Wednesday, May 14, 2014
Lo que la vida me robó, ep. 130, Tues., 5/13/14: Don't Tell Montserrat
Labels: robo
I was only worried someone would try to make them play an instrument.
Then for Maria, the TN treats us to a withdrawal scene that mimics that scene only found in the 60's film "The Valley of the Dolls".
Of course they're going to medicate her.
Is she standing in line with other patients getting a little methadone for detox?
No, she's strapped to a bed in a padded cell getting who knows what injected into her vein.
TN medicine strikes again.
What I don't understand is if they give their patients medication, why do they have to be in padded rooms strapped to beds?
If Nadia is legally dead is she still Pedro's "mujer"?
Loved the quip about Graciela and José Luis doing what they could to keep Montserrat from making a crucial life decision HERSELF. Yes, Meddling seems to be the main activity of all telenovela characters, good or bad.
Other favorites:
Adolfo uses his indoor voice (and it doesn't bother me a bit that he killed the pimp. Does that make me a bad person?)
THE LOW MORALS DIET José Luis looks lighter somehow. Perhaps it's the effect of leaving his scruples behind.
sandy-haired viper [what a perfect description of Graciela!]
begins with a completely gratuitous round of insults [that's my girl. gotta love her consistency]
Graciela shows her teeth (greeting or display of aggression)[I know where I'm placing my bet.]
Pedro declines a gossip duel
LISTLESS IN ESCONDIDA [for some reason this cracked me up. is it a play on that movie titled "something, something" in Las Vegas?]
AFTER A LONG DAY OF MANIPULATION, MALICE AND MENDACITY [shades of Jardinera!]
and also Emarie's favorite line...
[And what if it's an all girl orchestra and the boys have to go in drag like Tony Curtis and Jack Lemmon in Some Like it Hot? We know they've got the legs for it.]
Which brings me to my sad confession. There was quite a discussion yesterday (welcome, Maggie) about which flawed galan we should love more) and I must admit I love neither (though I once was enamored of Alejandro) I have been unfaithful and sought solace elsewhere....in Eleazar (Marcelo Cordoba) in De Que Te Quiero Te Quiero. So far he's been noble and a rescuer in the best sense. I'm afraid our two fellas here have been all too flawed.
But not the recap. It was superb! Thanks NovelaMaven.
I am truly wondering now whether JL is officially on the dark side. He doesn't yet know that Alejandro has recovered and Pedro's spies in Argentina seem to have been dismissed if he doesn't yet know this.
Unless I'm mistaken, didn't Graciela get Pedro to agree to off Alejandro? Which means he's likely to find out about his recovery just as he leaves Argentina.
Where to begin? "The Low Morals Diet", "José Luis looks lighter somehow. Perhaps it is the effect of leaving his scruples behind" (oh dear, did that hurt!), "She pokes her own head, perhaps wishing to emphasize the outrageousness of his act, but sensing that it would be dangerous to poke Pedro himself", and "After a long day of Manipulation, Malice and Mendacity" were exceptional.
Your thread is always intriguing and I cannot wait to see what you have to say next!
JL has lost clarity and judgement. I am crushed that he has not told Monse about Ale. He is cognizant that what he is doing is wrong. He can stubbornly continue to profess what he is doing is for Monse's best interest but it only for his own. While I sympathize for what has befallen him in the past, he is trying to recapture something that faded long ago. He lost Monse when she fell in love with Ale. When she finds out he knew Ale was alive and did not tell her, he will lose her forever.
That said, UA, I'm perishing the thought JL is on the dark side. I would say (and fervently hope) he is in a gray area but will soon see the light.
For now, I'm sitting with Judy at Eleazar's (Marcelo Cordoba) table sipping something light and frothy.
Esme and Nadia have my complete sympathy at the moment. I am hoping for Ale and Victor's swift return and rescue of Nadia and Victoria. I am also hoping (but less sure) that Refugio will get a clue and take his wonderful wife in his arms and give her the love and attention she deserves.
NovelaMaven, sending sunshine and hugs your way. Thank you for making my day sunny and happy.
Diana
You started my day with a good laugh.
That was my favorite scene when Gracieland Oedro both thumped their own heads.
Will anyone tell Montse that Alejandro us alive before the wedding?
OR
Will Alejandro arrive before, after or during Montse's wedding?
Jarifa
And I wish I started watching Te Queiro...had been at a bad time for me, which made me sad at the time precisely for the reason it had Marcelo. I don't watch the TN, but I would sit at his table any day. I agree, both these "galans" drive me batty, but right now JL is bordering on falling off the "galan" ledge. I always felt a "all about me" vibe from him and it's in full swing right now.
If you truly love someone, you don't manipulate things to your favor and lie to them as he is doing. This is all about him again. And his new found wealth seems to have made a less than admirable man out of him as well.
Honestly, is this some sort of trend to make the supposed good guys in TN's so unlikable or brain-dead ( I'm loking at you Refugio)? We get few anymore you can really cheer for through most of the show. I'm getting to the point in this one to wish all the women to throw each and every one of the them to the curb, yell WOMAN POWER, take over the town and show they can handle their affairs on their own. But that will never happen... I know.
I didn't like Nadia at the start of this TN, but lord, the woman is breaking my heart now and the actress is just knocking it out of the park. But this plot line needs to end and Amelia better do something because her well thought out idea has festered inactive long enough. She's going to meet her maker and not have accomplished anything if she doesn't move fast.
Ah Dim...c'mon do something besides eye-mind. You are on the fence with me on the kick to the curb if you don't start being honest with yourself and the women in your life. Wonder if they are just back-burnering this plot until all the angst of the wedding is over.
Daisynjay
Daisynjay, you should join Judy, Diana, Sara, Vivi, the wonderful Kat, and me over at DQTQTQ. We can catch you up and there is still a long way to go in the tn.
Thanks for the delightful, smart, and funny recap! It's all wonderful. As others have mentioned, last night was pretty hard to watch at times, so it was great to have your thoughtful and wry perspective on the drama and the characters--
"The Low Morals Diet: José Luis looks lighter somehow. Perhaps it is the effect of leaving his scruples behind."
Loved it!
And I am always grateful for the new Spanish vocabulary you include like the word "desdicha,"
That word sums up perfectly many of the characters' emotional states last night.
The Nadia and Pedro scene was awful to watch. I don't think I've been as upset by a storyline in this TN since the early episode days when Ale threw Montse out of the house after finding out about J-L's real identity. I hope Nadia and Victoria are reunited in an episode soon because I can't take much more.
Thanks again, NovelaMaven, and I hope everything is going well with you! Best to all!
So I watched Monday's episode last night too so between the two epis:
1. Montse going off on Josefina seemed totally out of character for her.
2. I was really hoping Amelia would push Gracie into the pond behind where they were sitting.
3. I thought Rosario had turned a corner but her unending miserable demeanor makes me wish she would have a heart attack and die. Harsh I know but I can't stand the one note of this character any longer.
4. Dim was actually smiling after remembering Fina which makes me think he really is over her bec the past didn't seem painful.
5. JL, JL, don't do this!!! You are too good for this.
Thanks so very much for this splendiferous recap! I loved the movie reference and they do indeed have the legs ; )
I too do not think JL is going to the dark side. Yes, he is desperate, as far as Monse goes. He has vowed to help Nadia get Vicky back so he is not totally on the dark side. I still like JL better than Ale.
I'm with DaisynJay, Nadia is breaking my heart too. The poor woman. I really fear for her and Vicky. I think Amelia can take care of herself. I am not underestimating Amelia. She knows what Peddy is all about.
Good question Emarie about Nadia still being Peddy's mujer. If it's legal than his marriage to Amelia is invalid.
I did enjoy the redo of the head thumping with JL and Graceless. Too funny.
Thanks again NovelaMaven for this most wonderful recap.
Thanks, NM, for a delicious morning read.
I am sitting at a table in Carmen's Fonda with Judyb and Diana waiting for Eleazer to drop by. Pass the galan, please.
Hmmm.JL or Ale...the moral of the story is...try to have only one guy become hopelessly obsessed with you.
Obsession is not love.
Just watching Ped carrying that doll so carelessly speaks volumes about his careless disregard for others.
However,I am still not giving up on Robo.
I was so curious about your question about Nadia still being Peddy's "mujer" that I looked it up. Here in the States if someone is declared dead after the legal time limit and they are later found to be alive, the second marriage still stands. So this means that the spouse who filed to have the disappeared spouse declared dead in court, was never married before, even if the "dead" spouse returns. I didn't know that. Interesting.
When Addie took an another cold shot,i shivered,not only did he mess up the good image Josefina wanted to see,but he is now in danger of being sent to jail for all his crimes commited under EZ and Pedo
Im not liking the new JL one bit,he is just hurting himself.I think Rosario has good eyes for seeing Disturbances in the Force!
He would definitely have done this because Nadia had dinero that is now legally recognized as his as her widower.
Her return from the ashes (or the deep, as it were) should cause a major legal hassle for Pedro because of this.
I also truly think, with all this head poking, there is some inside joke going on with the actors. When Carlotta or Fina start poking heads we will know for sure!
Thank you for a wonderful recap and UA, thanks for yesterday.
If he persists in hiding this fact from Monse, then he has, in a personal way, followed his demon and secured a marriage through utter deception. But JL has shown he has a conscience and the ability to weigh all the issues before he decides what to do. The verdict is still out.
Question: will Ale show up at the wedding -- and thus prevent it-- or only after the happy couple has departed on their honeymoon? In either scenario, Ale is likely to be arrested by EZ (at Pedro's direction) and thrown into jail where his life will be at risk.
Will JL move to the Light and, perhaps in an ultimate sacrifice of his own life, save Ale? Tension builds. A great TN.
Dont know iat what level Benjamin was involved in it too ,it was already said they were "great friends".Maybe he was the biggest buyer. But judging from that ole Benny caused Pedros accident,i dont really know how could they have remained friends after that.
A frustrating part of using an Ipad is that it tries to take the random letters that I type in to prove that I am not a robot and turn them into real words...this time..."natal oven"
When Maria gets out of rehab, I'm sure her job will be waiting for her back at La Escondida.
That Toyota Tundra is now giving me the creeps. It keeps showing up at the most scenic locations in Aguazul but we never see a driver!
Is it a new KITT prototype, like in Knight Rider?
I say we drink every time we see a head poke. It would sure ease my discomfort when I see this humiliating gesture.
Does any one know how many total episodes in this TN?
Beth
Thanks for the kind words. Interesting comments, guys.
Beth, I think there are about 180 - 190 episodes.
Urban, I heard Pedro promise (though indirectly) to have Alejandro killed or arrested if he came to Aguazul. If he said something about having him killed in Argentina or elsewhere, I missed it.
Thanks to Mads, Urban, Susanlynn and others for clearing up the legally dead thing (though I don't think the writers -- or Pedro -- will worry too much about actual law. Do you?)
I'm kind of intrigued by the theme of PROTECTING people by withholding crucial information from them. For lack of a better term, let's call it PATERNALISM.
It is very common in the TN universe:
-- Families and doctors PROTECT patients from the truth of their illness.
-- Patients themselves PROTECT their loved ones by not letting them know how grave their illness really is.
-- Truth about parentage is withheld, lest those affected be harmed.
So maybe there is an overarching cultural difference here. Maybe in this paternalistic universe, it makes sense for José Luis to PROTECT Montserrat from the truth of a comatose spouse (although the omniscient Patio knows that is not the truth at all).
My own cultural bias is towards full disclosure -- I want to know the truth so I can figure out how to respond to it. Maybe that's why I find what JL is doing so repugnant.
LOL Graciela butt is a damn witch isn't she? I still love her.
I'm sad about this whole story line only because I know Jose Luis will be hurt.
Pedro is a sicko! Whats his point for taking Nadia? In his sick twisted way does he love her? I don't get it.
Rosario gets on my nerves she needs to get over it already!
Dim still loves Josefa thats why he acted like he did when he seen her.
The forensic report actually absolved Alejandro because the accident was ruled "unavoidable." No flashback to the accident, however, so we never saw how it happened. What we do know is that the cyclist was moving at his bike's maximum speed. It may not have been possible for either vehicle to be slowed down in time.
That took place about 18 years before the curtain went up on the story. The victim's name was redacted at some point along the way. We also don't know what the report said of the victim's injuries.
Since Pedro never speaks of a family of origin we can surmise that he was using a different name at the time of the accident. He may have looked very different then as well.
Benjamin Almonte was a sociopath and therefore cold enough to do business with Pedro knowing that Pedro was the victim of the accident. Unless Pedro was using a different name at the time.
And i too wonder where are Pedros parents?? Perhaps when Pedo suffered the accident everyone decided to abandon him,when he needed them the most,thus turning him into a monster we know today?
Maybe he killed them himself because they would get into the way of his revenge plan?
While I can't see Alejandro or Victor in drag I can see them growing beards and/or dying their hair. They know Pedro wants their blood. And Alejandro wants his. He still will until he finds out that Maria is the one who shot Monserrat.
Which Adolfo should also know.
While we're at it, whatever happened to the drug dealer Barregas? Is he still locked up somewhere or is he dead?
What about the padre?
I gave up on Nadia's parents a long time ago.
In a different episode there was a flashback to when Pedro saw the accident report. He was trying to get anything he could on Alejandro to deprive him of his inheritance. The late unlamented police chief Loreto handed him the file stating that Alejandro was the driver of the truck that was on the road at the same time. Obviously Pedro remembered the date of his accident.
I doubt that he would have seen the faces of the occupants of that truck. He would have been trying to slow down or to swerve to avoid crashing into anything. If he was wearing a helmet (I don't know if Mexico requires that) his visibility might have been limited as well.
He was unconscious from the moment of the impact until he woke up in the hospital minus his hombria. We know he didn't consent to that surgery because he said he would have preferred death; I don't think he was lying about that.
If his parents consented to it, though, that would give him a motive to kill them. But nothing has been said about that.
I , too, am confused about why Ped wants Nadia back now that he has Amelia to enhance his public persona. It's probably just because he lives to control people and cause chaos. So far , I still think that Favier from Siempre is the more despicable villain, but Ped has lots of time to outevil him.
Oxnard..I thought that the newbie pole dancer were pretty and had some if flow moves, but it appears the director advised these actresses not to give it their all due to the censors. It reminded me of when teen Hub went to the local girlie show at the County Fair's midway. Later, when his friend gave an informal review of the show , he opined that it was like watching your grandma undress. I am sure at the time the 30 or 4o year olds seemed like someone's grandma to teenage boys. The headliner was a girl (grandma ? ) named Peaches , and for weeks afterwards the boys loved saying "Peaches...If you don't like the peaches, don't shake the tree." Maybe one of them grew up to be Macario who seemed to really love the show he saw.
The way he carried the doll out to the garden is also very telling. Amelia saw that. She should also be suspicious of Pedro talking alone with Graciela. She would know well enough that this can't lead to anything good.
This a thousand times over. I'm not sure what you want to call it, but nothing in what JL is trying to do is for protecting Monse. He tells people that, but his reluctance to reveal events and to even think of going in league with his evil witch of a mother-in-law is telling right there. How much of his caring to help Nadia and Victor is about making sure he has leverage to have them keep quiet? It just bothers the daylights out of me that everything with him has an ulterior motive to keep Monse to himself or to keep her in the dark on facts. He knows the woman he supposedly "loves" ( or possess) has been manipulated, lied to and verbally abused all her life until very recently. You would think he would care enough about her to not be doing the exact same thing himself ( minus the verbal abuse. Gracie owns that.)
Ok--lunch time rant over.
Oxnard - that creepy Toyota comment-absolutely priceless and hysterical. And Mac and Cheese spills caused by laughing too hard do clean easily by the way.
Karen et al...I may just take you up on the Te Quiero table and viewing. I should be able to catch up with my Hulu+ and recaps. My son is out with friends more now that he's out of school and only wants the main TV with the premium box on Sundays for Game of Thrones (well I watch too so that works). I need some "bright" moments now that my only other show I watch, Once Upon A Time, is done for the summer and GOT is not bright either.
Daisynjay
About Listless in La Escondida...
I was actually riffing on Sleepless in Seattle
You know, Oxnard Huero, I almost used a Bored Bimbos as the subhead for that part.
Susanlynn, I thought the girls were attractive, but their faces looked so blank, they could have been thinking about, I don't know, flossing their teeth or something.
Daisynjay
"Mac and Cheese spills caused by laughing too hard do clean easily by the way."
Good to know, especially around here!
Here's hoping Alex turns crazy soon. I like crazy Alex. He's more interesting. I don't like Pedro because he's just mean for no reason.
Cynderella
Imagine saying that to a very annoying teacher or your boss!
It sounds so much better then the lame " Que Caiga de Consideracion" by Tita from POS..
Graciela could take over Hell more easily than FeVier because she has colder blood. The other night I was seeing her as a boa constrictor while Sandro and Fabiola were (respectively) a fox and a hyena.
I finally remembered what I failed to post yesterday in response to her apparent excitement at the prospect of slumming in Juventino's bed: She was getting off on the idea of him wanting her, not the prospect of having to boink him. A while back I posted that I believe she gets off on taking men for their money more than on having the money to spend. She may have been forming a plan to get into his bed to have an opportunity to kill him because he knew too much.
Really, couldn't you see her doing a murder scene similar to Fernando killing Ruth in FELS?
My other favorites:
"she will do everything she can to keep Montserrat from knowing that Alejandro is alive [and making a crucial life decision herself]." and
"José Luis looks lighter somehow. Perhaps it is the effect of leaving his scruples behind." Great job!
Julia Rold, totally agree with you on how hard it was to watch the Pedro/Nadia scene. As others believe, its not about him loving her and wanting her back. It's all about power and controlling people, and being downright cruel. He is a pyscho!
Demetrios, you are right: "You just know you crossed all the possible limits when Gracie tells you so!"
I wonder if in his delusions, he is actually believing that Victoria is his daughter. I'm glad she is following Amelia's advice and playing along with him to keep safe. Hope she and her parents are reunited soon.
In regards to JL, I haven't made up my mind yet regarding Rosie's premonition of there being something dark about him. I can understand that he sees this as his final chance to be with Montse and find his happiness, but like Daisynjay says "his reluctance to reveal events and to even think of going in league with his evil witch of a mother-in-law is telling right there". He knows the extent of evil that Gracie has done to her kids and hooking up with her does not put him in good standing with me. I'm hoping that the good in him supersedes the darkness and that he tells Montse about Ale. Let her be her own woman and decide whether she wants to be by Ale's side or prefers to go on with her life with JL. That kind of gesture would show true love.
I'll wait to judge him once he makes a decision.
Susanlynn, yes, Martin the actor who played the corrupt doctor is MEPS.
Off topic, Daisynjay, I love Once Upon a Time too :-)
Maricruz
Others have mostly pointed out the humor highlights. Pedro and Gracie were a pair in their convo last night. They could easily take over hell and give the devil a vacation.
Urban, I belive Gracie could remove someone a la Fernando offing Ruth, but I'm not sure she would. She seems to prefer giving orders for someone else to do the dirty work, while she pulls the strings. She likes to manipulate, saving time to preen as she observes the lower orders.
I wondered about the room for Maria. With the metal bed in there, she could have gone into head banging mode and done some serious damage. Fortunately, she chose to pursue the padded walls instead.
With the seesaw weighted down to the evil side right now, I'm feeling weak and weary. I do give the writers props for keeping the action stirred up, with several pots boiling at the same time. I think I care more about our second-tier characters than the top triangle.
Nooo...I'm not on Pedro's side but this is how he views his position and thinks his actions as legitimate.
"...what if it's an all girl orchestra and the boys have to go in drag...?"
Well, I also think that is unlikely but those of us who have fond memories of Alejandro when he was Mauricio (Gancho) can remember seeing him and Beto in drag when they were staying the night at a convent. As I recall, Mau (Ale) was very pretty... Beto... not so much.
UA, this made me smile:
"He may have looked very different then as well..
Yes, I imagine he did.
María in detox? Oh my. Will she emerge with a whole new perspective and set of values.
Judy,
I'm betting that your aerobics class has more energy than La Escondida's new crop of dancers.
So which is worse, to hold Monse captive by force (Alejandro) or to hold her captive by deceit (José Luis)?
Carlos
Maricruz
As always, a superb recap. Thank you! My favorite lines have already been mentioned.
There is a debate on whether or not JL has turned to the dark side. If he hasn't, he is on his way. Joining forces with Gracie is like joining forces with Peddy. Even if he's paying her to stay out of his relationship with Montse, it's almost like paying her to meddle in it. He is just asking for trouble, and he should know better. I see JL changing because he is afraid of losing Montse. He went as far as to say that he would protect Vicky in hopes that Nadia and Vic would thank him by not telling Montse that Ale is alive. WTH? Talk about obsession. I don't know if Nadia and Vic would play along.
I believe Dimi still has feelings for Fina. But the writers will take their sweet time before Dimi admits it to Fina or himself. Still pithed at Fina for not telling Montse the truth.
I am so happy to see Ale alive and breathing. He is looking good in those Jeans and t-shirts.
Back to work...hasta pronto!
Tension builds. A great TN.
Nancy, I'm not sure if you've commented before, but I'm glad you decided to join us today. Welcome!
Maybe someone else can answer your question about the CC3 English captions. I'm not even sure I can get that setting on my tv.
(Sadly, Telemundo and Mun2 seem much more consistent than Univision in delivering quality captions. And Mun2 uses English captions exclusively.)
NM
"I almost used a Bored Bimbos as the subhead for that part".
The lethargic La Escondida girls were not bad looking.
Now if Zumela had dressed them like the girls in those old Robert Palmer videos from the 80's and started cranking out "Addicted to Love" or "Simply Irresistible" they would have had something there!
["Bimbo" is one of those silly words that makes Americans giggle, like when we see the car in Italy with its Bimbo a bordo bumper sticker ("Baby on Board") or the great big BIMBO bakery trucks rumbling down the street in Mexico. It is a satisfying word to write and to say aloud. B I M B O. Maybe some day, a poem...]
I think the actresses were "acting" bored to give Esme a reason for her monologue about the pole setting you free. She needed to give them an inspirational locker room speech.
NM, I have noticed that "hmmmm?" Thing JL does and I find it condescending. I'm over him again.
After the baby is born she and Refugio should take tango lessons.
JL has to be delusional if he thinks that Victor and Nadia would agree to that. Victor is Alejandro's best friend and Nadia is Monse's best friend. Only a death threat would keep her quiet.
If JL succeeds in marrying Monse, I don't think he'll be happy with himself.
Poor Rosario. She's tried to go along with Monse, but now she's getting bad vibes from JL.
Amelia needs to zip it with Graciela. I yelled "shut up!" when she admitted she married Pedro for "other" reasons. How soon will Gracie figure out Amelia is a Scooby?
What a great image, Katy!
I'm also reassured that I'm not the only one annoyed by JL's little verbal tic -- say, why don't you and Anon 6:32 join me for a beer at the NITPICKERS table?
Niecie, I try. :)
"OH, I don't know the Robert Palmer videos, but let me assure you, by calling the ladies "bimbos," I didn't mean to imply that they were unattractive".
I never thought that you implied that.
Anyway, cut and paste this link to your browser. It's the "Addicted to Love" video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcATvu5f9vE
Add me to the list of people who are annoyed by JL's constant..hmmm.
The lights are on, but you're not home
I see that Susanlynn got your reference right away.
Susanlynn, you're welcome to stop by the Nitpickers' Table any old time.
Add me to the list of irritated by JL's tic, hmmm.
My mother pointed it out to me a couple weeks ago and it's been annoying ever since.
Maricruz
AuntyAnne, yet another reason, hmmm, why Montse should think twice about that hasty marriage.
Even if we get bored with the story, we can amuse ourselves counting verbal tics and head thumps.
[But if we make a drinking game out of it, we may end up sharing a room with Fabiola at María's current address.]
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