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Hey guys! Gotta get used to a weekday recap again. Here it is. Haven't edited yet and may do a little more tweaking. This was supposed to be brief. Hope I didn't leave out anything important but you know I'm open to correction and expansion.

Hopefully back in a bit!
 

LILA you recap is great! It was pretty grim watching poor Tania's downward spiral (I mean, before she jumped) but your recap captured some of the little lighter moments too: "The dove looks like 'what the. . .' as Tania reaches for it." Dove was a darn fine little actor!

Well, we all had a bad feeling when Tania said she had taken her last drink...Pedro reclaimed a bit of humanity after his chat with Fidel; good thing, he is going to feel bad enough as it is.

J in Oregon


 

Hey J in O! Thanks, kid! Yah, when I saw them having Tania go over and over the same arguments and just being a total drama queen I was thinking, "how can they keep this up for another 150 or so shows?" Well, I got my answer.

Tania. . .Que en paz descansa; Riposa in pace
 

Thank you, Lila. Great recap, and so quickly, too!

I'm bummed. I liked Tania, insecurities, alcoholism and all. Don't like that she's gone so soon. I was looking forward to some Jessica Coch badness (think Gala) popping up at Rancho Los Angeles and seeing her go toe-to-toe with the vultures! Que Lastima! RIP, Tania.

On the other hand, at least we'll be spared more of Fifi's metiche-ness! Dang, that girl was all up in Tania and Pedro's business, even letting herself into the apartment. Really, Fiorella?? Just what did she call herself doing? There's being nice and caring, and then there's really stepping over the line! Can't wait until someone noses into HER business!

Jessie
 

Thanks for your great recap, Lila.

Sorry that Tania was so despondent over her breakup with Pedro, but I couldn't take another minute more of her wailing, nor her taking pills with a drink!! But, may she rest in peace.

Ann-NYC

 

Gracias for your great recap Lila. I have found this episode depressing and sad but it was still likable. We all knew that Tania was a vournable person that yearned for love. I agree with Fifi that Pedro's pretty darn cold and unlikable but she does not know the other side of the story. That doesn't mean I am fond of Pedro yet though. Because of his past he has lost respect and trust for all women except for his Grandma. He treats them like gutter trash. I believe that Tania could have been saved if Pedro had given her more compassion even if it was not worth it in the end because the family would eat her alive. Jessica Coch did a great job with the character. RIP Tania.

Dante sure is mysterious, who does he actually work for? Sooner or later he might get tired of the constant humiliations and sell out the family to the highest bidder. What secret is Eloisa hiding that it causes her chest pain and what disease does she have?

Benito's antics may be funny for now on but I wonder what will happen when Gigi's health worsens at the expense of his jokes. I don't see Vittorio turning evil but he will make a great Italian Lasagna out of Benito once the truth comes out!

I like Fidel teaching responsibility to Pedro. Pedro never really had a true dad to accompany him through his fears. He only has Grandma and Fidel to count on.

 

Thank you Lila! Friday and then Monday. You rock! Thanks for clearing things up for me regarding the Dante and Eloisa convos.
 

J in O thanks for checking in so early this morning!


Welcome, Jessie! Thanks and so happy you're joining us! Yah, Jessie, I didn't get a hateful vibe from Tania and didn't see her demise coming so quickly. I knew that Fifi would have a tender spot for her and take her part against Pedro, but alas, I guess she was just with us to show us how much in need of light and love PEDRO is because we know that Fifi will open his heart one day. I guess we are to also think the process had begun as Fidel had convinced Pedro to accept the baby.

And you are right: Fifi WAS all up in their bidness! I guess we're supposed to think she's so and caring and a brave defender of Love. Now. Talk about a show down at Rancho Los Angeles! Can you imagine here THERE?


Thank you and welcome, Ann-NYC! You echo my sentiments exactly. Poor Tania was so over the top with her grief I just knew it couldn't last for long. Looks like we're in for some "how could you have done that to that girl?" from Fifi because she's bold enough to confront him! THAT's not going to go over well!


Thanks, Count! We all are somewhat surprised at Tania's quick exit. I've seen the actress before, can't recall the role, but she did bring the suffering, didn't she?

ITA on Dante. Anybody else get a more clear understanding of that little face off between he and Eloisa? Good questions you pose about them both, Count. And yes, I noted earlier that Benito may have good intentions toward the girls (though I think more selfish) but he has no idea of the serious heart condition Gigi has. Adela and Ray appear to be good, honest folk but he's a doorman and she, perhaps, is also a housekeeper. They can't pay for her care.

Re Fidel. I wonder if Pedro consulted him before he even began the relationship with Tania!








 

Morning, dear Sara! Thank you and you are welcome! Have a great day at school today!
 

Thanks so much Lila. I have to catch this episode in full since I worked late last night. Great recap! Missed the whole weekend commenting with crazy family stuff, but back to trying to catch up.

I too am a bit bummed that we lost the main female I thought would be our sticking point to the main couple. Guess Jessica/Tania was purely a setup to make our Ella think Pedro is the scum of the earth ( actually she's not too far from that right now) and he has to win her back. Tania may have grated, but she was a mess that needed help and I sort of got that Pedro having this fling with her and wanting it secret was pretty messed up on his part. Man got his wakeup call.

Have to see the repercussions tonight. TV is MINE!

Daisynjay
 

Wait a minute. I question Benito's motives but am willing to entertain some Patio members giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think his motives are selfish and could end up hurting Gigi. Don't want to talk out of both sides of my mouth!


Daisynjay! Hey, girl! Yep. Tania was a plot device. I don't know what Pedro, being so concerned about his conservative family, could have been thinking hooking up with Tania with her very public and disastrous "love" life. Are we supposed to think that she didn't do booze and pills until Pedro started keeping her as an undercover lover? Yah. Wakeup call, indeed!
 

Daisynjay, I am putting Pedro's photo on the dartboard today. While I think saying that Tania could have been saved from alcoholism and depression if Pedro had more compassion is a gross oversimplification of both diseases (not to mention as Susanlynn pointed out... Enabling), he has not been galan like at all.
 

Ding, ding, ding, ding! We have our first target on the dartboard! PEDRO! I'm sure we'll soon populate it some more as well as start doing some decorating around here. Sara, you are right, our galan needs redeeming already! Sheesh!
 

Just be careful around the dartboards. The paint is still a little wet.
 

Hee hee! :D
 

Good morning, Lila. Thank you for this, and loved your take on our seedy little love story.

I frankly am surprised that Pedro hung in there as long as he did with Tania. He has provided her with multiple rehab/overdose treatment episodes, and still she has persisted in her self-destructive behavior. I know that we are supposed to see him as a cold fish, especially in Fifi's eyes, but really, after about the third date with her, shouldn't he have seen her needy, self abusive personality for what it was, and simply have refrained from calling her anymore? Oh, wait, knowing Tania, they probably wound up in bed during their third date, so that would muddy the waters for Pedro.

When she was still in school, my daughter considered getting a degree in psychology, with the intent of becoming a counselor, and I suggested that she not do this because I feel that counseling or treating that type of person is extremely unfulfilling. They rarely get better, and you wind up being part of their twisted support mechanism. She later took a job at a mental health facility and sadly realized that I was correct, and did not pursue her dream of becoming a counselor and saving the world.

I am still giving Benito a pass until we see more about his motives.

Of all the characters at this point, I am really liking Benito's mom. She seems to cut through all the crap and see situations for what they really are.

David
 

Lila - Thank you for the recap!

Why can’t Eloisa count out her own twenty drops of elixir? How difficult can it be? Sheesh! I smell a plot device.

Pedro staying in relationship with Tania just confounds me on several levels. Just did not make sense. RIP Tania.
 

Good morning and thank you, David! Excellent points, all! Agree that Pedro's involvement with Tania at all is a headscratcher. I totally understand your sentiment about your daughter's career choice. I am a Social Worker myself but I never quite felt that working with people with addiction problems was my calling though working with parents of babies needing ICU care at birth, I did interact with some mothers who used drugs during their pregnancy. Long, sad story. At any rate, the work I do now is still challenging but it makes a lot of difference when the people you work with seek you out and fully want to be a partner in confronting their situation.

Oh yeah, we're all going to be watching Benito and ITA about his mom: I've got a feeling we're going to need a lot of crap-cutting on this journey!

 

Doris! Thank you, hon! BINGO! Yes, the at least second blatant plot device of the episode. Man! Didn't they broadcast that? Why indeed can't she count out her own drops? As rich as she is, why can't she have the Pharmacist put twenty little drops into tiny, single use vials that she can squirt into water herself? Oh yeah, so now we no a triple dose of magic elixir will send her to meet her Maker. I think the fiesty old broad will see quite a number of our cast buried before she crosses over!
 

Lila- Running out the door, so a quick and BIG thank you for this most excellent recap.

Poor Tania. But her problems with drugs, alcohol, and low self esteem did not begin with Pedro. From the sound of it, she has been doing this for a long time (way before the year she has known Pedro), and it's only since she's been with him that she even attempted to get help. Frankly, I don't think we can judge their relationship based on what we saw. We were seeing a relationship at the end, when the one person was tired and frustrated with the other person (she, tired of being hidden; he, tired of her falling off the wagon and making false promises). I certainly don't think he's always treated her so harshly. But just think of someone who has frustrated you for a long time, and if you are still petting and cooing over them by that point. I bet not.

I kind of like that our heroine is not above listening at doors. Villains always get the best info that way, while the good guys are ignorant. More later...
 

....and then THAT happened. thanks, Lila, for bravely going where nobody should have to go and recapping that episode. Yikes talk about your doom and gloom.

David, I have several friends who are psychologists , and I just do not know how they keep their own cool. My best friend's daughter sometimes works 12hour days listening to people with big problems. She said that it is especially difficult because so many people are in need of psychologists for their children and there aren't many of those around here.

sigh

 

Vivi! Buongiorno amica mia e grazie! Hear! Hear! to not judging Tania and Pedro's relationship. Let poor Tania rest in peace and let the healing begin. I'm just afraid our Fifi will not be so forgiving. Let's see how she handles this!

Here is an EXCELLENT point I hadn't thought of:


I kind of like that our heroine is not above listening at doors. Villains always get the best info that way, while the good guys are ignorant.

Yah! That's soooo true! Ok. Ok. I can go with that!


Susanlynn, mia sorella, buongiorno e grazie! Yah. First 5 days and we have a body on the premises. It may not be a dark sombra, but I bet it's not the last!
 

Thanks Lila, I especially liked the way you got into the bird’s head with...”wtf.” That bird seemed tethered to the flower box somehow, hope they have the same PITA type rules for creatures in our novelas! The horses always seem to be treated well.

A couple of thoughts...

We’ve survived hard novelas because we’ve found a lot of goodness in the secondary characters, La Sombra a prime example. Other than our sisters and Benito’s parents, not seeing much goodness in secondary characters.....so far! Novelas have improved my patience, so I’ll just wait for the goodness to arrive. Hope I’m not disappointed.


Just a few days in and we already have an interesting conversation going on the patio about our galan. I think Vivi makes a good point about our having arrived at the Pedro, Tania scene late in the game, but, there is something about José Ron’s portrayal of our galan that is bringing a lot of ANGER, not exasperation, into play, and that is giving me a bad vibe about the character or his interpretation of the character. I don’t think his bad guy beard helps either. Again, I’m tapping into my novela patience to see how things unfold.

 

Thank you Lila amazing recap.

I liked Tania a lot even though she was annoying sometimes, and as the other people who have left comments have said she has had this issues way before him, just wished she had recovered. Looks like her death will be the right amount of guilt and regret Pedro will actually help him grow a better conscience.
 

Buongiorno e grazie, Sandy in TN! Ah, nice point about the secondary characters! I hope Sergio has a heart of gold beneath his tragi-comic drunken playboy exterior. Agree there's not much hope for the vultures. I like Vito. I hope his pursuit of Fifi and Gigi doesn't turn him into a baddie though we know he will NOT win Fifi's love in the way he imagines.

Our galan. Yah. I don't know how much of what people know about José Ron's past roles and acting style might be behind the growing anger and distaste on the patio. I know I've seen him but I'm not good for remembering past roles that much. . .well, I do of some people but he's not ringing a bell. Please know there is no judgement of anyone for whom José is leaking into Pedro! For one moment in the elevator he seemed a bit amused when she dismissed his effort to help get them unstruck but all of that was wiped out by his meanacing approach to her outside Tania's apartment and his overbearing and vocal dislike of Fifi working for Tania. He even was going to lay hands on Fifi and I don't mean to heal her! He was going to put her out of the apartment. His face, his body language and voice are all hard and prickly/edgy with Fifi and I'm interested in seeing if the actor and the character can pull out of this and show us some softening and opening. It may take a good hunk of time, though and agree with you in tapping into. . .novela patience to see how things unfold.
 

Really, really good Lila, thanks.

Having not seen one episode, I however question Pedro's decision making in chosing Tania in the first place. She had a history of scandal, what did the guy expect? My guess he wanted a broken plaything to stroke his ego.

 

David, Vivi--agree with you that Pedro not a total jerk, he did try to get help for Tania multiple times...but she clearly had a history of scandal and substance abuse, according to Adela. So a sticky end to the affair was predictable from the beginning. Love Fio's character, but right now sort of "meh" about Gianna, still annoyed that she deleted her sister's email account...

J in Oregon


 

Tofie! Thanks for checking in amica mia! Ditto your whole comment, child, just ditto!
 

Good morning Lila.....thank you for the early and wonderful recap! Tania left too soon. I was just warming up to her, I thought she was going to be a pivitable character in the story. Sorry to see her go.

So far loving the story, but eager for the girls to arrive at Rancho Los Angeles. What a welcome change thes e girls are from the pouting, snarling women in the past couple of TNs.
 

Make that piviotal

 

Thank you, Emeraldrose! Yep. I thought Tania would be pivotal as well. Hmmm. I guess she will be but in a different way! I wonder how Fifi and Gigi will end up at Rancho Los Angeles?

Now that Tania is gone, I also wonder how long before one of Fifi and Gigi's explorations in the neighborhood will take them to La Dolce Vita? It's probably not too far from Benito's apartment building. Adela may even suggest she go there to look for work and take her without Benito's knowledge, maybe while he's out with the P.I. That could be a possible fun and explosive trip!
 

I don't think that I have ever seen this galan before. His dark good looks appeal to me , but I like my heroes with a good-natured, kind, humorous streak. Pedro, so far, is harshing my mellow. He is so stern and joyless. Chill, hombre ! Have we seen him smile at anything or anyone ? Tania was just sucking sll the oxygrn out of the room. Wow..needy squared. She just made me feel fatigued. Definiteky a Debbie Downer. I am trying to get into this tn, but so far, it is depressing me.
 

I don't buy the thing with the email account deletion. You can never delete an Email account just like how you cannot perfectly delete your Facebook. The account can only get suspended/blocked but the data always stays somewhere because it is a server. So to me Gianna just deactivated Fio's account so with a tech junkie it can be brought back.

Regarding Tania I agree with Tofie that perhaps the reason Pedro stayed with her was because he wanted a plaything. He does not seem to trust women enough to take them for serious flings. He fears women because he is afraid that they will just end up controlling him .

Tania may not have had may appearances but I am sure her death will impact Pedro even more. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.




 

Good morning! Yay, I get to start my day with my coffee and a recap from Lila :D

"Fifi trots off happily enough but the privacy part is a fail as she blatantly listens just inside Tania’s bedroom as the discussion between Tania and Pedro ramps up." I could not decide whether to be amused or appalled at this...they're real people, not a live telenovela! For all that Fiorella was financially responsible for her entire family for however long, I think I underestimated how sheltered she is. At least she seems to have realized that Pedro isn't...er, wasn't...in love with Tania. So she's got at least that much sense when it comes to people.

"It seems an uneasy arrangement in which trusting Dante seems the least lethal option and she retains him to keep Pedro in the dark about a secret that Dante is privy to." That was interesting to me...the two of them don't seem to like each other at all, but are depending on each other to keep secrets. What could go wrong?

"Benito just thinks, and goes all dreamy as he says it, that it’s not right to track such a sweet and beautiful girl like she’s a fugitive." Um, hello! I think someone's a little smitten...or maybe a lot smitten! I'm bummed we didn't get to find out what his game is yet.

"Meanwhile, Tania starts spiraling deeper and deeper in a self-destructive vortex of self-pity." That was tough to watch. Once she'd decided that Pedro's "love" was the only thing she wanted and the thing that would somehow magically make everything ok, she was doomed.

"The dove ducks her grasping hands and with a screeeeeaaaam Tania falls to the pavement below!" Big shock for me! I was pretty sure the promo videos for the show were giving really broad hints that Tania wasn't long for this world, but I thought she'd be around a little longer at least. And I thought she'd accidentally die by overdose. Riposa in pace, indeed.

Back for more once I've made notes on some of these names or I'll be a total mess tonight! Thank you, Lila!
 

Such great comments this morning. I too think Tania, and her demise specifically, will be pivotal in that it will change Pedro. Perhaps it will make him reevaluate his values and the way he treats people. And I'm sure if he doesn't come by this naturally on his own, Fifi will be in his face loudly reminding him of what HE did to Tania.
 

Good morning Lady Lila, your recap was spot
On, thank you for a great story retelling.
I'm sorry for tania, she really did have her last drink. This young woman was very Tortured in her heart and soul. Pedro clearly Was not prepared for this. I wish this could Have Ended better for her. Now he has to deal with His conscience. He'll get the love and support he needs from fifi fiorella.

Now, what kind of med drops was dante (steven seagal) puttin in that water? Was it really medicinal or a little votka, a little pick me up for the grand lady? If it is lethal I hope
None of her loving family members find out.
I think granny will love fiorella.
If benito thinks they're so sweet, why hide their whereabouts from Vito? What is he up to?
This show is about to get interesting, cause now pedro and fio can get started, but she'll have to deal with the vultures.

Lila, you had several titles, "I'LL FLY AWAY "
Is my pick. She flew and crash landed , no pun intend. She really didn't intend to take flight, but there she went.
 

Jessie, I think we're on the same wavelength about Fiorella's lack of boundaries.

Lila, "Re Fidel. I wonder if Pedro consulted him before he even began the relationship with Tania!" If he did, I think Fidel would have advised him against it. My guess is she charmed the pants off Pedro and by the time he realized what he was in for, he was in too deep to get out. He hinted as much last night--talking about how he "couldn't" break up with her. Somehow she ended up being just one more person he had to be responsible for, one more person he couldn't let down because they were depending on him. For all that he seemed cruel and unfeeling, every time she called he came running. He may have freaked out at the prospect of her being pregnant (and damn, if she had been, what a fight that would have been, to keep her sober during the pregnancy!) but in the end, he was prepared to accept the responsibility. I don't know if I like him any better, but I think I understand him better after last night. It just makes the whole situation with Tania more tragic. She wanted his love and never realized that it couldn't be forced, and especially not by being one more burden to him instead of being his refuge from the rest of the world. They were a bad match from the start.

Lila, "I question Benito's motives but am willing to entertain some Patio members giving him the benefit of the doubt. I think his motives are selfish and could end up hurting Gigi. Don't want to talk out of both sides of my mouth!" I don't think you are. I think it's a complicated situation and we haven't been clued in to his intentions yet. And it could very well be that he has an unselfish motive that hurts someone all the same.

David, the third date? I would have gone with "first"...or previous! And maybe that's what he liked about her...if he saw her as a free spirit that would have appealed to him. Rehabilitation is possible, counseling can be effective, it can be very fulfilling career, but no, it's not easy to work in that field, there's a lot of burnout.

Lila, "At any rate, the work I do now is still challenging but it makes a lot of difference when the people you work with seek you out and fully want to be a partner in confronting their situation." Yes! This is key!

Vivi, "I kind of like that our heroine is not above listening at doors. Villains always get the best info that way, while the good guys are ignorant." I may have to re-evaluate...this is a good point.

J in O, "Love Fio's character, but right now sort of "meh" about Gianna, still annoyed that she deleted her sister's email account..." Sometimes I think Gianna shows more common sense than Fiorella, but sometimes the fact that she's the younger sister really shines through. I guess they've made her age-appropriate.
 

Did anyone else get a giggle out of Fifi telling Gianna could get lots of fresh air at the park... in smog filled Mexico city? I know. Random and pointless, but the though popped into my head. Had to share.
 

Fiorealla will be a challenge for our boy pedro.
I think she'll put him in his place alot before they come together, which is why he'll fall hard for her. She'll get under his skin. I think granny will approve. This will he the fun part.
 

Buongiorno e grazie, Diva, amica mia! Thank you for that reminder that Fifi realizes Pedro does not love Tania. I went back and added that at the scene where she was listening in from the bedroom! You know what? It would take superhuman strength not to listen in on that conversation and, like she said, they were yelling so that eavesdropping wasn't really necessary! And yes, she is sheltered and naive and does look at people like they're a telenovela! (I hope I don't get afflicted with this! Maybe I'm too old!)

Yah, Diva, we didn't see Tania being killed off. I wonder how unpredictable the rest of our saga will be? See ya later, Diva!

 

Love it Sara-- I would say our galan, and I use that term lightly right now, makes for a perfect dart board member.

Here's the thing with him...truly agree Tania was most likely a bit messed up when he met her. But his actions, the secrecy, the unwillingness to make them public certainly didn't help. And his cluelessness on the fact he just put her in rehab and hoped that would do it and just kept up HIS behavior was not what someone who truly cared about their significant other would do. His whole reaction to a possible pregnancy to me is like "Dude, what basket did you crawl out from under? You know they say protection might be 99% effective--there is a 1% that happens. Take ownership!" I wonder if he ever did and left it to her anyway.

My guess is deep down she was his distraction and fling and would never be anything more.

So like I said the other day, I take Pedro as a self-absorbed, don't get in my way, all business kind of guy. And one who is in the hip pocket of Grammie and likes it there.
So Tania's demise will be step one on his road to recovery. Wonder how many steps there are on this plan? This will be one of those galans I'm guessing we have to hold unto our beanies while we watch because he will start as a jerk and the love of our sweet young lass will turn him into Prince Charming.

In all the shows I've seen Jose in and he played a positive character, he can truly come off with that menacing, de-tached demeanor very well but was played as essentially a good guy. I sometimes think he would make a better villian than a galan in a TN. You know the type, smooth as silk, great smile, but watch out.

Daisynjay


 

Lol, Sara, no, I did not think about the smog and the park!

Lila, it might take superhuman strength not to listen in, but it sure wouldn't take super hearing! I'm wondering how many of the neighbors were listening in too--those two were loud.
 

Nina Mi amica, Buon pomeriggio (good afternoon)! Grazie! That is very interesting, Nina! What if Dante is slowly poisoning the Grand Lady? Hmmmm! So you think Granny will love Fifi, hunh? I can't wait to see how and why she gets to the Rancho! Fifi may be sheltered and naive but somehow I think she'll be able to take on the vultures! That will be a blast to watch!

Nina, I can't get that old hymn out of my mind "I'll Fly Away" because in so many ways Tania was tired of this weary world. I also thought of "On the Wings of a Snow White Dove" but I didn't want to come off disrespectful.
 

Oh! Which begs the question--how was Pedro and Tania's relationship kept quiet in the first place? Was every single one of the neighbors that respectful of their privacy? The crowd in front of the apartment building seemed to know exactly who Tania was...but somehow Pedro was a big secret in her life as much as she was in his? OK...tightening my beanie on that!

I don't disagree Pedro has behaved like an ass, I just think that whatever fun, whatever thrills he was getting out of this relationship, ended way before we met him. By the premier episode, he wasn't having fun anymore. In fact, the first time we saw him with Tania, I thought she was going to be something like a younger sister or some other relative, because he had that attitude of "Seriously? I have to take care of you again?" Annoyed, but dutiful. Certainly not a romance. I'm not sure why he took her to Italy--now that I look back on it, it seems like it might have been to keep an eye on her more than anything else. It's one thing to drive over from the office, but flying home from Italy?
 

Wow, Diva, I like this:

I understand him better after last night. It just makes the whole situation with Tania more tragic. She wanted his love and never realized that it couldn't be forced, and especially not by being one more burden to him instead of being his refuge from the rest of the world.

ITA on Benito. He's a question mark and yes, he COULD have unselfish motives that end up hurting someone just the same! Nicely summed up, Diva.


Sara! That is kind of a hoot. I know it was the shooting schedule but I was like, day-am, was the park THAT much fun that y'all coming back after dark? I hope they took the meds to the park and how healthy could cotton candy be for lunch?

 

Lila, I too believe that watching Fifi clash with the Vultures will be nice . I am not afraid for her at all but I am for Gigi . Her heart disease is already lethal and more stress will not improve her condition . The sisters need the money fast to cure it and making the situation worse is not going to move it away. Breathing fresh air my third bottoms! Gigi needs a heart transplatation.

If Eloisa ends up accepting Fifi it would be fun. While Grandma is very strict and critical , I don't think she is happy with Pedro's detachment from reality either. Pedro's only fun activity is after all work and more work just to escape from his own shadow.


 

Lila, I guess the girls have never mentioned Vittorio's name to Adela and Ray? I'm sure they know Benito's boss' name, or at least the name of the restaurant. I guess that would make it too easy. I just wonder how many more contortions we're going to go through to keep everyone from making the connection. If nothing else, Benito's going to be sweating keeping things under wraps! And when Gianna finds out, oh, she's gonna let him have it!
 

Now...I want to ride a bike and eat cotton candy while wearing a short, floral frock having just put my twirly , red dress back into the closet!

I hope that things start happening between our destined pair soon because I have noticed that my attention span keeps decreasing, and Sombra left me leery of romantic aspect of these pairings. Are we going to get a little romance sooner rather than later in this show ?
 

P.s. Since the girls are broke, I was wondering what they charge for cotton candy in the DF. It cost $8.00 at the Disney on Ice Frozen Show.
 

Great recap Lila, gracias

QEPD Tania, but I was getting tired of her wails.
Pedro is an ass. Yelling at a drunk is not the best way to get them to quit.

Yes, I agree, I would be counting my own drops if I were Eloisa.

If I remember correctly, Fio sent a picture of she & Gia on the computer, Benito probably saw that.
 

Susanlynn, the floral dresses look so tempting...the cotton candy maybe not so much. Good question--where did they get money for their day out?
 

Count, you know a heart transplant could be in the future! Fifi did mention that in addition to meds she needed some type of "treatment."

And the reaction of Granny to Fifi is something to look forward to, isn't it? Granny wants Pedro to marry and give her great grandkids. Other than not showing boob or too much leg, we don't know what Granny wants for Pedro. I think she may appreciate Fifi's forthrightness. One thing's for sure. NObody at Rancho Los Angeles will be without an opinion on Fifi!


Diva, yes. When Fifi was fretting to Adela about Pedro's horrible treatment of Tania, Adela suggested she occupy herself with finding her fiance but no, she didn't mention Vito's name!


Susanlynn, yeah, we've been burned on romance, girl!


Hey, Variopinta! Thank you! I hear ya girl, about Tania's wailing. Re the picture, I'm thinking Vito must think Benito didn't see the picture. I'm ready for him to get BUST-ted!
 

Great discussion today.

Susanlynn, when I was a boy getting my knuckles rapped by the nuns, and later getting my butt kicked by the Brothers, it seemed to me that we had plenty of psychologists. I wonder what changed?

Sara, loved your comment on DF air quality.

Of course, no one knows that Tania's demise was an accident, so I wonder how guilt (Pedro) or blame (Fio) will play into their relationship development.

5ft, "Third date, I would have gone with first." I was an altar boy. We never had sex before the third date ;)

David
 

Lol, David, I believe you...question is, was Pedro an altar boy?
 

Whoa, David. I had no idea that altar boys got so lucky. I only dated one Catholic boy...he had no luck. I had a small, but fearsome mother...no luck for anyone.
 

5ft, great rejoinder.

Susanlynn, that was actually an incomplete sentence. I should have said "We never had sex before the third date, nor the thirtieth date, nor the ninetieth date, and then only if she had a ring on her finger and a date set for the wedding."

David
 

Different times, no ? My mother used to say " He's a big boy. He can walk out to the car by himself." You did not mess with her.
 

I thought that day in the office, Vito turned his computer screen so Benito could see the cute pic of her and Gia that Ella sent.

I see Benito as the comic side-kick to serious Vittorio. With he and his Mama, they might make a good team for the girls.

Daisynjay
 

Lila, lyrical and lovely.

"Fifi trots off happily enough" and "...who seems to like to enter with a flourish and sprinkle flowery flattery around" were but a few of my favorite lines.

Your heartfelt words: "Tania starts spiraling deeper and deeper in a self-destructive vortex of self-pity" was perfect. This was very difficult for me to watch. Tania seemed so weak, so heartbroken and yet endearingly vulnerable.

And yet, she is summarized perfectly by a woman who jut met her: "Fifi thinks this proves Tania is a woman who needs love and understanding". Sadly, all too late.

Benito is an early favorite of mine. I'm wondering what his plan is (?) He can hardly continue to keep the girls whereabouts a secret!

I keep looking for some spark in Benito, a twinkle in the eye, a twitch of the mouth, something, anything to show that he has heart or humor. I hope these are to come. ITA with Susanlynn "...I like my heroes with a good-natured, kind, humorous streak. Pedro, so far, is harshing my mellow. He is so stern and joyless".

Lila, thank you for another wonderful summary.

Diana
 

Susanlynn - I confess that last night my attention wandered as well. I hope we see some romance soon as well. But I am still enjoying the story telling.
 

Oops. Forgot... I think I'm also adjusting to the story telling of a longer TN. Sombra had fewer episodes, so set up was fast. I think this version of MIVAC and the original had a lot more chapters.

La Vecina started a little slow, but once the leads got together... Swoon!
 

Oh, Sara. I so need to swoon! I wished I'd watched Vecinas but couldn't do another afternoon show just now. I want Fifi and Pedro to brang it!
 

Diana! Sei così gentile! (You are so kind!) Grazie! I keep looking for some spark in Pedro, a twinkle in the eye, a twitch of the mouth, something, anything to show that he has heart or humor. I know and I thought there was a bit in the elevator but it was quickly extinguished! Dern it! I shall wait along with the rest of you! Fifi will rescue him from the tense and dark depths of himself but with Tania's death, it will take a while!
 

Sara , I was too swooned by La Vecina in only 3 episodes and it had me rolling . I could catch up to it but I was just so lazy, no excuses. The cast is incredible and the chemistry between leads is amazing. Sometimes i have an amazingly low attention span.
 

I admit I laughed when Tania went to save the pigeon from falling, don't they fly? She was high as a kite. I knew when I hear last drink that she was a gonner. I liked her warts and all. Fifi needs to mind her business, just saying even though it comes from a good place but girl, you just landed so you need to slow your roll. I like Gigi is more level headed than Fifi. Abuela will either love her for being a straight shooter or hate her guts. Thanks for the recap. Oh so far I don't like Pedro but we all know love will be his salvation.
Romy
 

Hey, Romy Thanks, girl! Yah, poor Tania was gone, thinking she needed to save a pigeon. Words to hold on to: . . .we all know love will be his salvation.
 

"thinking she needed to save a pigeon"

Hers was a noble death. I really feel a lot of pity for her. I've never seen Jessica Coch in anything, but she really owned this role and killed it for just a few episodes. I will have to keep an eye out for her.
 

Romy- She was high as a kite until...she wasn't.