Monday, February 19, 2018

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José, Sangre de mi tierra, Señora Acero 4, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, & más: Week of February 19, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en alquiler
• 1-2PM—Las reglas del juego
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi tierra**
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro**
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4**
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo**

**Both Sangre de mi tierra and Señora Acero 4 will end on Tuesday. On Wednesday, they will be replaced by Al otro lado del muro and Enemigo íntimo.  The Latin Times describes Al otro lado del muro as "a thrilling telenovela about two women who come to live in the United States: one chasing a dream and the other one escaping from a nightmare." A more detailed synopsis can be found hereEnemigo íntimo will star Fernanda Castillo, who played Monica Robles in El Señor de los Cielos. Castillo will portray Roxana Rodiles, "a woman with an obscure past and dubious business activities in the present."  The Latin Times offers more information here.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Comments:
General
Juanita--what a surprise....Marido en Alquiler, again? Why not Reina de Corazones. Have fun everyone.

Actually the two replacements sound interesting. I might join you after all.
 

General

¡Bienvenida, Anita! Yes, Telemundo has been using the morning time slot to reprise novelas first seen in the evening. Not long ago, it was Santa Diabla, replaced a week or so ago by Marido en Alquiler. Who knows, they may some day reprise Reina de Corazones, or what was left of it after they hacked it to pieces. Sigh.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed about the upcoming evening offerings, especially Al Otro Lado del Muro.
 

Sangre de mi tierra - #58/1

Dolores tells Susan that Roberto and Sara got married. She saw Sara in a bridal gown and bouquet, and Roberto too was formally dressed. They didn't see her, and she didn't speak to them; they got into a car and drove away.

Serena and Aurora reconcile. As hard as it is for her, Serena recognizes that Juanjo and Aurora love each other and always have. And Serena and Aurora are "sisters."

The scene shifts to Tijuana. Sara sees in a magazine a photo of the guy who performed her wedding ceremony with Roberto. She does an Internet search and realizes that she's been duped. She then overhears Reyes and Zenobia talking about Roberto's plan. Reyes is supposed to cross the border with "that drugged woman," who will then be killed and her death will be made to look like a suicide. "You don't know who you're messing with," Sara says to an absent Roberto.

Meanwhile, back in California, Roberto vehemently denies to Susan that he married "that crazy woman" and claims that she's simply obsessed with him. Susan then shows him a photo of Reyes. Roberto admits that he knows Reyes. They're friends from childhood and grew up in the same barrio. Reyes has had money problems and Roberto has helped him out. Roberto tells Susan he's sure Reyes has nothing to do with Emilito's kidnapping. He gives Susan Reyes' phone number and address.

Sara offers to cook for Zenobia and Reyes. She sends them out to get the ingredients she needs. Once they leave, she finds her gun and some pills.

Natalia comes to see Paloma. "I came to give you something I owe you," she tells Paloma, and slaps her hard. Cris comes into the room, enraged at Natalia. Natalia tells him to ask this whore (piruja) why she's here. Cris turns his anger onto Paloma, who runs to find Meche. Cris comes after her. Paloma tells her father that the affair is over, and Meche too says it's over. Cris is enraged that Meche knew and didn't tell him. He goes after both of them. Leo(nora) comes in and confronts Cris. She tells Meche to call 911 and report domestic violence. Meche tells Leonora to go to her room.

After eating the food Sara cooked, Zenobia goes into a deep sleep. Reyes suspects she's been drugged and goes looking for Sara. She's not in her room.

An enraged Cris finds Paco and screams at him for having slept with Paloma, someone whose diapers he had changed. He slugs Paco and demands that Paco fight back, but he doesn't. One of Cris's blows sends Paco to the floor, unconscious. Cris calls for an ambulance.

Susan and Ernesto are unable to find any proof against Roberto. There's no record of a marriage to Sara, and the contact info that Roberto provided for Reyes seems genuine. But when Susan looks at a video of their questioning of Roberto, she notices that at certain questions, he keeps crossing his fingers and hiding his thumbs. This body language makes her sure he's nervous and he's lying. She tells Ernesto to get two police to keep watch over Roberto 24/7.

Gun in hand, Reyes continues to look for Sara. She suddently appears and shoots him. The coyote who was supposed to take Reyes, Sara, and Emilito across the border appears, pointing a gun at Sara. She tells him Reyes was going to kill her, but she shot first and he's dead. She tells the coyote that if he wants to continue the deal, he can take her across the border and she'll pay him double.

The drugged Zenobia wakes up and hears her phone ring. It's Roberto, who has been trying unsuccessfully to reach Reyes. Zenobia tells Roberto that no one is in the house except her.
 

Sangre - #58/2

As Sara and Emilito are riding with the coyote, she remembers confronting Wilmer. She had held a knife to his neck, told him she had seen him write "Assassin," and demanded to know what he had against Roberto. Wilmer told her Roberto was not the good person she thought he was. He killed his wife's brother, and he, Wilmer, had proof. Sara asks the coyote how much longer they'll be traveling. He tells her they're close, but if she's tired, there's a motel just 2 km. away where she can rest. No, she says, she has things to do on the other side of the border, and then she'll be able to rest. She offers to pay the coyote extra if he hurries.

Cris comes to the hospital, learns that Paco has suffered a serious head wound and is in surgery. Cris calls a very drunk Natalia to give her the news.

We next see Paco in his hospital bed, awake and out of danger. The entire Monteil clan is present.

Also at the hospital, Cris berates Meche again for not having told him about Paloma. She says she didn't tell him precisely to avert this kind of tragedy. He blusters on in his pig-headed macho way. A discouraged Meche says, "You'll never change," and orders him to leave the house. Cris tells her it's his house, and she can't make him leave. She tells him she can report him for domestic violence. Juaquín comes by and tells Cris that if he continues with his stubbornness and pride, he'll find himself all alone.

Everyone receives a video on their phones from Sara. In the video, she tells them that it was Roberto who killed Emilio by tampering with the brakes, and she shows Wilmer's video. She also reveals that Roberto then killed Wilmer, who had been blackmailing him. And it was Roberto who arranged to have Juanjo drugged and Emilito kidnapped and brought to Mexico with her. She has escaped and will soon return Emilito, safe and sound. She asks for forgiveness. There's jubilation among most of the Castañedas, and rage from Juanjo, who recognizes that Roberto had sent him to prison and almost ruined his life. "I'm going to kill him," Juanjo vows.

Roberto is in Sara's house, I think. He too has received a copy of Sara's video. He's dressed in a suit and tie--I'm not sure why. Suddenly he hears, "Hola amor," and turns to see Sara pointing a gun at him. She looks as if she may be finding it difficult to pull the trigger, but we'll have to wait until tomorrow to find out whether that's the case.
 

"SANGRE":

I'm assuming the Gran Final is 2 full hours ?
 

Sangre de mi tierra

Juanita, excellent recap...answered a lot of my questions.

2 insignificant corrections...1) Zenobia was outside the apartment and couldn't go back in to get the money because the Police were searching the area due to Reyes death. Rob refused to help and told her she's on her own. 2) Rob snuck into Aurora's house. (The writers decided Rob should have keys to Aurora's house. Earlier he walked in and out as he pleased and Aurora demanded them back...but he had a copy.) While Aurora was showering, he entered her bedroom just in time to catch the video on her phone. I think he took the phone downstairs and wet it to create water damage. That's when Sara appeared with the gun.

We saw everyone's reaction to the video... except Aurora and Cris. I was expecting the video to be a game changer for Cris...allowing him to reconcile with Juanjo and redirect his anger at Rob. Perhaps tonight.

In addition to sending the video, Sara gave Delores Wilmer's backpack with the money and tablet inside. She also told Delores she thought Rob killed Wilmer. In the video she promised to return Emilito...not sure if she left him with Delores.

Flashbacks revealed that Sara knew a lot more than we were led to believe which confused me even more. What was her m.o. if she knew Rob was a murderer for months? And why did she trust him and not help Aurora and Juanjo?

On another note, Horacio met Natalia at the club where Serena works and we saw a little jealousy from Serena. Nat got sloppy drunk trying to drink her sorrows away and Horacio and Serena had to take her home. There they learned that Paco was in the hospital. Later, we see Nat at his bedside...they're holding hands. Next Serena apologized to Horacio for her crappy attitude...and it looked like the start of something new..

Spanish Student

 

Sangre

Muchísimas gracias, Spanish Student, for your excellent additions and corrections. I had totally missed point #1. And your explanation of point #2 was very helpful. It had crossed my mind that Rob must have been in Aurora's house, since he certainly wouldn't be sniffing Sara's pajamas! :-) But I didn't think that Sara had keys to Aurora's house, and I decided that she couldn't have snuck in unheard without them, so the scene must have taken place in Sara's house. However, what seemed confusing late last night now seems crystal clear, thanks to you.

I also missed Sara's giving Dolores Wilmer's backback with the money and tablet inside. Like you, though, I wondered (and still wonder) why Sara stayed with Roberto and even married him (or thought she did) once she knew what a nasty piece of work he was. That seems to me a big Oops moment in the writing or editing of the novela.

Thanks too for adding the stuff about Horacio, Serena, and Natalia. I decided that the recap was already pretty choppy, and I couldn't see a way to add that thread without making it even choppier, so I left it out, hoping that someone else would add it.
 

Sangre

Thank you, Juanita, for the great recap. Thanks to Spanish Student for supplying additional info. I think you've got it covered.

If Sara survives, it's off to prison for her! She is an accessory to Roberto's criminal activities. She has a lot of qualities in common with him. So lonely and desperate, she continued to buy Rob's BS in hopes of a fairy tale ending. The only reason she flipped was because of her own hurt, not because she grew a conscience.

Enough with the pathetic Natalia/Paco/Paloma story line. That's what they should have cut from the show.

Serena is most deserving of a happily ever after, even if it is with Horacio.

Rob: death, prison or manicomio?

Will we get a satisfying ending? We find out tonight!

dondi356
 

Sangre

@Steve: I think and strongly hope that you're wrong about there being a 2-hour gran final, even though there are enough loose ends to justify 2 hours. The Telemundo website has a strange blank gap for tonight's evening programming, but it shows the midnight repeat of Sangre being an hour long, and the 1 a.m. repeat of Señora Acero 4's gran final also being an hour long. I also checked with Zap2It, and it shows both shows being one hour long, both at 9 and 10 p.m. and again at midnight and 1 a.m.

@dondi356: Yes, I suspect that Sara will wind up in prison, if she survives. In my mind, that's a big IF. You make a very good point about her emotional neediness as explaining why she stayed with him even after apparently knowing what a nasty, unscrupulous guy he is.
 

SANBGR

BLOODY VINE ..SPILL THE WINE ,DIG THAT GIRL!!

JUANITA:
THANK a bunch...the Sara, the spy,has outdone everyone, I wonder abt her since she pulled rank on Robert,way back..I wonder abt her upbringing???

Natalia, came over ,lit -up!! and she blew the joint up!!!

- Paco drama, Cirs. didn't kill him!! ?/really!! too bad, I wanted him to do time!!

- jailbirds, they didn't know Sara was GANGSTER!!

-the cops finnaly got it on

- Dolores its your time, Wilmer...RIP...

-Who knew Sara was in the MIDDLE OF IT ALL!! WHO DA THUNK IT??!!

 

Sangre

............get it over with~~

I just watch Sara ..in the Big House grande...BLOW IT-UP!!

DANG!!she drop -a-bomb!!!, nobody saw that coming!!

because, we didn't have a clue abt this chick...

.Gotta give props to the writers, they really , threw a fast -screw- ball, when they..' went-in- on-it, using Sara as the thread of poison..

that linked it all together.. ....at least it was a rational, but improbable... climax!!

OK.. WE GOTTA DEAL WITH IT!??...it makes sense..in its own way.?!??.but we had no,clues... we were kept in the dark until the end..

Sara, we really didn't know you!! and why not??!!

I kept wondering ..where her parent GRIFTERS, cause she recognized HIS CONS!!!


SINCE THE SHOP/Parking lot... beat down, she played Roberto, cause ..'GAME -RECOGNIZE-GAME'..!!

They need to let us know how-the-heck!?..did Sara have the gun, she had ,very handy.. she was in tex/mex!!..oh yea.. the California Reference??!?

 

Sangre

..Sara's a ..'pistol -packing -momma'.!!!.. so it'S ..HIGH NOON..,..
put them-hands-up-where-I-can-see-them, you dirty hombre!
Do him Sara !!, and kill each other , oh YEAH!!

WAIT??!THE OFFSHORE MONEY!! SARA, WHERE'S THE DANG -ON,BANK...$$$$$$$$$$
 

Sangre

what a wonderful recap Juanita!

the story itself was a bit choppy last night, but you put it together pretty well, hmm, a couple little things I noticed, if it helps,

Sere came back to Aurora to be with her because of Emilio, in part because Susan had explained to her that Aurora wasn't accusing her of being part of that.

and who takes a nice lady on a date to a strip joint, but I think it was Natalia's idea, cracked me up at the hospital when they brought Paco some pain killers, he didn't want any but she took one.

Sara was smart in searching Reyes bag, taking his gun and using the pills on them at dinner, except Reyes wasn't hungry.

also interesting that she wouldn't let Zenovia smoke pot in the house because of Emilio.

not sure why she needed a coyote to get back into the states, maybe because Emilio was with her.

interesting that she confronted Wilmer, who talked with a knife to his throat, but this was before Rob killed him, so not so bad.

also interesting the death of Sara's son, Rob used it as an excuse of why Sara was whacko, but it was her trip to her son's grave that led to her seeing Wilmer bury the backpack.

also when Zenovia gave Rob a heads up (she desperately needed money and help but Rob told her not to call him again and hung up, ha!) he went to Sara son's grave, fresh flowers,

I'm thinking Sara gave Dolores Emilio, as well as the backpack with the tablet and all the money, that was nice.

the two story place with the sign calling Rob a murderer, the paint still wet, was the beach house he sold Sara, Susan's guys saw him and she had Ernesto get a search warrant.

and in the end he went back to Aurora's, with her phone next to her pajamas, and saw the video, so Aurora hasn't.

 

Sangre

@Halimacandy: loved your comments. And yes, I too wondered about all the money that had been sent to offshore banks.

@deb: OMG, I can't believe all the things you saw that I missed. Wow! Many thanks!!
 

Sangre

I hope Sara lives, even if she's incarcerated, since she's intimately aware of most of Rob's crimes...Not to mention the corrupt lawyer and theft of the offshore account. I don't sympathize with her treatment of Aurora but I like that she didn't take Wilmer's money. Of course, in an ideal ending, Cris & family would let Delores keep some of the money, or maybe even give her shares in the company. For Wilmer's video will not only reunite 2 families but will allow them to grieve properly and move forward.

Spanish Student
 

Sangre,

Deb, dondi and halimacandy...thanks for the additional details. It really does take a village...

Spanish Student
 

Hi guys!

I've been a silent reader of Caray Caray's Telemundo recaps since I found this website in 2015 when I was watching Pasion De Gavilanes (loved it). I've been watching Sangre since January and this website has really helped me fill in the gaps about the events in December.

I'm eagerly waiting for the destruction of Roberto the terrible. Sara, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I have a feeling she's going to kill Roberto because even though Juanjo and Aurora have suffered more, I don't see them going to the extremes like Sara.

Also Juanjo and Aurora are not the brightest tools in the shed so there's that. Here's hoping Roberto goes to hell and more.

La Capture
 

Sangre
Great recaps!
I was surprised that Paco ending up near death. Good trick to bring the Montiels together.
I think that Chris may be the one kills Roberto, which may bring him redemption. We'll see tonight!
Bella
 

I'll be watching the first episodes of the two new ones. I meant to watch Sangre but started taping it after it had been on three weeks, and it just seemed too hard to catch up.

I'm hoping for one of the novelas to grab me so I can come back to my friends here at Caray, Caray.
 

Welcome back, novelera! We've missed you.
 

Sangre

ah novelera, I think you would have liked Sangre.

I know I missed your comments.

 

Senora Acero 4

Indio Amaro lost some more fingers, he was crushed.
Indira (Gaby Espino) the not so perfect mom (stellar performance), drowned.
Daniel, coma.
Vicenta pregnant.
and a more original ending than Sangre, oh wait, avances of next season,

Teca is alive...

 

Sangre de mi tierra - #59/1

Short version: Roberto is beaten and shot, and winds up in a coma in a vegetative state. Crisanto asks everyone's forgiveness, one by one. Just about everyone ends up with a partner. Happy happy happy. Fin.

[No, I didn't think that would suffice, but it was worth a try.] The episode opens the way the previous one ended, with Sara pointing a pistol at Roberto. She says there's no point in his trying to destroy evidence, because she has sent a video to everyone, including the police. Chances are they're looking for you right now, she tells him. She explains how she found out that he was planning to have her killed and make her death appear to be a suicide. He tells her he saw a psychiatrist because she is sick, she's schizophrenic. "I'm sick?" she asks. "The only crazy one is you. You were in love for years with a woman who didn't love you, and doesn't love you." Sara tells him she's going to free him from his suffering. Aurora hears a gunshot. She cautiously comes out of her bedroom and sees Sara on the floor, bleeding. Roberto comes up behind Aurora and grabs her, holding a gun to her head.

Susan and Ernesto watch the video. Susan realizes that if Roberto sees the video, Aurora and others could be in danger. Susan and Ernesto race out to Aurora's house. But she's no longer there. While holding her at gunpoint, Roberto forces her out the door and demands car keys from an old woman using a walker. He drives off with Aurora. He tells her, "When we married, I said I would be with you until death, and I'm going to fulfill that promise." He has to stop for gas, and Aurora convinces him that she has to use the bathroom. He accompanies her most of the way. When Aurora enters the bathroom, a woman is leaving, and Aurora asks her to lend her her cellphone, it's an emergency. She call Juanjo and tells him where she is, but Roberto interrupts her and throws the phone into the toilet.

He binds Aurora's hands with his tie, and they drive off. "I should have killed both of you a while ago," Roberto tells Aurora. He finally stops the car near a railroad track. Aurora escapes from the stopped car, her hands still bound, and runs. She hides in one of the railroad cars. As Roberto looks for her, Juanjo and Crisanto drive up and start calling out for Aurora and Roberto. Roberto gets close to where Aurora is hiding, but just then Crisanto appears, and Roberto shoots him. Juanjo goes to the injured Crisanto. Roberto probably would have shot him, but Aurora managed to stick her foot out from the railroad car and trip Roberto. Juanjo then charges at Roberto. They fight, but Juanjo beats him repeatedly and knocks him momentarily unconscious. Aurora is with Crisanto. Juanjo gets a phone call from Paloma letting him know that Emilito has been returned safe and sound. Aurora, Crisanto, and Juanjo are very happy to hear this and don't notice that Roberto is coming at them brandishing a large chunk of wood. Aurora catches sight of him, picks up the gun that's conveniently lying near her, and shoots him, just as Susan and Ernesto arrive.

Several weeks pass. Paloma is now in New York and is chatting with Aurora via Skype. She has met one of Aurora's male friends from Paris, who is the owner of a restaurant and very good-looking. Also, Paloma has a job interview the next day at a terrific gallery.

Crisanto comes home from the hospital. He says he plans to stay with Aurora and Juanjo for just a few days. Aurora insists that he should stay with them and consider their house his house.

Paco is planning to return to Spain the next day. He and Natalia start remembering all the good times. Finally, Natalia asks him to stay. He agrees. We see a bit of PG-13 sex.
 

Sangre - #59/2

Serena tells Doris that she's going to Miami because Horacio is her boss. Nothing more. Doris tells her she's crazy--he's good-looking, gallant, well-mannered, and free. And he's crazy about her. Serena admits that she likes him a little, and she remembers that he's great in bed. Dimas comes to Karen's to see Serena, and he asks Serena's forgiveness. Hugs.

Sara comes to the hospital with Susan to see Roberto. Susan tells her he is in a vegetative state with minimal brain activity. According to the neurologist, there's not much hope that he will wake up from his coma. Sara asks whether he can hear. Apparently some patients can, and can even recognize voices. "I hope that's so," says Sara. She approaches Roberto's bed and says in his ear, "If I had wanted to get revenge, I couldn't have thought of a better way. This is your prison."

The rest of the episode could be entitled "Te pido perdón." Crisanto has summoned his family and the Montiels to a meeting. He then asks forgiveness, one by one. He first asks forgiveness of Juanjo. He admits that he treated him very badly and unjustly, and he now realizes that Juanjo was not only innocent but is also a good man, loyal, courageous. Crisanto says "I'm not trying to justify myself, but when they killed Emilio, I took out all my grief and hatred on you. On all of you." He and Juanjo hug.

Crisanto then moves on to Natalia. He gives her back La Viña del Rio, the vineyard he took from her. More hugs.

Crisanto shakes hands with Paco. This time, he doesn't ask for forgiveness, but simply says "You and I have to talk."

Back at Meche's house, Meche is astonished to see Dimas and Natalia arrive with many bags full of food. Natalia wants to have a great celebration, they way they used to. Why? Because Crisanto has returned La Viña del Rio. Meche is astonished. And delighted.

The perdóns continue. Crisanto comes to see Leonora. He tells her "it's no secret that I was brought up to see things as black and white, period. But I had no right to treat you that way. So I ask you to forgive me. I just ask that you give me time to adjust to things." More hugs.

Meche sees Crisanto and Leonora embracing. Cris then asks for Meche's forgiveness. Still more hugs.

Even Anita gets into the act. She asks Aurora to forgive her for the rotten way she treated her. "I thought Roberto was a good person. I had no idea how much harm he was doing to you or to Emilito." Aurora assures her that she wasn't the only one who was taken in by Roberto.

Of course, the novela ends with Aurora and Juanjo. They both say they feel so peaceful, so happy. "And nothing, finally, will separate us." Their song plays. And the curtain falls. Oops, not quite. The scene shifts to the hospital, with Roberto in his coma. Suddenly, his eye opens. And the novela ends.
 

"SANGRE":

Juanita: Was Meche the person, who transitioned into a woman ?
 

Sangre de mi Tierra - Finale

Muchas gracias, Juanita! Your short version is much better than the short recap on the novela's homepage. (Juanjo y Aurora viven su romance, pero con cierto temor. Sin ellos saberlo, Roberto sobrevive después del disparo que recibió.)

Paloma leaves - good, she's still too self-righteous and self-centered. Leo stays - good, but I'm still clueless about his sexuality (in my limited understanding it could go many ways). The writers chose to leave him in a virginal state. Serena and Dimas make up and she moves to Miami with Horacio (not what I was expecting but maybe she'll finally advance in her career).

Telenovela writers are masters at creating drama where it doesn't exist, i.e. the age difference between Paco and Paloma. I get it...the families were close and they tainted that bond. But Cris cheated with a woman much younger and more worldly than Meche (Kimberly). Happy to no longer hear about how many times Paco may have changed Paloma's diaper...20+ years ago.

The end of another era. The finale was pretty much what I was expecting with the exception of Rob surviving and Anita being forgiven. I'm probably the only one who sympathized with Cris although I didn't like him. His entire foundation was destroyed - death of a son, another son chose a lifestyle he'd been raised to consider a perversion, his youngest, free-spirited daughter arrogant and reckless, and the other daughter in love with his sons murderer, or so he thought. And that's only half of it. But the alienation humbled him and he became a better man in the end. He lost a son but he also gained a son in Juanjo...now father and son (-in-law). Perfect ending until Rob opened his eyes.

Spanish Student
 

I stay in South Africa and La Fan is currently airing we are at episode 73 now and I think Sangre De Mi Tierra will later this year. I'm just happy that we get the full version of the novelas and not the hacked telenovelas you guys get in America
 

Sangre

wow, thanks so much Juanita, you really went all out!

I finally got the pet word Juanjo calls Aurora, grenuda, right? in the english captions it started out as 'shaggy' but quickly became 'Curly Qs'.

at the gas station I was waiting for that attendant to appear and give Roberto another punch in the face.

interesting that they got Sere and Paloma out of town, and out of the picture, the family picture, hmm, but left Anita in.

loved the way Aurora kicked the gun out of Roberto's hand, saving Juanjo, glad that Juanjo picked it up after thrashing Rob (instead of just leaving it lying there next to him) and interesting that Aurora shot Rob, saving Juanjo again, I thought the good guys didn't kill the bad guy, but then he isn't dead.

kind of strange Susan bringing Sara to see Rob, maybe they were just passing by, she was wearing handcuffs, and Ernesto's parting shot, hovering over Rob, alone.

I can see a sequel to this, where Rob is a zombie haunting the grape fields.

 

"SANGRE":

Spanish Student: Crisanto became a better man. It was good.

Ayanda: Leonardo chose to become transgender, which Crisanto was NOT a big fan of.

HALIMACANDY: Psychopath Rob waking up was a downer.
 

Sangre

Muchas gracias a tod@s for your interesting and insightful comments.

Spanish Student, I hadn't seen the short description of the episode on TM's website, and I'm glad I didn't. I didn't want to know that Rob had survived until I saw the end of the novela. The ending is much more powerful, IMHO, if you don't know to expect his waking up. So I'm pleased that you preferred my version.

I may have had somewhat less sympathy for Cris than you did, but I agree with what you say. I'm glad he came around and was redeemed. Anita, OTOH, is a very different case. She had MUCH less reason to be such a perra to Aurora and others. I'd have been happier with a bizarre ending where her excessively bright red lips fell off. :-)

Though it's true that Cris had an affair with a woman much younger than he was, that didn't trouble me as much as Paco's affair with Paloma. For me, not only was the family closeness important, but so too was the fact that Paco had changed her diapers! That detail apparently resonated for me more than for you. To me, it made the affair seem almost incestuous.

You describe Leonora as being left in a "virginal state." As Leonora, perhaps, but as Leonardo, didn't he and Sofi have sex, and even a pregnancy scare?

I'm not sure whether anyone else feels this way, but I LIKED the ending with Rob's opening an eye. It made what for me was an excessively sugary ending more edgy. I remember thinking "Uh oh" when Aurora and Juanjo talked about nothing ever again being able to separate them. For me, that's asking for trouble. So the opened eye seemed both eerie and appropriate. (What? Me superstitious?)
 

Sangre

deb, yes, the word is greñuda. I recall looking it up early on. My dictionaries all seemed to think it meant either "tangled" (when referring to hair) or "unkempt, disheveled" (when talking about a person). Interesting that the English captions decided upon Curly Qs. Wouldn't that imply that Aurora had curly hair? I wouldn't have described her that way. I might add that on WordReference.com, someone said the word suggested "having a really bad hair day."

I found very interesting your point about getting Sere and Paloma out of town and thus out of the family picture. Bizarre, especially since, as you point out, Anita is in it. Arrgh!

Loved your imagining a sequel with Roberto as a zombie haunting the grape fields!

I just want to thank you again for all the wonderful recaps you provided for this novela. (I wish this site had emojis, especially a thumbs up or someone applauding.)
 

"SANGRE":

Juanita: Leonardo becoming Leonora was a bit surprising. I know it drove Crisanto NUTS.

Telemundo did a good job showing the LGBT angle here in this TN.

Deb: Aurora should've shot Psycho Rob in the head to make sure he's dead, but no he's awake. I'm wondering if Telemundo will bring it back for a 2nd Season.

 

Sangre

while they were after Rob, I got a kick out of Susan making Juanjo promise to stay out of it, while he kept replying that he would stay put, just keep me informed.

Susan was the best police chief, ever!

 

Sangre

Thank you Juanita for the wonderful recap. Great comments by everyone.

So two weeks in the hospital was what it took for Cris to repent and ask forgiveness. He had some time to think about Joaquin's words: If you don't change you will end up very much alone. The forgiveness came a little too quickly for me, as Cris caused a lot of damage over many years. I was pleased that Paloma was not willing to forgive right away as others did.

Serena and Paloma will be much better off where they are. Both need a fresh start.

I'd like to think Leonora will be alright. She has a good support system now.

A big disappointment for me (maybe all of us) was Anita. Not even a cachetada for her. Victim of Roberto? Not buying it. Victim of her own stupidity is more like it.

Luis remained a cipher throughout the entire novela. I guess he was there only to provide a motivation for Anita's bitterness and scheming with Roberto.

Roberto: Hierba mala nunca muere. Juanita, I've seen similar ends in other novelas but they were much darker ones than Sangre. I'm not sure how I feel about it but I thought the same "uh oh" "asking for trouble".

If Roberto makes a comeback, look for Sara to be not too far behind!

Thank you everyone. Looking forward to the next novelas.

dondi356


 

"SANGRE":

Dond356: Anita was STUPID indeed. I never liked her anyways.

1.) Telemundo needs to bring this back for a 2nd Season because you cannot leave us hanging like that with PSYCHO Rob waking up.

2.) Leonora will need to overcome derogatory remarks from people, who will not be comfortable with someone, who was previously a guy & now transgender.

3.) Joaquin nailed it BIGLY!

4.) Paloma needs more time (probably months) to forgive Crisanto.

5.) I hope Aurora & Juanjo have security detail at their residence because Psycho Rob could be gunning for them again.

 

Sangre

Thank you, Juanita for the wonderful recap. I was pretty pleased with the finale except for that final minute where Roberto woke up. I don't know if the writers were going for the whole Roberto's alive but he's as good as dead type thing. Personally, that spoiled the mood for me. Nonetheless, considering I understood 3/4 of the dialogue (I watch novelas to learn Spanish. I watched this in Spanish subs for practice), it was a pretty enjoyable novela. I think the length was perfect and I'm glad this didn't get to the usual 100-120 episodes.

Senora Acero 4

El Indio Amaro's death was quite a sendoff. Really hoping season 5 is the last season.

La Capture
 

SANGRE

THANKS JUANITA AND DEB FOR RECAPS AND FLOW!!!

OMG... WE SURVIVED THIS DARN SHOW!!... BLODD ON THE VINE !!!
 

JOSE JOSE

MINVERA KILLED NEGRON IN COURT??!!

KIK AND JOSE BROKE UP.. ABOUT TIME...

GONZALO IS DRINKING LIKE A FISH AND HAS A LOT OOF RESENTMENT .

THE PROMOTERS ARE ALL BUSY CHASING WOMEN

BUT THE BIG NEWS IS THE DIVORCE AND ITS GETING NASTY??!!!

 

Sangre:

Thank you, Juanita, your recap was wonderful and complete.

I was a little surprised when both Sara and Roberto were alive. I thought the police officer felt for Sara's pulse, looked at the other officer and shook his head, as if to say, no, she didn't make it. We also never saw how Rob must have grabbed the gun and shot her (I guess it's easier for the director just to let us imagine it).

I was actually a little teary and emotional when Paco and Natalia reconciled. I know how bad Paco was, but the two of them had had so many good years together, and one terrible year, it was very moving when she said "quédate".

I liked that Paloma has tickets to the Metropolitan Opera, because I love the Met Opera too, and have been there many times!

I liked that this show actually ended (no, I don't think Roberto's eye opening was anything more than a little joke). I was really disappointed when Sin Senos Si Hay Paraiso "ended" with absolutely NOTHING resolved - just wait for next season. In Sangre, they resolved just about everything. Very satisfying.

Thanks again to all the recappers and commenters. Since I don't watch the show until the day after (because in my city On Demand is HD, but the regular channel isn't, and also I like to be able to watch when I have time), I wasn't able to comment too much. But I really enjoyed reading everything we all had to say.
 

Sangre

Juanita, I was thinking aloud re: Telemundo's recap. I wanted to do a presentation on the novela in my Spanish class today so I checked their site for a recap in spanish. To my disappointment it wasnt at all helpful.

I never really saw a strong bond or uncle-niece relationship between Paloma and Paco so to me it was what i've become accustomed to seeing...older man with a much younger woman. He and Cris both said they felt more youthful and energized with their younger mistresses. As for Leonardo's virginal state...I still don't know if he likes men, women, or both because he was never interested in anyone yet seemed a little jealous of Sofi's boyfriend.

We agree about the ending. It was perfect (to the naive and 'blind' - Aurora and Juanjo), but Satan never sleeps (Rob's eyes opened).

Hombre de misterio, I felt the same way about Nat and Paco. To me, before the affair, he was a good man maybe even a little boring. But he respected women and didn't try to dominate and control them. Likewise Nat was a good person who stepped too far out of her comfort zone in her quest to win...and unfortunately ended up emotionally distraught. I enjoyed seeing them reconcile as much as I enjoyed hearing Meche say "Mi Santo" when she forgave him.

Spanish Student
 

Sangre,

I'm a little late in realizing this but ....the war was essentially Cris (and family) vs Nat (and family), and both Cris and Nat were alienated by their spouses, children, and friends for being too controlling and bull-headed (for lack of a better word). Both became depressed, but as typical, Nat was burdened with self-hatred and guilt whereas Cris drank and lashed out, sometimes violently, at others. The matriarch and patriarch were humbled and eventually became better people. I'm guessing this is a common plot for novelas.

Spanish Student
 

"OTRO LADO DEL MURO":

HALIMACANDY: Daniela Bascope from "LA Dona" is in this TN as Jennifer Suarez AKA Deborah Sanders 2.0.

In this TN, it appears Jennifer is ashamed of being Latina.
 

Sangre:
Gracias Juanita for your wonderful recaps. In general, I was satisfied with the ending. However, there was no mention of Negron, the lawyer, or the money.
Roberto's opening his eye just seemed to me a bit of macabre humor. I didn't take it seriously.
Bella
 

"OTRO LADO DEL MURO":

Bella: Did you watch the premiere episode ?

HALIMACANDY: Ernesto AKA BPN 2.0 is a bad, bad boy with his mistress (Executive Assistant to the Governor) having sex inside his office.

Meanwhile, Sofia AKA Bizzaro Gaviota 2.0 is much smarter than the late Bizzaro Gaviota was from "EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS".
 

Lado:
Yes Steve. I watched and liked the first episode; fast paced, interesting characters, relevant.
Bella
 

Al Otro Lado del Muro

I liked the first episode of this novela. I was a bit confused about the timing, even though they gave us a big hint when the words "a week earlier" appeared after we saw a woman running to a car that was ready for her with a small child. And then the same woman appears in the earlier time frame as the wife of the governor of a state in Mexico. I'm still confused about why she was escaping from bad guys with a boy about 8 years old, when her children are a boy of, say, 14 and a girl of 8 or 9.

Gabriel Porras is a very versatile actor. He was SO endearing in Bajo el Mismo Cielo, and SO rotten in La Reina del Sur. He's a different kind of baddie in this one.

I have a feeling that Adriana Barraza, Eliza's mother Carmen, who so hates people crossing the border, might do so herself. She's a major actress in Mexico and I don't expect her to have a minor role.

Here we go again with the evil blondes! The governor's assistant is a classic.

I haven't watched the second premiere episode and probably won't have time until the weekend to watch that one and catch up with Muro. But so far, I'm enjoying Muro.
 

Lado

Wow! My DVR recorded the wrong program last night, so it's only now that I've been able to see episode 1. But I liked it a lot!

Alas, I don't have time right now to say more, but I'm pleased that the first episode was so compelling.

Thanks very much, novelera, for your helpful and interesting remarks. I too am confused about the opening segment of a woman fleeing over the wall with a boy of about 8. Although perhaps the boy is really Sofia's daughter, disguised as a boy (the girl had said she prefers pants to a dress). She would be closer to the age of the "boy" we saw. But then where is Sofia's son?

Anyway, the opening scene was set in 2007. I think much of the novela will be more in the present. So what we see in the first episode is how both women, Eliza (with her two children) and Sofia, come to the United States, and probably both of them in 2007.

Gotta run.
 

Lado

We should all use the same "title word" at the top of our postings, so that someone later can search on that title word to find discussions. I somewhat arbitrarily chose "lado" when I put up the current Telemundo page, and I just checked. No other novela has used that as a title word, and so I think we should stick with it. So please remember to put the word "Lado" or "lado" (no quotation marks) at the top of each posting that has to do with Al Otro Lado del Muro.

Muchas gracias.
 

Lado

and Eliza's other, father of her children, appears to have another family.

 

"OTRO LADO DEL MURO":

Deb: Jennifer Suarez AKA Deborah Sanders 2.0 is obviously ashamed of being Latina.
 

"ENEMIGO INTIMO":

Juanita: Did you watch the premiere episode of this TN last night ?

Diego Soldano from "LA Dona" is in this TN portraying Federico Montalvo.


 

Lado

OK, here are some more details that may prove helpful in getting into the novela. We've got two principal women, Eliza Romero and Sofia Villavicencio. Each has a husband and two children. Max is married to Eliza, and they have 8-year-old twins, Karina and Tomas. Sofia is married to Ernesto Martinez, the governor of the Mexican state of Puebla. They also have two children, a boy, Julian, and a girl, Alondra, who is younger. Eliza seems to work with her mother, who is a baker. One of her customers is Sofia. The families know and like each other. I say "families," but I really mean the women and children. Eliza's husband Max is away on business for about half the year, and Sofia's husband Ernesto doesn't really mingle with the hired help.

Both women seem very happy with their lives. Sofia won the Miss Mexico contest but gave up the title ten years ago to marry the up and coming politician Ernesto. Eliza is delighted that Max has arranged for the family to move to the United States and move into a house he is having remodelled. What the women don't know is that their husbands aren't the ideal men they think they are. Max apparently has another family, including one or more children, in the United States. And Ernesto is a corrupt politician deeply involved in human trafficking.

What we see in this opening episode is that when Eliza and her children arrive in Los Angeles, Max fails to meet them. And a woman comes up to Sofia pleading with her to save her daughter, who has been kidnapped, and that Ernesto's friend and associate Juan Estevez is involved. A female reporter, too, tries to make Sofia aware of what's happening and enlist her help. Ernesto succeeds in convincing Sofia that these claims of wrongdoing are fraudulent and are intended to undermine his work. Believing her husband, Sofia meets with the reporter and asks who she's working for and how much she was bribed. The reporter plays a recording of a conversation between Ernesto and Juan Estevez in which they mention "botellitas." The reporter explains that the word doesn't refer to bottles of alcohol but rather to kidnapped girls. Sofia doesn't believe the reporter and tells her never to come near her or her family again. But later, at home, she sees a message on her husband's cell phone telling him that the botellitas are already at the Rancho San Pedro.

The naive/courageous Sofia sneaks out of the house and drives to Rancho San Pedro. She looks in the window of a building and sees a number of young women, all looking unhappy, and perhaps one of them looking like the girl in a flier Sofia had been given. However, Sofia is discovered by the chauffeur of Juan Estevez. She manages to escape from him (with a well-placed kick to his family jewels), only to be confronted by another man with a gun. Channeling her inner James Bond, she escapes from him as well. She gets in her car and drives away but is distracted by her cell phone ringing and crashes the car into a tree. She calls her chauffeur (I think) and he come to help her. She asks him to say nothing about this to anyone, and especially not to mention where her accident took place. She also asks him to stop at a hotel rather than bring her home. The hotel is where the journalist told her she could find her.

Sofia does find the journalist and tells her she was right, her (Sofia's) husband is corrupt. She wants to help the kidnapped women. At that moment, there's a knock on the door, and in walks Juan Estevez' chauffeur. "Oh no!" says Sofia, as the episode ends.
 

"OTRO LADO DEL MURO":

Juanita: Ernesto is BPN 2.0 with blatant corruption just like BPN in "EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS" involved with illegal activities.

It seems that Ernesto is plotting a campaign for the Presidency as he plans to get into Los Pinos (Residence of the President).

Sofia AKA Bizzaro Gaviota 2.0 (I nicknamed her this after the late Bizzarro Gaviota in "ESDLC"). At least this Bizzaro Gaviota is more smarter & knows martial arts.

I went ROFLOL at your "with a well-placed kick to his family jewels" comment.





 

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