Wednesday, May 18, 2016
Yago #12 Discussion page 05/17/2016
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There's something that I've been meaning to mention - Abel's stupid ponytail.
I noticed in a flashback last week that when he visited Omar in prison, the ponytail was brand new. It was barely an inch long. (I think we were definitely supposed to notice it.)
Wonder if Abel started growing that immediately after the murder/heist?
Wonder if he'll cut if off someday? (Or if it will be cut off for him.)
Symbolism! Of the dead guard? Of Abel's lost innocence? (Has he killed anyone since he shot the guard?)
Julie - I think Abel deserves an anvil just for the ponytail. It is not just a ponytail, it appears to be a braided and bleached mullet. Yikes!
Vivi in DC warned me that if it gets mentioned too much, we might start an entire discussion page of its wrongfulness.
Why is there no Yago tonight?
Soccer is on tonight, so no shows.
I don't think he has killed anyone since the guard but didn't he cut some fingers off of someone?
Or maybe I'm wrong, and what really traumatized him was betraying Omar. Maybe he planned to cut the tail when Omar got out of prison (I don't remember how long his sentence was, and then when Omar died, Abel was stuck with his poor fashion choice forever.
It looks like it's just pinned on, the rest of his hair just doesn't fit in with that nasty thing.
Not too sure about this nonela, spoiled by Hotel.
Yago will air on UniMas at 12 am.
That's what the Twitter handle is claiming and I'm not happy if this is true because this is a short novela and Univision should have aired Color right after Pasion y Poder and then switched with Tres Veces Ana.
We will see if this is true.
https://twitter.com/colorpasionusa/status/733081985808240641
However, I checked Direct Tv online and they have Yago airing at 12 am on UniMas starting Monday and 2 hours of Tres Veces Ana all next week.
Looks like tomorrow's episode of Yago is the last one airing in Prime Time.
Have the ratings for Yago been so bad that they feel justified to banish it to midnight to their sister channel?
If any show should've been yanked off and banished to UniMas it should've been Sueno de Amor.
Does Yago air on Hulu? Because I might have to break down and get a subscription.
I can see the ratings being bad. I wasn't going to watch based off of the commercials for it. Didn't look like my kind of show but of course now I'm addicted.
I have to say I'm excited for A Que No Me Dejas though. I've been waiting for it since I heard about it. It is one year old but at least it's a novela that hasn't been aired yet. We've been waiting for this one and ECDLP for over a year, we got so lucky they aired YNCELH.
I think Univison always intended this show to be filler until Tres Veces Ana was ready to air. Now Ana is ready and Hotel is done so Yago's filler purpose has been fulfilled.
I might not watch Ana at 9pm because of this move, or the new 10pm show either. I think I'm done for a while after tomorrow's airing of Yago. I might watch it on Hulu (and maybe Ana) but this Yago move might be a good thing because it will free up a whole chunk of time for me.
OMG. I can't believe they are banishing "Yago" to the midnight timeslot on UniMás. Univision does it to us again!
Here's a link I found on LatinTimes:
http://www.latintimes.com/univision-cancels-yago-moves-it-unimas-que-no-me-dejas-premieres-its-place-385718
Ratings are very low for all the current telenovelas on Univision and Telemundo. There really hasn't been a hit since 2014's Lo que la vida me robo which averaged around 4 million viewers a night. Last year, only Mi Corazon es tuyo and Hasta el fin del mundo averaged over 3 million viewers. Right now, nothing currently airing is even averaging 2 million viewers a week. (This year, Pasion y Poder & Muchacha italiana had weekly averages over 2 million viewers. Only two telenovela episdoes this year have gotten over 3 million viewers -- the finale of yo no creo en los hombres and the finale of Pasion y poder.)
(Sadly, Yago had a pretty good chance. it premiered at 2.6 million, but lost almost a million viewers by episode 2. Right now, it's averaging 1.6 million viewers, below both Un Camino hacia el destino and Hotel de los secretos which both occasionally peek over the 2 million mark on good nights.)
Still, they should have moved Yago to 10 pm on Univision, especially considering how much Telemundo's El Senor de los cielos has fallen off this year. If Tres Veces is a hit, it could have easily lifted Yago over El Senor in the 18-49 demo. Last night Yago got a 0.6 in that demo -- El Senor only got a 0.7 (its down 35 to 40 percent from last year -- and they already announced a fifth season -- lunacy).
The late night time slot on UniMas is easy enough to explain. Next month UniMas is showing a ton of soccer, almost every night in June because of the Copa America.
Also, don't be surprised if Sueno de amor moves to an afternoon slot next month to make room for Corazon que miente. Univision had success in that time slot last year with the same producer's La Sombra del pasado with the same leading man, and Corazon que miente is one of Televisa's experiments with leaner and shorter telenovelas, only lasting 70 episodes.
I just cked, & Yago is on Hulu,
I just got Hulu myself so I wouldn't miss Hotel.
I think I will start watching La esclava Blanca, so I will have to catch up. I don't think Hulu shows telemundo but it is on the Telemundo site.
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Times are a changing quickly: Two days ago it was announced that Univisión and Netflix are teaming up and that "Narcos" from Netflix would be appearing on Univisión as well as "Club de cuervos" on Unimás. Together Netflix and Univisión will be working on a production about "El Chapo" Guzmán.
I don't have the most current information about Spanish-language networks not owned by Univision or Telemundo, but when I last looked they weren't Nielsened and weren't in anything close to full distribution. Some of these may be popular in the areas they cover and the viewers aren't recognized by ratings services.
What I do remember from back when Nielsen had a separate ratings division for Spanish=language TV is that US Hispanics typically watched Univision and Telemundo Monday-Friday and then watched English-language TV on weekends (usually HBO, Showtime, or movies). There is a strong possibility that younger Hispanics watch more English-language programs now.
Both Univision and Telemundo should promote their programs to gringos who want to learn Spanish. Novelas are the best TV teaching tool for this.
Univision is very short-sighted not to move Yago to the 10 p.m. slot. It's a unique story, and I think it would've gained a bigger audience, especially among men. Goodness, Yago only had a two-week tryout.
I planned on checking out Ana for the 2-hour premiere, but day after day of 2 hours of triplets is way too much.
"Together Netflix and Univisión will be working on a production about "El Chapo" Guzmán. "
Brought to you by Sean Penn & Kate del Castillo. ja, ja
I can't understand why Hotel was a ratings disappointment in Mexico or why Yago would be here. We haven't had a good mystery novela in a long time and I thought these two would do well.
They should've tested Yago out in the 10pm slot for 2 weeks, if the ratings didn't improve, THEN move it to UniMas. Yago is a short show and would've been over with relatively soon anyway.
Yanking shows because they're not instant hits is why I stopped watching network television in the first place.
I don't know whether the recapping can continue after the relegation to midnight, but I thank you all for the efforts to date.
Chris in FL
I know this changes everything recapping-wise and it makes me particularly mad because, at long last, we managed to get a volunteer yesterday to take over Wednesdays, a terrific recapper called Kinomathematika. Our dear Julie started recapping Mondays this week, veteran Caray Caray recapper Jardinera was set to start alternating Fridays with me next week. Things were finally rolling and this happens! We need to send Teo to pistol-whip some people at Univision! I'm so mad right now but there isn't much I can do about this because I'm not in the US and I can't threaten to boycott a channel I don't watch to begin with. Here's what I can do though, I assure you that you will get your daily recaps (and/or summaries) of "Yago" for every single episode, even if I have to do them myself!
Truthfully, Pasion y Poder was boring until Montserrat got killed off and only then did things pick up. And that show was on for a good 6+ weeks before that happened.
I was planning on watching Tres Veces but if it is 2 hours a night I just don't know if I could keep up. I never can keep up with the 10pm shows.
The A Que No Me Dejas I would like to see because I really like Osvaldo Benavides. He was a high point for me in Robo. He doesn't go for the easy acting choice so many TN actors seem to fall into. I heard this was a good show. Anyone else have info?
I don't have Hulu or Netflix. I pay so much for cable that I've sworn off anything more. I know Hulu does show free episodes of some shows. I'll take a look.
I strongly believe that "Tres Veces" will NEVER ever measure up to the original with Lucero!
And yes, I agree that TVA will never surpass the original, even if the original was one of the slowest TN stories I ever watched. Even the double amnesia story and nilly-willy murder attempts they are introducing on TVA won't speed up the action. It would just turn it into a gigantic circus. Carla Estrada stretched the original upon which TVA is based to 100 episodes when there was only enough material for 70 (including musical number, lovable filler characters, etc.). TVA aims to be a 130+ episodes TN, how are they ever going to achieve that? Circus! :D
I've been disgusted with Univision before, for some very obnoxious time slot changes they've made over the years, but this is the first time I've seen them toss a TN-in-progress over to a sister network. That just takes the cake.
Next time you work out a schedule, Univision, try to stand behind it. At least pretend that you're proud of the programming you have. Entice people to watch. Show that you appreciate your viewers. Don't slap them in the face.
If there is a way to watch Yago online (and timely) for free, I would consider that. But I really don't want to pay for Hulu. I find it very frustrating to watch stuff online.
Un Gancho al Corazon was switched to the other network then back to daytime on Univision back in the day due to viewer protest. Nobody was happy about that because Telefutura (as it was then called) wasn't in all the Univision markets yet. It still may fall short.
The 7PM time slot airs at 6PM in the Central time zone which includes the important markets Chicago, Dallas, and Houston. That's why it's difficult to get a high rating at 7PM for any network. I was shocked that LSdP aired in that time slot because of its content; MIVAC sounded like it belonged there due to its tone and its cast; that one aired at 4:30PM in Mexico. LSdP should have aired at 9 or 10.
No network gives any program much of a chance to gain audience and that's ironic and stupid, as there is more competition now. Not to mention time-shifted viewing.
So, just like Teo was upset that Yago was keeping important info (the video) from his team, Teo is upset at Fidel for doing the same thing to Yago. I like Teo.
If the recapping team finds a way to move forward I will certainly tune in to read. If you all find it too difficult, I would not blame you a bit. I don't think I get Unimas with my limited cable, but my bedtime is 10:30 anyway.
I pay $7.99 per month for Hulu and only joined to be able to watch TN episodes (particularly LSdP) when I can't watch in real time. I was going to discontinue but now I will rethink that decision.
I can't believe I'm saying this but I think I'll even miss the rat-tail-mulleted BSC Abel.
Teo is in an extremely dangerous position. I was hoping Teo wouldn't kill him and also wondering why, with Teo on his knees and Abel pointing a gun, Katia didn't take Abel out? They couldn't hear the conversation and it only takes a split second to pull a trigger.
Thanks again!
I had the same thought as Carvivlie. Even if we assume that Katia has Jedi reflexes, she can't protect Teo if she's waiting for Abel to shoot first!
Taking out Abel would probably make a mess of Fidel's plan. On the other hand, Fidel's plan probably got a little messed up anyway when Damian showed up, right? I don't think Damian was part of the original plan.
Regarding Un Gancho al Corazón, I was part of the recapping team back then and while I remember it being switched to an afternoon time slot I don't recall switching it to another network. Judy was also a recapper for Gancho, maybe she remembers otherwise. I know that we decided to soldier on with the recaps in spite of the time change and I don't think that we missed a beat.
As for this sudden decision by Univision, I'm somewhat stunned. I haven't watched anything on UniMas lately, but I watched La Pola, India, and more recently, the first go round of La Viuda Negra on Telefutura which I believe is now UniMas. For those TNs, the CCs were generally more reliable than what we are now experiencing on Univision.
Carlos
Or maybe I'm thinking of Mujeres Asesinas, which they showed on Uni for a while and then quit before showing the full season. (I had been waiting for a particular episode staring Diana Bracho.) I think they moved that one to Telefutura/Unimas or maybe Galavision.
Not quite as rude as moving a telenovela, but still rude IMO.
Ambar didn't seem to believe her dad's reasons for having such a nice place.
Yay, some realism on "who's the daddy?" with Lucio actually getting a DNA test behind Sara's back. Too bad the printout of the results was too small for Viewerville to read. Oh well, Lucio said beforehand he'd love Matias anyway, he just wanted to know.
I'm loving Teo too. He doesn't say much, but his words are choice.
Grrrrh, what an insult not to try Yago at 10 now that it'll presumably have a better lead-in with Ana. Plus, A que no me dejas sounds more like an 8 p.m. TN to me.
-- Niecie: Thank you, darling! This is a short novela and a fast-paced story so your Yago recaps and summaries will be here waiting for you after every single episode (albeit with a slight delay), pase lo que pase ;)
-- UA: Thanks for sharing that link! So many TN temptations, so little time!
As regards the Patio's speculations about the munchkin's paternity, I'm pretty sure that, in the flashback scene, Lucio discovered Matías isn't his baby, because the way he hugged him and cried conveyed sadness rather than relief. That's the impression I got anyway.
Good night, amig@s! :)
Does anyone else have trouble with the sound? So annoying!!!!
There are really not many very good telenovelas on Univision at this time. The new one Las Tres Anas is coming on and I will preview it but don't know if I will like it. It's been done before I think with Lucero way back in the day. I really liked Lo que La Vida me Robo.
Yago is ok not as good as others I have seen. I like Evan . Hate that bad boy Abel with the rat tail.
Let's see if it gets better and the sound improves... Who has a problem with the sound? The It
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