Monday, August 08, 2016

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Silvana sin Lana, Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraíso, Señora Acero 3, & La Sombra de Helena: Week of August 8, 2016

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays at 3:00 PM and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 12-2PM—Sombra de Helena
• 8PM—Silvana Sin Lana
• 9PM—Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraíso
• 10PM—Señora Acero 3: La Coyote

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

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SILVIANA –LUNES

Well, this episode was a complete sitcom and didn’t do a thing for me, so this will be brief.

Manuel almost kisses Silvana, but the waiter arrives. Manuel jokes that the waiters here usually make you wait but this time…. way too prompt. They have a sweet conversation. They talk about the relationships between their children. He tells her she has the most beautiful mouth he’s ever seen.

Dominique, after some pressure from Stella, tells her that Poncho is in love with her.

Vicente keeps texting Majo, some of the texts suggestive. [OK, this is one of my new pet peeves – television shows that put plot points into texts shown on the screen. I can never see them without standing a foot from the TV. It just irritates me no end.]

Lucha clearly has a yen for Andrés and is apparently looking at his Facebook pictures that show him together with Majo. [At least I think that’s what she’s doing as I’m a non-Facebook person.]

Manuel asks Chivis if she weren’t married and if he weren’t in a relationship with Stella would she have accepted his kiss. She says she would have.

Jorge breaks up with Margarita, who doesn’t take it well.

Majo comes next door supposedly looking for Lupita, but also to find out if Lucha went to the event for poor people that Andrés said he was attending. She keeps waving her engagement ring under Lucha’s nose. They exchange insults.

We get one of those both sides of the duplex scenes in which Trini grills Chivis and Pedrito grills Manuel about both “miscreants” smelling like salsa verde and getting home late.

Miguel is very cheerful at breakfast and his children are suspicious. Vicente notices that he’s put on cologne. On the other side Silvana is also bubbling over and Majo is suspicious of how nice she looks to go to work.

Jorge and Angie are talking at school. He tells her he really wants to kiss her. She tells him they have to move slowly. Margarita approaches and Angie moves away.

Silvana has come to Manuel’s office in the morning. They look at each other longingly. He gives her a hanging basket of geraniums for her balcony. Stella walks in, and he lies, saying that a client gave Silvana the flowers.

After she leaves, Stella puts on her devious hat and tells Manuel that, while Silvana acts like she’s practically a nun, well… hinting at something… She says it’s probably a bad idea that Chivis work at the Fish Market. What if she gets involved with a client? After he brushes this off, she gets right up in his face saying: “You wouldn’t change me for someone like that, would you?” [Well, if you need to ask…}

Margarita has brought Jorge a sandwich. She tells him she doesn’t want him to start seeing someone else right away since they’re in the same school and all. Angie is watching the whole thing and looks like she might be ready to give him up because of her pity for Margarita.

Trini runs out of hot water with her hair full of shampoo. Rather than tough it out, she calls Benito, who comes right away. Majo arrives and starts to tease Trini about Benito.

Later Trini is grilling Majo about Vicente. She says that there’s no one in the world like Andrés and that Majo should be careful. She says a benefit of being her age is that her hormones are mostly turned off, but Majo…
 

Silvana

novelera - thank you for the recap. I'm almost caught up on watching episodes.

General comments, most likely already discussed here:

- I wanted to barf when Papichulo took Stella upstairs and they ... did the deed. Eeew. Really, dude? Now the door is open for her to fake a pregnancy in order to hold on to him.

- I loved it when Stella's roomie did the "Steeeelllllaaaaa" thing in the parking lot, first day Chivis was working at Manny's. Been channeling that Marlon Brando scene since this began. LOL

- Wasn't there some old TV show or movie where the two main characters came out on their respective balconies to talk? Maybe I'm making this up in my head.(?)

- Why isn't Trini working somewhere? Okay, I've got four episodes to go on getting catching up, but with her job skills she could at least be a WalMart greeter.

- Um, yeah, I don't think we'll be done with Chivis' husband for a while. It will be the telenovela writers' tool (pun intended) to keep our protags apart.


 

Silvana

Wow, novelera, you and I are definitely on the same page about last night's episode! You've done an admirable job getting all the, um, high points. And I loved your asides, especially the one about your new pet peeve. I too am so irritated when we're expected to read the characters' tiny text messages on our TV screen. I also enjoyed "Well, if you need to ask…" Stella continues to be like fingernails on the blackboard for me (hmmm...I my granddaughters would have no idea what that means).

Speaking of having no idea what something means, I'm still somewhat clueless about the geraniums. In Friday's episode, Chivis said something to Manuel about tastes changing, and not just in food. She then said something about geraniums and social class, but I didn't understand her then (and said so in my recap), and I'm sure Manuel's giving her geraniums last night relates to what she said then, but I'm not sure how.

Though I hate Margarita, I felt very uncomfortable last night watching her lose every shred of dignity pleading with Jorge not to break up with her.

Am I right that Trini brought her phone into the shower in order to call Don Benito? I hope she's ruined it. I found Don Benito's apparent embarrassment at seeing Trini in her bathrobe and showercap(?) rather ludicrous. Then again, their entire relationship could be described as ludicrous. I understand that he's impressed with her as an upper-class, reasonably attractive woman, and he's happy to have such a person in his life, but she treats him like a servant, or perhaps like a slave. Oh well, I guess I didn't sign on for realism or subtlety when I chose to watch this novela.
 

Silvana

Doris, although the time stamps are 11 minutes apart, I didn't see your posting until after I had posted mine. I definitely agree that Antonio José is almost certainly going to return and create problems. Or perhaps create problems even at a distance.

I don't think Manuel would marry Stella simply because she claimed to be pregnant, especially now that he has strong feelings for Chivis. BTW, my impression is that Manuel and Stella have been having sex for quite a while. As far as I can tell, that's what attracts him to her, but it clearly hasn't been enough to make him want to marry her.
 

Silvana. Excellent succinct recap, novelera. Absolutely right about last night's episode being a total sitcom! In fact, if something drastic doesn't happen soon, I would say that this is likely to be a very short novela! And I agree with both you and Juanita that showing texts on screen is very irritating. At the very least there should be an off screen voice reading them aloud. About that running out of hot water with shampoo in the hair. This is Miami, right? It's not as if Trini is going to succumb to hypothermia because she has to rinse with cold water once. But, boy, Majo and Trini really understand each other. And Juanita: excellent remarks about the geraniums. There probably were some references to a past episode or double meanings there. In fact, in last night's episode I think a number of subtle double meanings slipped right by me--the geraniums, the conversation at the taco truck, Vicente's teasing of his father, etc. I'm not about to go back over the episode slowly on the Telemundo site to see if I can figure them out, though. :)
 

Silvana. In a previous episode Dominique suggested to Stella that she might get pregnant to get Manuel to marry her, and she said that she wasn't ready to get pregnant and besides didn't want to spoil her figure with a pregnancy.
 

SILVANA

Yes, Stella and Mañuel definitely have a sexual relationship. Remember the Flashdance-from-Heck routine? She's a maaaaniac, maaaaaniac ...
 

Silvana
You make great points as always, SpanProf. Loved your remark about Trini's not going to succumb to hypothermia because she has to rinse her hair this one time with cold water--in Miami. And yes, Majo and Trini really understand each other. I think at one time or another, each has made an explicit statement about that.

I admire your restraint in not going back over previous episodes to figure out what you may have missed. Normally, I feel that way, too, but I'm afraid I've become obsessed with the geraniums, perhaps because I recapped Friday's episode and wrestled unsuccessfully with the passage where Chivis admits to Manuel that she used to think that geraniums were ordinario. She says that she liked them, but not to show them but rather para tenerlos escondiditos por ahí. I'm assuming that escondiditos has something to do with hiding, though neither WordReference.com nor the RAE recognize it as a word. She then says to Manuel, Imagínate, a mí hasta las flores, me parecían como de estrato social. All this is an example she uses to illustrate how tastes change. In light of last night's episode, where Manuel gives her geraniums for her balcony, I assume that on Friday she was saying that she used to turn her nose up at geraniums as being lower class, but not now. And even now I don't really understand para tenerlos escondiditos por ahí.

¡Ya basta!
 

Silvana

Juanita - Stella can still give us a run for that fake pregnancy thing if the writers decide to do so.

Yes, that comment Dominique made about her getting pregnant is why I am cringing.

Ugh... that Flash Dance scene was awful. Too bad we cannot un-see it!

I'll try to remember to ask my (Adult Educ.) English conversation student about geraniums and social class tomorrow, when we have our tutoring session. She is from Mexico City and might know.
 

Silvana

thanks Juanita for digging out the info on geraniums, I too was curious about that, and from what you put together I think I get it, (although I'm the last person you should ever ask about spanish)

I'm assuming escondiditos are their little hiding places, and how Chivas was comparing social classes to how she viewed flowers with geraniums at the bottom, ordinario, not really brought out in the open and given the same attention as other flowers, is how she used to see things by class, and not by what they actually were.


btw on the nickname thingy, Vicenta in "Senora Acero" is being called Chenta.

 

Silvana

deb, I LOVE your explanation of the geraniums! You've taken these pieces I couldn't put together and made terrific sense of them. ¡Muchísimas gracias!
 

Silvana

I finally figured out who Manuel papichulo reminds me of ---- Luke from Glmore Girls. ~sighs~. 😎
Mystery solved.
 

Silvana

Chivis and Manuel are so adorable together, but it does bother me a bit that he's not hiding how much he likes her while still being with Stella. I mean, if I were Chivis that would be really unattractive to me, and I would think he's a bit of a womanizer.

Vicente is getting a little stalkerish with how much he's texting/calling Majo. I can't believe he was so forward about wanting to be her lover and asking her what if Andres wasn't good in bed. Ok, actually, yes I can believe it.

I interpreted escondidito as escondido (hidden/secret) + the suffix -ito (little). Suffixes are so common in Spanish but I don't think many dictionaries include the forms in their main entries.
 

Silvana

I'll have a recap of tonight's episode posted sometime tomorrow morning.
 

SILVANA

I did feel compassion for poor margarita, much as she has annoyed me in the past. Breaking up with your first serious boyfriend as a teenager is so so horrible. Obviously, she didn't do herself any favours by acting like a jealous wreck, but Jorge clearly did have the hots for Angie from the moment they met.
 

Silvana. The Jennifer situation is becoming more and more outrageous and grotesque. Is it even funny? 2 ex-husbands in prison? Compulsive binge eating? Stella is being remarkably sweet and patient with Jennifer and her children. Viewerville hopes that even when she doesn't end up with Manuel that she'll have a happy ending anyway.

 

SILVANA SIN LANA - MARTES - Parte 1 de 3

The episode opens at the Fish Market. [Fast Forward]

At Don Benito's bakery, Margarita comes upon a basket of laundry. DB's young assistant whose name escapes me tells her it's the laundry that Trini has brought to be washed in DB's washing machine. Margarita offers to help him by bringing the basket to the washing machine and putting it in.

The next thing we see is Angie and Trini looking at a basket of washed, dried, and ruined clothes. Margarita apparently put chlorine (cloro) in the wash, resulting in clothes being stained and/or losing their color (destiñendo). Her clothes for school are now an ugly gray. Angie goes to the bakery and confronts Margarita. The two girls get into a shouting match. DB enters the bakery and asks what's going on. Angie just came for a visit, says Margarita. Angie tells DB that Margarita discolored the laundry.

Vicente looks through the spy hole, sees Majo, takes a selfie, sends it to her, and watches her reaction. He then sends a second selfie, this time talking about her being in bed. Majo is unnerved. Vicente takes a third message, this one talking about her sitting up (which is what she is doing). She's now quite freaked. Angie comes into the bedroom and tells Majo about Margarita's ruining the clothes. Don't worry, we'll buy you some new clothes, says Majo. Angie points out that there's no money. Majo dismisses this as unimportant (a Mexican slang use of equis) and changes the subject to Vicente's texts that give the impression he can see what she's doing. Angie mentions that Jorge too at times seemed to know what she (Angie) was doing. As if he was spying.

Back at the bakery, Don Benito confronts Margarita. Did she have something to do with the ruined clothes? Eventually, she admits that she did. I ruined her blouses, but she ruined my relationship with Jorge (Yo le eché a perder las blusas, pero ella me echó a perder mi noviazgo). His comforting a tearful Margarita is interrupted by a phone call from Trini, asking him to go shopping with him. He says he'll come right away. Margarita isn't pleased.

At the supermarket, DB advises Trini not to buy expensive cheeses or she won't have enough for the rest of her purchases. She thanks him and calls him her guardian angel. He then tells her about the friction between Margarita and Angie, including Margarita's asking him to keep his distance from Trini's family. Trini suddenly is gasping for air, though apparently this doesn't last.

Chivis is sorting laundry at home when there's a knock at the door. It's her ex-friend Cata, who had been mean to her several days earlier when Chivis came in her fish market van to the country club. Chivis tells her that what she has now she has gotten on her own, there's no man in the house. Cata asks whether she knows anything about Antonio José. He has called a couple of times, responds Chivis, but I don't know where he is, when he'll return, or whether he'll come. Cata asks Chivis' forgiveness for the way she acted at the country club. Chivis forgives her. Cata then tells her that her daughter is getting married, and her husband-to-be is a pecetariano, someone who eats only fish, not meat. "I was thinking that I could tell the people in charge of the banquet that they should buy all their fish from you" (Estaba pensando que le podía decir a la gente que lleva al banquete que te compren todo el pescado). She adds that there will be 500 guests at the banquet! "One call from me and the business is yours. What do you think?" Chivis is ecstatic.
 

SILVANA SIN LANA - MARTES - Parte 2 de 3

Trini returns home from shopping while Cata is still talking with Chivis. Don Benito is carrying in her shopping bags. Trini catches sight of Cata and is excited to see someone from her old environment. They greet each other warmly. Trini then turns to Don Benito and, in a very haughty voice, tells him to bring in the bags and later she'll give him a tip. He does so and leaves. Cata asks who he is, and Trini replies, "Oh, he's just the neighborhood baker. He helps me with my shopping." [For me, this time Trini has gone too far.]

Jorge tells Lucha that he has broken up with Margarita, and he feels much relieved. Lucha tells him she's happy for him but advises him again that he should stay away from Angie. "She's not for you, you'll suffer because of her." Jorge says "You speak as if it happened to you." [Perceptive boy, Jorge.] Lucha of course denies this. After Lucha leaves his room, Jorge gets a text message from Angie. She's happy. He lets her know he, too, is happy, and that he'll dream of her that night. He goes to the spyhole, takes out the clothes hook blocking it, and starts to spy. Suddenly Pedrito enters and jumps on top of him. He wants to see what Jorge is looking at. Jorge claims that the clothes hook fell out, that's all. Pedrito isn't buying this. "I saw you! You were looking at the neighbors stark naked (Estabas viendo a las vecinas en cueros)!

Meanwhile, downstairs, a very excited Chivis has come to tell Manuel the splendid news about the wedding banquet. "I'm going to make a lot of money. You and I are going to make a lot of money. Since yesterday, only good things have happened to me. I'm very, very happy!" [Uh oh, Viewerville knows what that means.] Manuel gives her a hug and tells her how happy he is. Just then, of course, Pedrito comes down the stairs announcing that Jorge is looking through a little hole at the neighbors undressed (a las vecinas desnudas). Oops. He stops in mid-sentence as he sees Chivis. He tries to claim that he and Jorge are just playing a game, that he's just kidding. His father is having none of that and demands that Pedrito tell him the truth. Pedrito pleads with Chivis not to scold Jorge. Manuel says that Pedrito should tell Jorge to come downstairs at once.

The scene shifts to Stella's house. Dominique has just prepared croquettes that he boasts are rich enough to bring on a heart attack. Stella tells him that when she goes to live with Manuel, she'll have him (Dominique) as their chef (te voy a llevar de cocinero). Poncho comes down the stairs. He says he's not going out that night with his novia. "We have a very modern relationship. We're both independent, we give each other space." Oops. "Moreover, in love, one shouldn't cling like a blood-sucking tick" (En el amor, uno no debe de aferrarse como garrapata). Double Oops. There's a knock at the door. Poncho opens it to sounds of a crying baby and background music from "The Ride of the Valkyries." Jennifer has arrived with her three children. She's been booted out of her house for non-payment of rent, and she has nowhere else to go. She tells him that she knows "her Alfonsito" is incapable of leaving them in the street.

Pedrito comes back into Jorge's room and begs his forgiveness. He didn't know that Chivis was here when he started to tell their father what Jorge had done. Jorge is very upset. Well, says Pedrito, you shouldn't have been looking at the naked girls. You did something very bad. No, says Jorge, what is very bad is to rat on your brothers. Pedrito tells him their father wants him to come downstairs.
 

SILVANA SIN LANA - MARTES - Parte 3 de 3

Andrés drives up just as Lucha is about to go into her house. He calls to her several times before she stops. He asks her why she didn't go on the class trip and tells her not going is serious, like missing an exam. She finally tells him that she's fed up with the way his novia is behaving toward her. He advises her to ignore Majo, she's very insecure. Lucha continues describing all the annoying things Majo does. Andrés asks whether that's why Lucha took him off her Facebook page, and why she didn't go on the trip. Lucha says yes. She finally tells him that she doesn't want him to get married, that Majo isn't the woman for him. "She's very immature, I don't see her in love, I see her as a happy girl playing with a fashionable toy" (juguete de moda). Andrés acknowledges that Majo is infantíl, but he feels that she cares for him deeply. Majo has been watching their conversation from a distance. Now she approaches and asks whether she's interrupting something.

At Stella's, Poncho tries to explain to Jennifer that this is a small house and it's not his, he just rents a room. Jennifer says it's just for two days. Stella tells her she knows Poncho wouldn't want his novia out on the street, and so she can stay. Poncho and Dominique exchange horrified looks.

An enraged Manuel confronts Jorge. Jorge tries to make excuses. Manuel tells him he doesn't care whether Jorge simply found the hole, what he cares about is that he used it to spy on his neighbors. "I raised you to be honorable, to behave with dignity, to be a gentleman." Chivis says she thinks she should leave. She tells Jorge "I had thought you were an honest, upright young man" (un muchacho íntegro). She says she appreciates what he has done for Angie, but she wants him and his brothers to have nothing more to do with her daughters, and not to come to her house.

Chivis then summons everyone but Lupita to meet with her. She tells them that Jorge has been spying on them. From now on, neither Jorge nor Vicente may set foot in this house. Angie at first claims that Jorge would never do such a thing. When Chivis tells her that he confessed, Angie is appalled. Majo realizes that Vicente, too, has probably spied, and that he has seen her naked...and without her makeup on! Trini wonders whether they've been spying on her in her room as well. [No comment.]

Manuel and Jorge have a long talk. Manuel impresses on Jorge the seriousness of what he did. He also says that the two of them (he and Jorge) need to try to come up with a solution to this situation.

Poncho tries to discourage Jennifer. He tells her he snores, he walks in his sleep, he's almost epileptic. She replies that he's perfect, the man of her dreams. [Fast forward]

Manuel and Chivis talk in his office. He tells her he has spoken to both Jorge and Vicente, and they're both very sorry for what they did. He says they're good boys, but they're adolescents, and adolescents do silly things (tonterías). Chivis asks Manuel whether he thinks that spying on her daughters is just a tontería. He agrees that it's more serious. But Jorge is a good boy, and he's deeply in love with Angie. Chivis tells him that at this point, she doesn't care about his sons' feelings but rather their actions. If it were up to her, she'd move from the house right away. He replies that the worst thing she could do would be to go away. He claims that the many good things about being neighbors outweigh the hole in the wall. He says his sons want to apologize, and so does he. He doesn't want to lose the little that she and he have been able to share. She replies, "I understand, but I don't know what to say. Everything is all mixed up. I think that it would be best if we didn't continue to work together."
 

Silvana

Sorry that this recap was so late. Real and Unreal Life kept intruding as I was trying to write.
 

Silvana

SpanProf, I agree that Stella is, or seems to be, very sweet with Jennifer et al. However, I think she has an ulterior motive. (I think she almost always has an ulterior motive.) Dominique has told her that Poncho is in love with her (Stella). I think Stella thinks that having Jennifer around will keep Poncho occupied and distracted from his love for Stella.
 

Silvana. Excellent and very complete recap, Juanita. I love all your "Oops!" It was very rotten of Margarita to wreck Angie's clothing! I was glad that Cata did the decent thing and gave Chivis the big seafood order. And yep, the way Trini treats don Benito when Cata is there is finally going too far. I hope Chivis doesn't stop working with Manuel, wrecking herself financially because of what Jorge and Vicente did. But it's probably just as well that Jorge was discovered, though, and Manuel could express his outrage and disappointment, so that Jorge can understand just how serious his misbehavior is. And ulterior motive or not, Stella does the decent thing in being kind to Jennifer and her children.
 

Silvana

Terrific recap, Juanita! Loved all your clever asides, especially Trini wondering if the adolescents were peeking at her [no comment]. Indeed.

OK, so Jennifer is a bridge too far for me. Each episode gets more and more like what I’ve always had a hard time with in the Univisión comedies – humor too broad for my taste, horrible caricatures of homely and/or fat people, etc. I'm surprised they didn't include the ultimate cliché and have Dominique slip on one of the banana peels Jennifer left on the counter.

I think Chivis is over-reacting, ready to give up a source of income for her four children [notice I said four] because of what Jorge did. And no one let Jorge explain that he never really saw anyone unclothed.

And here are the characters I can barely tolerate when they’re on screen: Jennifer, Stella, Lucha, Majo, Margarita, Trinidad and, most of the time, Vicente. Vicente is handsome and amusing, but I can’t see how they’re going to get around his snarky, womanizing ways in order for him to end up with Majo.

I’m teetering on the edge right now, saying that this is another hour of my life I’ll never get back. I still have Sin Senos and La Coyote resting on my DVR and will try to catch up at least one of them this weekend. Of course, watching the Olympics has made time spent on Silvana seem even less worthwhile.

I’ll put up some bullet points tonight, but this Thursday is another book club. I am in two. One meets the second Thursday and the other the last Thursday.
 

Silvana

thanks Juanita!

I thought Jorge patched the hole a while back, what?

after offering Jennifer a place to stay, I thought for sure Stella would find an excuse to stay with Manuel for two days.

when the girls went up to take care of the hole, was MaJo kind of posing in front of it as if she was naked? (I kind of like her, she is a real character)

 

Sin Senos

this is by far my favorite of the three, I would recommend that everyone take a look, you don't have to start at the beginning, the story is very simple, good guys verses bad guys, and it's obvious who is who, what makes this this story so rico is how it's being written and produced, filmed on location, love the accents, the lines usually softly spoken carry so much that is left unsaid, the comradery among the good people, and then there is Catherine Siachoque (Hilda) who is really knocking this unique role for her out of the park, outstanding job by all.

 

Senora Acero

for me, Daniel (Luis Ernesto Franco) crossed the line last night by losing it and killing a bad guy in his jail cell, covering it up, then running home to mommy to confess with tears in his eyes, he is not worthy of Vincenta who already has a wonderful novio, but then again she killed for the first time last night.

 

Silvana

Many thanks, novelera, for your enthusiastic response and interesting comments. I agree completely with your thoughts about Jennifer. I don't know who the writers think they are appealing to, but it sure isn't me. [Political comment thought but suppressed here :-) ] Indeed, I'd also be happy to dispense with the entire subplot involving Poncho and Dominique.

I strongly hope you'll stay with this novela. It's more fun when there are more people commenting and recapping. And I really do enjoy Carlos Ponce.
 

Silvana

deb, I too thought that the spyhole had been patched. In retrospect, I think the clothes hook had been put back, but nothing more permanent had been done to make it unmoveable.

I'm afraid none of the trailers or other brief glimpses of Sin Senos appealed to me at all. What you say sounds more appealing, but at this point I think I'll stay with Silvana. Señora Acero appealed to me more, but not enough to move to the 10 pm time slot. And frankly, I'm also enjoying not having to deal with lots of ugly violence.
 

Silvana

Juanita - no apologies needed for the "late" (really no so late, IMO) recap. It is great and I thank you!

Re: Silvana and the geraniums -

I asked my ESL conversation student about this. She had no clue. But she did say that everyone grows geraniums in Mexico because they are so easy to grow down there. They're especially popular with the working class because of that. But she could not think of a social class/status thing about it.

However ,,,, while Gabi and I chewed on this today, what we came up with is this: Silvana and her Mansion/Country Club crowd can afford either gardeners or landscape maintenance crews, so they tend to have more exotic plantings in their yards, instead of run-of-the-mill geraniums. It is a way of showing that you can afford more than just geraniums, and since everyone has them, you can afford to do something different and a bit more exotic.

What came to my mind are forsythia bushes. Back in the day, everyone had them in their yard. They're easy to grow, break a branch of, stick it in the ground, and it will root and grow. Yet I never ever see them in yards of McMansions.

Hope this helps.

 

Silvana

Thanks very much, doris, for following up on this. The explanation that you and your ESL conversation student came up with makes a lot of sense!
 

Silvana

I also do not like the cheap laughs at Jennifer's expense. When are TN writers going to stop with the body-shaming? I feel sorry for the actors who play those parts.

I felt bad for Margarita for about a second but she's still being a jerk. Maybe she can date Juanito (poor him).

Trini makes me laugh with how over the top she is. Don Benito needs to stand up to her though.

LOL at Majo seeming to be just as angry about Vicente possibly seeing her without makeup as seeing her without clothes. At least in the dinner scene, Vicente seemed to be growing up a tiny bit. He took responsibility for not plugging the hole right away. (I do remember Jorge using putty to fix it, but I don't remember seeing who took the hook out after that.)
 

SILVANA

I completely hate the 'haha aren't fat chicks and the fact that they still want relationships totally hilarious' Jennifer plot. Not funny. Neither is the stereotypicall-rendered 'gay friend' Dominique. I'm so over everyone in that house, apart from the crying baby who seems to be aware of what's going on!

Thought Chivis was a little hasty in suggesting that she and M dissolve their business relationship because his boys were peeping at the girls. It WAS an unsavoury storyline, but it was relatively short-lived and Mañuel knew ZERO about it. Maybe she's looking for an excuse to not be in his company all day long, after their almost-kiss...? Cold feet?
If I was Angie I'd want nothing to do with Jorge after that. And Vicente is crossing the line into 'creeper' territory for me.

 

SILVANA – MIÉRCOLES

Silvana quitting her job at the Fish Market was, of course, a red herring. The best scene tonight was his talking her out of leaving. He tells her to get to work, gives her his password and a list of the products sold there so she can work on an order with his computer.

At school Angie refuses to listen to Jorge’s explanations and says she can never trust him again.

La muy estupida Trinidad is looking around her room for a spy hole. [Her room is pretty nice. I’ve seen this before in telenovelas. Someone moves into a dismal apartment or house for some reason or other. They look around sadly. A few episodes later the place looks terrific with nice furniture and paintings on the wall.] She calls Benito to help her examine the room, insults the whole neighborhood and his granddaughter. He is offended [finally] and leaves.

Margarita notices Jorge being downcast. She’s telling some friend SHE broke up with him. She tries wanting to be his friend and to get him to tell her what’s up. Doesn’t work.

Andrés talks with Lucha at the college. They talk about engagements and marriage. She says she doesn’t want to be tied down. He tells her he knows she doesn’t like Majo as his fiancée, and asks her if she knows something about Majo she isn’t telling him. She just walks off.

Manuel tells Jorge he has to offer to “remodel” the girls’ room next door and to use his own allowance to pay for things.

We see that Stella’s house is a disaster and Jennifer makes no effort to control her children. Stella “graciously” gives up her room there and arrives on Manuel’s doorstep without even calling first. She stresses to him how much she feels for the “poor thing” and her three children.

We get a good mother-daughter scene of Chivis consoling Angie about what happened with Jorge. We haven’t seen much of the littlest one lately.

Jennifer tries to sneak into Poncho’s bed but gets the wrong room. We get a totally ridiculous scene of Dominique becoming hysterical.

Majo and Vicente are texting, having lots of fun. She sends him a text about his being a pervert, but accidentally sends it to Andrés instead.

Chivis comes out to the balcony to water the geranium. Stella is not the one she hopes to see. Stella proceeds to spin a bunch of lies about sleeping with Manuel, his snoring, his begging her to marry him.

The next morning Stella sings in the shower while the whole rest of the family is ready to burst because they haven’t gotten in the bathroom yet.

Andrés comes to see Majo and is quite upset about her vulgar text. He asks her if she’s being unfaithful to him.
 

Silvana

Terrific recap, novelera! It's concise but complete, and it even included a couple of things that I missed when I watched the episode.

I agree with all your judgments. The best scene was indeed the one between Manuel and Chivis where he persuades her not to quit. Perhaps the worst one was the absurd scene where Jennifer goes into the wrong room and Dominique goes ballistic.

Yes, Trini's room did seem quite attractive. I've been noticing this also about the downstairs rooms.

I'm glad Stella is being so inconsiderate about the bathroom. The more the kids dislike her, the better, IMHO.

All throughout the scene where Majo was texting both guys I kept waiting for her to do exactly what she wound up doing: sending a message to the wrong one. I was a little surprised that Andrés was as upset and suspicious as he (justifiably) was. He's been so infuriatingly blind and forgiving about her throughout the entire novela. I guess some of Lucha's remarks are having an effect.

I was glad to see Don Benito finally offended by Trini's remarks. My guess is that he won't hold what she said against her for long, though he should, especially since this is hardly the first time she has said and done offensive things [e.g., the scene with Cata in the previous episode]

One scene that made me nervous occurred early in the episode when Stella comes into Manuel's office and finds Chivis there instead of Manuel. Chivis clearly doesn't want to discuss business with Stella, and she (Chivis) finally leaves, but she doesn't turn the computer off first. Stella may not know much about how to use a computer, but it would take very little to screw up the records.
 

Silvana. Excellent recap, novelera. Even when you say you're just going to make a few remarks, you always come up with something both complete and witty. Excellent observations on the change in the duplex apartment surroundings. The garage sales in Miami must be incredible! Also good on d. Benito who [finally] leaves after a few insults too many from Trini. Yep, it was a red herring, but I'm so glad that Chivis didn't quit. Juanita was so right! Stella did use Jennifer and the kids' taking shelter with her as an excuse to move in with Manuel. I thought the line at the bathroom door in the morning was hilarious--as was Manuel's quickly covering Stella up as she exited. I guess you could call this clean bathroom humor. :) Could Andrés be looking for excuses to break with MJ? And she certainly seems to have more fun with and be more compatible with Vicente.
 

Silvana. Juanita: Yep, very worrisome about ways Stella could wreck Chivis' orders. Well observed! Hope Chivis double checks everything!
 

Silvana

Majo and Vicente definitely belong together. The way she wanted him to see her arriving home, and asking what he actually saw through the hole.. then him showing her his abs and calling her novia. They are both so immature but I find it hilarious.

I'm still trying to find a good translation for the text she accidently sent to Andres. Y qué querías ver, pervertido? Te hubiera gustado verme todo el chicharrón destapado? And what did you want to see, pervert? Would you have liked to see me ___? I only know chicharrón as pork rind, so there's obviously another meaning. Destapado is uncovered so maybe it just means completely naked?

Does Jennifer have a different accent from everyone else? It sounds like she doesn't pronounce the final -s on words. Is she supposed to be from the Caribbean?
 

SILVANA

Thank you for the great recap, novelera! You covered it all in a concise manner. I loved that scene with Chivis and Angelita, too.
I just knew Majo was going to send the wrong text to (gah)BabyBoo. That one was so predictable.
Trini grates on my nerves. I want Granny Clampett to get hold of Trini and teach her a thing or two about real life. :-p. ��
 

Silvana

J, Jennifer sounds like a Miami Cuban to me.

Doris: Granny Clampett, yes!!
 

Thanks novelera! Cuba was my first guess.
 

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