Caray, Caray!

Thank you so much UA.

What a contrast

"She was furious and went off like a cherry bomb"

"..of the soulless eyes and blood-red lips"

Juan and Mark looked way out of their league with El Coyote

Why ruin Sonia trying to pair her with Leon?

Of course nothing can ever be Luciana's fault. She's perfect

Come on, let the kids screw already.

I can't get past Gutierrez's clown cop costume

 

Urban, marvelous as always. A delightful read from start to finish. The screen shots were excellent.

Along with the excellent quotes tofie mentioned, "Brian met with Lillian in a restaurant but failed to extricate himself from her grasp…She has him over a social barrel and knows it", "his ended without any macho posturing [for a change]" and "No lovey-dovey action, just longing looks. [We've had enough]" were among my very favorites.

"He made an evil grin and... this is the same one who tried to sell Luciana as merchandise 14 years ago". UA, thank you for this very important piece of information. I hadn’t recognized El Coyote, but I should have remembered that wolfish face and countenance. Luci seems rather like a lamb awaiting slaughter. Brian is right out view and now, an equally vile nemesis,El Coyote is also hovering on the perimeter of discovery.

I'm a bit surprised (but pleased)Marta cancelled her date with Brian. While this is just delaying the inevitable discovery of what he did, he is now going to be beholden even more to Lili and will need to learn to smile and dance to whatever tune she chooses to play for him."DisGracie looked at her through her goat eyes and admitted it, saying there wasn't a single thing she could do about it.

I don't want Luci and Miguel to sleep together if she does end up with David. Miguel is besotted enough and I fear if they are intimate, he will be even more heartbroken if they do not end up together. I hope the yet to be introduced new character will be a love interest for him. Perhaps she will have a friend for the hapless Leon? And yes, tofie, I do not see Sonia and Leon as a love match either. Can we hope there will be someone for our fabulous third banana Sonia??

UA, this was fantastic. Thank you, thank you.

Diana
 

I was trying to say "DisGracie looked at her through her goat eyes and admitted it, saying there wasn't a single thing she could do about it" portends very evil things to come, doesn't it??

Diana

 

Diana, if Luciana was wobbly about Miguel I'd say don't "San Francisco" but Luciana is more than ready. It's possible after they "San Francisco" she will be the one hurt if Miguel wanted to "San Francisco" another.
 

Thanks, guys. This was the quick and dirty version because I was hoping to go out last night but ended up staying home with a sore left knee after shopping.

I went back to the first week to check because I had to confirm that this guy was El Coyote -- another good reason to do screen shots! He's obviously doing very well in terms of dinero, but here's someone else Luciana should recognize. How do you forget anyone like this?

Tofie, You're right in saying that Juan and Mark are completely out of their depth with him. Good. I couldn't figure out whether they realized that but they definitely looked scared. Even better. My main concern as I wrote this is that Juan is looking to deport Luciana as soon as her visitor's visa is up and he may try to get rid of her by getting this guy to do it.

More later.


 

"My main concern as I wrote this is that Juan is looking to deport Luciana as soon as her visitor's visa is up and he may try to get rid of her by getting this guy to do it".

tofie, yes, Juan and Mark are over their heads. And I agree with your comment above UA. However, my fear is El Coyote "getting rid of her" will mean he takes Luci prisoner. He liked her pluck and courage when she was a child. He will not be able to contain his salivating when he sees she is even feistier. And of course, she is downright gorgeous to boot. Ack. That thought alone makes my skin crawl.

Diana
 

"Soulless eyes and blood-red lips." Well played, UA. Y'know the thing about Graciela, she's got lifeless eyes, gray eyes...like a doll's eyes...

Ahem.

Bringing back the coyote from early in the show does make me wonder if this means Gutierrez either gets a pass or at least manages to avoid the worst of his role in Marcos and Luciana's deportation coming out. Or, conversely, if he's the reason it comes out in the first place. That said, next to Graciela and Juan El Coyote is suddenly Villain #3. (Sorry, Lilian. As pretty as you are, right now you're just a rich bitch with jealousy issues. Basically, Perla at 50.) Mark the gringo speaking even worse accented English than Gutierrez, let alone Juan, just adds to the hilarity.

Leon asking Sonia out in and of itself wasn't that great, but Carito's "Wait...what?" face after Sonia accepted utterly saved it. Since Carito's still a candidate for redemption, though...could Sonia be the spoiler for her and Leon? It'd be weird, but this is a Televisa novela we're talking about here.

And on a superficial note: while Luciana was running around all day in her Daisy Dukes and bustier under an open shirt, I couldn't help wondering if Irina Baeva did something to her face. She looked different than earlier in the show. Then again, Cesar looked decidedly less nebbish and more silver fox-y in this ep too...and Fernanda looked older than Carito and Perla, like Nina from Pasion y poder in reverse.
 

Since disposing of her virginity would lessen her appeal to El Coyote it would be a good idea to do this now. However, we can't be sure how long it will take for her to know he's in the vicinity. But, there is another concern which is the possibility that he will want revenge for her getting away from him earlier. I'm trying to remember whether she ever actually hit him or kicked him in the bazanzas when she was a kid...
 

Thank you, Urban.

I finally got to see Mark..Creepy dude. geez Louise..what did Soosan ever see in him? He's supposed to be the gringo?? With that terrible ENglish ? He and Juan looked as if they were terrified of EL COyote who liked !Ike he might eat them for breakfast.

I did not recognize El Coyote as one and the same who Marcos and LUCi ran from. I never thought about the possibility that JUan might have him kidnap her. If so, could wobbly personality Brian be redeemed by helping to rescue her?


DisGracie looks like a pretty, porcelain doll, but her eyes remind me of my daughter's Siberian husky...But gray instead of blue. I once read a novel that described that color eye as "the co!Or of spit." Ew. Now, I am going to google"goat eyes."

SO, do you think that Miguel and LUCI are going to San francisco? I don't. I think that the writers are saving LUci and her innocence for Dave . Ah..deflowering..The big prize. Dave, you may have already won the Publishers Clearing HOuse of virginity.

I think that Sonia's role is to make Carito jealous. I think that she will end up with Leon.

Tano....Comb you hair, dude...Or let it grow to your shoulders.... choose one.
 

I've grown weary of perpetual persecution and not looking forward to El Coyote stalking Luciana and Miguel and David elbowing each other out of the way to save her. Now, if our fair skin, fair eyed, college educated, worshiped hothead can infiltrate a sex trafficking ring to save the unfortunate, I'd vote Luciana for sheriff.
 

Question..DisGRacie said to Juan that be failed to "capture her sister." So..hmmm....Juan wanted LIsa, but Dave won her. Is that another reason for JUan trying to ruin Dave?.... Back to wrapping presents.
 

Lord knows she's got the wardrobe for it, tofie. OTOH, her being a hothead would make her a lousier choice for sheriff than Lieutenant Skunk...
 

UA: Not surprised Juan is aligning with El Coyote to send Luciana back to Mexico. Anyone else think there's a criminal syndicate going on ?

Bill: Why is Marta delaying the inevitable in regards to Luciana & Gutierrez meeting face-to-face ?

Kirby: I'm expecting Leon to be targeted by Juan, El Coyote & Mark.

The Body Count will likely increase again!

 

I don't know that Juan is thinking of that just yet. Based on earlier conversations it sounded like he's put the date on the calendar and is looking to pull the rug out from under Luciana at the last minute. That would not allow enough time for David to do anything or for Brian to redeem himself. He probably can't anyway now that he is a regular policeman rather than a border patrol officer.

Since we all agree that Juan is in over his head with El Coyote I predict that he will screw up somewhere in the near future and hand Luciana over to him as payment to forgive the transgression.

Since El Coyote (When is someone going to say his actual name?) can't do what he does alone, we know there is a syndicate. He has trafficked in underage girls before, so selling an adult female would appeal to him because it's probably a lesser risk in terms of what prison time he could get for it.
 

UA: Bold Prediction: Luciana will be sold into Sex Slavery, etc.,


 

Thanks, Urban. Excellent title. Like Susanlynn, I had to look up "goat eyes." Funny, never noticed that about goats' eyes before. They look just fine on the goats, but there is something a little creepy about Graciela's eyes. A sort of vacancy. (I think the actress is very pretty, but she's bringing more to this role than just her appearance.)

I am looking forward to Erika showing up. I'm getting so tired of this David-Luciana-Miguel stuff. Hopefully Erika will disrupt that in some way.
 

Oh and shame on Leon for using Sonia to make Carito jealous. He didn't like it when Carito used him that way. He shouldn't do that to Sonia, even if he thinks she's immune.
 

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I didn't notice it until last night, but the opening credits now mention Erika the Hitherto Unseen as well in addition to Mark and Adolfo, Rival Wine Guy. Apparently she's being played by one Barbara Lopez, who last popped up in Un camino hacia un destino. (Didn't see it, so I have no idea if this is a good or bad thing.)

Julie: did Leon actually say he was trying to make Carito jealous at some point? CC3 from my local Uni feed was all wonked up, so I thought it was a legitimate followup from the wine launch event. If that's the case, though, it could be the setup for him and Sonia actually developing real nebbish feelings for each other and getting over their crushes on Carito and David together. That could work...
 

No, Leon didn't say that. It's just my assumption. Maybe I'm wrong and he's over Carito already.
 

Heh, I can't seem to say everything in one go lately. I meant to add that it wasn't just CC3 that was screwed up. CC1 was too slow to follow. Very frustrating.
 

Erika was Lucero in UCHUD
 

Bill, I am looking forward to seeing Erika. I really enjoyed the actress in Camino and hope she is playing a good hearted character here.

Diana
 

I'm still betting Erika will be Evil!

 

Before everyone disappears into Christmas I want to say that I really appreciate the writers on my team for this program. I think you are the reason we're getting more comments here than on the two other series that have better writers and what I think are better stories.

So gracias to: Delilah, Sonia, Cynthia, dy77, and Anita, whose wit and observations are bringing such lively discussions to this series.

Now, back to our normal discussion.
 

Julie: maybe Peter should be with Carito!

 

Steve, you may be right: Peter deserves a girl who has enthusiasm. And Carito would appreciate such an attentive young man.

I don't think we'll see that, though.

As one of the people who is about to disappear into Christmas myself (spending less time online after today), I'll also thank Urban, Delilah, Sonia, Cynthia, dy77, and Anita. Your witty and thoughtful recaps transform a telenovela that I consider somewhat mediocre into a fun watch-along experience.
 

Thanks so much for the great recap, Urban! As someone who only minimally watches this show, I can very much say that I'm only here for the recaps and comments. Great job!
 

I'll be disappearing to Christmas too here in San Antonio, TX.

However, I will be watching the show d
throughout next week.
 

Oh wow, UA you really nailed this one with those pictures of DisGracie so well. Oh my goodness, does she have a "soulless" predatory stare on her. It's so psychopathic. I looked at that and the song by Duran Duran came on in my brain, "Hungry like the Wolf".

Come to think of it, Lilian is predatory too. See how she is playing with her "prey", ie...Brian Gutierrez? It's a "like mother, like daughter" situation. I don't know which one is worse. Probably DisGracie is worse because we know she actually murdered Lisa. But I just have this funny feeling that Lillian murdered her husband too. That does remain to be seen and I hope they answer that question sometime.

I wanted to barf when I saw Lilian with Gutierrez and she told him "I'm your best option". He looks off the other way like he's only putting up with her because he needs her right now. I don't believe he really has feelings for her. I think that was gone a long time ago, but Lilian won't stop because of this competition she has going with Marta.

As for El Coyote and his human trafficking: This is one subject that really makes me angry. Young girls STOLEN, kidnapped from their homes and trafficked into sex slavery. These girls are beaten into submission and kept drugged all the time. I don't know how anyone can do that to other human beings, it's just so tragic. I met someone earlier this year who runs a non profit organization that tries to rescue these young girls and rehabilitate them, get them off drugs, educate and train them. The stories are just so tragic, my heart just breaks thinking about these situations.

It's also a tragedy to see people trafficked illegally from the Latin American countries and put into forced labor. I know that there have been sweat shops in Los Angeles that have been closed down because these people were literally slaves who had no choice as they were trafficked here illegally. It's a type of Mexican mafia in control of all this including the drugs and so forth. It's a very sad and tragic underworld that goes on right under our noses in the USA.

So seeing this stuff with Juan, Mark, and that Coyote really strikes a nerve in me. But the TN can resemble real life because these things do happen.
 

Admittedly human trafficing is at least as bad as we are all saying, actually worse. BUT..in our little fluff TN it has not been even alluded to. Only here on Caray Crazy.

I'd be surprised if the TN goes there. Thus far they are only talking about getting non citizens across the border to work in vineyards. It will be nice to have something with a bit more sustenance in it than Susie likes Roger, but Roger like Carol, but Sam wants to go out with Nickey.
 

Lillian doesn't have the obvious demon look that Gracie has, this is true. But I suspect that Gracie is more cold-blooded than Lillian. This will be very interesting when the two of them finally clash.

Brian is definitely putting up with Lillian as long as he thinks he has to. If he becomes sheriff he'll drop her like a hot burrito. But I doubt he'd be able to get his name removed from the Munoz deportation and that will really kick him in the pants.
 

Good recap UA. And she was facin satan. She Better not turn her back on her. She might wind up like her sister.(lisa)

I wish they'd write some smarts into the script for gabs character, I'm tired of seeing him super stupid to the people around him that he calls family. Bobby is the smartest one in the family. Poor kid, stuck with dumb
Adults. Ok gotta go, dinners ready. Yall stay warm.

Thanks URBAN!!
 

Thank you UA. Miss one episode to catch my Redskins and their horrid defense, miss a lot!
 

Nina: That would be crazy if they have Graciela whacking Luciana!

I'm betting Graciela kills either Marta or Leon.

 

Urban, I'd like to add my thanks to you and your team for all the great work that you do. I am among those who minimally keep up with this novela and, as such, rely on and appreciate the recapping team and commenters to keep up with how things are developing. Many thanks. Helen