Caray, Caray!

Excellent, Paquita, and thanks for posting it so early.

Amalia is so stupid. Ruben has snowed her all over again after she had called him out on his obsession. He's clever and knows which buttons to push to manipulate her. She could give Jewish mothers lessons on guilt-tripping.

I also agree that she is selfish. She can't handle the idea of losing Maria as her meal ticket or seeing her move up in the world.

She can barely handle the idea of their own financial improvement. While Irasema is booking a padded room for Mancia, she should get one for Amalia; maybe there's a potential discount to be had.

In view of how the injustice system in Mexico has skewed Amalia's thinking she also has her priorities mixed up: If someone is automatically guilty once accused, why isn't she upset over Maria trying to defend Susanito against a murder charge based on no evidence while vilifying Santos over what had been a bloodless crime (again, no real evidence of guilt)?

All because she can't stand the idea that Maria can better herself in this world.

Maria is not the sort of person to abandon her mother and sisters and Amalia is an idiot for thinking so. What does she think would happen if Maria were to be truly stupid and fall for Ruben? Ruben would ship Amalia off somewhere where she would have no contact with his public world so she wouldn't be an embarrassment to him while isolating Maria from her family so she would have nobody to turn to while he tried to control her.

Which assumes that he plans on Maria being a trophy bride rather than potential merchandise in his flesh trade when he's tired of her.

There is still some instinct in Maria that says this guy is off because she did pull away from him in the scene after her disagreement with JA, just like Camila in AB on her wedding day.

As to JA telling her they are finished, I can't blame him. I have been saying for years that there is no way I could stay in a relationship with anyone who called me a loose woman (since I'm female). I guess an accusation of cowardice is the male equivalent.
 

The producer and writers of this TN really hate women, don't they. All the women--from teenagers to adults--are portrayed as weak, naive, stupid, manipulative, indecisive, immature, selfish & self-serving.

So very, very boring.
 

Thanks for all the good work covering this novella.

Our happy couple has hit another iceberg. This time the USS Vargas! Only 48 more breakup's to go. This couple doesn't belong together. Vargas has been in a don't touch my woman rage since he met Maria. Maria and her family have been in a revolving door with the local hospice since Maria met Vargas. Maybe she should become a doctor if she plans to stay with this guy.

No way Callous is going to tote his rooster to Nuevo Leon...what about how much he luvvvs Maria?

Should have borrowed Stephen King's Misery title for this one.
 

Paquita and QBA recapping team-- I just wanted to say thank you for the wonderful recaps you ladies continue to put out. After the two episodes I watched when Justo came to town, I stopped watching again. But I always read your recaps. I am in awe that you continue to give so much care and detail to these recaps, while the writers of this tn have not seen fit to do the same with the script.

I really can't believe that this late in the game, the thing separating Maria and Santos is a lack of trust in each other. I wouldn't mind if the thing separating them was something out of their control (like a wife returned from the dead), but this is just silly, and really doesn't speak well for the kind of marriage they'll eventually have.

Why is Maria relying on Ruben to give her updates on Santos' case? Shouldn't keeping up on Santos' and researching it be one of her top priorities? Shouldn't she be getting updates from Justo and trying to see what she can do to help free the man she loves from this mess? Why the heck should he be doing all this work to secure her financial well-being with the bar, when she's not lifting a finger to help him?
 

On the face of it Maria choosing to concentrate on Susanito's case right now is the right choice because time is of the essence. Amalia decided not to have Concho arrested after he offered to make restitution and I think he's sincere about it.

The one obstacle to resolving the JNTR situation is Elvira and Concho is still in denial about that. He doesn't know all of her shenanigans and neither does Lourdes. Now that Elvira is only entitled to a 25% interest she will get meaner, play dirtier, and cross over to the wrong side of the law.

Is it too early for the Karmageddon discussion? If not I'll write up the lead post later and post it tomorrow.
 

Amalia's whole argument against Santos to Maria wasn't about Maria, it was about HER. That's where Maria gets it from.

I'm glad Santos left Maria crying in the street. A dangerous dynamic (IMO) has been formed in their relationship where Santos does something Maria doesn't approve of, Maria dumps him, Santos begs her for forgiveness, then Maria takes him back. Maria knew that Santos would beg her again and she'd take him back but he flipped the tables on her and it's HIM that's walking away. Good for him.

I understand she doesn't like violence but one of the times he got violent was because the frat boy offered to pay her for sex in front of the whole bar* and this last time with Ruben was because Ruben was trying to molest her while she was unconcious. We still don't know what happened b/w Maria & Ruben from the time he took her from the courtroom until the time he brought her to her apartment. If Jorge Alfredo can't fight for her then, then when?

Justo needs to punish Wendy by giving her the boot and letting her make her own way. The only reason she's on the level she's on is because of HIM. Even Santos made his own money.

Actually, the female character I'm liking the most nowadays is Lourdes, Concho's wife. Lourdes is greedy & snobby but she seems to have a decent character...more decent than I would've expected.

Pablo Montero got suspended during the making of this novela, so this "Coloso leaves town *snif* storyline" is probably when he got suspended.

I think Irasema also got suspended during the making of this show, and I wonder if the 'Fabian kidnaps Irasema' storyline was when she was off the set.

*If some guy offered to pay me for sex in front of my boyfriend and he didn't do anything & just stood there, then he's worthless to me.
 

I agree. I don't like violence any more than Maria does but any man who would allow that to happen would not be worth my time.

Since there is no scene of what happened at the clinic or hospital, we can assume that he just took her to an emergency room, they did the usual tests that are warranted for this situation, then said she was alright and it was probably emotional. Maybe also that she should eat something ASAP.

This does not jive with the Maria who fought the young thug with the knife outside the bar. I want her back.

Totally agree about Wendy. She needs to have the gravy train stopped and sent out to work. Of course, since she's pregnant that will not happen.
 

Hoo Rah at last JAntos grew a pair and told Maria we're done. She has deserved it for some time with her touch me, touch me not attitude. It's good to see her get a taste of her own medicine. I can't imagine any man tolerating the woman he loves calling him a coward and an animal but for a Latin man that had to be the kiss of death. I loved the Rogelio stare he gave her before walking off.

Good thing he did it because at that point i was ready to kill Amelia. This witch has constantly babbled on about how her poor Maria had to give up her youth to support the family and now she's telling her forget the guy you love and the life you might have and think of ME and your sisters. So unreal I wish they would just kill her off now and be done with it and the endless torture she will inflict of Santos for the rest of his life with her nina. Ya Basta

Rube can't get any oilier. I'm surprised he doesn't leave little piles of grease everywhere he goes. He is a quick thinker I'll give him that, offering to "help" the Mendoza's with the bar and getting what is theirs. Awfully nice of him since he tried to steal it. I wonder if JAntos will find any evidence of that dirty trick not that the Mendoza Morons would believe him. Notice how fast Rub threw his new associate Elvirus under the bus.

I'm not a particular fan of Pablo Montoya and his Coloso character but I did feel slightly sorry for him with his farewell walk. He is one of those types who cut off his nose to spite his face. He treated JAntos like crap from day one and is too stiff necked to admit he was wrong and so had no choice but to quit his job and go back to Monterrey.

Gloria wasn't angry with JAntos when she went to the bar, she was more upset with the fact that Coloso had quit when he had promised to get her a job. His actions just showed her once again that he is unreliable. I'm glad that JAntos who really thinks like a business man recognized what a good thing it would be to have a good cook providing food in the bar.

Wendy, Wendy Wendy get over yourself. Justo is losing patience with her and her jealous ways. She was marginally correct that Maria was very poor because neither she nor Justo know that the Mendoza's now have some wealth although to be honest I don't know how much money they can really get from a bar.
 

Well, apparently JNTR was doing well enough that Lourdes & Elvira were living in the lap of luxury, with Concho pulling out wads of cash to give to Elvira to go shopping for fancy shoes & clothes with. And I think Elvira also had a luxury car. So if JNTR was doing that well, and the Mendozas had their share they wouldn't be living in that small little apartment.

I don't feel sorry for Coloso. Nobody told him to quit. He certainly wasn't fired so all of that slow walking, sad looking, hat tipping and looking forlorn on the goodbye tour is all on him.
 

Anon 207

Coloso just proved again how unreliable he is. He knows he has a teenage son whose mother just finished battling cancer and now hasn't got two pesos to rub together so what does he do. Takes a hike to drown in self pity over having lost his chiquita, who he never had, and now his job and most of his friends are moving on and finally growing up. It never occurred to him to think how he leaving his son in the lurch although to be fair he at least had the decency to call and tell him goodbye instead of slinking off in the dark.

You are right about how Lourdes and Elvirus were living high off the hog but I suspect that some of that money was Lourdes not just profits from the bar. Concho did seem to have a lot of cash but now things would be split 50 so nobody is going to be living in lap of luxury but the Mendoza's should move up to a better home. Then again Amelia would prefer to be a martyr and live in genteel poverty while meddling in the lives of her children.
 

So much going on in this episode. Paquita--kudos to being able to keep up and keep it and us all straight.

To give JAntos the benefit of the doubt, he DID admit to Maria that he'd given Ruben a justified beating, but she wouldn't give him a chance to finish his explanation that Rube wasn't *that* badly beaten when he left him. He even tried to get Rube to admit it. Maria believing him. Score One for Rube.

Also, when he was trying to tell Maria how Rube was taking advantage of her when she was unconscious, she declared quite forcefully that Rube would *never* do that. Maria believing him. Score Two for Rube.

Amalia and Maria believing all the warnings of this violent fugitive from justice. Score Three for Rube.

Amalia and Maria believing that he had their best interests in mind and would represent their interests in the bar. Score Four for Rube.

Then there was Concho telling JA (but I don't think JA realized who it was) that he *had* someone to help them out of the mess. Boy will Jorge Alfredo be surprised when it turns out to be Rube. Score Four and Half for Rube--JA gets a Half a point for being appointed administrator.

Still don't understand why it was Maria and Ruben defending Susanito. Regardless of the time Maria spent poring over the crime scene pictures, 1) she'd never tried a case before; 2) she's not a seasoned criminal attorney; and 3) this was a capital crime.

Granted they had to scrape together the money for transcripts, documents and filing fees and probably not enough for a lawyer, Santos would surely ask his father for enough to find Susie a decent criminal lawyer.

On the avances for last night's show, I heard Jorge Alfredo telling Maria, "Lo nuestro se acabo." I was listening for those exact words and didn't hear them. Did any one else hear him say that before he walked away with a Que te Vaya Bonito?

Contrasting Maria with Marina (LT, although early days) I think the protagonista in QBA was chosen for her ability to get really angry on cue, spit the words out like bullets of venom, furrow her brow and turn on the waterworks as though Lamentation was her middle name. I like a dry-eyed, not necessarily happy protagonista, which is seldom, I know (Silvia N. is the perfect example). Marina gives me hope.

To follow through with Anon@9:10. You hit the nail on the head. And we thought Maria was feisty, strong and bold at the beginning. Of course, at the beginning she was fighting off suitors right and left and had never fallen in love. Jorge Alfredo made her vulnerable.

ITA that this off and on relationship, with rejection and reconciliation--hurting each other while declaring undying love in the process--is *not* a healthy one. They are establishing a pattern for the future if they stay together.

I wouldn't be unhappy if they go their separate ways at the end of this tn. And when have I ever felt that way before....hmmm. Never?
 

I also don't want Maria and JA to end up together. As quick-tempered and jealous as he is, he still deserves someone better than her. She should end up with Amalia for the rest of her life, or with Ruben. Even horrible Coloso is too good for her. Santos deserves someone totally different who really loves him. Too bad that won't happen, though.

UGH! Three tries with the robot words! Almost enough to discourage one from posting.
 

Anita

I think the hot tempter and jealousy is out of character for Santos. There was never any indication of temper in the beginning but once he went on the run and lost control of his life he took oput his frustrations in anger. The jealousy is a new thing for him and it's spurred on by both Ruben and Coloso's actions and by Maria's apparently unwillingness to tell both men to back off and mean it. Once the current situations resolve themselves is is more likely that JAntos will end up a rationa,l sane businessman like Justo. That of course depends on wether Maria can grow up and stop acting like a spoiled immature brat. If things don't go her way she whines, throws fits, doesn't listen. She has a boatload of growing up to do

As for wishing them not to end up I remember once in a novela some years back wishing the girl would chose the other guy not the lead. Jorge Aravena was the galan and Jose Luis Pila the good guy second man. The first guy was a jerk, the second kind and caring so of course she chose the jerk. Almost all of us thought she was nuts. Since there really is no viable other woman for Santos alas it won't happen here.

There is no denying that last night Maria really crossed the line.I found it interesting that she stood up to Amelia and Ruben about defending her love for JAntos when he wasn't there but she never recognized the damage she had done She actually thought a few my loves and I'm sorry would be enough. Not sure I actually heard the "Lo nuestro se acabo" but definitely got the feeling he was telling her we're done. Thankfully as it was the last line in the episode we should get it tonight.

The only bad thing is Maria will fall into crying mode, catch JAntos in a compromising position with Elvirus and feel justified in what she did. Amelia will of course be over the moon with joy.
 

Question, are Telenovela actors be suspended from production? And if so why? The only time I heard of that was with Dos mujeres un camino where our Orange one (Guliano) got fired from the show because instead of going on set he went to a concert and was replaced by
Sergio Sendel, how often does this happen in telenovelas?
 

I would think if they are doing something to cause harm to the production they'd be suspended, like not showing up, showing up late, not knowing their lines, being disruptive on the set.

I read that both Coloso & Irasema had been suspended from this set & wondered how that would be worked into the storylines. I don't know what either one did, though.

Jorge Salinas (Jorge Alfredo/Santos) was deathly ill on his last novela and they wrote it in that he was sick and in the hospital (and he actually filmed scenes like he was in the hospital). He's a trooper.

He also got injured by pouring something into his eye while promoting this show in the US...I wonder if that will be written in as well.
 

Moderator please note this isn't gossip, no names mentioned, just an answer to a question.

ELi

Yet another person who actually remembers the horrible Do Caminos. Worst novela ever made and the longest. LOL

Sure TN actors can be suspended or fired. I think in this case the actor in question was arrested either for drugs or a DUI. Actors that are chronically late, throwing temper tantrums, the aforementioned arrests, not being prepared can and are punished. There are cases where the actors really didn't get along the bigger name tried to get the other fired, clashes between actors and producers usually result in a firing. In QBA there was at least one dispute beween two actors over a prank and in one novela two of the actors reportedly came to blows.

I sometimes think the antics backstage on some novelas might be more intersting then the resulting TN LOL
 

Decie Girl-

Of course I remember that telenovela, I was like 8 and it might have ended when I was 11,lol
I always felt so bad for Tania, why did she have to die when her boyfrind was a rat bastard? Ugh, thinking about it still makes me angry!
 

Decie--I can see you are a big JAntos defender. Don't get me wrong, I am, too, but he and Maria don't mix very harmoniously right now. She's not entirely at fault.

Santos had never been in a serious relationship either until Maria (or so he said), so I would say he needs to figure out how trust, loyalty and love fit into a lovers' equation. And also, his only "bro" for advice is Mil Amores, who also has never "settled down."

No question Ruben and Coloso have been provoking him and Maria's reluctance to tell them to back off just inflames his feelings. She, OTOH, she sees nothing wrong (now) in her "business" relationship with Ruben and she knew Coloso long before she ever met JA.

Even though she never encouraged Coloso, he's hard headed and always figured he would wear her (or Amalia) down and get Maria for himself. He probably never had a rival until JA came along and that spurred his antagonism.
 

Anita, it occurred to me that defending Susanito is Ruben's best means to keep anyone -- especially Maria -- from finding out that he is the real killer.

This situation is the set-up for Ruben's Last Stand. Maria's need to rescue Susanito will keep her away from JNTR and her absence from there will give Elvirus her opportunity.
 

ANITA I'm not so much big defender of JAntos as I am looking for a rationally explanation for irrational behavior. Maria and JAntos are a bad fit at the moment and I tend to blame most of that on her. She runs hot and cold constantly, the push pull dynamic is getting old. I am annoyed however by JAntos' constantly chasing after her and doing all the groveling when in many cases the problem isn't his. Elvirus is going to make a move on him tonight and I can only hope that he rebuffs her before he sees Maria in the room. I simply can't take another mother daughter talk/sob fest.

URBAN I too think Rub is using the "helping" Maria with Susanito is his way of making sure the truth never comes out. He can continue his slimy advice and will learn how Maria is thinking and give himself a chance to sabotage her strategy before she can get Susanito off.

I noticed last night that Dumb and Dumber confronted OJ about the gun again and they both seemed to ignore the Godfather. Surely even cops as stupid as these two would be aware of who the criminal mastermind in their area was.
 

Thank you, Paquito, for another great recap.

The hypocrisy of Wendy accusing Maria of wanting Santos for his money is that she is actually the one who is involved with a man por interés. She is blatantly using Michael, whom she doesn’t love, to give a name to her baby. She hasn’t spent enough time with Maria to know anything about her, other than that she is poor as a church mouse, and even that is now out of date.

I was cheering our boy JA at the end. I am so glad that he finally gave the heave ho to Maria, who does NOT deserve him. She has been almost sadistically abusive towards him, withholding affection as punishment just to see him come crawling back. She needs to learn that love involves respect and trust and listening. And she needs to learn to stop hurling unfair accusations at him every time she gets upset.

Unfortunately, we all know that he will eventually take her back. Before he does, I would like to see JA remind Maria that Ruben had him kidnapped and tried to murder him. I would also like to see JA hold her responsible for letting that creep touch her. Nobody holds my hand, as Rub has repeatedly in the last few epis, or fondles my face, as he was doing when JA was spying on them, without my permission. Nobody. Maria is totally culpable in Ruben’s behavior. However, I loved the death stare JA gave her, and maybe that was just as good.

Maria is incredibly selfish. She does need to learn to think of others, and she does need to learn to think through her decisions more carefully. Amalia is completely correct to point out the long term and familial effects of marrying JA because Maria sure as heck doesn’t have the sense to think of them herself. In that culture, marriage is between families and not just individuals and it is for life, or at least there is no remarriage. Marrying a convict? Under any circumstances? No thank you. Maria is an idiot.

As for Amalia being happy that Maria is crying, when has that EVER happened? She has always been traumatized by Maria’s pain and has said over and over again that she wants Maria to be happy. I thought Maria did realize that she had been out of line to JA and said something about being too hard on him. After the fact. That girl spits out venom at this man she claims to love like she does to no one else. If she would only be that assertive to Coloso or Ruben, she and JA wouldn’t have half of their problems.

As for JA, he is indeed also to blame. He needs to grow up, too. He has been very violent, which is never a good sign in a man, even in a TN ;). If he only went off to defend Maria’s honor, that would be one thing. The problem is that he has fought constantly with Coloso, who has simply baited him for amusement. I would never put up with all the fighting, but then neither would I believe a word out of that Ruben. Neither Maria or Amalia should even be listening to a word that greaseball has to say.

Anita, I totally agree that poor Susano should have qualified legal defense, and not a law school drop out and slimy real estate attorney, neither of whom have any criminal defense experience (that we know of) and one of whom actually committed the crime. However, it is not a capital offence because Mexico does not have the death penalty, something which many Mexicans are very proud of.

 

DCG, I thought the first 'evidence' that Dumb and Dumber had against Santos was that fake photo of him with the Godfather. Now they don't even know who he is.

I think the real Dumb and Dumber team may be the writers of this unfortunate TN.
 

Was this series extended because the next one wasn't ready yet? If so that could be part of the explanation for some of the inconsistencies.

Or they don't plan well.

Carolina, we've seen Maria tell Oscar she will never love him the way he wants her to. More than once. It has not stopped him. It would not stop Ruben. My gut is telling me that he will try to kill her before this is all over.
 

UA, yes, it is true that she has told both of them to back off, but not effectively. Big diff. One needs to do that before an obsession develops and in this case, that would have been before the first episode of this tn. She has NEVER let either of them have it in the way she tells off JA. That is my point.

I don't see women as hapless victims of crazy men. Women like Maria set themselves up for guys that are crazy and violent to get crazy and violent ideas about her.
 

Carolina--I meant capital offense figuratively--murder would be #1 of the top 10 list of bad crimes. Killing someone, depending on circumstances (from hit-and-run to premeditated murder) has the possibility of life in prison.

UA--I overlooked Ruben's real reason to stay on the case. He seems to have gotten his wish.

Oh, and the Dumb and Dumber. This was the dumbest move. They show up at a restaurant to taunt OJ? Why didn't they bring him in to the station and request fingerprints from him. This gives him time to have surgery done on his fingertips.

I don't think it was The Padrino that was in the photo. It was someone else, a capataz or someone the Padrino felt was too close to him and made OJ fix it (can't remember how that went).
 

I can't explain Oscar, but we can hold Concho responsible for some of Maria's inability to quash Ruben's advances. He was virtually pimping her out to Ruben since prior to the opening episode. Who the hell knows for how long.

If this has been going on since Maria was menor de edad Concho is a worse person than I thought and the mariachi frat boys all fell down on the job.

Amalia was no help there.

Finally, a man comes along who is willing and able to protect Maria. Growing up in an all-female household she has no clue how to react to this. Never having been in love before, his feelings are out of control.

I completely agree that JA should never have been taking the bait from Oscar and fighting with him all the time. However, he also needs to be more cool-headed when dealing with Ruben. Especially now that he knows the connexion between Ruben, Giuliano, and the Godfather.

There is no excuse for what the writers did to Maria to turn her into a damsel in distress, because that is where she is headed.
 

Paquita:

Great stuff and liked the hilights since last night was a "bulletpoint special" if anything was. (Maybe Coloso has space in his suitcase and can squeeze me in along with you! LOLOL!)

ITA that Maria's always taking anybody but JAntos's side and it's gettin' old. Finally he grew a spine and gave her a taste of her own very bitter medicine and told her off. She deserves to suffer for a while cuz she's so prim and proper it's like she pacifist to the nth degree and she always sees herself as Ms. Perfect. I guess she takes after Mama that way!

Thanks again!
 

Amelia won't be happy that Maria is miserable and suffering and crying — again. But I don't think we can deny that she will be very happy that JAntos is out of her life. That has been her aim from the start even before she knew anything about him. He is a threat to her comfort zone and she can't handle it. I really thought she went too far last night with her telling Maria to think about her and her sisters. All of that argument again goes back to Ruben and his telling her that Maria will be held as an accomplice and not in Mexico. Bang - Amelia's fear that JAntos will take Maria away and so she goes into attack mode.
 

Hmm. When Ruben said that Maria could end up in prison, I thought that was what she was reacting to, not something that hasn't even ever been expressed.

Ditto for her aim. She wants Maria to be happy and safe; that is the only aim she has ever expressed. Maria thinks she will be happy if she marries JA, but she won't be safe, and possibly not happy, as long as he has these unresolved problems. That is Amalia's conundrum.

Maybe you think she would be a better mother if she didn't care if her daughter were happy and safe, or married to a convict, or were in prison herself. But I don't think I am ever going to agree with you on that.
 

Since JA's current presence in Mexico is due to a mistake made by the border guards, is Maria really guilty of anything?

Justo is very much on the ball and will not give up on this. He can cream those stupid cops. Pity he can't control Wendy.
 

Carolina, I don't think Amalia cares about Maria's happiness. More accurately, she isn't even really thinking about it.

Amalia seems to think that the only safety is either the status quo or marriage to Oscar, whom Maria does not love. Amalia knows she doesn't love Oscar, but still kept encouraging him.

Maria would be miserable married to any man she didn't love. She would be better off in a convent because Amalia is smothering her.
 

This has come up before.

No country's laws extend beyond their borders. Nobody who commits a crime in a foreign country can be tried for that crime in this country. You get tried in the country where the crime was committed and whose laws you broke.

If you are in Mexico and you have broken Mexican laws, you get tried by the Mexican justice system, god help you. (The only exception might be a crime committed against an official government representative and within an embassy or something like that.) If the crime is committed in one country and you flee to another, extradition is possible and you can be brought back to the country where the crime occurred to be tried; that's why they can arrest JA in Mexico. But not Maria. She's never even been to the US, so she's never been under the jurisdiction of our laws, and our legal system has no power over her.

What isn't clear to me is if she has broken a Mexican law against being accessory after the fact if the crime wasn't committed in Mexico. However, to be guilty of accessory after the fact, there has to BE, in fact, a crime. So unless JA is found guilty, Maria isn't guilty of anything anywhere, no how, no way.

Ruben is completely blowing smoke in telling the gullible Mendoza women this. Amalia wouldn't be expected to know this and Rub did take her to his office to have that other lawyer feed her this same load of bs. But Maria ought to know better or at least know to verify what Rub tells her.
 

UA, I am aware of what you think of Amalia. However, it does not correspond to what I have seen or heard in the show.

We all have our opinions of the characters. We all view them through the prism of our own experiences. However, a lot of negative things about Amalia have been repeated here as if they were fact, when they never actually happened on the show.



 

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