Caray, Caray!

That's great, UA, my favorite was Dante "boinking above his class." (Spell check made me try 3 times to get "boinking" right.)
More later - thanks for getting this started.
Ann C
 

Oooo! Can't wait to get home and tuck into this!

Mille grazie, Urbanita!
 

Urban - this is great and too many jewels to note right now on my phone while waiting for an appointment. Thank you for the giggles and snarky humor. Will comment later when I have a real keyboard. 😎😎😎
 

Excellent Urban!

I laughed out loud at "abject laziness, major fashion felonies, and unjustified classism".

Think you hit it on the head with all your predictions!

I'm still enjoying this and likely would have even more so had so many pivotal scenes not been cut.

This was great fun...

Diana
 

I can't see Dante getting away with murder and Federica has to pay for her many attempts. Somehow I think she will go down last.

I have a major problem with Assvaldo getting away with his stuff. I just checked Miguel Biaggio's resume and I'm not familiar with all his roles. I've only ever see him play a good guy, like someone's nice younger brother or the overage virgin in QBA who got mentored by Santos.


 

Oh noes--I haven't watched Muchacha since the first week, but seeing it was Karmageddon week, I had to take a peek.

Please, please, don't tell me Francisco Gattorno went to the really, really dark side and is "Guilty of murder, arson, spousal abuse, fraud, grand theft, kidnapping." Please, Francisco, come back into the light for your next telenovela.
 

Aye, Urbanita, you're in fine form. Mille grazie for this snappy, witty Karmageddon fest! Here's my first installment!

Federica - Find out that her father was not only NOT an Angeles but a low down dirty dog who stole from Maximo first; thus her windfall is nullified, her crimes are discovered and she thus goes insane and spends the rest of her life playing with her cards in a manicomio for criminals.

Anibal - just keep him locked up for life and let him not darken our screens again.

Aitana - Get her a room with Freddie because they have now teamed up. I want this scheme to do whatever she wants to do to Osvaldo to be discovered and let her spend her days endlessly twirling her hair with Freddie driving her more crazy than she is now.

Dante - life imprisonment in solitary confinement. I know, that doesn't seem bad enough. I haven't read any other comments, I didn't want to have my ideas influenced but I hope y'all come up with something better than this!

Benigno and his wife Celeste - Prison for human trafficing and fraud.

Katia - Just send the skank back to Portugal and we'll try to forget her skankiness ever happened.
 

I'd also like to see Federica in the manicomio, the same one Pilar was locked up in. Her behavior at the meeting with the Japanese investors is adequate proof that she can't be playing with a full deck (pun intended) if she fails to understand that airing the family's dirty linen in public is going to bit them in the tush.

Are we going to have to wait until the last week for Santino and Julieta to realize that Fiorella is their daughter? We all knew that the day of the first flashback.

Benigno and his wife (whose picture I couldn't find) need to get caught and go to prison. In most countries their kind of crime carries a longer sentence than murder.
 

Ok, this is when we, the solid citizens & general good guys to those around us, get to be the dark avengers by night not batting an eye at our armegeddons. And sleep all the better for it.

Anibal - basically has had his. Too bad all that handsomeness went to waste. Just throw away the key to ensure he's locked away for life.

Frederica - she'll lose it all: the money, the estates, her "fashionable clothes" and her mind. Pilar's room is available, but I would prefer she be found out for the attempted murders and locked in a jail psyche ward.

Dante: Honestly, I can see Freddy taking him out and then going totally nuts over it. Fine by me.

As for the possible redeemers:

Osvaldo: No, said yesterday they can show he found the errors of his ways, but he tried to kill people and his abuse of Gael was horrendous. It think his redemption might come in death---saving someone, heart donor, something like that. Punishment with some positive to it? Make sense?

Sonia: Sees a mess, and a lot of her "cconspiracy" was either staying silent, or trying to undermine her stupid husband's schemes. Her worse crime was putting the false pregnancy on Petey. I give her a chance to have her child, but to go live simply and forget about the money and power. I keep thinking her old paramour is still out there penniless but maybe they'd make a good pair.

Diana and Vitto-- I don't care enough to speculate. They can have each other and disappear.





Aitanna and her Parents: Poor, dirt poor, garbage dump poor. Daddy-o could arguably do jail, but Aitanna for sure needs to have her hair chopped, put into a uniform and schlep for a living. Not sure if she still is active enough to do something truly crazy-beyotch evil...if she does, the psyche cell next to Freddie would work.

Katia: if she doesn't die to be the heart donor just put her on a plane.

Rox is learning and she'll be fine. She needed to grow up and maybe stop listening to her nanny/mother. Adela will set her straight.

As for Eloisa: I think she needs to see everything lost. That status, the manor, the business she thought was everything needs to go and she needs to realize it wasn't all that to begin with. Her antics and attitudes led to much of what happened, the unhappiness of people, the scheming. She can't put that all on Max. Considering her age, I wouldn't be surprised to see her die after she sees it all go poof.

Daisynjay


 

Lila's Karmaggedon, cont'd.

Osvaldo - Ah, Assvaldo. I have had so much fun with a 1001 permutations on the word "Ass" with this character. He indeed has spent most of the novela with "his ass on his shoulder" as we used to say in my neck of the woods -- overly sensitive and easily offended, yet arrogant, a sense of entitlement and a personal feeling that he must keep the lower classes in their place. Ah, yes, that's Assvaldo. They ARE trying to redeem him. Hmmm. I don't know. Even though she's no angel, I want his wife, Sonia, to have some happiness so I guess I'll settle for all his schemes to be revealed and have him do some groveling at Pedro's feet with tears, snot, and everything.

Sonia - She's had to suffer being married to an ass. It would be nice if she confessed to Pedro that they never boinked and apologize for all the grief she caused him. Let him forgive her, and let her have a healthy baby.

Eloisa - Man. I don't know! She has asked Fiorella to forgive her, not sure if she did to Pedro, I think so. She showed genuine sorrow for Pilar's being buried alive in a mental institution, she has welcomed after Fiorella and Gianna into her family after being really nasty to them. It would take to long to say why but I wasn't totally mad at her for trying to protect the family Empire. Leave her to the Lord, she can't fool Him!

Roxi - Doh, again, I don't know. A little more humility and some apologies to Fiorella and Gianna for being a beyotch to them. She has become kind and solicitous of Gianna and promised Gael not to eff with her anymore.

To be continued.
 

I don't know, usually I have strong feelings about characters' deserved fates, but on this one, I don't know.

Confession time - I've always kinda liked Fed and her crazy clothes and her card readings, she's entertaining. I'm a little disappointed they've made her the main villain, she at least had a reason for everything bad she did to others unlike some characters(lookin at you Os)

Dante ungh he should fall in a dry well and his incompetent "security" staff don't find him for a few days
 

Lila's Karmaggedon - concluded

Vitto and Diana - Let them live on a few pesos and let him start over from scratch like he said he would. Diana DOES have an interim punishment, she is in jail for possession of a weapon used in a murder and is apparently so distraught she tried to commit suicide. Let Vitto give Fiorella the letter from her father and beg her forgiveness for being a lying jerk to her. Let Dianna be cleared and let them take little Betito and go off our screens and live happily ever after!

Back in a bit to see what everybody else has to say!

Thanks, Urban, for this fun post!
 

Daisy, I like your Dante karmageddon!

Your Osvaldo k does make sense. I would go there but save his sorry ass for Sonia. Let him also crawl, grovel, and apologize to Gael especially and Gianna.

Oooh! Ouch! for Eloisa. Daisy, you are so right:

Ok, this is when we, the solid citizens & general good guys to those around us, get to be the dark avengers by night not batting an eye at our armegeddons. And sleep all the better for it.
 

Dante ungh he should fall in a dry well and his incompetent "security" staff don't find him for a few days

I love this, Sneaky! See, I knew y'all would do better!
 

Someone should cloroform aitana and shave
Her head, and remove some if that makeup.

Only allow sonia to sing in the shower, the
Acustics are superb in there. In there she'll sound like beyonce.

Dante: cut off his ponytail and pin it on albanyo.
Roxi- make her dress like.. shes rather sweet
now. But let her spend the weekend withbens
Parents arguing about who invented pssta.
I can't ever remember adeles hubbys name. He's that man with the annoying voice.
 

Thanks Urban this is fun!!!! :-D
 

Nina, Adelas husband is Reynaldo.

OsvAldo Maybe Freddie can throw him to the dogs to feed them, he can have an accident and lose his sight or left invalid for the rest of his life. What if Ratana leaves him without his you know lovely thing.

Freddie Roaming in the streets and begging for money like a homeless

Ratana It would be wonderful if her video with Assvaldo is exhibited and her reputation is ruined or if she is left so poor that she ends up working as a servant, more specifically as Fiorellas servant.

Dante Before being killed by Freddie he has to be tortured, left without eating and dying of thurst.
 

All the Karmageddon lists are superb!!! I don't have anything to add to the list..

It would be nice to see Dante die a slow, painful death only after having his Grecian Formula withheld for a year. His anvil needs to be the biggest because, so far, he is the only character that has taken a life.

Osvaldo is an interesting character because of his 180° turnaround. I am fine with no verbal apologies from him, because he is truly repenting and changing his behavior. Apologies are often just empty words. When our son was growing up, I always told him "the best sorry you can be is to not do ______ ever again." Os, despite his slip up with Sonia re: DNA last night, is working hard at changing himself.

Nina - your karmageddon suggestions are all a hoot and made me smile. :-) (Adela and Rey arguing over who invented pasta ---- spot on, girl!)