Monday, March 19, 2018
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, & más: Week of March 19, 2018
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo
As was announced last week, from now on, CarayCaray's Telemundo pages will list only the evening telenovelas. For morning listings, please consult the Telemundo website, or check the listings on Zap2It .
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Labels: enemigo, lado, principe, telemundo
Well ,Maria almost went to jail behind suit dude bad liquor. until Gabe paid the cops off.
Jose and Anel are on the outs after all the years together. Anel lost her way and her spirit when she gave up her career she never got clean from the drugs and stop living clean she went into compulsive behavior and lost her looks and mind.. he was never a womanizer..JOSE HAS MOVED ON FROM THIS MARRIAGE.
Never-the-less…Anel took care of him and sacrificed herself… they were ripped off a lot!!!Pepe went to counseling and the therapist said it might be time to move on if the marriage it not working...
Claudia /blondie is still under the thumb of victor? Frank. She has no future in television if she doesn’t comply with his demands for sex…
He owns her contract???
Gonzalo wife Alicia turned out to be the only brains in the family…
Jose accepts some songs from LUIS MIGUEL... the next bio /pronto!!
We are wrapping up Jose??!!!
But not until his first love returns to his life…...!!! from Europe!!!
Nora meets fanny for last time as Jose manager and Franny warns her abt anel and her brother, they don’t know what they are doing… evidence: rip- off .promoters!!
...Gabriel and Maria console each other as he takes a bullet and goes to jail to save her!!
Frank recruits Pedro… Pedro was fired for losing Jose??!!! No sh#$$t
Maria says goodbye to Pablo with the dimple chin... weird...they remain friends...
The show jumps ahead to
1983 and Jose is changing and having problem as technology changes the way music is presented, but he is popular
Maria visits Gabriel in jail…. And he is getting out soon.
Anel is having another baby but at high risk, the little girl was ill as well...
Anel is having problem emotionally... postpartum depression bad!! Anel is under psychotropic drugs… she may be a manic depressive…
Will their marriage be saved??!. Write to Ladies home journal..???
Ok ! I’M IN…!! [well, my, Marrido is because this is his speed. Bloodshed and mayhem!!!]
Alejandro is the man!!! DUDE IS RUNNING DOWN CORNER BOYS AND LOOKING FOR GATO? /
Poor Gatos sang like a bird…Great torture technique /woodshop!!! But it works!!!
Alejandro is too late to save the girl. the traffickers have left the stash house. AMBER ALERT IN EFFECT???
Bodies are cluttering the countryside. Massacres….
The human rights’ case worker is getting closer to Roxanna…
She hipped her to total political ramifications of her arrest and how she is a political pawn.
Roxie is getting the total picture, but she has immediate concerns. how to survive today!!
and Roxie ask for finding PUMA’s mother. Roxie is about to play…’ the -momma -we -aint- seen- each -other- for -years...- my- baby -girl -card and it’s a doozey!!
Smoothed move Roxie, get people’s momma involve!!! Puma owes you big time!!
YES..SUPER SERIES, CAUSE ... PLAYERS ARE IN POSITION FOR Dominance...
ROBERTO IS THE WORST...!! bald head bastard. BUT THE OLD MAN ... SEND HIS MAN TO DEAL WITH THE DARK KNIGHTS/TEMPLARS WEST COAST GANG in L.A.
POERTY CLASS MUST BE THE BOMB !!... Library time is coed!!! so BBF,Cubano'S NAME Is OCHUN. NICE ORISHA!!
THEN THE CALM OF THE day is broken by a challenge to fight!!
The dark knight initiates are high as a kite and ready to killrapemurderrob. and get branded!!
Roxie and Tilapia[fish] in sexual contact/ conj. visitation… And Madre guillotine is jealous????
The fight is on and Roxie wiped the floor with Puki’s ass but went into solitaire. so much for that…
So, she missed her meeting with the HUMAN RIGHTS CASEWORKER??!
THE warden knows the score, and that’s a wrap for a minute.
But Alejandro eyes the case worker… they join forces…he gives her [ Lula Pineda] the sexy-eye and she pauses…but keeps stepping…... The warden has no use for her …he related she met with Roxie…???
Roxie gets meet and greet from a dirty RAPIST. guard they put her in a BLACKHOLE SITE. CONJUGAL VIST WITH SATaN……. the old hag called it!!BUT THE female guard has eye one-eyed on the rapist pig man …the pig…
Rozanne is in a hole with roaches as big as mice. no toilet. No nada. no bed. She has flash backs that helped me. Fredrico M… [ Daniel from the Dona] ... set her up with making her the straw man is an offshore money laundry account!! She went from. a big player to jail bird. does she still have the money?? Or was it confiscated..I GOT TO GO BACK AND REVIEW?!!
...Roxie begins hallucinating Fredrico… her promised to hell!!
He tries to take IT BY FORCE her dreams. but wakes up to water torture ...by rat pig cop…
Alejandro is fighting her case in order to save her life, he has her back... Alexandro needs to move fast…she can’t take any more!!!
He wants to know abt Roxie… tilapia/Daniel is the infiltrator...??!!
Tilapia heads to guillotine Madre??! And he shows his hand ... Madre is cool with her being in the hole??!!
Alexandro checks out the office dr. Rubio…. The empty office???
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The case worker calls Puma's mom and her brother won’t let her communicate with her [Puma] daughter .....his sister from hell…the case worker... visit Puma’s mom…...lady, just grab your bag and roll, to see your child
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ears aint giving up nada so Alejandro moves on to Tilapia/fish and some chick/lawyer??cop??cop!! Alejandro tries to get PRIEST FROM HELL /EARS to give up information. Tilapia hips him to Roxie in the hole.
NARCO CAPO AND SON[ with golden gun] have a discussion ... how abt we...plan to betray the PROFESSOR/CAPOCAPO??1 dad looks disgusted!!???
Pigs have a surprise cell toss..[harassment] and I am heading inspection…on tilapia and perfume dude cell/// they find nothing, just tear-up-the joint, harassment…
Alexandro meets with foreign intelligence… and give him the works but his boss cop blocks it… Alexandro says too bad, its going down any way....
NACRO CAPO IS HAVING SON and [his son liking young apprentices’’/boys recruits ] father problem, his son is smelling himself and defying dad/old man!! Bad sign!!
Son is making decision and called his dad a coward,stupid son [of the golden gun ]is smellimg himself so dad smacks the crap outta him, so it’s on!!
Alexandro asked his coworker to watch the boss... and the detective [from LA DONA] is watching her
DARK KNIGHT RITUAL involves cannibalism. Of course!!
Alexandro is bucking for early release for EARS??? REDUCED SENTENCE to get him back on the streets… but progress is possible, and ears might have a tactical release. he needs it now!!
The co worker s were busted discussing Alexandro under the table moves and the commandeer wants to know what -is-what??
Roxie is losing her mind and fast. she is having flashbacks and regressing into her mind. For hours!! Solitary is a killer…
Ok /yes, a SUPER SERIES... SO I AM IN BECAUSE ITS GONNA BE AROUND A WHILE...next year ,and the next.. Telemundo has traded in its macho narcos for women leads!!, for a minute??
Works for me?!!
OMG.THIS show has a review and preview. Sugar -Honey-Ice-Tea…. IT JUST Ought!! THE cast is too darn large... please kill some of these people off…
So, the PROFESSORS’S HENCH MEN OR Competition finally..KNOW ROXANNA IS VITAL... FOR$$$ BUSINESS ..SHE HAD$$ INFORMATION??!!!
ROXIE IS LISTENING TO HER INNER ‘BADASS.’... AND GETTING INTO FIGHTING SHAPE…
Tilapia has to help mother/guillotine romance Roxie or else…. the punks / Madre’s boy toys will rat him out ****
Roxie must put her [ don’t know it yet] …brother in check, cause a gal -got -to -do -what- a -gal- has- to- do…like get revenge for their parents!!
Does she plan on using the LOVE LETTER MADRE wrote as an out of jail .[ be his woman/yuck].. then she can kill his funky ass???
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Alexandro... goes and speaks to the teacher…. grief counselor, she is having trouble getting the kids to open up abt? Being trafficked???
+++++Puma’s momma gets to see her daughter at last…
++++++++ Alexandro visit Roxie in jail... AND THE WARDEN BORGOS or BORGIAS??!! Has it bugged out!...ROXIE IS STILL TIGHTLIPPED…... SHE HAS A PLAN but for herself... Fredrick is dead meat!!!!Presentata..every where...Word hits the floor/ jail grapevine…... abt their meeting ...
++ Capo dad is meeting with a lawyer to find out abt Roxy’s sentence… charges etc...Her issues involve INTERPOL... AND DIPLOMATIC, BLAH BLAH BLEE BLEE….He knows Federico ?? he refers to her as Freddy fiancée~???
At least Roxanna is getting external- forces moving to get her out??!!……...Alexandro is hipping her to the PROFESSORS... $$$ involvement … his accounts $$$
Roxie is not related to Alexandro…??yes, she is?? But he let her know the score, I got use for you!1
BACK ON THE BLOCK... She has a BADASS ... I’M THAT BITCH’… REP after 25 days…Sra.zoraidia is the boss... but she recognizes Roxy’s swag!!!
……Rapist pig cop tries to influence the warden Borgias... to lean hard her to set an example...but warden s=tells him to stay in his lane...+++
+++Madre is happy but Fang. Mr. perfume [ female fishy smell] fetish puts him in bad mood...
There is new inmate…++
………Grateful to be having a hot shower…...Roxie remember her intro to jail walk…While she showers off dungeon dirt. Etc.…Of course, Zoraida decides to fu00k with her while she is naked she threatens to sic Mamba on her... Out in the yard… she still catching beef… but she has a plan to get Puma...’ Mommied- up’…!!___
…. NEW IMATE:Gatos the child rapist is the new inmate and Madre and his crew don’t like short eye pedophile…
Say goodbye to that ‘redeye’ [ass]... short eyes [child molesters] ….
-----Meanwhile Tilapia junkie roomie is going off…and leads to show down...?? a Madre set up??!!
……...The professor’s competition has their eye on Roxie??!! But decide to turn her ...to what.... their Chula-Moll…??
……...Lula is confronting the warden Borgas, abt Puma’s momma visit!!!
===Tilapia must fight the ‘Kid’, due to Madre capricious mood swing…all because Roxy gave him the brush off..After leaving the hole...???
====Golden dude’s, dad [old man] is very upset with him... or not… they reconcile…over a big party……
...Puma is escorted to the visitor area and Roxie hips her to a gift.....Mother daughter reunion: Anita /puma is in shock… hugs her -to- death…...
Roxie ... girl !! you are in like flint!!
ZORIADA is the old lady Lifer??!!she knows her time is up?? as boss bitch??
---Alexandro is trying to get EARS an early release...
-Roxanna has a visit from herself. she is going bonkers or she is rising upwards and out of fear.
.. Guillotine calls a out a favor from the warden to visit Roxanne’’
Dad..CAPO has a heart to heart with golden Gun son…The son is setting father up for a fall…with the plan to take down the professor.
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Gulletino relies on the horror of solitary confinement and lies to her fact. That he is trying help her, ...she recognizes him as her parents' assassin but accept a dove dark chocolate smooth blend!! She must make a move to survive ...
SHE IS ACCEPTING THAT SHE HAS TO KILL TO SURVIVE…
LIKE … she must screw Madre /guillotine yuck...
She rather eats rat leftovers… and she does…
Alexandro meets With EARS while the warden and lady admin. ... THEY listen and watch…Ears give them some information... and the warden sabotages Alexandro … and informs his supervisor…
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Roxanne’s subconscious calls her to bring up all thought and feeling related to her childhood... she has a regression session on her own volition and remembers WHO Guillotine!!
ROXANNE REMEMBERs... HER BUJI / BOUGIEE’…LIFE... decides to live….....YOU HAVE TO DESTROY!!!
[THANKS STEVE FOR ...’BUJI’…!!!]
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Tilapia listens to EARS good news!! Early release imminent???
Especially after a great outcome??@@.... kids are rescued..
The swat team is laying siege at the hotel,,,,, they open fire on the trafficker gang and WHAT ABT THE CHILDREN INSIDE. THE KIDS ARE RESCUED…!!
The kids are all starting to look like the kids trafficked in OTRA LADO???
Alexandro remember his childhood protecting Roxanne... and he returns to torture GaTo some more and turns him over to the feds…
But he still gets chewed out by his commandants… no more rouge. COP.
WHITE SLAVERY /BLANCO ESCLAVO.
ALJANDRO meets with his F.B.I CONTACT… who alerts him to LULA PINEA … [love interest on the way???]
Rapist pig cop is messing with Tilapia… Tilapia is wishing him dead...
Then pig rapist cop..tries to make time with the yard rats...[like the gang banger girls… who hate him as well] but they paly the game, she promises to comes back for more ..dope.sex with emn ,ciggies..>>>
Alejandro is greeted like a hero by the lady cops..[ from LA DONNA…]WHO MENTIOND SOMETHING ABT THE Psychologist…
who was fired!!
why???
""sorry abt the NUM# order.. basically that cover the week..
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LUIS MIGUEL was the musician featured last week on JOSE JOSE??!!
WHO THE HECK KNOWS HOW HE WILL BE SQUOOZE IN???
WHERE HOW WHEN..??
SUDAY NIGHT LIKE JUAN GABRIEL????
...CAUSE HE JUST HADA HECK OF A COMMERCIAL..PROMO.. SUNDAY MOST LIKELY?!!!
FUNNY THE GUY IN THE PROMO IS NOT LIKE THE DARK , SKINNY/GAY/ SHORT/ YOUNG GUY IN JOSE JOSE
artistic license??'
....my husband says he was an excellent singer.. so I will most likely watch some of ot.. if the music is presented??!!!!!
We again see Joel enter Richard García’s office and see Sofía. García tells him that her being alive is completely confidential. Joel starts shooting off his mouth, and Sofía is ready to walk out.
García wants Joel’s help, but Joel is, like always, bitter. García tells him to listen. Two years ago when it was time for Sofía’s execution, some new investigations contradicted what she said in her confession. It had to do with Senator Irving Cummings and the criminals involved with child trafficking here in the US. The FBI asked the judge to postpone the execution and to examine these proofs. There was absolute discretion; the press was told she was going to see someone about an appeal. On the way somewhere (I wasn’t clear where.) a tractor trailer came from nowhere and ran into the van with Sofía inside. The guards were killed instantly and Sofía almost lost her life.
García tells grumpy Joel that it wasn’t an accident. They caught the driver a couple of days later and he admitted it was Cummings who hired him to kill Sofía. Unfortunately he died that same night in his cell. The judge then agreed for Sofía to be placed in witness protection. Joel keeps sneering the whole time. Sofía storms out and is seen by Patrick on her way out. García tells the ranting Joel that maybe those “proofs” of Sofía’s guilt were planted. He says he’s gotten to know Sofía and doesn’t believe she’s capable of killing anyone.
Sad sack Max goes on with his story to Eliza. She says she understands about Charlie, but what about his two other children. He says he had to choose and, by the way, Katrina and Tomás are healthy and have a strong mother.
Across the Tijuana fence Carmen tells the kids she got a visa to come to visit. She says she’ll be able to grab them by the ears in person. When the older kids step away for a while, Carmen asks Rodrigo why he was asking about his father. He says he thinks he saw him yesterday.
Eliza tells Max it’s over for them. He tells her it appears she didn’t waste any time. He saw her with “that guy”. [Did the writers forget he knows Andrés?] “And, by the way, how old is that boy? Nine? A few months after you got here you were with him.” She tells him to get out and not to approach the kids.
Charlie asks Jennifer to call Rodrigo’s mom so he can see him again. When she makes the call, Eliza is out jogging and flatly refuses.
Max goes to tells his trouble to Steve, who isn’t very sympathetic. He tells Steve he was so happy with Eliza, and his life with Jennifer is a living hell. But he says that now Eliza no me quiere ver ni en pintura. (Doesn’t even want to see a portrait of him.) Max tells Steve that Eliza has a man and has a child with him. Max has the cojones to be jealous, saying it drove him nuts to see her with the other guy. He still loves her.
Max wants Steve to contact Eliza and give her money. He says it isn’t a lot right now, but he’ll send some every month. He thinks she needs money because she works in a bakery [!!] and the guy works construction.
We see Sofía’s room that is full of pictures of Alondra. Richard has shown up and is trying to talk her into working with Joel. She says that “they” threatened her. If Joel had believed her, things might have been different.
Paula is telling Ernesto it will cost big bucks to whack Juan Estevez in prison when Julián comes in and gushes over Paula’s appearance. Then he hits his dad up for some money. Ernesto has obviously ruined this kid.
Yikes! Benny shows up with a huge wad of money and asks Tomás to keep it overnight. He’s going to take it to the immigration lawyer in the morning. Tomás says no, but it looks like he’s convinced at the end.
Annoying techno music tells us we’re in a disco in Puebla. Julián buys some pills from a skeevy looking guy. His pretty girlfriend, Vane (probably short for Vanessa) comes to join Julián. He tells her he has a ticket to paradise, and we see her take a pill, but not him. We see fuzzy camera work to show Julián and Vane are probably high as kites dancing in the disco. Later Julián is in a hotel room making love with Vane.
The children notice that Eliza is unhappy. Rodrigo knows what’s wrong, but he doesn’t tell the others, at least not yet.
Patrick shows up at Joel’s, and the two of them do that weird alternating sentences between English and Spanish. It doesn’t matter which language is used, Patrick sings the same song he sang 10 years ago. Joel is impulsive, yada yada. Joel has decided to join forces with the FBI. But his plan is not to just get Cummings; he plans to get Sofía and Ernesto as well.
Some guy called Carlos shows up with Senator Slimy to see Ernesto and Paula. What this Carlos guy says makes little sense to me. I guess because Juan Estevez hung himself in prison (right), Ernesto has to leave the country. Three consulates are free: Barcelona, Rio de Janeiro or Los Angeles. [Wanna guess which city he’ll choose?] He doesn’t want to leave, saying he won’t have enough time to campaign.
Julián wakes up to see Vane jump from the balcony and fall, presumably, to her death. He calls his father, who, to his credit, interrupts his meeting to take the call. Sobbing, Julián tells his father that she jumped from the balcony and it’s all his fault. Ernesto calls the guards who apparently go places with the boy to get him out of there.
thanks so much novelera! I love reading your recaps, you add so much color and life to the story.
I see Joel is still wearing the watch.
loved the double take Patrick did as Sofia whisked past him, kind of odd how all that Patrick does is follow Joel around.
so what is Richard's plan?
so now Max wants his kids, he wants them to hear his side of the story (since no one else cares what he has to say) good that Steve calls him on wanting to buy in, and he wants no part of it, (maybe Max should do something nice like put together the paperwork so they can be documented)
that's kind of a secret room Sofia has all the pics of Alo in that she keeps locked, it's gonna be a while before Joel is going to even consider Sofia did it for her daughter.
ah, Carmen has the kids not tell Eliza she is coming, it will be a surprise, yep.
yes, we only see Vanessa take a pill, but later up in the room she wants paradise to last and they both take one.
Don Carlos I think is the big cheese and strategist for the party, I think his point is that Juan's death will bring up the whole thing with Sofia and all and it will be used by his opponents, and if they are successful it would kill his chances of ever being president, whereas if he backs off it won't be an issue and later on he would be able to return and run.
MAX is a wuss, personified.. he is jealous of Eliz 's, new baby daddy=..OMG..He is the baby daddy????????????
HALIMACANDY: Does Wuss Max know that Eliza is with Andres ?
Deb: I'm not so sure about Richard Garcia of the FUN. Could he be a spy for slimy United States Senator Irving Cummings (R-TX) ?
Novelera: Julian is just like his Daddy: fucking with prostitutes.
Wow, novelera! What a terrific recap: clear, detailed, complete. ¡Muchísimas gracias!
I fear you're right about Tomás finally giving in to Benny's request. And in a telenovela, no good deed will go unpunished.
I'm a bit confused about Sofía's locked closet/room with all the photos of Alondra. Has Sofía been stalking her??
I think Ernesto said at some point that Don Carlos was his mentor. I loved your question about which of the three consulates Ernesto would choose.
deb, you have an eagle eye. I didn't notice that Joel was still wearing the watch. Uh oh!
And yes, Patrick's only function in the novela seems to be to follow Joel around and tell him he's too impulsive. It also gives the two of them a chance to show off their ability to switch needlessly back and forth between Spanish and English.
Good point about how Max could actually make himself useful by providing documentation for Eliza, Tomás, and Karina.
I believe I saw an interesting PSA. As high as she was, it appeared that Vane had a condom in her hand, preparing to place it...
Novela : thanks so much..thanks for recaps
Deb:
a mother watchful eye....dang!!Sofia is alive and not stalking her own child..just keeping taps!!...... so the spoiled rotten dopefiend son.. has dead body on his hands!!
Steve: ....anybody but Max is cool with me...
Juanita: Don Carlos.. the crux of the matter.. the brains behind Ernestos.. puppet master...Paula..??!!..
Tilapia beats the crap out of Salsa/kid..
Alajandro convinces...Teacher to go back to work in Dunas prison … and spy on Roxie...
Alejandro IS TRYING ...hard ... [ lip- lock and dead sister guilt...] ...TO convince teacher to go back to Dunas prison and spy on Roxie…
Her sister was murdered by Cumbre’s/professor/
Capo lawyer Cabrales…. has a hot line on lockdown to the Capo…?
They are investigating Tilapia.....it called for an all-out misdirection of info…
Thank god the lawyers phoneline is tapped by the feds…
Teacher returns to Dunas… , warden is very happy...
Madre ‘s boy the kid/ Salsero is messed up but not fatal...
The dark knights kidnap the lady cop /Olivia… for….???Roxy.. she has information ..key to the operation..
Alejandro checks on Roxie… and tries to get information abt the knight ... who kidnapped Olivia…
The FEDs, roll with Roxie to the knights templar hideout…
Swat going in…plan?? What plan...!! they make a Roxie exchange...!!!
But Alejandro makes a side move and Roxana is bait…...
I hope Eliza and Sofia don't end up with a wuss, Max and an ass, Joel.
Bella
Bella, yep, Joel is ruling himself out for me as the guy she's with at the end. Richard Garcia is MUCH better looking and believes what she says. Also, not to be too crass, but the actor playing Joel is just NOT the usual smokin' hot galán. I'll grant that he's a good actor.
WELL ANEL IS A HOT MESS, AND WHEN SHE RUNS INTO CLAUDIA ,SHE IS SO JEALOUS SHE CAN'T SEE STRAIGHT..
JOSE IS GONNA BE WORKING WITH THE MODEL HE IS ATTRACTED TO..!!
MARIA AND GABRIEL ARE STARTING A NEW LIF WITH HOT FAKE PASSPORTS..
GONZALO WAS BONKING THE BABY'S NANNY..MARGARITA FIRED HER DUMB ASS..
VICTOR FRANK has made a ton of money and owns the town.. Claudia is his wife and she is chasing his underlings,, and they are running away in order to see another day..
nora and lady-boss are trying to save Jose's $$$$royalties. so they hook him up with anew /fabulous song writer.so his name can be added to the song..ownership!!.
Novelera: We need to see more of Richard's backstory because he might be the spy for the Slimy United States Senator Irving Cummings (or Hastings) (R-TX) & Ernesto, who wants to MAKE MEXICO GREAT AGAIN.
Bella: Jennifer can have Max. I'd prefer to see Eliza with NOBODY at all. I mean, Margot might have feelings for Steven & Andres, who knows because I'm still wondering how did Maria die ?
Juanita:
BOLD PREDICTION: Tomas will end up like Rodrigo in "BAJO EL MISMO CIELO" because it's foreshadowing Tomas getting into a deep life of crime, which will result in Narco Gangs, which will likely result in him getting arrested & sentenced to DEATH.
Benny is a BAD FRIEND.
Steve: I do not think the FBI guy, Richard, is part of the narco group. He had no reason to save Sofia if he believed her to be guilty.
Bella
Hello, patio friends.
I am, as usual, fashionably late to the party, but can't pass up the opportunity to thank our recapper for another great recap and to add to the flurry of completely justifiable epithets regarding Max and Joel, our ungallant galans.
Novelera, you have a gift of condensing 45 minutes of dense dialog and pretty intricate plot details into a concise, clear and entertaining recap.
As far as our galans are concerned, they are just the worst.
Halimacandy, I loved your qualification of Max. He is indeed a wuss, and a sniveling coward and a total hypocrite among other things. I was totally disgusted with his excuse to Eliza for abandoning his children- that they were healthy and would get by without his help. What if they were to fall ill too? What if they needed his help, emotional of financial? What if Eliza died and they were left without anyone to care for them? And then to have the gall to tell Steve, after 10 year of not caring what happens to them and whether they are alive or dead, that they are his children and his is concerned for their welfare? Absolutely despicable!
Bella, i totally agree with your qualification of Max as a macho hypocrite. He is a bigamist, he cheated on Eliza for years with another woman, had a child from her, abandoned Eliza and his children for 10 years without bothering to check that they are ok and now he dares to complain that she had a child with another man. Even if it were true, he is the last person that should opine about it and I loved Steve so honestly chewing him out! I actually like Steve more and more with every episode and might even prefer him over Andres as a love interest for Eliza.
As far as Joel is concerned, he is so dumb that I don't know how he was hired by the Interpol in the first place. He believes every shady character spewing complete nonsense but fails to even consider that Sophia was framed, even though everything logically points towards this option. He does not deserve Sophia and she should never forgive him.
Irene
Irene: Joel is so damn STUPID, he's still wearing the same watch with the GPS Tracker. Did I just hear Estevez offed himself in prison in Colombia ? I'm betting someone whacked him to make it look like suicide, so that he wouldn't spill the beans to anyone.
Bella: Max is a DEADBEAT Daddy, who doesn't give a SHIT about his kids... Sad!
Irene: I hope Karma hits Max so BIGLY that we'll NEVER hear from his hypocritical ass ever again.
Bella
Steve, we still don't know what happened to Estevez, but if in the next episode he is found dead, it is definitely not due to suicide, since we were told in the current episode that both Ernesto and Carlos hired people to eliminate him.
Irene
Bella, I like it that Steve is not guapo. It is much more realistic that way. To be honest, I am getting tired of all of those flawless galans who had so much surgery done that they look like plastic Ken dolls, good looking but fake. Here they give as a more normal looking, believable protagonists.
I had the opportunity to watch some Chilean novelas and the difference with the Mexican ones is startling: all of the actors basically look like common, normal people. It is very refreshing to see a telenovela where the protagonists look like your mother without a make up or your next door plumber neighbor.
Irene
I'm sorry, but I won't be able to do a recap tonight. I hurt my left hand earlier today, and right now I can't use it to type.
Juanita, I'm SO sorry you've hurt yourself! Don't feel bad about the recap. Hopefully someone can pitch in.
Thanks, novelera. Perhaps someone new to recapping could give it a try. I started under similar circumstances. I figured, "heck, something is better than nothing," and I was right.
Irene: Ernesto determined to get into Los Pinos (Residence of the President).
He'll make the Underwood's blush.
I couldn't agree with most of y'all better.
I don't care for Joel. Even though I think that Telemundo has more realistic galans than Televisa
But I just don't like Joel
Does anyone still think Patrick is a spy for Ernesto? It seems that some now believe that Richard Garcia is Cummings spy.
Eliza Will end up with anybody but the wuss, coward, machismo, disgusting Max.
If Patrick is a spy, he has lots of patience and must be paid handsomely for 10 years of spying on Sofia.
Julian is brought home, he's a bit wasted, Ernesto, with drink in hand, pries some facts out of him, and where is your tie? (wrapped around Vanessa's neck)
Ernesto tells Julian how stupid he is, he should let him rot in jail, like my mother Julian repies, oooo...
Rod, such a nice kid, wants to sleep with Eliza, no, not scared, I just want to hug you till you feel better. oh and he didn't tell anyone about that guy that looks like his dad.
Max drags in late and is jumped on by Jen, you are the one obsessed with Eliza, Max tells her.
the Devil's gang check out their security footage, Benny's got the money.
Joel meets with Richard, he wants to see Sofia's file, nope, classified, her new name?, Alejandra Miranda, Rich hands him Cummings file, this is the only investigation we are doing, afterwards Richard will help find Irene's killer, later Joel has his people check out Alejandra.
newspapers aren't so good this morning, news of Juan's death or news of rich girl falling to her death, Ernesto tells Paula they have to discredit the girl, link her to prostitution.
Joel breaks into Sofia's house, and into the locked room, goes past all the pics of Alo and finds a box, he takes pics of them with his phone, oh wait Sofia is home, he watches her undress, Richard calls her, something is not right, she checks around but Joele has made it out.
Irv meets with Ernesto, pitches the consul thingy, don't you see, in LA we could prey on undocumented minors.
the cops have come to question Julian, he makes a break for it on his moto, but is later stopped and arrested, Paula is on the scene, detective Durango, may I have a word with you.
Joel checks out the pics Sofia had, they are undocumented minors, he wants to send Sofia back to jail, Patrick states, she cannot be charged with another crime, yes but Alejandra Miranda can, he'll tip the police anonymously. (so this was Richards idea bringing Sofia and Joel back together, for???) Patrick concedes, if Joel has indisputable proof, he will help.
we see Sofia approach a mother and daughter, she warns her that her boss is a child molester, he'll have you deported and get custody of your daughter, the mother doesn't believe her.
Rod walks up to Max who is stalking Eliza, you are my dad, right? and Max sees that he is, but Eliza breaks it up and tells Max to leave, he is there for his kids, Andres tells him to leave, but Eliza gets between them, and Max goes.
Andres would have liked to have popped him, Eliza thanks him but doesn't want to cause him any trouble, Andres says he would do anything for Eliza and her kids, for his family, what?, this stops Eliza in her tracks. (is this one of those moments here where things change)
Tomas has been looking for Benny all day to get rid of that $30K, and finds him at home ??, and meets the gang, and a fist to the gut, I think it's a question of who they will kill first, but Tomas wants to fight a guy without a gun, ok, (is 66 the leader?) and they make a deal, if Tomas wins, they go free, ok, but you will be fighting Tiny (who is anything but).
ok, so where is Rod, Eliza wants to know so they can have their sit down, hmm, hiding in Max's car on the way home.
MANY thanks, deb, for stepping up and giving us this excellent recap. I'm typing this with one hand, so it will be short, but I did have a few thoughts as I watched the novela. I understand how Sofia got photos of Alo as a teenager, but there were also photos of her as a young girl, and also some that looked like school photos. How did she get those?
Senator Slimy seemed especially slimy in his talk with Ernesto. He seemed to glow with pleasure when talking about all the boys and girls with undocumented parents in LA. An untapped mine to explore. He tells Ernesto "You help me as consul, I'll help finance your campaign."
When/how did Rodrigo get into Max's car?
Juanita:
1.) Slimy United States Senator Irving Cummings (R-TX) is an EVIL piece of SHIT. I'm wondering if Karina or Alondra get abducted by the thugs of Ernesto & Cummings ?
2.) How did Rodrigo sneak into Max's automobile ?
3.) I do NOT trust either Patrick or Richard Garcia.
4.) What's Lorena's backstory ? I'm interested to see her angle in all of this.
5.) Tomas falling into life of crime. He's NOT going to be among the living when all is said & done.
6.) Jennifer will continue upping the ante.
HALIMACANDY: How long before the prisoners discover the undercover cop is the FAKE Prisoner ?
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Caray: NOT a recap ..just comments...cause we got years to go..??why lord..why??
STEVE: THEY ARE already..THERE.. ZORAIDA THINKS ROXY IS ONE AS WELL!!!
ENEMIGO #120
THE FIGHT IS OVER, and Tilapia is under scrutiny
The SWAT TEAM is trying to save Olivia and exchange Roxie… but no good brains got blown out and rescue secured…
Mexico City
Alexandro hops the metro and runs into a bunch of juvenile delinquents and almost gets killed on hummer /for petty bull sh$%T
The teacher Miramar and Olivia meet up, they discuss Al’s temperament. They both want him!!
when lady cop listens into to the capo lawyer/Cabrales talk to their boss, who covers tilapia cover...
But old dad is still suspicious… then Calabres? uses another phone
Back in jail:Tilapia has another day to live…
but short-eyes, Gatos is ass busted and given women’s job, laundry... Freaky Perfumer is breaking down kitty…Tilapia digs the scene…. New putty cat/Gatos, can’t do a thing abt it... ...
Tilapia is the man.. the cock -of-the-walk..
Madre hates his admiration…suspect he is military trained...
Alejandro runs down the inside plant down to a buddy... hope old pal isn’t a snitch??!!!!
Girl jail: Zoraida invites Roxy for game of Old Maid [wish]... with psychos wild…
Tilapia meets with commander/ authorities... and his mission…
Roxie ‘s background is discussed, from call girl to fiancée??... and they see she was a pawn all along…Tilapia is over confident...!!he thinks he can play the long-con...!!
The ladies are playing pittypat and Roxy is winning... and the Madre crew slide in…
Luis /golden gun calls Frank/ white boy in L.A. for armory…
White boys hate him but love the pay... then.. FREDRICO SITS DOWN AND CALLS THE SHOTS$$$... Fred nego. With his financiers…. for Roxy release????
After the card game tilapia and Roxy discuss rolling out!!New game... truth /dare but mortal version…
Alexandro tries to convince Tilapia to bounce. And see Mariam and they has a quick kiss…
But they bring LA VIGA. Aka
. PUMA in to their discussion, he was her arresting officer,
later when Al and Puma ,they meet she plans to kill him, but he recruits her to save Roxy.who da thunk it?!!
Zoraida want Roxy to tell her, Roxy’s identity… ??? cop or what /professional criminal??
So, they do a stand off and THEY grit and jump bad and pop off... but that’s it, just selling wolf tickets … SO FAR..
But it isn’t over... Roxy must do the NASTY with Guillotine to survive!!!!
YES ITS GETING UGLY..
BUT I BELIEVE TOMAS IS GOING TO BE THE HERO OF THIS STORY..
Tomas is our DACA DREAMER// he has got to make it as the first generation......educated in American and all round..good guy.. !!!!!
but he has to deal with the streets , now comes his street education , how to survive and protect his family...!!
Tomas,he is going to have to be the man of this family!!
love him!!!
Joel brings so much danger into the lives of those around him, this is the worse possible thing that could happen to Sofia.
I don't think they can charge Sofia with another crime because she is officially dead.
the box with pics that Joel found, hmm, was this from Irv's place, and it's in the air duct like at his house.
where Gabriel Porras (Ernesto) really shines is when everything goes wrong for him.
I always feel like taking a shower after the Senators been around.
where is Vicentito and friends?
about time for Max's Karma (or is it Carmen) to catch up with him.
HALIMACANDY: Roxana has to have sex with the monster, who butchered her parents ? SICK.
"LADO":
Deb: I do NOT see a happy ending for Tomas, who falling into a life of crime. I see either prison or death.
I think that's Tomas will be involved in entrapping the gang .
Bella
Bella: Joel will NOT find out the truth until it's too late when more innocent people get in danger.
Speaking of idiots, whatever happened to Dr. Marquez ? Did Ernesto, the Latina Doug Stamper & Co., have him whacked to keep him quiet ?
I'm not sure, but I think those photos of the little girls were the people Sofía is trying to save now, as opposed to the photos that Alondra found in Senator Slimy's house. At any rate, it wasn't the same box.
So Joel, the a**hoel, is going to anonymously turn in Alejandra Miranda? Right about now I like Ernesto better than I like him, and that's saying a lot! Yes, Bella, Joel is going to have a big, rude awakening when he finds out ALL the truth about Sofía. If this were a Univisión novela, the truth wouldn't be revealed until the second to last episode. But sometimes Telemundo doesn't make us suffer so much.
I'm pretty sure Tomás offered to fight to save BOTH their lives. Benny is a candidate for the Darwin Award for his stupidity in robbing Devil's crew. But I think they're both going to make it out alive. Maybe Tomás has been studying Muay Thai martial arts and beats the tar out of the big guy. I know a young man who competes in Muay Thai fights, and these guys have mad skills!
And Gabriel Porras very subtly showed with his facial expression what he thought of Slimy's proposal to use a position at the consulate to get more young girls. Did I miss something? Has Ernesto already said he'd choose LA over Barcelona and Rio?
Deb, I loved Max getting caught by Karma or Carmen. If Carmen gets her hands on him, he's toast!
DEB:
THANKS.... so, milktoast looking , Joel wants to arrest witness protection Miranda aka Sofia.
not gonna happen F.B.I is all involved!!
Ernesto son needs to go to jail.. did that bum actually say..do you know who my father is..
throw him in jail...!!
Hi all. I saw the doctor today about my hand, and he wants me to have some x-rays. I doubt anything is broken, but one never knows. Anyway, he said I should give the hand a rest until the x-ray (which I'll have tomorrow). So I'm afraid I still won't be able to do a recap. I'm hoping I WILL be able to do one tomorrow (Thursday).
Many thanks again to deb for stepping in last night, and to all who contributed interesting comments. Novelera, I too am almost liking Ernesto more than Joel. It's hard to imagine that Sofía will wind up with Joel. Arrgh.
Sorry about your hand Juanita...hope you heal soon. I can take a stab at recapping tonight if no one else can....
Nett
Wow Nett that would be so nice of you to pitch in and help.
I watch the episodes late at night on Telemundo's app after they are uploaded at ~1:00am and if I try the Spanish captions for a word or two that I can't hear right, the caption text is cut off by my tablet's bottom margin.
I'm impressed with the high level of dedication everyone and our recappers put forth.
Thank you everyone
I think that Sofia became a photographer right after her 'supposed' death and that's how she got the pictures of Alondra because she she followed Alondra around while she was growing up and to date
I don't think Eliza knows she is alive and in the witness protection program.
I want Tomas to come out ahead and not join up with the gang. He did have the balls to stand up to the gang leader and said he would fight him, that is until he saw the big body guy.
Here goes.... Using bullet point for now but as I progress...I hope to get more creative like the rest of you guys:
• We open with Julia bribing an officer to free Julian. She is successful and when they return home, Ernesto chews him out and sends him to his room like the little boy he apparently is. Ernie then tells Julia he plans take up the consultant’s offer to LA (I think)
• We switch to Tomas fighting the gang member. Despite the David and Goliath mismatch, Tomas prevails. He attempts to walk away from it all but the gang leader tells him he can’t…and tells him and Benny that he will be in touch. (I hate when the good guy gets suckered into something because of a dumb friend)
• After arriving home, Max finds Rodrigo in his back seat and freaks out a little. Rod confronts him about being his dad. Max confesses and says he wants to be a part of his life. Rod is cool with this…and the realization that Charlie is his bro. The housekeeper runs outside in a panic explaining that Charlie can’t breathe. Max later arrives at the hospital with Charlie in his arms and Rod close behind
• In the meantime Eliza and Andreas are searching all over for Rod. While in the park, she receives a call that Rod is with Max at the hospital.
• Apparently, Jen went to visit her half bro Steve…but really to spy on Max. She gives Steve the 3rd degree about his conversation and time spent with Max…attempting to confirm that Max told her the truth about his where abouts the night before. While speaking with Steve about her issues with Max….and his obsession with Eliza (and not realizing her own obsession with a man that does not want her)….she receives a call from Max but does not answer. We don’t see their time in NY so maybe she was not delusional when she tells Steve that their time spent in NY was good. She is cynical and accuses Max of waiting for Charlie to die.
• Eliza arrives at the hospital and Rod goes to see Charlie….asking him not to die
• Jen returns home and is told by the housekeeper what happen and off she runs to the hospital
• Eliza overhears Rods consoling Charlie….and soften ups some with Max….. Eliza and Rod leave the hospital…..in the nick of time since Jen is on her way….and what a fight that would be
• On the drive home, Eliza and Rod discuss Eliza lying about Max….as expected…he doesn’t know the whole story and is hostile with his mom. I suspect if he was older and really knew what a coward his dad was and had actually abandoned the family for 10 yrs without so much as a word..he might feel different. But he’s not
Nett
At the dinner table….after a some conversation about Tom’s fight…Rod demands that Eliza explain about Max. While I think he’s a good kid…I want to reach thru the screen and shake him…..cause he has no idea…that he and his family got short changed by Max….not by Eliza. The family gives Eliza the 3rd degree about Max, his other family ….meanwhile Alondra goes to bed….looking a little depressed by it all. Rod fill’s the family in about Charlie and rightfully so the older kids are angry and question Eliza justifying Max’s abandonment.
• Steve flashes back to conversations with Max about Eliza….and remembers their talks while he was in the hospital.
• Sofia is watching the same news cast that Alondra is watching …..I didn’t catch everything but they both were drawn to the announcement…and I think it was about Cummings.
• Karina lays down the reality to Eliza about Max’s actions….despite Rod’s and Eliza protest about Charlie’s illness. Later in their bedroom, Karina fills in Alondra about Max and the lie of him being a great dad. Alondra commemorates….as she too reflects that her dad is a bum as well.
• Later that night….Ben tells Tom that having Max as a dad is a benefit because he’s a US citizen. While talking about this….a gang member comes up and offers Tom a package that he refuses. Ben …..who now wants to think….tells Tom he’s making a mistake by rebuffing the gang. Too bad he didn’t have this kind of smarts before he decided to rob them.
• Max calls Eliza and updates her about Charlie’s condition. Rod….naively thinks that Charlie’s mom is nice and she wouldn’t mind if they visit Charlie at the hospital.
• Next day, Julia and the FBI guy are in her apartment discussing the Cummings situation. Julia is bent on taking him down but the FBI guy is more concerned about her safety. He closes that when Cummings fall….so will Ernie.
• Joe and Patrick are having another enlightening conversation about Sofia and her apparent guilt….. and his conviction that Sofia is still trafficking…right under the FBI’s noses. The voice of reason, Pat tells Joel he’ll do nothing without proof.
• FBI guy and Sofia have a heart to heart about her being patient. A guy by the name of Jeff Murray comes up in the conversation. I didn’t catch everything….so a little help please
• Tom skips class and goes to the bakery. He complains that schools not that important for those undocumented as Eliza tells him to go to class
• At the hospital Max and Jen discuss Charlie….but then Max goes to the office. Of course Jen is a little suspicious of this.
• Paula and Ernie discuss Ernie’s next move while Paula eyes Julian at the pool. Like the snake she is, she slithers over to Julian to see how far the apple fell from the tree.
• At the hospital…Jen discovers by accident that another woman accompanied Max to the hospital with Max.
• Cut to previews for tomorrow.
Nett
Wow, Nett! What a terrific recap! I haven't seen the episode yet (I'm on West Coast time), but even if you're on the East Coast, I'm amazed that you were able to do the recap so quickly. I loved your snarky statement about Paula: "Like the snake she is, she slithers over to Julian to see how far the apple fell from the tree."
Thanks so much for doing this. I hope you'll consider becoming a regular recapper. You clearly have a gift for it.
Thanks Juanita. I actually wrote the recap as I was watching. I didn't trust my memory and couldn't get my CCs to work so I was typing as the show went along. This is the one time I was appreciated commercials so I could cathup.
I understood big picture what was going on but if there was nuanced conversation....I probably didn't catch it...so please help out. In particular I didn't understand the details of the conversation with the FBI guy but I knew what the discussion was about. Same thing with Ernie and Paula...I did't catch the details but knew what they were discussing.
Nett
Nett, your first recap was exceptional! And without CC's!
I can elaborate about Paula's conversation with the detective in the car while Julian was spread-eagled on the ground. He was going to be honorable and refuse her bribe, but she showed him a picture of himself, apparently accepting some kind of bribe on the freeway - perhaps letting "cargo" go through without being inspected. He folded right away and took the money.
If I remember correctly, when "Devil" was telling Tomás that would now have to be part of the gang, the gang leader threatened harm to his jefecita (mom). So I was kind of surprised when he later refused to accept whatever the other gang guy brought for him to hold for the gang.
I thought Steve was putting two and two together, remembering Eliza telling him that she came to his hospital room because her husband had not come to pick her up at the bus station and she feared he was in the hospital. I think he's figuring out that the woman who appears in his dreams is Eliza.
What Sofía and Alondra were both watching, horrified, was the news that Ernesto was going to be the new Mexican consul in Los Angeles.
Jeff Murray is the guy that was seen walking down the street with the undocumented mother and the child. Sofía tried to warn the mother, but she wouldn't listen. At first Richard told her there was nothing the FBI could do. Later on, he told her he had good news. They discovered this Jeff Murray had a prior for molesting children in another state, and maybe they could do something to protect the little girl.
Juanita, I'm SO glad you saw a doctor. If you felt pain when typing, I was afraid something was broken. Hopefully a couple days icing it and resting will put you right.
Just thought of another interesting thing that happened. Paula told the detective, after he'd agreed to the bribe in order to release Julián, that she wanted Julián's tie returned to her. Remember they did a close-up of poor Vane's body showing that the tie she jumped with around her neck had his initials, and presumably his DNA, on it. Later on Don Carlos, the political mover and shaker brought the tie to Ernesto's home, gave it to Paula, and made some cryptic remark about knowing everything that goes on.
wow, a fresh recap, everyone has their own style and yours is really nice, thank you so much Nett!
I like Rod, he is the innocent guy that is going to bring it all together, but yes, he wasn't born when the family sat in a bus station waiting for Max, wasn't there to see their house taken away, and was the one that ate Eliza's marvelous cookies rather than baked them.
ah Charly is 13, Karina does the numbers, Max had a family when he was visiting us in Mexico, Tomas doesn't do the numbers, he is done with Max.
Karina rips Alo's book away to rant about her missing dad returning, Alo who just saw (on tv) her dad was returning says welcome to the club.
did Richard almost say he cares for Sofia, anyway Jeff is wanted in Indiana ?? for child molestation, he's off to Indiana to get the particulars, it will be a couple of days, he warns Sofia to be patient, of course she will.
hmm, Paula gave the detective a check for 500K pesos to make Julian's case go away, and to get the tie back, but Don Carlos delivers it to Ernie.
the nurse at the hospital was kicking Jen out beause it's only for family, Jen tells her she is the mother, oh, I thought the other women with Max was his wife.
Thanks to everybody for pitching in and recapping. Special thanks to Juanita, Deb, Nett, and Novelera for all you and the other recappers do and your dedication to all your Caraymates.
Nett, what an outstanding job you did for your first recap. I admire each and everyone of you for putting so much of your heart into recapping and posting.
O/T
I'm so use to watching teleovelas, reading Caray recaps and postings, and not watching American TV.
Last week, for the first time in ages, I was watching my first American (North) program -- 'Designated Survivor' (great) and kept trying to go back to Caray to read the recaps and comments. Of course, there were none!
Victoria: Rodrigo has no idea that Jennifer is an EVIL, immigrant-bashing, manipulative psychopath.
Deb: Ernesto becoming Mexican Consulate General wasn't surprising. I guess this is part of boosting his foreign policy shtick in preparation for his campaign for the Presidency.
Novelera: Paula becomes a Cougar ? The way she was looking at Julian seems something is going on between these 2.
Thanks, Deb. Richard did indicate, very subtly, that he has feelings for Sofía. This is pretty normal. Every beautiful telenovela protagonist has more than one guy interested in her.
Novelera: Since Ernesto is going to be the new Mexican Consul General in Los Angeles, CA (plus his cohorts of Assasins), it's going to get super BLOODTHIRSTY.
I believe Richard is working for Slimy United States Senator Irving Cummings (R-TX).
Rodrigo is the new Scotty: "Ricardo Doesn't Know!" just wait until Jennifer ups the ante against him.
thanks Juanita!
a couple little details I don't think have been mentioned,
one of Ernesto's reasons for going to LA is to find his daughter, after 10 years Paula let it slip in an earlier show, that she has known where Alo is and has had her monitored.
a while ago Ernesto referred to the governor about something, and last night I think the TV referred to him as the previous governor.
an interesting aside is that Paula has more brains and competence then any of the men she works for but I guess since this show is more political than narco, she has to play second fiddle to the guys.
thanks Nett for recap'
..and the teenagers were pitiful when they commiserate about their both belonging to the BROKEN HEARTED DAUGHTERS CLUB...!!
SAD!!!
JUANITA:
CHILL AND GET well.take care!!! your hands [ and all those little fingers ] are made of gold....!!!
Novela..
thanks for holding it down with the clarification..Ernesto is heading to LA.!! OMG
STEVE: SANTA MUERTO IS WALKING AROUND...!!
Isn't Ernie the old Governor of Puebla and now he is running for President?
I'm so sorry to know some of you think Richard is working for Cummings. If so, he has gotten away with his spying for over 10 years.
Eliza now has 3 guys after her. Max, Steve, and her male friend that helps with the bakery. I don't remember his name.
Victoria, Eliza's friend, who put her bakery in his name because she's undocumented, is Andrés. Sometimes Tomás calls him Andy. I like when they show the kids growing up in the US using US nicknames. I've seen that before.
Novelera, thanks for the answer about Andrés. I couldn't remember it.
I don't want to begin talking about the nicknames for our kids, both here and in Central/South America!!
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