Saturday, May 31, 2014

Lo Que La Vida Me Robo #143: 5/30/14: Ritorna A Me



Ahoy, Amiguis! Mr. Mads and I took a mini vacay this past week. I am all rested up, have read all the recaps. I want to thank Urban, Gloria, Eli and NovelaMaven for all their fantastic recaps this past week. I am so happy to be back, communing with all of you again. Now on to the recap. I know Y'all are just salivating to find out what happened with this episode and the humdinger of an ending. Shall we begin with an earworm? This song is especially dedicated to Monse and JL, Starting All Over Again.

Ale is pacing the hotel room waiting for Monse.

Pobrecito JL, falls down the stairs and injures his foot. Dimi and Refug help him up the stairs.

The flowers and champagne arrive for this night of lurvvveee Ale has planned, and I echo Carlos, where is the rose petals and come on, no chocolate covered strawberries, for shame, Ale, for shame.


Dimi and Refug bring that accursed dresser to Dimi and Monica's new abode. Refug explains about JL's tumble on the stairs. Refug now wants a beer and Monica is about to make a beer run, when Refug sits on a box and breaks the glasses there in. Oh, snap! Monica gives him the stink eye!

JL is in the marital bed with his leg elevated on a pillow. Monse is acting very nervous, hmmmm, I wonder why????? Monse wants JL to go to the hospital to have his foot checked out. He's not going, he's just very happy that Monse is with him. Monse makes an excuse to go kiss Lolo (Laurito) nighty night, while Rosy tends to JL's foot. Rosy is applying an old recipe poltice on his foot and it's killing him. He's in so much pain, he bites down on the pillow he is cradling.

Ale is still nervously pacing that hotel room and he's anxious that Monse still hasn't shown up. The time is now 11:34 pm.

Rosy is now done tending to JL's foot and Monse has made a pharmacy run for some pain meds for him. Monse returns with the pills, and Rosy assures him, these pills are very good and potent, well not potent, but very good and will help him sleep all night! Monse tells him to take two of them, which he does, and gives the pills back to Monse. Rosy and Monse just look at JL.

Fablush is having a naked eye moment, on her bed, without the obligatory wine glass. She is remembering that convo she had with Graceless. Y'all know, about Sandho and about Ale possibly being alive. She sits and thinks.

Oh, look, it's Graceless and what is that strange substance coming from her eyes? Hmmmmm?????? It's her crocodile tears or some semblence of them. Graceless is now crying over mi hija, that would be Fablush, when Lotty comes into the room. Lotty wants to know why Graceless hasn't come down to dinner and why is this strange substance coming out of her eyes???? Graceless isn't hungry and her children have left her all alone! Lotty thinks it's a good thing too. Monse got remarried, and Dimi is moving in with the woman he cares about, but Graceless doesn't see it that way. She is upset that her children have distanced themselves from her. I wonder why???? Lotty suggests that Graceless repent, like maybe a ti te falta Jesus, well not that, but repent. Graceless tells Lotty to largate and leave her alone. Lotty just goes. Graceless continues to cry over mi hija!

Ale can't stand the waiting, so he calls the front desk, he's in room 169 and he wants to know if a woman stopped by the desk and asked for him. Nopis, no such thing. Ale tells them if this woman does to let him know. He hangs up the phone in frustration and he hums this nice earworm Ritorno A Me, well not really, but it's a great earworm.

Addled is having a naked eye moment on his sofa in his living room and he's thinking of that kiss he had with Fina, earlier in the day, when BM comes home. BM lets Addled know she is back to dancing at La Esondida, oh, that's what she's calling it? Addled tells her that Ale is near and will probably be talking to her soon! She is so overjoyed she hugs Addled.

JL is very woozy from those pills and asks Monse to come on up and sit with him. She does as he asks, but is not happy about it. He's very sleepy and thanks Monse for caring for him, and that he loves her. She says she knows. JL tells her he's a very happy man, Monse can't even look at him. Monse tells him to get some rest. JL doesn't want to be seperated from her and he hugs her legs. Monse is acting like he's got the cooties. She won't touch him, and JL wants a promise from Monse they will be to get her 4 eva! JL has passed out and doesn't see the look on Monse's face.

















Ale is pacing that room again, thinking Monse isn't coming. He turns down the bed, turns off the lights and is going out the door,when he encounters Monse at the door. He's overjoyed, she was able to make it. He offers her champagne, which she is happy to get, cause she needs it she says. Monse remarks on the decorated room which she seems to like, it's romantic she thinks. Ale says he's been waiting for 5 hours. Wow, just wow, man. Monse is looking very uncomfortable about now. Doesn't she want to be there, Ale asks her? Of course she does. She giggles, he smiles.











JL is passed out on the bed and sprawled across it, just as Monse left him, when Rosy comes in with a jug of water and notices that Monse is gone. She sets the jug of water on the bedside table and goes to Lolo's room. He is fast asleep, the little cutie, still with his glasses on. Rosy tucks him up, removes his glasses and tells him that his Mama and Daddy are together right now, as she cries tears of joy. She tells Lolo his Papa is very near.

Back to Monse and Ale. She explains she never cheated on Ale. He plies her with champagne, but she doesn't want anymore. She wants to talk about infidelity, the one she is about to commit. If she does this, she will be betraying everything. Ale asks if she'd like to go. No, she'll stay. She has an immense love for Ale, that they are victims of destiny, no matter the consequences. Monse wants his kisses, his body, he is the love of her life, make that the grand love of her life! Many besos. We'll get back to them in a tic.

Esme and Refug are now home from the moving event. Refug is sore and dead on his feet, his muscles hurt. He gets into bed and blows Esme a kiss and turns off the light! Oh, snap, Esme is so not having this. She has things she wants to say, by gum! She turns the light back on, much to Refug's chagrin and she wants a chat. It has to do with his macho stuff. He says Monica is his boss, and Esme is about working outside the home again. Esme wants Refug to accept her the way she is. Esme also feels that Refug isn't loving her like she wants. She turns off the light, she's had her say!

Ale and Monse undress each other, many besos, they must have cut it, cause we see them get into bed, besos and that's it. So Monse has committed infidelity. Now it's daylight and Ale wakes up alone. He finds Monse has gone and he's sad.

Back at JL and Monse's, JL wakes up alone in the bed, looks around and Monse is sitting there fully dressed with a tray. she explains that Rosy took Lolo off to school. Monse gives him juice and asks about the foot, how is it. Same, but a bit better. She still wants him to go to the hospital to be checked out, but he still isn't going. Not much they can do, but bed rest. JL tells her about the poltice that Rosy applied last evening. Now we get to the nitty gritty. Monse wants JL to calmly listen to what she has to say, cause she has made a decision.

Monse tells JL, the only other guy that has been in her life was Ale and now JL. Monse says she accepted to be JL's wife. But now it isn't the same anymore, and she wants him to understand that. JL is looking puzzled. Monse wants happiness and Rosy comes upon them and tells Monse she needs to speak with her urgently. It's somthing with Lolo. While at the school, the teacher was talking to Rosy about Lolo and she needs to tell Monse. JL is wanting to know now, cause he is concerned. Rosy assures JL that it's personal and only for Monse to handle and then takes Monse off.

Vic and Ale are having a convo at Fina's. Ale tells Vic he spent the night with Monse. He explains about his Mama Rosy, taking Monse to the church and how he told Monse what had happened to him. Ale also explains that he told Monse about being in a coma and the swearing before the altar of Dios, how she declared her love for him. We'll get back to them in a tic.

Rosy tells Monse she needs to speak with her. Why is Monse about to tell JL the truth, about Ale being in Aguazul and out of his coma. There is danger in that. Monse thinks that JL can help Ale again, but Rosy doesn't agree. Monse wants to tell the truth, she spent the night with Ale. Monse feels it wasn't the right thing to do, Monse must have a guilty conscience, but Rosy tells her not to tell.

Vic asks Ale how he is feeling now. Oh, he's over the moon and feels complete. Monse went back to her hubby though and Ale can't stand that, cause Monse is with JL. Now Ale gets pithed and says JL robbed him of Monse and his familia. Okay, Ale keep thinking that, cause if you knew the truth, you'd take it back, jus' sayin'. Oh, and for those of you that think Ale is still Monse's husband, no he isn't. He was declared dead and her marriage to JL is perfectly legal, just as Peddy's marriage to Amelia is perfectly legal, where his marriage to Nadia is over with too. Nadia just doesn't know that.

Monse is telling Rosy, she doesn't really want to cheat on JL. Rosy reminds Monse that not only is JL the Police Chief of Aguazul, but now her husband. He wields a lot of power now and could kill Ale. Monse reminds Rosy that Ale is the big love of her life and she feels JL doesn't know a thing about Ale being back and out of the coma. Monse says this betrayal of hers is very hard, because JL gave up so much of himself for Ale and Monse to be happy. Monse really wants JL's help in clearing Ale's name, but Rosy tells Monse that JL spent seven years in the prison, and this could have changed his point of view and not for the good. Monse actually thinks this situation is exactly like the one at the hacienda, back in the day, but the grooms are reversed. Rosy just wants to protect Ale and Monse will resolve this somehow.

Monse goes back into the bedroom and JL asks her if everything is okay with Lolo? Yes, it's just day dreaming in class. Now Monse is going to go off for some bidnez, when JL asks her what she wanted to talk to him about? She gets some water and sits down, she is looking mighty peaked, I must say! She says it's nothing. JL puts two and two together and comes up with four! Is Monse preggers, is that what she wanted to talk about? He is so excited, he crawls off the bed right over to where she is sitting. He asks her again if she is preggers. Shock and awe on Monse's face!


AVANCES:

Rosy slaps Graceless!

Ale won't accept a bebe from another man y punto!
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Good Morning Y'all

Please enjoy the recap and I hope I did it justice ; )
 

Madelaine, you sure did do this episode justice. Your running commentary along with the recap is perfect and most important funny. Thanks for the laughs this a.m.

Poor JL! He looked like a dog last night. First looking up at Montse from the bed; then falling asleep on her lap and finally crawling across the floor when he thinks she is pregnant. Yes, Madelaine, Montse did act like he had the cooties. The actors were so good it was uncomfortable to watch.

What is Montse to do? Sort of hard to back peddle from this dramatic "relationship changing" announcement she was going to make. Thanks, mama Rosario, for nothing. Is Montse going to lie to JL and sneak around behind his back? I hope she doesn't let him think she is pregnant. That would be very cruel. I think she needs to tell him the truth and make sure Ale is out of town so Ale is safe and JL is not conflicted or revengeful in his job as police chief.

Jarifa


 

Madelaine - Terrific recap. You came back from vacation and hit the ground running with a juicy episode. Loved why is this strange substance coming out of her [Graciela's]eyes?

Ale, now it's your turn to "prove" your love. Ha! Can you love Monse's moreno baby? Somehow, I don't think this is going to bring out the best in our "hero."

Somebody, please give JL a cane. It was painful to watch him on the floor looking up eagerly at Monse, so happy about having a potential baby.
 

Sound like you had a wonderful time with the hubby, but we're selfish and so glad to have you back Mads and giving us your always wonderful recap. This was "park the coffee" stellar.

I'll jump right to the last of the developments... NO NO NO and NO. Yes, our fab Carayites predicted this preggers plot line, but c'mon. Can't TN writers be unique and put some thought into something NEW once in awhile? And of course, we'll have Ale being an ass because it's JL's and Monse being all weepy and JL being....well JL. The horror. I'd rather watch Laurito play with his car.

Watching JL being such a pain in the foot with refusing to go to the hospital, came off to me like a spoiled, stubborn little kid. Guess that he was his idea of being macho. And I'll admit it, and apologies to the JL fans out there, but seeing him put his head in Monse's lap and then she shows up at Ale's in said same dress, my first thought was " lucky girl, the sweat and grease spot didn't show."

I'm done with both Esme and Refugio. Have that baby already and let her spin around the pole. Don't care anymore. These two are getting too shrill and boring to me.

"why is this strange substance coming out of her eyes???? " Weeping for all the lost intrigues she can't perform without a child to use. Carlotta should save her breathe and go stock up on her waterproof mascara for herself. She'll need it soon.

I'm actually not looking forward to next week. Will love to see everyone's reactions though. Off for Saturday errands. To borrow a phrase...Will get back to you all in a tic.

Daisynjay
 

Good Afternoon Y'all.

Jarifa:

Thank you kindly. I tried to make this funny, cause this TN is irritating me. Why, oh why, did the writers do this to JL? I agree with you about Rosy. Why is she doing this? I say tell JL the truth and let him deal with it. I wonder if Monse IS pregnant and will tell JL that she is not. Oye vey!

Niece:

I have to say, recapper's moment of truth, I kind of nicked the line about the strange substance coming from Graceless' eyes from my favorite episode of "Seinfeld" when he actually cried just the one time : ) I so agree with you about the bebe, cause there is no doubt this time, whose bebe it is. I agree with you too about JL and the cane. He looked so pitiful crawling on the floor.

DaisynJay:

Thank you so kindly and I am really liking the parking of the coffee mug, that was my intention ; ) I laughed at your Lotty stocking up on her waterproof mascara, you are so right on! I just can't believe Graceless was crying and over Fablush, que, que, what????? Or is Graceless crying over her misspent youth? All the money she could have had? Oh, and Graceless' "mi hija" is starting to sound like "el cheque es mio", from El Tal ; )

 

Ale is bugging me again. I know, I know he is all that and a bag of chips, but please, stop the JL robbed me part. Ale knew that Peddy was behind all this stuff about sending him to jail, that's why he fled Aguazul after all, he just doesn't know that Graceless had a hand in it too. I want to see what he does when he finds that out.

Also did he really expect that Monse would never sleep with JL after Monse and JL married? What bothers me so much about Ale's constant rant about JL is, did he never stop to think Monse went along? She could have said no, but she didn't. Maybe Ale thinks JL is some type of Svengali or something? Ale is always forgetting that if it weren't for JL, Ale never would have found out what was being done with his lands, ya know the drugs, and that due to JL's snooping, JL was able to save Ale's life, not just once, but three times! And JL was shot by Ale and JL dropped the charges, and when push came to shove, JL went to the prison in Ale's stead. Ale just needs to grow up, make nice with JL and start to prove his innocence already!
 

Excellent, Madelaine. So good that you're back. Your descriptions and clever narrative vividly capture last nights events and moods.

I don't care for Alejandro or JL and I find it extremely annoying that both seem to feel the need to share details of their intimacies with Montserrat with their friends complete with suggestive leers.

Seriously? A couple of broken toes and JL can't even hobble across the floor? I laughed out loud... so much for Rosario's magic balm.

Because I was suspecting Montse's likely pregnancy (two straight weeks of nightly boinking and no apparent intervening natural event? Do the arithmetic.) I was hoping that she'd skip the Champagne. We know how Alejandro and JL will receive the news, I'll be interested to see how Rosario, Graciela, and Carlotta will react.

Well, it's time for María to selflessly come to the rescue, step up and hand over the original will. I think the chances of that are very good (I can dream can't I?).

Carlos
 

Carlos:

Oh, yes, Maria will have to step up with that will. I wonder how she will do that? This should be interesting.

Oh, yes, about the TMI with JL and Ale. They should have kept the details to themselves and let their friends use their imaginations for pity's sake!

This pregnancy will be interesting. I too want to see Graceless', Lottie's and especially Rosy's reaction. I just hope there are no hissy fits, or forehead thumping. That would so not be cool, or any pressure for that matter. From the avances, it looks like Monse will have some crap to deal with!
 

Madelaine, so glad you had a nice vaca and are back, happy and rested. You are always missed when you are away.

Earworms, perfect as usual. You blended humor, insight and wisdom into a delightful concoction. Excellent recap. "Oh, snap! Monica gives him the stink eye!", "Fablush is having a naked eye moment, on her bed, without the obligatory wine glass" and "It's her crocodile tears or some semblence of them were among my many favorites".

As disappointed as I am in Ale and JL right now, I am more so in Monse. "Monse actually thinks this situation is exactly like the one at the hacienda, back in the day, but the grooms are reversed". Astounding! Is she simply naive? She seems oblivious to the fact she is hurting others which could end up inflicting great hurt to others, intentionally or not.

Am I wrong or did Monse and Rosario urge JL to take one more pill than he actually needed? I cringed at that scene. And while I won't fault Monse (or her obvious lack of taste) for the fact she loves Ale, she did not need to go running to him. They have been apart 7 years, a few more days would not have made a difference. Whatever JL has or hasn't done, he certainly deserves better than having his new wife slink off and cheat on him.

Watching JL clumsily crawl to Monse when he thought she was pregant was painful. Yes Niecie, "Somebody, please give JL a cane". Jarifa, I also didn't want to watch but simply could not look away either.

Daisy, I am wondering when Esme is going to have her baby. Will Monse beat her to it?? :)

In terms of the pregnancy, I am shuddering imagining how Ale is (not) going to handle this. I could never support the character due to so many reasons, but this will cause him to be even more unlikeable and simply unworthy.

Madelaine, you made a difficult episode bearable by your magical writing and calming words. Thank you.

Diana
 

Diana:

Thank you kindly. I loved your phrase about Ale being unworthy. Right on Amiga! I think Monse is riddled with guilt though. Her facial expressions were very good this episode, but she did end up cheating. So sad. She has got to find some way to tell JL that Ale is out of the coma and in Aguazul, before someone else does it for her. Then it will be really bad. As bad as JL keeping the truth from Monse about Ale being in the coma, which I'm sure, will come to bite him in the butt too.
 

This was a humdinger, Mads. You rock!
Loved:
-Oh, look, it's Graceless and what is that strange substance coming from her eyes? Hmmmmm?????? It's her crocodile tears or some semblence of them.

-Monse is acting like he's got the cooties.
(Haven’t heard that word since 4th grade. Love your recaps, Mads.)

Yeah, they must have cut out the Monse/Ale love scene.
However, just before the scene, Monse talks about all the times past when JL wanted her to do this same thing (escape to no-tell motel) with JL, but she was never unfaithful.
Ale says but if “you leave now you’ll be unfaithful to our love.”
Pu-leeze!! He might as well say if she leaves now he’ll have trouble with his kidneys!! They are like two kids sneaking out on Prom night.

Quick! Take the Tiki Torch, the citronella candles, and the pot of begonias out of my hands before I throw them!

And Mads, your comments later re: Monse-“Maybe Ale thinks JL is some type of Svengali or something?”
Right, it takes two to tango, and really, I am beginning to think Monse can’t let go of anything.
I am seeing your comment, also, Diana, I couldn’t agree more.

I think in the advances it looked like the pregnancy was in jeopardy. Already.

 

Hello, Robo-ers!!! :-)

I just wanted to let everybody know here that, if anyone is interested in Televisa's NEXT offering they have for us, 'La Gata' (which will be replacing one hour of DQTQTQ when it finishes in June, I have been watching it since it began and have posted a (what turned out to be rather LENGTHY) sort-of 'precis/introduction' as to what it's like so far (it IS a Nathalie Lartilleux production, so I know everybody's GOT to have some reservations of SOME sort...).

So, for anybody interested in what's looming ahead for us in the future, next-telenovela wise, do please visit the most recent DQTQTQ post and have a gander at my postings!

Best wishes to all for a great weekend,

Stevey :-)
 

Thanks, Mads, for that detailed recap.

I was very disappointed in Ale sharing his moments with Mony with Victor at the breakfast table the morning after the night before. Gee, it was like listening in on a locker room conversation between the high school quarterback and his best bud. ....the big, satisfied grins.....Victor's joyous raising of his fists. Score !!! Touchdown !!! Geez , boys, you are not in high school anymore.

Watching JL slide across the floor to sit at Mony's feet and ask if she was pregnant was ..odd. He is getting more and more pathetic.
 

I can't find it in me to feel sorry for JL, he brought this on himself, he was well aware of the fact that Alejandro was not DEAD and he kept this information from Montse because he KNEW that if she learned the truth there was no way in heck that she would agree to marry him. What's that saying again? "Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it".
 

Dear Madelaine! How wonderful to read your FANTASTIC recap on a Saturday afternoon!!! You NEVER disappoint. :)

I got to watch this last night "live". All I could say was: OY! I told my friend watching this with me that my Caraymates had figured out the next plot line.

Honestly, writers, just how original was that?! In fact, I find it down right B.O.R.I.N.G.

The main characters are losing my interest. JL with his desperation and control and Alejandro with his version of desperation and control. Montserrat just seems like an airhead Barbie with an endless array of tacones! I got a kick out of her with those white tacones trying to help JL when the dresser fell on his foot in the Thursday episode.

Diana, you are not wrong. I think Montserrat and Rosario were literally WILLING JL to take that extra pill. The dope went ahead and did it. I hate watching JL grovel and grovel he did last night. His facial hair is getting worse, too.

I think that some of the secondary characters have much more nuance than Alejandro, Montserrat, and JL. Adolfo and Nadia are the ones who intrigue me right now.

Anywho...this pregnancy thing is NOT what I want to see. Ms. Boyer had stated somewhere that the benefit of having this story drag out was that it allowed for much more "creativity". I see no creativity in this so very predictable pregnancy.

Furthermore, it will be VERY unsatisfying for me if this pregnancy makes it to the end and JL dies as a sacrificial lamb. I did not like this story line in "Cuando Me Enamoro". In fact, I hated it. Gernonimo's lover was a one day stand, but they made this such a big deal when the one day stand died and the Silvia Navarro character adopted those kids. Sorry, not buying it. I hope they don't do it here.

However, I do have one HUGE REQUEST. The absolute BEST part for me last night was that stunning smile that Sebastian Rulli gave Boyer when he opened that hotel room door. HOLY COW! If some guy looked at me like that, I would be putty in his hands. Anyway, could one of our wonderful recappers find a way to extract and freeze frame that shot? I would be SO indebted to you.

That one shot was worth a million! I was grinning from ear to ear!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Fatima
 

Emarie:

Thank you kindly : ) I laughed so hard at your line about if Monse leaves now, Ale might as well have problems with his kidneys, and I am still laughing. I had to put my tea down : ) It's true, so very true. Ale is still of the opinion it is his way or the highway, and sigh, he so needs to get a clue and man up and be a man and have some understanding.

Stevey:

Thanks so much for stopping by. I did read your comment about "La Gata" and I'll see when it comes on.

Eli:

Well hello there! I get what you are saying, but remember he only knows that Ale is in a coma and in a hospital bed in Argentina. He has no idea that Ale is out of the coma and in Aguazul, but that being said, JL should have told Monse what he knew, when he knew it. That point I will agree on.

Fatima:

These writers keep surprising us, so maybe this pregnancy storyline will be handled in a different way. They haven't really done any clichéd things here, yet that is. I can't wait to see where they go with this storyline. I agree with you about Nadia and Addled. I really want Addled to be saved in a way. I really do like Fina and Addled, and that storyline has me intrigued. Also, I hate to say it, Graceless and Fablush. Will Graceless reveal who she really is to Fablush, what will Fablush do? Hmmmmm..........

Susanlynn:

Yes, you hit the nail on the head with the locker room convo. For pity's sake guys, ever heard of TMI? I can picture them in football uniforms just yapping away, and that fist bump, really, just really? Thanks Susanlynn for the chuckle.
 

Madelaine, as much as I hate to admit it, yes, the Graciela/Fabulush (sounds like an eye liner!) "relationship" will prove to be very interesting.

Will Graciela ever tell Fabulush the truth?!

Fatima
 

Mads, thanks so much for another funny and right on the money recap. Well done!

Jarifa, I have been thinking for some time that JL had been looking like a wolf. But you nailed it with your description -- last night he looked like a DOG. And not a tame and faithful dog, but a scary dog, one that could turn on you at any moment. I don't blame Rosario a bit for keeping Montserrat from telling him the truth.

Carlos,

"María" and "selflessly" in the same sentence? Such a dreamer!

As for the speculation about whether Graciela will reveal herself as Fabiola's mommy --

She won't have to. Pretty soon people will guess the truth. She is now in full maternal mode, abusing Fabs in the same way she has always abused her other kids.
 

NovelaMaven, you said: " She is now in full maternal mode, abusing Fabs in the same way she has always abused her other kids."

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Good point!

Fatima
 

Fatima:

I added the pictures you requested. Have a look see and let me know what you think ; )
 

NovelaMaven:

You are so very kind, thank you : )

Yes, pobrecito JL did look like a dog, but a poor puppy dog that is missing his most favorite thing, awwww...... I do agree with you about Graceless and how everyone is gonna figure out that Fablush is her daughter. I never thought Graceless would be so obvious. Good catch NovelaMaven : )
 

Madelaine, terrific recap for a frustrating episode. Alejandro's plan was to make Montse his lover behind JL's back and he accomplished it. What he doesn't seem to realize is what kind of woman this makes Montse. What's even worse is that now all three, Alejandro, Montse and Rosario, are all plotting against JL. Forget that JL spent 7 years in prison to allow Alejandro his freedom and that JL's been nothing but kind to Montse, Laurito and Rosario, those two just gotta scratch that sexual itch. What makes it even worse for me is that Montse argued with Rosario that she had to get on with her life. Montse could have put off marrying JL. There is no honor in this. I'll bet it comes back to bite Montse. Ale will use it against her.

Just have to wonder: After being married to a beautiful free-spirit like Angelica, why would JL want Montse anyway?

 

xIntperuvian:

Thank you kindly. You have said what I have been thinking far better than I could have said it. It's true, that Monse was pressured, but she'd been without a man all that time and she could have continued that way. I really think she wanted a Father figure for Laurito, but JL would have provided that whether she had married JL or not. Ale just wants to get back at JL for supposed committed wrongs. Ale, I am sorry to say, needs to grow up. He is still stuck in a time warp. I have hopes for him though. I just don't like how the writers are handling JL at all. I want to see JL getting back to investigating and meeting a new woman. He deserves a woman more like Angie that is kind and loving only him and not some other man.
 

I was in a similar situation when I was a teenager. A girl stole my boyfriend and I was able to steal him back. Don't judge me, I was only 17. When I stole him back, I wasn't thinking of revenge..... I was thinking, normally, I would have morals, but it didn't bother this chick, when I was his girlfriend, so I'm not going to let her feelings bother me. She poured and cried, but oh well. I wasn't thinking of revenge, I was thinking that she made the rules and I was simply following them. She can't change the game. I think Alex is in that mode. He wants her and J.L. established the rules. He can't be passed over the game.
 

I hate auto-fill. He can't be pissed is what I meant to write.
 

Hola, amigos; regreso.

There are lots of grey areas in the triangle; none of these three are purely in the right or wrong. However, since JL went so far as to not tell Monse that Alejandro was alive before they took their vows, he didn't give her a fair chance at a choice.

He's also caught in a time warp. Seven years in the slammer away from any romantic prospects, so what could we expect other than him being obsessed with Monse?

I can't fault Rosario for wanting to protect her son. She endured 30+ years away from him, had half a one at his side, and then spends the next 7 years thinking he's dead. Admittedly, I share her concern about what JL will do when he finds out that Alejandro is alive and well.

Nobody's mentioned this yet but I'm also wondering whether Victor should trust Adolfo at all. We know that Adolfo has killed, but we don't know how many times. I have no doubt that Adolfo loves Nadia and Victoria, but he might easily decide that Victor is expendable.

Was anyone hoping that Victor would tell Adolfo about Pedro's shortcomings?

Maria is as delusional as ever and Adolfo should be concerned about that.
 

Cynderella:

Good to see you here. I get what you are saying, I really do, but Monse has been following Ale's rules for a long time now. Ale changed the game, so to speak. I know that Ale and Monse are destined to be together, but JL deserves a love of his own, and not some other man's.

Urban:

Welcome back and I'm glad you had your computer issues solved.

I can see why you say that about JL not having mentioned that Ale was alive and in a coma in Argentina. He still doesn't know if it is true. He hasn't seen Ale or in investigated this claim. Now Monse, she knows more than JL at this point, as a matter of fact, Monse is more in the know than JL is. That's why I wish she would listen to her own counsel and tell JL herself. The longer the both of them wait to tell each other what they know, the worse the repercussions will be. And remember that Monse was JL's one true love, same as Ale is to Monse.
 

Urban:

I forgot to mention about Victor trusting Addled, I really think he can. Addled knows how deeply in love Nadia is with Victor and I really don't think that Addled wants to mess with that, so to speak. Addled knows if something were to happen to Victor, it would destroy Nadia.

I have been curious about something with Addled. We all saw him shoot that guy up North that betrayed the cartel to the Navy, but when Addled said this was from the Scorpion, as a message, was he really referring to himself or someone else? Addled does not put in me mind of a scorpion. Just a thought.
 

Pedro wears a scorpion pendant (which I think belongs to SS, who is a Scorpio), so Pedro could be El Alacran. You could be right.

However...

He has still trusted Maria with knowing that Alejandro is alive and in Aguazul. The problem here is that sooner or later Alejandro and Maria will meet somehow and Alejandro can't win in this situation no matter what. He has tried to tell her that he doesn't love her the way she wants and he has done so without being nasty about it. She doesn't listen and just keeps indulging her delusion. If he got any more direct about it he would cross the line into brutal and that would make him a cad(?)

The only thing that will stop Maria is death and we can't be sure she wouldn't come back from the grave to torment him or try to kill Monse. We know she will try that at least once more before meeting her Karmageddon.

Gracie and Fabiolush will continue in the same vein. Maybe they will find out they're related and both die of apoplexy.


 

JL knows by now that the story about Alejandro in a coma was true:

First he found out about Nadia and Victoria from Amelia.
Then he was told the truth by Graciela.
Then Victoria recognized Alejandro from Laurito's picture.
And now he knows Pedro also knows about Alejandro because he went to Argentina to get Nadia by himself.


 

Madelaine!!!!! YES! That's the shot of that WONDERFUL Rulli smile!

I can't thank you enough, dear Madelaine!!!

Fatima
 

Stevey Im not interested in La Gata( Ugh seeing these Trashlands everyday is upsetting ) but i am in La Malquerida,i wonder when will it air cause i could recap it.

I liked the episode by the way.Gracie got what she deserved,thanks Lotty. JL should just let go of Monse because Ale is alive and also because Monse is acting like a Zorra right now,she is even worse then Maria, he needs to start proving Ales innocence ,give up on on that Zorra Monse and get out of Aguazul ,he will surely find someone better then Monse or that viner Fabiola.
 

Great recap, Madelaine. My 2nd time around here. Thank you. My 2cents about Monse is that she is has been portrayed as a way too angelic in character so now the writers are giving her a makeover and show that nobody is perfect and that she is only human. Good acting for Angelique where she shows her uncomfortable position. I would think that she probably won't last long to keep her secret from JL. I would also think now that she won't allow JL to touch her or have to make a lot of excuses to avoid intimacy with him.
As for JL, I think the writers are showing us for reasons I don't know, that he is a coward, cringing at the poultice, even biting at a cloth as if to prevent himself from screaming? Wasn't he in the navy? Really, how bad can it hurt? I'm glad Laurito wasn't around to see him. He will laugh at him. Also, being almost like a lap dog to Monse.How depolarable. Maybe the writers are also doing all these to JL so that viewers will only feel disgusted and rationalize some visible comparisons for Monse.Anne
 

s/b deplorable. excuse my typo. Anne.
 

Anon @ 3:38, I agree that it was strange that the writers had JL cringing at the poultice like a big baby. He certainly wasn't a baby about the pain earlier when he was shot in the gut by Ale, or when he deliberately road his horse in front of Ale to protect him from bandits ahead. Everybody's got a weak spot. Maybe for JL, it's his toes. :D

I used to feel sorry for Monse cause she was bullied by her own mother and had to lie to and please other people to protect their feelings. But I'm seeing now that Monse lacks backbone. She continues to let herself be persuaded by others instead of sticking to what she feels is right. Like when she put on the sexy outfit back in the day at Graciela's urging to get Ale to come back to her and when she agreed to Ale's demand that she take Rosario as a chaperone if she saw JL. And, of course, letting JL rush her into marriage. I would love to see Monse stand up to Ale, something like "I love you Ale, but this is the plan: you're going to leave town now for some secret place for your own protection, while I tell JL the truth about us and get his help to clear your name."
 

Urban:

Interesting about Ale and Maria. With the two of them, it almost seems as if they have unfinished bidness. I will be very curious to see what happens when they next meet. I laughed at your apoplexy line with Fablush and Graceless, I can just see it.

Anon 1:41:

I remember Amelia telling JL since Nadia and Vicky were alive Ale could be alive also. As far as Graceless telling JL or Peddy, he doesn't trust them. He wants to see, I think, with his own eyes and investigate it himself before he'll believe it. For right now, he might believe it, but he wants to see with his own eyes.

Fatima:

You are most welcome : )

Demetrios:

I too think that JL deserves someone better.

Anne:

Welcome to Caray, Caray. Now that's interesting about Monse. It's true she is doing something she wouldn't normally do, the infidelity part. As far as JL goes, he broke two or three toes. Speaking from personal experience, I had two broken toes and it hurts like a well, ya know. The only thing a doctor can do for you is tape your broken toes together and when you try and walk it hurts all over again. JL should have a pair of crutches so he doesn't have to walk directly on his foot. The writers probably did this broken toe thingy so JL would be out of the way, while Ale and Monse have some time together.
 

Niece:

You put up what I haven't been able to say about Monse. That's exactly it! I like what you said about Monse making a decision and standing up to Ale. If only she would : )
 

Niecie in MD, I REALLY like your points this morning re Montserrat. I especially like your PLAN, for it is a good one, indeed!

Fatima
 

I agree that Monse shouldn't have allowed JL to rush her into marriage. He could just as easily have been a father figure to Laurito without that.

Alejandro does need to hide out until JL can clear his name. However, it's going to be very difficult for Monserrat to conceal that she's been with him. Does he know that Gracie perjured herself before a judge?
 

Well Ale is going to have to raise another man's kid, punto. By the way who raised Ale? Certainly not Benjamin. Was it some farm hand? Ale has forgotten?
 

Madelaine,

"For right now, he might believe it, but he wants to see with his own eyes."

Sorry, but I think that the last thing that JL wants to see is a living breathing Alejandro.

Carlos
 

Anon 11:26, Alejandro was raised by Rosario's father. He probably died when Alejandro was in his mid-teens.

Alejandro was 15 when he was in the pickup truck with Benjamin on the day of Pedro's fateful accident. I think that Fulgencio Dominguez had died shortly before that and Alejandro lived with Gaspar Zamudio and his daughter -- Maria -- until he went away to college. Gaspar was a good man and nothing like his no-good brother or daughter.
 

I thought it was funny when Montse first handed the pills to JL, she said,"be careful, these are very strong." Then Rosario said, "yes, when I took them, they put me right to sleep." You could see the lightbulb go on in Montse's head and she said, "but if the pain is that bad, take another!" And el idiota did just that and knocked himself out! Well played, Montse. LOL
 

Carlos wrote: "Because I was suspecting Montse's likely pregnancy (two straight weeks of nightly boinking and no apparent intervening natural event? Do the arithmetic.) I was hoping that she'd skip the Champagne."

I am not an expect on when the first signs of pregnancy show for a woman. But isn't it sort of early for Monse to be dizzy and sick from a pregnancy when she was having relations with JL for only the last two weeks? Yes, she may be pregnant but would she be sick so soon? Perhaps there is a biological time warp in this TN.
 

Mony is JL's magnificent obsession, his Achilles ' heel. Only death will stop him from wanting her. now that he finally HAS her as his wife, it will be hard for Mony to get away from him. It will be interesting to see how Mony avoids sleeping with JL. "I don't want to hurt your little piggies " and "I have a splitting headache" will only work for a while. Now that she has had her night of bliss with Ale, the writers are not going to let her sleep with JL. How will she evade him ? To quote our wonderful Novela Maven, JL's mantra is "Mony , you is my woman now.," He will let Ale know "Finders, keepers; losers, weepers."
 

Madelaine, I loved the recap, and loved all your asides.

The situation is simply not black and white for these 3. They are all making mistakes: Ale wants to stick it to JL, JL is clingy and desperate, Montse has no backbone whatsoever. And now she's a cheater, too, BUT... as opposed to the guys, she knows she's not doing the right thing, that's why she kept repeating herself 'don't overthink it', because she knew she'd stop.
Someone else said this the other day and I totally agree: if my TRUE LOVE came back from the dead, I might just forget about what is right and what is wrong and just go for it - 7 years it's a long time, a few days wouldn't have mattered, but sometimes the heart wants what the heart wants and this is a pretty extraordinary situation.

It will be interesting to see how the story develops, but let me just say that I don't think the baby will make it. It's just a gut feeling, but for now Montse seems determined to go back to Ale. If he rejects the baby, she will reject him and that will keep them apart for a while longer.
I'm curious to see what will Montse come up with from now on to refuse JL's passionate requests.

I actually found the scene where Montse suggests a second pill funny. She was worried for JL but also desperate to leave, so the way she said 'just take another one' and Rosario looking at her and getting exactly what she meant... I was laughing out loud.


 

Urban:

No, Ale has no idea that Graceless perjured herself. She and Peddy really screwed him over. That's why I get a bit testy when Ale constantly harps about JL robbing him of Monse and his familia. Peddy and Graceless did that.

Carlos:

I know JL doesn't really want to see Ale, but ya know, it's the only way he'll believe it, short of a ghostly apparition so to speak : )

Anon 11:53:

Yes, I caught that too. They just wanted him to get his "rest" so to speak ; )

Anon 12:39:

The human body is a mysterious thing. Some women have very early morning sickness and some not at all or later down the road. I can only go by my own experience. I was sick from the third week until my sixth month. I had to change my diet and the Doc gave me something. After the sixth month I was much better. But this being a TN, get yourself a nice tight fitting beanie and sit back and relax and enjoy the silliness.
 

Morning sickness is different for everyone and even each pregnancy in the same person. It can begin and end at anytime from point of conception through birth.
 

I felt lightheaded pretty early in a pregnancy, but I can't remember if it was this early.
 

Anon,

"But isn't it sort of early for Monse to be dizzy and sick from a pregnancy...?"

Yes.

But this pales in light of some of the other medical improbabilities and impossibilities we've already seen.

Carlos
 

Adriana Noel:

Thank you kindly. Yes, you put my thoughts into words perfectly! All three are not all black and white. I see Monse's point and Ale's too, even though I harp about the way they are handling themselves. JL has become pitiful, and I blame the writers. I want to see the old fighting JL back, the one that fights for truth and justice and not revenge.

Susanlynn:

I am cutting poor JL a break. This is the first time he has had Monse to himself and we just know she is going to hurt him. I don't think JL is obsessed, I think with him it is his first true love, just as Ale is to with Monse. Out of the two, I'd say Ale is the more obsessed one. JL has distanced himself from Monse before, for her to be happy, that isn't something an obsessed man would do.


 

I think that Mony got into this situation when she was very young ..19 ??? ...after living her whole life with a domineering, controlling mother. She is still very young...26 or 27. Both Ale and JL are obsessed with her and treat her like a possession. JL reminds me of a first love who just will not let go. Just because you got there first does not mean she will love you forever. You never forget your first love, but he/she may not be your Onetruelove/ soul mate. That person may come along later. The minute Mony laid eyes on Ale, she was a goner. Mony seems as obsessed and infatuated with Ale as JL is with her. She has became PingPong Ball Trophy Barbie. I would like to see her ride off into the sunset with a third guy, but we all know that Ale and Mony will wind up together in the end because they are the two lead actors. Have you ever known someone in real,life who pined after someone who just was not in love with them ? I wonder how much older than Mony JL is supposed to be . I doubt if Mony is his first over because he seems to me to be at least ten years older. There is just " Something about Mony " that drives Jl and Ale crazy. This is a constant them in novelas...two people lusting after one person.
 

Madelaine,

"JL has become pitiful, and I blame the writers. I want to see the old fighting JL back..."

I sympathize, but take heart... look what they did to poor María, reducing her to drug addiction and prostitution. While I'm still not entirely pleased with this latest María (can we just lose that ridiculous blond wig?), at least now she has a backbone and is once more an interesting character to contend with.

While I think JL has always been and always will be a whining sniveler, I believe the writers will eventually restore his innate sense of dignity and goodness.

Carlos
 

Susanlyyn ,well they do say that love is without reason,it just happens...Though it may turn into an obsession but its reasonable,you want that love to last forever "You never expect,it comes from nowhere,love drives you crazy but its love,love is crazy,crazy is love,it may hit you,kill you,for no reason."
 

I think I could take the whining if this character was the same age as Mony... a callow youth...a lovesick puppy. However, no way JL looks like a callow youth.
 

Demetrius..So true.....and if you are very, very lucky, you find someone who is as crazy in love with you as you are with him/her. That is why, right or wrong, Ale and Mony will end up together because they are mutually crazy about each other. Jl will end up sacrificing himself for his Mony.

Last weekend, I watched "Tristan and Isolde" which has a similar theme. ...two star crossed lovers who cannot resist being together. However, they end up hurting someone they both love and respect.
 

Thanks so much for your recap Mads. I really enjoyed your comments about Gracie (that strange substance her eyes are excreting) Ale (his misinterpreting events).

I'm not going to trouble myself with the love triangle but am intrigued whether Adolfo will actually help Nadia & Victor and what are the potential consequences of Maria mess up those plans and others.

I'm enjoying the patio this afternoon as I celebrate another year of life with my family and am thankful for the wonderful people I've meet here.
 

Karen, is it your birthday? I hope you have a wonderful day with your family.

Bless you amiga.

Diana
 

Happy Birthday, Karen, and wishes for many more !!!
 

Karen, amiga! Is it your cumpleanos?

Amiga, mine was last week. :) I think we are both Gemini, yes?

Feliz Cumpleanos!! :))

Fatima
 

I think if Monse has symptoms of pregnancy now at all it has to be from JL; and even at that it's atypically early, but I have known some women to have symptoms around the time the first missed period is due. So two weeks from conception. Which...Well that was about the honeymoon period.
Of course, this is a TN, so anything is possible.

I mean, how many of us have known anyone that had a fainting spell when newly pregnant. It does happen but not near as often as on telenovelas.
 

Thanks Fatima and Diana. Yes it's today.
 

Karen:

Very Happy Birthday and may you have so very, very many more, amiga : )
 

Carlos:

Now I know how you have been feeling this whole time at the Maria table. Thanks so much for the encouragement and I hope there is some hope for you also. One can hope, si?
 

Madelaine,

Gracias for the excellent recap. Sorry, I am so late to the party but I was extremely busy all weekend long. I just wanted to make sure to let you know that your work is always appreciated.

Glad to see Montse and Ale together again. I thought it was interesting that during the love scene they seemed to be looking at themselves in the mirror while they took each others cloths off. Did anyone else notice that?

Anyway, Montse is not thinking. She can't actually believe this is the same situation as the one at the hacienda. And there is NO WAY JL is helping Ale out. JL WILL put Ale in jail, and he WILL NOT let Montse go. I think we are about to witness the dark side of JL.

BM is delusional! The only reason Ale would go see her would be to ask about the Will. I wonder what she'll ask for in exchange? Hmmm. A night with Ale? What does she think? That if Ale sleeps with her, he'll magically forget about Montse. She's got problems, but what else is new.

Fatima,
ITA, I had to rewind and watch SR flash those pearly whites again. Damn that boy is good looking!

Need sleep...hasta pronto!
 

Maria is going to demand that he marry her.

If Alejandro is thinking with his entire brain he will realize that the DNA test that denies he is an Almonte was falsified. A good lawyer can get the entire matter out in the open to prove that he is an Almonte with a new test done under the appropriate conditions. However, that doesn't absolve him of the murder accusation.

At this time the only person who knows that Gracie and Juventino did the deed is Gracie and she won't fess up. I don't think that Maria knows this because while Juventino did his best to make her into his female self I doubt he would have trusted her with this information. She knew that Gracie was Don B's amante, but may not have taken the leap to see this as a motive for murder. Alejandro also knew that, but didn't' know enough about her at the time to suspect her.

He should be wondering about it now because her perjury in the judge's office nearly cost him his own life in addition to his fortune.

On a related front:

Maria told JL that Pedro put a price on Monserrat's head but thus far it doesn't look as though he has thought this through, even after spending seven years in the clink. What is killing me is that Adolfo knows she was the shooter because the bitch fessed up to him and he isn't doing anything about it. This is why I don't see Adolfo achieving redemption.

Maria may possess the document that restores his fortune, but he doesn't really care about the money. That document might not be enough on its own to exonerate him from the murder accusation.

He does not love Maria and he knows she is delusional. He knows nothing about Maria's attempts on Monserrat's life and I doubt she ever made any actual threats within his hearing. The one thing she's done that could make him realize this is the attempted kidnapping of baby Laurito.

The writers also need to pay off his earlier statements about him feeling like her brother.
 

But then what could Adolfo possibly do against Maria,now that he knows she shot Monse,Report her to the police? No,too much risk,Peddy could discover her. implying if Ezequel would spoil the beans. He cannot tell Monse anything even if he wanted to,because he has to protect Maria and the document. He also cannot tell Dimitrio anything because of their "strained" friendship ,also because now Dim is the Liutenant of the Navy.
 

Adolfo missed the opportunity to get the will himself by approaching EZ to ask him if they can safely take Pedro down now. EZ could have Maria arrested on suspicion on the basis of Adolfo's word for her confession. JL would have loved to handle that one himself, especially if he would remember her visit to him in the slammer.

Pedro had no motive to kill Monserrat. If there were no Gracie or Dimitrio he might have done it to demoralize Alejandro on the way to the final destruction, but in view of Dimitrio being a naval officer and Gracie a greedy bitch who would sell and resell Monserrat to any high bidder he would put himself on the line, which Pedro never does.
 

Belated happy birthday wishes, Karen, I hope yesterday was a great one for you.

Could someone remind me again what evidence there is that Alejandro might have murdered don Benny? I know that an autopsy revealed that he was poisoned and that Graciela told the judge that she always suspected that it was Alejandro who did it, but that seems like a pretty flimsy case unless someone else comes forward to implicate him.

Was he actually charged with murder before he fled with Victor and Nadia?

Carlos
 

Yeah i agree with everything you said Urban.Simply Adolfo cannot tell anyone of Marias true motives because his life is in peril too.Addie was ordered by Peddy to kill Maria.When Peddy founds out that Addie and EZ disobeyed his orders its going to be a disaster,especially if he finds out that the will is in Marias possesion. The will can put Peddy,Gracie,Fabiola,Sandro in jail and Peddy would do anything to destroy the document because it is a crucial proof. Just like Sandro said ,he should have destroyed it it carries too much risk but instead Peddy kept it just in case Sandro and Fab would attempt to mock his "services" . If they dig deeper Addie could go in jail ,he has two murders on his back.EZ could go to jail too due to what he did with Maria.

Also today supposedly La Malquerida begins airing,i might do a recap tommorow but the problem is i begin a temporary honorary at an employer organized by the school,the whole program lasts 3 weeks and i dont know if i will have time to write but i will try my best !
 

Carlos,the evidence was mostly planted i think,they must have opened the remains of Benny and put some poison in the blood. However i always thought that Bennys death was suspicious,i think Juvie was poisoning Benny to fasten his death under the orders of Peddy/Gracie but Juvie also had an ambition to obtain the fortune himself.
 

Dear Mads,

I'm late in commenting but just wanted to say thanks so much for the very funny, detailed, and informative recap. It's always a pleasure to read your work, and the songs you add are also fantastic.

Looking forward to this week on our show!
Best always,
Julia R.
 

Benjamin was poisoned by Juventino and Gracie. It's just that an autopsy isn't routine when the death looks like it could be from natural causes. I don't think Pedro had a motive to murder him, since he would have been likely to go in on the drug scheme Pedro was planning.

The fact that Alejandro refused to sell him the land he wanted and that Benjamin would have sold him is what triggered Pedro's vendetta against Alejandro. He wasn't yet looking to obtain the entire ball of wax.

There is zero physical evidence that Alejandro murdered Benjamin. This would never stand up in any US court of law. Gracie's perjury would only arouse suspicion under normal circumstances but the planted forged documents were already in play by the time she was in the judge's chambers. Pedro removed the archival copy of Benjamin's final will and any other copies of it burned in the fire started by Sandro after he killed Alejandro's lawyer.
 

Demetrios:

La Malquerida is airing in Mexico, it isn't airing here yet. Until it airs here, Caray, Caray won't be doing recaps. That is considered to be a spoiler.

Carlos,

Yes, Ale was going to be charged with murder and that's why he fled. EZ followed Ale to arrest him and tried to stop him from going by shooting at the plane. Peddy did say they had done an autopsy and found poison in Don
Benny's system. Graceless is the one that said Ale "could" have been the one to do it. Graceless insinuated that he may have done it. Peddy just ran with it, cause of the autopsy. You know Peddy, always flimsy all of the time. In regard to Don Benny's lands. While Don Benny was alive, Peddy had a bidnez arrangement with Benny and had used some of his lands before. Benny was going to sell that remote land to Peddy at some point, but when Benny died, Peddy moved in for the "kill" so to speak. It's only hearsay evidence against Ale, all except for the poison they found in Don Benny's system.
 

Julia R:

Thank you kindly and it looks to be an exciting week : )
 

UA,

"There is zero physical evidence that Alejandro murdered Benjamin."

Thanks. This is what I thought. I was afraid I might have missed something. If I were Gracie, I don't think I'd want don Benny's death scrutinized too closely.

Carlos
 

Aunty Ann:

Thank you kindly. Yes, Monse isn't thinking. She is gonna be stuck between two men that can't stand each other again! It will be interesting to see how she handles them, this time around. As far as JL going to the dark side, we will have to wait and see what he does. It would be odd if he just caved right away, as in, here Ale is your woman, you can have her back. I can't see him doing that right away. I think he will have to come to the realization that Monse doesn't love him like that and has always only ever loved Ale. He knows this deep down, but refuses to deal with it. If he does go to the dark side Monse will hate him forever. I don't think he really wants that.
 

Madelaine, the problem here -- and in other novelas -- is that men don't see that women are thinking beings whose feelings count and who have the ability to make choices. Both of these guys are acting like she's an inanimate object. That may have been culturally acceptable in 1900, but not in 2020, which is the year it should be now in the story (Somebody dropped the ball somewhere on that).

I'm sure that if it comes to a confrontation about it, JL might convince himself that Monse wants to be with Alejandro just because he's Lauro's father. He doesn't want to see that Alejandro is her grand passion.

Alejandro is insecure now because he's behind another 8-ball as well. The idea of Monserrat being pregnant by JL will bother him big time and -- given his circumstances -- we can't be too upset with him over that.
 

Urban:

You are so right on both points. As far as the time line, has there ever been a TN that is so far ahead in time? And you are right about the storyline being more in keeping with 1900 instead of 2020!
 

Urban/Madelaine, maybe the "Tundra placement" has ruled the timeline. Seriously, continuity issues really are annoying. That is something the writers needed to address at the start. GuessAle will have to be happy with the "old" Tundra of his dreams in 2020.

Jarifa
 

I don't know whether the 7-year time jump was in the plan when they began writing this series. It should have been thought about at least 20 episodes into it because the pacing of the story was no slower than that of the previous two versions.

The only novela that could have jumped into the future that I remember was El Clon, either version. I don't remember whether Lucas or his dad had cell phones in the early part of the story. The women's clothes and hair didn't look 1980s at all. There was a 20-year difference between the opening episode and the second half of the series and I didn't see any major fashion changes for anyone.

The writers of Aurora, Telemundo's failed attempt at a sci-fi novela, were very careful about making sure that the 20-year time jump between her being put on ice and revived later landed the main part of the story in 2010, the year the series debuted. Science fiction is one genre where you can't mess with stuff like that. It's too bad the rest of the writing wasn't what it should have been.
 

Thanks, Urban, for the telenovela history which is fascinating since I have been watching barely 2 years.

Jarifa
 

Thanks for the wonderful recap!

I guess that since JL is now the police chief he has to help Ale clear his name, because it is his duty. If he wasn't, although he helped in the past he would have no obligation or inclination to help him now. Especially with Ale going behind his back to seduce his wife. JL wants to bring down Pedro and EZ and of course that would help Ale but not necessarily bring out the whole truth.

Now that Montse has cheated on him, I assume will continue to do so behind his back, lied to him, I don't think he will want to help her this time.

I'm a bit upset that both Montse and Rosario are treating him this way. He has treated Lauro like his own son, they both know how much he loves Montse, and he has shown great respect to Rosario, a woman who continues to look at him like he's the devil waiting to pounce. He has saved Ale's life numerous times, took full responsibility for a crime and went to jail so Ale could be free and Ale still hates him. JL deserves so much better than all of these people who are so selfish.

JL at least has shown he will sacrifice himself for the ones he love. Ale got on that plane without his child, Montse or mother. More concerned with saving himself. He has never sacrificed anything for someone else's happiness. I'm sick of these people.

Sorry for the rant.
 

"JL at least has shown he will sacrifice himself for the ones he love. Ale got on that plane without his child, Montse or mother. More concerned with saving himself. He has never sacrificed anything for someone else's happiness. I'm sick of these people".

Very interesting assessment Carvivlie and very well stated. I totally agree with you. JL is far from perfect but you are so right - Ale hasn't sacrificed for another's happiness.

Diana
 

Carvivlie, you're wrong about Alejandro being selfish there.

He delayed the departure so that JL could bring Monse, Lauro, and Rosario. He had no idea what had happened. Victor and Nadia's lives were in greater danger than his own, which was why they left just barely in time. Monse, Lauro, and Rosario weren't in any real danger that he was aware of. We all know that Monse's life wasn't in danger from Pedro, but from Maria.

Had they escaped safely, he would have had the dinero to help them escape even if he needed to send a private security team to get them.

As for Jose Luis doing the time, this was only possible because nobody could prove who burned the money. Victor could also have ended up in the slammer because he was there as well.

Don't even get me started on the fact that JL should have been in a Navy brig rather than a civilian prison facility. That would have changed his situation.

As for how Rosario is treating JL she has some justification. JL knew that Alejandro was alive on the morning of the wedding day. He failed to tell Monserrat so she could choose to go through with the wedding or not. He knew she didn't love him the way he wanted her to and this was very unfair to her.
 

Carvivlie:

Thank you kindly and I really liked your thoughts, they are the same as mine, about JL and Ale. Ale hasn't sacrificed for Monse at all. I so agree with that. I don't know if he ever will either. So well said.

Urban:

You may be right about how Ale left, but about JL going to prison for seven years, he actually went to prison for Ale so Monse and Ale could be happy. That is why he fell on his sword so to speak and took the blame. JL has gone above and beyond for Ale and Monse both. I think the title of this TN is more geared to what JL has lost, cause so far he's lost just about everything.
 

Urban: Rosario has been treating JL poorly way before she or he had any inclination of Ale being alive. She looks like a scared or extremely sad kitten every time he was around.

Sorry but Ale still got on that plane. No matter what he thought he could do afterwards he still left them behind. He could have just let Nadia and Victor go.

JL took the blame for the burning money for everyone, Ale and Victor. Neither has expressed a great amount of regret or thanks to him. He sacrificed himself for Ale and Montse to be happy. Also, he sacrificed himself by pushing Montse away and making him hate her. He ruined his reputation with the woman he loves to get free of her, willfully pushing her away. Further, Ale could have been in jail for shooting JL but, again, JL was the bigger man.

When has Ale ever done anything in the interest of someone other than himself? I just can't come up with one.


 

Carvivlie, Ale helped fugitive Alvares (JL) escape from the police and he divorced Monse so she could be free to choose, but I agree he has made no sacrifice on the grand scale that JL has made over and over.

But seems like Ale's chance to be a better man is coming when/if he gets Monse's baby news. Will he think of Monse first and all she must be going through to be in love with one man but possibly pregnant by another? Will he reassure her that he still loves her just as much and will love her baby too? Or will he have a "me me me!" hombre fit?
 

Carvivlie:

I give Rosy a pass. I don't like how she treats JL either, but she is a sad kitten, cause of what has happened to her, the years in prison, her thinking Ale was dead, and now he is back again. She does want to protect her son.

Niece:

I don't think Ale divorced Monse so she could choose, he divorced her believing the bebe she was carrying was JL's. Only after he had the ADN (DNA) test done, did he feel like the biggest fool. He did ask her to choose, but that was before the divorce and I agree he did help JL escape from the cops when JL was going to be arrested. As far as Ale taking this "preggers" news well, that is if Monse is really preggers", I don't think Ale will take it well. I keep remembering the first time around. We'll see how well he handles this time around.
 

Carvivlie,

First let me say that I find very little to admire in either JL or Alejandro. Both are immature, selfish, and dishonest. I would like to say that Victor is more admirable but unfortunately he is so incredibly stupid.

Even while he was being so self-sacrificial and headed off to prison, JL confided to Refugio that he intended to eventually possess Montserrat. He had also vowed that he would never accept the inheritance of Angie's fortune yet began spending it freely as soon as she was dead and he still is.

But to your question:

"When has Ale ever done anything in the interest of someone other than himself?"

He did give Montserrat that divorce thus freeing her up to make her own decision as to what direction to proceed with her life. Perhaps he was aware that wasn't much of a risk but I don't see JL making that same offer at this point.

Carlos
 

Carlos:

Yes, you bring up a good point about the money. Seems the situation is reversed. This time JL has all the lana and Ale has none. The only one benefitting from JL's largesse is Graceless. Aside from some clothing and the honeymoon, how has JL been spending his lana? Seems he moved into Monse house, and he has a job now. JL isn't throwing the lana around. Course JL isn't supporting Dimi, or giving Graceless tons of moola, like Ale did. Hmmmmmm...........
 

Madelaine,

"I don't think Ale divorced Monse so she could choose, he divorced her believing the bebe she was carrying was JL's."

I think you may have mis-remembered the whole divorce thing. Here are the words of one of my favorite recappers about that divorce:


"We start with the refried of Ale, Monse, and the blurred bebe butt changing scene... As they they are leaving each other, that would be Ale and Monse, lots of besos (kisses), te amos ( I love you) and mi amors (my loves). Tia looks on and smiles. Monse tells her Ale signed the divorce papers and she couldn't be happier."

Of course this tends to prove that perhaps it wasn't all that big a risk or sacrifice for Ale (as I mentioned in my earlier comment).

Carlos
 

Carlos:

Okay, I cave. But he initially wanted the divorce because Ale thought that bebe was JL's and that Monse had cheated on him. As a matter of fact, that scene you put up, was AFTER the ADN test, when he knew that bebe was his son.
 

Madelaine,

"Course JL isn't supporting Dimi, or giving Graceless tons of moola, like Ale did."

Supporting Dimi?... No.

Giving Gracie tons of moola?... Wellll, I don't think we know what the cost of a Montse was this time around, but he certainly is essentially purchasing her on an installment plan.

Carlos
 

Carlos:

I cave, I cave. I know JL id paying Graceless. That's the one issue I have with JL, but he did tell her, he was paying Graceless to stay far, far away. Not that it matters, she isn't staying far, far away is she? He should cut her off, but that then opens a whole new kettle of fish. You are quite right, he is making monthly payments to her isn't he ; )
 

Madelaine,

Sadly... he is.

The bright side is, it looks as though Graciela may be finding out that she has another daughter she can sell... I wonder how much she can get for a slightly soggy Fabiola... do I hear any bids?

Carlos
 

JL started off this novela losing his honey and his position in the Navy, but he has had some good luck since then. He has a loyal friend who risked everything including his life to help JL. He had a lovely woman fall hopelessly and completely in love with him and leave him lots of money. He was reinstated into he Navy and had all charges against him dropped thanks to Angie's Tia Pru. He got the job as chief of police as soon as he got out of jail..que. ? So...JL has had some pretty great breaks along the way bedsides suffering the loss of his mujer and making sacrifices for her.
 

Hello everyone, just barely catching up on this one after a weekend of celebrating my daughter's 11th birthday, and spending quality time with the family. First of all, thanks Madelaine for your wonderful recap. This Friday's episode had me on the edge of my seat.

Will she or won't she go to meet Ale in the hotel? Will she tell JL the truth? So much packed into one episode and its interesting to read everyone's opinions.

While I understand Ale and Montse's midnight re-union, I too wished she had dealt with it less secretively because now JL is going to be the one feeling betrayed, and is only going to make it that much harder to let her go. Much less if what the advances are showing is true, and she indeed is pregnant with a little JL.

Urban and Adriana Noel, I'm agreeing with you about this being a not so black and white situation with the triangle. Everyone has made their mistakes and its about time they all start growing up and taking responsibility for their part. Ultimately, I'm for Ale and Montse being together because they really love each other. But I also don't see JL falling for anyone else, he has loved Montse for way too long and won't even entertain the idea of someone else taking her place.

Now in defense of Ale, although he does have his faults, I don't see him as being self-centered. He has given things up, like Carlos' prime example of giving Montse the divorce, even after he knew Laurito was his, he unselfishly let her go so she could make up her mind. He had no way to know after all he had done to her, that she would pick him. He risked losing her if she chose JL.

Also, as for leaving on that plane, if the police had not arrived shooting at everyone, I doubt he would have left. He most likely would have let Nadia and Victor go, and hid until he could take his family with him. I don't think he had much choice, it was either get on the plane or get shot or arrested. And seeing how everything was turning against him, he could not have had the certainty that if he had stayed, Pedro would not have offed him instead of putting him in jail.

Maricruz
 

Maricruz,
ITA with your comments on Ale. His plan blew apart when BM decided to shoot Montse. So if you think about it, this is all BM's fault, and Gracie's too. She pergured herself, which made the police go after Ale. So if Gracie had kept her mouth shut, and if BM had not attempted to kill Montse, this TN would be over. Where is Padre A? I think he's alive. He needs to come back, like yesterday.
 

Madelaine, Fabulous job, you are always on your best game with these recaps. I had just returned Friday from a week in the northern NM mountains west of Taos at a meditation retreat with no electronics so this plot seemed perfectly insane to me. Where did I leave my foil beanie for tonight. But, I so enjoyed just now reading all the fascinating 99 comments of my fellow patio partners. Ready to stomp into the mainstream tonight.

I think JL and Ale both need some time on a meditation mat. And Monse perhaps to the nunnery. They all have compromised the truth but then the other characters are even farther from nobility. Coming out of noble silence has left me speechless, I will try to catch up...
 

Maricruz:

Thank you kindly and I like your whole comment.

Aunty Ann:

Yes, Graceless is responsible and wait until Ale finds out, I can't wait for that!

Cheryl:

So good to see you here, and I hope the meditation retreat was fab. I agree that Ale and JL both need some meditation! I laughed so much about your tin foil beanie.
 

I think that J.L. could fall for Fabulous if she could clean up. We all know that she's going to. Once Alex discovers that she is his sister, they will become all loving with each other because they were both raised with no one. She will then become a suitable mate for J.L. Hopefully, he lives long enough. I'm specking. Not a spoiler.
 

Fabiola will have a long time to clean herself though and she will also have to spend some time in jail to repent for her crimes( Profiting from a falsified will). Maybe she could get some years off if she testifies against Pedo/Gracie/Sandro. I higly doubt that Fabs will accept Gracie with open hands after all the evil Gracie has done to other people.If she does open her with good hands then idk we have some mentally challenged writers or Fab can never be sober.. I hope she destroys her ,humiliates her,throws her out of the house in a fit of rage just may she not accept the Shameless one with open hands!

 

I have tried to follow you all. Very interesting read. This show was aired mid last year to early this year in my country - Nigeria. So I looked forward to your recaps to let me know what was happening, what had happening etc. You all did a fantastic job and I most sincerely commend you. Cultures differ but stories on love, greed, revenge, betrayals and the like are commonly related.

The show was a huge success here in Nigeria. The plot good and the acting superb. And your recaps and comments like I said before were beautifully done. Well done.

Eka.
 





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