Tuesday, December 10, 2013
Lo Que la Vida Me Robo, December 9, 2013. Capitulo 15.
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Darn, it didn't take long for Refugio and Esme to wade into the quagmire of misunderstanding. Why don't people just TALK to each other? I know, I know...
It's interesting that Monse and Alejandro are having similar experiences dealing with their mutual "families". Ale walked into a snake pit when he hooked up with Monse's family. By the same token, she really doesn't know what she's getting into with Ale's staff/friends. Padre and Dominga seem to like her, but Maria's no friend and I shudder to think of Juvie's plans for her.
Thanks Gloria! This is an excellent recap and I appreciate the great details. They are very helpful.
Thanks so much for this fabulous recap! I too laughed when Monse and Ale got to the hacienda. I thought she lost her fan, and was too afraid to go back and look for it.
If I were Refugio I would have misunderstood too. I hope that Esme gets back home in time to tell Refugio all she found out.
I don't like Maria right now. Ale told her twice that she is only a friend, like a sister to him, yet she keeps asking, why did you get married. She needs to clean her ears with a Q tip, she must have a bunch of wax up in those ears! I feel sorry for Monse cause I think Maria will be nasty to her.
Juvie is a real perv. I can't stand him, stabbing Ale's picture, sneaking in Monse's bedroom and thank goodness Ale came when he did! I bet, not a spoiler, that Juvie is the head bandito in those parts. I am glad the Padre turned down Ale's offer of Juvie being his escort. I am also glad that Juvie will not be the Capataz of the hacienda. Oh, and now Juvie has jacked a watch. Let's see, Don Benny's ring, Gaspar's medallion and now Ale's watch? I'm keeping count of all the Bloody Baubles he is stealing.
JL is a dunce for sure. He scared poor Nadia half to death. I really think she only helped JL out because she thought of her own loveless marriage. He is the same as Ale in a way, wanting to drag Monse off to parts unknown.
Ale was hawt in that daydream shower, I must say, sigh!
Can't wait to see what happens tomorrow night with this "end of Monse's bargain", Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
I had to laugh when Juvie was committing pillowcide! That was hilarious to me. You could see the dust flying!
I haven't developed any sympathy or empathy for Jose Luis and if he does go over a cliff as the avances seem to show, I won't even feel bad for him.
My, there was a lot of sweating last night! Juvie, Refugio and JL were perspiring endlessly. As you noted Gloria "creepy Juvie" was at his loathsome worst last night -pillowcide (good one Anon) included. However, may I make a request? Please, let us not have to endure another scene of Juvie eating/molesting fruit? I fear barnyard animals have better manners.
"If you let yourself be sold and bought, it wasn't to be a pretty figurine in my home. But to give me kids and a family. He grabs her off the bed and says that he has completed his part of the bargain". To say I am dismayed with Ale is an understatement. Let's hope he does not force himself on Monse.
Sylvia: "Darn, it didn't take long for Refugio and Esme to wade into the quagmire of misunderstanding" was a gem. Is it fruitless to hope they will be able to rectify this before the car plunges over the cliff (from the previews, not a spoiler).
Maria is a pest - ITA Madelaine. She is obsessed and not going to let things go with Ale even though he has told her repeatedly he feels like a brother to her only.
I did enjoy Monse's high heeled ascent to the house and Esme toying with Dimwit. If only Esme had told Refugio her plan before she put it into motion.
I'm looking forward to tonight with a little trepidation - but this is sailing right along and am thoroughly enjoying it.
Thanks again Gloria!
Diana
Loved how Ale put Juvie in his place (even though we know it won't last, Juvie didn't get what he thought he deserved)
Ale was even better with Maria. He told her straight up where she stood. Yep. Maria is tone deaf, but how nice to have a galan who is not ambiguous with his words.
Loved the scene with Ale telling the wonderful padre what he really thought of Monse. The segue from anger to "mi amor, we were just talking about you" was perfect. So very nicely done!
The shower scene. Oh my gosh. That one is a keeper for endless replay.
Rulli is Rocking It. I agree that it is an excellent pairing of actors with Rulli/Boyer,but I sometimes find it hard to get past Boyer's pursed little lips and this funny lisp she throws in there every now and then.
Oh, and did I mention Rulli's beautiful eyes?!
Thank you, Gloria!
Fatima
So, little dismayed by the ending. Let's hope Ale doesn't complete the Tarzan routine. Just not in character. I know he's angry, but really? Thinking good thoughts, thinking good thoughts...
Maria is becoming a whining pain in the butt. I hope we don't have to listen to her bitchiness and whining constantly. Go clean something...
Are we supposed to be understanding and possibly supportive of JL at this stage, because he's just lame. And I agree with everyone on the unappealing sweaty, dirty look. realistic yes, but blech!
Daisynjay
Wow, that was quite an episode. Money is going to be singing "How Do You Solve a Problem like Maria" for sure. Marie forms the last part of the love rectangular...the two leads and the two people who want them. Action !!! I do like Maria's capris...very perky.
The actor playing Juvie has pulled out all the stops to portray a very creepy person. Creepy Mccreeperson. This is certainly a cringeworthy performance, and he is playing the despicable character that he is carefully constructing with gusto. I got a kick out of him flopping on Money's bed. YIKES..this guy has nerve..sneaking in to his jeje's wife's room while she's in the shower.
I should have realized that the previews of Ale sharing Money's shower was a daydream. I must comment on his denim shirt with the handy snaps......my.oh.my......where was I ? Another daydream ! I want him to wear that shirt for the remainder of the novela.
Here's a thought....What if Dim was cleaned up a bit and playing JL ? He would be handsome if someone tweeted his unibrow and combed his hair. He would probably provoke some sympathy for the character because he has a softer , gentler look than the guy playing JL. Then, Refugio could be in the Dim role because I think he could play a n'er-do-well. The guy playing JL could then be Refugio , the rescuer.
I think the Esme character in AR was a prostitute?
Is the Dominga character in this the the same as Damiana in AR?
I remember the "bathing" scenes in AR were quite different and in keeping with that setting, along with a very hawt one between Matilde and Manuel, a little further along in the story.
In Amor Real, Manuel claimed his marital rights at the inn on the noche de boda on the trip to his hacienda. Matilde would not eat after that night. However, when they got to the hacienda, Matilde had her own bedroom. Just like last night's previews, Manuel grabs Matilde and tells her that he wants a son. He also tells her that he will let her go if she gives him a son. This plotline works when the novela is set in the 18oos , but I think that in today's world, a handsome, rich guy would just move on to any number of women who would like to give him that family.
Thanks to all the commenters, too. I have to agree with Fatima's comment that the shower scene is worthy of endless replay (have already watched additional times on Youtube!) and laughed at Susanlynn comment about the dark denim shirt with the handy snaps. I am enjoying his wardrobe choices, too.
The bathing scenes in AR were super, super H.O.T. thanks for those images on this cold, winter day as I look out at the snow falling on this snow day.
What's bugging me at the moment is that Alejandro should fire Juventino because he can't trust him. If he was never able to trust him before he has no reason to delay doing that now (other than creating another plot point).
Can JL be any LESS attractive? What's up with all the sweat? He looked like a mad man with Nadia.
I had to laugh when he warned Refugio about subjecting Esmeralda to a life on the run. ISN'T THIS WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO WITH MONTSE???
So the cat and mouse game between Ale and Montse has started.... She struts, he shruggs, she pouts, he clinges. I find them quite endearing actually - Montse trying to fix her hair in the mirror while asking about her "husband" was funny, I'm glad the writers are adding a few lighter moments, showing that Montse is not so distressed as she pretends to be.
She can whisper "mi Jose Luis" until the cows come home, but Ale can stil rock that denim shirt like it's nobody's business...
The guy is HOT!
The sweat is very realistic and I can't help but feel for the actors who look like they are sweltering. I always wonder how they manage to keep the female actresses looking cool and fresh, even in the hottest conditions.
Adriana- I agree that Monse can continue to moon for JL all she wants, but she is definitely attracted to Ale and interested in learning more about him and his life. I'm looking forward to these two finally having a heart to heart talk and clearing up a few things.
Juvie was beyond disgusting. I too wondered why he had that pic of Ale. Looks like he's abused it a few times before. He's definitely jealous of Ale. And who wouldn't be? I was very happy with the fantasy shower scene. Let's hope they make it a reality sometime soon.
I refuse to believe that they'll turn Ale into a rapist. I don't care what happened in the previous versions. They can't possibly think that would fly with today's audience. Even from the previews it looked like Monse was giving into her hormones, not being forced. If they do have sex next episode, I hope they are both very willing participants.
The Esme character never met the Refugio character in AR, so this is a brand new storyline. The Esme character, however, did reappear later in AR.
ITA w/Diana and Vivi and hope that the writers will spare us from martial rape.
Juvie continues to be scary. His entitlement knows no bounds. I hope his anvil is big and really hope Maria finds out he killed her dad.
Juvie really gave us the grand tour of his character--flopping onto the owner's bed, helping himself to more jewelry, raping the fruit and generally swaggering around. He's not only rude and crude, he's crazy.
A word about what Refugio overheard --
Yes, he misinterpreted Esmeralda's feelings for himself and for Dim, not realizing she was just playing Dim to find out where Alejandro had taken Montse.
But from what Esme said, Refugio realized that she was the mystery woman who had convinced Montse that José Luis was a habitual dirtbag.
So we can call the first part miscommunication, but the second is a damning revelation of truth.
My favorite moment in the episode:
Montse climbing onto the bureau so she can see herself in the only mirror in the bedroom and comb her hair. Nothing in her new environment measures up -- or down -- to her.
Vivi, thanks for your condolences on the death of my coffee maker. It was a freebie from Gevalia and has served us loyally and well for several years. I was impatient and made myself a cuppa instant coffee. Then, I unearthed our old, retired coffee maker for hub. Yes, I saved it for an emergency , and today was an emergency. The clutter cutters would have gotten rid of it, but then they would not have their coffee this morning.
To distract yourself from Juventino's ravishing of innocent fruit and delivering fuetazos (lashes of the whip) to innocent pillows, listen to what he does to the Spanish language:
As he slashes Alejandro's photo, he mutters:
Tú no eres NAIDEN, NAIDEN
(apparently 'naiden' is slang for 'nadie.')
When he is rubbing María's nose in Alejandro's choice of a beautiful rich girl for his wife, Juventino says the rich always choose the más mejor (the 'bestest' or the 'most best')
Ale isn't firing Juvie cause he is Maria's Tio. Ale is all about family it seems. If it wasn't for that he'd make him leave the hacienda. I too think Ale will come to regret this decision.
Susanlynn:
How funny! I too have a back up coffee maker ; ) I had the same problem you did a couple three years ago, and kept an old one "just in case" and boy was I glad I did. Ya never know when you might need one ; )
Vivi:
Is it bad up there? We are getting rain here, with some flakes mixed in. We dodged a major bullet. West of us, in the mountains they are getting lots of snow.
I loved the way José Luis was lurking behind the shrubbery while Nadia was speaking to Graciela on the phone -- as if to keep Gracie from SEEING him.
And when Josefina fixed Dim with her look of worry and disappointment at his abrupt departure, I said to myself:
"Here's a girl who really COULD knit her brows."
I live in the Mid Atlantic States south of Washington, D.C. I love the winter. I am an Army brat, and so traveled all over the country and Europe growing up. I have shoveled my share of snow, and learned to drive in it too. It's the people around here that don't know how to drive in it that always concerns me. They think snow, let's drive 60 miles per hour. I cannot tell you how many accidents there are around here after a snow storm. I keep my car in 1st or 2nd gear and if they want to pass me I let them.
Why is it that the creepy, greasy bad guys like Juvie always seem to grab a piece of fruit - last night it was a peach and then drip juice down their chins and hands. Yuck! Ugh!
Anyway, the pillow needed beating. Look how much dust flew out.
Best shot - Alejandro's backside in those tight jeans as he walked into the bathroom where he lead us on into thinking we were going to see something special. Walk on, Romeo.
After seeing Ale shirtless and comparing him to JL's behavior: Ale is a stallion and JL is a cockroach. Who will step on him? And if Ale, yummily virile or not, "insists" on his conjugal rights, he will become the target of much hate from Montse and this board!
Lila
Haven’t read the recap/comments, yet—I did watch the ep last night. I wanted to reply to comments from yesterday. One thing I will say about the ep. I took a good look at SR for the first time. He’s kinda handsome, isn’t he? ;)
Thanks for all the compliments on the list. I enjoy doing it.
OT: re: The Paradise. Loved it. Couldn’t even finish Selfridges.
Madeleine: I loved Silk, too. I’m also a big fan of Ripper Street, which is on BBC America. If it got renewed, the new season should be starting soon. Don’t care for Copper, though. Also love The Hour. I’m a sucker for BBC programming--especially historical ones.
Nanette
What a superb recap! These last few episodes have been so important in setting up the story and you gave us every pertinent detail. Thank you so much.
Montserrat trying to walk up the Hacienda steps in her skin tight dress and heels. those steps do looks quite steep.
And I agree with Mads that Juvie is the head bandito of the neighborhood. His performance in Montserrat's bedroom was a parody of twisted sadistic menace. My skin was crawling. Combined with his pillow-murder I am convinced he should be locked up. I have said this before but I SO hope they do not show him hurting the horses.
Daisynjay# 'And I agree with everyone on the unappealing sweaty, dirty look. realistic yes, but blech! ITA with you, old friend, and all.
All I can think of is that it was extremely hot and humid in Campeche when they were filming? Just a thought.
Vivi: ITA that a rape will not work in this setting. As a story device for a galan it would never work for me, even if we were talking about filming the life and times of Glug the Caveman.
Susanlynn! Your coffee maker just died on a SNOW day? Now, THAT is tragic. Can you make your coffee in individual filter cups? I am deeply worried about you having a freezing indoors day without the beloved java. (Warm hug.)
OT - Weather- I feel chagrined even mentioning weather as a Californian, although my birdbath froze last night. We don't know for weather here, really.
I grew up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains near lake Tahoe and we had lots of snow. Many feet would accumulate over the winter and most houses had an upstairs entrance to allow ease of entry in the winter. But a cold day would be in the low teens, and mostly we would have huge dumps of snow and then sunny skiing weather until the next storm. All the locals knew how to drive in the snow, but the skiing tourists were always a menace.
We knew SNOW but my sister who now lives in Lake Minnetonka, MN said that it was 26 degrees BELOW ZERO yesterday. The kids still went to school. The only concessions the hardy folks of the upper midwest seem to make to cold is that if it is 10 degrees below zero or more, the kids do not go outside for recess. At 9 degrees below zero, out they go.
Guau!
EJ
Great comment, "Montse climbing onto the bureau so she can see herself in the only mirror in the bedroom and comb her hair. Nothing in her new environment measures up -- or down -- to her."
Over time, I have reluctantly come to appreciate Boyer as an actress. She is awfully good, I confess. I thought she did a great job in the scene with the Padre (that old HAM Eric del Castillo) when she couldn't figure out where to sit or what to do with herself.
Speaking of cold, amiga, I hope you are keeping your gloves and hats at the ready. If you find yourself in need of facial protection, we could always ask for Juventino to send up a couple of balaclavas to sell in the 'Me Robo Country Store'.
So far we have Creme de Agua Azul and Balaclavas and several of those off-shoulder cotton tops that Maria wears. Anita?
EJ
But the question remains unanswered, what was he doing with Ale's pic in the first place? Maybe the small photo was included as part of the "Welcome From The New Jefe" packet that Ale distributed when he took over the hacienda?
bunch.
Interesting that they show JL so sweaty, while in contrast Ale is immaculate. I kept looking at JL's shirt to see if the stains were sweat, dirt, or jelly.
Yay, Ale is too smart to have Juventino as capataz and would rather hire someone brand-new. Wonder who that will be and if it's anyone we've already met.
I sure hope Esme and Refugio clear the air soon. She's pretty smart and they need help. Surely she didn't slime up to Dim for info about Montse in vain.
I have great sympathy for poor JL sweating all the time. That's how I felt the last couple of weeks when I was in La Paz and temps were in the high 90's Fahrenheit. And all the fans we see on the telenovelas? I could not find a one in town. Anywhere. I've picked up a supply here to take back down with me. Campeche is near the Yucatan and I know it can get extremely hot there.
I can actually understand what Juvie was saying ; ) Since I use a lot of slang myself maybe that's why I could understand him.
Neice in MD:
I so agree with you about Ale looking cool as a cucumber. He looks the best out of everyone! No sweat on his brow.
Nanette:
I too am a huge fan of BBC America and BBC World News. I am always checking to see what is on there, such interesting programs. I too watched Ripper Street.
It is almost impossible for a woman to transition from "friend" to "great love" and Maria hasn't learned that lesson. She has had reason to be creeped out by Juventino, as does her mother. I wonder whether Monserrat's presence will make that better or worse.
Elna June....yikes..in my gratitude journal today, I promise to write, " I am thankful that the temps here seldom go below freezing." Those children in MN must be hearty souls to go outside for recess in such cold temps. I feel like a wimp. As for driving in the snow, I had a bad accident right after I got my license when I was 16 and was thrown out of the car .Three months later, I met Hub , and he did all the driving , so I have always been a chicken about driving, especially in bad weather. Also, I made instant coffee, and then! I unearthed our old coffee maker for hub's breakfast.
Well, I must continue my Christmas cleaning and recharge this Ipad if I want to continue to check out the Caraycaray fun from time to time.
I'm glad I realized ahead of time that the shower scene would be a fantasy, so I could enjoy it instead of thinking he was a creep. I don't think he will actually force himself on her. Maybe yell and scare her a little, but actually raping her would make him irredeemable in a modern show. Plus, I just don't think the character is bad enough to do that even in an angry hormonal fit.
I'm liking AB's acting in these hacienda scenes. So awkward and uncomfortable.
Poor Refugio. I hope Esme catches him before he leaves and tells him what she was up to. I also thought Carlota should call Nadia and tell her where Money is. Not that I really want JL to be able to hunt her down, but I don't want Graceless to succeed in keeping her daughter isolated.
I'm getting a real kick out of watching the hilarious creepiness of Juventino. I couldn't believe that when María whined that she didn't have anyone, Alejandro pointed out that she still has Uncle Juvi... I'm sure that was very comforting for her.
I can't believe that JL managed to convince Nadia to help him. He seemed downright scary to me.
I too thought the scene between Padre Anselmo was very entertaining and very well done. He was also great when Alejandro told him about getting married.
Another great bit of acting between Josefina and Dimetrio. I think that they make a cute couple.
Carlos
Sylvia: Maybe the small photo was included as part of the "Welcome From The New Jefe" packet that Ale distributed when he took over the hacienda? OMGee hahahahahahah!!! You are killing me today!
I am so happy for the change of scenery at the hacienda vs. Mommie Dearest's casa back at Agua Azul. And Boyer and Rulli are born for their roles: they are a couple so attractive/attracted to each other, they're going to find it hard to stay mad.
Thanks again to you, Gloria!
So I'm wondering...maybe if they show her responding physically in spite of herself...and then pushing him away and ranting and raving afterwards. And he'd do the ol' Clark Gable Walk of Shame and we'd have another Love Desert for a while...Him keeping his distance, her getting confused about her feelings. You know the drill....
So, my guess is they do it with Montse being a reluctant participant - you know, just laying there, telling him she'll be thinking about "mi Jose Luis" all the time; or, like you said, she'll like it in spite of herslef.
I definitely don't see it play out as a rape scene, with her kicking and screaming the whole time - Oh, I really hope I'm right!
You make a good point about Gone with the wind - if I had a nickel for every romance novel that has violent heros....
Someone who watched AR recently could maybe refresh my memory on this: didn't Matilde say at one time that she kind of liked it?? That she felt something? I might be way off, it's been a while since I watched the tn.
Maybe Money will decide to go along with the bargain and bite the bullet as she thinks of England.
Amor real was made about seven years ago, so this novela may be a bit more politically correct.
Maria is just driving me crazy. She’s completely dense. Begging for a man? Not pretty.
The shower scene was very HOT!! Rulli definitely brought it.
Loved the exchange between Padre Anselmo and Ale. Padre seemed hurt not being invited to the wedding of his little one.
Cannot wait for tonight.
On the disastrous boda night, yes, it was awful. But basically good people do awful things, in certain contexts. If you can't forgive terrible mistakes, you're in for a lifetime of pointless bitterness. Matilde forgave him. And he forgave her. And ultimately, all these telenovelas end up stressing the necessity of that.
I enjoyed the interaction between Padre and Monse. At last, someone she feels she can trust. For now. And I loved Padre's reactions to Ale's news bombs..."Que?????". It was so natural and true to life. I really appreciated Eric del Castillo's acting props. Nothing like an old pro, and by old I don't necessarily mean age. I mean experience.
Interesting discussion about the husband demanding his marital rights. I am VERY curious how the scene will play out tonight.
I just watched some scenes from Amor real on YouTube. WOWEE, that Fernando is muy caliente. Ernesto looked like such a roué in that role of the brother. ...great casting in that novela.
You are so right. Good people do bad things...bad people do bad things. You have to let it go.
Great re-cap, thanks so very much. I really enjoyed your straightforward and descriptive writing.
ITA-Loved the scene with Montse going up the stairs in her tiny, tight dress and tacones (heels). Imagine if she were on the run with JL. Like I said before, she wouldn't last long.
Still annoyed by Maria, and even more creeped out by Juvie. I guess he's planning on opening a joyeria soon.
Great scene with Ale, the Padresito and Montse. Very HOT scene in the shower. WOW! Is that a preview of what's to come?
Interesting the way it ended. I never saw AR, so I am not sure how to feel about Ale taking his marital rights.
Adriana Noel, ITA, I can't see it playing out as a rape scene. My guess is that she just won't say no. Can't wait for tonight's epi.
Susanlynn: Have you thought about getting a French Press for your coffee. They are great.
Back to work...Hasta pronto!
Maybe in this modern remake of AR it will be Monse who is always in the shower, as opposed to FC who was always taking a bath. Hopefully Alejandro will do more shower scenes. Yowza!!
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