Saturday, January 02, 2016
Yo No Creo En Los Hombres, #118 The Trial Begins
We’re back at the prison yard, where Max is looking mighty fine in his suit and tie, (when doesn’t he look mighty fine though). And after an uncomfortably long kiss while everyone shuffles their feet waiting for it to end, he introduces them to a judge he brought along and asks MD if she will marry him right there, right now.
She hesitates for only a minute because she’s worried that if she gets a guilty sentence that she will not want Max tied down to being with someone in prison, but he tells her that he will always love her and he wants to have custodial power for Almita. Swoon!!! What a galan. So she says yes and they get hitched.
After the congratulations from Esperanza and Nayeli, Max hands her an envelop that he says she will need for the hearing that they are going to now.
Honoria is visiting Isela in the hospital, and mutters that at least Julian was conscious and able to talk. Poor Isela can’t move and can’t talk. She turns to Orlando and tells him that he’s going to need so much help taking care of her, but with Julian, she knew she was helping him to become more independent and he won’t have that with Isela. Leo comes in and asks about Isela’s baby, they confirm that she was born and say how sorry they are for Leo’s loss. The nurse then enters with the baby and Honoria gets the honors of being the first to hold her. Honoria then lays the baby on Isela and tells her that she will help Orlando raise her and that the baby will know that Isela worried about her and wanted the best for her. She then breaks down and has to leave.
Fermin follows her to the waiting room to comfort her. She’s so sad that the baby will not be able to know her mother, and Fermin says just like MD and her baby, they took the baby yesterday and Esperanza cried a river of tears. Poor Esperanza? Poor Honoria, she will never know of a grandchild from her son. The only thing that she wants is for her son’s killer to not go unpunished. Fermin tells her that she wants to fulfill the last words of Isela, but not of her own son who said that MD is innocent. This gives Honoria pause.
Jenny is getting examined by her doctor. The doctor said that there’s no evidence of bleeding so everything is fine. Jenny said the pregnancy test came out negative, but the doctor said she can get a negative test result for 2 to 3 weeks at the beginning. But she wants to know how she fell. She then relives the scene with Dan assaulting her. Dan mentioning that she already inseminated herself with Julian’s defective genes, that she knows things about his life since they were in therapy together and he knows things about her too. So take care, he says patting her stomach, because it would be very sad if Julian’s son also died in a tragic accident like he did, don’t you think? She then startles herself saying "it was him." (Ok, here’s a confession. I had skimmed over this reminiscing part, so I had to go back and rewatch this scene because we find out later that it turns out to be very important. This is where Jenny finds out that Dan was admitting that Julian’s death was an accident, not a premeditated murder by MD.) After she gets dressed, she runs over to see Honoria, and Fermin takes her to the hearing where Honoria will be testifying.
Aldo is stepping up to visit Nayeli. The first thing she asks is about her children. He didn’t have the money for the bus fare for them, and he doesn’t even have enough money to take care of them. What is she doing with her money, paying for a lawyer? (I’m assuming they get some money while they are in prison for working?) He throws an envelop at her and asks her what it is. She quickly opens it and reads the letter.
Josefa, Honoria, and Dan’s lawyer show up for the hearing. Max and Eperanza then come in, Max spots Josefa and Honoria, and reminds them that lying under oath is against the law. Josefa shoots back that so is threatening the witnesses. Honoria said that she’s going to get justice for her son, so I guess what Fermin said didn’t move her one bit.
Max then calls Jerry wondering where Ivana is, she’s not answering her phone and she needs to be at the hearing. Jerry’s on it!
Back at the prison, Nayeli explains that Max is the husband and a lawyer of her friend and he’s helping her with her case. The friend that has been investigating me? She informs him that they are still married and he can’t be married to someone else. He reminds her that once she was sentenced to jail, they automatically become divorced. She says it was his fault that she’s in jail but he says do what you need to do to get out because he can’t afford to feed her kids. And if things work out that he ends up in prison, her kids and his kid will also not get fed or have parents to take care of them.
Jerry finds Ivana in the nursery putting the baby to sleep. Jerry tells her that Max wants to know why she isn’t at the hearing, she shushes him so that Dan doesn’t hear him. She isn’t going to the hearing.
Corina arrives at Aldo’s apartment to take the kids away. Lucky for her they are alone. But the younger boy reminds the older one that the baby will be left alone. Just then, Aldo’s new wife come home and Corina threatens to call the police for leaving the kids alone, but the new wife threatens that they will go to an orphanage if she does. They fight about it.
Esperanza and Max are scrambling, Max leaves to call Jerry. Meanwhile, Jerry and Ivana are arguing about this very subject. Ivana wanted to go, had every intention of going. Jerry calls her a liar. She never had any intention of going. Susana hears the argument and joins in. Ivana pulls out the same old, heard a million times argument about wanting a baby, yada, yada, yada, you’ve all heard a million times so I won’t repeat it here.
Jerry isn’t having any of it. She could have a child a million ways til Sunday and she knows it. She wants MD’s baby because of what Dan did to her. She tells him that he doesn’t know what it’s like to lose a child. Susana says that robbing one won’t make up for it. Jerry-not just robbing one, but ruining the lives of many people in the process, including the life of an innocent woman. She will live her life in jail, and worse than that, Max just lost his mother and he’s going to lose the woman he loves also. They look at Ivana in disgust. All she can do is cry.
Corina and the new wife finally come to an agreement. Corina can leave with the children. As they leave, Corina comes back and asks if she really doesn’t care if she takes the kids, new wife says no because Aldo leaves all the time with no money to take care of them. He doesn’t care if they eat or even live, and she’s left trying to find a way to feed everyone.
Back to crazy Ivana. Poor Ivana, no one cares if she’s happy, not Susana, not Jerry, not Dan. Susana gets on her soapbox now. She says: I can’t pretend to have cared, but you both think you live in a fantasy world. You can move people around like puppets. You’re not even trying to be parents together anymore. And now you introduce a third option and everything that is happening with the Santibanez. You need to stop wasting time with this when you know that they wouldn’t stop at anything, including killing Max, to get what they want. Is there nothing to stop you to get this child? Just then Max rings Jerry wondering where Ivana is. He tells him that Ivana isn’t going to do it. Jerry tells him that he’s doing everything in his power to convince her.
Back at he hearing, he tells Esperanza that Ivana is a no show.
Corina better get out of there before Aldo gets back, but she continues with the new wife. She tells her that Aldo framed Nayeli and that’s why she’s in jail, but new wife doesn’t believe it. Corina tells her that she has to know that that isn’t true, she know what kind of guy Aldo is. New wife doesn’t know who Corina is, but she doesn’t want to be put in the middle of this and then have Aldo leave her without any way to take care of herself. Corina promises that if anything happens to her, she will help her. New wife agrees.
Jerry tries again to convince Ivana. He tells her that he has always cared about her, but he’s not going to stand by and let her do this. He will not only show up and testify against Dan himself, but against Ivana too for being an accomplice. She continues to say she can’t.
Yes she can, and she has to. He doesn’t want to believe that she’s the woman that Susana says she really is. He knows she’s a marvelous person, and she will find that child that she’s wanting so badly. But this little girl isn’t her.
Ivana finally comes around, yes they have to save her from those wolves, (los Santibanez) they have to protect her. Jerry promises that by testifying, they will do just that. And the hearing has begun and they need to go. Ivana wants to see the baby before they go, but the baby is nowhere in sight.
The hearing has begun. The charges and the rules of the hearing are announced.
The prosecution says that that MD and Julian had a relationship. This causes Honoria to stand up saying it’s not true. The prosecution continues that it was well known that they had a relationship and this murder was a crime of passion, and that Julian wanted to continue with the relations even though she was marrying Max. The defendant had a pistol and she killed him so that he wouldn’t impede her plans to marry a rich man, that she was taking advantage of someone in a wheelchair who couldn’t defend himself.
The maid tells Ivana that the nurse has come to take care of the baby, but that Dan took the baby out. Ivana goes ballistic, and Jerry and Susana remind her that he’s the father and he won’t hurt her. Ivana calls him but has to leave a message. She leaves to go look for him. (I am so done with this chick)
Now the defense gets to make an opening statement. MD didn’t try to get rid of Julian, but she was defending herself against an attacker Daniel Santibanez, and Julian was accidentally shot in the process. And he will present evidence of Daniel’s continued threats and intimidations of his client and that he is a dangerous person who is guilty of what happened to Julian, not his client.
Monterubio calls Claudio to make a deal with him that will benefit both of them. Claudio doesn’t trust that he’s going to be honest with him. He tells Claudio that Marta was killed in a hurry and if he wants to know more, he needs to come to his office because this is only the beginning of something ugly that he doesn’t want to be involved in.
Fermin and Jenny arrive at the hearing but are told that they can’t go in because only witnesses are allowed inside. Fermin tells him that it’s very important because she has evidence about the shooting. He won’t let them in.
The doctor is advising Orlando about the care of Isela when she’s at home. She will need around the clock care. After all the information about hygiene and feeding, I hope that Orlando realizes it’s too much for him.
Now Josefa is giving her testimony. But first, she tells them that her daughter was going to come to declare herself as a witness, but she’s now in a coma because Claudio Bustamonte threw her over the second floor railing. He’s the father of her baby. But she heard everything the defendant told her daughter, about all the men she’s had in and that Max was the best the best thing that came along for her. He would take care of her, and MD was ridding herself of all the other men around her. That she was going to make sure Dan was put in jail and get rid of Julian too.
Max’s turn to counter. He tells her that she doesn’t have proof that Julian was ever MD’s lover or that she had a sexual relationship with Dan. She says she was there when MD said Julian was the baby’s father, and she was there when she saw MD in bed with Daniel. Max says that that was when she was raped by Dan, and Julian came to help her. Josefa comes back with that it was a supposed rape because no one saw it happen. The same with when Julian was killed.
Nayeli is calling her parents to apologize for what has happened with her. She’s paying dearly and so are her kids. Just then, Corina arrives with the children. A happy reunion ensues.
Aldo has a fit when he finds out that the kids aren’t there. She told them that they escaped when she left to go to the store. He leaves to find them, but not before hitting her in front of their child.
Ivana and Jerry get to Ursula’s to look for Dan but he’s not there. All Ursula can do is insult Ivana saying that she’s putting everything at risk by letting Dan be able to escape with the baby.
Honoria’s turn now. Honoria declares that she’s not going to testify and align herself with someone who is telling lies about her son. Julian was never MD’s lover. He was good and honest and had the values that she taught him. But the unfairness of his death and the pain that she has gone through made her go against those same values, and she won't continue to do that.
The end.
She hesitates for only a minute because she’s worried that if she gets a guilty sentence that she will not want Max tied down to being with someone in prison, but he tells her that he will always love her and he wants to have custodial power for Almita. Swoon!!! What a galan. So she says yes and they get hitched.
After the congratulations from Esperanza and Nayeli, Max hands her an envelop that he says she will need for the hearing that they are going to now.
Honoria is visiting Isela in the hospital, and mutters that at least Julian was conscious and able to talk. Poor Isela can’t move and can’t talk. She turns to Orlando and tells him that he’s going to need so much help taking care of her, but with Julian, she knew she was helping him to become more independent and he won’t have that with Isela. Leo comes in and asks about Isela’s baby, they confirm that she was born and say how sorry they are for Leo’s loss. The nurse then enters with the baby and Honoria gets the honors of being the first to hold her. Honoria then lays the baby on Isela and tells her that she will help Orlando raise her and that the baby will know that Isela worried about her and wanted the best for her. She then breaks down and has to leave.
Fermin follows her to the waiting room to comfort her. She’s so sad that the baby will not be able to know her mother, and Fermin says just like MD and her baby, they took the baby yesterday and Esperanza cried a river of tears. Poor Esperanza? Poor Honoria, she will never know of a grandchild from her son. The only thing that she wants is for her son’s killer to not go unpunished. Fermin tells her that she wants to fulfill the last words of Isela, but not of her own son who said that MD is innocent. This gives Honoria pause.
Jenny is getting examined by her doctor. The doctor said that there’s no evidence of bleeding so everything is fine. Jenny said the pregnancy test came out negative, but the doctor said she can get a negative test result for 2 to 3 weeks at the beginning. But she wants to know how she fell. She then relives the scene with Dan assaulting her. Dan mentioning that she already inseminated herself with Julian’s defective genes, that she knows things about his life since they were in therapy together and he knows things about her too. So take care, he says patting her stomach, because it would be very sad if Julian’s son also died in a tragic accident like he did, don’t you think? She then startles herself saying "it was him." (Ok, here’s a confession. I had skimmed over this reminiscing part, so I had to go back and rewatch this scene because we find out later that it turns out to be very important. This is where Jenny finds out that Dan was admitting that Julian’s death was an accident, not a premeditated murder by MD.) After she gets dressed, she runs over to see Honoria, and Fermin takes her to the hearing where Honoria will be testifying.
Aldo is stepping up to visit Nayeli. The first thing she asks is about her children. He didn’t have the money for the bus fare for them, and he doesn’t even have enough money to take care of them. What is she doing with her money, paying for a lawyer? (I’m assuming they get some money while they are in prison for working?) He throws an envelop at her and asks her what it is. She quickly opens it and reads the letter.
Josefa, Honoria, and Dan’s lawyer show up for the hearing. Max and Eperanza then come in, Max spots Josefa and Honoria, and reminds them that lying under oath is against the law. Josefa shoots back that so is threatening the witnesses. Honoria said that she’s going to get justice for her son, so I guess what Fermin said didn’t move her one bit.
Max then calls Jerry wondering where Ivana is, she’s not answering her phone and she needs to be at the hearing. Jerry’s on it!
Back at the prison, Nayeli explains that Max is the husband and a lawyer of her friend and he’s helping her with her case. The friend that has been investigating me? She informs him that they are still married and he can’t be married to someone else. He reminds her that once she was sentenced to jail, they automatically become divorced. She says it was his fault that she’s in jail but he says do what you need to do to get out because he can’t afford to feed her kids. And if things work out that he ends up in prison, her kids and his kid will also not get fed or have parents to take care of them.
Jerry finds Ivana in the nursery putting the baby to sleep. Jerry tells her that Max wants to know why she isn’t at the hearing, she shushes him so that Dan doesn’t hear him. She isn’t going to the hearing.
Corina arrives at Aldo’s apartment to take the kids away. Lucky for her they are alone. But the younger boy reminds the older one that the baby will be left alone. Just then, Aldo’s new wife come home and Corina threatens to call the police for leaving the kids alone, but the new wife threatens that they will go to an orphanage if she does. They fight about it.
Esperanza and Max are scrambling, Max leaves to call Jerry. Meanwhile, Jerry and Ivana are arguing about this very subject. Ivana wanted to go, had every intention of going. Jerry calls her a liar. She never had any intention of going. Susana hears the argument and joins in. Ivana pulls out the same old, heard a million times argument about wanting a baby, yada, yada, yada, you’ve all heard a million times so I won’t repeat it here.
Jerry isn’t having any of it. She could have a child a million ways til Sunday and she knows it. She wants MD’s baby because of what Dan did to her. She tells him that he doesn’t know what it’s like to lose a child. Susana says that robbing one won’t make up for it. Jerry-not just robbing one, but ruining the lives of many people in the process, including the life of an innocent woman. She will live her life in jail, and worse than that, Max just lost his mother and he’s going to lose the woman he loves also. They look at Ivana in disgust. All she can do is cry.
Corina and the new wife finally come to an agreement. Corina can leave with the children. As they leave, Corina comes back and asks if she really doesn’t care if she takes the kids, new wife says no because Aldo leaves all the time with no money to take care of them. He doesn’t care if they eat or even live, and she’s left trying to find a way to feed everyone.
Back to crazy Ivana. Poor Ivana, no one cares if she’s happy, not Susana, not Jerry, not Dan. Susana gets on her soapbox now. She says: I can’t pretend to have cared, but you both think you live in a fantasy world. You can move people around like puppets. You’re not even trying to be parents together anymore. And now you introduce a third option and everything that is happening with the Santibanez. You need to stop wasting time with this when you know that they wouldn’t stop at anything, including killing Max, to get what they want. Is there nothing to stop you to get this child? Just then Max rings Jerry wondering where Ivana is. He tells him that Ivana isn’t going to do it. Jerry tells him that he’s doing everything in his power to convince her.
Back at he hearing, he tells Esperanza that Ivana is a no show.
Corina better get out of there before Aldo gets back, but she continues with the new wife. She tells her that Aldo framed Nayeli and that’s why she’s in jail, but new wife doesn’t believe it. Corina tells her that she has to know that that isn’t true, she know what kind of guy Aldo is. New wife doesn’t know who Corina is, but she doesn’t want to be put in the middle of this and then have Aldo leave her without any way to take care of herself. Corina promises that if anything happens to her, she will help her. New wife agrees.
Jerry tries again to convince Ivana. He tells her that he has always cared about her, but he’s not going to stand by and let her do this. He will not only show up and testify against Dan himself, but against Ivana too for being an accomplice. She continues to say she can’t.
Yes she can, and she has to. He doesn’t want to believe that she’s the woman that Susana says she really is. He knows she’s a marvelous person, and she will find that child that she’s wanting so badly. But this little girl isn’t her.
Ivana finally comes around, yes they have to save her from those wolves, (los Santibanez) they have to protect her. Jerry promises that by testifying, they will do just that. And the hearing has begun and they need to go. Ivana wants to see the baby before they go, but the baby is nowhere in sight.
The hearing has begun. The charges and the rules of the hearing are announced.
The prosecution says that that MD and Julian had a relationship. This causes Honoria to stand up saying it’s not true. The prosecution continues that it was well known that they had a relationship and this murder was a crime of passion, and that Julian wanted to continue with the relations even though she was marrying Max. The defendant had a pistol and she killed him so that he wouldn’t impede her plans to marry a rich man, that she was taking advantage of someone in a wheelchair who couldn’t defend himself.
The maid tells Ivana that the nurse has come to take care of the baby, but that Dan took the baby out. Ivana goes ballistic, and Jerry and Susana remind her that he’s the father and he won’t hurt her. Ivana calls him but has to leave a message. She leaves to go look for him. (I am so done with this chick)
Now the defense gets to make an opening statement. MD didn’t try to get rid of Julian, but she was defending herself against an attacker Daniel Santibanez, and Julian was accidentally shot in the process. And he will present evidence of Daniel’s continued threats and intimidations of his client and that he is a dangerous person who is guilty of what happened to Julian, not his client.
Monterubio calls Claudio to make a deal with him that will benefit both of them. Claudio doesn’t trust that he’s going to be honest with him. He tells Claudio that Marta was killed in a hurry and if he wants to know more, he needs to come to his office because this is only the beginning of something ugly that he doesn’t want to be involved in.
Fermin and Jenny arrive at the hearing but are told that they can’t go in because only witnesses are allowed inside. Fermin tells him that it’s very important because she has evidence about the shooting. He won’t let them in.
The doctor is advising Orlando about the care of Isela when she’s at home. She will need around the clock care. After all the information about hygiene and feeding, I hope that Orlando realizes it’s too much for him.
Now Josefa is giving her testimony. But first, she tells them that her daughter was going to come to declare herself as a witness, but she’s now in a coma because Claudio Bustamonte threw her over the second floor railing. He’s the father of her baby. But she heard everything the defendant told her daughter, about all the men she’s had in and that Max was the best the best thing that came along for her. He would take care of her, and MD was ridding herself of all the other men around her. That she was going to make sure Dan was put in jail and get rid of Julian too.
Max’s turn to counter. He tells her that she doesn’t have proof that Julian was ever MD’s lover or that she had a sexual relationship with Dan. She says she was there when MD said Julian was the baby’s father, and she was there when she saw MD in bed with Daniel. Max says that that was when she was raped by Dan, and Julian came to help her. Josefa comes back with that it was a supposed rape because no one saw it happen. The same with when Julian was killed.
Nayeli is calling her parents to apologize for what has happened with her. She’s paying dearly and so are her kids. Just then, Corina arrives with the children. A happy reunion ensues.
Aldo has a fit when he finds out that the kids aren’t there. She told them that they escaped when she left to go to the store. He leaves to find them, but not before hitting her in front of their child.
Ivana and Jerry get to Ursula’s to look for Dan but he’s not there. All Ursula can do is insult Ivana saying that she’s putting everything at risk by letting Dan be able to escape with the baby.
Honoria’s turn now. Honoria declares that she’s not going to testify and align herself with someone who is telling lies about her son. Julian was never MD’s lover. He was good and honest and had the values that she taught him. But the unfairness of his death and the pain that she has gone through made her go against those same values, and she won't continue to do that.
The end.
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CathyX, as always you do such a wonderful job! Thank you!
I want to stab Ivana with a pointy stick.
Will Honoria see the light?
I can't wait for the next week of shows, I'm on the edge of my seat!
I want to stab Ivana with a pointy stick.
Will Honoria see the light?
I can't wait for the next week of shows, I'm on the edge of my seat!
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: Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 1:46:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 1:46:00 PM EST
thank you so very much cathyx
"Swoon!!! What a galan."
Now that's a wedding! Can't tie the knot any tighter.
"Corina arrives with the children. A happy reunion ensues" I cheered and felt my team won a Bowl Game. Small win but we haven't had any.
That damn Aldo, he and Dan believe women are punching bags. Urgh.
Orlando had a what the hell did I agree to look on his face as the doc ran through just feeding a comatose Isela.
Please let Jenny in the dooooooor.
Come on Honoria blow up the prosecution and Max, nail Josefa for lying under oath.
Also thought it pertinent when Max pointed out the state had never even questioned Dan though MD's statement placed him in the room. I wonder if that was one of the things Claudio had a hand in?
Susana you rock.
Ivana should be institutionalized and I hope Max and MD do not give her a pass. She's sick.
"Swoon!!! What a galan."
Now that's a wedding! Can't tie the knot any tighter.
"Corina arrives with the children. A happy reunion ensues" I cheered and felt my team won a Bowl Game. Small win but we haven't had any.
That damn Aldo, he and Dan believe women are punching bags. Urgh.
Orlando had a what the hell did I agree to look on his face as the doc ran through just feeding a comatose Isela.
Please let Jenny in the dooooooor.
Come on Honoria blow up the prosecution and Max, nail Josefa for lying under oath.
Also thought it pertinent when Max pointed out the state had never even questioned Dan though MD's statement placed him in the room. I wonder if that was one of the things Claudio had a hand in?
Susana you rock.
Ivana should be institutionalized and I hope Max and MD do not give her a pass. She's sick.
Gracias, Cathy.
This Aldo needs to be locked up. It looks like he has a track record of taking advantage of vulnerable women with children, discards them when it's convenient, and discards their children. He's a total sociopath, just like Danny-Boy.
I agree that Ivana is toast. She has been completely useless all through this story. Manicomio now! However, as much as she might be a voice of reason now Susanna still deserves punishment for taking away Ivana's self-esteem in the first place. Ivana should have kicked her out years ago, but she's been around to do more damage.
Monterrubio needs a major anvil himself. I am not believing a word he's saying now. I vote that both he and Claudio off themselves.
Orlando has no clue what he's signing on for. If he goes through with that, Doris should ditch him. Nobody deserves to play second fiddle to the ex and end up becoming her nursemaid.
More later.
This Aldo needs to be locked up. It looks like he has a track record of taking advantage of vulnerable women with children, discards them when it's convenient, and discards their children. He's a total sociopath, just like Danny-Boy.
I agree that Ivana is toast. She has been completely useless all through this story. Manicomio now! However, as much as she might be a voice of reason now Susanna still deserves punishment for taking away Ivana's self-esteem in the first place. Ivana should have kicked her out years ago, but she's been around to do more damage.
Monterrubio needs a major anvil himself. I am not believing a word he's saying now. I vote that both he and Claudio off themselves.
Orlando has no clue what he's signing on for. If he goes through with that, Doris should ditch him. Nobody deserves to play second fiddle to the ex and end up becoming her nursemaid.
More later.
UA, I was wondering if Monterrubio was just luring Claudio in so that he can be killed. I thought that was what the plan was that he made with Ursula.
And I agree about Doris ditching him. That's not a fair exchange to be with him. He's a great guy and all, but not that great to be an unpaid nurse to the exgirlfriend of your boyfriend.
And I agree about Doris ditching him. That's not a fair exchange to be with him. He's a great guy and all, but not that great to be an unpaid nurse to the exgirlfriend of your boyfriend.
I also understood that Monterrubio is setting a trap to take Claudio down. I have no problem with that except that it is Monterrubio and Ursula. I want Claudio to do some damage to them before he goes. So far he's done little that helps Max & MD.
Ivana never had any intention of testifying for Maria Dolores. Why would she? To lose the baby to Maria Dolores?
Ivana would not care one bit if Maria Dolores was locked up for life, as long as Ivana gets what Ivana wants.
Sometimes we keep people around us who tell the truth about us. Ivana could've kicked Susana to the curb years ago. She kept her around because Susy confirms that Ivana is a terrible person.
Susana needs to remind Ivana the reason Ivana is sterile in the first place is because she refused medical treatment after the miscarriage.
It's not Maria Dolores' fault Ivana can't have children; its IVANA's fault.
Honoria & Jenny are coming to their senses but will it be too late?
The only people in the hearing room who know Max/Maria Dolores are married are Max, Maria Dolores & Esperanza.
Ivana would not care one bit if Maria Dolores was locked up for life, as long as Ivana gets what Ivana wants.
Sometimes we keep people around us who tell the truth about us. Ivana could've kicked Susana to the curb years ago. She kept her around because Susy confirms that Ivana is a terrible person.
Susana needs to remind Ivana the reason Ivana is sterile in the first place is because she refused medical treatment after the miscarriage.
It's not Maria Dolores' fault Ivana can't have children; its IVANA's fault.
Honoria & Jenny are coming to their senses but will it be too late?
The only people in the hearing room who know Max/Maria Dolores are married are Max, Maria Dolores & Esperanza.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 7:32:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 7:32:00 PM EST
Cathyx, a superb recap. Im glad honoria came around. I was really hating her attitude
Towards MD, She was enjoyin hurtin her, Im so Glad she did an about face. Josefa is just hopeless, shes a compulsive liar, dead inside
I really hope that guard lets fremin & jenny In. .
So glad gerry & aunty sue talked some sense
Into ivanna, but shes been side tracked by
Danny takin the prize ( his daughter). Poor kid, shes got alot to live down.
Iam still hoping isela wakes up, I know what the doc said, but miracles happen in tn land.
I so love how Max loves MD, he has got a lot of steam to unload. The love of his life is in
Prison, he finds out that his father is a cheat and a liar and he finds out that his mother is dying and he finds out that the woman his father cheated on his mom with is giving him a baby sister. Lucky little girl to have max &
Leo for big bros. She did not win the lottery in
The Daddy department. Alma would have been a Wonderful step mom. but that would not have happened, no way she was going to stay with the honorable mr bustamonte. Lite
On the "honorable", like non-existent.
The vultures have set there plan in motion, its about to get crazy.er
That was sweet that leo kissed isela on the forehead, did not expect that. Our little leo
Has grown up. Next week the insanity comes
To an end.
Towards MD, She was enjoyin hurtin her, Im so Glad she did an about face. Josefa is just hopeless, shes a compulsive liar, dead inside
I really hope that guard lets fremin & jenny In. .
So glad gerry & aunty sue talked some sense
Into ivanna, but shes been side tracked by
Danny takin the prize ( his daughter). Poor kid, shes got alot to live down.
Iam still hoping isela wakes up, I know what the doc said, but miracles happen in tn land.
I so love how Max loves MD, he has got a lot of steam to unload. The love of his life is in
Prison, he finds out that his father is a cheat and a liar and he finds out that his mother is dying and he finds out that the woman his father cheated on his mom with is giving him a baby sister. Lucky little girl to have max &
Leo for big bros. She did not win the lottery in
The Daddy department. Alma would have been a Wonderful step mom. but that would not have happened, no way she was going to stay with the honorable mr bustamonte. Lite
On the "honorable", like non-existent.
The vultures have set there plan in motion, its about to get crazy.er
That was sweet that leo kissed isela on the forehead, did not expect that. Our little leo
Has grown up. Next week the insanity comes
To an end.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 9:45:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 9:45:00 PM EST
Eli, lol, hahaha, why do you want to stab ivanna with a pointy stick? not that stabby anyone is funny, but it just made me laugh when I read that "I just want to stab ivanna with s pointy sick". What were you thinkin?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 9:56:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 9:56:00 PM EST
Thank you Nina. I am hoping that the hearing takes more than one day and then Jenny will have time to talk to Honoria and Max before it's over.
Thank you cathyx. I like your recappin skills.
Would not be enjoyable without the recapper people.
Would not be enjoyable without the recapper people.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 10:27:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 10:27:00 PM EST
Another terrific recap, Cathyx! THANK YOU- not just for this one- but for ALL of your wonderful contributions. You stellar batch of recappers have really done this wonderful show the justice that it deserves.
Max sure is his mother's son, isn't he? Mind you, so is Leo. (AND THANK GOD! (lol))
Josefa lies her disgusting face off and slanders both the imprisoned and the dead in the process. I've said it before and I'll say it again- she doesn't not deserve to be in civil society and live in a world that has any goodness or kindness as she contributes nothing of these herself.
With Honoria coming around (THANK GOD!) I think it'll be easier for to bring Jenny around to do the right thing as well. Here's hoping!
Ivana's self-loathing is so deep and so profound it encompasses masochism. She can't be trusted to do anything right because her masochism demands that she do things that people will revile her for. This will further foster her belief in her own worthlessness. Dan, and Ursula, to that extent perversely would have been the ideal mate for her (but I wouldn't wish that on anybody). Sad, pathetic, broken individual (again, just like Dan)
Once again, I seem to be rooting #GoTeamSusana. She's a vile and negative harpy but I am absolutely LOVING her in the role of Greek Chorus.
So Monterrubio begins putting into effect Ursula's master-plan contra Claudio. Claudio doesn't realize how dirty and dangerous the people are that he's gotten himself involved with... it would serve both Monterrubio and Marcia if Claudio were to be gotten out of the way, and I don't think he realizes how much Ursula is willing to do to have both he and Max killed, or how truly deadly an adversary she really is. Ironically, if Claudio weren't such a pariah to his family (because of his own actions, of course), they might stand a chance but with Claudio on his own up against such forces it could be said he's bringing whatever he gets on himself.
WAKE UP, ORLANDO!!! DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
Max sure is his mother's son, isn't he? Mind you, so is Leo. (AND THANK GOD! (lol))
Josefa lies her disgusting face off and slanders both the imprisoned and the dead in the process. I've said it before and I'll say it again- she doesn't not deserve to be in civil society and live in a world that has any goodness or kindness as she contributes nothing of these herself.
With Honoria coming around (THANK GOD!) I think it'll be easier for to bring Jenny around to do the right thing as well. Here's hoping!
Ivana's self-loathing is so deep and so profound it encompasses masochism. She can't be trusted to do anything right because her masochism demands that she do things that people will revile her for. This will further foster her belief in her own worthlessness. Dan, and Ursula, to that extent perversely would have been the ideal mate for her (but I wouldn't wish that on anybody). Sad, pathetic, broken individual (again, just like Dan)
Once again, I seem to be rooting #GoTeamSusana. She's a vile and negative harpy but I am absolutely LOVING her in the role of Greek Chorus.
So Monterrubio begins putting into effect Ursula's master-plan contra Claudio. Claudio doesn't realize how dirty and dangerous the people are that he's gotten himself involved with... it would serve both Monterrubio and Marcia if Claudio were to be gotten out of the way, and I don't think he realizes how much Ursula is willing to do to have both he and Max killed, or how truly deadly an adversary she really is. Ironically, if Claudio weren't such a pariah to his family (because of his own actions, of course), they might stand a chance but with Claudio on his own up against such forces it could be said he's bringing whatever he gets on himself.
WAKE UP, ORLANDO!!! DON'T DO IT!!!!!!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 10:46:00 PM EST
: Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 10:46:00 PM EST
Its hard taking care of a person who can't do the very basics for themselves. Let alone a person in a coma. She can't even move. He'll
Have to do it all for her. Believe me that is very hard work, emotional,pychological and
Physically exhausting. I can"t see him doing
This. And there is doris. He really needs to think this through. I hope they let her wake up. Come on writers the girl has suffered
Enough. A product of a sorded affair, or was
It rape by her step grandfather on her mom.
And then marta get set up to go to prison and
She gets stuck being raised by a twisted
Woman who lies to her her whole life. And
Then gets used by her grandma/mom. The
Girl needs a brake. WAKE UP ISELA!!! YOUR
Daughter needs you. She did things to her
Best friend, and broke the heart of a sweet
Lady. But she turned her life around, and she apologized . and just when she's got her life together she's almost murdered by a psycho that calls herself grandma. Wake up girl.
Have to do it all for her. Believe me that is very hard work, emotional,pychological and
Physically exhausting. I can"t see him doing
This. And there is doris. He really needs to think this through. I hope they let her wake up. Come on writers the girl has suffered
Enough. A product of a sorded affair, or was
It rape by her step grandfather on her mom.
And then marta get set up to go to prison and
She gets stuck being raised by a twisted
Woman who lies to her her whole life. And
Then gets used by her grandma/mom. The
Girl needs a brake. WAKE UP ISELA!!! YOUR
Daughter needs you. She did things to her
Best friend, and broke the heart of a sweet
Lady. But she turned her life around, and she apologized . and just when she's got her life together she's almost murdered by a psycho that calls herself grandma. Wake up girl.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 12:34:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 12:34:00 AM EST
I would argue Isela didn't turn her life around because she never confessed to what she did to Maria Dolores.
She, like Ivana, had several months to tell Max what they know and chose not to.
She, like Ivana, had several months to tell Max what they know and chose not to.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 1:59:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 1:59:00 AM EST
Actually, without deserving it and up till she went over the railing, accidentally, there was undeserved support for Isela. Simply because she carried her lovers child and was Josefa's grandchild she lived alone in a nice apartment, a closet full of MD's clothes, (MD sure didn't need them) a job created specifically for her with Ivana, top notch prenatal care and Orlando to run errands. Isela never would want for anything for the rest of her life and had both Claudio and Orlando hovering.
Whatever her original intent that changed when she slept with Claudio and fell in love. Most of the lies, manipulation and back door deals with the Santibáñez were done to protect that relationship for her selfish ends. She was an equal opportunity manipulator. Orlando, Alma, Claudio, Maleny, Ari, Josefa, Julian, MD, Max, Leo, Honoria, Clara, Adrian, anyone that came in contact with her. We have yet to see all the consequences from her actions, some of which the fallout recipient is clueless the cause. Doris knows what caused her future with Orlando to take a turn but MD hasn't a clue she may lose her child to her rapist, and her bff helped. I haven't forgotten Isela did nothing when Jacinto abducted MD and took her to Ursula. I haven't forgotten the times MD put her trust in Isela before her relationship with Max.
Whatever her original intent that changed when she slept with Claudio and fell in love. Most of the lies, manipulation and back door deals with the Santibáñez were done to protect that relationship for her selfish ends. She was an equal opportunity manipulator. Orlando, Alma, Claudio, Maleny, Ari, Josefa, Julian, MD, Max, Leo, Honoria, Clara, Adrian, anyone that came in contact with her. We have yet to see all the consequences from her actions, some of which the fallout recipient is clueless the cause. Doris knows what caused her future with Orlando to take a turn but MD hasn't a clue she may lose her child to her rapist, and her bff helped. I haven't forgotten Isela did nothing when Jacinto abducted MD and took her to Ursula. I haven't forgotten the times MD put her trust in Isela before her relationship with Max.
After having dealt with Danny-Boy it's not surprising that MD would trust Isela first -- as a woman and a life-long friend -- over a new boyfriend. Of course, she didn't know what we know and still doesn't know the worst.
Is Honoria coming to her senses? I guess I will find out in the next episode.
Is Honoria coming to her senses? I guess I will find out in the next episode.
Cathyx- I finally just finished watching the episode. This was such a wonderful retelling of this emotional episode.
Even after seeing what a horrible person Ivana can be, Gerry was still trying hard to bring out the best in her. While both he and Susana are truth tellers, their ways of dealing with Ivana are very different. He wants her to be her better self. Susana just wants her to be held prisoner by her demons so that the two of them can be alone together in their misery. So even though I was rooting Susana on as she and Gerry got on Ivana's case, I can't be supportive of her ultimate goal. She wants Ivana to be a weak, bitter, lonely ATM.
Random facts: Gerry (Pablo Perroni) is Maite Perroni's cousin. And the oldest boy playing Nayeli's (Violeta Isfel) son, is her real life son.
After MD gets out, Honoria better get on her knees and beg her forgiveness. Glad she came to her senses, but the thing that finally moved her was hearing Julian being slandered. It wasn't hearing MD being slandered. It wasn't MD being in jail for possibly most of the rest of her life. It wasn't Dan walking around smug and free. It wasn't MD being separated from her child. Nope. It was just hearing her precious baby Julian being slandered.
Even after seeing what a horrible person Ivana can be, Gerry was still trying hard to bring out the best in her. While both he and Susana are truth tellers, their ways of dealing with Ivana are very different. He wants her to be her better self. Susana just wants her to be held prisoner by her demons so that the two of them can be alone together in their misery. So even though I was rooting Susana on as she and Gerry got on Ivana's case, I can't be supportive of her ultimate goal. She wants Ivana to be a weak, bitter, lonely ATM.
Random facts: Gerry (Pablo Perroni) is Maite Perroni's cousin. And the oldest boy playing Nayeli's (Violeta Isfel) son, is her real life son.
After MD gets out, Honoria better get on her knees and beg her forgiveness. Glad she came to her senses, but the thing that finally moved her was hearing Julian being slandered. It wasn't hearing MD being slandered. It wasn't MD being in jail for possibly most of the rest of her life. It wasn't Dan walking around smug and free. It wasn't MD being separated from her child. Nope. It was just hearing her precious baby Julian being slandered.
Tofie- I agree with your assessment of Isela. Perhaps had she truly come clean to everyone, and had she truly struck out on her own and stood on her own two feet, instead of taking advantage of everyone's kindness and ignorance, I would feel like this ending was unjustified and felt bad for her. But who I feel worse for are Doris and Orlando, who have been given the burden of caring for her, or the guilt of NOT caring for her if that's what they decide. It's unfair.
The announcer said Monday December 11th will be the finale. Again, this makes no sense with the amount of episodes we have left. So unless Uni found some magical never-before-seen episodes, that not even Mexico saw, then there will be some funny business with episodes next week.
"the guilt of NOT caring for her" More so for Doris than for Orlando but agree.
Doris is a good person and has made honest effort to adjust and accept and I support her walking away from Orlando but guilt born of her insecurity would make her believe she was selfish. I haven't seen the same willingness to compromise from Orlando but again his priority has been and always will be Isela.
Isela knew that MD would support their friendship over anything or anyone else and why the betrayal more damning. I also think Isela was jealous of MD & Max's relationship and MD's refusal to equate hers with that of Isela and Claudio's. It should have been a clue for MD. It's a shame Max had to fight and go through hell for the respect and trust a naive MD freely gave to Isela and Dan.
Doris is a good person and has made honest effort to adjust and accept and I support her walking away from Orlando but guilt born of her insecurity would make her believe she was selfish. I haven't seen the same willingness to compromise from Orlando but again his priority has been and always will be Isela.
Isela knew that MD would support their friendship over anything or anyone else and why the betrayal more damning. I also think Isela was jealous of MD & Max's relationship and MD's refusal to equate hers with that of Isela and Claudio's. It should have been a clue for MD. It's a shame Max had to fight and go through hell for the respect and trust a naive MD freely gave to Isela and Dan.
MD didn't have a reason not to put Isela over Max. She had known Max only a few months. She has known Isela her whole life and considered her a sister. Isela was family.
Thanks, Cathyx. Terrific recap. This was a pivotal episode and I appreciate all the detail you brought to it. Hey, I just noticed your photo on the sidebar -- fabulous picture!
Isela never got a chance to turn her life around. She came by her manipulation and secretiveness naturally with a mother/grandmother like Josefa. Maybe having the baby would've changed Isela for the better. Maybe, maybe not. But she never killed anyone.
Yay, Honoria and Jenny are finally coming to their senses.
Isela never got a chance to turn her life around. She came by her manipulation and secretiveness naturally with a mother/grandmother like Josefa. Maybe having the baby would've changed Isela for the better. Maybe, maybe not. But she never killed anyone.
Yay, Honoria and Jenny are finally coming to their senses.
Thanks Niecie and Vivi. I think it's nice to put a face with a name. The person never looks as the one you pictured in your mind, lol.
Isela offered her bff's head on a platter to the man that raped her and not once confessed or attempted to make amends. That's pretty unforgivable. Isela still wanted to visit or speak to MD in prison and have MD investigate the mystery of her mothers death but remained mum about her part in MD being there. Isela, Claudio and Ivana know the type people the Santibáñez are and death possible along with the rape and baby snatching scheme yet they all proceeded.
I agree that the only thing that turned Honoria around was hearing the slander about her son. She agreed not to testify against MD, but she hasn't agreed to help her defense either. She doesn't know that Dan was there when Julian died, or at least doesn't believe it to be true. And I guess Jenny was the same way until she remembered what he said to her. If this trial only lasts one day, then who knows how that information can become known, but I would hope that a murder trial would last longer than one day.
Cathyx- Max said to Espy that he would work on getting Ivana there the next day, so I do believe there will be at least another day of deliberations and testimony.
MD told them all it was Dan. Everyone else believed it except Honoria and Jenny, because they WANTED MD to be guilty.
MD told them all it was Dan. Everyone else believed it except Honoria and Jenny, because they WANTED MD to be guilty.
I noticed that when the gun was brought up, Max didn't bring up the fact that it was Honoria who gave MD that gun (blowing the premeditation crap out of the water). They likely didn't because it would get Honoria (and the Barrio Boys) into some deep legal problems. Hon flinched at the mention of the gun, bu I wonder if she realized too that MD and Max saved her butt by not saying where the damn gun came from?
Actually, now that I thinks about it, since the Barrio Boys are there as witnesses, that may mean the ARE going to testify about the gun. I hope so. But I hope it doesn't get them in legal trouble.
So while Ivana traipses around town looking for Dan, we have to hope that Jenny's word about what Dan said to her will be enough evidence to at least have reasonable doubt to MD's guilt.
Are there really only 122 episodes? So we have 4 shows left and we need to find MD innocent, have her get custody of the baby, have some justice done to Ursula and Dan, have Claudio clean up his messes, and have some sort of wrap up of Isela and baby. That's a lot to fit in in 4 episodes.
Are there really only 122 episodes? So we have 4 shows left and we need to find MD innocent, have her get custody of the baby, have some justice done to Ursula and Dan, have Claudio clean up his messes, and have some sort of wrap up of Isela and baby. That's a lot to fit in in 4 episodes.
Cathyx- There are actually only 121 episodes. But the finale is 2 hours which will surely be split, per Uni's usual. In any case, still only 4 hours to go (and 6 days allotted somehow).
How wonderful to a have a tn that doesn't feel too long, right? Love tns that are 100-125 capitulos.
How wonderful to a have a tn that doesn't feel too long, right? Love tns that are 100-125 capitulos.
How wonderful to a have a tn that doesn't feel too long, right? Love tns that are 100-125 capitulos.
Yes, especially when you're recapping it, like the worst TN in the world Corazon Indomable. But this one feels too short to me.
Yes, especially when you're recapping it, like the worst TN in the world Corazon Indomable. But this one feels too short to me.
When will we see a Karmageddon ? I am not that far because I left the ship when MD bailed on Max but I am catching up again. I just dont know which Reptillian should I consider to be the worst because they all give me cancer.
Hey Countx! Happy New Year! Hope you join us for the final week. Only fitting since you started off as a recapper on this show.
Tofie & Vivi- brilliant analyses of both Isela and Susana, respectively. I had never viewed things that way yet you're both absolutely right. Spot on! :-)
Nice to have you back, Count! Likewise, I hope you'll stick around... it's a TERRIFIC ride!!!
Nice to have you back, Count! Likewise, I hope you'll stick around... it's a TERRIFIC ride!!!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 3:31:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 3, 2016 at 3:31:00 PM EST
Yeah, I have to agree. It is an all around a fantastic telenovela but also aggrevating because it potrays reality. Horrible monsters like the Santibaniez do exist in real life. Although what got me the most was MD's nonsensencical and pure bullshitical choices. I will never forgive her for being a lying schmuck. But anyways I am glad that I am back on track with this one. If I dont like the female protangoist than I will enjoy the bad guys receiving their very deserved portion of KARMA. They are some of the most vile villians I have seen so far. I know that this is said on every other novela but these monsters just eat the cake. I am utterly repulsed and threatened by their actions but yet I have to admire the work that was put in the writing and acting especially Sophie Alexander and Flavio Medina for these unique characters that give me the creeps every single episode.
Terrific recap, thank you Cathy!
I have loved..LOVED this novela and I am so sad to see it end. I found myself having a soft spot for Isela despite her horrible behavior. I think being abused and used by Josefa daily had to do a number on her mentally. Using others is what she was taught..not making excuses for her because she could have done right by MD and the others. I just always felt she was that little girl looking for approval from Josefa. I also think with Clod it was really Daddy issues. She never had the protection of a father. She was a messed up girl.
If I thought I couldn't loathe Ivana more..she got me this episode. A selfish loathsome biotch..I don't even know how Jerry can stand to be in the same room as her. She simply proved me right that Ivana has always been a poor woe is me little rich girl looking to blame others for her sad pitiful life. GMAFB..Ivana has always been willing to believe the worst of MD and it's all rooted in Daniel. He loved MD and I think somewhere in her idiotic gourd Ivan resents MD for taking away everything she thinks she should have. The man who loves her, the baby and the happily ever after. Ivana is willing to stick it to MD. Ivana needs to be locked up for aiding Daniel a known rapist and murderer. Jerry needs to fall in love with someone normal and decent not some needy whiny headcase who is never happy.
Tia Susana is my hero. She told Ivana some harsh truth and Jerry too! Ivana was always willing to throw in with Santibanez..she's no victim. Brava for someone who cut to the chase.
I'm probably the only one here who is disturbed by Jenny getting Julian's sperm to get pregnant. I understand she loved the man, but like Ivana she always came off as desperate. She wants to give Fermin and Honoria something of Julian's but it's also self serving. If she couldn't have Julian in life she'll have him in death. Julian never loved her..and while she will probably be a wonderful mother to the child..it was never Julian's wish for her to mother his child. It's a huge sticking point with me that both Ivana and Jenny want children from men who never loved them..just so they can have what they want. They both need to get some dignity.
Honoria gets no pass from me. As was mentioned up thread, she wants to preserve her son's image..not help MD. I can't get past that MD has suffered unspeakable horror, her baby born under horrible abuse and Honoria like Ivana could have prevented it possibly by speaking up. Honoria needs to live with that. I doubt she'll get any karma.
I think Orlando feels guilty because he somehow feels he failed Isela, he didn't but I think he really wanted to save her from Josefa and couldn't. He probably sees Claudio as yet another person who preyed on her. And older man who knew better.
What I don't understand is about the neighbors is why did they keep their mouth shut about Josefa? At the very least she deserved to know when she was old enough to leave. In that sense I feel they failed. Isela deserved to be protected from Josefa at the very least.
I think Max is possibly one of the best Galans I have ever seen in a novela. His love for MD is unwavering. His faithfulness and strong abiding love for MD is something that has truly shone. I can't think of a moment when I have been disappointed in him. MD has truly tested him and he's passed with flying colors.
I have loved..LOVED this novela and I am so sad to see it end. I found myself having a soft spot for Isela despite her horrible behavior. I think being abused and used by Josefa daily had to do a number on her mentally. Using others is what she was taught..not making excuses for her because she could have done right by MD and the others. I just always felt she was that little girl looking for approval from Josefa. I also think with Clod it was really Daddy issues. She never had the protection of a father. She was a messed up girl.
If I thought I couldn't loathe Ivana more..she got me this episode. A selfish loathsome biotch..I don't even know how Jerry can stand to be in the same room as her. She simply proved me right that Ivana has always been a poor woe is me little rich girl looking to blame others for her sad pitiful life. GMAFB..Ivana has always been willing to believe the worst of MD and it's all rooted in Daniel. He loved MD and I think somewhere in her idiotic gourd Ivan resents MD for taking away everything she thinks she should have. The man who loves her, the baby and the happily ever after. Ivana is willing to stick it to MD. Ivana needs to be locked up for aiding Daniel a known rapist and murderer. Jerry needs to fall in love with someone normal and decent not some needy whiny headcase who is never happy.
Tia Susana is my hero. She told Ivana some harsh truth and Jerry too! Ivana was always willing to throw in with Santibanez..she's no victim. Brava for someone who cut to the chase.
I'm probably the only one here who is disturbed by Jenny getting Julian's sperm to get pregnant. I understand she loved the man, but like Ivana she always came off as desperate. She wants to give Fermin and Honoria something of Julian's but it's also self serving. If she couldn't have Julian in life she'll have him in death. Julian never loved her..and while she will probably be a wonderful mother to the child..it was never Julian's wish for her to mother his child. It's a huge sticking point with me that both Ivana and Jenny want children from men who never loved them..just so they can have what they want. They both need to get some dignity.
Honoria gets no pass from me. As was mentioned up thread, she wants to preserve her son's image..not help MD. I can't get past that MD has suffered unspeakable horror, her baby born under horrible abuse and Honoria like Ivana could have prevented it possibly by speaking up. Honoria needs to live with that. I doubt she'll get any karma.
I think Orlando feels guilty because he somehow feels he failed Isela, he didn't but I think he really wanted to save her from Josefa and couldn't. He probably sees Claudio as yet another person who preyed on her. And older man who knew better.
What I don't understand is about the neighbors is why did they keep their mouth shut about Josefa? At the very least she deserved to know when she was old enough to leave. In that sense I feel they failed. Isela deserved to be protected from Josefa at the very least.
I think Max is possibly one of the best Galans I have ever seen in a novela. His love for MD is unwavering. His faithfulness and strong abiding love for MD is something that has truly shone. I can't think of a moment when I have been disappointed in him. MD has truly tested him and he's passed with flying colors.
Delilah- You are not the only one disturbed by Jenny having Julian's baby. We discussed it back when Fermin brought it up to Jenny, and no one here thought it was a good idea, it we agreed that the child will be raised with love, care and attention with Jenny, Fermin and Honoria. Which is more than be said for some of our other little ones on the show. At the end of the day, Jenny having Julian's baby isn't going to hurt anybody, like these baby stealing situations. I am also a bit relieved to see that Jenny went through months of rehab before being inseminated, working first on her mental state.
Both Isela and Ivana grew up with adults that emotionally abused them and made them feel worthless. But they are both responsible for the mistakes they made as adults and what they did to other people. I don't care how much either of them whined about it-- and they were both whiners when it came to justifying their horrible behavior.
Both Isela and Ivana grew up with adults that emotionally abused them and made them feel worthless. But they are both responsible for the mistakes they made as adults and what they did to other people. I don't care how much either of them whined about it-- and they were both whiners when it came to justifying their horrible behavior.
Just as part of what's driving Ivana is her resentment and jealousy over MD having what she should have had (Dan's love, Dan's baby, design talent, a slim figure), I think part of what drove Isela to betray MD was her presently and jealousy over MD's relationship with Max. Unlike Clod, Max declared his love for MD to all, fought for their love, wanted to marry her, and stood by her side. These were all things she knew she'd never get from Clod.
Vivi I must have missed that discussion regarding Jenny and being inseminated. Yes, at least she will be a good mother.
I don't pardon either Isela or Ivana their terrible selfish behavior. I just wonder if Isela had been given full knowledge about her parental situation she might have had the option to free herself before making the choices she did. It bothers me that those who all knew kept their mouths shut and now want to grieve over her almost lifeless body. It's too little too late. She is an adult who can't blame others for her choices, but she did have the right to know the truth. That's what is sticking in my craw. Josefa's secret was protected.
I don't pardon either Isela or Ivana their terrible selfish behavior. I just wonder if Isela had been given full knowledge about her parental situation she might have had the option to free herself before making the choices she did. It bothers me that those who all knew kept their mouths shut and now want to grieve over her almost lifeless body. It's too little too late. She is an adult who can't blame others for her choices, but she did have the right to know the truth. That's what is sticking in my craw. Josefa's secret was protected.
Delilah- You ask about the neighbors knowing the truth about Isela. No one knew Josefa wasn't Isela's mom except for Honoria. And even she didn't know Marta was Isela's mother. What they all knew was that Jo was abusive. But I don't think anyone knew they extent, and I really don't think it's unusual of most people to not call child services of parent abusers, especially in countries where people see that the system might be worse than the home the kids are coming from. I think they all did what they thought they could-- told off Josefa and a regular basis, and kept and fed Isela in their homes as much as Jo would allow (which is what Epsy and Rudolf did). Notice how terrified Nayeli's kids were when Corina mentioned DIF (Mexico's child services). Their reputation isn't a good one.
It was only a few days between when Espy wrung the info out of Honoria about Josefa not being Isela's mom, and she discussed it with MD, and when MD told Isela.
Yes you bring a good poiht about the child services. It's well known they are not a good system. I was under the impression that at least Espy knew about Josefa not being her mother, was that not the case? Yes, I agree that Isela was jealous of MD's relationship with Max. Isela like Ivana wanted what MD has. I think Isela may have even resented MD's friendship and loyalty from those around her. Isela seemed to always struggle in her relationships.
Regarding Doris and Orlando, I have a feeling they will at least keep the baby. Orlando seems to be getting the gravity of Isela's medical care. He's not in any position to care for her. I see Claudio footing the bill for a facility or nurse of some sort. It's obvious Doris loves Orlando and wants to make a life with him. Isela is the sticking point.
Regarding Doris and Orlando, I have a feeling they will at least keep the baby. Orlando seems to be getting the gravity of Isela's medical care. He's not in any position to care for her. I see Claudio footing the bill for a facility or nurse of some sort. It's obvious Doris loves Orlando and wants to make a life with him. Isela is the sticking point.
Ah..I see you beat me to the question of Espy's knowledge of Isela's parentage. Thank you! It all fits now. I really need to read the recaps daily..I'm missing vital info and convos! I'll do better in 2016.
When the doctor was cluing Orlando in on all the requirements that Isela will need to be taken care of, I was thinking about where on earth Orlando would even put her in his tiny place. Will she be a fixture in his living room? Will she get the bedroom and he will sleep in the living room? And what about the baby? Where will the baby sleep?
Yes it's a daunting task and one Orlando is ill prepared for. It's unfair to ask Doris to give up her dreams and career to be a glorified wife that is simply caring for Isela and the baby. That's no life for Doris. Still I don't see her saying no completely to Orlando, I just see her suggesting another alternative for Isela.
In my ending she says no and we see Doris end happy with her decision and she and MD build a great fashion house with Jerry part of their team! That was what I always wanted for MD and Doris. I don't see Doris as a tamed housewife catering 24/7 to any man.
It'll never happen but I can dream ;)
In my ending she says no and we see Doris end happy with her decision and she and MD build a great fashion house with Jerry part of their team! That was what I always wanted for MD and Doris. I don't see Doris as a tamed housewife catering 24/7 to any man.
It'll never happen but I can dream ;)
Someone said this before but it's possible that the neighbors who didn't do anything about Josefa's abuse of Isela were afraid of becoming the kind of target that MD ultimately became. I can't believe that she was the first victim of Josefa's brand of character assassination.
We never saw the neighbors shrink from telling Jo off or shunning her, so I'm sure they had many arguments over the years with her about Isela. If anything, they probably held back when they thought their interference would make Jo treat Isela worse, which is something she would do.
When Isela became an adult, she had the free will to leave Josefa's abuse. Any of the neighbors would've taken Isela in.
She could've married Orlando several times to escape Josefa's household but she chose to stay and seduce Claudio.
In fact, if she weren't in a coma, if Isela had suggested to Orlando they get married and raise the baby together, they would be married today. That doesn't mean Orlando doesn't love Doris but he would value Isela & the baby more.
Isela stayed and played seduction & trickery games with the Bustamantes because she wanted to.
Similarly, Ivana could've tossed Susana out at any time. She has enough money to set Susana up in a nice apartment and give her a monthly allowance if need be. She chose to keep Susana around and chose to lay down with the Santibanez dogs, when she knew
a) they were only after her because of her money
b) tried to kill her at least once
c) raped Maria Dolores
d) was attacking Maria Dolores, which is why Julian was killed
Ivana knew all of this but still chose to get down with them. So if she has any fleas on her, oh well.
Ivana's karma should be being barred from adopting any children ...ever.
I'm not sure what Honoria's karma should be. She's already lost the person who is most important to her.
She could've married Orlando several times to escape Josefa's household but she chose to stay and seduce Claudio.
In fact, if she weren't in a coma, if Isela had suggested to Orlando they get married and raise the baby together, they would be married today. That doesn't mean Orlando doesn't love Doris but he would value Isela & the baby more.
Isela stayed and played seduction & trickery games with the Bustamantes because she wanted to.
Similarly, Ivana could've tossed Susana out at any time. She has enough money to set Susana up in a nice apartment and give her a monthly allowance if need be. She chose to keep Susana around and chose to lay down with the Santibanez dogs, when she knew
a) they were only after her because of her money
b) tried to kill her at least once
c) raped Maria Dolores
d) was attacking Maria Dolores, which is why Julian was killed
Ivana knew all of this but still chose to get down with them. So if she has any fleas on her, oh well.
Ivana's karma should be being barred from adopting any children ...ever.
I'm not sure what Honoria's karma should be. She's already lost the person who is most important to her.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 4, 2016 at 11:47:00 AM EST
: Monday, January 4, 2016 at 11:47:00 AM EST
Susanna is an older, way more bitter version of Clara. Truth without all the crapola. Susanna may relish taking someone down a peg more than Clara, but she's still right. She needs to find a rich man to take care of her and get out of that house. If Gerry wants to take on Ivana and her issues, let him (even though he deserves better).
Sure glad that Clara-as-possible-prostitute situation got wrapped up quickly. Shows that Clara is too intelligent to get stuck with someone like Ivana. Poor Aunt Susie.
Kelly
Sure glad that Clara-as-possible-prostitute situation got wrapped up quickly. Shows that Clara is too intelligent to get stuck with someone like Ivana. Poor Aunt Susie.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:27:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:27:00 PM EST
I have no pity for Susanna. She may be a voice of reason now but Ivana wouldn't have half her present issues if it weren't for Susanna's past abuse. That Ivana doesn't want to hear a word she says is the payback for all the emotional abuse she dished out when Ivana was much younger.
Cathyx--Thank you for the very long and most excellent recap. If I don't send this off now, before the comments get read, it'll be close to 10 pm before I could make one. Everyone else has made such good sense.
I hope Honoria does the right thing. I hope they take a break and Max finds Jenny outside the hearing room. I don't know if her testimony will help or not. Ivana is an actual eyewitness, her testimony is crucial. I really don't care if she makes it to the hearing. I wouldn't want to be beholden to her for the rest of my life for helping to free me--AND being responsible for Dan taking my baby. There has got to be another way. Maybe Honoria will admit she gave the gun to MD for safekeeping--although that alone wouldn't change the outcome--Julian is dead and MD was holding the gun that shot him. But someone has GOT to put Daniel at the scene.
Jenny's testimony is second-hand and not acceptable in a court trial. We've been led to believe this is a "hearing." At the same time, this "hearing" is going to determine guilt or innocence and MD will be sentenced accordingly. I guess it's the hearing examiner that decides the fate of the person being held for the crime.
I hope Honoria does the right thing. I hope they take a break and Max finds Jenny outside the hearing room. I don't know if her testimony will help or not. Ivana is an actual eyewitness, her testimony is crucial. I really don't care if she makes it to the hearing. I wouldn't want to be beholden to her for the rest of my life for helping to free me--AND being responsible for Dan taking my baby. There has got to be another way. Maybe Honoria will admit she gave the gun to MD for safekeeping--although that alone wouldn't change the outcome--Julian is dead and MD was holding the gun that shot him. But someone has GOT to put Daniel at the scene.
Jenny's testimony is second-hand and not acceptable in a court trial. We've been led to believe this is a "hearing." At the same time, this "hearing" is going to determine guilt or innocence and MD will be sentenced accordingly. I guess it's the hearing examiner that decides the fate of the person being held for the crime.
Susana is NOT like Clara. Susana tells the "truth" to hurt, not to help. She also relishes putting Ivana down in general, something we saw from the very first episode, before Ivana did anything crazy. She loves throwing Ivana's weight, and her plainness in her face-- comparing her unfavorably to her glamorous mother. This is all calculated to make sure Ivana will remain ALONE, and completely reliant on her-- no one else to share the Vera Duval gravy train. That's also what bothers her so much about Ivana's relationship with Gerry-- not so much that Gerry is gay (although she is a homophobe), but that his presence and influence make Ivana stronger and more willing/able to kick Susana out of her life. She's a user and an abuser. But she is often right about Ivana's true motivations.
I was trying to remember the word hearsay (senior moment)--that's what Jenny's testimony would be and in most instances unacceptable.
Except that there is no jury trial in Mexico. The "trial" is before a judge with no other people present that aren't part of the proceedings. So there seems to be no distinction between a hearing and a trial.
I think Jenny mainly wants to speak to Honoria, but she probably also wants to speak to Max. But I don't think what Dan said to her is really admissible either. She and Honoria were the ONLY two delusional fools who had convinced themselves that Dan had nothing to do with the shooting, so what Dan said is really only relevant to the two of them.
There are hearsay exceptions in US law but Daniel telling Jenny it was an accident would not meet them in determining guilt or innocence in MD's trial however Jenny saying Dan made statements he had knowledge of what happened to Julian when he threatened her could place him (Dan) at the scene.
My guess if Jenny is able to speak to Honoria it will convince her that MD's version is correct and was an accident caused during the struggle. Honoria can testify for the defense that Dan's attorney coached she and Josefa to support a version that was not true and that Josefa lied under oath.
My guess if Jenny is able to speak to Honoria it will convince her that MD's version is correct and was an accident caused during the struggle. Honoria can testify for the defense that Dan's attorney coached she and Josefa to support a version that was not true and that Josefa lied under oath.
Tofie--thanks to your accredited knowledge of U.S. jurisprudence, we know where MD stands; mine was only acquired (second-hand) as a law librarian. I knew there were hearsay exceptions, you explained it perfectly. There have been instances in Mexico where we have been shown a jury trial (or re-hearing). Most notable example was in Un Refugio Para el Amor when there was a jury for the re-opening of Claudio Linares' conviction. They found him innocent. I'm sure there was at least one other recent tn that had a sort of non-descript jury hearing evidence.
It's possible that my irritation at Ivana is coloring my view of Susanna. Or maybe I'm just in a bitchy, post-holiday mood. I still can't hate Susanna. Ivana is not some helpless 20-year old like Isela (if you want to plead her case). She's managed to run a business and be successful, and could afford all the therapy she wanted. Instead, she plays the victim, and I do think she plays it up the same way Isela did. She could have kicked out Susie years ago and let Gerry take her room. Or she's got more serious issues and needs in-patient care for a bit. I get that emotional abuse runs deeper than a telenovela can show, but I've lost all patience for Ivana. Get help or go away. Doris can take over the business.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 4, 2016 at 5:56:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 4, 2016 at 5:56:00 PM EST
Here's another sobering article about the Mexican justice system from the WSJ:
http://tinyurl.com/j543byq
Kelly- I agree with everything you say about Ivana. But just because she's an awful person, doesn't negate the fact that Susana is an awful person too.
http://tinyurl.com/j543byq
Kelly- I agree with everything you say about Ivana. But just because she's an awful person, doesn't negate the fact that Susana is an awful person too.
Thanks for that article, Vivi. It's truly shocking.
Also, in the US I think Julian's dying declaration to Fermin would be admissible under the exceptions to the hearsay rule. At least here in NYC.
Also, in the US I think Julian's dying declaration to Fermin would be admissible under the exceptions to the hearsay rule. At least here in NYC.
ATTENTION! There was NO new episode tonight. Tonight's episode is a repeat of this episode (Friday's episode).
I know that isels has done a lot of terrible things for selfish reasons, but I also think that it would be great if she did wake up so she can maybe apologize for doing those things, to try to make up for them in some way. I think she at least deserve that chance.
If Max can forgive Maria Dolores all the crazy stuff she's done and I mean she's got some crazy stuff she put that man through, so much heartache, hopefully isela will give Orlando and doris the chance to have a life together that would be nice. They could be the little girls godparents.
If Max can forgive Maria Dolores all the crazy stuff she's done and I mean she's got some crazy stuff she put that man through, so much heartache, hopefully isela will give Orlando and doris the chance to have a life together that would be nice. They could be the little girls godparents.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 4, 2016 at 10:24:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 4, 2016 at 10:24:00 PM EST
Isela had at least 5 months while MD was rotting in jail to come clean, tell all she knew about the plot against MD, apologize, and help her BFF, but she didn't. Instead, she enjoyed her cushy job at Vera Duval, her nice apartment (Ari's), and Orlando waiting on her hand and foot. She had her chance. No stupid mistake that MD made came close to the deliberate betrayal and back-stabbing Isela did.
This goes back to the question of Jenny and Julian's intentions. It seems unlikely that Julian went to the trouble of donating sperm at the sperm bank if he didn't intend it to be used, e.g just to please Honoria or Fermin. And it certainly wouldn't have been for Maria D. So maybe he was coming around to asking Jenny...???
Marcia
Marcia
I noticed that they were repeating the same episode from Friday night. I was so looking forward to seeing what I saw in the advance which I will not mention I'll just wait until they show it and we can all see it together, in the meantime we get to see the same thing they showed Friday night. I enjoyed that part about Jerry and Susanna getting on Ivana's case, that was good. well anyhoos as reruns go, theres that one again.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 4, 2016 at 10:38:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 4, 2016 at 10:38:00 PM EST
In order for this to end next Monday as advertised, there will need to be another repeated episode at some point this week.
A week of reruns. Ok!
ITA, about Isela, I always knew she'd get her
Comeupance, and shes gettin it. Everyone on
Here will get theirs.but shes the only one I'd like To see bounce back from all of the dark manure That she wallowed in. And like max
Said MD has virtue, she'll forgive her.
ITA, about Isela, I always knew she'd get her
Comeupance, and shes gettin it. Everyone on
Here will get theirs.but shes the only one I'd like To see bounce back from all of the dark manure That she wallowed in. And like max
Said MD has virtue, she'll forgive her.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 4, 2016 at 11:06:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 4, 2016 at 11:06:00 PM EST
There are certain acts that are simply not forgivable and Isela's betrayal is one of them. I could never trust her again after anything like that. As pointed out above, she had multiple opportunities to escape from Hosefa, but didn't take them. She chose to boink Claudio instead.
As for Univision I'm really angry that they pulled this rerun thing on us tonight.
As for Univision I'm really angry that they pulled this rerun thing on us tonight.
After rewatching, Dan didn't incriminate himself in Julian's death when he threatened Jenny. She made quite a leap.
Despite promises to the contrary Ivana has consistently acted in her interest in pursuit of MD's child. She lies, cries, betrays and justifies it all not unlike Isela. Jerry is as much a fool as Orlando.
Despite promises to the contrary Ivana has consistently acted in her interest in pursuit of MD's child. She lies, cries, betrays and justifies it all not unlike Isela. Jerry is as much a fool as Orlando.
Tofie, Dan didn't incriminate himself, meaning he didn't say he did it, but he did say it was an accident. And in order for it to be an accident, MD didn't do it on purpose, which is what the defense is claiming, and what Jenny and Honoria thought. And for him to say it was an accident, he must have some inside knowledge about the shooting to know that.
I would not put it past him to lie in front of the judge. The only thing that can really clear this up would be for Ivana to come to her senses, show up, and tell the truth. She will end up roundly embarrassed if they ask why she hadn't come forth before.
In the US the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt is on the prosecution in a criminal case. The prosecution would have a hard time proving there was not an alternative version. Don't know Mexican or TN law but assume the burden not so high.
I didn't hear Josefa say she saw the murder, did I miss something? Her comments were about the type person MD is and the relationship she had with Julian. Anyway, Max could use Honoria to challenge the testimony by Josefa and that it was fabricated to support the prosecutors case.
Problem with Dan's vague comment is he could say he heard a rumor or it was conjecture. It doesn't put him at the scene as Josefa pointed out in her testimony. MD's story is Dan arrives, a struggle ensued, Dan tried to kill Julian, there was a struggle for a gun and the accident happened. That is what Max intended with Ivana's testimony, to place Dan in the room and corroborate MD's version.
I didn't hear Josefa say she saw the murder, did I miss something? Her comments were about the type person MD is and the relationship she had with Julian. Anyway, Max could use Honoria to challenge the testimony by Josefa and that it was fabricated to support the prosecutors case.
Problem with Dan's vague comment is he could say he heard a rumor or it was conjecture. It doesn't put him at the scene as Josefa pointed out in her testimony. MD's story is Dan arrives, a struggle ensued, Dan tried to kill Julian, there was a struggle for a gun and the accident happened. That is what Max intended with Ivana's testimony, to place Dan in the room and corroborate MD's version.
Tofie- The law in Mexico is that you are guilty until proven innocent, so the burden is on the defense to prove innocence, unlike here.
It's not in Ivana's best interests to show up, so she won't. She'll claim she "tried" to get there but like Isela, she's had months to make her statement and never did it. She won't now.
Ivana needs to go to jail with the rest of the Santibanez Gang.
Jenny is only trying to tell the truth because Daniel kicked her.
I think Maria Dolores will be sentenced to jail and Claudio will be the one to get her out.
Ivana needs to go to jail with the rest of the Santibanez Gang.
Jenny is only trying to tell the truth because Daniel kicked her.
I think Maria Dolores will be sentenced to jail and Claudio will be the one to get her out.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 11:52:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 11:52:00 AM EST
Vivi I assumed as much in Mexico and as a volunteer been involved with legal assistance in some southeast asian countries, stories of which enrage.
What I don't know is how close will the writers stick to Mexican law or the convenience of TN law where guilt or innocence is determined by a well timed shout from the cheap seats. That worked in Lo Imponderable to spring Martin.
What I don't know is how close will the writers stick to Mexican law or the convenience of TN law where guilt or innocence is determined by a well timed shout from the cheap seats. That worked in Lo Imponderable to spring Martin.
Tofie- I don't think this is this kind of tn, but I think they are also showing that Mexican law makers/keepers/enforcers, DON'T often abide by Mexican written law. It's more about the power of might, than the power of right.
Dan's vague comment only has to convince Jenny that MD didn't try to kill Julian. So skipping the court of law, let's go to the court of Jenny and Honoria. It will convince them and that's all she needed to change her opinion apparently.
yes cathyx it did just that, it is unfortunate it took Dan pushing his way in slobbering, threatening and hitting Jenny but it worked and agree once she speaks to Honoria, Honoria will completely flip on Josefa and Ursula to support MD not just refuse to testify against her. Josefa even said Claudio shoved Isela off the balcony and Honoria was right there. Every word Josefa uttered was a lie.
Like I said before, the ONLY two people who didn't believe MD's story about Dan were Honoria and Jenny. And that's simply because they didn't WANT to believe it. It never made any sense that MD would just up and shoot Julian, and they knew it. Jenny was just resentful that Julian loved MD and not her, and Honoria was just looking for a convenient scapegoat for her grief and guilt (about the gun). Dan's attack on Jenny just smacked them in the face with the truth and woke them up.
It shouldn't make sense to Jenny OR Honoria that Maria Dolores, in her wedding gown, would up and kill Julian on the way to her wedding to Max. They believed it because they wanted to believe it.
The only reason they are jumping off the villano train NOW is because the villanos are either threatening their personal safety (Jenny) or is outright lying about their loved ones (Honoria --Julian's image & Isela's fall).
Had Dan not attacked Jenny or Josefa not lied about Julian being Maria Dolores' lover, both Jenny & Honoria would've been quite content to let Maria Dolores go to jail. Out of sight, out of mind.
The only reason they are jumping off the villano train NOW is because the villanos are either threatening their personal safety (Jenny) or is outright lying about their loved ones (Honoria --Julian's image & Isela's fall).
Had Dan not attacked Jenny or Josefa not lied about Julian being Maria Dolores' lover, both Jenny & Honoria would've been quite content to let Maria Dolores go to jail. Out of sight, out of mind.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 2:25:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 2:25:00 PM EST
I started reading a recap of the next new
Episode. So whats going on yall? Was it removed? I want say what I read cuz it might
Not should have been on?!?! Did they show it in another part of the country and we didn't get it here in the southeast? tjust askin. They're doin some tricky stuff with this TN.
Episode. So whats going on yall? Was it removed? I want say what I read cuz it might
Not should have been on?!?! Did they show it in another part of the country and we didn't get it here in the southeast? tjust askin. They're doin some tricky stuff with this TN.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 4:30:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 4:30:00 PM EST
Nina, I removed it because I didn't know that they reran Friday's episode last night. I don't currently have a working TV in place.
Since Univision is getting post-bombed on FB about these insane reruns I can only hope the don't do this again in the future.
Since Univision is getting post-bombed on FB about these insane reruns I can only hope the don't do this again in the future.
Thank you UA. Lets hope they show the new
Episode tonight. Reruns are boring, ya already know whats comin. And I really don't want to see that sweet little baby boy scream
When sorry arce aldo kick his mom again.
The children in this show just can't catch a
Brake. Poor babies.
Episode tonight. Reruns are boring, ya already know whats comin. And I really don't want to see that sweet little baby boy scream
When sorry arce aldo kick his mom again.
The children in this show just can't catch a
Brake. Poor babies.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 5:20:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 5:20:00 PM EST
Nina- I actually started crying during that scene when the baby boy was crying seeing his mom get shouted at and hit by his dad. From the way it was filmed, you could tell the baby actor was not in the same room as the adult actors, and I was grateful for that, because kids that young are old enough to understand something bad is happening, but now old enough to know it's just pretend. The scene was very well done. I'm sure the little boy was really just crying because he was tired, or his mom had just walked away, and not because he was traumatized, but they made it successfully look that way.
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