Tuesday, February 10, 2015

Que Te Perdone Dios on Monday, February 9, 2015.

Di and Mateo are talking and getting intimate when Fausto zones in on them. Simona comes out in need of a doctor and Mateo goes off with her; thus Fausto has the opportunity to smack Di around. She then lies fot her life and Fausto has subtle mercy on her.

Effie and Eddie are ready to hit the sack.

Di realizes that Mateo's love is genuine and that pisses Fausto off some more.

PatPrize and Ren are at the table when Abi comes in.

Di drives off leaving Fausto with the words in his mouth.

Two people are having sex (I didn't see who they were.)

Simona thanks Mateo for his help and showers him with good humor, compliments and smiles.

Fausto walks in to give Lucio money for all his trouble and a talking to.

MACgiftcard has something up her sleeve.

Two guys are impeded in an escapade by a girl.

In a bar, there is a bevy of men (too many, even for ny taste.) Diego and Lucio act as if they're about to fight forasomething when they don't and Fausto comes in.

Tia Mia and Di talk about Fausto.

Diego has just pushed Fausto's berserk button and is having the stuffing beat out of him. Lucio then beats up another guy because IDK and it's hiur typical Machista Bar Fight.

Renata is having nightmarea about Fausto beating her up ans rapinh her, then wakea up.

Abi is remembering her kissing Mateo

Mateo is as well.

MACgiftcard is in a frenzy.

Abi has gone outside and Fausto is accosting her .She doesn't tolerate it.

Connie has officially lost it. She shoykd have accepted Mel's help.

Fausto is about to accost the life out of a dormant Renata.

PatPrize and Mateo

Fausto eyes Renata's dormant self zome more.

MACgiftcard abuses Abi a bad amount.

Vicenta scolds Diego for having gotten in a fight and you know, typical stuff a Mexican grandma would chide you for.

Fausto is in the dark biding his time when Renata wakes up askinh who ia there. She squabbles with Fausto as usual.

Mandy has prepared a lovely meal for Mateo amd they discuss Renata.

Fausto and Renata are talking and yoi know it's weird because at one point Ren looks like she i going to laigh.

Vicenta and Mandy- Abi and Mateo are eating when PatPrize comes in and eats as well.

Mandy has served Fausto food at a baron table and taht is the end of the episode.

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[Here are a few more details for you from ViviDC that merit being included. --edit.]

Mateo blabbed to Fausto that he and Diana have been seriously seeing each other for a year, not the short, non-serious flirtation Diana had led Fausto to believe. Diana's excuse was that she loves Fausto and wants to be his wife. She's getting tired of living in the shadows. Diana also swore to Fausto that she and Mateo have NEVER had sex. Fausto is her only man.Mateo would marry her. She pressures Fausto to get rid of Renata and marry her. Both Fausto and her aunt point out that he would be left with nothing if he divorced Ren. Her basic reply is if there is a will, there's a way. 

Fausto's reaction to this is to think real hard about Ren and their marriage, the benefits (money, power), and the lack of benefits (no sex, no kids). Hearing Pat telling Mateo about having to give Ren a sedative because of her nightmares, seemed to change his mind about raping her. Why? Maybe he likes his victims completely awake? Or maybe he realized Mateo and Pat would hear the screams and beat the crap out of him? Anyway, when she wakes up in the morning they argue about him being in her room, the long ago rape, why she won't have bis kids, and then he asks for her help help convincing Mateo to dump Diana. Ren is amused by this because she suspects Diana is his mistress.  

Simona took Mateo to treat the sick baby of a poor neighbor. She tells Mateo she has been nominated by one of the parties to run for mayor. Mateo thinks this is great, but tells her Fausto has been nominated by another party. This makes Simona more determined to run.

The couple getting it on was glasses sister and the mechanic. Meanwhile, the other sister was getting it on with Simona's barely legal son. Both had to escape through the window. Both were paid for their services by the sisters. The sisters' maid (Abi's friend) is the one who caught them, but she doesn't seem to disapprove. 

Diego and Benito were trying to convince some of the men at the cantina to leave Fausto and to come work with them. Lucio and Fausto didn't like this one bit. Fight!

Fausto paid Lucio well for being his whipping boy and taking the blame for kicking out Mat's mom. Lucio then revealed to Fausto that Macacria is planning to betray Fausto and tried to enlist him. Fausto tells Lucio that Mac has the gun they killed Pedro with. They plan that Lucio will pretend to go along with Mac's plan, and find out where she has that gun.

Meanwhile, it seems that Mac just keeps the gun in her bedroom just wrapped in a handkerchief, while she talks crazy holding it. When Abi goes out for a midnight stroll, Mac accuses her of having been out having sex with Diego and that she'll come back pregnant by a peon, just like Renata...She stops herself before she spills anymore beans.

Mateo, Patricio and Ren all decide to eat in the kitchen, leaving Fausto alone at the big table. This is in solidarity with Abi, who Fausto has now banned from the big table.

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Morning, Corazon. Thanks for the mini-recap. Here are a few more details for you.

Mateo blabbed to Fausto that he and Diana have been seriously seeing each other for a year, not the short, non-serious flirtation Diana had led Fausto to believe. Diana's excuse was that she loves Fausto and wants to be his wife. She's getting tired of living in the shadows. Mateo would marry her. She pressures Fausto to get rid of Renata and marry her. Both Fausto and her aunt point out that he would be left with nothing if he divorced Ren. Her basic reply is if there is a will, there's a way.

Fausto's reaction to this is to think real hard about Ren and their marriage, the benefits (money, power), and the lack of benefits (no sex, no kids). Hearing Pat telling Mateo about having to give Ren a sedative because of her nightmares, seemed to change his mind about raping her. Why? Maybe he likes his victims completely awake? Or maybe he realized Mateo and Pat would hear the screams and beat the crap out of him? Anyway, when she wakes up in the morning they argue about him being in her room, the long ago rape, why she won't have bis kids, and then he asks for his help convincing Mateo to dump Diana. Ren is amused by this because she suspects Diana is his mistress.

 

Typo- He asks for her help.


Simona took Mateo to treat the sick baby of a poor neighbor. She tells Mateo she has been nominated by one of the parties to run for mayor. Mateo thinks this is great, but tells her Fausto has been nominated by another party. This makes Simona more determined to run.

The couple getting it on was glasses sister and the mechanic. Meanwhile, the other sister was getting it on with Simona's barely legal son. Both had to escape through the window. Both were paid for their services by the sisters. The sisters' maid (Abi's friend) is the one who caught them, but she doesn't seem to disapprove.

Diego and Benito were trying to convince some of the men at the cantina to leave Fausto and to come work with them. Lucio and Fausto didn't like this one bit. Fight!

Fausto paid Lucio well for being his whipping boy and taking the blame for kicking out Mat's mom. Lucio then revealed to Fausto that Macacria is planning to betray Fausto and tried to enlist him. Fausto tells Lucio that Mac has the gun they killed Pedro with. They plan that Lucio will pretend to go along with Mac's plan, and find out where she has that gun.

Meanwhile, it seems that Mac just keeps the gun in her bedroom just wrapped in a handkerchief, while she talks crazy holding it. When Abi goes out for a midnight stroll, Mac accuses her of having been out having sex with Diego and that she'll come back pregnant by a peon, just like Renata...She stops herself before she spill s anymore beans.

Mateo, Patricio and Ren all decide to eat in the kitchen, leaving Fausto alone at the big table. This is in solidarity with Abi, who Fausto has now banned from the big table.


 

Oh, Diana also swore to Fausto that she and Mateo have NEVER had sex. Fausto is her only man. Yeah, right!
 

Vicenta looked mighty upset to learn that Diego had fought with Fausto. This right after Diego lamented the fact that he couldn't even remember his mama who ran off, and had no idea who his daddy is. Vic said that she was abuela, mother and father to him, but he said it wasn't the same thing.
 

thanks CS and Vivi. I only saw the first fifteen minutes and will watch the rest tonight.

so..The King of Everything is making a list of pros and cons between his wife and his mistress.

It looks like the young dudes sneaking in and out of the randy sisters bedrooms is going to be a continuing theme.
 

Thanks CS and Vivi, good recapping! I really really like the doc, it was nice to see Renata crack a smile when she found everyone having breakfast in the
cooks kichen. The previews for tonight show Fausto drowning Diana. His ego cant handle her with Mateo, he just vile man. Ita with Constanza that he is the devil. He would totally rape Abigail if he had chance.
 

Thank you for the imput CS and Vivi!

I knew that Fausto would be a bit of a conflicted character ,we know he is an evil piece of stuff but i guess some could relate with him LOL . I loved how Di gave the middle finger to Fausto but i doubt it will last for long,money and obsession shall make a call. Also doubt that Lucio will keep the alliances straight ,he only cares about himself and his desires .If it wasnt for his emotions towards Mac ,both Faucet and Mac would be feeling his Wrath.
But he is a conflicted character as well so we shall see what the future holds for him !

The sisters are cute and all but i couldnt care less about the Brothers ,they only seem to serve as comic relief so far ..
 

Thanks to both CS and ViviDC! I had to rush through the epi and no CC this time even on Hulu. So the two recaps together filled in so much more and are both truly appreciated! (Don't worry about the violins, just makes me mad I cannot get all the lingo the first pass through when that happens and have to race off to work!) The nuances were obviously lost on me.

Diana loves playing with fire and gambling would be an addiction if she were truly exposed to a boat up here!

I want to see more of glasses lady's hunk! YUMMY!
 

Fausto is physically affectionate with Lucio (when he's not being physically abusive), not unsimilar to a dog, petting his cheek and grabbing him by the scruff of the neck. I was surprised by Lucio's display of loyalty, but it makes sense that it could be a double, double cross. He is in a good position, because now both Fausto and Mac will not suspect when he is dealing with the other party, and he can choose how to play it out.

I thought the way Fausto made fun of Abi was kind of funny. I don't think him menacing her is funny, but the facial expression was.

"Subtle mercy" is a great way to capture that what Fausto apparently accepted to Diana's face is given the lie as shown in the avances. He really acts out what he wants to convey to achieve his ends, whether saying he forgives Diana, or saying he loves Renata. I think that makes him more dangerous.

My husband pointed out that Diego was bleeding but Fausto was unmarked. It looked like everybody got as good as they gave, so why no bruises/cuts for him?

Just some thoughts. Mostly centered around Fausto!

TN4ever
 

Corazon--Please put in a page break.

Ok, now I'll get down to reading everything. Be back later.
 

TN4ever- Everyone has called Lucio Fausto's "loyal dog" and that's exactly how Fausto treats him and how Lucio behaves.
 

Thank you CS & Vivi--Can't add much to the duo-recap or the comments. This seems like a "I know where this is going" telenovela, with some interesting deviations.

Lucio, whom I thought was going to be a minor supporting character, is now pivotal. He acts like a dunce around Fausto.

Diana--Everybody seems to know who and what she is except dunderhead Mateo. She is good at pulling the wool, then more wool over his eyes. In his bed scene, reliving the kiss he and Abi shared, he *knows* he has feelings for her. His kiss with Diana was just slobber. (And thank you, Televisa, for showing The Kiss again. After the third time, I still got some tingles out of it and he wasn't even kissing me!)

I was surprised Fausto didn't go through with the unconscious woman sex act. That would have been so ho hum. But, I think he stopped when he heard the voices of Mateo and Patricio outside the door. I think he was considering the possibility when he was stopped. That's when he began to reflect. It was kind of sad and creepy to see him sit down, cover himself with a blanket and just watch over the sleeping Renata.

Obvio, he told her he never cared for her to save face. But come on, he's had about 18 years to repair the damage between them, especially if he loved her. She was a very young girl, compared to him. We've decided he was about 30-something then? There were nearly 20 years difference between them.

Maybe he assumed that since she had had relations with said Peon Pablo, she was ready for a real man. What on earth makes men think they can conquer a female by force, especially these days (18 years ago might have been 1997--and that wasn't so long ago). [OT-it's about to happen over on Quiero Amarte today or tomorrow.]

Maybe his way of showing he loves her is by not forcing himself on her, but also by keeping her subdued and imprisoned so no one else can get to her. He should fear Patricio--a lot.
 

Fausto is a scumbag but i guess he does "love " her to some degree and has some respect. But he is still a killer, a rapist and a deranged man who would do anything to keep his wealth,he is virtually obsessed with Money .I guess he loved her but lost the hope because of Pablo's phantasm ? If he havent took her by force,i would have felt more sorry for him but he is lost for good.
 

OK, someone who watched and paid attention to the episode when Bruno's will was read, can you tell me what happens to the ranch and all the money if either Renata or Fausto files for a divorce? Does the other person get everything? Or does the money/ranch go to some other party? Connie is included too, right?

What happens if one of them dies (of natural causes or otherwise)?

If Renata had enough money stashed away to buy Fausto's ranch, surely she must have enough to get away and live comfortably. I understand she stuck around until now to be close to Abi. Why doesn't she suggest that she and Abi (and Mac) move into El Enramada and be done with it (and Fausto)?
 

Vivi Fausto is just a vessel,a careholder for Bruno's fortunes ( And curses) . I think if anyone attempted divorce and succeded ,it would all come to Ren's hands. Thats why Fausto is so decicent in not letting her go,he could have dumped or hitting her all day long but the Will prohibits Him from ever laying a hand on her.
Fausto actually does not own anything ,the fortune is all assigned to Ren's and in case of abuse ,it is all Ren's,as soon as Ren leaves or marries or annules the marriage in any way,Faucet is back to Dirt One!
 

Then why the heck hasn't she left him then?!!!! I thought something in the will tied Ren to Fausto.
 

I think she doesn't want to leave her daughter Abi. And she probably thinks she can't run away and not be found. Plus, an item in the will says she can't leave the rancho.
 

Thanks Corazon and Vivi---I can't wait for tonight to see how Diana will get away from Fausto. He looked determined to kill her.

Right Vivi---Abi and Ren should move into Abi's new ranch house.
Fausto can eat alone every night.
the gringo
 

"Plus, an item in the will says she can't leave the rancho."

Anon- This is the clause I'm trying to figure out. She can't leave the ranch, or what? Isn't it that if she leaves she loses rights to all the money/ranch? I thought that was the kicker and what induced the tears and wailing when the will was read.
 

What episode was the will reading? I think I'm going to have to watch the episode and figure this out.
 

Fausto's face at the end of the episode was priceless. I wonder what's going to happen tonight with Diana. Will she die?

What is Lucio going to do now? Who will he help? Fausto or Macaria?
 

TF- I don't think Lucio as as cunning as Rubio (La Malquerida) who was able to serve THREE masters at the same time (really 4, if you count Cris) and never get caught. We'll see, but it seems to me like he's selling Mac out to Fausto for real.
 

Vivi--It could be that Lucio knows which side of the butter the bread comes from [sic on purpose]. Fausto still pays Lucio for jobs outside his capataz salary, but with Macaria, Lucio would have to do the paying. I'm sure he hates to part with money, unless it's for tequila.
 

Corazon and Vivi, thanks for the recap and supplemental details.

Fausto's doing well in his portrayal. Harsh, selfish, evil, etc., yet still creates a smidgen of sorrow for his messed up heart. Or am I just too soft?
 

Thank you very much CS and Vivi.

We've just received another 3 feet of snow since Friday so I have been digging out. Ugh.

Watched the episode on demand (work cancelled second day in a row).

Surprised Fausto is falling for Diana's lies. He must really be smitten. Blech.

Will go back and read the comments tomorrow - out to shovel. Again.

Diana
 

Diana...so sorry to hear that you have been hit by another big snow. Stay safe.
 

You're right, Vivi. I don't think Lucio will help Mac. I am not even so sure Mac will ever be interested in him. Unless, she just pretends to be so she can use him.
 

Vivi I just rewatched the part of Cap. 4 re: the will. After naming Fausto the albacea and saying he must keep the ladies in the style to which they are accustomed, it just says "and under no circumstances should either of them leave the hacienda." Then it goes on to say Renata should be able to see Abi grow up and be her madrina. It says if Fausto doesn't fulfill his duties, he stops being the albacea, but it doesn't say what would happen to Ren or Con if they were to leave.
 

Thanks so much Anon for looking back! So there is nothing actually keeping Ren and Connie la Loca there. Other than Bruto the Bastard saying they have to stay. And nothing keeping Ren from kicking Fausto's rapist, cheating, mustachioed behind out and getting a divorce. What the heck is she waiting for?!
 

Vivi--Maybe she was too young to understand the terms and Fausto has kept her in the dark. I suspect Connie went loca right after Brujo died his untimely death and has no clue either.

I'm pretty sure they were there at the reading of the will. Did they ask any questions or get any explanations from the notario?

That's where Ren should start--wanting to look at the will.
 

If Ren left the hacienda, THERE WOULD BE NO TELENOVELA!
 

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