Monday, September 09, 2013
Corazon Indomable #85, 9/9/13: Lupita’s Mommy and Daddy Continue to Pimp Themselves; Let’s Hope She Doesn’t Follow in the Family Business
The Old: Tav tries to break up with Doris; she refuses to be
broken up with. Mari treats us to a Venganza Monologue (thanks Adriana) about
how Rancho Narvaez will be “MIO!”
The New: The next day (new outfit indicates this), Maria
Alejandra is enjoying a quiet moment, doing work in her office and surprisingly
NOT giving us a Venganza Monologue, when all of a sudden La Hija del Gobernador
bursts in, packing heat. Doris, dressed very fashionably and tastefully for
murder, in a grey and black chiffon dress, points her handgun at Mari,
steadying it with her left hand, and says, “You are NOT going to marry my
father, and you certainly aren’t going to end up with my boyfriend!”
All of this makes Ester, La Loca, look very sane as she
continues to dig for water with a garden trowel in Realengo. Her blind neighbor
girl, Lina, passes by and Ester lures her over with some bread. Lina especially
likes sweet bread and mentions that her dad brings her bread, sometimes. Ester
can’t contain her enchantment with the little girl and kisses her hand, which
both surprises and pleases Lina. She asks if Ester isn’t evil (as is being said
about her). Ester explains that she’s just a bit undone/frayed (deshilachada/o)
at the moment, which happens sometimes when something bad or sad has happened
in someone’s life. She offers to tell Lina a fairytale. We see the beginnings
of a beautiful friendship.
Back to the real Locas, on the Island…Mari tells Doris to
pull the trigger, “Do it!” Doris wonders if Mari doesn’t think she’s capable of
doing it. Mari does, but she’s not scared of her.
D: Your life is at risk if you keep provoking me.
M: What do you mean by that? That if I don’t provoke you, you’re not capable of firing? Poor deluded girl (ilusa). I’m going to marry your father when I damn well feel like it! And your boyfriend, even if I stop being his wife, I have him so much in my hands that if I asked him to, he wouldn’t marry you!
D: Your life is at risk if you keep provoking me.
M: What do you mean by that? That if I don’t provoke you, you’re not capable of firing? Poor deluded girl (ilusa). I’m going to marry your father when I damn well feel like it! And your boyfriend, even if I stop being his wife, I have him so much in my hands that if I asked him to, he wouldn’t marry you!
Mari lunges for Doris reaching for the gun, they struggle
over it, Doris’s arm is wrapped around Mari’s neck, but Mari manages to bite
Doris’s hand, making her drop the gun. Mari grabs the gun and points it at Doris.
D: You damn ferocious beast (fiera)!
M: Call me Savage! That’s what everyone calls me! Go ahead! Now, get the hell out of here!
D: You damn ferocious beast (fiera)!
M: Call me Savage! That’s what everyone calls me! Go ahead! Now, get the hell out of here!
Doris refuses to leave, so Mari calls security to have her
dragged out.
Ed is visiting Tav in his hospital room, who is telling him
of his feeble attempt to break up with Doris. Her “self-love” won’t allow her
to accept that he broke up with her, and she’s giving HIM time to think about
it. Tav thinks it would have been best
for him to stay lost (in total agreement Tav), ‘cause all he’s had since he got
back is problems, problems, problems. In addition to his screwed up love life,
the doctors have said his nephew needs to remain hospitalized for another
month, and that’s money that they don’t have.
Lucia is desperate, meanwhile he’s stuck in this hospital bed.
Tony sighting! He grabs hold of Doris while Raiza and Mari
look on. Doris swears she’s not done with Mari. “I swear it will be on another
occasion! Don’t you forget Mendoza! Give me back my gun!” Mari refuses and has
Tony drag her off. Raiza is very worried about all this, but Mari tries to
brush it off saying Doris wouldn’t really kill her. Raiza is not sure of that. “She’s
an enemy. And enemies are always dangerous. You have to take measures.” Mari
says she’ll take the only measure that will infuriate Doris. (Yeah. That
sounds like a good idea. NOT!)
Doris is still fuming when she gets home to find Mariana
waiting. She is especially mad that they didn’t give her back her gun. The
second time, she won’t fail! “I am the Governor’s daughter, and no one can beat
me!” Mariana tries to talk some sense into her by warning her about the scandal,
and that for sure Mari will tell her father what she did.
Mariana is right on all accounts. Mari and Raiza have just
that moment arrived at the Gov’s office.
In the D.F. hospital, Tav is thanking Simona for all her help
with his nephew and Lucia. He blames himself for all the bad things that have
happened. (Don’t get too excited folks. He’ll forget again in a few minutes.)
Simona tells him it was just Destiny.
He’s asked himself over and over, and he just doesn’t understand why Lucia had
Mari’s grandpa murdered. (Because she is EVIL!) He waxes poetic about how
sometimes people act like marionettes, obeying unknown puppet master orders (or
like characters at the mercy of monkey writers). “How will it all end for us—for
Lucia, Miguel, Ester, me? Where? What is our final destiny?” (Only the Monkey Writers know Tav.)
Mari gets right to the point, and tells her fiancé, whom she’s
finally calling by his first name, that his daughter just tried to kill her.
Cara de “I shipped the wrong kid off to military school!” del Gov.
Tav continues to whine about his family. He’s not confident
in Miguel’s ability to stay on the wagon long-term, nor in the sustainability
of a long-distance marriage between his brother and his wife. Miguel will look
for the warmth of another woman. “I know I’m the one who has to help them, and
the only way to do that is by marrying Doris. Lucia has to go live with my
brother.” He feels the ranch is already
lost to them, and no, he won’t let Simona help them, since she’s already done
so much. Simona wants to do more though, and she has plenty of money. She would
just ask one thing in return—that he not marry Doris. Tav asks, “So that I can
marry you?” Simona gets flustered.
Raiza confirms to the Gov that Doris indeed just tried to
kill Mari. Mari hands him the gun, and tells him that his daughter needs psychiatric
help. The Gov agrees, is apologetic, and thanks her for not calling the cops.
Mari says she wouldn’t think of it, since she already considers herself part of
the FAMILY. (Raiza’s face during this exchange is priceless.) The Gov is surprised
Mari still wants to join his family. (Let’s count the many times he gives Mari
an opportunity to back out of this absurd engagement this episode.)
M: The truth is that I wasn’t intimidated because I’m not scared of her. You know what we’re going to do now? We’re going to get MARRIED sooner than we had planned. SOONER, my dear Bartolomé.
Gov: We have to think very hard about all that’s just happened.
M: Well, don’t think about it too much. We either get married now, or we don’t get married at all.
M: The truth is that I wasn’t intimidated because I’m not scared of her. You know what we’re going to do now? We’re going to get MARRIED sooner than we had planned. SOONER, my dear Bartolomé.
Gov: We have to think very hard about all that’s just happened.
M: Well, don’t think about it too much. We either get married now, or we don’t get married at all.
The Gov asks again if she’s sure. Mari says she wants to get
married next week. She’s decided!
Back in the D.F. hospital, Tav also seems willing to offer himself
up as a sacrifice in order to achieve a goal—financial security for his family.
He tells Simona that he knows she’s always cared for him, as more than a
friend. Simona admits it, but she also knows that his heart will always belong
to Maricruz. She runs out of the room crying.
Back in the countryside, we are introduced to yet another
character. This one is a lusty young lass, who has her eye on JA. She strikes a
provocative pose, twirls her hair (all she’s missing is the gum), and tries to
make small talk about his wife, La Loca. JA says she’s not crazy. He points out
what we’ve all known, that it’s perfectly normal for someone who just lost
their baby to visit their grave and speak to them. She wonders if JA isn’t
scared of La Loca, while she cops a few feels of his chest and arms. Why
continue to waste his time with La Loca, when there are sane and HOT women
(like herself) around? JA stops her roaming hands, but seems to be giving her
words some thought.
Girl: When are we going to talk?
JA: We’re talking now.
Girl: I’m always hanging out here, waiting to see you. You’re very handsome.
JA: But I’m married.
Girl: What about it? I’m not the jealous type.
JA: See you around, muchacha.
Girl: My name is COLUMBA!
JA: Yeah. Whatever.
Girl: When are we going to talk?
JA: We’re talking now.
Girl: I’m always hanging out here, waiting to see you. You’re very handsome.
JA: But I’m married.
Girl: What about it? I’m not the jealous type.
JA: See you around, muchacha.
Girl: My name is COLUMBA!
JA: Yeah. Whatever.
The Gov enters Doris’s room, places the gun on the bed, and asks
what the hell she was thinking. Doris barely looks up from doing her nails. “Yeah!
So! And what?”
His daughter’s flippant attitude enrages the Gov and he yanks her
up off the bed, demanding to know why she did it. Insert usual Doris rant. The
Gov threatens to put her in a mental hospital. She doesn’t care. She’ll escape,
and make another attempt on Mari’s life. “She just wants to marry you to bother
me, and she won’t give Tav a divorce for the same reason.” Doris insists that she’s not crazy, but she
will be if he marries Mari.
Gov: I’ve never paid too much attention to your spoiled whims, but
now we’re speaking about MY HAPPINESS!
D: Your happiness is based on that lowly woman (basura de mujer)?
G: Enough already, Doris!
D: In that SLUT who has slept with every man that she could use?
D: Your happiness is based on that lowly woman (basura de mujer)?
G: Enough already, Doris!
D: In that SLUT who has slept with every man that she could use?
SWAP!!! The Gov gives Doris an award-worthy slap right across her
bratty face. She falls to the window seat, and gives him a death glare.
In Realengo, Ester gives herself a pep talk and cleans her porch.
She’s bored out of her mind, and wonders how the other women of Realengo deal
with the boredom. Columba slithers up and asks after her dead baby, health, and
if she likes living there. Basically she wants to know if Ester is going to
keep living there, but runs off when Ester gets suspicious. Ester returns to
her thoughts about how to do something that fulfills her, makes JA proud of
her, and earns the trust of her neighbors. She then wonders if that girl came
looking for JA.
Back on the Isla, Doris has not been slowed one bit by the slap
heard round the world. But the Gov seems ashamed of what he did and exhausted.
She continues to rant about how she will make his and Mari’s life hell. She
looks crazier than ever, if that’s possible. I worry seeing that loaded gun sitting between
them on the bed. She finally orders him out of her room, and I breathe a sigh
of relief when he grabs the gun before leaving.
The Gov goes straight to Mari’s office to tell her about his
conversation with no-regrets Doris. He admits that he lost his cool and hit
her. Mari scolds him for it, and thanks him for defending her. He once again
asks if she’s sure about marrying him in a week, but this time she finds it a
bit difficult to fake her enthusiasm. He asks if she has doubts about becoming
his wife. “To the contrary. Now, more than ever, I want to become your wife.” The Love Gov says he will announce it in the
press tomorrow.
It’s the next morning, and Doris’s breakfast is ruined by the wedding
headlines. The dishware suffers for it. She makes a beeline for her father’s
office. They have the same argument they had the day before. He tells her to
accept that he’s marrying Mari, and that she will come live in this house. Even
if Doris can’t respect her as a mother, or a stepmother, she sure as heck will
respect her as his wife.
The news spreads like wildfire. Miguel reads the paper. He is sure
Mari doesn’t love the Gov, and can only be marrying him to meet her goals of
vengeance against Los Narvaez. He calls Tav with the news. Tav shakes his head,
rolls his eyes, and sighs. (My feelings exactly.)
Mari reads the news in her
office, and is not pleased. Raiza doesn’t get it. (Nor do I.) Mari was the one
who pushed this. Mari knows, but admits she’s not sure about marrying this man.
She just did it to make Doris and Tav suffer. It was craziness on her part.
Raiza points out that it won’t be easy to back out now, and it’s pretty
dangerous to jerk around a powerful man like the Gov. Mari feels she has no
other choice but to go through with it. He could easily shut down the casino or
expel her from the Island. “Maria Alejandra! What a mess you got yourself into!”,
scolds Raiza. Mari accepts that she’s the one who chose this destiny, and she’s going to have to
follow it. She’ll marry the Gov, although she’ll never love him.
In Miguelito’s room, the director has given the toddler who plays
Miggy his daily dose of Benadryl, and he’s out like a light as Simona and Lucia
talk over him. Lucia is worried about paying the hospital bills, but Simona
says Tav will take care of it. Lucia is feeling rather maudlin today. If she can’t be with her man and her child
together, she’d rather die. Simona reproaches her for speaking this way,
especially after having her prayers for her son’s health granted. Lucia agrees,
but she just wants to be with Miguel and her son. She is sure she’s going to
lose Miguel.
Tav tells Miguel that he thinks Mari is just bluffing, and that
she will pull out of marrying the Gov last minute. Miguel doesn’t think it will
be that easy. It’s the all powerful GOVERNOR we’re talking about here. She will
have the power she needs to really destroy Los Narvaez.
Doris is once again ranting to Mariana. Now she includes Mari’s
bastarda (who isn’t) in her plans for destruction. Mariana looks worried. Doris
regrets that she didn’t shoot Mari when she had the chance. She’d rather be in
jail than watch her father marry that slut. Mariana tries to reason with Doris,
that no one has the right to take another person’s life. “I don’t care! I can
get out of jail eventually; but you can never leave the grave.”
Tav tries to convince Miguel, and himself, that Mari loves him too
much to marry another. Miguel reminds him of all the reasons Mari has to hate
him. Tav agrees. Miguel then calls Lucia to spread the wedding gossip. She can’t
believe Mari would marry such an old man!
Tav works himself up into a state thinking of Mari’s upcoming nuptials.
He demands to see the doctor so that he can be released to return to the Island.
The nurse reminds him that his bionic leg has not yet healed. He needs
intensive therapy, or he might have permanent serious problems with it. Tav
doesn’t care.
Miguel and Lucia have the same conversation about this being part
of Mari’s revenge plan. Miguel wants Lucia to return to the ranch with their
son after he’s well. Lucia feels now more than ever, she needs to stand by her
man, and return to the island. Lucia refuses to live in fear. If Mari wants to
play this revenge game, then Lucia says “BRING IT ON!” She’s better at playing
the game! Miguel reminds her that Mari has plenty of reasons to want revenge
(cough*, you murdered her grandpa, cough*). Lucia’s not one to dwell on the
past, and pesky murders, and demands that Miguel not bring it up again. He apologizes,
and says she’s right. (Man, he’s whipped!)
Back to the only sane woman we’ll see tonight, Ester, La Loca.
Lina is in Ester’s shack. Ester has bathed her and washed her hair (getting rid
of the fleas), and is sewing a few dresses for her. She also educates Lina
about hygiene, admitting that she has neglected her own of late, but she won’t
do it anymore. They both say how happy they are to spend time with each other.
Ester says Lina is pretty and calls her my love. The sweet scene is interrupted when they hear
Lina’s dad angrily shouting for her.
Doris continues her rampage, all the way to D.F. She barges into
Tav’s hospital room and throws a copy of the newspaper at him.
Mari admits to herself that Raiza is right. If she dumps the Gov
now, he’ll for sure make her pay for the humiliation. Even Karim wouldn’t be
able to help her, since the Gov is all powerful. (Psst! Hey Mari. How about you
dump the Gov, sell your part of the casino, return to your MANSION in D.F., spend
some time with your family, see about ALL your other businesses, and
concentrate on getting the ranch, which is NOT on the island?) She decides not
to think about her fast approaching nuptials, and instead think about how to
buy the Narvaez Ranch, without anyone knowing it’s her or raising suspicions.
Lina’s Ogre Dad bangs on Ester’s door, insults Ester, and demands
that his daughter leave. He tells her that she can’t come back, and continues
with the insults to Ester when JA arrives. He demands that JA prevent his woman
from teaching his daughter evil things. If he finds his daughter there again,
he’s going to beat both his daughter and JA’s woman. JA grabs the ogre by the
shirt collar and tells him to back off.
Tav tries to calm Doris down by making light of the wedding news.
Doris says she won’t leave her father in the hands of that evil woman. Tav
corrects her. Mari may be impetuous and wild/savage, but never evil. Tav says
he won’t lose his cool and be manipulated by Mari. Doris is playing right into
Mari’s hands. Tav assures Doris that what Mari wants is to get revenge on him, because
she hates him, not because she wants him. Doris demands that he go to the
police and accuse Mari of bigamy!
JA tells the Ogre that his wife is a lady, and shouldn’t be
treated this way. Then he runs the guy off. Ester thinks JA has returned to his
former nice self, and tries to hug him, but nope. He yells that this is yet
another reason why Ester doesn’t belong there, and should return to her people.
Ester explains that she just wants to help Lina, who is more neglected than one
of the local animals. JA wonders since when has she cared about the poor and
downtrodden. Ester admits that it never mattered to her before she saw it up
close by living in Realengo. Destiny
brought her here so that she could learn what poverty was really like. “Well,
now you’ve seen it, so GO!” Ester
refuses to leave, and doesn’t understand why he’s changed his mind and wants to
break her heart twice—once because of their baby’s death; and the second would
be him leaving her. JA yells at her that any other babies she has would also
die (implying she is weak). Ester insist
she will stay, and bear him another healthy child. “No! I don’t want to have
another child with you. Get out! Leave!” He runs outside and says/admits to
himself that he never loved her. Columba
slithers by him and catches his eye. Ester cries inside the shack.
Tav refuses to accuse Mari of bigamy. He’d rather go with the easy
solution of giving Mari exactly what she wants—he and Doris will break up, and
then Mari will break off her engagement with the Gov. Doris would rather denounce
Mari to the police and have her locked up!
Back on the Island, Mari has thought up a way to get her hands on
the ranch. She doesn’t tell the audience. Then she wonders if Tav knows his
girlfriend tried to kill her and decides to call him with the news. He first worries that something bad happened
to Lupita.
M: Believe me, if it had to do with the baby I wouldn’t call you.
T: Why?! Who else has more right to know about the well-being of my child?
T: Why?! Who else has more right to know about the well-being of my child?
Mari puts an end to that argument before it really gets going, and
comes right out and tells him that his girlfriend tried to kill her! Cara
impactada de Tav.
Avances: Miguel tells Tav they have a buyer for the
ranch. Mari looks smug as Tony tells her Miguel took the bait. Doris says she
would rather die than have that woman replace her mother. She is found unconscious
on her bed by Mariana and others.
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That was fast and very comprehensive! I laughed out loud when you mentioned the Gov taking the pistol from Doris's bed -- it was almost like he was forgetting it and then thought better of it. On the other hand, if Doris waving a gun around is the only thing that brings out Tony well....
What, Octavio offers to marry Simona, telling her that he'll give it to her in exchange for money, KtheH???? So happy she ran out of the room. Octavio and MariaAle really think a lot of themselves! Vivi, yes, we must be concerned for Lupita, the child of two narcissists. Luckily she has Juanita affirming her self-esteem for the time being.
What, Octavio offers to marry Simona, telling her that he'll give it to her in exchange for money, KtheH???? So happy she ran out of the room. Octavio and MariaAle really think a lot of themselves! Vivi, yes, we must be concerned for Lupita, the child of two narcissists. Luckily she has Juanita affirming her self-esteem for the time being.
Permalink posted by 
: Monday, September 9, 2013 at 9:18:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 9, 2013 at 9:18:00 PM EDT
A great recap, Vivi! Despite the drama, I'm not sure much actually changed.
My favorite funny moment was Doris fussing at MA to give her back the gun. Yeah, that would be a logical thing to do!
Not that logic rules anything here. And if your life is a mess, just blame it on Destiny.
At least Ester is more engaged with reality, even if part of reality is an ogre dad.
My favorite funny moment was Doris fussing at MA to give her back the gun. Yeah, that would be a logical thing to do!
Not that logic rules anything here. And if your life is a mess, just blame it on Destiny.
At least Ester is more engaged with reality, even if part of reality is an ogre dad.
So fast Vivi, you must be a fast typist. Great job for a crazy episode. I didn't see Doris threatening with a gun coming. I hope she does something that lands her in jail. How can MA get a divorce so quickly? One week?
So MA's big plan is to have an anonymous offer made to buy the ranch? And it took her this long to come up with it?
The only thing that was a positive in this episode was a Tony sighting.
So MA's big plan is to have an anonymous offer made to buy the ranch? And it took her this long to come up with it?
The only thing that was a positive in this episode was a Tony sighting.
Great recap, Vivi, and up lightning fast. Hilarious as well and here are three of my favorite lines:
"What is our final destiny?” (Only the Monkey Writers know Tav.)"
"...the director has given the toddler who plays Miggy his daily dose of Benadryl, and he’s out like a light..."
"Lucia’s not one to dwell on the past, and pesky murders..."
And of course your advice to Maricruz is spot on.
I'm loving the tender relationship that is developing between Ester and Lina.
I think I'm despising José Antonio more than anyone else right now... this is of course subject to change at any given moment.
Doris has become far and away the most entertaining character. Those of you who insist on ff-ing through her scenes may be missing out on the best part of this TN.
Well, time for the Texans' game. Looks like a long night awaits.
Carlos
"What is our final destiny?” (Only the Monkey Writers know Tav.)"
"...the director has given the toddler who plays Miggy his daily dose of Benadryl, and he’s out like a light..."
"Lucia’s not one to dwell on the past, and pesky murders..."
And of course your advice to Maricruz is spot on.
I'm loving the tender relationship that is developing between Ester and Lina.
I think I'm despising José Antonio more than anyone else right now... this is of course subject to change at any given moment.
Doris has become far and away the most entertaining character. Those of you who insist on ff-ing through her scenes may be missing out on the best part of this TN.
Well, time for the Texans' game. Looks like a long night awaits.
Carlos
Daniela- I was also worried that the Gov would forget the gun, but I was more worried that Doris would use the gun on him! That look after he slapped her had so much hate in it. ITA about the rampant narcissism.
La Paloma- It was hilarious how Doris kept demanding the gun back. As if anyone would think that’s a good idea.
Cathyx- I can’t wrap my head around how Mari and the Gov think a married Mari is going to marry the Gov in a week, so I didn’t even try. I kind of want to see Doris get the authorities after Mari for bigamy. Maybe then we’ll finally have some closure/clarity on the Tav-Mari divorce situation.
Carlos- Glad you liked the recap. I also love the relationship developing between Ester and Lina. I worry for the actress playing Doris. It must take so much out of her when all of her scenes consist of these tantrums, the next crazier than the last. Hope the Texans’ game was good!
La Paloma- It was hilarious how Doris kept demanding the gun back. As if anyone would think that’s a good idea.
Cathyx- I can’t wrap my head around how Mari and the Gov think a married Mari is going to marry the Gov in a week, so I didn’t even try. I kind of want to see Doris get the authorities after Mari for bigamy. Maybe then we’ll finally have some closure/clarity on the Tav-Mari divorce situation.
Carlos- Glad you liked the recap. I also love the relationship developing between Ester and Lina. I worry for the actress playing Doris. It must take so much out of her when all of her scenes consist of these tantrums, the next crazier than the last. Hope the Texans’ game was good!
So sad about JA's turn toward jerkhood. I really thought he and Ester could be good together, and Ester is one of my favorite characters now.
For anyone who watched Marimar, were JA and Ester in the original? Don't want to know spoilers, just if they are new characters in this one. Is that considered a spoiler?
For anyone who watched Marimar, were JA and Ester in the original? Don't want to know spoilers, just if they are new characters in this one. Is that considered a spoiler?
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 9, 2013 at 11:43:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 9, 2013 at 11:43:00 PM EDT
Thank you for the very entertaining recap, Vivi. Feel free to use the Venganza Monologues whenever you want, it's not like MC will ever move on from talking to herself, anyway.
I loved your insight about "the real locas" - I was thinking along the same lines when watching.
Seeing Tav use big words like DESTINY and ponder on his fate is just what a guy would do at any given moment. (no, it's not!)
Whenever I heard MC called the Gov Bartolome, I gagged, could you imagine a bedroom scene between these two? (blech!) Barty and Mari sitting in a tree...
That "lusty young lass" (LOL, more like horny old hag) that is after JA now is just what we needed - God knows JA doesn't have enough love interests in the tn...
So Simona is making her move and Tav seems to ponder the idea of marrying her instead of Doris the Demented (btw, how much more loca can she get? paging the monkeys in charge).
Therefor, my question is: how long will it be between the moment Tav decides to marry Simona and the time she starts showing some crazy genes?
I do like MC having someone to confide in, though. Raiza has been the voice of reason for a long time, now, how about they give her a story, too?
I loved your insight about "the real locas" - I was thinking along the same lines when watching.
Seeing Tav use big words like DESTINY and ponder on his fate is just what a guy would do at any given moment. (no, it's not!)
Whenever I heard MC called the Gov Bartolome, I gagged, could you imagine a bedroom scene between these two? (blech!) Barty and Mari sitting in a tree...
That "lusty young lass" (LOL, more like horny old hag) that is after JA now is just what we needed - God knows JA doesn't have enough love interests in the tn...
So Simona is making her move and Tav seems to ponder the idea of marrying her instead of Doris the Demented (btw, how much more loca can she get? paging the monkeys in charge).
Therefor, my question is: how long will it be between the moment Tav decides to marry Simona and the time she starts showing some crazy genes?
I do like MC having someone to confide in, though. Raiza has been the voice of reason for a long time, now, how about they give her a story, too?
Great recap, Vivi. I especially liked "characters at the the mercy of monkey writers." I found it interesting that Octavio not Simona brought up the subject of marriage as a condition for her helping him out. I don't think that that would have been her condition since she clearly knows how he feels about Maricruz. And how will Maricruz avoid marriage with the governor? Marriages of convenience, marriages of revenge . . . "the slap heard round the world" was funny, too. You just knew that that was coming. At this point Doris is giving Lucia a run for her money in the crazy department. I would hate to see what could happen if they ever teamed up together.
Jarifa
Jarifa
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 3:27:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 3:27:00 AM EDT
I hope it's not a spoiler to answer, that new characters are: Solita, Juanita and Andres. All the others were in Marimar. Romero change something in their personalities, but anyway I can say that he copypast the story.
Alegria
Alegria
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 6:35:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 6:35:00 AM EDT
Adriana- I also like seeing Mari confide in Raiza. It's way more interesting to see Mari having conversations with people, not just giving a monologue or barking orders. Not like she'll actually listen to any good advice, but at least she can get some advice.
Jarifa- No need to worry. These writers would never have any of these characters, good or bad, do something smart like teaming up to reach a common goal. They are each the star of their own crazy show. They don't want to share the limelight.
Jarifa- No need to worry. These writers would never have any of these characters, good or bad, do something smart like teaming up to reach a common goal. They are each the star of their own crazy show. They don't want to share the limelight.
Alegria- I watched bits, here and there, of Marimar when they showed it not too long ago. The JA and Ester characters are not ringing any bells for me. I must have missed their scenes.
@Vivi - the JA and Esther characters were in Marimar, but with different names. But their acting was so pathetic that they were forgettable, so I don't blame you for not remembering them. In fact, if nothing else, the acting on C.I. is WAY better than on Marimar.
Oh, btw, Alegria is right that Romero copy pasted most of Marimar, but not all of it. Most of the few good lines of dialogue in C.I. (especially MC/MA's lines) are new, but Romero can't take credit for them. Ana Brenda improvised a lot of the best lines, according to an interview I read.
Oh, btw, Alegria is right that Romero copy pasted most of Marimar, but not all of it. Most of the few good lines of dialogue in C.I. (especially MC/MA's lines) are new, but Romero can't take credit for them. Ana Brenda improvised a lot of the best lines, according to an interview I read.
Vivi in DC, there are much more scenes with them here. I can say, that much more scenes with everybody. But by now nothing important were added
Alegria
Alegria
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
Wonderful Vivi. I only caught a few minutes here and there ( and it was always someone yelling!). Sorry, priorities for me last night--watching Nadal win.
What a tangled web these folks weave, and Doris seems headed to a nicely decorated padded cell by the end of this show. Gees, what a spoiled nut job.
Love how everyone is making out the governor as some all-powerful, all-knowing figure who could wreak his havoc on all and sundry no matter where they are. Yeah, sure. Have they looked at this guy? he can't even dye his hair well...
What a tangled web these folks weave, and Doris seems headed to a nicely decorated padded cell by the end of this show. Gees, what a spoiled nut job.
Love how everyone is making out the governor as some all-powerful, all-knowing figure who could wreak his havoc on all and sundry no matter where they are. Yeah, sure. Have they looked at this guy? he can't even dye his hair well...
Alegria and Latina- Glad I didn't miss anything important in Marimar. :)
Daisynjay- I also have to laugh about the perception of the Gov, versus the reality. He can't even control his bratty daughter!
Daisynjay- I also have to laugh about the perception of the Gov, versus the reality. He can't even control his bratty daughter!
Daisynjay- I've been meaning to ask the same question since you changed your avatar. This pic is from your latest travel, I assume.
Aahhhh nnoooooo! They turned Simona into one of them! Run, Simona, RUN.
So did people in Mexico like this show for the same reasons we do (its ridiculousness and the monkey) or did they really LIKE like it?
Kelly
So did people in Mexico like this show for the same reasons we do (its ridiculousness and the monkey) or did they really LIKE like it?
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 11:10:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 11:10:00 AM EDT
Kelly- I have been meaning to give this some thought, but then forget to. (I must be getting what Tav has.)
There are definitely stories/tns that are so ridiculous that you can’t look away, like a train wreck. It’s also a lot of fun to make fun of it. But it’s usually just a few diehards that stick with something like that (like El Talisman).
This tn definitely has “train wreck” elements, but that doesn’t explain the HUGE fan base and high ratings. The original/older versions of this were no better. This story has never been a strong one. But they also had HUGE fan bases and ratings. So, what’s the secret sauce for the Marimar/CI story? The three “Cs”-- Casting, Costuming, and a Cinderella story.
Casting- A super pretty and popular actress playing the heroine. In Marimar they had Thalia. In CI they have the added bonus of an actress who can actually act.
Costuming- Both versions dressed the heroine up in fabulous, stylish clothes and dresses in scene after scene, after her initial poverty and poor dresses.
Cinderella- It’s the classic story. Poor heroine turns into a princess. Rags to riches. An underdog story.
The writing doesn’t have to be good, and nor does the acting (as seen in Marimar). If these elements are in place, people will be drawn in and LOVE it.
For me, this isn’t enough. I couldn’t watch all of Marimar, or Cuidado con el Angel, because of the weaknesses in the story. I can only watch parts, take a long break, and maybe come back to see if anything has progressed (usually, not). But since I’m recapping this one, I feel I have to watch the whole thing.
There are definitely stories/tns that are so ridiculous that you can’t look away, like a train wreck. It’s also a lot of fun to make fun of it. But it’s usually just a few diehards that stick with something like that (like El Talisman).
This tn definitely has “train wreck” elements, but that doesn’t explain the HUGE fan base and high ratings. The original/older versions of this were no better. This story has never been a strong one. But they also had HUGE fan bases and ratings. So, what’s the secret sauce for the Marimar/CI story? The three “Cs”-- Casting, Costuming, and a Cinderella story.
Casting- A super pretty and popular actress playing the heroine. In Marimar they had Thalia. In CI they have the added bonus of an actress who can actually act.
Costuming- Both versions dressed the heroine up in fabulous, stylish clothes and dresses in scene after scene, after her initial poverty and poor dresses.
Cinderella- It’s the classic story. Poor heroine turns into a princess. Rags to riches. An underdog story.
The writing doesn’t have to be good, and nor does the acting (as seen in Marimar). If these elements are in place, people will be drawn in and LOVE it.
For me, this isn’t enough. I couldn’t watch all of Marimar, or Cuidado con el Angel, because of the weaknesses in the story. I can only watch parts, take a long break, and maybe come back to see if anything has progressed (usually, not). But since I’m recapping this one, I feel I have to watch the whole thing.
Great recap Vivi!!
I was really hoping to see Doris being led away in a straight jacket but the Guv is so weak he does absolutely nothing. She is still roaming the streets.
Someone mentioned giving Raiza a story and I must admit, seeing her in the Guv's office with MA made me think they would make a good couple. She is nearer his age and both of these lonely people could do well together.
Has MA's divorce gone through to Tav? Otherwise how is she marrying the Guv in a week? Of course she now regrets getting what she asked for, their engagement to be publicized.
Poor Simona! If she did something with her hair and makeup, and stopped dressing like my grandma, she wouldn't look too bad. She just needs one visit to a Sephora counter!
I was really hoping to see Doris being led away in a straight jacket but the Guv is so weak he does absolutely nothing. She is still roaming the streets.
Someone mentioned giving Raiza a story and I must admit, seeing her in the Guv's office with MA made me think they would make a good couple. She is nearer his age and both of these lonely people could do well together.
Has MA's divorce gone through to Tav? Otherwise how is she marrying the Guv in a week? Of course she now regrets getting what she asked for, their engagement to be publicized.
Poor Simona! If she did something with her hair and makeup, and stopped dressing like my grandma, she wouldn't look too bad. She just needs one visit to a Sephora counter!
Vivi -- I always look forward to your recaps with great expectations and you never disappoint. THANK YOU Great reap this time. The only comment, I hope the OD puts Doris out of commission for a long, long time.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 11:26:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 11:26:00 AM EDT
Carvivlie- I have never seen so many actors wasted in a tn before. I’ve have seen the actress playing Raiza do amazing work in other tns. She an old pro. Pairing her with the Gov would be an excellent idea. She would make the perfect governor’s wife. With all the extra episodes they added to this version, I’m not sure why they wasted time with all Venganza Monologues (yeah, we get it), when they could have used the other great actors they have and developed richer stories for them.
Not sure how Mari thinks she can marry the Gov in a week when she’s still married to Tav. I guess she’s adopted Doris’s way of thinking—what happens in Isla Dorada, stays in Isla Dorada.
emeraldrose- You’re very welcome. It will be quite nice to see Doris being quiet for a change, and it looks like an OD will achieve that. Or maybe she just got into Miguelito’s Benadryl?
Not sure how Mari thinks she can marry the Gov in a week when she’s still married to Tav. I guess she’s adopted Doris’s way of thinking—what happens in Isla Dorada, stays in Isla Dorada.
emeraldrose- You’re very welcome. It will be quite nice to see Doris being quiet for a change, and it looks like an OD will achieve that. Or maybe she just got into Miguelito’s Benadryl?
Carvivlie,
I think MA intends to marry under the MariAle name. The lawyer said it's not her fault that her parents didn't communicate with each other, which only makes sort of sense. And we also must give Octavio and Lucia the opportunity to accuse her of bigamy.
I think MA intends to marry under the MariAle name. The lawyer said it's not her fault that her parents didn't communicate with each other, which only makes sort of sense. And we also must give Octavio and Lucia the opportunity to accuse her of bigamy.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 11:57:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 11:57:00 AM EDT
Daniela- But wasn't the lawyer telling Tav that MC and MA were one and the same, so Tav can't claim they were never married just because MC doesn't exist anymore?
So if MA is MC, and MC is MA (according to her lawyer), then MA/MC is a married woman, period. The first time, she didn't know anything funny was going on with her identity. This time she does, so she is purposely/willingly committing a crime/fraud/bigamy. I say, arrest her if she goes through with the wedding!
So if MA is MC, and MC is MA (according to her lawyer), then MA/MC is a married woman, period. The first time, she didn't know anything funny was going on with her identity. This time she does, so she is purposely/willingly committing a crime/fraud/bigamy. I say, arrest her if she goes through with the wedding!
I posted what I thought were two good posts/comments Monday afternoon but I keep forgetting the time zone difference, my guess is that no one saw the late posts, so I will repeat one of my posts and a little bit of the first one.
Monday 9/9/13 Now let's see---for such a TERRIBLE novela, we have so far---CI with over 100 comments. Let's just say 100+ because there will be more. [there would have been more if I had posted earlier]
QBA---30 weekend comments.
PEAM---33 weekend comments.
LT---67 weekend comments. Just a little over half of CI's and that's without shirts, you know, all that macho skin. QUE???
Corazon Indomable ROCKS!!! and the numbers prove it. YEAH!!!
I will add as of now, Tuesday morning 9/10/13 we have
QBA---3 comments
PEAM---9 comments
LT---with out shirts---17 comments
CI---26 comments. Lousy writting, holes in the story and men with shirts, and yet CI still kicks A--
Mari and the governor---YUCK!! Are
you guys crazy?
Carlos---You finally got it right, put Simona with the governor.
Boy! you guys are after sex---Ester did it and look what happened to her. You guys are a riot.
Thw Venganza Monolgues? That made me laugh too.
the gringo
Monday 9/9/13 Now let's see---for such a TERRIBLE novela, we have so far---CI with over 100 comments. Let's just say 100+ because there will be more. [there would have been more if I had posted earlier]
QBA---30 weekend comments.
PEAM---33 weekend comments.
LT---67 weekend comments. Just a little over half of CI's and that's without shirts, you know, all that macho skin. QUE???
Corazon Indomable ROCKS!!! and the numbers prove it. YEAH!!!
I will add as of now, Tuesday morning 9/10/13 we have
QBA---3 comments
PEAM---9 comments
LT---with out shirts---17 comments
CI---26 comments. Lousy writting, holes in the story and men with shirts, and yet CI still kicks A--
Mari and the governor---YUCK!! Are
you guys crazy?
Carlos---You finally got it right, put Simona with the governor.
Boy! you guys are after sex---Ester did it and look what happened to her. You guys are a riot.
Thw Venganza Monolgues? That made me laugh too.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 12:20:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 12:20:00 PM EDT
Gringo- I saw your late comment. I love that you are CI's (and ABC's) #1 fan. Your comment counts for LT is off though. CI also tends to get our recaps up faster than the others, so the comments start more quickly. Plus, bad tns do tend to get more comments because the commenters have so much to criticize. :) But you are right that CI has a big audience. That doesn't mean it's good. See my comment above.
Super recap Vivi
I think Miguel will end up with Simona, Lucia is slated for the pie truck.
Why didn't the Gov at least remove the bullets?
I think Miguel will end up with Simona, Lucia is slated for the pie truck.
Why didn't the Gov at least remove the bullets?
Vivi...I got such a kick out of this recap. I love your observations.
Welcome to "Marrying for Dollars." Show of hands if you are interested in marrying that legend in His Own Mind Oblivio.......no one......so it's just Doris and possibly Simona with their hands raised to be contestants....short line.
I am starting to have a soft spot for Ester now that she is bonding with the little girl. Simona seems to have a brain and a heart. The rest of these characters are BSC.
And DaffyDoris , the GOVENOR'S DAUGHTER, with a hand gun. really ????? She definitely needs to try some new activities.....perhaps, volunteer at the island hospital...take an online course...shelve books at the community library...learn to knit...something to broaden her horizons. Doris, get a life.
Welcome to "Marrying for Dollars." Show of hands if you are interested in marrying that legend in His Own Mind Oblivio.......no one......so it's just Doris and possibly Simona with their hands raised to be contestants....short line.
I am starting to have a soft spot for Ester now that she is bonding with the little girl. Simona seems to have a brain and a heart. The rest of these characters are BSC.
And DaffyDoris , the GOVENOR'S DAUGHTER, with a hand gun. really ????? She definitely needs to try some new activities.....perhaps, volunteer at the island hospital...take an online course...shelve books at the community library...learn to knit...something to broaden her horizons. Doris, get a life.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 1:55:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 1:55:00 PM EDT
Cathy, Vivi, yep, that was taken while I was in India. we had some mornings before work to hit some sites on the non-rainy mornings.
The building my boss insisted I stand in front of ( he said I had to prove I was there) is the Sheesh Gumba in the beautiful Lodhi Gardens in Delhi. There are 3 major structure in the garden, two of them are tombs, all three date back to the 15th and 16th century (this one was 15th). The Sheesh is one of the tombs, but of an unknown family.
At one time, each of the structures was alone with it's own gardens, and finally the city joined them into one huge middle of the craziness place of serenity. It's almost eery how the hectic noise of the city immediately disappears the minute you enter the gardens ( vegetation absorbs the noise) and all you hear are the various birds the garden is famous for, some, I might add, who like to walk right along with you as you stroll.
The building my boss insisted I stand in front of ( he said I had to prove I was there) is the Sheesh Gumba in the beautiful Lodhi Gardens in Delhi. There are 3 major structure in the garden, two of them are tombs, all three date back to the 15th and 16th century (this one was 15th). The Sheesh is one of the tombs, but of an unknown family.
At one time, each of the structures was alone with it's own gardens, and finally the city joined them into one huge middle of the craziness place of serenity. It's almost eery how the hectic noise of the city immediately disappears the minute you enter the gardens ( vegetation absorbs the noise) and all you hear are the various birds the garden is famous for, some, I might add, who like to walk right along with you as you stroll.
Vivi great recap as always. Thank you. Some lines that amused me were
--Doris is dressed very fashionably
and tastefully for murder. How could anyone not smile at that line
I ask? Another good one was--Don't
get too excited folks, he'll forget in a few minutes. Vivi, I really broke out laughing when I read---I shipped the wrong kid off to military school. Your death glare comment was great also.
I must comment to all of you that ff when Doris comes on the scene, a big mistake. Ingrad Martz is doing an excellent job. I have to hand it to her, she's playing the crazy to the tee. Yes, she is giving Elizabeth Alvarez a run for the money. Great acting from both actresses.
I must admit that when Ester first
came into the novela, I didn't have much interest in her. Big deal
the cousin comes to visit. Her role has been expanding and is getting very interesting. I like the Lina/Ester scenes. I hope the father doesn't keep Lina away from
Ester, they are so good together.
Vivi---CI gets more comments because people don't like it so they comment more. What? Right, people hate it so much that they can't turn it off and so it becomes
#1 in two countries. The count on LT did go up but it was at 67 when I looked at it. No matter, no shirts still got beat and my guess is that it will continue to get beat. However I must say that I like William Levy and what man could not like Miss Universe, Ximena Navarrete? Did I just say that? Well Ximena Navarrete is Miss
Universe but Ana Brenda is the Goddess of Mexico OK!
Putting everything aside, CI is a good story with a good cast. Monkey
writers? Don't care, the story, great cast and acting draws people in and I'm not leaving.
the gringo
--Doris is dressed very fashionably
and tastefully for murder. How could anyone not smile at that line
I ask? Another good one was--Don't
get too excited folks, he'll forget in a few minutes. Vivi, I really broke out laughing when I read---I shipped the wrong kid off to military school. Your death glare comment was great also.
I must comment to all of you that ff when Doris comes on the scene, a big mistake. Ingrad Martz is doing an excellent job. I have to hand it to her, she's playing the crazy to the tee. Yes, she is giving Elizabeth Alvarez a run for the money. Great acting from both actresses.
I must admit that when Ester first
came into the novela, I didn't have much interest in her. Big deal
the cousin comes to visit. Her role has been expanding and is getting very interesting. I like the Lina/Ester scenes. I hope the father doesn't keep Lina away from
Ester, they are so good together.
Vivi---CI gets more comments because people don't like it so they comment more. What? Right, people hate it so much that they can't turn it off and so it becomes
#1 in two countries. The count on LT did go up but it was at 67 when I looked at it. No matter, no shirts still got beat and my guess is that it will continue to get beat. However I must say that I like William Levy and what man could not like Miss Universe, Ximena Navarrete? Did I just say that? Well Ximena Navarrete is Miss
Universe but Ana Brenda is the Goddess of Mexico OK!
Putting everything aside, CI is a good story with a good cast. Monkey
writers? Don't care, the story, great cast and acting draws people in and I'm not leaving.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 2:47:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 2:47:00 PM EDT
Columba....Just what we need..another forgettable character for the writers to introduce and then forget about. Fine. I hope that Lina's father has an unfortunate accident ...maybe something fatal he caught from consorting with Columba...and Ester adopts Lina.
Miguel and Lucia...a marriage made in hades. Now, those two truly deserve each other. Table for two in hell, please.
Please, please. Please, let Oblivio marry Doris. It would be just what he needs to snap out of his delusions of grandeur. Mariana could come live with them...double trouble for the galan ..who wasn't.
Miguel and Lucia...a marriage made in hades. Now, those two truly deserve each other. Table for two in hell, please.
Please, please. Please, let Oblivio marry Doris. It would be just what he needs to snap out of his delusions of grandeur. Mariana could come live with them...double trouble for the galan ..who wasn't.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 2:53:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 2:53:00 PM EDT
Susanlynn---I got a kick out of your Doris list but somehow, I just can't see Doris knitting. LOL
Table for two in hell please---OMG!
Cathyx---Next time you see your hairdresser, tell her that the gringo says hi.
the gringo
Table for two in hell please---OMG!
Cathyx---Next time you see your hairdresser, tell her that the gringo says hi.
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 3:03:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 3:03:00 PM EDT
Didn't Simona already hold the mortgage on the ranch? I recall from some of the early episodes that Miguel had already mortgaged the ranch. If so, did she get paid up at some point and I missed it?
Also, didn't Octavio actually propose marriage to Simona in an early episode shortly before he wed Maricruz?
Of all the characters to commit suicide, for me, Doris would seem to be the least likely.
What happened to Maricruz's plan to bring Solita and her son (has he been named?) to the island? Dare I hope that the monkey comes along? Imagine... "...monkey loose in the casino!"
gringo, I agree that the acting here is often superb. I actually think that much of the dialogue very well written. My problem is the utter lack of coherence and the failure to get the most out of the overall plot. I'm betting that even you will admit that that whole plane crash/ rescue effort thing just fizzled.
Vivi,
"I say, arrest her if she goes through with the wedding!"
Yes! Maybe she'll protest that her baby won't be able to get along without her if she goes to jail. Who'll be there to see that she gets fed and gets to sleep? Oh... that's right...
Carlos
Also, didn't Octavio actually propose marriage to Simona in an early episode shortly before he wed Maricruz?
Of all the characters to commit suicide, for me, Doris would seem to be the least likely.
What happened to Maricruz's plan to bring Solita and her son (has he been named?) to the island? Dare I hope that the monkey comes along? Imagine... "...monkey loose in the casino!"
gringo, I agree that the acting here is often superb. I actually think that much of the dialogue very well written. My problem is the utter lack of coherence and the failure to get the most out of the overall plot. I'm betting that even you will admit that that whole plane crash/ rescue effort thing just fizzled.
Vivi,
"I say, arrest her if she goes through with the wedding!"
Yes! Maybe she'll protest that her baby won't be able to get along without her if she goes to jail. Who'll be there to see that she gets fed and gets to sleep? Oh... that's right...
Carlos
Carlos, LOL!
ITA that this tn has great actors...who are being WASTED! After watching Manuel Landeta in Teresa and then Corazon Valiente, and Rocio Banquels in CME, I just cannot get over how the writers and director absolutely failed to give these actors real material.
Gringo- Just because it's a badly written/directed tn doesn't mean people can’t like it. I've said why I think people like it, and it's NOT the writing, or the storyline/story arch, or the directing. Any good stuff coming out of these actors is to their credit alone. The only people on this tn who deserve awards, other than the actors, are the costuming department—specifically the people in charge of dressing ABC and the other ladies.
ITA that this tn has great actors...who are being WASTED! After watching Manuel Landeta in Teresa and then Corazon Valiente, and Rocio Banquels in CME, I just cannot get over how the writers and director absolutely failed to give these actors real material.
Gringo- Just because it's a badly written/directed tn doesn't mean people can’t like it. I've said why I think people like it, and it's NOT the writing, or the storyline/story arch, or the directing. Any good stuff coming out of these actors is to their credit alone. The only people on this tn who deserve awards, other than the actors, are the costuming department—specifically the people in charge of dressing ABC and the other ladies.
How funny...Gringo and I picked the very same quotes to highlight:
"dressed very fashionably and tastefully for murder" [yes, a flowered sundress would have been ALL WRONG]
and
cara de "I shipped the wrong kid off to military school"
Both gems. Plus I loved "no-regrets Doris". Also your translation of "deshilachada". Now there's a word I can use! Definitely feeling a bit deshilachada of late. Thanks Ms. Vivi.
Not on the page that actually shows the avatars, so must find a way to locate this on the main page since they've gotten so exotic. You get it posted so early I often miss it the next day.
"dressed very fashionably and tastefully for murder" [yes, a flowered sundress would have been ALL WRONG]
and
cara de "I shipped the wrong kid off to military school"
Both gems. Plus I loved "no-regrets Doris". Also your translation of "deshilachada". Now there's a word I can use! Definitely feeling a bit deshilachada of late. Thanks Ms. Vivi.
Not on the page that actually shows the avatars, so must find a way to locate this on the main page since they've gotten so exotic. You get it posted so early I often miss it the next day.
Judy- I know Kizzie's health troubles have left you deshilachada of late. I've been sending good thoughts to you and your furry baby.
As for arresting Maricruz if she goes through with the wedding... not before allowing the happy couple (and us) to enjoy what will certainly be a memorable wedding night, complete with Champagne, chocolate-covered strawberries, a bed covered in rose petals, and zillions of candles flickering accompanied by appropriately romantic music.
Carlos
Carlos
Vivi,
Gently filtered lighting and carefully chosen camera angles... you'll be fine... trust me...
Carlos
Gently filtered lighting and carefully chosen camera angles... you'll be fine... trust me...
Carlos
Carlos, in early episodes Octavio asked Simona to help with rancho. She said "sorry", but Miguel already mortgaged the rancho to the bank. So in fact she never helped with money. So I can't understand about what unpaid help all Narvaez talking. They should better say thanks to MC, but they never did.
Alegria
Alegria
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 4:03:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 4:03:00 PM EDT
Carlos, if gently filtered lighting = lights off and carefully chosen camera angles = just a black screen, then I'm all for it.
Bring on the Mari&Barty love scenes - they need a ship name, how about Barticruz? :D
Bring on the Mari&Barty love scenes - they need a ship name, how about Barticruz? :D
And, Carlos, I'd like a bottle of brain bleach, too, and some soothing syrup for my throat for when I start to scream "My eyes, my eyes" when we finally get to see the first manly chest, Bartolome's (his name alone oozes future sexy promises, I don't know how MC resisted him until now).
Adriana Noel, I think that it was the change in the tint of his hair that finally won her over.
Carlos
Carlos
Vivi and all, I try to figure out why so many people like this TN in spite of its defects. I agree a Cinderella story is always popular.
Octavio is trying to reunite with MA, but his ability to reason and persuade is weak (unless he's kissing).
The reborn MA looks great, but her intensive education didn't include how to control her emotions and her temper. Too bad Don Ale couldn't live a little longer.
Maybe people just want to see MA gain her vengeance, only to see that it's a hollow victory without her TRUE LOVE. And to see Octavio
realize that he loved MA all along and can't live without his TRUE LOVE.
It's a wild train ride, and the fashions, the luxury, the drama of the other characters are just scenery along the way. And the monkey is the conductor.
Octavio is trying to reunite with MA, but his ability to reason and persuade is weak (unless he's kissing).
The reborn MA looks great, but her intensive education didn't include how to control her emotions and her temper. Too bad Don Ale couldn't live a little longer.
Maybe people just want to see MA gain her vengeance, only to see that it's a hollow victory without her TRUE LOVE. And to see Octavio
realize that he loved MA all along and can't live without his TRUE LOVE.
It's a wild train ride, and the fashions, the luxury, the drama of the other characters are just scenery along the way. And the monkey is the conductor.
Carlos---I think that I could have put together a better rescue than Karim did. That was the worst rescue effort ever. I'm still laughing. But the safari clothes were cool.
the gringo
the gringo
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 5:33:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 5:33:00 PM EDT
Oof...So many funny comments since I last checked in ( I've been doing FaceTime with my daughter in Toronto for over an hour...another yikes.)
La Paloma..I have a clear mental image of the monkey as the conductor of this crazy train.
Adriana Noel, Carlos , and Cathyx...You guys are too funny . poor Bart..He just wants him some sweet, young trophy wife. I can't despise a guy whom I will always see as Don Luis's lawyer/business manager/father figure in ALborada . He was such a good guy in that show that I have to love him in any telenovela that he is in....so...I confess that I do not hate as much as ALMost everyone else on this ride on the Crazyville Express.
La Paloma..I have a clear mental image of the monkey as the conductor of this crazy train.
Adriana Noel, Carlos , and Cathyx...You guys are too funny . poor Bart..He just wants him some sweet, young trophy wife. I can't despise a guy whom I will always see as Don Luis's lawyer/business manager/father figure in ALborada . He was such a good guy in that show that I have to love him in any telenovela that he is in....so...I confess that I do not hate as much as ALMost everyone else on this ride on the Crazyville Express.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 5:34:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 5:34:00 PM EDT
I picture him wearing the kind of black socks that have an elastic strap to hold them up. Do you remember those from years ago?
Susanlynn- I actually like the Gov. I just don't want to see his wrinkles caressing Mario's young flesh.
-Vivi (my phone won't let me sign in)
-Vivi (my phone won't let me sign in)
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 5:53:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 5:53:00 PM EDT
Uh-oh..Mario...I do not remember Mario, and I did not realize that the LUV GOV was so inclined !!! VIvi....These technical devices have minds of their own, verdad ?
So..we have all agreed..no Mario caressing.
So..we have all agreed..no Mario caressing.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 6:41:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 at 6:41:00 PM EDT
Vivi sorry for posting so late but wanted to commend you for making such a crazy episode so much fun!!
Not too many objected when she boinked the elderly Rogelio in LQNPA and let's face it, the Guv has a much better disposition.
Carlos
Carlos
LOL! I don't know who Mario is either. Maybe my phone does. :) I'd probably prefer him caressing Mari over the Love Gov though.
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