Saturday, June 13, 2015

Weekend Discussion: Love -- Reality or Poetic Delusion?




I actually know a few people who don't think love exists at all.  Some of them had highly toxic parents and a couple of them have had disappointing love lives (one I suspect never had one).  A few other people I know are so confounded by differences between men and women they refuse to believe it is possible to understand the other at all.  It's possible that they are too lazy to try.



Sometimes I even wonder about us, especially when someone writes "They are so in lurrrrve" or similar.  That looks either sarcastic or incredulous.

We can never discount the power of attraction; Telenovelas, movies, opera, etc., all capitalize on it. However, I believe that the next essential element in love is honest communication, which goes both ways. It is the only way that a relationship of equals can work.  One-way communication works for a while with subordinate beings such as children and pets, but that needs to change over time.

Some people believe that the only love in the world is between a mother and her children.  I refuse to believe that.  I know my cats love me; that is only doubted by people who don't appreciate cats. Romantic love is considerably more complex.

Your thoughts, everyone.

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Love is a reality. My parents had an unhappy marriage . They stayed together, but I grew up with a lot of fighting . However, I was determined not to get myself into that kind of unhappy, frustrsting situation . I met a great guy in high school, and we dated for a few years whike he went into the service and to school and I went to college. We have been married many years , and we have been through both good and bad/sad times together. He has been a good husband, father, and grandfather. He was also always there for both his parents and mine. We are still in love after all these years. We never stopped dating. He is my best friend and closest confident. Love is a reality.
 

Well for me love as long as it lasts. When that love is gone, it's a free ticket to Hell for some.
As one of my teachers said " Love till you can and what you can, if not the flesh love the trees. Just don't stop loving"
My hilarious history teacher said " Women love bringing problems in our house but without problems all would cease to exist"



 

WOW Susanlynn. What a beautifull story. I and I'm sure many others are so envious. Thank You.
 

Love can be found if one is open to it and reciprocates the love given. Even chidren, like abandoned dogs, can overcome their feelings and complexes to open their souls to live in light of true love. Without the gesture and willingness, nothing will come their way and they will just be their way and they will just be perpetuating their disillusion.
 

I'm sorry that there are people in this world that have been so hurt by someone who claimed to love them or some situation that involved someone they loved, That caused them to completely give up on love. And then they blame love for the pain. Love doesn't hurt people. people's expectations hurt them and then they say stupid stuff like "I'm never going to love again, its to painful.
I've learned that some of that pain is caused by selfness,some people just want to take take take and never giving back , at least not the way THEY think it should be given back to them.
Theres something I've learned about love, it doesn't work well with selfishness. But delt with in the right way, it could last forever through anything. Anybody thats Blessed to find it with the right person it could last throughout eternity. everybody has a different take on love that's mine I'm still learning though as I think everybody else is too. I'm happy for all whose been blessed to have it in their life. It's priceless. Hold on to it.
some people might say I'm living in a fantasy world, no the fantasy is thinking that you can live without it.
It really does make the world go around. But your heart has to be open to it.

 

Love is absolutely one of the most complex emotions and concepts I can imagine. I think that's why we're so fascinated by it, why it has inspired countless works of art and study. Our understanding and definition of it is so prone to evolution, throughout history, throughout worlds or regions, even throughout one's lifetime.

Telenovelsa are a perfect place to explore and discuss love. Usually in the span of a few months, we see the extremes across a broad spectrum: "true" love, unrequited love, romantic, paternal (maternal), fraternal (sororal), perverse. We see all the ways that love can be twisted into something else entirely and used to manipulate with malevolent intent.

Today, in the US, I'd like to think most people view romantic love as a meeting of minds coupled with a desire for intimacy, physical and otherwise. I think we strive for an equal effort from the parties involved and like to see this declared with words and supported by actions. In the very best novelas, imo, there's a demonstration of that effort. Not just the love and the suffering when the protagonists are apart, but work on both sides to get the relationship back together. There are sacrifices made on both ends to be together. I think that's what makes it a fairy tale love to me, the happy ever after is both earned and granted.
 

Hellashelle...What a wonderful and insightful comment. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. There are so many types and ways to love. Everyone needs love, but love does not always come in a romantic sense. Kindness is love. Compassion is love. Empathy is love.

I think that it is hard to find romantic love if you do not believe in it. You have to believe it to achieve it, and you have to be lucky enough to have the right person cross your path.




 

Nina: loved this: "the fantasy is thinking that you can live without it"

Hellashelle: loved this: "the happy ever after is both earned and granted."
 

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