Caray, Caray!

Gracias, Jardinera.

Derecho and Curtis had the most unromantic wedding I've ever seen for a couple whose two halves apparently are both willing. I hope the writers spared us the wedding night.

I'm guessing that Giuliano is looking to get the $10MM and kill Justo, Wendy, and Maria anyway. Tony Soprano would whack him for that.
 

Thank you so much, Jardinera! I especially liked: "...I needlessly digress". I'm dying laughing!!!

Also ITA with you wrt: "I thought this gal was supposed to be some sort of genius". EVEN BETTER!!!

You make our weekends special!!

Fatima
 

OT, but relevant (at least in my view, LOL!)

Urban, did you have your opera club affair today? Is this why you didn't provide us with another Super Saturday Discussion Topic?

You've spoiled us, Urban. You have spoiled us!!!

Fatima
 

Fatima, I had an event this afternoon with another group. I also had to do some preparation for a potluck I'm attending tomorrow.

I apologise for the lack of a weekend topic today. I'll have one for next weekend.
 

Absolutely NO need to apologize! I've enjoyed every one of your weekend topics. I look forward to the next one. :))

Fatima
 

So with 20 Episodes to go JAntos suddenly morphs into a typical novela galan, in other words he becomes an ass. JAntos had better wise up and stop fighting with Michael. The good doc is respected in prison and liked, Santos is a high profile prisoner and has no allies only people who want to beat him up or better yet kill him. I'm surprised he seems so unconcerned about Wendy and Justo and is wasting his energy on his bonita - a phrase that is getting on my nerves.

Jalisquito is a bad influence on Isa, and it isn't as if she couldn't get into enough trouble by herself. If Fernando wants to think of himself as the kid's father he better take some steps to get him under control — perhaps a few punishments like Isa is earning.

God help us the worst novela wedding ever. I honestly thought Curtis was going to jump Derecho right on the table - ugh. The only good thing I hope is that two ineptos are never seen again. They have two innocent men in prison only one of whom has actually had a trial and a three time killer out wreaking havoc. And, they are busy congratulating themselves on a job well done although Derecho may have a glimmer of doubt.

Not to be picky but where did Santos get that pencil back and paper as well?

OJ deserves to be whacked not only for all his killings but for that snotty stare and that awful spray tan. Reminds me of that hideous Man Tan we all used to try back in the dark ages.

Assron and Vainessa deserve a trip to the principal's office and expulsion. Two bigger brats I haven't seen in years. Considering that they seem to be going to a school located in a low rent district they certainly have an air of entitlement.

Speaking of entitlement I did laugh when Concho was moaning about how they had spoiled Elvirus rotten. He never said a truer thing and even he has no idea how rotten she really is. Question what did Lourdes do with that big sack of Mirna stolen money?


 

Jalisquito just needs to go - period. Now that the Mendozas own part of the bar, they should send their kids (Paloma and Isa) to boarding school and cut out all those unnecessary scenes. Of course they won't, but one can dream.
 

ANON

Amelia would NEVER send Paloma and Isa to boarding school. That would leave her with no one to indoctrinate with her possessive brand of love. Her entire existence revolves around her girls and her being a band of four, now three that stick together no matter what. She would never be able to face the possibility of any of them being far away and that could be only a few miles as far as she is concerned.
 

Decie Girl,
I knew that, that's why I said one can dream. :-) But it's the only way for the writers not to keep assaulting us with the totally boring, not-so-cute and unnecessary scenes that involve Paloma, Rodrigo, Isabel and Jalisquito. ;)
Anon
 

ANON I don't mind Isa but the teens are boring and Jalisquito while talented has an obnoxious personality. I suspect he may be a lot like Coloso was as a kid. I just keep wondering what kind of school hours they have. The teens spend time there but an awful lot away and Isa never seems to be in school and at her age it makes no sense. I guess Amelia's focus is so much on Maria that Isa slips through the cracks which makes her think nobody loves her.

Frankly I could really do with Jen and Bufalo. They have no real ties to any of the other characters and no chemistry between them either. Thank God we should be free of the weird Derecho and the horrifying antics of Curtis. Fingers crossed.
 

Decie Girl, ITA with you. Let's be rid of Curtis and Derecho. Talk about two misplaced characters.

They are not funny. They have never been funny and their stupid antics have never been funny. I guess I just missed the whole point of these characters.

Fatima
 

Fatima

They needed inept cops in LA and thus Dumb and Dumber. She however is one of the worst most annoying novela characters ever and that is saying something. Even the actor playing Derecho looked uncomfortable with her antics at times. I've seen him do some cringe worthy things in the past so I guess he is used to being a fool. I find it particularly jarring since most of the characters seem to be more rooted in reality. We may not like all of them but they could be people you'd meet in the course of your life but the Derechos are not.
 

Roberto Ballesteros (Derecho) has a track record as sleazebag villains or accomplices. Playing comedy might have sounded like a good idea at the time.

I have to wonder at whether some of the writers hate gringos or why would they make us look like such idiots.

As for cops, I'd pray that Sherlock Juarez of AB would get transferred to D.F.

El Jalisquito has a good heart but he does need some rules to be set. Fernando needs to get on the ball about this.
 

Urban Anth

The novela is written for a Mexican audience, most Mexicans don't care to much for Americans including hispanic Americans. Hence... the word "pocho" a passive aggressive term for Mexican Americans who have assimilated into the American way of life.
 

That was pointed out when Oscar first used this word. Little do they realize that "assimilation" is largely a myth for most immigrants.

I won't even comment on how most of the world appears to hate people who are called "Americans."
 

I want to think that only a few bigots in the world actually hate "Americans" and the majority are either envious or jealous of our way of life. They don't realize just how hard we work to achieve our American Dream.
 

Interesting, Anon@ 9:30 PM,about Mexicans feelings towards Americans. Yet, here we be, with a whole website dedicated to their novelas which we, for the most part, enjoy (in some form or fashion).

So, in Mexico, the Jorge Salinas character would not have been well received, do you think?

Fatima
 

OT, but relevant to our Spanish learning: Has anyone seen the current movie "Instructions Not Included" directed by Eugenio Derbez?

I'm going to try to see it, but was just wondering if any of our Caray gang had seen it.

TIA. :)

Fatima
 

Fatima- Just saw it today and really enjoyed it.
 

Have to get to bed, but thought you all might be interested that a documentary just started on PBS about an elite high school mariachi band in Zapata, TX. These kids are really talented. Check your PBS listings.
 

The documentary is called "Mariachi High".
 

Vivi in DC! Thanks so much for the information. I hope to see the Derbez movie this week.

The "Mariachi High", is it part of a series like "Frontline" or some such?

I don't see it in my listing, but will give it another go. This sounds so very interesting.

Thank you as always!

Fatima
 

Well, my PBS isn't showing it as they are in the middle of a pledge drive wouldn't ya know?!

I'll be on the look out for this, tho'

Fatima
 

Jar, I like your aims at high and low; reminds me of Nanette and her AB lists.

Decie--Spot on about Dumb Derecho and Dumber Curtis and how they seemed to be necessary characters, but they could be inept without being so UNfunny.

UA--Picking up where Decie left off, how about this for a weekend discussion:
"Worst most annoying novela characters ever."
It shouldn't be that hard to come up with a handful. Maybe we should have 3 categories--men, women and children. QBA has them all!!!

I can already see in the avances that Cowardly OJ, hiding up on a ridge or rooftop has already missed several opportunities to shoot Justo--that weapon he has surely has a heat-seeking missle warhead on the tip. Even if he's waiting for Justo to make the drop, surely the $$$ are somewhere in the car.

What makes OJ think that Justo HASN'T already left a note or told someone that if something happens to him, look for OJ. I'm going to enjoy OJ's coming karmageddon. He needs to end up in prison, permanently (I just finished re-watching LQNPA and saw Bruno's face as he contemplated his shortened life behind bars with a bunch of sex-deprived (could also be sex-depraved or both) toughs. OJ deserves no less.

I did get a kick out of the prison guard's convo in heavily-Spanish-accented English, revert to Spanish with an English accent with the warden, who only spoke Spanish.

I thought Amalia was back-peddling a bit on her 100% apoyo of Maria's long-distance relationship with Santos. Doesn't she point out how futile this relationship is, given that Santos returned the letter and if she goes to ElLay, he might refuse to see her...maybe it makes more sense not to go. She didn't go as far as to tell her it's an impossible love, but she came pretty close.

After watching the episode, I concluded that only the Avances moved the action forward.

 

Tonight's article is ready. I'm attending a book signing early this evening so it will post automatically without avances if I don't get home in time.

Good thought on a weekender; it's time and we can come up with a very long list.
 

Today the subject of my wrath is Susanito. I can't believe how inappropriate it was for him to take Maria with him to the doctor to discuss his sperm count and why would she even want to go. Raises the yuck factor. Even worse he didn't take poor Irasema with him the first time. What an idiot and I hope he has a hard time persuading her to come back to him.

Oh yeah and in a society where machismo is raised to a high art I cannot imagine any Mexican man running around and blabbing to all and sundry about his inability to father children. If they mentioned it at all it would surely be blamed on the wife.

ANITA Of course Amelia backpedaled on the I support your love attitude — she doesn't and we all know it. I think Maria is finally turning a deaf ear to it. She really should focus some of her attention on her other daughters. Paloma is a teen pregnancy waiting to happen and Isa is going to end up in juevy if she keeps hanging around with the undisciplined Jalisquito. for truancy if nothing else.

 

Maria is like a sister to Susanito, but this whole "I can't knock my wife up so I'm not a man" is so ridiculous and not unique to the Mexican concept of machismo.

Susanito also has a lot of emotional maturing to do. We would have difficulty in being confident being the son of Mancia.
 

URBAN Maria might be like a sister to Susanito but I sure wouldn't go with my brother to hear something so personal and would tell him to take his wife who belonged there. Sue does need to grow up and just think the poor guy's parents are hysterical Mancia and dumbass Concho. He never had a chance. LOL
 

Neither would I, but neither Maria nor Susanito has a good grasp on appropriate boundaries. This is not hard to understand with smothers like theirs.

Maria will recover before Susanito does.
 

It's not surprising that Maria occasionally shows a lack of boundaries after all Amelia has none. I can still remember how creepy it was every time she would quiz Maria on wether she had slept with JAntos. I had hopes that Susanito had broken away from Mancia a bit when he stood up to her about Irasema. The one good thing about him taking someone with him to the doctor was that he did NOT take Mancia.
 

Good point. But he and Irasema will have to get their own place before he grows up.