Saturday, March 10, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/9/18 Chapter 5 Viernes: Winners, Losers, and Cheaters



Chapter 5: Winners, Losers, and Cheaters

Bullet points for the weekend discussion; some items combined.
  • Repeat of Carlos' beatdown which didn't – but should have – result in brain damage.
  • Leonardo and Ricardo talked about Elena and Anna. Leonardo appears to have been a lifetime workaholic and not had much experience with women and relationships. He's thinking about getting married.  [Will he ever be in for a shock.]

  • Alejandra and her mother were talking over breakfast when Alan called about Carlos' beating. Alejandra grabbed her purse and ran, playing into Carlos' hand.
  • At the morning meeting Gustavo reported on the results of his investigation into his client's situation. It appears that Paquito's sperm donor has no income but his father is wealthy. The law allows him to be made financially responsible for Paquito so he will be working on that. Ricardo reported that Alejandra had a good defense and isn't making it easy for him. Benjamín started needling him that he can't win this case. Victoria let him have it. She and Olivia commended Ricardo for taking on a case with these issues. Gustavo thinks that the child in this case should be allowed to know his father. Alonso reminded the others that they were not there to judge their clients but to help them. Roberto arrived late, saying it was because of his night moves. He is assigned the case they are filing against Mendez. His boasting continues, with him kissing the women. Victoria got disgusted and left the room, saying he was shameless. After the meeting Olivia told Roberto she saw him in the bar with his client's witness. In return he teased her about Leonardo. She didn't take the bait and walked away.
  • Anna stepped out of Leonardo's room at the hospital and called Roberto. She invited him to ask her out. They agree to meet at 8PM.
  • Alejandra saw Carlos in his hospital bed. He goes on about innocents in jail, playing her like Paganini played his violin. Carlos went on about getting back together with Alejandra. She didn't commit to it, but kissed him before leaving. Alejandra told Alan to do something about the prison situation. Alan pointed out that such things frequently happen in prisons but he will talk to the warden. He then worked on her to help Carlos have the will to go on. Sickening.
  • Gustavo explained to Lupe that he will have to go after Paquito's grandfather because he has the money and the obligation now that his own son has no income they can go after. She looked desperate, but he told her that she will get the money at the conclusion of the case. In the meantime he bought new shoes for the boy, for which she was grateful.
  • Ricardo called his kids, who put him on speaker phone. He just called to say he loves them; he's a good father. Benjamín barged into the office to interfere in his transgendered client's case. Ricardo is hoping to set a precedent in the human rights area. Benjamín just wants to bring him down.
  • Olivia and Victoria had the same conversation about Leonardo.
  • Alejandra told her mother about what happened with Carlos and that she did not commit to getting back together with him. Paula is worried; so are we.
  • Roberto and Anna went back to the same club. She was wearing a nice white raincoat. He didn't appear worried about being seen by his client's witness. The first kiss happened. He was looking to make more night moves.
  • Ricardo visited Leonardo and talked about his case. He will be meeting with a psychologist Roberto recommended.
  • Alejandra told her father about Carlos. He was confident in her legal skills but said not to sacrifice herself for this. They talked about the custody case and she praised Ricardo both as a lawyer and a person. She later talked with Ricardo on the phone. The next day is in family court.
  • Roberto and Anna went to a fancy hotel room near the bar. She gets all vampy on him and we see that she was naked under her coat.
  • The next day Victoria's morning workout was interrupted by a call from Rocio, her client. Her husband had beaten her up. Victoria bolted from the health club.
  • Roberto woke up next to Anna in the king-sized bed. He told her he had to go to the office and she said she had to go home for a few days, so they went for Round Two.
  • In family court the child psychologist testified that a child in therapy can understand this situation. Alejandra asked if there was a possibility of trauma and the shrink said there was. There was nothing definitive here. The judge asked if the attorneys had anything else. Alejandra said her client wanted her son to know the truth, but when he hits his majority [which will be in ten years]. Ricardo stood up for his client's rights as a parent and that she was seeking them in good faith. Both clients looked nervous.
  • Anna had the gall to go to the hospital to see Leonardo, who was dressed for release. He asked her to come stay with him but she begged of for a few days “for work.” She went to get the papers. Roberto called and Leonardo told him he was getting out of there in half an hour.
  • The judge wanted to hear from the clients. Nuria is too emotional, saying she would not recognize Daniela as her son's father. Daniela calmly stated that she wanted the boy to have her name and her financial support. Nuria started up again, Alejandra tried to restrain her. The judge said he needed to retire to chambers to make a decision. All rise.
  • Anna returned to Leonardo's room with the papers and the news that the firm paid all the medical bills. She commented on how nice this was and Leonardo agreed. Knock on door. It's Olivia picking up Leonardo because Roberto had work to do. Olivia picked up the teddy bear and told Anna to pick up the overnight bag. Anna's ass isn't grass yet. [We can't wait, can we?]
  • The judge decided in favor of Daniela Seguro, case closed. Nuria got nasty again and walked out. In the courthouse corridor Nuria called her father to tell him what happened. As she ended the call Daniela came out of the courtroom and Nuria got nasty with her again. Alejandra told her that they will appeal the decision but properly. Nuria insulted Ricardo for being Daniela's lawyer, then slapped Daniela. Alejandra and Ricardo realized that this case is far from over. He asks her to dine witih him but she declines, saying she wants to keep their relationship professional. Close-up of the handshake.
  • Victoria visited Rocio and talked about getting her husband arrested only to have her client say that she called her as a friend, not a lawyer. Rocio defended her brute of a husband, saying he was jealous. She started to blame herself. She is a textbook example of a victim being isolated at home with her children. Victoria told her she was not to blame and realizes that this beating wasn't the first. Rocio is in deep denial and Victoria can't convince her otherwise. She tells Victoria she is doing what she is doing “for the children.”
  • Leonardo arrived at his apartment with his two women. Anna laid it on thick about taking care of him for a few days before he returned to the office. “Te amo,” she said. [Yeah, right. NOT.]
  • Nuria's father barged into Ricardo's office with insults about the case and about lawyers and money. No violence, but he said he would not allow “that thing” near his grandson. Victoria and Roberto, both of whom witnessed this, told Ricardo they would stand by him.

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Not in my preferred literary style, but needed at this stage.

Question: Is anything in my recaps missing from the broadcast? The content without ads has been 52 minutes for each episode this week. Is Univision starting it earlier than 10PM and maybe limiting commercials?
 

Good Morning, and Thanks Urban, I see we are on the same page with lovable Miss Anna. This TN is turning out to have some truly hateful characters, the heart of any TN worth watching.

With Anna, you could just see the claws come out when Olivia showed up. Like a dove facing a hungry cat. The body language, the moving to get between the two, the lovey dovey smoochie, sheezo girl. I wonder what her agenda is. It looks too intense to just be one upgirlmanship over a man or two.

That Carlos would set himself up for the beating which he got, and which could have been worse, is unbelievable. It worked a bit on Ali, but not enough.

I assume that half the people who work with Roberto hate him as much as we do. That said, it is just a waiting game until he gets the same treatment as Carlos. He seems so self absorbed to be almost blind to the others around him. When he sauntered into the staff meeting late and pecked Victoria on the cheek she looked like she wanted one of those Clorox wipes.

I actually like the bullets when there are so many different stories swirling around. Thanks again UA
 

Thanks

I knew Ana was a facilota from the moment she took Roberto's cell number from the hospital.

Ale shouldn't let Carlos manipulate her into carrying on with their relationship.
And her wardrobe Dios Mio!!!???

Benjamin just sickens me.
 

It looks like Anna is trying to be some kind of Queen Bee. I also wondered whether she is a gold digger but we don't know yet whether she really works or whether her family of origin is rich. The day that Leonardo finds out will be the real life-changing experience for him.

Victoria has been seriously hurt at some point in her past.

Benjamin is a total jerk.

We still don't know whether Alonso is married, widowed, or whatever.

At least this episode was Elena- and Leticia-free.
 

Yeah, I think the only one I really like so far is weepwacement wabbitt. And maybe his owners. The kids, they seem nice in spite of HER.
 

I hope Leo finds out soon and sends her packing

Oli is nice but she seems a bit desperate.


 

I agree that Olivia is desperate. Someone other than Victoria needs to give her a clue that obsessing about someone in one's workplace is a bad idea.

I don't hate Roberto yet because I think he will get hit bad eventually and realize how empty his life really is.
 

Despite all his flaws I think Roberto is a good friend and will probably (hopefully) do the right thing when he realizes Ana is Leo's gf
 

Thanks, Urban. You didn't miss anything. Very few commercials last night. It ran for about half an hour before even one showed up. He goes on about innocents in jail, playing her like Paganini played his violin. -- cute

Roberto must be brilliant in the courtroom for Alonso to put up with his swagger. I have no problem with his Don Juan ways because he’s upfront about who he is. Anon@12:46, ITA that Roberto will do the right thing when he finds out. But Anna is the lowest for deceiving poor Leonardo. As soon as I saw that white coat, I knew she was wearing nada underneath.

Any good grandparent would help Paquito, but I’m surprised the law can compel grandparents to pay for a grandchild they don’t have guardianship of.

Hoping they will show how the psychologist talks to an 8-year-old about the transgender father he doesn't know he has.

On Alejandra's work wardrobe, looks like she's overcompensating for being gorgeous, young, and female to be taken seriously in her profession. Victoria's and Olivia's style is much freer.
 

I don't think anyone at Vega & Associates dislikes Roberto. I think he's generally well liked, even by Victoria.

Who they don't care for is Benjamin. I doubt Benjamin would get a steady stream of visits from his coworkers like Leonardo did.

Rocio's story will not end well.

Daniela's story is just beginning.

We know from the credits and the commercials that once Alejandra joins Vega & Associates, she steps up her wardrobe. What I want to know is what will be the catalyst for her wardrobe change.

Ana Maria is a low down ho, but I don't think she and Roberto will be found out any time soon
 

What a relief that she's going to change her wardrobe once she joins the Vega firm. Maybe Ricardo will have something to do with it

Seems Ana Brenda's hair is always the same in every novela,black and long.
 

Hi, Urban. I am not watching this show, but I had to ask about your screen cap of the cuddling couple. Are they the villains or the good guys?
 

Not just grandparents, Gustavo said the law can compel a blood relative to give child support should the father be a deadbeat. I kind of find it unfair that rather than force the father to work and fork up the money they're going straight for the grandfather. For all we know maybe he doesn't even know of the child's existence. Also the Sanchez lady was warned not to take any money that she may be offered by the child's family. They're aiming big.

Victoria's client was exasperating. Hopefully she'll press charges before the husband does major damage.

I'm hoping Roberto tells the truth when he discovers who Ana Maria is.

Anon1146
 

UA, thank you for the bullet points.
There are alot of stories and it would
Take alot of Time to cover them all.
Each lawyer has interesting cases that
Would take awhile to talk about. But I
Like the short synopsis about each story.

And as for carlos,he's got some very
Serious possessiveness problems. And
Looks like he could be very violent if it Looked like he was really gonna loose Ale(in his twisted mine)to ricky And we all know he will.
He's got it in for RIC and I want to
Know the why of it all.

As for Anna the ally cat who likes to walk around naked under raincoats, Is
A two faced skank. Yall did see that pretty Flowered (good girl) dress she
was flouncing around in,n the hospital
Room when she came to pick up leo to
"Take him home to take care of him(I'm sayin This in sugary butter wouldn't melt in Her mouth voice)". Are yall sure shes not good friends with elena?

I really like ale, she's sweet and big
Hearted, which is why she just might
Get sucked back into to the dark of
Carlos the psycho. Yall he is twisted.
When I saw that smile on his face,horn
s are under his hair and there's a big pitchfork tail tucked somewhere down
Under. Ricardo is gonna have to fight hard for her.And now that we know guns
Have been presented, carlos probably
Got one of those two.

I wondered if Roberto knows if Anna is
Leo's girlfriend. Cuz if he does and don't care I'm done with him.

They better watch for nuria, she might
Come out with blessing guns to. When
You think you been done by somebody shot em. NOT! VIOLENCE is not the Way to go.
Thank Urban. Happy weekend yall.
 

Somebody tell me who Benjiman is please. Thank you.
 

Roberto doesn't know Ana Maria is Leo's girlfriend. Leo has never introduced her to his friends since she lives far away
 

Benjamin is one of the lawyers at Vega & Associates. He made a big show of cheating being BAD and his wife would never cheat/leave, but he is having an affair with Leticia, another lawyer at the firm. He represented Mendez' wife and basically laughed in his face when Mendez confronted him.

Later, Mendez confronted him again in the parking deck when Benny was walking to his car with Leonardo. Mendez shot at Benjamin, but Leonardo got hit instead.

Lastly, Benjamin has been making a point of getting in Ricardo's grill & blasting him in the staff meetings to say that Ricardo is going to lose Daniela's case.
 

So in other words Benjamin's ass. Who's full of himself.And other stuff.
Thank you anon207.
 

No, Roberto doesn't know that Anna is Leo's novia, as he wasn't around when Leo introduced her to Alonso and Ricardo. He will probably freak when he finds out. Anna Maria is definitely a skank and I'm sure she has figured out that Roberto and Leo work for the same firm. Why else would both be under the same hospital roof at the same time on the same floor?

We don't know if she is even acquainted with Elena, but I'm guessing that she isn't. If that were the case then Leticia would know by now.

I can't wait until we see Mrs Benjamin and she finds out about Leticia.
 

I'm guessing that in the end, Benjamin will probably get fired from Vega & Associates and be replaced with Juan (poor lawyer).
 

Susanlynn, the woman in that photo is a skank who is cheating on the man who wants to marry her. Whether the office womanizer is good or bad we have yet to see.
 

"I can't wait until we see Mrs Benjamin and she finds out about Leticia."

Even Fido knows you don't sh*t where you eat."
 

Urban--I also like the bullet style. Thank you. I've started a list of the attorneys and their clients. It looks like a long, hot summer (or at least spring). There must be about 30 well known actors apparently agreeing to take short-lived parts.

Diana--hold on to your seat at the Premier Patio Table, our darling Detective Ayala, Jesus Ochoa, is one of the later appearing clients. So is Jose Elias Moreno, Jr. from Pasion, Amor Bravio and Quiero Amarte.

I spied another Sortilegio graduate, Chucho, otherwise known as Jose Carlos Ruiz, playing Paquito's granddad. JCR apparently never turns down a role, no matter how small (a legislative person behind the dias in La Candidata).

Can anyone tell me where we've seen Paquito's mother recently (Gabriela Zamora)?

Niecie: "Any good grandparent would help Paquito, but I’m surprised the law can compel grandparents to pay for a grandchild they don’t have guardianship of." Actually, in Germany (where I have relatives) grandparents are responsible. If their progeny have offspring and can't take care of them, the State will take the grandparents' money for support before the state steps in with support.

Kirby: "Nothing's bursting into flames when she and Zapper are together." No need to add a smiley--it is obvious, but then, DZ has never struck me as a sincere spark-emitter. Give me William Levy, Diego Olivera, and Cristian de la Fuente, well, one at a time anyway.

I didn't think Rocio was a client. From the way the conversation went, she's one of Vicky's besties, but maybe I missed the beginning of the phone call. I know Vicky is a softie underneath her hard-nosed exterior, but I don't think she'd go running to a client's house to check her out. Rocio called her to tell her she got beat up, but I was sure they already knew each other as friends.

Nina--Only Oli was introduced to Ana Maria as Leo's novia. As for the rest, only Ric knows he has a novia--which surprised the heck out of him....still waters run deep....too bad he chose a swift running stream for a girlfriend.

Carlos is desperate to keep Alejandra (over the top, I would say). What's his story? Does he see HER as his lunch ticket to a lazy lifestyle or is he in financial trouble and needs her resources for staying afloat? None of us on the Spring Patio believe for a minute he's sincere.
 

I think Ricardo and Alonso were introduced to Ana Maria as well.

IMO DZ had nice chemistry with Maripaz in La Fuerza Del Destino. And the wall. IMO his problem is he insists on taking these protagonist roles when he is clearly a villano.

I dont think Carlos is looking at Alejandra as a meal ticket per se; I think she represents a form of respectability for him.
 

Anita, Gabriela Zamora was Chelo in AQNMD.

We don't know anything about Carlos' family of origin -- except that Ala is his cousin -- so we don't know whether he is a spoiled trust-fund brat, a class bully, both, or neither. We also don't know why he hates Ricardo.
 

Anon207 and Urban--Thank you. Chelo--shouldn't have forgotten her so quickly.

I'm just re-reading #4.

Ricardo and Alonso were in Leo's hospital room talking and, "Alonso and Ricardo said they would love to meet the novia, then Ricardo excused himself to return to the office to work on his challenging case. Alonso shooed Olivia and Roberto out and hung back and talked briefly with Leonardo.....Anna Maria came back and Leonardo introduced them."

So, Alonso met her, but Ricardo didn't.
 

Update: "Ricardo came to visit and was introduced to Anna Maria who then took her leave." Anon, you are correct they have both met Ana Maria, but at different times.

Urban--whatever it is Carlos hates Ricardo for, it seems Ric is oblivious.
 

That's what I was thinkin, does Ricky
Know why he's hated by Carlos and did
It start with their fathers or mothers Or some such? Anxious to see what runs
Out of that cracked egg.And you better
Know it's rotten.
 

Ricardo may have been Teacher's Pet in law school, had better family connexions, got more girls because he's better-looking or has better manners... it could be anything. I hope we find out whatever it is soon.

Since so many of you like the bullet points and I'm doing 3 days out of 5 for the moment I'll keep that up. Since this isn't a Dunne deal type of story I won't mind for now.
 

Thank you Urban. Everybody remember to
Spring forward? I forgot for the first time in years, and I forgot. Time is time is time.
 

I forgot it one year and it was well into the next afternoon when I found out while talking to my mother. Ever since I put the clocks forward during the evening if I don't have to be anywhere but home. It makes it a little easier to adjust.
 

Anita, I remember Gabriela Zamora (Paquito's mom) from Para volver a amar where she was the young hussy cheating with the married with children blue collar guy played by Jesus Ochoa. She was ruthless there, interfering with him paying alimony or child support. The opposite of what she's playing here.

On the riff (or whatever it is between Carlos and Ricardo), Ricardo said to somebody that Carlos was a strong lawyer but without scruples. I wondered whether they were in law school together. I don't guess they've faced off in the court room since Ricardo is family law and Carlos is criminal law.
 

In the FULL CAST list, i did not see Ana listed. Can someone tell this actress’ name. . I would like to look her up. Here is link to full cast link.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt7907384/fullcredits
 

Ana Maria is being portrayed by Maria Jose Magan.
 

Thanks!!
 

Thanks Anon. Googling Anna Maria, it appears it might have been a stretch for wardrobe to talk her out of a clear raincoat rather than the white one. Pretty girl, not bashful. Woof

 

Ha!! Yes, she is an intriguing character so far! That's why I was asking for her name which I guess overlooked when looking through the list. At the moment, I cannot guess her motivation . When Roberto approached her, I could hardly believe the level of her willingness and flirtatiousness!!---and her nanosecond reply of "pariente" when asked who she was visiting.
 

The girl is a firstclass ho.And don't have A problem inviting any man in that ask herself to. So that tells me that she either likes the game of havin men when she wants them or she
She needs a ticket to the world of $$$
But she's not gonna limit herself to one man. Even if the one man(ticket)is her loving husband. Poor guy.

 





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