Saturday, April 14, 2018
Papa a Toda Madre, Capítulo 62; Friday April 13, 2018; “The Mother and Child Reunion is only a Motion Away”
On this strange and mournful day
But the mother and child reunion
Is only a motion away
Labels: papa
Good episode with lots of plot development.
I thought Anifer was never going to get to see María with the long novela buildup.
Finally, with Jorge’s admission of his feelings for Kika he just may let his stupid plan to claim Lili’s child as his own go. Cynthia, that really aggravated me, too, since he is only the grandfather. It seemed like something that might have had happened back in the 1940’s.
Now, this second opinion on Neto is what Toño should have finessed with Verónica BEFORE they started talking divorce. He finally acted like an adult.
I was impressed that Renée was troubled about Mauricio and how he handled knowing María was in town looking for Anifer. Her BS meter is on and working just fine.
So how long will María be in town with Anifer? Will she be able to leave as quickly as she wants to?
A. Proof positive that you are improving,
B. Luuuurve your red comments
C. Enjoy people doing the right thing for once
Um..has our new cerebrally improved Mauricio thought to explain to Maria the whole debacle with Fabian, fake DNA, fake grave, fake everything.?
Does Maria not owe somefrigginbody and explanation of how HER daughter wound up stopping HIS wedding?
Does Maria not mayfriggingbe need to thank somefriggingbody for the expert care of HER daughter for a few (maybe more than 52) weeks?
Does Anifer get to vote in this matter?
Does she have to resign as the Director of Toy Design in AniToys?
Are they just going to live in Maria's car? No...Wait, What..........OK.. she doesn't HAVE a car. Next...
Can Anifer bring her plant? It is planted near Dog #A, right?
Kika Kika Kika, as hateful as you can be, I just don't have it in me any more. Your celebrations behind a closed door as you laboriously wrung a smidgen of feelings for you from Jorge were the best.
Yolanda......Hot......Vero....Not
And Yoli's in your face victory lap with the trophy was fun.
Vero was pretty hot in Vino. She should have used some of that money she made there and bought an ass.
WTF with these impulsive young women in this TN? Maria has no reason to bolt out of there with Anifer. Renee especially, and Mau too, have been more than gracious, and exactly where is Maria in such a hurry to go?
Motel 6
Her job?
Another jail?
'Will Work For Food" sign on the corner?
"Please Help, We are Hungry, God Bless" sign holder on the corner?
Visit Baby Daddy? No wait, she doesn't have a gun. Forget it.
As were all your comments in red. Yes, I too like the doctor. And no, seeing divorce all around them does not mean the kids are ho-hum. After all we had the scene the night before where Tania is crying and the little guys come in and they wail too that they don't want their parents to split up.
And although people talk about "civilized" divorces, the truth is there's so much anger and aggression generated by the process, it's absolutely toxic to everyone for a while.[That being said, in the case of abuse, adultery or alcoholism divorce is often the only wise option]
However, I just don't think these two are going to divorce. And I can't see Lili getting an abortion either. C'mon, this is a comedy. No way. But we shall see.
Cynthia, just delighted that you are feeling well enough to recap again. Thank you so much. And may the healing continue and that you soon are feeling better than you have ever felt in your whole life. On top of the world! Blessed and beautiful.
Hey, I'm an early bird for a change. Comment No. 8, that's me.
At school the next day Val and Lili talk and Val assures Lili that she will be supportive because they are sisters and after all this is a little niece or nephew for her. She even offers to help take care of the baby.
Ah, that was so sweet. I hope these two finally bond. Don't know what Lili will decide to do, but she does have a good support network (Pablo, Val, Kika, and soon her inheritance). She just needs to use her head.
ITA totally unbelievable the kids took the divorce news this well. Most kids whose parents are still together are proud of that fact and don't want to lose it. Especially since the parents had been happy just months ago.
Is Maria scared Mau has supplanted her in Anifer's heart? There's room in there for both of them and it's way too soon to take Anifer away.
Kirby: Somebody call Maury Povich.
Yes, the Paul Simon title was excellent and inspired.
I'm likely alone at a table on this but I feel Anifer's reintroduction to her mother whom she thought was dead was very well done. I don't think Ani should have been woken up from a sound sleep, trying to process what happened. Mau and Renee gently paving the way and her joyous reunion with Maria was worth the few hours wait.
Maria seems very direct and while loving her daughter is obvious, I think it's insensitve for her to spirit Ani away. We don't know her backstory so she may have her reasons. But ripping her away from Mau seems just wrong. "Does she have to resign as the Director of Toy Design in AniToys? Are they just going to live in Maria's car?" Good questions Kirby.
Jarifa, I was also happy Tono is being proactive in trying to help his son. Finally. But, is it too late?
Jorge and Kika ae so good together. She makes him think and masterfully manages to bring whatever good is in him out. I never understood why people keep wearing their wedding rings once they split. Good for Kika for calling him on that. It's when Jorge is by himself that he is his utter worst. Like passing Lili's child off as his. "This is NOT his child, it’s his grandchild, mother’s rights come first!]" - right on Cynthia.
Judy, you are so right in that divorce is toxic. I know it's the right thing for some but it's painful for children who often struggle for years, aching for the loss of their parent who leaves. Have I mentioned lately I loathe Dulce? I am sure she is going to turn up to ruin things. But, I think Kika can and will more than hold her own if that occurs.
Niecie, Lili does have a good support network. I am with Judy though, I don't think she will opt for an abortion.
One of the saddest moments was our Flor showing her worried face when hugging Neron. Your screen shot really touched me.
Like Tono and Vero's all to quick disintigration of their marriage, Raf and Rod seem speeding up to that point. Quite a bit is eating at Rod. He better speak up so they can fix things.
Cynthia, thank you for this amazing recap.
Diana
The other great thing about that scene was the behavior of the youngest. He clearly is too young to take any stage direction so he was just zoning out, pulling up his shirt and doing all those nutty little gestures that young children do when they're forced to sit still and don't want to. He was soooo dying to just wander off the set! you could tell.
Okay, back to the laundry and dusting and vacuuming.
I believe Maria wants to take Anifer away from there as soon as possible because she's freaking out. The entire day she's seen how well adjusted Anifer was with Mauricio and his neighbors. She's probably worried she won't be able to move Anifer without a major protest if they stay longer. But I also don't think Maria fully grasped the extent to which Anifer has a made a completely new life with a stranger. She said she's been in prison for a year. So for an entire year Anifer depended completely on Mauricio, believing he's her father. Maria isnt thinking properly on how to approach this situation. Ripping Anifer away from Mauricio as she's planning is going to traumatize her daughter and do a lot of damage (much more than when they brought Maria back to her life).
Jorge's plan to pass off the child as his is dumb. Who cares what people think- his neighbors dont even seem to be judgmental. Or is he trying to hide Lili's pregnancy from the church? He's ridiculous already. I've only seen grandparents have custody of their grandchildren when the parent isn't interested in the responsibility. I can actually see Lili doing that. She would just take off at 18 and the child ends up being Jorge's. I'm surprised Pablo agreed to the abortion.
Poor Valentina still tries to get along with Lili and show her support, but Lili just flat out doesn't have any interest in getting along with her. Not even once has she done a thing for her. I hate whenever Lili and Baldo refer to Sammy and Valentina as los morros. I feel they're degrading them.
Wasn't it Thursday when Tania, Neto and Fidel were trying to come to terms with the impending divorce? Maybe they've all agreed to just go along and pretend everything is dandy. Or perhaps they really have convinced themselves its okay, there are so many families that are worse off anyway?
I figured Yola's team would beat Vero's. Vero didnt really seem like she knew what to do with her team during practice. Her crying as Yola walked around with the trophy was funny. I guess losing the game to her really hit her.
I'm hoping Jorge really does feel something for Kika, and isn't just saying ghings out of fear of lo d ing her. Who the heck wears their wedding ring around after being abandoned?
Maia
TNs have taught me that my suspicions that a woman does not own underwear is not a foolproof reason to trust her.
And Like I thought aloud before, where is she in such a hurry to go? Mau and Renee sure have not made her feel unwelcome, far from it.
In her defense, she didn't appear to know Falcon. Does she even remember who is actually Anifer's Father? I mean she had thought all this time he was named Mauricio, but would she recognize Fabian if she saw him today? Have they seen each other or been in touch since conception?
And who spoons looking like they were on their way back to their desk from the Xerox machine? But that's OK. Kika and Jorge are the most unlikely couple, but who am I to judge? The internet is full of pictures of Daschund / Poodle puppies. ! Datsadoodle or something like that?
Arrogant, spiteful and selfish are not considered complements, right?
But the second thought must be "Hmmm were Mom and Pop stranded on a deserted island in the South pacific?"
In our neck of the wood, we had several "latest news" interruptions. The most annoying one was in the end when María says "I made a decision. Tomorrow ... Latest news!" What tomorrow? What was the decision? Thanks Cynthia to let us know.
I loved the mother - daughter reunion. Very touching and sweet. Kudos to Renée (first credit,) Mauricio and María.
The soccer match was amusing. Yolanda's team had a ringer. He was just crushing Vero's team. In the end, he got a free kick. When he was about to hit the ball, the wall ran away, the goalie joined them. He was hitting in the empty net.
I hope María reconsiders. She is strong willed but can be convinced, as evidenced by her agreeing to Renée's reunion plan. Mau and Renée, quickly come up with the sales pitch. I think the guided tour for María into Ani's life was laying the groundwork for enticing her to stay.
I also hope Lili reconsiders. Pablo should try what Montse did in "LQLVMR." Give it a name. "Wouldn't Paula be a lovely name? Or Yuriria?"
Kirby and Judy, I got a big giggle out of your comments ...ha..you two guys!!!
Well, a grandparent claiming a grandchild as his\her own actually own actually did happen. In fact, the singer Bobby Darin grew up believing that his grandmother was his mother ,but the woman he believed was his sister was his real mother. Perhaps Jorny plans to marry Kiki , and then send both she and Lily on a trip together. Then, they could return with baby and tell people that he and Kik are the parents. This guy !!
I thought that the reunion scene was kind of a letdown. My little Grand girls seem more excited when their mommy returns from work everyday than Ani did to see the beloved mother whom she thought was dead.
Well, I am finally out on my real patio. 80 and sunny.The breeze is moving the Chinese and windsocks, the forsythia is blooming , and I am starting to see some spots of green in the woods. And.....tomorrow down to 50. ..boo.
Kirby, ditto on all your questions and everyone else's comments regarding Maria. She's acting on impulse (which seems to be rampant in this TN) and not thinking things through. Why would she want to go back to a place that she supposedly ran from and sent her daughter away from? From what I remember, she has no family...and her friends were certainly not around when she was framed and put in jail. I'm on the fence about trusting Maria. She has every right to be untrusting and suspicious of everyone...that's probably why she wants to high-tail it out of there. OTOH, she needs to take time and sort things out, try to make sense of what's going on and then make a decision.
For some reason, I don't think Lili will get an abortion either. Maybe if Jorge had suggested it she wouldn't have given it a second thought because it seems that she is spitefully doing everything that Jorge doesn't want her to do.
Kika and Jorge--I'm with you Kirby. WHen I saw them spooning fully clothed, I was like "whaaat??" But I am glad that Jorge finally admitted to her that he has more thatn physical feelings for her. NOw the question is, "How long will it take him to admit it to his kids?"
JudyB et all, ITA about the Barrientos kids...totally unreal how they made that switch from one night to the next day. Writer's blunder there...
Flor-I was hoping for better news for her. She SEEMS to be taking it well, but that look when she hugged Neron says otherwise.
Jarifa, "I was impressed that Renée was troubled about Mauricio and how he handled knowing María was in town looking for Anifer. Her BS meter is on and working just fine." She impressed me too, but I got concerned when she was talking to Rafa, especially when Renee mentioned that she is very disappointed in Mau. She said that a couple should trust each...and where there is no trust, there is no love. She also thinks that she and Mau started on the wrong foot. So I foresee troubled waters for this couple.
I was delighted to see Yolanda back and coaching her team. Nothing to do with the story, just a delight to see her again. (Please, no criticism from anybody who wants to hang on so & so's biceps :)
Kirby, you are absolutely right that Maria should be filled in on the whole story. She doesn't really know a lot of what happened. Someone she doesn't recognize tells her that he is Mauricio Lopez Garza and has her daughter, yet he is not the Mauricio Lopez Garza who fathered her child and she doesn't say WTQ? Right.
Diana, ITA that "Quite a bit is eating at Rod. He better speak up so they can fix things." Hot Rod is OK, Rafa is a bit of a jerk, and not just because of the way he acted with Renee. Shows to go ya, even in same sex marriages it pays to look before you leap.
Lucio, "LQLVMR." Thanks, and SPQR to you. Or did you mean 6.02 × 10^23?
:-)
andy
Was that an abortion clinic? If so, all bets are that Lili will bail at the last minute. Abortion is such a big no-no in telenovelaland.
I have a new CrackpotTheory™ #2: María the “neoliberal” will stay in town and agree to carry the baby for Rafa. How else can Anifer stay in the picture? And María is the right person to do this.
Still hanging in there with original CrackpotTheory™ #1 that Lili’s baby will be open-adopted to R&R.
I like the Neto’s new doctor, too! I noticed Toño and Vero holding hands --- a good sign.
I agree about the kids’ reaction to the divorce talk. Um, yeah, not normal for sure. Maybe those kids got a spoiler peek at the script.
I just loved the Kika and Jorge scene, it was funny and we needed that last night. These two are good together. Kika is just what Jorge needs and I think he knows it.
You are so right about divorce being hard on the kids , but sometimes for the good and safety of everyone, it is the on!y course...and you know what I mean. Enough said. As to still wearing the wedding ring after a split, in OUtlander, many readers cannot understand why the main character continues to wear her first husband's ring after she marries the hero\love of her life. Also, I just found out that my friend's daughter who has been married and divorced twice says she will not marry again...but she wants an engagement ring from her current beau. Times they are achanging ! Maybe the whole concept of marriage has changed.
Regarding Jorge giving orders that he would be the "father" to this baby made me angry. How dare he! In the old days, families used to do this, claim the baby to be of the daughter's parents and raise the child as their own so that the "errant" daughter could live her life, finish high school, college, and marry someone else. I can't see why anyone would do that anymore. I hope Lili does not get the abortion. I think she will regret it if she does as she is still grieving her mother, she doesn't need grieving an unborn baby on top of it.
Judy and Diana, I'm glad you liked my incorporating the Paul Simon song at the beginning. I try to be creative here. :)
I don't trust Maria either. I wonder if she will try to find Fabian next. Also, I think Maria is feeling insecure about Ani doing so well without her.
Hopefully, Mau and Renee can work things out. I know she is not trusting him now, but hopefully they can talk things out and Renee will understand why Mau did what he did.
The soccer game was funny with the other team beating the pants off Vero's team. I remember my son being on some AYSO soccer teams where he had another teammate named Guillermo Gonzalez. This kid played like a pro and made almost all the goals. His teams won every game with Guillermo there. He did grow up to become a professional soccer player and played for LA Galaxy for a while. Now he is coaching youth and community college.
Susanlynn, thanks for the link to that Outlander forum. I plan to start reading and catching up there soon. Sharing with my daughter and my sister too. They have also become huge Outlander fans.
#WaitWhat? Carry Lili's baby, a new baby a pretend baby, a baby from WaloMartino? I'm cornfuzed?
Daisy is much better today since she started wearing that pretty copper.............ah..............nevermind.
She's fine.
But she now insists on sleeping on top of my car and she ate the stuffing in her bed.
That's tricky.
PackCock theory number three
Well, I'm sticking with Doris. Lili and Pablo will agree to let Rodrigo and Rafa raise their little one while they both pursue higher education and hopefully mature a little bit. Although honestly, I actually used the "just one time without protection" will be alright, and the wonderful result was that we had our third baby when I was 40 and my husband 42.[And of course I'd already given away all my baby equipment, furniture etc.] Anyway thanks to that surprise, we now also have a grandbaby in town rather than a gazillion miles away....so whatever Lili and Pablo decide, I still say babies are a blessing.
Does fakeMaury fab know that Maria is out of prison? Do we know why she ended up in a prison in Guatemala? Pablo is from Guatemala. What is up with Guatemala? The liberal is now a neoliberal. What does that mean in Mexico? What's up with Juan Perez?
Maia
Susy, Fabian does know that Maria is out. He sent Falcon to meet her at the airport, but she refused to go with him because she didn't know him. It was then that Falcon gave her a phone...and I'm sure it was for a devious reason...maybe it has a tracking app or something to let Fabian know what she is doing.
1. Has a place to live
2. Gets the utilities on
3. Buys groceries and actually sets up housekeeping
And probably before 1,2,and 3.. 4. .HAS a JOB?
Remember the place she supposedly previously lived is burned to the ground. Of course this could be another of Fabian's Fabrications.
You know, MY actual arm and a smart squirrel who called himself 'Lucky'.
Messy eater though !
Well, goodbye to spring. Overcast and 35 today. Bummer.
Rain is falling endlessly here and has done so since last night. Another gray, dreary day in central Ohio!
Yeah Mr. Lucky was my roommate for a while. He grew up and decided to live with the other squirrels. He stayed friends with me though. :-(
Instead of painting your toenails with every whim of Nature of Beanie color, maybe just some nail stickers?
ITA, Susanlynn, and that's why I commented here that it is so relevant on many levels.
We received the predicted 2" of rain from that front hitting y'all, along with colder temps. Again. Ugh. I'm so sick of this stuff. This is the type weather where we go right into summer heat & humidity with no in-between from winter. ;-p
Judy...yes this tn has definitely explored the grief of losing a motber...Maury, Renee, Neuron's sons, Lily and Baldo, Ani. Then, we have Vero absent from the family home while working long hours and traveling, and Dulce leaving and completely ignoring her kids. Title could have been "Mothers are important."
"Are you humbly grateful or grumbley hateful?" ...made me think of Maria...
Thank you, Mr. Brolin!
Yes, it's raining here too today too- bad luck for all those running in the Boston Marathon.
Yesterday, we had hail. WTH??
The good news was it's school vacation week here so it wasn't bumper to bumper driving in.
Hey Mr. Lucky. I have always liked squirrels and make sure there's enough food for birds, squirrels, bunnies and the occasional deer to eat. Everyone eats in harmony - we could learn a lot from nature.
Diana
Sorry to here about all the gloomy weather. It's a cool morning in the RGV, but the sun is shining brightly and mid 80's expected later. We were graced with some rain on Friday, but nothing to brag or worry about.
((((((((((Sending bright, sunny vibes to all )))))))))
Yes, i discovered those cute little emojis on my tablet..things appear and disappear on my tablets...ah..technology. 😈😊😀😁😂😃😄😅😆😇😈😉😯😐😑😕😠😬😡😢😴😮😣😤😥😦😧😨😩😰
Judy, I hope your basement is OK, sorry you have so much rain!
The emojis are great susanlynn.
RgvChick,happy you have some nice weather. I remember you've had drought and other deplorable conditions, you deserve a change. Sun and '80's sound divine.
I wouldn't mind a little Jorge and Kika tonight. Geez, I never, ever thought I'd utter those words :)
Diana
Now for the life of me, I can't tell what kind of mood our dear Susy is in.......................
SusanLynn, looking for some positive vibes
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