Caray, Caray!

Hola Y'all. The recap is up. Please enjoy ; )
 

Thank you so much Madelaine. There was a lot of evidence to consider tonight.

I'm trying to figure out why Marcia is still showing up, however briefly.

Suarez has a bit of a mala suerte vibe, doesn't he? but I think he's just playing the dumb cop to Chucho's "H. Poirot".

I got a little chill for Cynthia risking Killeronica's wrath by sneaking into the chamber to view the "wall of doom". But the rest of the episode had some sweet moments, especially Pato and Rogelio.
 

The quintuplet twist was funny.

Too bad the whole novela hadn't been a light murder mystery of some kind with an inspector Chucho.

Jarifa



 

Thank you, Madelaine for recap subbing duty. Your recap,was far better than the episode. Congratulations to Ferny and Xochy, quintuplets are wonderful but now there will be five more whining, screeching people.
Hahaha- mala suerte commercial , I couldn't stop laughing when I saw it.
Jesus is a one man police department. Why is Detective Shyster Suarez so complacent with circumstantial evidence? I was impressed with the witness who had excellent vision because he was able to give such a detailed description of what went on at a distance. Amazing, he was never questioned. And no one except for Jesus reviewed the surveillance tapes? Alma should be free by the end of the week.

 

Excellent recap Mads!

It does seem that with all the evidence Chucho is gathering, it should result in Alma's freedom soon. I hope so. I don't mind if Vero is on the run till the last episode. It's just sad and depressing to have the heroine locked up at the end, when two children need her.

Wow! Quints! Can Xochi and Fer really handle that? They certainly need to get a bigger place now.
 

Alma supposedly went to the pharmacy to pick up baby formula, yet in prison, she had to go to the infirmary to have her breast pumped. Why didn't she just breast feed her baby the night of the murder? Was this ever explained?
 

Gobluefan- After her argument with Vero, Alma was having trouble getting her milk out (it's a common thing in tns for a lactating woman to suddenly dry up after an upsetting incident) and so had to make the emergency run for formula because the baby needed to be fed. I guess things went back to normal after a while once she went to prison.

Could Vero have done something/given something to Alma during that visit to make her temporarily lose the ability to breastfeed? How did she know Alma would be leaving the house and going to the pharmacy when Alma had basically been shut in at home caring for the baby?
 

Thanks Madelaine. Wondrous job as always.

I'm on the fence about the quints...I mean maybe triplets would have still been funny. Maybe it's looking at that little person who is supposed to be incubating five little people....and they thought Alma needed bed rest?? I say Avon needs to open a corporate Day Care center soon.

Anyone else see an anvil over Cyn's head. So not feeling good about her helping Chucho now. And I agree, the only reason Suarez is being shown to be pig-headed is so that Chucho can be the ultimate hero. Yawn.

You know, I had to sort of agree that Rico shouldn't have expected to get his job back. Real world, you left the way he did from a company, security wouldn't have even left you in the door. But then we are in the Chuchoville alternate universe, so I'm sure our hero will convince Rog to take him back. Yawn.

Daisynjay
 

... and how did they know she was going to turn on the AC?

That was something she could or could not have done, depending...

Can you leave something like that to chance?
 

Pablo- There are a LOT of holes when you think about how Vero planned and pulled this off. How did she know if and when Alma would leave her house? How did she know Alma would turn on the AC, even though it was night and cool enough to wear a jacket? How did she know Marta would show up? Vero must be psychic.
 

Knowing that Alma would be out of her house meeting her, wouldn't it have made more sense for Marta to seize that opportunity to go to Alma's house and try to snatch her baby?
 

How did she know her breasts would stop producing milk, right?
How did she know Alma was not going to call the pharmacy and ask for delivery?

Yeah, you're right... either she has a special gift, or people is becoming too predictable.
 

Thanks Mads! Great idea likening Chucho to M. Poirot. He (Chucho) seems smarter already.

I fear for Cynthia, hope she gets out of Killeronica's house pronto. I always get a laugh out of women who sneak around in super high heels.
 

Oh my goodness Mads, yet another recap! Hellz bellz, I think you could carry CarayCaray all by yourself if you had to, Ms. Energizer.

'Scuse me but quintuplets aren't funny. Twins are hard enough, triplets are a nightmare without a lot of help, quintuplets are absolutely impossible. I know people have done it...but it's not funny. Those early years are just a blur.

Like all your stalwart recappers, I'm counting the days till this is over. As far as I'm concerned, they could just limit the scenes to Pati, Rogelio and Val and I'd be happy. Can the rest!

Thanks again, Mads, you are truly amazing. And appreciated.
 

Well, Octavio, who has a sick sense of humor left a few weeks ago, and left the ''automatic writer pilot'' on. He told he was sure by now nobody was watching and nobody would notice.

Filling up 181 episodes was a requirement he had in the contract, but that didn't specify the quality of the content, LOL!!
 

Of course he left a few weeks ago because he is now back on the rancho in CI! So much for the moonkey work ethic . . . .

Jarifa
 

That's some of why I'm on the fence with the quints plot Judy. I have twins, and I agree, it's not usually an easy tasks to carry multiple babies let alone the work when you have more than one bundle to love right away.Five---really? That's just typical for how over the top and stupid these writers think "funny" is. The health issues alone go escalating way up for the mother too. But I'm sure we are supposed to park all that, they will just make fun at how huge Xochi is and make her whine through it all.

The writers were losing me with the deaths and behavior towards Val in this....I think they may have sealed it with this plotline if it goes where I think it's going.

Daisynjay


 

OT: when I was telling Flaco about the new TN that comes on after this one, he said it sounded a lot like Amor Real. So I looked it up and it is a (modern day) remake of AR. I didn't see AR, but I know a lot of you think it was one of the best ever made.

Nanette

Watched the last 10 minutes of PEAM. Alma is still in jail. Bummer.
 

Thanks Mads for the great recap. Looking forward to the Pato/Rog/Ferny scenes.

OMG! Xochi with quints. She’s so little to carry so many babies.

I think it’s funny that Rog still calls her Sushi—though I did hear him call her Xochi once during a conversation they had in an ep last week.

I would think Pato would get a little tired of doing all the baby duties. She needs to get Rog to step up. But glad to know she loves the little stinker.

I’m liking Cynthia, now.

 

Thanks so much for this recap Mads. Poor Alma needs to be released.

ITA w/Judy & Daisnjay - Xochi having quints is not funny.


 

Is having more than 1 baby common in people who take pregnancy enhancers, or is it just a way out for the writers?
 

Good Re-Cap Madelaine, I was surfing from the World Series to Monday Night Football, catching PEAM when the two sporting events were in commercials... I see I didn't miss much.

Xochi's in for one hell-of-a cesarean, I don't think she is built for natural birth...even if it was only one.

Jesuss should moonlight as a Pvt. Investigator, he is the Magnum PI of Mexico. I wonder if any police dept. would really turn over surveillance tapes from a crime scene without a "freedom of information request"...plus why wouldn't the police try to contact the homeless man on the tapes...Oh, I'm sorry, this is all make believe...let me snap out of it....

OT
Judy B. we are down but not out, after Sunday's beatdown..NFC east is a mess, but that keeps our hopes alive.....Go'Skins
 

OT: I'm getting Yahoo! Alerts for Silvia Navarro and Lucero to see when there next TNs will be.

I saw an article in Spanish that Flaco took a look at and said it looks like SN will be in a TN next year with Ivan Sanchez (Wolfman from Tempestad--Hernan). So excited, if it's true. She's my fav.
 

Nanette,

The thing that SN and IS are in is a live play, not a TN. Vivi, I think mentioned it here on the board before she had gone on vacation. It would be great if they did a TN.
 

Good Afternoon Y'all,

Thanks for all your lovely kind words. At least we have movement now with the plot as far as Chucho and Delia finding out what Killeronica has done.

Agree about the Xochi storyline and 5 babies. It wonder where they are all going to fit. Xochi is one tiny girl.

I hope Rico has learned his lesson and has to grovel a bit. He was so rude and nasty to everyone when he had all that money. I hope he now realizes the friends are worth way more than money and that Mari has been there this whole time for him.

Poor Aida and Julio. Nothing is working for them as far as doing the deed. I wonder why they haven't found a hotel room and done the deed there. Oh, wait maybe broken pipes or a fire might stop them there. Never mind ; )
 

Pablo:

With fertility treatments you are taking a chance. There is always the possibility of having more than one baby with them.

I knew of a woman ,when I was a kid, that had one baby, the next were twins and the next were triplets. I don't know if she was taking fertility treatments or not. She didn't have any more kids after the triplets.
 

Nanette- Here is the info I posted about the SN/IS play:
Silvia Navarro and a few of the guys from La Tepestad will be touring Mexico in a Sam Shepard play starting November. The play is “Locos de Amor”, SN and Ivan Sanchez (Hernan) are the protagonists, and Alejandro Ibarra (Bagre) and Franky Martín (Lolo) are the supporting characters.

Here is the poster of SN and IS: http://twitpic.com/dgs315

Here is the poster with all four: http://twitpic.com/dgl8nn

Here they are just hanging out: http://twitpic.com/dh85jn

Article on the play: http://www.informador.com.mx/entretenimiento/2013/490158/6/silvia-navarro-e-ivan-sanchez-apuestan-por-locos-de-amor.htm

This is the schedule: http://twitpic.com/dh4wqh

 

Thanks!
The only thing we need right now, is that those five babies come out one of each race. They did that to Jessy anyway...
Can you see it? The plastic baby was black, so why not have a real one, and a red, white, yellow, brown?

I know, I know, I am crazier than the monkey...
 

Thank you, Mads. All of a sudden a bunch of stuff is happening! I can't keep up!!

If Ric is looking for a job, I bet Orion needs people.

Good question as to why Marcia is showing up now. Maybe she can help with the investigation somehow.

I don't think Vero knew Alma would dry up that night - I think she just had her guys watch Alma until an opportunity arose, and the opportunity happened to arise that night.

The original plan was probably just to kill Alma, but then Marta pissed Vero off and Vero saw a new opportunity to ruin both of them.

That's just a guess.

And I agree that quintuplets is not funny. In real life there would be a strong chance that not all five of them would make it.

As for tonight, I'm just grateful there's no baseball. I don't watch faithfully, but things usually get interesting around Game 6 or so. ;-)
 

Lee...I'll keep rooting for the 'Skins. There's more hope for them than there is for this telenovela right now!

However, our recappers continue to shine!

And our commenters too. I've decided the community is more important than the stories we watch.

I love reading all your opinions, and enjoy immensely how the different recappers meld a wandering mess into a cohesive whole.
 

Thanks, Mads. Superb telling of a WTF story.

I don't think the quints thing is funny, either. We've already had one character on bedrest forever. Xochi will surely be on bedrest before long, unless they decide to make this completely unrealistic (which could very well happen). Guess that's what happen when you take lots of fertility drugs without even taking some time to see if you can conceive without them, though. Didn't they only try for a few weeks before she decided she was infertile?

I know you can get a 4-kid stroller. There are some people in my neighborhood with quadruplets and I've seen it. It's probably possible to special order one for five, although it's unlikely all five would survive. I think this could tank Xochi's career, between the probably bed rest and the exhaustion from dealing with five babies.

Rog should step up and do more of the baby care. I thought he was supposed to be redeeming himself.

I would guess the thugs set Alma's AC on full blast while they were messing with the car, so that as soon as she started the car, she would get hit with it and pass out before she could do anything else. As to how they got her out of the house, I don't think Vero is that clever. She probably just had everything on standby, figuring Alma would be desperate for an outing, any outing, at some point. If nothing else, she seems committed to getting regular manicures. Even prison hasn't messed up her nails yet!
 

Thanks Mads and Vivi for the correction. Sorry if I got anybody else's hopes up ;) I'm disappointed. But I won't give up hope she (or Lucero) will turn up in one next year.
 

Ha ha! I noticed Alma's perfect nail polish. Same color as the night of the murder, too.

Julia, the way I see it, as far as the writers/monkeys/sloths/Octavio are concerned, Rogelio IS redeeming himself because he's applying himself at work. He's a man! That's how men redeem themselves! If Paty doesn't like it, she should count her blessings that she isn't bedridden and/or insane like so many of the women in this TN.
 

Julia:

I am with your theory about what happened that fateful night. I think Mala Suerte was with Alma that night and things just clicked for Killeronica. She saw her chance and took it.

My theory is that the woman in the blonde wig is Killeronica, she must have driven the car back to Alma's apartment building and gotten a ride from her henchies from there. I also don't believe that voice on the phone was Alma's either. Either Killeronica doctored the voice mails or used some type of voice altering device and made it sound like Alma. I think Killeronica is guilty on both counts.

I am hating the previews of Killeronica going to the prison just to irritate Alma and gloat.
 

I don't know what the situ is, maybe she got tricked into it, but Alma CAN refuse visitors.

Flaco says the article he read said that SN would be doing a TN "after". He assumed it was after hanging at her restaurant, but it might have meant after the play has its run. Am I obsessing?
 

Nanette:

No, you aren't obsessing. We all have our favorites here and wonder when they are coming back. No worries : )
 

I don't understand why the enemies of people who are jailed in tns can so easily get in to taunt them.

Nanette- LOL! We all have our faves, and SN is also one of mine. She hasn't posted anything on a new tn, and she seems to be taking a break from them-- concentrating on movies (one is in the can), her restaurant, her endorsement deals, her personal life, plays, and improving her craft. The play will be touring Mexico until mid Dec, and then will be in Mexico City for a longer run in the new year after the holidays.

 

Vivi: I'm happy for her, but you're killing me!! Since I'm still pretty much a newbie, there's a limited number of actors I follow from TN to TN. I like to see familiar faces.

I'll look forward to seeing her new movie. I still have to see the last one with Jorge Salinas. I did see an interesting one with her when I got a free weekend with Encore/Starz or HBO/Cine--not sure which. No subtitles, so I just watched her scenes. It was called Mujer Alabastrina (2006). FYI. There's a cool website that posts when cable/dish, etc. companies are having free preview weekends: www.freepreview.tv
 

Vivi,

Thanks for those pics on the play with Ivan and Silvia. I saw a little about this a few weeks ago. I love Sam Shephard plays--I own the full anthology. Admittedly not for everyone's taste, some can be very dark. True West is one of his simpler, less angst plays. The two main characters are basically the play, so the roles are taxing. I would so love to see both of these actors in this play.

As for the next possible TN, I thought Robo was a remake or rewrite of Amor Real? There's also La Madrastra hitting soon...though as much as I love Cesar Evora ( is that man in everything lately????), I am NOT a fan of Victoria Ruffo. Not sure what Tn goes where or if they will play one of their Univsion musical chairs games and switched up some other current shows.

Daisynjay
 

You're welcome Daisynjay. I haven't read a lot of Sam Shepard plays, but from what I know, they are dark. I read the synopsis of the Fool for Love/Locos de Amor and it's dark for sure-- incestuous love between a brother and sister, not happy stuff. But SN and IS look great together!
 

Daisy: the info I have is that Robo is a modern day remake of Amor Real.
 

My hope about Vero's visit is that they'll be recording whatever she says to use against her. She'd be likely to spill a little too much info in her gloating...
 

Since Vero is becoming more confident, more bold, and more unhinged with each new success, I'm sure it's just a matter of time before she overplays her hand.

Vero will probably make a great impression on all the guards at the prison... too arrogant to realize that they will eventually be her keepers (unless one of her thugs kills her first).
 

I'm worried about Cynthia. Vero is a dangerous enemy, and she isn't being sneaky enough. She should have tried to get Vero out of the house while she looked for evidence (without letting on that she was involved, of course). She was lucky this time, but she should have at least claimed some reason for why she was acting nervous and having issues. Some personal medical problem or something.
 

I don't know if Cynthia was lucky. I think Vero got to the hallway just in time to see the bathroom door closing.
 

Right, when Cynthia should have already been in the bathroom for a minute or two. Vero may remember that if she finds out a photo of her victims board has gotten out.
 

I am going to protest outside Televisa, or Univisión because I want

No more pregnancies
No more hospital
No more jail
No more killings
No more kidnappings
No more crying
No more jumping on the bed!
 

But evil twins and amnesia are still okay, right?
 

And thwarted suicides?
 

Thanks, Mads! Clever and fun. And I'm just happy YOU got the multiple pregnancy storyline instead of me...
 

...although I shouldn't get smug. I'll probably draw something WORSE than breast milk and umbilical cords.
 

Alma MAY HAVE called Marta/Marcia after hearing from Chatita that she was the one who pushed her down the stairs. Maybe she meant to confront the loony in her ladylike "don't mess with my family" way, but just to warn her to stay away or to tell her she was on to her and would turn her in (as protagonists are wont to do in tns and give away all their advantage). Then when she was out like a light, Veronica made all those other calls to Marta from Alma's phone. Alma may have played right into Vero's hand accidentally.
 

Anon, I was thinking something along those lines too. A fairly innocent phone call (warning) that, by unlucky circumstance, sounds like a death threat.
 

Anon 7:33:

Good theory! It makes so much sense. I didn't think about that way : )
 

Oh, and Anon 7:33:

I don't know if you have commented before, but welcome to Caray Caray and this crazy TN.
 

I'm feeling really confused about the Mexican legal system: Do people really get sent off to prison before they've even had a trial?

I understand why Chucho is trying to get Suarez to investigate, but shouldn't he and Alma's lawyer be gathering evidence for the trial? I would think that the evidence they already have would be enough to generate "reasonable doubt," but maybe cases don't have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in Mexico? (Or maybe this is just an extremely unrealistic depiction of the Mexican criminal justice system.)
 

I think in México IT IS the opposite as here.

Here, you're innocent until proven guilty, and

In México, you're guilty until proven innocent. weird, right?