more a matter of "forbidden fruit" since Lourdes had nixed her going after Santos when she found out he was poor. My comment had more tongue in cheek than a real question.
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