Wednesday, August 06, 2014
Lo que la vida me robó, ep. 189, Tues., 8/5/14: Murder and Meningitis and Vengeance, Oh My!
Labels: robo
Now we need to worry about Dimitrio regressing and betraying Alejandro, which would ultimately destroy Monserrat as well. That would leave him with nothing in the end because killing Adolfo would not only land him in the slammer, it can't bring Monica back.
And there is still the emotional vampire that is Graciela / Gaudencia. She was at her most vile last night, wishing death on her own grandchild. She is not far away from the mistress of Foxworth Hall in Flowers In the Attic. It's time for her downfall.
As for MDA, I can't blame Monserrat for not believing him. He needs to prove this to her. He also needs to gain Dimitrio's trust and take care of The Scorpion.
BTW, I can't access the article.
What irked me the most was that Nadia went to that Witch Graciela instead of going straight to the Noble Padre ..
Robo has gotten so lame i loved watching it before ,now its just provocations and violence instead of coherent plot development like Amores Verdaderos..
The 7 years timeskip was completely unneccary,they could have handled JL differently,when he went to burn the money..
For MDA followers:
Has he now redeemed himself by calling Ale and Monse and by saying he will withdraw his petition for full custody?
For those at and not at the Gracie is faking it table:
Do one or two good deeds, or the act of dying, make up for a lifetime of cruelty and narcissistic behavior and thus deserve one's forgiveness?
Thank you. I'm continually amazed by the wealth of knowledge of Caray, Caray bloggers and amount of trivial information one learns while reading the comments.
How you ever knew that fact boggles my mind!
Looks like MDJL at least is making the effort. He needs a new bromance and I guess it will now be Ale. (That hug was awkward.)
With every new episode, I just want Adolfo to shut the hell up and go away already. His constant excuses for killing people, his cowardice and lying is enough already. Maybe the writers want us to stop feeling any pity for this guy so when his anvil falls, we'll be understanding with it. They are succeeding.
So we see Eric and Esme now becoming a couple through the end? Still baffled why this is so important--unless it's another "you can find happiness with your second love in life." Thanks, we got that message too.
If they destroy the character of Dim by turning him dark and having something happen to him, well, just keep breakables away from me. After everything he's been thru, how he's tried to be there for everyone, they want him to go in league with Pedro? I still expect him to be Adolfo's downfall, but I can get that as an officer of the law. Nothing else is necessary writers.
Ok, now I do think something is up with Gracie. If she was sick and dying and regretful, she couldn't be....well, Gaudy/Gracie that we know and despise. I may be slowly dragging my chair to the table with the "faking Gracie" table. Something is up here.
Daisynjay
It is the supreme talent of a narcissist to fool people into thinking them extraordinary, good, attractive, charming, and a whole list of other things solely and absolutely for only their own benefit. Gracie handing the will to Monserrat was only to convince her that she is on her side when she is only on her own.
Adolfo's hit list is growing with each episode. I wish he would do us all a favor and take out Pedro and kill himself. Come to think of it, at this point, killing himself would be enough. If not will he kill Padre Anselmo? What if Poor Blind Nadia sees the light, so to speak? Would he kill her? Clueless Victor? Half of Aguazul maybe? Graciela? If only he would only kill the latter . . .
Graciela's latest well crafted cruelties telling Poor Blind Nadia all about Adolfo and explaining to Carlota et al how it would be a good thing for Romina to die are just further proof to me that she is faking her illness. The level of Graciela logic with its inherent cruelty and her willingness to bestow this "wisdom" in the service of the destruction of others have never declined in quality or waffled. She sounds like she is at the top of her game. Her fake illness gives her a captive audience and Graciela loves an audience.
So on we amble to the end!
Jarifa
"Murder nad Meningitis and Vengeance" was inspired. Your conversation translations and witty asides were wonderful and so appreciated.
"Victor works his jaw a little (but only a little -- EZ took that secret to the grave with him)" and "Why Victor will never be a Rhodes Scholar and why Adolfo is going straight to hell, [for those who are still collecting evidence]" were my favorites.
Admist the murder and mayhem and the devastating aftereffects, the most heartrendering emotion may have been regret. Esme is wracked with guilt and rightly realizes she squandered time with Refugio she can never recover. Now she must console herself with their last words and kisses instead of a year's joyous memories. My heart ached for her.
Victoria, yes, I think Jose Luis has redeemed himself. He has made grave mistakes but is now reverting to the honorable man he once was. He is now willing (and I totally believe him) to surrender his daughter whom he loves. I am really hoping this will be enough to save him but with the mounting death toll, I am very uneasy.
I do believe in forgiveness if someone, at their life's end is truly contrite for their past sins. We are always being told we must be able to forgive, and I think it is something we should and must do as human beings. However, I do not think Graciela is truly sorry for the many terrible acts she has committed. Looking at her attitude toward Rosario, she continues to bite and to sting. Her not caring if her granddaughter dies was still shocking to me after all this time. Monse has a good heart and if she was able to forgive her, I applaud her.
I am still strong in my belief Graciela is dying. But, I'm wrong almost all the time so if all of the Crackpot Theorists are right, I will concede graciously with an admiring tip of the hat.
I know Dimitrio wants justice but I really hope he will drop his quest for vengence. UA, do we really need to worry about him too on top of everything else? Sigh.
As a Catholic, I was brought up to respect the sanctity of the confessional but I am relieved that the Padre has threatened to turn Adolfo in.
I would be very happy if the death toll count would stsop. I despise the fact there may be several more potential deaths looming. I had always thought JL would bring Pedro down. I'm not sure now but someone has to, right? I mean Pedro cannot be the last man standing.
NovelaMaven, thank you for your riveting summary.
Diana
May the fate she wished on Benjamin be hers. Since she is also guilty of murdering him she needs to be in prison.
After tonight's episode -- crap! Was I wrong!"
Wow. Once again you've spun gold out of straw...and pretty moldy, cruddy straw at that.
Lots of love in this recap, if not the episode. Here are just a few gems I noted:
Adolfo, like a vile creature who avoids the light of day
the transition point of Refugio's son growing up without a father and Romina growing up without a mother (If J.L has anything to do with it!)
They might as well be sporting a couple of Hello I'm Pedro's Goon! badges
Why Victor will never be a Rhodes Scholar...and he "uses the limited tools God gave him"
The root of Dimitrio's pain makes her way to the living room, kvetching bitterly that no one is paying attention to her.
And possibly my favorite: Victor works his jaw a little (but only a little -- EZ took that secret to the grave with him) and says nothing for several seconds.
I've noticed quite a bit of EZ jaw working lately. Refugio did it on one of those endless discussions with Esmerelda and now Special Needs Victor is grinding his teeth as well.
Well hey, maybe men do this in real life...dunno. The ones I know just rant and rave when they're angry.
Sounds like the writers are throwing in everything but the kitchen sink for the final weeks. And I notice Pope Francis is asking young folks to give up trivial occupations like watching soap operas and hanging out on the Internet. Do you think this applies to us old codgers on Social Security!?
Anyway, loved the recap NovelaMaven. Not sure I can stomach watching the actual episode. But if I do, don't tell the Pope!
And thanks to all for the warm sympathy over the losses in my life. This is such a good and comforting place to come when feeling down.
Gaudencia is irrelevant. I have believed for many episodes now that she is playing her ultimate and final con.
Dear Diana, even if we at the "Graciela is Faking It" table are right, no need to tip the hat. I don't see it as a competition, but just voicing a feeling on a vile, despicable, and sorry excuse for a mother and a woman.
Agree with your comments and observations re Gaudencia, Urban.
I fully understand the need to forgive. I fully understand Padre's persistence in asking Gaudencia's children to forgive her. I am glad that his request forced Dimitrio to assess how he feels about her. At least, he says out loud how his mother has impacted his life. Montserrat just brushes it off. We will never see the end results of her feelings about her mother, but we all know that the treatment these two received as children and as adults by their own mother will haunt them for the rest of their lives even in the face of receiving appropriate counseling.
I am amazed how quickly they forget what happened to Fabiola. If ever there was a more pathetic creature, it was Fabiola and Gaudencia destroyed and killed (albeit indirectly) her own child.
I am in complete agreement with Diana that Esmeralda's regret was so painful and sad to watch.
Thank you so much, NovelaMaven. We have had so many thought provoking and wonderful discussions during this TN. I shall miss it so very much.
I want to repeat what our wonderful JudyB said this morning: "This is such a good and comforting place to come when feeling down."
Fatima
Diana, I think we are getting set up for Pedro or Gaudy Girl to be the "last man standing". They were our main villians, despite Adolfo shooting everyone in sight for years. I'll stick with my hope for Pedro--killing outright is too good for him. He needs a nice slow, mind-numbing death by whatever. And as for Gaudy, if she is faking, first lord help her. I love that scene in Teresa when everyone, including her family, turns their backs to her at the party. First, that would be so fitting for Gaudy since she's always wanted everyone to "understand her". But boy, would I love if she does has her wits about her to have to scrub a few floors, cook for herself (does she know how??) and break a few nails for the rest of her life while all alone. A full circle back to poverty. Either that, or if she isn't faking, when she dies, she dies alone and the no
one forgives her.
Daisynjay
I may be heading toward the dining hall but I still refuse to sit at the "faking Gracie" table…I would have preferred the tumor take away Graceless Gaudencia’s ability to speak and then let her live a few more years. She deserves nothing less than slow torture.
I would personally like to see Nadia take out Pedro with a “shot in the dark” since she endured so much. I am looking forward to the range of emotions when Dim finds out about Adolfo…betrayal, hatred, disgust, etc.
With Adolfo’s list growing longer; it does make for a more intimate wedding but does he realize that fewer wedding guests represent fewer gifts?
PBN
Fatima, thank you for reminding us about Fabiola. While not so innocent, her death was tragic nevertheless and Graciela must answer for her not insubstantial role in her death.
Diana
This recap is a gem, a sparkling gem, much better than the episode!
I actually liked the hug between JL and Ale. It was awkward, but I think Ale, who I must say I am impressed with now, understood how much JL was hurting for what he had done. Ale as the voice of reason, who knew!
May Fofito's anvil hurry up. I can't stand the way he was "consoling" poor Esme. He used to have a conscience! Now he can go straight to hellz!
I did have a moment of levity when Dimi went to see the Padre and he was saying something about himself and Monica in bed and the Padre was saying something like TMI, too funny. I wasn't expecting that. But then again, Dimi hasn't had a one on one with the Padre, I don't think.
I don't think His Holiness would be bothered by Gracious Ladies watching TNs. After all, one of his nuns, was on the Voice of Italy!
I too ached for Esme, the poor thing. I was hoping for a miracle and that Refug would live.
When Guady was spewing her crap to PBN, I wished that PBN, could see! Just the expression on Guady's face, ugh! I am beginning to think that Guady is much like Peddy. She manipulates people with her words and actions. Guady so enjoys twisting the knife, and what she said about poor little Romina, unforgivable!
Thanks again NovelaMaven for this wonderful rendition of a very sad episode.
"And really, Graciela's behavior is so dreadful, so egregious, even for her, the normal social constraints so lacking, that it makes me wonder if there's something wrong with her head -- like a brain tumor, por ejemplo..."
Thanks.
My very favorite scene of many good individual scenes last night was that between Dimitrio and Padre Anselmo (convincingly very well acted), and my favorite moment came as Dimitrio was sincerely trying to explain his relationship with Monica:
Dimitrio (with all innocence and candor): We fell in love, we began a relationship, we loved each other, we had an incredible connection, and in bed...
Padre Anselmo (uncomfortably interrupting and fluttering his hands): Son, spare me those details...
Those who are fast forwarding through this episode should pause and watch this cute scene as well as the sweet scene between Dimitrio and Josefina.
Carlos
One doesn't need a brain tumor to behave as Gracie does, just a humungous sense of entitlement.
You continue to write beautifully while telling us all we need to know and adding in those rich vocabulary-laden Spanish phrases which I always love to read. I am most appreciative of your dedication as a recapper and also for your sense of huomor.
There was one very funny exchange last night which you forgot to include, and I am hoping to be able to prevail upon you to peek back and review it for me to make sure that I got all of it.
It was when Dimitrio was talking to the Padre and he began filling him in on his relationship with Mónica. He said they fell in love, and then he started to describe their relationship in bed, and then el Padre told him to spare him the details, but Dimitrio continued on, and mentioned something about the naturaleza, and ended up saying something like - "Oh, I guess you don't know about these things?"
and the Padre just gave him such a priceless look. I thought this
dialogue was clever and fascinating, both great actors ... so hope you can fill in what I missed. I may be looking for a comparison of relationships between Dim & Jose and Dim and Monica.
Hay mas ...I loved the exchange between Josfina and Dimitrio. He seemed to be groping and probing to see what Josefina feels for him and what he in fact feels for her.
What did he start to say to her?
Was his relationship with Josefina more spiritual than his relationship with Mónica. He knows her soul, and she knows his.
I think there is a deep love between them which will eventually erupt in physical passion to add to the equation. Ojalá!
If Adolfool wanted to kill the Padre, why didn't he do it right then and there?
I keep wondering if PBN will regain her sight at the end of the novela as has been done with several other characters in this situation.
Thanks again, NovelaMaven,
NovelaMarvel and to all recappers who have managed to stick with this atrociious, senseless story.
This has been a wonderful show to recap. Even the episodes we despise tend to be rich visually and linguistically; and the acting -- with only a couple of exceptions -- has been extraordinary. If only it had not gone on so very very long...
The conversations here have often surprised me by their thoughtfulness. And then there is the inspired silliness and wit -- not to mention the kindness and openness of this community. It's your wonderful comments that energized the blog and kept the recappers inspired. Thank you so much to every single reader and to everyone who has ever taken the time and effort to leave a comment here.
I'm proud to have been on this team with Mads, Urban, Gloria, Eli, Julia Rold, Elna June and Elvira. See you at el gran fin!
You continue to write beautifully while telling us all we need to know and adding in those rich vocabulary-laden Spanish phrases which I always love to read. I am most appreciative of your dedication as a recapper and also for your sense of huomor.
There was one very funny exchange last night which you forgot to include, and I am hoping to be able to prevail upon you to peek back and review it for me to make sure that I got all of it.
It was when Dimitrio was talking to the Padre and he began filling him in on his relationship with Mónica. He said they fell in love, and then he started to describe their relationship in bed, and then el Padre told him to spare him the details, but Dimitrio continued on, and mentioned something about the naturaleza, and ended up saying something like - "Oh, I guess you don't know about these things?"
and the Padre just gave him such a priceless look. I thought this
dialogue was clever and fascinating, both great actors ... so hope you can fill in what I missed. I may be looking for a comparison of relationships between Dim & Jose and Dim and Monica.
Hay mas ...I loved the exchange between Josfina and Dimitrio. He seemed to be groping and probing to see what Josefina feels for him and what he in fact feels for her.
What did he start to say to her?
Was his relationship with Josefina more spiritual than his relationship with Mónica. He knows her soul, and she knows his.
I think there is a deep love between them which will eventually erupt in physical passion to add to the equation. Ojalá!
If Adolfool wanted to kill the Padre, why didn't he do it right then and there?
I keep wondering if PBN will regain her sight at the end of the novela as has been done with several other characters in this situation.
Thanks again, NovelaMaven,
NovelaMarvel and to all recappers who have managed to stick with this atrociious, senseless story.
Our comments crossed paths.
You especially enjoyed the two scenes I mentioned. They were both thoughtful and funny.
Dimitrio and Padre Anselmo
D: Father, you know I'm not religious, but I have nobody to talk to. I don't trust anyone. You won't repeat what I say to anyone, right? It's like a secret with God or something?
PA: If that's what you're asking for, then yes.
D: Please. [Sighs] Before you returned to Aguazul, I was planning to marry Monica, a captain I met in the Marina. We fell in love, we started a relationship -- we loved each other, we had an incredible connection. In bed...
PA: Son, spare me those details.
D: Father, truly, I could understand the concept of God when we were in bed; we were connected to nature; it was...You never...?
PA remains silent.
D: Well. The Scorpion killed her in an operation; and since then, I've been looking for him
Dimitrio and Josefina, 47"
D: Everyone wants me to leave the past behind and forget Monica; they want me to start again and give life a chance. And Josefina I...I need you to...(Yo necesito que tú...)
J: That I what? (¿que yo qué? )
D: No, forget it. I'm sorry, I'm in bad shape, I don't feel well.
J: What were you going to say, Dimitrio?
D: Nothing. I'm not doing well...and besides, my mother has a tumor in her head...
Daisynjay,
I'm delighted that you found the recap "thought-provoking." We've certainly been thrown lots of bones to chew on.
BTW, I stopped feeling any pity for Adolfo a long time ago. He has more than enough pity for himself -- he really doesn't need the Patio to spare him any.
I would be terribly disappointed if Dim turned dark. That is definitely outside the Playbook and not in the Patio Contract I signed.
At least our hero Alejandro is starting to act like one. [sigh]
Jarifa,
I'm so glad you enjoyed the recap.
What if Poor Blind Nadia sees the light, so to speak? Would [Adolfo] kill her?
Hah. I think he would. I think he has no limits whatsoever.
So on we amble to the end!
Indeed. It's been a looooooong haul, but a long more enjoyable with you as a traveling companion!
Dear Diana,
Thank you so much for your, as always, lovely words. I was really struck by this line in your comment:
"Amidst the murder and mayhem and the devastating aftereffects, the most heartrendering emotion may have been regret."
Yes! And Esmeralda's scenes were so beautifully played that they were almost unbearable to watch.
As for the burdensome secret that Padre Anselmo carries, I had a fleeting hope that he would play a sort of spiritual matchmaker by revealing Adolfo's secret to Dimitrio, sparing Dimitrio the temptation of making a Faustian bargain with Pedro. If he reveals a confessional secret, he'll be ex-communicated, so why not a two-fer? Save one or many lives (Adolfo's future victims) and save a soul (Dimitrio's).
My goodness. It is your last? THANK YOU SO MUCH!! Your wit, thoughtfulness and dedication, along with all the recappers, has been so appreciated.
Yes, Carlos, I actually tuned up the Hulu during my lunch break and re-watched those Dim scenes last night since I wasn't able to appreciate them. Wonderfully done by all actors--too bad we didn't have more of this type of interaction throughout the show, but nice to be able to watch again and see all the aspects of acting/directing and writing come together in such gentle scenes.
Daisynjay
Daisynjay
Romy
Thanks for the wonderful recap! I especially enjoyed your transcription and translation of some of the dialog. Thanks also for the vocabulary lesson on "sicario." I had no idea that it meant "hitman."
I appreciate your amazing work and attention to detail, and congrats on this recap being your last full one.
My comment on last night's episode is that citizens of Aqua Azul need to mind their own business as far as Dimitrio and Graciela's relationship goes. I'm annoyed that Josefina and others keep telling Dimitrio to forgive his mother. They haven't been in his shoes, dealing with Graciela all these years. It would be really hard to overlook her sins. But I feel like they're trying to push him into a close relationship with Graciela when he doesn't seem to want that. They just need to understand him and accept what he feels like doing. If he decides to keep his mother at arm's length, that's his right.
We can see the negative effects of the Aqua Azul peer pressure with Montserrat. Everyone pushed her into marrying Jose Luis (Carlota, etc) when she didn't really feel like it. That decision forces her now to deal with an unshaven, baby-kidnapping, jealous monster.
Dimitrio needs to stand his ground and do what's right for him, regardless of what the citizens of Aqua Azul think.
I also don't believe he's going to take Pedro's offer. I think he's smarter than that.
Thanks again, NovelaMaven!
I used to think Adolfo was kind of torn up about being a hit man, but now I don't think he has a conscience at all. I agree with NM that even Nadia is not safe around him.
I don't love JL, but I am a little worried about his fate. He now has two big strikes against him living a long life, 1) he has "seen the light" regarding his relationship with Montse, Romina and Alejandro, and 2) he is extremely inconvenient to have around. It's that inconvenience thing that is the most dangerous from a telenovela plot point of view.
Graciela has surprised me again with the depth of her selfishness and meanness. Daniela Castro is a terrific actress. Sometimes I wonder if she is following the script and direction exactly, or if she is throwing in some of her own ideas. That scene a few episodes ago when she stumbled in to the dinner table and stole Rosario's plate and glass without missing a beat was pure brilliance. It doesn't seem like the writers are clever enough to write something like that into the script.
I need this show to just stop. Just when you think that it cannot get any more painful to watch...it does.
Fofo is one of those people who just keeps making things worse...and worse...and worse. I always try to clean up as quickly as possible when the stuff hits the fan and things start flying, but I know that some people seem to turn the fan on a higher speed.....that's our Fofo.
I was packing last night during this episode, so I was confused when JL was suddenly calling Mony and everyone was in the hospital. We have a tiny thumb sucker in our family, so I could relate to little Romina self comforting by sucking her thumb as she missed her mommy.
As for Grrrrrr (thanks, Novella lover for that spot on nickname). .....there are no words. I feel nothing but pity and disgust for anyone who would speak so heartlessly about her own grandchild. At this point, I am unsure if Grrrrrr really has a brain tumor, but I do know that she has a stone cold heart. What a terrible waste of life to be so cold , vicious, and heartless. Her on,y joy, besides her love of $$$$$ , seems to be saying hurtful things to the people around her. To quote my favorite Beatles ' lyric . "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make". Grr will leave this world without one speck of love because she has given none. How extremely sad. She is a lesson to us all to watch our words and try to be kind especially to those we are closest to. Someone once said, "I did not hear the words she said, I only heard the love." In Grr's case, her words reveal her hatred of everyone. Grr is an equal opportunity hater. What a sad existence . Being Gracie is it's own form of punishment because it is tragic to be so full of malice and negativity. Despite everything that they have endured , Mony, Carlotta, Nadia, Fina are still positive and kind.
You are so unfailingly generous to me, and your praise means so much. Thank you!
"I've noticed quite a bit of EZ jaw working lately. Refugio did it on one of those endless discussions with Esmerelda and now Special Needs Victor is grinding his teeth as well."
Hah! As shortcuts to displaying emotion, the clenching of jaws and grinding of teeth are far less annoying than the wide-eyed look that Refugio relied on so much. (But EZ, my gosh, he was a champ. His control over his facial muscles was freaky -- he was like one of those people who can wiggle their ears.)
Judy, I so admire your resilience. You are a wonderful example for me and for all of us here. How lucky for us that you are back!
Dear Fatima,
Thanks so much for your comment. I'm delighted you liked the introduction. I really was starting to feel a certain optimism -- and then BAM!
Speaking of optimism, you are sounding more like yourself today. I hope you are well on your way to moving past that ghastly day you had.
I'm also going to miss our conversations here when this is all over.
Dear PBN:
I don't recall seeing your comments here before. Welcome! I actually love just about everything you wrote, but I'll single out my favorite line of wishful thinking:
"I would have preferred the tumor take away Graceless Gaudencia’s ability to speak and then let her live a few more years.
YES! If ever a wicked tongue needed silencing...
Well okay, one more: how about this one?
"With Adolfo’s list growing longer; it does make for a more intimate wedding but does he realize that fewer wedding guests represent fewer gifts?"
Of course when you marry the fabulously wealthy Fina, you don't have to worry about a bunch of chintzy blenders and tupperware.
Dear Mads:
Thanks so much for your kind words. I see you were on the same page as Carlos and Floridia about that TMI scene between Dim and the padre. I added some additional detail in a comment, at Floridia's request. It WAS a cute scene, wasn't it? I'm so glad you folks thought to bring it up here.
Dear Carlos:
I'm so grateful for your comments. They buoy me along sometimes, reassuring me that I have managed to make some kind of sense when I'm not quite sure of that myself.
As I'm sure you know by now, I especially enjoy your sense of humor and your delight in the absurd. Fortunately for both of us, the absurd is never in short supply in our stories!
Thank you, Carlos!
Dear Floridia:
Thank you for the lovely words. I hope I answered your question above.
"Was [Dimitrio's] relationship with Josefina more spiritual than his relationship with Mónica? He knows her soul, and she knows his.
Dimitrio had the whole shebang with Josefina -- the spiritual and the sensual and a real KNOWLEDGE of each other. Maybe he and Monica would have gotten to that place over time; but in my opinion, they never had the chance to get there.
I'd love to see a reconciliation between Dim and Fina. Will these bloodthirsty writers allow us that pleasure?
Diana
I think the hug was an indication of how damaged and emotionally devastated JL is over the way things turned out with Monse, Ale, and his most recent loss, Refugio. Everything in his life is gone and he has no one - woman or man-to comfort him. And he turns to Ale. Now that shows that all along, despite his hatred of the circumstances of his life and the way fate has dealt him a losing hand,he still wants and indeed needs Monse and Ale in his life. Not creepy at all.
I thought you were sending me a secret message or giving me a special name. Frankly, I'm a little disappointed it's just a spooky captcha glitch.
You are so very welcome! I've enjoyed reading every single one of your thoughtful, articulate and often very funny comments!
Dear Romy:
The pleasure is entirely mine!
Dear Tracy H:
You know I was thinking of you when I got on a bit of a Spanish roll last night. "Sicario," alas, comes up a lot in novelas I've seen.
I used to marvel at the number of ways I could say "woman of ill repute" or the establishment in which she worked; now I am collecting words to describe murderers. Ugh.
"We can see the negative effects of the Aqua Azul peer pressure with Montserrat. Everyone pushed her into marrying Jose Luis (Carlota, etc) when she didn't really feel like it. That decision forces her now to deal with an unshaven, baby-kidnapping, jealous monster."
Excellent point!
Dear Sylvia:
Will you be insulted if I tell you that you are so predictable? I know how much you love the sudden drops from high to low register, from the pedantic to the vulgar! Hee hee.
I love your observation about Daniela Castro's scene at the dinner table. I can certainly imagine the actress improvising the plate steal. Even if the writers weren't clever enough to write the scene that way, at least they had the smarts to leave it in.
"We have all recognized that the crappier/sillier/more bogus the episode the better the recap."
-- from The Recapper's Credo
And yes, JL has become "inconvenient." Woe is he!
Dear Susanlynn:
Thank you so much for your kind comment today and all days, especially when you made an effort to stop by even when you loathed an episode.
"some people seem to turn the fan on a higher speed."
Nicely observed!
"I did not hear the words she said, I only heard the love."
I see Diana and I were both moved by this quote. Thanks, Susanlynn!
Thanks so much for retrieving all that dialogue. I appreciate all of your recapping, past, present, and future.
What was NOT SAID was intriguing.
Re Not telling a person, "I love you," Josefina stressed Dim's not
saying that to his father, and Esme not telling Refugio, and possibly Dim's not telling his mother before her demise ...and NOT SAID was Dim saying, "I love you to Josefina." ..which I hope will eventually happen.
Jose was advising Dim to make peace with his mother not for the benefit of his mother, but knowing his sensitive soul, she wants Dim to find peace for his own good.
Thanks for writing this recap. Another sad episode with Refu's death. This one caught me by surprise.
I have had enough with Adolfo. He needs to go!
Gracie is a fake, fake, faker!
I have yet to read any comments, but I plan to do so later this afternoon. Thanks again NovelaMaven!
Back to lunch...hasta pronto!
You put up how I feel about JL better than I could. Throughout this TN I have felt for him, all the pain and anguish he went through, all the losses in his life, and for the writers to add more on and write him as a man with no nobility or honor just stuck in my craw. I am so glad he is coming back now, I'm crossing my fingers, to the noble honorable man he was. I think it had to do when he called Esme and found out that Refug had died, and combined with the fact that Romina was sick.
Gringo:
From your comment yesterday. I loved the adventures of Esme and Refug throughout this whole novella. I hated it when they separated and I was shocked when Refug died. It was heartbreaking and I will miss his bromance with JL and his foolishness, but most of all his great love for Esme, sigh.
NovelaMaven:
Thanks so much for the whole line by line of the convo with Dimi and the Padre. All I really caught from that scene was cama (bed) Monica and the Padre with that look on his face and telling Dimi no, just no! I loved that whole scene, I made me smile and laugh out loud.
Just a general observation. I think someone either on this Blog or someone famous once said that hate and venganza only hurts the person that does the hating. It doesn't effect the object of the hate at all. Could that be what Fina meant in her little talk with Dimi as Floridia said? I too hope that Fofito goes to jail along with Peddy and they have to share a cell forever and ever! Now that would be great karma!
This episode actually left me with more questions than answers. Ale and Montse saw Pedro's henchman carry off Maria's body, yet no one has ever expressed concerned about what happened to her body or if she even got a funeral/burial. I know Ale hated Maria, but he did grow up with her. Hard to believe he would be that uncaring about her final resting place.
Did Graciela unwittingly tip off Nadia to Gracie's role in Sandro's murder? Gracie told Nadia that Adolfo cleaned up the crime scene. But how would Gracie know that unless she was involved? PBN is probably too dense to question this.
If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Ale still have to uncover Gracie's role in Benjamin's death?
Unfortunately we will see more bodies fall. My hubby refers to this as "thinning the herd." At the rate we're going Aqua Azul will have tens of people residing within its borders by the time this is over.
JudyB: "Special Needs Victor". OMG, I'm still laughing.
Daisynjay
Novela Maven, I must call out this line ..."mid kevetch" I got a good giggle out of your description of Grrrrrr as " hungry, angry, lonely, tired..and her legs hurt. " Uh oh, that reminded me of my own kevetching after a long teaching day !!! Yikes, I have something in common with awful Grrrrrr.
I can't believe this is really your last recap for this TN! I admit that I've been counting the days for this TN to be over, but now that the end is in sight, I know I will miss the weekly pleasure of reading your wonderful work with all the great details, stylish writing, smart asides, and helpful grammar and vocabulary. Today, I had an especially huge laugh at your analysis and retelling of the conversation between Victor and Adolfo! So funny!
Many, many thanks for giving us such great work to read over the past nine months and for being such a wise, witty, generous, and wonderful presence on the comments page, too.
Best to you and to everyone,
Julia R.
As to the issue of Forgiveness, I have very strong opinions.
xlntperuvian, I don't think Alejandro knows that yet. I don't think Maria ever told him and I'm not sure if anyone else knows.
I also agree that Nadia isn't connecting the dots about Gracie's connexion to Sandro's murder. I don't think this is about intelligence so much as about her paranoia over what could happen to Victoria right now.
One more thing: When EZ was writing those "In the event of my death or disappearance" letters he should have written one to Alejandro telling him that Pedro was the "accident victim" and that he held him responsible for the loss of the combo plate. In fact, since he was determined to bring Pedro down in the first place I don't know why he didn't tell Alejandro this a long time ago.
Unless that would have erased half of what happened after.
Hope they don't mess with Dimi's redemption.
The sympathy I had for Adolfo is gone. He's such a coward. He would never have had a simple life with Fina. He knows that, yet he still kills.
I did feel like his crying at Ref's funeral was sincere and that he didn't really want to comfort Esme, but was kind of forced to.
UA: Now, Voyager had a narcissistic mother in it. Not as bad as Gracie, though. Is any as bad as Gracie?
Nanette, Now, Voyager is one of the all-time great films. (I was going to add "on the subject of the damage a mother can do", but it is a great film, period.) So glad you mentioned it.
The most powerful scene for me was last night, watching Esmeralda and her regret tormenting her. I almost cried right along with her. Just when they had chosen to give themselves a second chance. My sympathy for Adolfo is now over as well. He is destroying the lives of so many to try to give himself the life, that deep down he knows he can't have.
Highlight of the night was JL realizing his errors. Like Ale said at the beginning, they can't allow Pedro to pin them against each other. They have to unite, and with JL, Ale and Dim banding together, I have hope they will find a way to bring Pedro down. Enough is enough! And I don't believe Dimi would ally himself to Pedro. He is too smart for that. Plus he needs to be there for Fina when she finds out about Adolfo/El Alacran being the same person.
Maricruz
Susanlynn, I really like what you wrote about forgiveness. Very well stated and very true. I heard someone say that holding on to unforgiveness is like you drinking poison expecting the other person to die.
I too think that the JL/Ale hug was really awkward. I actually think that scene showed some really great acting. Now that they have hugged it out maybe they can get to work on taking down Pedro.
Adolfo... I have really enjoyed the actor's interpretation of this character. However, I am over Adolfo. I thought he had stooped to low at Refugio's funeral and "consoling" Esmeralda. But he hit rock bottom when he threatened Padre A. Time for his anvil for sure.
Graciela hit a new low for me last night. The lack of concern for her granddaughter was appalling. I don't know if she is faking her illness or not but whatever will be her downfall can't come hard or soon enough.
Caryn
Everyone will need shrinks.
As much as I like Alex Sirvent, how in the heck did he wander into this particular TN? He just seemed sleazy last night. While I'm sure he meant well... well he didn't help. Remember when we used to award Mr. Inappropriate for each episode during CME? I believe we could have awarded a winner for every episode of this. Last night there were several contenders, but my vote would have to go to Erik. I'm sure we're all glad that he's willing to be there for Esmeralda... Gack!
Carlos
were/are so refreshing, so talented and so catching. A few of your lines that were catching this time around were---the now moderately glammed up Graciela. My
thought, she needs to get glammed up on the inside not the outside.
And speaking of the devil, it's time to forgive your mother. When I read about the things that Gracie has done it hard to believe that Montse has forgiven her. That's why I call her St. Montse. Will Dimitrio become St. Dimi before this is over?
But realistically, if the kid dies
Alejandro and Montserrat will be much better off without her. QUE!!
It makes me wonder if there's something wrong with her head like a brain tumor.---Maybe but she could be faking it.
I didn't know that this will be your last recap---I will miss them
WOW! Tracy H.---You said it well.
That decision forces her now to deal with an unshaven, baby kidnapping, jealous monster.
Very sad that Refugio died. Some of us were hoping that he would pull through but it wasn't meant to be. Margarita Magana as Esmeralda did some super great acting. Even though it really wasn't real, she made me feel her pain. I wanted to cry with her. GREAT JOB Margarita.
Fatima---I don't know your situation at work but this is my
story. I once worked with a control freak tyrant. You wouldn't
believe the things that this guy did. Everyone despised him, even other managers. The personal Manager said that a guy like that should never be put in charge of people. Anyone that crossed him even in the slightest way would soon find themselves on their way out. This guy however was in solid with one of the companies owners so if you wanted to keep your job all you could do was put up with his yelling and I do mean yelling and screaming whenever he would go off. Maybe like Gracie he had a brain tumor, I don't know
Anyway Fatima, stay strong and hold your head up high. From what you have told us I know that you had great parents especially your father who taught you to think things through. Maybe that is why so many of us enjoy reading your comments each and every day. As I said, stay strong and remember you have the Caray people behind you.
the gringo
Wow
I cannot believe you caught this ever-so-dark capitulo. Lo siento. I applaud your optimism regards the TN turning a moral corner, however, as you noted, it is as dark and subversive as ever.
Why did Refu die? Why did they have to put Romina's life at risk? To grab a few more viewers for the last few bloated episodes? I think so. Neither of those things advance the plot but they are both sensational.
I loved your translations of the more idiomatic sentences:
Ese miserable [de Pedro Medina] está jugando con todos, colocándonos en situaciones que sacan lo peor de nosotros mismos. Quiere que peleemos entre nosotros mismos para debilitárnos.
This was masterfully done:
'Cue the Male chorus of doom.]
"I don't care if they condemn me if I can save the lives of other people."
Adolfo pulls himself to his feet and kisses the priest's hand. "Then I'm going to kill you, father."
[Gasp! Did he really say that?]'
Your narrative recap was superb. I join the chorus of those who sing your praises to the skies, dear Novela Maven.
Elna June
Sylvia: as a film historian I have many favorite films so it is hard for me to pick one. If pressed to choose one, I always say Now, Voyager. I have the biggest crush on Dr. Jaquith--and Claude Rains.
“Now, Voyager, sail thou forth, to seek and find."
The Hungry Angry Lonely Tired thing (HALT) is an acronym they use in AA. If you feel an urge to drink, stop and ask yourself what need you are really trying to fill with alcohol. (Nothing about aching legs though!)
Hey Sylvia, what makes you think I'm NOT writing it just to make you laugh? :D
BTW, I'm also a fan of Now Voyager.
AuntyAnn, you're welcome! Thanks for stopping by. I always appreciate your comments here. I have the sense that you are a person of boundless energy, a sort of living Energizer Bunny. :-)
xintperuvian, I'm delighted you enjoyed the recap. I admit I was hoping that Refugio would survive, but I guess neither of us should be surprised at his fate.
"My hubby refers to this as "thinning the herd." At the rate we're going Aqua Azul will have tens of people residing within its borders by the time this is over."
Good one! Hahaha
Dear Julia R:
It's especially sweet to read an appreciation from a talented writer and a teammate. I'm glad you liked my Victor/Adolfo analysis. That was actually fun to write. Thank you so much -- the pleasure is all mine!
Nanette:
Thank you!
"Hope they don't mess with Dimi's redemption."
I know, I know.
As for Adolfo, I believe he is capable of suffering and that the tears he sheds are real. The problem is that he is always crying for himself.
I forgot to say I was quite tickled by today's title. I just love any and all Wizard of Oz references.
Nanette, that is a beautiful excerpt. I had forgotten where the title came from.
Novela Maven...I had no idea about HALT and it's AA connection. I just thought that you had selected some good adjectives to describe Grrrrrr....and my demeanor when returning home after class. Well, those days may be gone because I just checked and one of the full time teachers has commandeered my two classes. She will get them unless the enrollment does not go above 15. Ah well, C'est la vie, n'est-ce pas?
Speaking of adjectives and tipping my hat to LT..that was a DamGood final recap, NM. Thanks for all your wonderful, clever, insightful recaps of this novela. Now back to the DamSuitcase.
"Carlos: was Alex Sirvent in CME?"
No, I don't think so. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. In CME, so many of the male characters acted so inappropriately, so often, that we entertained ourselves by making nominations for the title of Mr. Inappropriate for each night and usually there was stiff competition for the title every evening. Erik forcing himself into Esmeralda's mourning and offering to "... be there for her... even if just as a friend..." reminded me of that, considering the circumstances.
NovelaMaven,
"Hey Sylvia, what makes you think I'm NOT writing it just to make you laugh? :D"
In each of your recaps I always find at least one comment or line that seems as though it was written specifically for me and I'll bet everyone here feels exactly the same... that's just how talented a writer you are.
Carlos
Yes, they did throw everything but the kitchen sink at us last night. After a while, it is just TOO MUCH. That's why I had to write almost the entire recap from the safety of the Bunker of Ironic Detachment. Even in the Bunker, though, Esmeralda got to me last night.
I hope you are right about Dimi!
Thank you for your kind words and for all your thoughtful and generous comments over the months. I really appreciate them.
Hey Eli!
Thanks for stopping by! I'm so glad you liked the recap. It was a good episode to miss!
Caryn:
You are very welcome. I'm happy you liked the title. And I certainly agree with you that Graciela hit a new low last night.
Carlos:
Double yikes is right. (And thems strong words.) I love the idea of Mr. Inappropriate. I'll keep the title in mind when I watch tonight.
"In each of your recaps I always find at least one comment or line that seems as though it was written specifically for me and I'll bet everyone here feels exactly the same... that's just how talented a writer you are."
Or maybe I'm thinking of you when I'm writing...hm?
Dear Gringo:
What a lovely comment. I'm really flattered that you enjoy my recaps so much.
I think St. Montse is an inspired name. Will we get a St. Dimi before all is said and done? I dunno. :)
My dear Elna June:
I'm fear there are more dark chapters to come. I don't think anyone on Team Robo will escape untouched. Do you?
"Why did Refu die? Why did they have to put Romina's life at risk? To grab a few more viewers for the last few bloated episodes? I think so. Neither of those things advance the plot but they are both sensational."
I can almost buy into Refugio's death as, if not intrinsic to the plot, at least important in its effects on JL and on Dimitrio, not to mention the Esme subplot. But I thought the meningitis thing was detestable.
Did you like my translations? They are so much fun to do. It's a real challenge to be true to the essence of the original but convey the right idiomatic nuance in English. It's so easy to sound stilted or to come up with something that is "correct" but that no one would ever say.
Thank you so much. You know how much I value your opinion!
That was dam good of you to remind me of our glory days in La Tempestad. At least there, the local joint had a great band AND a parrot. Thanks for sweet words, amiga!
Bummer about the full-time teacher co-opting your classes. We'll have to keep our fingers crossed that enough students enroll so you can be in the classroom, even if you come home HALT and with aching legs. :D
By the way, when hub and I went to see "Get On Up
" , they showed previews for the movie "Addition" with our very own DamWilliam in it. It looks h.o.t.
I was just reviewing all the fabulous comments from everyone and saw your response to my earlier one:
"You know I was thinking of you when I got on a bit of a Spanish roll last night. "Sicario," alas, comes up a lot in novelas I've seen. "
I just wanted to say that what you wrote really brightened my evening! And I want to tell you again how much I appreciate all your work and the special attention you take in your recaps that benefit all the readers (vocabulary, grammar, humor, irony, intelligent insights). The work of all the recappers, as I've said many times, definitely elevate the telenovela-watching experience.
You and all the recappers are amazing! It's so fun to see the Spanish (all the lines that you've so diligently transcribed from last night's episode) and realize what an extraordinary language Spanish is.
Thanks, NovelaMaven for all those little details that I'm sure are quite time-consuming for you to provide but that I value so much!
I thought that Alfonsina's baby was Zeke's after all since Dr. Nesme was found to be sterile. Or am I remembering wrong?
Carlos
I guess I won't re-quote the many lines that made me laugh, except the summation of Gracie's behavior "that...makes me wonder if there's something wrong with her head -- like a brain tumor, por ejemplo...] Also liked the visit to "the sick bed, the very sick bed, of the now moderately glammed up Graciela."
You've given us stellar blocks of plot summary laced with stabs of snark and and studded with jewels of grammar. And, you make it all seem so effortless. (It's late and this may be as awkward as JL and Alejandro's hug.)
Good point in a comment that Fofito's tears are all for himself. Gracie's pain may be real, but so is her venom.
I don't know if you will see this, but just in case --
Please know that I appreciate your kind and thoughtful comments. We recappers are so lucky to have smart, generous readers like you.
Thank you so much. The pleasure has been entirely mine.
P.S. I'm going to be recapping the insanely silly "Reina de Corazones" over on Telemundo, sharing Tuesdays with Elna June.
What a pity about Refugio, just when things were getting better between him and Esmeralda. Esmeralda should have seen his point of view, what man would want his wife to be ogled by other men? It was a sad episode
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