Wednesday, November 04, 2015

Yo No Creo En Los Hombres #82, Wed 11/4/2015: Twas the Night Before Posadas, and All Through the Hood…

Honoria, with a nudge from Julian, admits to Esperanza that Isela is not Josefa’s daughter. Fermin comes out and joins the conversation. Honoria doesn’t want to get involved. They all know Isela had it bad growing up with Josefa, and it was a bit better when she had Orlando to lean on, but now…she’s leaning on the Bustamantes, and what she’s doing there isn’t right. They’ve got to get her out of there. Hon restates she doesn’t want to get involved. They’re all poor and they all have problems, and having extra Josefa problems is NOT something she’s looking for.  

Claudio tells Isela that Josefa herself admitted that she beats Isela, and Leo got confirmation from Clara. Why is Isela covering for her? Isela claims that it’s between her and Josefa, but then admits it’s because Josefa has no other way of dealing with/letting out (desquitarse) her pain. Claudio won’t accept this. He can’t present Isela before the world as his mujer, but he also sees her as more than his lover (amante) and doesn’t want her to be hurt. Isela then tells Claudio about her big sister Marta, who killed herself after a wretched man/jerk (infelíz) betrayed her.

Maria Dolores and Doris join the conversation at Honoria’s place and get the news about Isela. The only info they got out of Orlando was that Isela has ended things with Claudio (he didn’t spill the venganza frijoles). Honoria tells them that Josefa’s man got another woman pregnant, dumped the baby on Josefa, and split. They all now understand why Jo has always treated Isela like crap. Hon further explains that one of the ways Jo kept her quiet about it all these years was by threatening to tell Julian that the local drunken bum was his father. Doris thinks this is a situation where friends are better family to you than the family who raised you (she speaks from experience). Julian says that had Isela known this sooner, she would have left with Orlando, and never gotten entangled with Bustamante. MD doesn’t believe in would-a, should-a, could-a.  The fact is that Orlando is now with the awesome Doris. MD does agree that they all need to help Isela, and perhaps knowing the truth about Jo will help her make better life choices.

Ivana is waiting to speak to Max when he and Alma arrive home. She lets Alma know that Claudio and Isela are upstairs, “supposedly” working, and are not to be disturbed. Alma heads upstairs and catches Claudio hugging Isela right after her confession about her dead sister. They both look guilty as sin.

MD, Doris and Espy return to the Morales apartment to find Leo and Clara unpacking groceries. Espy knows this is all for Las Posadas, and Clara worries that she is upset they are going ahead with it (Espy and Rodolfo always organized and lead it each year). Espy gives her blessing, and starts making plans for food and decorations. Alma has committed to bringing the tamales.

Alma asks why Claudio is in Isela’s room, hugging her. He quickly explains that he was talking to her about her mother’s abuse, and comforting her. Alma buys it. Isela further gets Alma’s sympathy by explaining that she’s always lived in the shadow of her sister, from whose death Josefa has never been able to recover. She takes her pain and sadness on out on Isela. Isela has often asked herself why she didn’t die instead. She further claims she has no one and nowhere in the world. Alma falls for it, hook, line and sinker, and assures Isela that she sees her as a daughter, this is her family, and this is her home. They hug as Claudio looks on. We don’t know if shame or guilt have made their way to his heart yet.

Max tells Ivana that he and MD don’t see the need to continue trying to pin the fire on Dan, since he’s already in jail. They want to get some peace, and the two of them want to start the new year off as man and wife, waiting for the arrival of THEIR baby. Ivana barely manages a tight smile at that news. She takes her leave, and Max leaves the room as Claudio comes to walk Ivana out. He wonders what double game she’s playing, pretending she will testify on behalf of MD, when she has her lawyers working to free Dan. She retorts that she can ask HIM the same question. She’s sure Max won’t be so understanding about him freeing the man who raped the woman he loves. Touché!

Alma tells Isela she understands the pain Josefa felt losing her child. That’s why she’s happy that she will die before her kids. But parents are supposed to protect their children, which Josefa has majorly failed at doing. She needs to respect Isela, if she wants to see her anymore. Alma has decided to wait till after the new year to tell Claudio and Leo about her cancer. She wants to start the year off with hope and a happy wedding.

Max speaks to someone on the phone about trying to find Corina. He hangs up and explains the situation to Alma, and how Dan screwed over this poor girl. MD is super worried about her, and Max will keep trying to find her. Max asks about Isela, and Alma tells him about the dead sister. Max just wants Alma to be tranquil. Alma happily tells him that won’t be possible, with the Posadas tomorrow, prep for the holidays, and wedding planning. She’s happy to have all the distractions. She asks Max if he thinks MD will allow her to buy the wedding dress. Max loves the idea, and tells her to ask MD. He’s sure she’ll love the gesture. Alma thanks him for being an awesome son. “Leo is my accomplice in doing crazy things. Your father is my accomplice/companion in life. And you, you taught me how to be a mother. I’ll never forget your little face when you were born. Your blue eyes… My love, I love you.” Max tells her he loves her too, and they share a tearful hug.

Isela calls Josefa and tells her that if her plan in telling Claudio that she beats her was to win the Bustamante’s sympathy for her, then it worked. But they also now don’t want Josefa anywhere near Isela, so Jo’s plan might not have been so clever.

Ivana visits the Santibañez and is surprised to find Jacinto is working for them. Ursula makes it clear to Ivana that when she signed on to the plan (to steal MD’s baby) she became just as much of a low down, flea-ridden, dirty dog as the rest of them, Jacinto included.

Ivana shares her news that MD and Max are getting married right after New Year’s. Ursula flips out about her baby boy possibly spending Christmas in jail (boohoo), and tells Ivana she has no maternal instinct when she doesn’t give a flip if Danny Boy will get to open his presents by the Christmas tree this year. All Ivana wants is HER baby, because Max is walking around calling it THEIR (his and MD’s) baby. Ivana exists stage right, but sticks around to eavesdrop. She hears Mal ask why Ursula hasn’t used the nuclear bomb on Claudio yet, by telling him Alma has cancer. Arango and Ursula want to draw that trump card when they absolutely have to. For now, the threat of outing his affair with his secretary should be enough. Mal tells them to get a move on, otherwise, Dan will get out of jail to find MD married to Max, and his kid with another man’s last name.

MD calls Isela and asks to talk to her about something important during the Posadas tomorrow.

Doris tells Orlando that Isela is not Josefa’s kid.

MD and Espy discuss the plight of poor Isela (and are WAY more sympathetic than I am), while cooking up a storm for the Posadas. Clara and Leo rush in to give updates on Posadas plans. Orlando has agreed to be the first house stop for the Posadas pilgrims. Leo wants to help them put up a Christmas tree. Espy hadn’t really thought they would do a tree, especially not this year, but agrees when Clara begs.

Ivana comes home to find Susana has (had the servants) set up the Christmas tree. She gets far too much pleasure telling Ivana about all the gifts that have already been sent to her AND Dan, from people wishing them well on their new marriage and expected baby.

Clara brings Espy out to the courtyard for a surprise. All the neighbors have gathered to help decorate and set up the nativity scene. They present Espy with the Joseph figurine, which Honoria had worked hard to repair. Espy remembers a happy time years ago when the girls were little and Rodolfo brought her flowers. She smiles. The decorating begins! Afterwards they are all treated to a punch Espy made. Max and Leo surprise the Morales ladies with a Christmas tree.

Ivana calls Alma to throw shade. First, she tries to fish for info about Alma’s health. Alma says she’s just tired. Ivana then wonders why Isela is living with them. Alma says she’ll explain later. Alma asks Ivana to recommend a wedding dress boutique. Ivana says she’ll recommend the best in the city. But then she asks how Alma could have forgiven MD, because she does not understand this change in attitude. Alma tells her she’s going through a personal process, but she’ll tell her about it later. She ends the call.

Doris gives Orlando all of her Christmas decorations so that he can decorate his place, since she has no intention of decorating hers. He’s nervous because it’s the first time his house will be a stop on the Posadas. She teases him about it. Doris admits that Christmas makes her sad because that’s when she misses her family and she feels alone. Orlando proposes that they deck out her place and his, because she is no longer alone. They kiss.

As the youngsters decorate the tree, Espy gets teary and thanks Max and Leo. She tells them that when Rodolfo died, so much good went out of her life, but they (Max and Leo) have brought such wonderful things into her life.

The next morning, Orlando comes to tell Julian that he’s found the perfect car to adapt for him. Fermin and Jenny explain to worried Honoria that it will be adapted for him to drive by hand. Orly will help teach Julian how to use it and will take care of getting the car registered for him. Julian insists on paying Orly for some of this, despite his protests.  

Claudio is wrapping up a discouraging meeting with Victor in his office (not smart if he’s trying to keep this from Max), when Ivana comes to see him. She tells him Ursula is going crazy because she wants Dan out by tomorrow for Christmas. Claudio says that Ursula’s whims (caprichos) aren’t enough to move the heavy wheel of Justice (or Injustice, depending on your view). Ivana warns him that he’s going to have to do something to prevent Ursula from telling Alma what she knows. “I’m not here to judge you. But Ursula is capable of telling Alma everything, despite her being sick.” Cara de whatchutalkinbout, Ivana?!

Julian apologizes to Orly for not telling him sooner about Isela’s baby-mama drama—it could have changed things for them. Orly doesn’t mind. What's done is done. His face lights up as he speaks about Doris, who is just amazing and lovely. For the first time ever, he’s really enjoying having a girlfriend.  If it weren’t for Ari constantly trying to ruin things between them, it would be perfect. And not having a crazy suegra (Jo) is a big bonus too. (Amen!) Orly thinks Isela needs to know the truth ASAP (MD is on it), and he also has something else he wants to speak to her about…

Isela tells Alma she doesn’t want to go to the Posadas, because she doesn’t want to have problems with Josefa. Alma agrees, but asks Isela to spend Christmas with her and the Bustamante men.

Claudio doesn’t believe Alma is sick. Ivana tells him he needs to do something. “Alma doesn’t deserve this.”

Doris brings her special brand of holiday cheer to the Morales house. They check their website and find an order for one of their custom-made dresses. Yay! It’s a good thing Alma is buying MD’s wedding dress, since she won’t have time to make her own.

Ivana rips into Gerry’s latest design proposals, basically calling them ugly. He wonders if she’s been doing her mirror exercise, and suggests the criticism she’s hurling at his designs is really just what she’s feeling about herself. Touché, Gerry.

Victor tells Ursula that Claudio doesn’t have good news about getting Dan out of jail by Christmas. Mal sarcastically says there’s no need to decorate the house now, since it will be the saddest Christmas since her papa died. Ursula orders the staff to decorate more than ever, in preparation for Dan’s homecoming!

Claudio visits the oncologist office, and finds out that yes indeed, Alma is a patient.

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Comments:
Is there any "secret" in this show that isn't known by at least half the characters? I mean, I love it, but they should just stop trying. Hear a secret, email it to everyone, post notices, whatever, because it's going to get around. Fast.

Kelly
 

Kelly- I love that no secret is a secret for long in this tn. It keeps things moving. Orlando's holding on pretty tight to that Isela/Josefa revenge plot secret though.
 

Well, actually I do wish the bad guys weren't so good at getting hold of the good guy secrets. But they have perfect spies like Isela, Josefa, Ari, and Ivana passing them info as soon as they get it.
 

I love your recaps Vivi, thank you.

"We don’t know if shame or guilt have made their way to his heart yet"

“Leo is my accomplice in doing crazy things. Your father is my accomplice/companion in life. And you, you taught me how to be a mother. I’ll never forget your little face when you were born. Your blue eyes… My love, I love you.” Thank you Vivi for the translation, I cried during this scene.

"Cara de whatchutalkinbout, Ivana?!"

Why does MD care so much about pooooor Isela, she knows she is a liar and cheat? Is this another case where MD refuses to believe someone would continue to lie to her? She had a difficult time accepting Dan would.


 

Tofie- You're welcome. That was a great scene between Max and Alma.

Why do any of the hood people care about Isela? MD doesn't know the stuff Isela has done against her like we do. But everyone in the hood knows how she lied about Orlando, used him, and set the police on him with a lie. And yet twice Julian mentioned Orly getting back together with her, and is was MD who shot that down.
 

I can only guess they give Isela a pass because Josefa is so bad and the disclosure she is not Josefa's daughter gives her frequent liar miles. More troubling to me is Max feels sorry for her and believes Isela's support of Alma sincere.

Don't know how I missed it but all Ivana's peers still believe she is pregnant and happily married. Susana got a little boost marveling at the Christmas gifts from well wishers.

Oh boy, MD going to Claudio helped him decide to deal with the devil and spring Dan (I think he is purposefully dragging his feet a bit) but sickening because Alma has cancer he will go all in. I'm not naive enough to believe peckers don't do the deciding for some men but how does Claudio justify this to himself?

 

Great work, Vivi.

Tofie, your new phrase "frequent liar miles" needs to be part of our regular usage here. This is such a novela trope.

Isela lost those when she stabbed MD in the back to Maleny. It stopped being about Hosefa a long time ago.

As to how Claudio justifies this to himself, I don't know. I'm starting to think that he will eventually hang himself over his poor character in the face of Alma's cancer.
 

Yay, another great recap by Vivi. I want to thank you also for the translation of what Alma said to Max. It was so sweet.

Am I the only one bothered by everyone kind of accepting the reason for Josefa's mistreatment of Isela when they learn that she's not her daughter? Like that explains anything. Yikes!

I'm glad that Claudio now knows that Alma is sick. Now Ursula can't use that to bribe him. It's irritating that Alma wants to keep her cancer a secret from her immediate family, especially if she doesn't have that long to live. I'm still not buying the story line of Ivana wanting the baby after everything she knows about what's happening. Max wants to be the father, does she think he would ever in a million years let the Santibanez take the baby from him and MD?
 

Thanks Urban and Cathyx.

Cathyx- I think they all know Jo is a beyotch. That's not a surprise. So it's no surprise to learn that she's even more of a beyotch to Isela because she's not related to her by blood.
 

Cathy, I think that part of why they "understand" this is that Isela is not only not Hosefa's blood, but evidence of a sexual and/or romantic betrayal. It would never matter to Hosefa that this isn't in any way Isela's fault. What is bothering me more is that nobody tried to help Isela long before this.

Ivana may yet surprise us. The pain on her face the other day might be the beginning of the realization that this baby will not be hers. She may also know that the Santibanez clan are killers looking for a victim. We are not in on her plan and she has put Gerry at more than arm's length to keep him from getting involved. There are enough episodes left that we can hope she will become the person she can be.
 

UA, Ivana's turn bothers me bunches, she's sick and needs help or if she is sanely serious about this, and indications are she is or at least enough to continue to do damage, then I hope Gerry says something to MD or at least Max. What gives me pause in believing Ivana may flip is if she really wanted to destroy Ursula, keep Dan in jail and go speak to the press now.
 

Thanks, Vivi. Terrific recap.

That was indeed a great scene between Alma and Max.

So what will Claudio do now that he knows his wife has cancer? Will he rein himself in to do the right thing? If he does the right thing, will it be out of obligation or from real feeling. There's not much back story on Claudio so I can't even guess.

The adult neighbors should feel guilty for watching Josefa's emotional abuse of Isela without doing anything. Maybe a school counselor or priest could've helped.

So when MD loses her baby and Ivana gets a baby at the same time, Ivana doesn't expect Gerry to notice the coincidence?
 

Thanks, Niecie.

I think in most parts of the world people don't interfere in how other people raise their kids, even if the kids are abused. Especially as in most places it's not like the State would offer something much better if they took the kid on. I think in these cases, all the neighbors can do is call the parent on it (Jo didn't give a damn), and offer the child kindness and a refuge in their homes. It seems that they did this, especially Espy and Rodolfo.
 

Vivi, enjoyed the recap. It would be a merry christmas if it wasn't so overcast with lies &
Blackmail, cheating hubbys, crazy mommas,
Death and dannyboy.
Ivana has just flipped out. "All I want is MY
Baby, cause max is walkin around callin it THEIR BABY." She gas gotten really cocky
About stealing someone elses child, like she
Got rights. No the hell she don't. She need to go get her wide but counciling. Don't get me started. I don't feel sorry for her no more. She
Plannin on stealin somebody's child, has she
Forgotten what it feels like to loose a child?
And here she wants to steal someones child. No,No Simpathy for her. She can get an anvil and a lump of coal in her stocking. I hope
There will be a miracle for alma.
 

UA, maybe she will be the person good lady
She can be, but right now, she is somebody I can't stand. And she has to be hating Md to
Think nothing of putting her through that pain of loosing her haby by theft. Thats just
Lo down nasty.
 

Kelly,

Short answer: No. I was just thinking the same thing. Everyone quickly learned about Alma's illness (looks like Claudio is the last to know) and now everyone is finding out about Josefa/Isela. These characters are a bunch of chismosos/as.
 

Nina- LOL! A lump of coal is a perfect gift for Ivana. She's for sure on Santa's naughty list.
 

TF- I think it's Leo who will be the last to know about Alma. He for sure will not take it well. But in his case (as her child and as a minor), it really should be the role of his parents to tell him. Looks like all the neighbors have tasked MD with telling Isela about her non-mama.
 

And I'm shocked Clara has been able to keep the secret from Leo. Though she has come close a few times, and gotten all teary eyed. Luckily, Espy was there each time to cover.
 

This is the second tn I've seen celebrate the
Holidays. They've skipped thanksgiving tho.
Probably not enough time to do both of them
Everybody is happy sad. We'll see will what happen tonight.
 

Nina, Thanksgiving is an american holiday. They don't celebrate it in Mexico.
 

Nina- No Thanksgiving in Mexico. But they do have some cool traditions around Christmas, like Las Posadas, and Easter, which I've seen in a few tns. I've not seen a tn that did something fun for Dia de los Muertos though.
 

Vivi, what did they do in Que Ricos, when they went to pray at some city by the water. Lol, I can't remember any of the details, but I know you know what I mean.
 

Cathyx- I believe that was for the Easter holiday. Mexico pretty much stops working that entire week.
 

I completely forgot about that fact. They have holidays we don't celebrate too. I thought Thanksgiving was celebrated the world over. Not!
thanks Cathyx. :-)
 

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