Monday, July 31, 2017

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Jenni Rivera, Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraiso, El Señor de los Cielos & más: Week of July 31, 2017

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays at 3:00 PM and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Corazón Valiente
• 12-2PM—Volver a Amar
• 8-9PM—Jenni Rivera: Mariposa de Barrio
• 9-10PM—Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraiso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos

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"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

LXV: How are you doing ?

Bill C: This TN always upping the ante!
 

Hi all, just checking in to say "¡hola!". I've not been following any novelas lately, but I'm still posting the page alternately with Juanita. I don't have TV during the summer, but will probably pick up whatever is at 9PM in the fall.

 

LXV: What's wrong with your TV during the Summer ?

I live in CST here in San Antonio, TX (2:22 PM right now).
 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

Bill C: Awaiting your recap from last night!
 

jENNI"

gOD THAT GIRL WAS DOGGED WITHIN THA MACHO BULL SH*Y MUSIC CULTURE....NO WONDER WOMEN ARE NOT really presented!!

she also leaves her children with a man that beat her ass on a regular basis...

little brother is in jail on cocaine charge.

little sister is beginning to exhibit emotional traumic PTSD by acting act sexual and drug use, her parent didnt have a clue
 

SIN SUENOS`~

OK !!

telemundo/THEY have a great 90 minute recap.. awesome...really does hits the important points

-god I didnot know that little demon child was the pervert creepo lawyer's child!!
god that explains a lot!!

..creepy lawyer also knew catalina grande -was alive the whole time..!!! he told the truth when diabla had him in jail!!!

Jota knew/ knows all along that she is alive /caltalina virginia/what the heck!!

virginia sabatoged her parent visa attempt???!!
hope not!!

The SADDEST.. the Paula setup was deep, they filled her up with ballons of dope ,then they dropped a dime!!

why, because she knew too much?? about how diabla set up and burnt down marciel..

this great back story...no wonder her daughter was turned out/ pimped out/ lefted to the wolves.

The NERVE OF Dad....kneeling before the crypt of CatalinaGrande..telling her she wasa the love of his life!!!WTF!!!;

VIRGINA HAS A NEW LIFE IN FLORIDA....she is between two men in her life..I AM TEAM DEA /TEA guy, i notice doctors on these shows ,DON'T GET NO PLAY!!

VIRGINA had some bs job run by a bs boss.. the man was an pig, so she had to quit but she finally decided to up her game....
 

SIN:

Marcial is really suffering in jail, he thinks he will miss her daughter's childhood

thank goodness..he is beginng to recognize and realized diabla ,dogged and burnt the crap out of him!!

Tito has his back.. that's his boy, he's holding it down, and on point... cause they on lockdown for the long haul. so you gotta have eyes wide open while they are doing time....

Yessinia is smart enough to review her assessts...she is on paperwork mission

Diabla is losing her mind trying to find those marriage certificate / license...

I see Gato was her bottem-man, he did everything to set up the business,

i think he thought was going to wrap that coochie-up[ lock it down /make a claim on diabla's stuff ]..

can a man be that egotistic,,,stupid..horney ???

i am interested to see how diabla is going to screw/lay/ sex service, her way up the distribution ladder..over the top of bloody corpses
remember she gets excited on blood and money and death..she is sadistic freak..

she has to renegotiate and survive meeting.. with all possible distributiors and suppliers and contracts..with psychopathes,sociopathes,sadistic killers and greedy avarice personalities...

so she should do well.. yep..these are her peoples!!!!

then to maintain dominance...eventualy..because she has to eliminate these competitors!!

i love this back story series.. because....even the colomibia series..was Catalina's youth[ you can order on line]

the movie was stupid soft porn...but in all show versions: was the fact that Catalina was lowdown hooker by the end of her life,,

She first ,got caught up in the game because as a teenage, she had very little morals when it came to money..

.she was more than willing to prostitute herslf for fast money to get titties/breat implants...and get a rich narco boss to maintain her in the lifestyle she desired !!

she was much too stupid to work this hustle with any kind of strategy, and decorim,

as a result she got played abd played out fast, of course.. yessina made sure she was passed around for cheap...

She lucked up when she met Capo Maricel, but was too stupid to appreciate it and do him right...[ instead of playing it cool and working along-con,] she decides to rip him off..

she did love TITI.., he could have claimed her as his women ,they got along like house on fire..

she played her self out.. she was not the brightess bulb in the lamp....Yesinia had her pegged from the start...
 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

Bill C: Have you've gotten your TV fixed ?
 

LXV:
HOW U DOING?!HOPE !! you will recapped 'SIN SUENOS' ...thank you!!!!

Steve: I follow some SENOR..any kind of recaps or overview,will help a lot/

dude:can you do some overview of SIN SUENOS..feel free..


 

When you're normally trying to do this during lunch and then you get things to do effectively dragging that out, things just get...annoying. But not as annoying as for Victor "Evil Greg Brady" Casillas, I suppose.

El Señor de los Cielos: martes, or

Break The Wall(s) Down

So in Monday's episode we saw Felina and her only living ex, Raimundo, sortakinda mending fences over the child they lost 25 years ago (which roughly places their being a thing at the period where Chema Venegas was just coming up in the drug world). Here, while they're at least having drinks with each other, Felina's still pissed at him--mostly because during his self-imposed exile he never took the chance to contact her in any way. Ray tells her he didn't want to put her in any danger, presumably from the unidentified guys who went after him back in the day. Felina isn't crazy with that excuse, especially after she accuses him of turning on the other members of the Cali cartel and getting a DEA deal out of it...which he constantly denies. He just tried to look out for himself, he claims, while the other cartel members turned on each other. "Yeah, after you sold them out," Felina retorts.

Speaking of our friends at the DEA: Salazar drops in at his favorite watering hole for an after-work drink and runs into Colon, who apparently had the same idea before he did. Colon, who can't pass up a chance to be prickly, notes that Salazar has surprisingly refined taste in booze (single malt whiskey) for a DEA agent; Salazar reminds him that he was an ambassador first, and all those diplomatic meetings helped refine his palate. Colon actually shows a sense of humor and laughs at that--even the guerrillas enjoy that sort of thing, he notes, and are probably having more fun than they are. And he toasts the "Latin American Left" with Salazar before heading back to the office to grab his things.

When he gets back to the office he finds Juan Carlos Salvatierra waiting for him. Juan notes a guard let him in, and asks to speak to Colon directly; more accurately, he makes him an offer--$200,000 for Colon to tell him where Esperanza is, or at least if she's indeed in the Witness Protection Program. Colon for his part continues to deny that Esperanza is a person of interest, which Juan actually shuts down cold: if she was indeed involved in high-level money laundering, he declares, there's no way she'd not still be a person of interest. Juan insists that he just wants to know that Esperanza's okay--every man has their price, according to him, and his is his daughter. Colon would understand if he had kids, Juan notes, but being a CIA agent he's apparently so cynical he never had any (and possibly never got married--I'm fuzzy on how CC3 handled this).

Colon is briefly impressed that Juan Carlos apparently investigated him, but still insists that he doesn't know where Esperanza is...right before he tells Juan Carlos to GTFO before he has him arrested for attempted bribery.

- Pilar found some coke and a needle while rummaging through cupboards in the previous episode, so in this one she's set to mainline it--rubber band around the arm and all--but manages to stop herself at the last second and toss it away. But she's still a nervous wreck, so she calls Felina to tell her what happened; Felina compliments her on her self-control, though she does note that she'll see a lot more drugs as things go on with their business.
 

El Señor de los Cielos: martes (2)

- Zoe, who decided to take Esperanza back a couple of episodes ago because she's so sprung on her, is banging said Esperanza in her (Esperanza's) house in a borderline fuzzy-filtered music video-ish bit. Afterwards, while they're lounging in bed, Esperanza gets a phone call which she obviously wants to ignore...but Zoe figures she needs to get it so they stop calling. Which she probably subconsciously regrets, since the call's from Salazar; he's still at the bar, and he tells Esperanza outright that she should call her parents. Oddly, he doesn't really go into detail about their inquiring about her--but that's secondary, since the minute Esperanza says Salazar's name Zoe instantly goes "Okay, your ex is calling again--fork this!" and launches herself out of bed and gets dressed.

Esperanza manages to stop Zoe before she gets out of the house, but Zoe's over being lied to by her would-be boo about her past relationships--especially since she said she wouldn't lie to her again earlier that night, before they boinked. And Esperanza decides to run with that--so she tells Zoe that "Martha Alarcon" is really Esperanza Salvatierra, in the Witness Protection Program, and that Salazar is DEA (but not why she was in WPP to begin with).

That faint ticking noise you hear? Yeah, that's Zoe's deathwatch.

- Ismael briefly checks in with Alba; he's back at Rancho Casillas with Carmen, the late Nazareno's widow, and they're staying there for a day or so.

- Aurelio, after bidding farewell to Super Javi previously, shows up at Felina's place in the middle of the night. Felina introduces him to Ray, who basically goes "Mexican narcos suck" to Aurelio's face. In the subsequent verbal sparring Aurelio threatens Ray at least three times, declaring that hey--those Mexican narcos helped his Colombian narco friends when the Cali cartel imploded, right? Ray's still not impressed (that said, Rafael Novoa is underplaying Ray so far as so damn stoic that the most interesting thing about him is his beard), and Felina manages to keep them from at least trying to shoot each other; it's her house, she declares, and everybody can speak their mind there as long as they're respectful of each other.

Naturally, this leads to an all-night aguardiente session between the three of them. Booze: the great communicator. The following morning, though, Ray and Aurelio are still (if more casually) sniping at each other's country's narcos; Aurelio notes that his faction helped "Pablito" Escobar out, after all. Ray for his part notes that while Pablo was alive he was "the boss," but now that he's dead he's Pablito and crap and now Aurelio's going to claim he even knew Pablo...

Aurelio: "...actually, yeah, I did know Pablo. Worked with him, too."

This technical epic mic drop kinda gets torpedoed after five seconds when Aurelio notes that if he'd helped Pablo out with that one favor he asked him way back when--to help get his family out of Colombia--Pablo might still be alive today. (Or at least until Aurelio had him killed, considering his general track record.)

- Bizarro Pena Nieto's still having dinner with Jaime the Slimay (alliteration, people!), and it actually looks like his plan to distract...I guess?...Bizarro Gaviota is working. Jaime's playing down the dead hooker "gossip" and playing up the whole "lonely man-slut" thing with just enough charm that Gaviota's a little bit into it--probably with a boost from her being so over BPN himself right now.

- Evil Greg Brady is still hanging out at Rutila's, even inviting her to the grand opening of the Dandy Wolf. Rutila's not crazy about hanging out at a "whorehouse," but decides to ask Sebastian if he'd like to go and take her. We'll come back to them in a minute.
 

El Señor de los Cielos: martes (3)

Monica, after her **1/2 match with Baby Girl in the previous episode, managed to find a hairpin in the Blaxploitation Nightmare Suite and...yup, of course she manages to pick the lock on the door. She then grabs a black wig and a coat and sneaks out (although it should be noted that she just jams the wig on her head before leaving the room, but one or two scene changes later it's perfectly fitted and even sporting a fashionable combover style), having to pick a second lock before she makes it to the floor of the club part of the place.

Skinny and Baby Girl, meanwhile, are hanging around on the club floor with Filemon (the beefier one of Victor's henchmen). Baby Girl is still consistently anti-Monica, since she's been taking up all of Victor's attention...but when Filemon claims that perhaps this means that she's "going to start playing for the right team," Baby Girl threatens to beat his ass. She's not in love with Victor (so she claims), but she's totally loyal to him. At that point, she and Skinny head off to bring Monica some food...and discover that she escaped.

At about the same time, Helmet Hair Pastrana--his hair is a bit less helmet-ish, but it's still kind of fugly--and Ruben the henchman/lawyer, plus the Russian nightclub owners/pimps and some goons from the previous episode, show up outside the Dandy Wolf. They're going to destroy it. How?

1. Quietly kill guards outside side entrance.
2. Kill guards and a couple of clubgoers outside main entrance to cause panic/distract people.
3. Pour gasoline on ground/red carpet by aforementioned entrances and set them on fire (with a lighter and a $100 bill, respectively, proving that perhaps the Russians were too stupid to have their own stable of prostitutes and Victor perhaps did them a favor).
4. Wait for this to somehow cause things inside the club to spontaneously explode and set people on fire.
5. ???
6. Profit.

Okay, we're suddenly in a bad 80s action show. Let's go with this. Suddenly those little fires outside caused multiple fires and smoke all over the place inside, the odd doomed redshirt is running around literally on fire, and Monica ends up clocking another of Victor's henchmen outside the room where Ramon's being held. Good girl, though, she went straight for her work hubby. She ends up in a standoff with Skinny and Baby Girl, though, when they catch up to her...just before the fire alarms start going off (which hilariously is after the first explosion inside the club), and they end up leaving her there and making a break for it. Monica shoots the lock out of the door, and frees Ramon and her other henchmen and they make their own break.

Skinny and Baby Girl make it outside (after shooting the lock on a fire door, and why am I not surprised that this place apparently has lousy fire safety precautions), and Skinny finally calls Victor to let him know that somebody torched the Dandy Wolf. Victor inevitably goes from zero to "What about Monica?!?" freakout in about four seconds, which is accompanied by a too-brief shot of Skinny and BG almost literally going "...dammit, I knew we forgot something."

Victor then, with Rutila in tow, damn near teleports back to the club--but not before the fire department shows up, along with apparently one news crew (Helmet Hair is inevitably watching the whole thing unfold on TV back at his hotel room/condo/whattheforkever). He gets the skinny, such as it is, from Skinny about Monica having escaped but then their losing track of her once the fire started; Victor straight up tries to run into the club to find her, but gets held back by about three people. So he decides on Plan B: he and his crew, plus Rutila, zip around to another side entrance (which looks like the same one the Russians set on fire earlier, but it's curiously fire-free) and try and fail to force it open.
 

El Señor de los Cielos: martes (4)

This is where a police cruiser pulls up, and where Victor subsequently gets an idea. An epically goofy idea. He hops in the cruiser after the cops run off, and then pulls a Knight Rider and drives it through the wall of the club. Voila, new doorway. Unfortunately, he only leaves it parked about four feet into the building (versus driving it all the way to the dance floor...budget concerns, you know) before hopping out and dashing into the club to find his--we should probably put that in quotes--woman. He runs into a pair of firefighters, who insist that he get out of the place since the roof is about to collapse (still in 80s action show mode, okay)...

Right before Skinny randomly pops up, drags us into 90s action show territory, and arbitrarily blows them away.

By the time you will have stopped laughing at the mindblowing forkery of all this, Monica and Ramon and her other henchman (who succumbs to smoke inhalation and gets dropped like a bag of cement) will have avoided one "backdraft" situation, tried and failed to save at least two people running around on fire (that's mostly Monica, since Ramon is initially dragging her around going "Come on, patrona, you can't save them!"), and ultimately managed to find Filemon (who'd somehow been stuck in the club while Skinny and Baby Girl bailed). While Filemon in theory tried to point them towards an exit, the three of them end up wandering through the smoke-filled club until Ramon and Filemon both collapse from inhalation--and as Monica's trying to rouse either of them, she notices someone coming through the smoke towards her. Unfortunately, it's Baby Girl...
 

SENOR:
BILL:
OH NO !!MR.BILL!!THANK YOU

Mi Girl,FELINA DROP A phitload of cash on Aurelio, when does he goes to legit businesses.??. if he does now ?what are they??

Aurelio has the ball to hit on girl friend in front of her ex husband.. WTF!! but ,then she pulled a radical fem move and asked them both to bed[ pimp sandwich] , they declined..
what's the problem, hey what's good for the goose is good for the gander..

Considering ,all freakin these men have been doing on these series..its your turn to eat it!!

Psycho= Baby Girl ,really hates monica ,but,Can they outrun cops is the next question. can they not kill each other is the next..

but the corrupt presidente is holding me on pins & needles.. having this charactor is killing me, he is really interesting..i am loving the subtext of poltical collusion .

i see my cable has a recap of the first [what] five years ,90minutes,
tha's my next show I will watch with my husband ...

cause i am not a big NACRO-CAPO-JEFFE .. But my man likes to relax with this genre...
 

Jenni:
Jenni has new man, Juan and he sleeps in hos parents basement and can not hold a job!!

lord girl, can you at least check a dude out first...

but what was a NIGHTMARE....was the scene with Trino bathing the daughter before he was carrying into the bedroom for sex...the look of terror on that child's face was really, heartbreaking!!
ISSSUES:
this show has whitewashed the extent of the Pediophile abuse...the scene are cut to death and presented just incidentally and within a flash, if you were not aware of the tremendous sexual assualt of the children [ all of them] in that house...your really wouldn't get it or observe,conscious of or pay attention, it was too superfically handled...

Jenni: her parents have children that are going to hell in a hand basket..
 

Sin Senos eps#5

Diabla. inretrospect, is at the beginning of her career.. she is paying off law unenforcement,,her distributors are happy, the dirty money is flowing in !!

However virgina has hit up her main distributor...but dope moves on and on and on

..time passes a lot...

Jota contacts virginia/catalina grande, 20 years later...after the bomba.
He relays how he could have called her years ago!! ya thunk it!!

-somehow he gets the idea ,she can help..because he is scared of danila???
i think they are pushing daniela up to carry the legacy..for how many series??? super series!!!

-with the feds..-we see virgina in her milieu, an federal agency in america in the shortest dress ever made??

-the feds think diabla is dead?? but they support their recuits: Marciel and titi, are in the loop.because they have street creds./ criminal to catch a thief...

-the next scene rehashes the diabla as ghost and still running game.but the grave yard,casket/tomb-dig-out is in the works..

-then flash forward: Virgina tells her doctor husband that she is rolling out and he threatens divorce..they have two grown children as well.
Nevertheless:-She bounces,

... the grown ups are in the process of cadaver reveal. and the feds are getting ther operation in order.

-virgina is meeting with brokers for a regular- sting..but virgina blew the cover -off the process and hurried the arrest..

-i had to wrap this up..i'm out.She had to cut and run because she is on a mission to get home..

It all wraps up with the escape the chase..etc..the death of many watermelons!!

some how they still evaded an army of prey...the cops, the posse,nmarciel's boys, our group of heros??WTF!!

...diabla had her game together, why we did not see tunnels ?!.. then the appearance of Catalina Grande...some how diabla manage to ditch daniela...

Let the beat down begin...but when Yessica heard the DEA was abt to extridite her ass her eyes balls almost popped out!!

Marcial.. went for the recooping the money!!

daniela has no recourse,no daddy drugwar bucks to fall back on..she may not be in jail ,but she is destitute!!

hilda and abierto take a tour of their new home. the decor from hell... yessina had no class ,,sorry,she could have hired a decorator for god sakes!!she had the money






 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS"

Bill C: Rivero getting confrontational with BPN tells me Rivero's days on this Earth are likely numbered. Garcia is still in prison for something she never did.

1.) Does Ritula know Sebastian is with the DEA ?

2.) Esperanza calling her Daddy (who's now in Los Angeles, CA) from Boulder, CO.

3.) I'll take my chances of Monica taking down Baby Girl. What about Skinny Girl ROFLOL ?


 

Sin senos#6

The house belong to them/cat -baby ,but it has to be claimed!! the thought of staying in grandma house, is yuck!! think dead bodies!!

the feds have daniela, but virgina releases her?after declaring her as one of the poor...please dont curse the 'poor' to defer that name on that devil-in- training.. is awful!

They all move into a refurbished diabla house... i must say it looks great.. a decorator has been there!!

la diabla see little diablita just before she is wisked to jail.. and begs for consideration!!!

supplication: hell no ! time for Karma is a total itch =bey!!

Real time: the colonial and exhusband are trying to cover their ass, and plotzing!!

they think they can get Yessica murdered in jail..ok?!?!


Teh family is reflecting on the future and daniela rollls up and chuky has to let her know what the deal is ,when she see little cata,she likes to blow a gasket//marcial lets her know the deal...
so daniela call her step dad... but the show is over..!!dea is in the house!!that's a wrap!!




 

SIN SENOS #7

Daniela sleeps on the patio of grandma,Diabla is getting her ass whup by a nasty marimacho-jailbird-capo-bit+h.

baby Cata , gets driving leson, her parents still treat her like child?? and , her mom is tripping ...really!

the whole,barrio see daniela sleeping on the patio, and Baby Catalins friend and mothers and jota are very surprised,

but jota has sympathy for that girl and for his attitude, his wife has to put him in check.. cause sympathy has to be for those who deserve it!!

Vanessa is fed up with him.Then baby Cata rolls up in daniela's customized ride... girl.. is was too much!! danny lost it!!jota you are coddling a nesting snakette.

The family , it's time to go to the probate court..and get claim titles done, and done!!NOT!! WRENCH in the works coming!!???

Virginia has to testify in court ,so her anonymity is blown.

the henchmen,Clavo is alive, the mayor is the new boss...

jota , doesnt get it:
... you can't forgive someone who has not yet,repented!! and especially one, whom,has not asked for forgivness!!


Vulture circling.. pimp intraining, Martina,eye-spies her and try to bring daniela to TiTi?? for what ? a hustle? yes the dope business!
 

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