Wednesday, December 14, 2016
Vino el Amor; Wednesday, 12/14/2016 chapter 32: Graciela Manipulates, gets her Way
Luciana
walks up to David and she tells him he is right. David says that’s the first
time he’s ever heard her say that. She explains that since this is his business
and vineyard, but if Gracie is going to be doing what she is doing, then
Luciana wants no part of the project. David says, “Well this is very
unprofessional on your part.” Luci says she just doesn’t like Gracie and from
day one, Gracie has never treated her with respect. The second reason is that
she is not in agreement with Gracie’s point of view regarding the creative
aspects of this project. David says that they can integrate both points of view
and he really needs her professional expertise. Then he pulls his trump card,
the “Remember, your father Marcos was part of all this too. But it’s your
decision, Luciana.”
Gracie
and Lil are outside still dressed in black and Gracie has to speak with her. Gracie
wants Lil to start getting along with Marta. Lil says that Fernanda wants them
to get along, but she only went along with it because Fernanda asked her to.
Lil says it will be impossible and she won’t be a hypocrite. Gracie says she
spoke with Fernanda and this gave her a lot of ideas about how to get to David. So she
needs Lil to get along with Marta. Lil says, “Not after what happened with
Fernando.” Gracie says, “Well Dad had good reason to go and find someone else!
Well look how you mistreated him, what did you expect him to do?” Lil cries, “I
gave him status, I gave him class, I gave him citizenship! And now Marta wants
to do the same thing to me again.” Gracie says, “Oh with Gutierrez?” As she
shakes her head. She says she’s known Gutierrez for many years who was a friend
of Fernando’s. Everything was going well until Marta interfered with her
relationship with Gutierrez. Gracie tells her she’s just angry because now this
makes two Latino men who like Marta more than her. Why doesn’t she just go
after an American man says Gracie. Lil is about to leave but Gracie has a plan
to get David and part of that plan involves Lillian being nice to Martha. She
reluctantly agrees to Gracie’s plan.
Bobby
walks into the family room where Fernanda and Peter are visiting. (Earlier, Peter showed up to visit with a box of chocolates for Fernanda) Bobby says,
“What are you doing?” Fernanda introduces them and Peter says, “So you are the
famous Bobby?” Peter pulls out a video game, that latest “Zombies” game. Peter
volunteers to play games with Bobby as Fernanda rolls her eyes and shakes her
head. Fernanda become very bored and kicks back with her earbuds and music.
Peter says he will see her tomorrow and come back to play with Bobby.
Tano
and Ramon are walking through the vineyard and Ramon is telling him the facts
of life about how to behave with women.
Adolfo
comes to visit David and David offers him a glass of wine. He’s come to talk
about Luciana, he’s needs someone like her, but David says she going to stay.
David invites him to come to the coming presentation for the reserve wine.
Lillian joins them and David gets back to work. They talk about their being single
and maybe they should see each other more often, after all he’s coming to the
wine presentation.
Back
in the bodega, Luciana is sounding off to Susan and venting about Gracie. Susan
tells her not to be foolish about what is going on. Luci says it’s because
David is giving so much importance to what Gracie is pushing. Susan also says
that she’s just jealous. If Luci doesn’t participate in the project, the Gracie
is going to have her way and everything is going to be about Gracie. Susan
says, “Are you going to let your pride get in the way of what is important? If
you want this wine to be representative of what we are all about, you are going
to have to what I do. Insert your batteries, get to work and just endure
Gracie!” Luci says it really bothers her but Susan is right. Susan convinces
her to participate and Luci says she will do it because of her father.
Miguel
and David are discussing the loss of the migrant workers. Miguel did not know
that their paperwork was falsified and is sorry. David does not want any more
temps without papers. David has more to say and it is personal and about
Luciana, he’s no longer in charge of her, Miguel is. Luciana walks up after
David leaves and tells her about what David just said and asks Luci what it all
means. Luci says things are just making her crazy lately with trying to please
“La Cuñadita” ( sarcastic ~ darling little sister in law).
In
the bodega later that night, there is a meeting and Luciana explains that she
wants everyone to listen to her. Luci has Miguel and Tano with her to explain
all the work that goes into the vineyard. David says there is a love for the
soil that cannot be forgotten, but sometimes things just get in the way in life
that are not in your control. Miguel explains when you have the sunshine, the
rain, the soil, and the grapes, you just struggle to give it your best. You
take care of it and you don’t let it go. Miguel and David are giving each other
the “stare down”. David explains that life doesn’t always happen the way you
think it should and in time Miguel will see that things and persons are the
ones who you love. Gracie pipes up and says, “Excuse me, are we still talking
about wine, or something else?” David says, “Of course we are talking about
wine!” Susan then says she will get all the specifications together that
explain the wine making process. Luci adds that she will make sure that this
presentation will show how this wine will not lose its life or soul. David will
also make sure that this project contains his affection, endeavors, and what it
means for him. He also looks at Gracie and tells her in no uncertain words,
“Luciana and Susan are not your subordinates. You are working together as a
team and they are not at your beck and call.” Gracie says, “of course.”
Juan
and Perla are in town having dinner. She goes to the restroom and there is
Adolfo coming to say to Juan. He’s coming to the presentation and Juan says
it’s no secret that his vineyard is their competitor. Adolfo says everything
that goes up must come down. Now his vineyard is having to take drastic action
to compete. And that’s where the cordiality ends. Juan says it’s his business
to do what he needs to do. Adolf is not revealing his secrets. Perla returns
after Adolfo leaves and here comes Mark, Susan’s ex-husband! (He really looks
like a slime bucket.) Juan sends Perla back to his apartment and Juan and Mark
sit down to “talk business”. Juan comes home and tells Perla that Mark’s
business plan will make them a lot of easy and fast money.
After
the bodega meeting, Luciana and Miguel return to the employees house she is
still all upset because of Gracie. Luci just doesn’t like or believe Gracie.
She thinks Gracie just wants the vineyard presentation to be a gallery for her
paintings.
Susan
comes in and tells Luci and Miguel that Mark has been calling her all day long
and she’s tired of him. She is going back to her own house so she can enjoy
what is left of what she has there before Mark takes it away from her.
At
the big house, Gracie and David are talking. Gracie doesn’t know how to get the
employees to like or trust her. David says he will talk with them and Gracie
says she wants to come too. She conveniently drops her cell phone in front of
David and they both bend down so he can get a good look at her cleavage.
Gracie
walks into the family room where Bobby is. He asks her if she can get some
shirts of the soccer player Christiano? Gracie says he can count on her but she
has to ask first. But it’s bedtime now and she will get him ready for bed and
tuck him in. David watches from nearby and lovingly looks at the both of them
heading upstairs.
Next
morning Mark shows up in Susan’s office. He says he still loves her. (Yeah
right.) They argue and she told him he abused her and he’d better leave now
before she calls her lawyer. Get out now! Tano looks on in the background.
Susan runs out crying and Tano follows. He tells her he has aspirations and
wants to start his own company one day. He wants to continue to be there for
her, but Susan says it’s not fair to him because of what she is going through
with the divorce.
David
is having breakfast with his kids and Bobby tells him about how Gracie is going
to get shirts for his friends. David says he should not be making promises he
might not be able to keep. The boys need to respect him for who he is. Bobby
agreed that’s what Luciana said to him. Lillian makes a snide remark about
Luciana and David glares at her. Fernanda then says it’s just great that we
have our Aunt Gracie around now. And who should appear next? Speak of the
devil! Everyone looks up at her and David says they were just talking about
her. Later as Marta is cleaning up and clearing the breakfast dishes, Lillian
looks up at Marta and says she is not as needed as she once was. David defends
Marta and tells her they are very lucky to have her. Lillian has an evil smile
on her face.
After
breakfast, Lil and Gracie go outside to the porch and Lillian says she is so
proud of Gracie. Grace says, “Well that’s different, I’ve never heard you say
you are proud of me. I only remember that you thought Lisa was smart because
she married a rich man.” Marta walks outside and Gracie says she’s glad she is
there because her mother wants to apologize for all the awful things she has
ever done to Marta. She calls Marta over and says it’s true and now she knows
her mistakes. Marta says it’s not necessary, she carries no grudges. But Gracie
wants them to join hands and let bygones be bygones. But Gracie’s ulterior
motive is to get Marta to unwittingly help her with plans concerning Luciana.
Fernanda
finds Tano and they start talking and Fernanda lets him know all about Peter
trying to make him jealous. David is too busy to take Ferbrat to school
so he hands Tano the keys and says, “Please take Fernanda to school and be
careful.”
They
arrive at school and Fer’s friends are giggling and saying how handsome Tano
is. Peter comes up and Fer is just annoyed with him and poor Peter is really
confused and didn’t know what he did. Fer tells her friends how much she likes
Tano and they all start swooning in their teeny bopper way. She comes up with a
plan to use Peter to make Tano jealous.
Luciana
and Miguel come down talking about what happened to the temp workers. Gracie
walks up and is so glad to see them. She wants to fix things between them. She
also knows that they are very important employees to David and wants them all
to just get along. (“Can’t we all just get along?”) Gracie asks Luciana to go
over her paperwork just to make sure it is all correct. Miguel doesn’t see
through Gracie, but Luciana tells him, “Something about that woman give me the
feeling of a sharp thorn in my side.”
Sonia
reports to Lillian about Gracie’s activities with David, but Lillian says to
call off the spying on Gracie and that Gracie can do what she wants. Sonia is a
little confused, but walks away with an “alrighty then” attitude, goes to do her other chores.
Juan
calls Mark and says the business is not going to be easy.
Last,
Miguel and Luciana walk through the vineyard discussing a few details about the
project and the love for the land. They end it with a very romantic embrace and
kiss. However, in the background David is watching and is seething with
jealousy. You can almost see his blood boiling.
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Comments:
Diana, good morning. Cold and windy here...20. Winter is here.
I missed seeing Mark. If he is eyeballing young Perla..ick. Lecher. That roving eye was probably partly the cause of the divorce.
GRacie is pretty clever at wearing that mask of caring and gentle support. She seems to be patiently wearing Sad Dave down. She is not the first person to hide her true nature until she gets what she wants ...Which in Gracie's case is everything\body her sister had. Hello , sibling rivalry.
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My Word, thank you Cynthia. Didn't expect this midnight surprise! How nice.
Did anyone else feel like losing their supper when all are gathered to hash out the details of the wine presentation mind meld and Miggy and Luccy could not even get through it with loooong draaaaawn ouuuut looks of love. Especially Miggy the horn dog. He is so in love, grow a pair kid. Sheesus Peesus, get a frippin room you two and get it out of your system for long enough to hit maybe one lick of work. I would have shit canned both of them when I had to pry them apart in the vineyard. DONE..! Look, you two are sooo out of here. "Hello Labor Ready, sent me a couple more. Yeah You're Welcome, bye."
Oh, and Thanks Again Cynthia. Toodle pips till tomorrow.
Did anyone else feel like losing their supper when all are gathered to hash out the details of the wine presentation mind meld and Miggy and Luccy could not even get through it with loooong draaaaawn ouuuut looks of love. Especially Miggy the horn dog. He is so in love, grow a pair kid. Sheesus Peesus, get a frippin room you two and get it out of your system for long enough to hit maybe one lick of work. I would have shit canned both of them when I had to pry them apart in the vineyard. DONE..! Look, you two are sooo out of here. "Hello Labor Ready, sent me a couple more. Yeah You're Welcome, bye."
Oh, and Thanks Again Cynthia. Toodle pips till tomorrow.
thank you, CYnthia, for this speedy recap. I only saw the first half , so I especially appreciate it.
Liliana looked different to me....better. Different mskeup? Her eye brows looked different. The wardrobe department still hates her.
Well, later gators. I have final grades to submit.
Verra cold here...brrrrrrrr.
Liliana looked different to me....better. Different mskeup? Her eye brows looked different. The wardrobe department still hates her.
Well, later gators. I have final grades to submit.
Verra cold here...brrrrrrrr.
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: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 6:09:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 6:09:00 AM EST
Thank you Cynthia
"Fernanda become very bored and kicks back with her earbuds and music" Highlight of the evening
Graciela as the peace maker and brilliantly executed is exactly what David, his family and his business needs. The only fly in the soup is Luciana. Sooner Luciana and Miguel consummate their relationship the better for all.
So glad to have more folk thrown into the mix. I'm bored with smooching Miguel and Luciana, Marta/Lilian/Bryan and being force fed Susan and Tano.
Guess Juan and Adolfo go way back but why the warning instead of a job offer?
What is Juan and Mark up to and how will that make Juan rich? Perhaps Susan's house is in San Francisco and appraised at 2 or 3 million.
"Fernanda become very bored and kicks back with her earbuds and music" Highlight of the evening
Graciela as the peace maker and brilliantly executed is exactly what David, his family and his business needs. The only fly in the soup is Luciana. Sooner Luciana and Miguel consummate their relationship the better for all.
So glad to have more folk thrown into the mix. I'm bored with smooching Miguel and Luciana, Marta/Lilian/Bryan and being force fed Susan and Tano.
Guess Juan and Adolfo go way back but why the warning instead of a job offer?
What is Juan and Mark up to and how will that make Juan rich? Perhaps Susan's house is in San Francisco and appraised at 2 or 3 million.
Cynthia, I loved your recap which far surpassed the actual episode. You write so well, seemingly effortlessly. Your title was perfect as were the screen shots. You could see Lili cringing at the mere thought of apologizing to (let alone accepting) Marta.
Your dialogue translations were wonderful and greatly appreciated.
"he pulls his trump card, the “Remember, your father Marcos was part of all this too" was my favorite line of many.
"Susan says, “Are you going to let your pride get in the way of what is important? If you want this wine to be representative of what we are all about, you are going to have to what I do. Insert your batteries, get to work and just endure Gracie!” was great! Susan's personal life may be in shreds, but she dispenses solid advice to her friends, doesn't she?
"David watches from nearby and lovingly looks at the both of them heading upstairs". Can someone tell me please if Graciela was aware of David's presence? She didn't seem to know he was there, yet seemed genuinely kind and loving to Bobby. Was that just for show? I would hope there would be some strand of kindness among her cold calculations.
The night belonged to Graciela. Cool and manipulative with nothing but the sweetest, sincerest expressions, she is melting David's defenses by winning her niece and nephew over more each passing day. Even Lili has given her blessing. Poor Lisa must truly be beside herself.
Mark did seem like a slimeball Cynthia! There was nothing about him that stood out for me in any way. The lascivious way he looked at Perla was cringeworthy.
At least Luci and Susan have Gracie's number. Am glad Luci stepped up to the challenge of working with Gracie. This could get interesting.
Susanlynn, the wardrobe department does hate Lili! Too funny...
I hope everyone stays warm and well today. Cynthia, thank you for this most excellent summary...
Diana
Your dialogue translations were wonderful and greatly appreciated.
"he pulls his trump card, the “Remember, your father Marcos was part of all this too" was my favorite line of many.
"Susan says, “Are you going to let your pride get in the way of what is important? If you want this wine to be representative of what we are all about, you are going to have to what I do. Insert your batteries, get to work and just endure Gracie!” was great! Susan's personal life may be in shreds, but she dispenses solid advice to her friends, doesn't she?
"David watches from nearby and lovingly looks at the both of them heading upstairs". Can someone tell me please if Graciela was aware of David's presence? She didn't seem to know he was there, yet seemed genuinely kind and loving to Bobby. Was that just for show? I would hope there would be some strand of kindness among her cold calculations.
The night belonged to Graciela. Cool and manipulative with nothing but the sweetest, sincerest expressions, she is melting David's defenses by winning her niece and nephew over more each passing day. Even Lili has given her blessing. Poor Lisa must truly be beside herself.
Mark did seem like a slimeball Cynthia! There was nothing about him that stood out for me in any way. The lascivious way he looked at Perla was cringeworthy.
At least Luci and Susan have Gracie's number. Am glad Luci stepped up to the challenge of working with Gracie. This could get interesting.
Susanlynn, the wardrobe department does hate Lili! Too funny...
I hope everyone stays warm and well today. Cynthia, thank you for this most excellent summary...
Diana
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:29:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:29:00 AM EST
Diana, good morning. Cold and windy here...20. Winter is here.
I missed seeing Mark. If he is eyeballing young Perla..ick. Lecher. That roving eye was probably partly the cause of the divorce.
GRacie is pretty clever at wearing that mask of caring and gentle support. She seems to be patiently wearing Sad Dave down. She is not the first person to hide her true nature until she gets what she wants ...Which in Gracie's case is everything\body her sister had. Hello , sibling rivalry.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:29:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 8:29:00 AM EST
Oh yeah this presentation soiree can't fail with Luci and Graci spending, most probably, most of their time fighting each other. On top of that, we have never seen Luci toiling away for more than 12 seconds in one marathon stretch anyway, so her contribution is crucial.
I was expecting Slimeba...er...Mark to look away from Perla and ask NOJuan, "Do you mind?" as if expecting NOJuan to share. OK dirtbag, she may not be our favorite, but she's not a slice of pepperoni pizza.
Adolfo gets in line for the "Punch Ducklips in the Face" sign up sheet.
You have to give it to Gracie, she is focused, and under control. This murdering little sociopath is one cool cucumber. She makes little Lucy look like the Tasmanian Devil.
I was expecting Slimeba...er...Mark to look away from Perla and ask NOJuan, "Do you mind?" as if expecting NOJuan to share. OK dirtbag, she may not be our favorite, but she's not a slice of pepperoni pizza.
Adolfo gets in line for the "Punch Ducklips in the Face" sign up sheet.
You have to give it to Gracie, she is focused, and under control. This murdering little sociopath is one cool cucumber. She makes little Lucy look like the Tasmanian Devil.
Such a contrast..the ice queen versus the earthy hippie.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 9:27:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 9:27:00 AM EST
tofie, you were half right--Fernanda zonked out listening to her music was the second best thing in the episode, right behind Lilian's "Oh God don't make me touch that--dammit, I'm touching that!" faces when Graciela made her make up with Marta.
Speaking of which: it's increasingly obvious that, while at first glance you probably would have thought it'd be Lilian as the chief villain of the show, Graciela is decidedly more actively villainous than she is (and then there's Punchable Face Juan, but until he commits a murder he's still a somewhat distant second). And the fact that Graciela is a consistently never-let-them-see-you-sweat villana makes it even more of a pleasant--in its way--surprise.
As for (o hai) Mark...did anybody else's opinion of Susan drop a notch, even briefly, the minute he showed up? I guess it's supposed to be ironic that Susan, one of the show's voices of reason, would fall for an almost literal pile of grunge (that said, his look made me think "Yeah, this kinda explains Tano, doesn't it?), but wow. At least we got another Mar Contreras freakout scene out of it.
Speaking of which: it's increasingly obvious that, while at first glance you probably would have thought it'd be Lilian as the chief villain of the show, Graciela is decidedly more actively villainous than she is (and then there's Punchable Face Juan, but until he commits a murder he's still a somewhat distant second). And the fact that Graciela is a consistently never-let-them-see-you-sweat villana makes it even more of a pleasant--in its way--surprise.
As for (o hai) Mark...did anybody else's opinion of Susan drop a notch, even briefly, the minute he showed up? I guess it's supposed to be ironic that Susan, one of the show's voices of reason, would fall for an almost literal pile of grunge (that said, his look made me think "Yeah, this kinda explains Tano, doesn't it?), but wow. At least we got another Mar Contreras freakout scene out of it.
Cynthia--Well crafted recap. I loved every word and could have skipped watching all the fawning over Luci that Miguel did. (I feel sorry for the actor, cause he knows he's going to lose her--but he does put his heart and soul into showing his desire for her.)
Diana--Gracie does everything for show.
This is the first time we've seen Lilian debase herself in front of her daughter. She's always been the powerhouse, manipulating and dictating to Gracie. This is definitely a turn about--even if it's Gracie's plan to get David.
Kirby and Bill C--you have Gracie's number--calm, cool, focused and nobody had better get in her way, not even mumsie.
As long as Lisa was alive, Lilian didn't need Grace. She was better off in Europe where she couldn't get into trouble. (I still wonder how she made enough of a living off her art to afford all the Clairol and Drama Red lipstick she needs.)
Now that Grace is back with an agenda, Lilian finds herself in the background, eased out by the youngsters, Juan and Grace. She really only has two things left to occupy herself with--Gutierrez and ordering Sonia around. Let's see if she comes up with anything else. Something will have to come between mother and daughter to make things interesting.
Diana--Gracie does everything for show.
This is the first time we've seen Lilian debase herself in front of her daughter. She's always been the powerhouse, manipulating and dictating to Gracie. This is definitely a turn about--even if it's Gracie's plan to get David.
Kirby and Bill C--you have Gracie's number--calm, cool, focused and nobody had better get in her way, not even mumsie.
As long as Lisa was alive, Lilian didn't need Grace. She was better off in Europe where she couldn't get into trouble. (I still wonder how she made enough of a living off her art to afford all the Clairol and Drama Red lipstick she needs.)
Now that Grace is back with an agenda, Lilian finds herself in the background, eased out by the youngsters, Juan and Grace. She really only has two things left to occupy herself with--Gutierrez and ordering Sonia around. Let's see if she comes up with anything else. Something will have to come between mother and daughter to make things interesting.
Thank you Cynthia, I enjoyed it and appreciated it - I missed parts of last night's episode.
Luciana really is your stereotypical workplace millennial who needs to look into paying some workplace dues first, huh.
Gracie is my favorite on this - awful person, but the actress makes the character fun to watch being bad.
Luciana really is your stereotypical workplace millennial who needs to look into paying some workplace dues first, huh.
Gracie is my favorite on this - awful person, but the actress makes the character fun to watch being bad.
Question...CAn guys buy sleeveless shirts , or does Miguel have to cut the sleeves off himself?
Miguel is hopelessly devoted to LUci just as Dave was hopelessly devoted to LIsa. Miguel is going to be hurt. He deserves someone who appreciates that devotion.
I cannot wait to see Mark. I did not see the end . Does he look like Tano?
Miguel is hopelessly devoted to LUci just as Dave was hopelessly devoted to LIsa. Miguel is going to be hurt. He deserves someone who appreciates that devotion.
I cannot wait to see Mark. I did not see the end . Does he look like Tano?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:02:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:02:00 AM EST
Thanks, Cynthia. "David has more to say and it is personal and about Luciana, he’s no longer in charge of her, Miguel is." I was annoyed to think that either of them is "in charge" of Luci, but honestly, Luci does not seem to be in charge of Luci. She is out of control.
So, we finally met Mark, and Perla knows where Juan lives. Two big mysteries solved. Too bad I didn't see it. Though I suspect this won't be Mark's last episode. Anyway, I saw him in your screencap, Cynthia. Thanks for that. I can't tell much from the back of his head, but there's nothing there that makes me want to see the rest of him.
So, we finally met Mark, and Perla knows where Juan lives. Two big mysteries solved. Too bad I didn't see it. Though I suspect this won't be Mark's last episode. Anyway, I saw him in your screencap, Cynthia. Thanks for that. I can't tell much from the back of his head, but there's nothing there that makes me want to see the rest of him.
Sue, he doesn't actually CUT the sleeves off, they are worn off from hugging her Luciness with THOSE guns.
So....did Perls and NOJuan go the the meeting place in separate cars, as Perl was sent to his place while he and Douch...Mark worked out THE EVIL PLAN? How did she know where it was? Does Perl now have a car? Or was it within walking distance, or did Perla use TeleNovela "Think Travel" (TNTT) as I have noted before?
Kirby...wow...thanks for that visual. Luci needs to open her eyes and notice that her childhood friend is all grown up now. Luci need..I like it.
Julie..I agree that nobody should be "in charge" of Luci except Luci, but I also agree that Luci does not seem able to be in charge of herself . GRacie is certainly supremely able to control herself as she manipulates everyone around her to try to get what she wants .
By the way, how does Juan know that GRacie killed LIsa? Did he see it , or did GRacie tell him?
Julie..I agree that nobody should be "in charge" of Luci except Luci, but I also agree that Luci does not seem able to be in charge of herself . GRacie is certainly supremely able to control herself as she manipulates everyone around her to try to get what she wants .
By the way, how does Juan know that GRacie killed LIsa? Did he see it , or did GRacie tell him?
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:19:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:19:00 AM EST
Thank you autocorrect.."Luci need" was supposed to be LUciness.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:20:00 AM EST
: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 11:20:00 AM EST
Somebody needs to tell Miguel he won already and stop with the threats. He wants so badly to punch David.
Let's see, Graciela
financial bailout for David and the vineyard
supports Miguel and Luciana, should make them happy, especially Miguel
supports Fernanda and Bobby and their relationship with Marta
argues the futility of Lilian's obsession with Marta successfully to foster harmony in the home
won't let Juan destroy David or get him in trouble with the law
is not confused about who she wants
artsy and well paid for her work, financially independent but willing to forego her art to learn and support David
If it weren't for bashing her sister in the head with a rock she's a perfect match for widower Dave
Let's see, Graciela
financial bailout for David and the vineyard
supports Miguel and Luciana, should make them happy, especially Miguel
supports Fernanda and Bobby and their relationship with Marta
argues the futility of Lilian's obsession with Marta successfully to foster harmony in the home
won't let Juan destroy David or get him in trouble with the law
is not confused about who she wants
artsy and well paid for her work, financially independent but willing to forego her art to learn and support David
If it weren't for bashing her sister in the head with a rock she's a perfect match for widower Dave
Good work, Cynthia.
SusanLynn, Juan guessed it because of the sequence of events. I think he saw Gracie leave the house and then definitely saw her return after the crime, looking dazed and probably frightened. David found Lisa's body shortly thereafter and Juan remembered the direction he saw Gracie return from. He also knows the backstory and therefore her motive. He has this on her and she knows it.
SusanLynn, Juan guessed it because of the sequence of events. I think he saw Gracie leave the house and then definitely saw her return after the crime, looking dazed and probably frightened. David found Lisa's body shortly thereafter and Juan remembered the direction he saw Gracie return from. He also knows the backstory and therefore her motive. He has this on her and she knows it.
Sorry everyone that I forgot to tag this recap with the word "vino". Thank you Anita for doing it for me. I KNEW there was something I was forgetting and I couldn't figure out what it was. I need to put a sticky on my computer screen so that I don't forget for next time.
Tofie, you said: "What is Juan and Mark up to and how will that make Juan rich? Perhaps Susan's house is in San Francisco and appraised at 2 or 3 million." Yeah maybe. And it's only a 2 bedroom townhome. ;) I definitely know how expensive San Francisco is!
Julie: David used the word in Spanish "encargado" which means "in charge". I'm not sure exactly how he meant it, perhaps as an employee organizational chartwise. I'm sure there is a double meaning behind it, like, "She's yours to deal with now" and David was making it sound like it was a work thing. Also, I thought of putting a screenshot in of Mark, but I liked the one of Susan telling Mark to get out better and that had the back of his head.
Bill C: You mentioned that your opinion of Susan may have changed when Mark showed up. I was once married to an abusive man and have known other women who were married to abusers. When you date an abuser, you don't know what they are because since most are psychopathic, they put on a very good act for as long as they need to. Then when you get married or move in with them, their true colors start showing, but by that time, they have you so psyched out and manipulated that you question your own sanity. They put one face on for the world and another face on for their spouse/girlfriend. The rest of the world sees this "wonderful guy" who has a great and charming personality. But at home, he turns into Mr. Hyde. Strong women have the fortitude to walk out, whatever the consequences are.
Susanlynn: I agree with your assessment that Mark's roving eye was part of the reason for the divorce, but I also believe that his physical abusive behavior was the bigger part.
Thanks everyone for your compliments! I'll be back later. I have a lot of work to do today. :)
Tofie, you said: "What is Juan and Mark up to and how will that make Juan rich? Perhaps Susan's house is in San Francisco and appraised at 2 or 3 million." Yeah maybe. And it's only a 2 bedroom townhome. ;) I definitely know how expensive San Francisco is!
Julie: David used the word in Spanish "encargado" which means "in charge". I'm not sure exactly how he meant it, perhaps as an employee organizational chartwise. I'm sure there is a double meaning behind it, like, "She's yours to deal with now" and David was making it sound like it was a work thing. Also, I thought of putting a screenshot in of Mark, but I liked the one of Susan telling Mark to get out better and that had the back of his head.
Bill C: You mentioned that your opinion of Susan may have changed when Mark showed up. I was once married to an abusive man and have known other women who were married to abusers. When you date an abuser, you don't know what they are because since most are psychopathic, they put on a very good act for as long as they need to. Then when you get married or move in with them, their true colors start showing, but by that time, they have you so psyched out and manipulated that you question your own sanity. They put one face on for the world and another face on for their spouse/girlfriend. The rest of the world sees this "wonderful guy" who has a great and charming personality. But at home, he turns into Mr. Hyde. Strong women have the fortitude to walk out, whatever the consequences are.
Susanlynn: I agree with your assessment that Mark's roving eye was part of the reason for the divorce, but I also believe that his physical abusive behavior was the bigger part.
Thanks everyone for your compliments! I'll be back later. I have a lot of work to do today. :)
Lord, if NOJuan let Perla drive his Bimmer to his house she will be picking out wedding dresses before they shoot the next episode.
Kirby: Now we see the story between Susan & her abusive ex-OJ Mark. I'm worried that Mark's going to be beating Susan again.
Perla needs to get a CLUE & notice that Juan is likely to do the same to her too.
Cynthia: Mark violently abusing Susan reminded me of Erick Montenegro abusing Connie in "Pasion Y Poder".
Tofie: But the best part is that Fernanda, Bobby & David have NO idea that Graciela whacked Lisa. When the truth about that comes out, we're going to sit back & watch.
However, for now, let Graciela keep winning at the moment.
Julie: Where was Carito ? I didn't see her in last night's episode.
Perla needs to get a CLUE & notice that Juan is likely to do the same to her too.
Cynthia: Mark violently abusing Susan reminded me of Erick Montenegro abusing Connie in "Pasion Y Poder".
Tofie: But the best part is that Fernanda, Bobby & David have NO idea that Graciela whacked Lisa. When the truth about that comes out, we're going to sit back & watch.
However, for now, let Graciela keep winning at the moment.
Julie: Where was Carito ? I didn't see her in last night's episode.
You say that like Perla doesn't already have a bulleted plan hidden somewhere under her pillow, Kirby...then again, I'm not sure if she thinks past "Mack on Juan. Bounce Luciana like a check."
Cynthia: *hug*! You do make a good point about abusers often being able to hide their true nature from the world...but, at least for me, Mark failed that horribly because he looked like grunge from the second he showed up. It absolutely should have applied, and it might even have been better from a narrative standpoint if he had shown up as a well-dressed man with a nice cut, but the show went the opposite way doing sixty. (I still think his vague resemblance to Tano explains a bit about Susan after she left him, but that's me.)
Cynthia: *hug*! You do make a good point about abusers often being able to hide their true nature from the world...but, at least for me, Mark failed that horribly because he looked like grunge from the second he showed up. It absolutely should have applied, and it might even have been better from a narrative standpoint if he had shown up as a well-dressed man with a nice cut, but the show went the opposite way doing sixty. (I still think his vague resemblance to Tano explains a bit about Susan after she left him, but that's me.)
Bill C: I wouldn't be surprised if Perla ends up like "Pasion Y Poder"'s Montserrat: thrown out of a balcony.
Nope Steve. They will notice the next batch tastes 'Funny' and the spigot is sort of stopped up. :-)
Thanks, Cynthia!
Y'all killing me! Great comments! Tofie. You always hit the nail on the head. Except for that rock upside the head Gracie DOES look pretty good compared to Luciana flip flopping, butting in where she doesn't belong. . .her attack on Gracie's launch plan for the wine looked not only unprofessional but bitchy and stoopid. Luci tried to play nice later with that pitiful little speech she gave. And yes, Kirby, her and Miguel's drooling looks were nauseating. Gracie showed her how to really do "nice/nasty". I hate to admit it but agree with y'all that Grace did shine in this episode man, she is working these people like there's no tomorrow.
If Gracie gets into David's tight jeans and Miguel gets into Luci's even tighter ones, I don't know how they're going to convince us that David and Luci are end game and I don't know if I want to watch that butt ugliness.
Y'all killing me! Great comments! Tofie. You always hit the nail on the head. Except for that rock upside the head Gracie DOES look pretty good compared to Luciana flip flopping, butting in where she doesn't belong. . .her attack on Gracie's launch plan for the wine looked not only unprofessional but bitchy and stoopid. Luci tried to play nice later with that pitiful little speech she gave. And yes, Kirby, her and Miguel's drooling looks were nauseating. Gracie showed her how to really do "nice/nasty". I hate to admit it but agree with y'all that Grace did shine in this episode man, she is working these people like there's no tomorrow.
If Gracie gets into David's tight jeans and Miguel gets into Luci's even tighter ones, I don't know how they're going to convince us that David and Luci are end game and I don't know if I want to watch that butt ugliness.
Miguel is all but in Luciana's jeans already and planning to weekend in San Francisco while David hasn't even considered touching Graciela. Lest we forget Luciana never responded to David like she does Miguel and I for one ain't buying her jealously is because she wants Dave. Luciana is just jealous of Graciela period and this a power play.
Tofie, they're making it hard for me to root for Luciana. I want to but she's acting like a loud-mouthed, undisciplined 12 year old. She's too much like Perla and Carito in maturity level. Maybe it would help if they showed her doing more real work but then, NObody does any of that.
My comment about Gracie getting in David's tight jeans was because of a little snippet I saw in the previews. I think Gracie is going to show David some of her other assets. Big or otherwise, brother man ain't "known" a woman for a while and, uh, well. .maybe it could be soon.
My comment about Gracie getting in David's tight jeans was because of a little snippet I saw in the previews. I think Gracie is going to show David some of her other assets. Big or otherwise, brother man ain't "known" a woman for a while and, uh, well. .maybe it could be soon.
I'm fine with Luciana not wanting David for whatever reason but she kinda acted like she did and he believed it but she has now proven otherwise. It looks like she was just playing with the guy knowing he would defer to her every time. Now that David has accepted it she better not start up again with this confused crap to pull him back in.
Is it common in Spanish culture for a sister to 'take one for the team' and stand in for a dead sister with the lonely kids and hot hubby? The sacrifice Gracie is willing to make underneath that porcelain doll exterior. Oh, she what? Huh? Wait, She what? Oh, Oh my. She didn't.
Oh that changes things doesn't it?
:-)
Tofie: Right again. Just looking more and more like an old fashioned cat fight over territory.
Oh that changes things doesn't it?
:-)
Tofie: Right again. Just looking more and more like an old fashioned cat fight over territory.
Lila said: maybe it could be soon.
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I still think that LUci and Dave are supposed to end up together. She just seems pissed all. the. time., and Dave seens sad all. The. Time, and Miguel seems hopelessly devoted all. The. Time, and Gracie seems cleverly scheming all. The. Time....etc.
I am not invested in any of these people...except maybe Miguel ..because...he seems to know what he wants and seems truly in love with Luci.
As to the tight jeans..I am still missing SWeet WIlliam LEvy's famous wet, white jeans from La Tempest..now those were JEANS.
I am not invested in any of these people...except maybe Miguel ..because...he seems to know what he wants and seems truly in love with Luci.
As to the tight jeans..I am still missing SWeet WIlliam LEvy's famous wet, white jeans from La Tempest..now those were JEANS.
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Yah, Susanlynn.. . .I did love that show. Didn't think Willy was my type but he won me over. Oh yah.
Lila..YEs, exactly the same for me. I prefer the dark haired galans ..Fernando Colunga, Marcelo Cordoba, and Big ED Yanez. I liked William in that show, but I really liked him after I heard about his life and watched him on Dancing with the Stars. I wonder what he is doing now .
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