Monday, January 01, 2018

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Hasta que te Conocí, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Jan 1, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays at 3:00 PM and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla*
• 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego*
• 8-9PM—Hasta que te Conocí
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

* both morning shows are preempted on Monday this week


Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Comments:
Sangre

Hombre de Misterio, so nice to see your post,

interesting point about cell phones, they actually have to be written into the story similar to a character, which you mentioned, or written out like in "Doña Bárbara".

but they just wouldn't have the Glam at the awards show.

 

"SANGRE":

Deb: Happy 2018!

LXV: How was your Christmas & New Years holiday break ?
 

JUAN GABRIEL

this family is falling apart..
Iam sorry but the sister was wrong to discourage having the baker and his wife adopt Alberto,

...in the end that child suffered, the big sister should have loved him enough to let him have a future out of dirt floor poverty

..then worst... and to take him to the convent school, that was worst!!
the nuns lost him!!

the mother was abused at the Senoras house and at the bar, she had no life

my show !!!

 

JUAN GABE

THESHOW HAS J.G., reviewing his life in flashbacks

this poor child was constantly lost and wandering the streets

he was found by a cat lady who dressed him as a baby clown, to earn pennies and he did

his sister and mother were frantic looking for him at least his sister was.??

he was recovered

then he suffer pneumonia,

then he was lost and neglected by hos brother,

but this child loved to dance and music

his mother was run down by hard labor

his 'PlAY AUNT ' came back into his life and took him in!!

how he survived is a miracle!!


 

juan gabe

Correction

he didn't move with his Play aunt, he was admitted into state service residential??

what was his mother thinking?

Where was the sister, who fought to keep him home ,she abandoned him!!

Eventually, she went on to live her life with her husband and that spelled the end of his personal/ attentive care.

I have feelings abt his sister, she was the one who blocked his adoption with the baker.

Then, she swore his was too young to leave home when he was three,

but two years later,, he is dumped in state care??!!

In the end mother was not able and really had no desire ,to care for him but in the most minimum manner..

it breaks your heart to see this lonely baby, fend off older boys and fend for his personhood,in a cruel world..

he might have been better off with the cat lady!!!!


 

Sangre#21

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
reup reflection

Poor Serena, you peeped ‘Roberto game! And Gee- whiz, you were the one who Pushed Him on Aurora in the first place !!
Paloma ,has ‘peeped Roberto’s game as well, especially regarding that house[ on-the-hill] situation.

DEB:
Yes!! Talk your your wage thief, yes!! Girl, where are your receipts!!

Yes! Those grapes came with a big price and Crissantos is cool with it if he ‘can screw[?] Natalia.The reservoir issue, Rob and Cris jumped on that like demons, [Sabotage/Saba-too-gee] but to no avail…’

Natalia girl, you have protection! ….’No weapons- shall- prosper- against- you”, those land elements are doing their job… can I borrow your garden gnome!!!

Juanita:
Juanjo and Serena!! Go for it!! I like them together!!! Where are the condoms and birth control!! Not to be seen, then there will be a baby coming!!!More fuel for the fire…

Nett:
You are on the money abt Mr. Bob’s, jealousy and intrusive behavior, obsession is too nice a term, I had to rewatch and you are right, it’s the damn Spanish Inquisition!!!

But the psycho knows how to play it off , espec . with the pair of new Vans -sneakers !! it’s a slick move!!Kiss/kick-kiss-kick!!!! oh hell! yea!!GAS LIGHTING !! oh yes!!

Juanjo cannot rescue Aurora, she must handle this one herself… or take out a restraining order!!!

Worried! very worried!! How the heck, did Rob, think that woman was going to just sit in a locked, house with baby and not try to get out??The neighbor is just as crazy [or horny] as Rob! That women have been giving play -by-play, abt Aurora in minute detail, she is too nosey!!Yes, Sara is a spy!!!

yes!!Suppose a fire broke out?? The poor service man, he is doing his job…was there any hanky panky??...soft sound of 1970’s sax playing…!! No !just some poor dude, who we will, never see again, unless, Rob, locks her up!!

Robert and the bike, no comment, Juanjo ...knows the man is thrown!!

Anita pregnant!!! Thank you !! Jesus!! Luis! you the man!!
Paco, you the grandpa!!! How about that big daddy!! You are officially old , so deal with it!!Forget about doing, any more.’ joint’... with Paloma!!


Robert ,watching Aurora and Juanjo in the water sports , went into some sort of mental fugue ...it put him over the edge…, those ,new vans, betrayed him ,so into the trash you go!!!

Thus, the lockup!!!Aurora ,you have betrayed me ,so, into solitary confinement …!!
You go into detention. You are trash like these dirty sneakers!!
Sick- crazy -sick and sliding fast into the danger zone...

Now, the man has a broke foot, and like any husband, in pain or sick, Wife, you get to play [be]Momma.
Natalia, expect to have to wait on him, hand and foot, trust me!!
Momma!! I need something to eat, Momma !!I need a pillow, Momma Turn to ESPN, the eagles are playing!!!


 

SANGRE #23-
HAPPY NEW YEAR!! THANK YOU, Lord!!

Yes! Rob is robbing Peter to hustle Paul, he is skimming fund, left and right, yes !!that was Serena’s $10grand he stole!!

WINE CONFERENCE:
Aurora, is fed up with Rob, blowing up the phone, she doesn’t owe him nothing but an ass whupping!

The man is interfering with her business & having a somewhat,normal social life ..Come on !Bob…hounding her to distraction... a husband that calls you day and night, is too much.

Besides she knew the whole event was going to be projected/broadcasted /live streamed... on social media. It’s not like she is getting it- on- the- sneak -tip!!

Anon:
Deep dish! Yes priceless!! The man is cray cray!!

The conferences near miss with psycho ,Robert was a clever, very clever twist in the narrative…too cute!!

I liked the way the writers keep the cat dangling before the blow up, because Rob is gone! way gone!I swore his pupils turned black like a monster, vampire??

Because ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!! Robert has left us.

Juanita:

Meche, ???who had the baby when dude took off for Chi-town??Meche is too blind!!Crisantos is coming around, well ok!! I must have missed the part with Crisanto tells Robert to ‘man-up’!!

Really Cris!! You got a lot of damn nerve, cause big Momma, really don’t play that !!! Just try that ‘macho’ crap on big Momma and watch her reaction to that [ when it comes to her]!!

Robert is a puppy, cause only cowards abuse women.
He won’t confront a dude face to face or stand up to a man and back it up.He tried to kill juanjo, but, on- the- sly!!

Serena, I am rooting for you, I don’t care if Aurora found out abt Ivan, you have skills!! And you have suffered enough in your life…give a poor girl a break!!!

Paloma, kiss that so-fine, Nubian locks, Jordan good bye, and go on with your education.

Your parents, they are probably in for a surprise later. I hope Jordan comes back successful and not married and ya'll hook up!!
Paloma, get off Paco’s jock and get your own man!!

Deb:

Natalia is holding it down, the blending of profits back into the cooperative is smart and creates trust and goodwill!How will they harvest, going to have to wait to see!??

The little black dress!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! incident....WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I DIDN’T EXPECT DUDE to lose it so soon!!!

Has anybody thought that this may be the beginning of a long period of Aurora suffering..' MujerMaltrata'.. as story line…
The beautiful, successful career woman, -mother and friend with the secret of abuse at home….!! suffering in silence to maintain her home and to cover her shame!!!!

Or
She claps back and bounces!! If this chick does not rip another hole in his…!! then, she is marked for death…. cause dude really means to kill her if he cannot keep control….
If I can’t have you, no one will!!!

Then we will see Robert truly devolve ...into animal…
what would the in-laws say and do? will he blame Juanjo and expect ma and pa fall in line with him!!???

 

Sangre

thanks so much Halimacandy, for giving us your comments!

Aurora escapes from the crippled Rob, locks herself in with Emilio, Rob sleeps on the floor outside the door, at first refusing counseling for couples because it's not her with the problem, she later concedes.

Roberto gets Dolores hired, how?, they will pay women less.

I'm wondering if Nat's new super pickers were sent by Roberto, and I am waiting to hear why this is putting Juanjo's family at risk, time to call Susan.

Paco sneaks a look at Jordon's giant pic of Paloma, Mike appears, he crams it back into the tube but crinkles it, alone again he smooths it out, but I think Paloma figures it out.

 

Sangre

Yes Deb...the workers were sent by Rob. We havent seen the backdoor deal yet but he had his usual "up to no good" smirk when discussing the work issue with Chris. And yes they are illegal slave laborers whose presence on Nat' campo is meant to cause her problems.

So Robs fake tears sucked Aurora in..one laat time we hope. Cant say she didnt try when she leaves him for good. The lady with the kids fleed an abusive relationship and found aurora. Guess shes there to point out the obvious for aurora when the time comes.

Chris, Dimas and of of course Rob are ass holes and chovanistic. They think very liltle of women and I cant see anything changing their minds...for real...even when they realize that Rob has screwed them all.

Nett
 

Sangre

Thanks muchly, Halimacandi, deb, and Nett. I don't have much to add. I cheered when Aurora told Roberto he was pathetic and very sick. She also told him not to come near her, that she doesn't recognize him, he's not the man she married. Too bad she finally agrees to go to couples therapy even though the only one needing therapy is Roberto. Nett, I guess you're right, no one will be able to accuse Aurora of not trying hard to save the marriage. Blecch.

I'm not much of a fan of Sara the Spy, but I did feel a bit sorry for her last night. Roberto is playing her, and she's so needy she can't see it. Wait til she finds out!

Nett, I think you're probably right that Roberto is responsible for the capable but cowed grape pickers, but I confess I didn't notice his "up to no good" smirk. Or perhaps I notice it so often that it no longer registers. :-) So if they are illegal, hiring them will cause a problem for Nat? She did look at at least two passports--should she have demanded to examine all of them? Did the boss even have all of them? If the passports are forged, would she still be in trouble?
 

Sangre

Juanita- on Mondays show, yes, Nat only looked at a couple of the passports, or so they showed us, but later when detective Juanjo showed up asking questions, Nat pulled out a folder that had copies of all the passports.

I kind of agree with Nat in they should wait till the harvest is done, it's not their problem and they have no proof, but they also should be arranging for Susan to show up at the compound with a search warrant, Juanjo as usual is always up for a little trouble.

Juanjo calling Sere amiga, put it on the table for her, but she will probably tag along.

Kim is going to Spain.

Leo looked pretty good as Juliet, Sofia as Romeo looks like she is game, I imagine Cris will be there when the curtain rises, (what?, put on a play so they pass their spanish ?? class, this is like Cheech and Chong, took spanish as a second language and got a B, but I guess it's because they haven't been showing up for class)

Rob doesn't want Dolores or her kids around Aurora, put the heat on her to stay away, Cris sends Aurora to the store away from Rob's accounting, men's work.

wow, Rob left his phone in the therapist's office to record his session with Aurora, that's going to twist him big-time.

and the show closes with Rob buying a gun.

 

Sangre

Muchas gracias, deb, for this excellent, speedy recap. You've covered just about all the high points.

So did Roberto want the couples therapist to be a woman? Is the insanely jealous Roberto afraid of Aurora becoming interested in a male therapist? Also, Roberto says he doesn't want to discuss intimate things with his therapist (whom Aurora has contacted). Duh?

It's clear that Rob's jealousy is sick and dangerous. Aurora goes to the store, a guy opens the door for her, and Roberto, waiting in the car, goes bananas. In a rage, he gets out of the car and beats the guy up. And, as you say, at the end of the episode, he's buying a gun "and all the accessories." Look out, Aurora!

Juanjo is determined to help the grape pickers, who are clearly slave labor for their boss. It looks as if his attempt to help Fernando may have gotten him killed. And then Juanjo follows the van carrying the guys, sees one guy tossed from the van, and stops to help him into his car. The van driver sees him do this and makes a u-turn to go after Juanjo's car, gun blazing. (I learned a new word: agachar, to duck (¡Agáchate!, Juanjo keeps saying to the guy he rescued as they speed away from the shooter in the van.)
 

Could someone please tell me what aurora said to the therapist that made Roberto mad

 

Brenda in MD

Reglas del Juego

Is anyone watching this novellla beside me. I need a little help with the backdrop. Who is Romero's father and Juliano' s mother. How is Dante related to the family he visits? Who are these people? A one time synopsis will help greatly. Thank you in advance!
 

Sangre

Grace- hmm, it really wasn't anything real specific, just that she was confirming what he knew, that she was in love with Juanjo and went with Rob to try to forget him, she also told the therapist (though we didn't hear Rob listening to this part) that she married Rob because she was pregnant.

 

Sangre

Grace....I believe Rob heard Aurora confess that he was second best to Juanjo. She said she feels guilty because she married Rob to try to move on from Juanjo. And also because she got pregnant.

Rob wants Dolores away from Aurora mainly because he doesn’t want her to disclose hey salary to Aurora...he told her not to mention pay to Aurora and to stay away from her

While Serena and Juanjo are the more exciting couple...Juan is clear...he cares for her...but she is a friend,,,with benefits I add. He tells her not to compare him to Emilio. While he doesn’t appear to compare Serena to Aurora.,,,Serena doesn’t merit an upgrade from friendprobably cause she’s no Aurora,,,in his eyes. Serena is destined to be heartbroken in the end,

Yeah...the nosy neighbor is going to be a casualty of Robs. I wasn’t betting on him to use her in the manner he appears to be leading up to,,,but she will be a casualt.

I’m conflicted with Nat. I do see her point but she should be more concerned about the welfare of her temp workers. She assumes that their status and plight cant come back to bite her...but I think shes going to be in for a painful surprise, At a minimum she should look into this while the harvesting continues...as Juanjo has decided to do.


Nett
 

SANGRE #24

YES!! EVERYBODY!! WHOA NELLY!!..WTF!!

DEB:
YES!...Aurora is holed up in the nursery. with Robert banging on the door and begging and insisting they talk…. he is screaming and yelling, until she asks him not to awake the baby.

Later …. the man is laid across the baby ‘s door way and falls a sleep…
The next morning, she walks over his form, into the kitchen to feed the baby.

Robert rising, hobbles behind her and he still insist on talking. what talk???

Cray Cray is gaging her reactions and intentions he is crazy, crazy like a fox!

Now, for Goodness sakes:
1] she didn’t leave him after the man had her on her back and raging abt putting on the black dress like she did for other men, she is whoring around with!!

That is a beat down, if ever there was one, …. if, I am a whore, then, you don’t have any front teeth!!!
A woman should never ,EVER,accept that insult ever!!

Girl, he was two second off calling you a $2.00 /two- bit, corner -whore in a black dress!!

2] he was a raving maniac, and she thinks they can therapy their way to a civil, reasonable conversation. exchange and understanding

3] the man had you laid out, on your back, his full weight on top of you, in a clinch,in a grip, on your bed, and one good throttle and you are dead!!
If she had not kicked his bad leg, how far would he have gone….

4] If you must hide your child bedroom, and lock the door because the nutter is out of control, things are way off!!

But the writers of this series are going to make us suffer throughout this shipwreck

His idea of talking --it out, is his venting sh*t and her accepting his tirades…. she will what??

The nut case begs, to talk it out and boohoohoos in front his son[?] like he is the victim …

She gives him the cold eye and tells him not to be pathetic, and ask him about therapy....!!

Aurora, did we learn nothing from the thugs and pimmpette whi tried to rape you!!..some people are evil!!

JUANITA:

Smooth and cold blooded,...Didn’t that psycho switch gears. He forgot that his is crying,heartbroken and bitterly spits out, I hate therapy the man is against me…

Did he forget he was sad and upset, the nutcase, dropped his sad sack -façade,just a little too quick?

For a minute I thought this girl was going to recognize the impossibility of their marriage and tell him to GET THE ...’F***’ OUT of the house!!

I was almost, amazed at how this series was progressing,finally a fresh, modern, real life…But why or why did I think that was ever a possibility!

Back to the madness!!. She is afraid of him and doesn’t trust him, ok???

PUT HIS @!!#$%% …ASS OUT!!WHAT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION!!??? I DO NOT GET IT!!
Aurora ,honey child, you really do not have a clue of the danger you are in!! This is case for the police, not the therapist, you cannot help a person that assaulted you without them serving some jail time!!

But she and Robert must go Way Way back, so she believes he is a basically good person??!!

ANON:
*****alert! ****
Roberto was the one who sent the HUMAN TRAFICERS TO NATALIA!!!!!

Later, Aurora heads to big momma and comes to recognize that her mother didn’t have a clue…

Meche, acts like divorce is never an option, and save your marriage at all cost…Really!!!!


 

Thanks
 

Thank you
 

SANGRE #25

Aurora had to make Meche understand, she was her child, not Rob, …...’So stop nagging me abt; taking care of my man.
Messy!!

Sara, the Horney spy is more than ready to wait on Roberto…hand and foot, this chick is ‘THIRSTY’!!

.. ROBERTO THROWS HER A FEW CRUMPS AND SHE LAPS IT UP!!

He gave her a few verbal strokes, because he has no intention of making advances [ laying pipe] on that chick, but the whiff of his thinking- he -may -kind- of -look -at -her like a woman …’let’s keep these visits a secret’……...has the chick in a tizzy... ‘as if’…

Paloma knows something is wrong with Aurora, but Aurora defends her privacy

Later that day she comes home with the homeless lady and when they arrive, Sara the spy and Roberto are hitting the grape …

Yes! chauvinist pigs!!!!Back at the job, Aurora had to stand her ground with her dad and assert, her privileged as a partner to hire help…. Guess not!!

Her dad pontificates on his status as owner and patriarch [ is all up in his bullsh+t] and demands that she kowtow to his edicts,

Today was not the day for this, Aurora quit on principle[GP] and takes the lady and kids to her house for a meal and support.

Aurora, ain’t no slouch, she dug the scene as soon as she saw 'THIRSTY SARA’.....'so, that’s who has been taking just good care of you…'

Back at the office, Roberto conflaggles the dad into rehiring Aurora and the lady Dolores?

He is trying to earn brownie points with Aurora…all the while, wage stealing from Dolores!!

A single mother with two children to feed!! Crisanto, Dimas and Roberto laugh at their arrogance and miserliness. They are going to pay!!!

JUANITA:

#25//OMG... ROB is over the edge ,he committed assault on ['sucker punched] the poor gas stop guy!! and gives him a beat down !! where the CC camera???
he cold cocked him on the sneak tip!!

Then,to round out a great day,he goes to torture poor Dolores and how soon before he assaults the poor woman?????

BACK IN THERAPY:

the therapist must suspect by now, dude is nuts[ a danger to himself and others]
!! troubled!! he has been listening, he understands the depth of this obsession,when cray cray ,came back to retrieve the phone!!!

....did the therapist realize what happen...??






CRAY CRAY LIKE A FOX, pulled a dopefiend move with the phone, NOW HE KNOWS ABT THE BABY!!

THE BABY is in danger!!! OMG!!

 

Hasta J.G.

This show had me crying the whole episode.The abuse this child had to managed ,it explains his flat emotional affect and how he absorbed pain..!

He had to survive in jail enviro..the boys there Preyed on the smaller kids
and for some reason these bigger [dangerous] boys had control of the one male adult ,who was suppose to be the authority?? what kind of control or relationship did they have over an adult??

Albert lost friends and family during this time,...between 5 to 8 years, he experience a lot of physical and I am assuming sexual abuse during this period..
But,he was a scapper and stood up for his self and never accepted a beat down..

Victoria abandoned him during these years, then his sister began her family and he felt like her pregnancy was a betrayal, and he was correct ,she was np longer able to give him attention and visit as often..

He began his interest in music and he declared it saved his life!!
he met his mentor and teacher , the old man that came into his life...help save his life and gave him purpose!!

I think he escaped the residential and comes home....


 

Sangre

Halimacandi, I enjoyed your remarks, but there's one thing I'm not sure about. Toward the end of your remarks, you say that "NOW HE KNOWS ABT THE BABY!!" and that because he knows, the baby is now in danger. I'm under the impression that Roberto and Aurora decided together to get married when she learned she was pregnant. I think that she told this to someone, perhaps to her mother. If I'm right, then what Roberto hears on her phone isn't news to him. Even if I'm mistaken about his already knowing this, why would finding this out make him want to harm the baby? The time frame made it clear, I think, that Emilito is Roberto's baby, not Juanjo's. Have I misunderstood what you said? Am I mistaken about the time frame?
 

Sangre

Sooo, I was wrong about Leo being gay. Seems he has no problem with women, as long as he's dressed like one. I sure hope his girlfriend gets on board with the whoel cross-dressing thing, because she seems nice and he's going to need the support when his father finds out he's not a dumb macho jerk like said father.

Tamaulipas is from Chiapas? Is Tamaulipas a real name or can I make fun of the bad guys for being bad as picking nicknames? I take my joy where I can. At least Susan is on the case now.

Aurora is making me mad. She shouldn't have lied to Roberto about being with Juanjo in Chicago. Tell him the truth and that he needs to stop being a controlling, manipulative jerk or the marriage is over. Why keep trying with this guy? She's good at her job (I assume). She could get another one away from her psycho husband and jerk father.

Kelly
 

Sangre 1-3-17

So we finally know Leo's true identity...assuming what we know is all there is. And what a girlfriend. I guess it all depends on how open and free he wants to be.

I think i missed something in the gardening scenes. I'm guessing that Roberto was behind them but couln't tell if he found the flash drive.

Matias gave Aurora all she needs but she really needs to share this info with other people. Roberto's clearly not above detaining his wife.

Spanish Student
 

SANGRE

JUANITA:

My bad!! that baby daddy is Roberto..??!! ok!!

Dang that is too bad!! sorry to hear this!!

Shucks!! I was hoping it was Juanjo's from the jail visit get-down..

too bad, Aurora is stuck with that psycho for 18 years,

thanks a bunch!!

Relief-exhale!! [ a little ]ok!! that poor baby might have a chance .

That is ,until nutso decides to take his son and split run from the cops !!maybe just saying!!

 

JUAN GABRIEL

Two hanky episodes.

This episode was the crux of the series…

The child Albert ,had to mature and navigate ,his way around abandonment, abuse and neglect since his was 3years old!!
.
The ‘PLAY AUNT’... had to Guilt Trip the mother into visiting the poor child.By then we realize she had no affection for him. Victoria was a cold blooded bit*h… sorry its true !!

Child prodigy:
He was able to develop his musical talent and the school gave him enough education that he was able to write his poems, compositions and original songs. He won recognition as a small child for his vocal talent.

The maestro, Mr. Juan, taught him guitar and violin, as well as supported his attempt to live outside the institution. Tribunal all right: the concentration camp for orphans.

After his escape from children's hell:
At some point the mentor found him and took him to his mother, She rejected him outright, Victoria was so cold blooded abt it, that you realize this was this woman nature, it was not the poverty…

The mentor asks for permission to house him and provide training apprenticeship. Thank god, Albert was a natural sales person.

Alberto, begun a new phrase in his life when he joined a Baptist church with American parishioners.
They taught him gospel based musicality…he was absorbed into this missionary family and travel with them to the U.S.A.

Gabe participated in the missionary Baptist choir, he stayed with the church and was housed with an African family.

However, his English was limited, and he was beginning to accept his sexual fluid identity. He realized all of which would have cause problems in the future with this very conservative Black Amer. family.

He observed enough of African American family life as well as single black mothers .He admired their commitment to rearing their children against all odds!

His exposure to American life and different cultures was voiced in his regret in not being born to a ‘black mother ...A Black mother, who would have taken care of him and never abandon him’!!

It was very poignant and sentimental observation that luminates, he was becoming aware of how Victoria didn’t have any real excuse to neglect him, other than her alcoholism and mean spiritness!!


From this time on, he began saying he had no mother

He returns to Juarez and then to his village, where Victoria had return due to illness..too DAMN mean to die! Somehow..The older brother Luis was able to reclaim their farm.

Albert, was not use to hard field labor, so he had a hard time adapting to farm life, he couldn’t assimilate or relate to small town life or his family.

His sister ran into the old boy friend and Albert realize the dream/hope that his sister was his real mother died. Little -by- little a lot of his connections to his family died as well.

That family ,due to Victoria's instigation, decide to beat the ’gay’ out of him. The show was very circumspect in this presentation, but its been the subtext of this whole series.
she said to make a man out of him!??

They beat him so vicious that the play aunt came and kept him away for the family.After this horrendous assault, Juan Gabe broke ties with his family, and declared them dead to him....
he left forever and would not contact them until he became successful!!

JUAN GABRIEL-DIVO!!

 

santa diabla


WTF, BOTH OF MY GIRLS ARE IN JAIL??!!
 

Sangre

thanks all for your comments!

let's see,

Tamaulipas came to the U.S. via coyote who he agreed to work for 1 1/2 years to pay back, who sold his debt to Edgar who got him papers and passport and would give them to him when the debt was paid but it's been over three years, and now he worries he will be deported (and why would this be bad since he is working for less than nothing) so he escapes from the hospital and is later found gunned down.

Matias comes to town to promote the wine Aurora created in Argentina, now one of the countries best, and invites Aurora to the gala but not Roberto, Aurora finds out why. (including a time where Roberto assaulted a worker he claimed was flirting with Aurora) among many unprovable things, against Matias orders, he changed suppliers for there pesticides, etc, to a company in Panama ?? who delivered a knock off product from China for the same price, (that was having a bad effect on the plants)

Paloma doing a photo shoot at home finds Roberto's new gun, he says he got it to protect them from wild gangs in the neighborhood throwing their flower pots around, they take it back together.

Horatio interviews Aurora but Rob doesn't want her to be alone with him and invites himself, Emilio gets sick (could Rob have something to do with this) so the meeting is cut short.

Edgar hears about Tamaulipas, blows his whistle to round up his guys and they are gone, Cris calls to find out why the grape deliveries have stopped.

Juanjo is sad, once again he has screwed things up for his family, Sere says he'll always have her by his side.

 

Santa Diabla

Halimacandy- not to worry, Bert's a lawyer, Ha!

this was recapped if you care to go back and find them.

 

Sangre

Wow, what terrific comments/recaps from Kelly, Spanish Student, Halimacandi, and deb. I've got just about nothing to add. Just want to say that, like Spanish Student, I suspect Roberto may have had something to do with the plants, etc. getting vandalized. Whether he did it (or had it done) to both Sara's house and his own, I don't know. It's possible that vandals did it to Sara, but that gave him the idea once he saw Aurora hide the flash drive.

Also, I found Roberto absolutely insufferable when Horacio was trying to interview Aurora. Roberto kept interrupting to point out that credit for each thing that Horacio mentioned should go to him (Roberto) as well as to Aurora. And he's furious when Aurora corrects his statement about which grapes were used for the award-winning wine. deb, I can see why you suspect Roberto may have even had something to do with Emilito's falling ill, thus causing the interview to end. I too wondered--the timing seemed so perfect--but I can't imagine how he could have brought that off, especially since Emilito really was ill.

Kelly, I agree that Aurora should stop lying to Roberto. That's only making things worse, since he invariably finds out she's not telling him the truth. In an earlier discussion, I defended her decision not to mention that Juanjo was in Chicago, but ¡ya basta!
 

Sorry to drag back but what happened between juanjo and aurora in Chicago
I only get to watch the ten minutes episodes on YouTube. Thanks
 

Sangre

Grace, not all that much happened between Aurora and Juanjo other than some heart-to-heart talk. Aurora's stay in Chicago was cut short after she learned that Roberto was on his way. She returned home. But Roberto, of course, is furious that Aurora and Juanjo were both there.

By the way, since you clearly have access to the Internet, you can probably find all the episodes (starting with #1) available on Telemundo's website (www.telemundo.com). I clicked on the box containing the most recent episode. That went to a page where the current episode started to play, but also on the same page were all the earlier ones.
 

Sangre.

Grace, nothing happened except a lot of eye contact and subtle flirtation. Aurora knew that Rob was risking his poor health to take an emergency flight to Chicago ...after he learned that Juanjo was also there. Aurora returned home first thing in the morning and Rob arrived a few minutes later so they missed each other. I don't remember how he explained to Cris why he wasted time and money for just a few minutes in Chicago.

Spanish Student
 

I tried their website, it says the video is not available in my country
Thanks a lot

 

Thanks a lot
 

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