Monday, April 23, 2018

Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 68, 4/23/2018: From Sweet Surrender to Woeful Farewell



The male chauvinist boss (hereinafter known as MCB) hopes Toño doesn’t have a problem being an assistant to a woman and that Veronica doesn’t have a problem having a man for an assistant. (Little does he know how long these two have been practicing for this.) Toño assures him he has no problem; in fact, he would be honored to work for, uh-hmm, Barbara? Veronica corrects him before stating that she doesn’t care if her assistant is male, female or a squid…as long as he does his work well and that he knows her name.
MCB tells Veronica that she will have to share the secretary with another executive, but assures her that Toñito is all hers. Toño frowns and mumbles, “More?” After CB leaves them so that they can get to know each other and break the ice, Toño swears he didn’t know anything and asks if she knew, but Veronica had no idea it was him either. She can’t believe this happened; it’s as if someone wanted to forcefully get them together! Toño thinks it is just destiny that has turned out to be such a joker. Once Veronica calms down, she tells Toño that they will have to pretend not to know each other because the company can’t find out that they are married; they told her thousands of times that they do not accept any type of nepotism in this company. (Nothing like a clandestine CIA/FBI style secret plot to bring a couple together!)  When Toño comments that, after all, they are practically not related, Vero gives him a scornful look before he pointedly adds that they are getting a divorce; and they can practice so that when the divorce goes through, they are prepared. Veronica didn’t like the sound of that. She then hopes that Toño will treat her like a boss…better than how he treated his ex-wife. Toño sarcastically tells her, “Of, course, Boss. I will treat you with all due respect…of course.” When Veronica gets serious and asks if it doesn’t bother him that she is his boss, Toño replies, “Not at all. You don’t know the number of male idiots that I’ve had as bosses. You are incredible! I don’t have a problem…seriously.” He fudges then adds, “Anyway, it’ll only be part time. I have to go take care of MY kids; Ma’am, I hope you understand.” Veronica flippantly walks to her chair and sits down as she asks, “Oh, okay. How many kids to you have?” Toño plays along as he sits and tells her about his beautiful children. She comments that it is a coincidence that she also has two boys and a girl. Toño then tells her that they need to be careful…for the sake of his kids and her kids. After he offers her some coffee and “guesses” how she likes it, Veronica comments that he is very efficient. (It is already working. Twelve words without it degenerating into a fight.)

At Nerón’s house, Flor opens the door for María who has been wondering if Nerón mistreats her. Flor smiles and tells her that María knows how men are; they can be difficult. When she adds that she is already used to it, María is taken aback and wonders if she is serious. Flor then tells her she doesn’t want to be rude, and as she leads María to the door tells her that, if that is all María needed, she has lots of housework to do plus take care of Milady. (No María, Nerón does not spank his wife. Even if he did, you can't borrow him.)
At Mau’s house, Jorge tells Mau that, in the end, Anifer needs a family…and he insists that a family consists of a mother and a father who, if possible make their nest…and if based on a holy matrimony, even better. Mau tells him to slow down; no one is talking about a wedding…in fact, Mau is allergic to rice (…and hoping María will give him more of a ‘cold shoulder’?). When Jorge points out that María is Anifer’s mother and asks how much of a sacrifice it would be to try it out, Mau reminds him that he loves another woman despite all of their problems. (Similar to being in love with a cloud.) Mau wonders if Jorge ever loved someone with whom he argued, but Jorge evades the question and tells Mau that they aren’t talking about him. Mau knows that if he continues with Renée, María will go off to some unknown mountain with Anifer and he is no climber. If they leave, Mau will never see Anifer again. Ani is too important to him; and he just can’t be without her. Jorge then changes the subject and asks Mau if he will allow him to open a bank account for the Cooperative; he wants to make a deposit from the savings he has…so they can start. Mau looks at the amount and smiles as he tells Jorge that he must have fallen from the heavens; he is like a little angel. Mau is so excited that he thanks Jorge and gives him a kiss unaware that María had just walked in. (María, a sharpie, quickly recalculates how to compete with Jorge AND Pipi Longstocking.)

When María wonders about the expression of affection, Jorge quickly shoves Mau away and denies any kind of affection. María laughs and asks if they have some good news to share, (hint hint.....Anifer and I need to know) so Mau tells her that they are on their way to the bank. (No, Mar, the financial bank, not the one at reproductive health services.)
At Logatoys, Fabián is frantically rummaging through some papers on his desk when Falcón enters and asks him what happened to his face. As Fabián continues to look through the papers, he answers that he had a small accident. Falcón then asks if he found any of his father’s designs, so a very frustrated Fabián slams the papers down and yells, “No! And there is nothing at the house!” When Falcón suggests that he look in the old files, Fabián growls that there is nothing in the files. He then remembers that the oldest ones were stored…at Mauricio’s house! As he stands, Fabián declares that it is time that he claimed everything that belongs to him.
At the repair shop, Lili explains to R&R that since she isn’t going to school and there was no one at home, she made a quick getaway to the repair shop. When Pablo asks why they wanted to see them, R&R look very excited as Rodrigo replies that they want to give them some good news. Rafa then adds that he and his monster have discussed it; and they are willing to adopt Ulysses…they blush as they admit that they already named the baby. (Pushy, pushy, pushy!)  Pablo and Lili are elated and thank them; and Rodrigo points out that the process will be complicated for Pablo and Lili as well as for them, but they are hopeful that everything will turn out just fine. Rafa then adds that they need to talk about how they can help her during her pregnancy. Lili agrees and tells them they can meet whenever they want, but Rodrigo bursts everyone’s bubble when he mentions that they also need to talk to Lili’s father since he has a right to know what they will be doing. After Rafa comments that Jorge is going to hit the roof, Pablo points out that Jorge does have a right to know, but that’s all; and Lili adds that she will take the responsibility of telling her father. Rodrigo thinks he and Rafa should be there with her, but Lili tells them not to worry; she will talk to him. They all agree to let Lili talk to Jorge; and R&R tell her to contact them if she needs anything. They then give each other appreciative hugs. 

After R&R leave, Lili wants reassurance that this is the best thing they should do; so Pablo assures her that this is best for both of them, but mostly for the baby who deserves to have a family who will love him and take care of him…especially now that he has reconsidered going across the border.
At Mau’s house, the Anitoy Cooperative members meet. Mau tells them he has some good news; “Jacobo” transferred a good amount of money for the Cooperative. Jorge looks totally annoyed that Mau still can’t say his correct name; and Nerón exclaims, “Well, Jorge. Hooray for JORGE!” Jorge then tells Mau, “It’s the modest collaboration…humble collaboration from JORGE to the Cooperative!” Nerón looks up and prays, “Little Jesus, give me a hand with the sale of the repair shop.” He then addresses JORGE, with Toño’s assistance in emphasizing “JORGE,” and asks him “When you aren’t using the car for Transporcity, can you let me use it to work it for you? We can talk about splitting the money later.” Jorge agrees. (Is this similar to how some people can't spell hemorrohoid, Marcello?)
[Mexican Version: On their way back from school, Anifer tells María that she likes it when María goes for her, María also likes to go for Anifer. As they get to the gazebo, Anifer comments that she would like Mau to also go for her; so María responds that they will have to see about that. (We are waiting for Miss Ani to suggest Mar seduce him right there in the gazebo.)  She then tells Anifer to wait for her there at the gazebo because she forgot she had to do something. María goes to Nerón’s house and is surprised to see Pablo answer the door. She asks for Flor; so Pablo tells her she is busy in the kitchen doing the laundry. When Pablo asks if María has something urgent to tell Flor, María shakes her head, but asks him if everything is okay with Flor. Pablo tells her Flor is fine and asks if María wants to leave Flor a message. María becomes insistent and wants to know what condition Flor is in; she has a very bad feeling and wants to see and talk to Flor. Pablo then hesitates before confiding that Flor doesn’t feel well; her whole body hurts. Flor doesn’t tell him anything, but he thinks it’s something serious. After he tells María that she shouldn’t worry because Flor will pull through this, María has doubts.]
[Mexican Version: At Rafa’s house, a man comes looking for Renée. After Rafa tells him that is her house, but she is not there, the man hands him a red folder.]
Outside, Anifer and Neto are practicing soccer when Anifer sees Renée arriving and runs happily to her. They hug tightly and Renée tells Anifer she missed her very much. As they walk to the house, Anifer comments that she hadn’t seen Renée in a long time and wonders if she brought her something (typical kid response). They continue walking as María comes from Flor’s house and sees them sit together at the gazebo. She plays with Neto while she listens as Anifer asks Renée if she will be going back to Maryland and Renée responds that things went very well and, in a few months, she will have to be living in the US to begin her mastery program. Anifer tells Renée that she is going to tell her daddy to take him to see her school…because even though she is leaving, she and Mau can still be friends, right? Renée is surprised by the term, “friends,” so Anifer explains that since she will be so far away, they can’t be “novios.” Renée isn’t sure how to respond so she tells Anifer that she doesn’t know, then asks Anifer why she is asking her that. She wonders if Anifer wants her and Mau to be just friends. When Anifer shyly replies, “Yes,” Renée asks her why; so Anifer explains that if she and Mau aren’t novios anymore, then Mau can be her mother’s boyfriend. Renée is not enthused by the thought… (Oh Boy! Daggar 1)

Just then, Rafa comes out with the man and sees Renée. He goes over to Renée and tells him that a man is there to give her a notice; so the man walks up and hands her the red folder as Rafa tells her it’s an order..they want to take her house. Renée is shocked!
Inside Mau’s house, the Coop members continue their discussion. Mau tells them that with the money his friend…everyone listens attentively to see if Mau will use he right name, but Mau continues with “my friend” and adds that plus the money they will be saving up, they can launch the “Papa/Mama” in the market with the Anitoy brand. He thinks it would be ideal if it could be on Children’s Day..and together with some of the other toys, make a deal with the distributors along with a good promotion…sales will skyrocket! Jorge wonders if Mau doesn’t think they are jumping the gun; they haven’t even sent the request to produce the “Papa/Mama.” When Mau asks how long it will take, Jorge is confused as to what he is asking; so Mau asks”How long will it take you to address me as “tu” (informally). Mau urges him to try it, so Jorge exclaims, “Mauricio!” but Mau wants him to elaborate; so Jorge exclaims (informally), “Mauricio! How are you?” After everyone cheers and claps for Jorge, Mau tells them that they need to find a factory that will produce the toys there in Mexico, not in China or anywhere else; their toys have to be made in Mexico!
Outside, Renée tells Anifer to go play for a while. After she leaves, Renée asks the man who sent him and who wants to take her house. When the man responds that it is the son of the legitimate owner of the home…the inheritor of the house she broke into, Renée denies breaking into her own home, but the man tells her that Fabián is well within his rights to claim the house; and that he is only fulfilling his duty to inform her. After the man leaves, Renée complains to Rafa that Fabián has no right to anything as María approaches. When María asks if everything is okay, Renée responds that everything is fine and asks for Mauricio. María tells her he is in the house having a Coop meeting, but she can go ahead and go in; María is also going over there. Renée thanks her, but prefers to wait until Mau is finished; so she asks Rafa if she can stay with him for a while. Rafa agrees…since it is her house (…for a while…thanks Mom, you're far more complicated dead than alive).
Inside at the Coop meeting, Mau asks what references they have for the factories, so Nerón replies that he got them from good sources, people he can trust. The first ones are factories that are the best…they make the best pirate imitations in the market. All the others are dismayed at the term “pirate,” so Mau tells them that maybe they should look at the second set of factories. As Jorge agrees, María walks in and asks how things are going. After everyone greets her, she walks behind Nerón and greets the “most macho” of the cul-de-sac. Nerón takes it as a compliment and everyone laughs as Mau tells her that they are discussing the factories to produce the toys there in Mexico. When Nerón adds that it would help their countrymen and countrywomen who need it most, María sarcastically comments that he must care so-o-o much about the Mexican women since he goes out of his way for them. Nerón doesn’t take note of the spite in her voice and agrees that he would, especially for his Florezota. When she mumbles that he is shameless, Nerón wonders if she has something against him. When Mau asks María what’s going on, María tells them to ask Nerón…who knows very well what she is talking about…but Nerón looks clueless…

At Rafa’s house, Renée feels like she has a lump in her throat. Rafa understands how she must feel with everything that is happening to her right now…with Mauricio and her house. Renée never thought this could happen to her; she is at the brink of being left on the street. Rafa assures her that can be avoided; she needs to review everything thoroughly because the fact that she has lived in that house all her life must account for something.  (Yeah, maybe a lifetime of back rent?) Renée then adds that there is also the situation with María; she never saw that coming. When Rafa responds that Renée only has a child’s point of view…and beyond that, she doesn’t know anything else, Renée thinks that Anifer would never make up something like that . (Oh Boy) Rafa thinks that it’s not a matter of Anifer making up things or that it is intentional; what he means is that she is a child and is hoping to see her mother and father together. Renée counters that the more she thinks about it, the more it makes sense…María is Anifer’s mother; and María would probably think it would be great if Mauricio loved her daughter as if Anifer were his. When Rafa is surprised to hear that Anifer is not Mauricio’s daughter, Renée realizes she spoke too much and asks him to not say anything…though it probably doesn’t matter that the truth is out. After Renée explains that Mauricio is not Anifer’s biological father, Rafa comments that he can surely see how much he loves her…that is what surprises him…that Mauricio loves her so much.
At Mau’s house, Anifer is on her bed playing and having a conversation with her dolls, “They’re just little lies, Papa. Don’t be angry with me, please.” ‘Papa’ responds in a deep voice, “Lies are not little or big, child. They are lies and that’s it!” Barbie/Ani asks the woman dolls, “Are you two upset with me too?” Mama doll says, “I can’t be content; I don’t like lies either, daughter.” Blonde doll/Renée responds, “I don’t either, Ani. You know lying is not good, right?” Barbie/Ani says, “Yes, I feel bad because I love the three of you very much.” After the Barbie kisses the three other dolls, she says, “but I want to live with my mama and papa,” then starts to draw.
Meanwhile, in the other room, Nerón doesn’t understand María’s jabs and asks if she is sure they are toward him. When Mau gets up and asks if there is something going on that they don’t know about, María remarks, “I don’t know if you all are aware, but what is outrageous (indignante) is that this man is physically abusive to his woman…he beats her!” The men gasp as Nerón quickly stands and asks, “What are you talking about?” The other men think that it just can’t be and Toño remarks, “It’s gotta be the opposite because if Nerón lays a hand on her, Florezita will tear his head off!” When Mau adds that he doesn’t know where she got that idea and that it can’t be true, María says, “Well, I hate to spoil your meeting, but what I am telling you is the truth! I saw Flor Ivonne; she has bruises on her arms and she doesn’t want to talk about the issue.” As Nerón looks desolate, María continues, “She looks completely worn and if you don’t believe me, go look at her!” As Anifer comes slowly out of her room, she listens as Jorge comments that he hasn’t seen Flor, Mau asks if this is true, and Toño asks Nerón to defend himself; so Nerón reluctantly confides that Flor is ill...very ill. (The finesse of a hand grenade, María.)

At Rafa’s house, Rafa comments that he respects Mauricio and that it just goes to show that blood doesn’t make a family. (Yessss.... how ducky Raf) Renée agrees and adds that it is what is in your heart; that is what makes a family. After Rafa asks what she is going to do about her house, Renée responds that before anything else, she needs to go question Fabián because he told her he had no interest in her house; she doesn’t understand why he is now trying to cause problems for her. Rafa thinks she should take it a step at a time; the first and most important thing she should do is go see Mauricio and clear things up. Renée nods unenthusiastically.
At Logatoys, Fabián is on the phone with someone and tells him that he will be patient, but he wants the problem resolved; he doesn’t want Renée to come and make a claim on anything that should belong to him…and this should be done discretely. Fabián hangs up when Falcón arrives because they have much to do. When he sees that Fabián looks perturbed, he asks if something happened; so Fabián tells him it’s family matters. When he tells Falcón that he wants to take back the house at the cul-de-sac, Falcón has no idea why he would want that shack. When he wonders if it’s to bother Mauricio, Fabián remarks that the house is his; Mauricio will lose out. (Ahem....was there a mixup on the way to Hell about who lives in which house, Fab?)  When Falcón informs Fabián that Kika is in Mexico, Falcón suggests that she could invest in Logatoys, but Fabián thinks she could do something else.
At Nerón’s house, Flor is reposing on the couch when Nerón runs in, kneels in front of her and asks her to please, please, pleeease, forgive him! Flor is clueless until Mauricio, followed by the Snoop Troop, marches in and tells her that Nerón told them about her illness. Everyone starts talking to her at once until Anifer shouts, “ENOUGH!” When Anifer tells Flor that if she needs anything from them, all she needs to do is yell and they will come running, Flor nods and wonders why. Nerón explains that he had no recourse but to tell them about the leukemia, so Flor asks everyone to turn away for a bit. Once they do, she hits Nerón a few times before telling everyone they can turn back.

Mauricio reiterates that they are there for whatever she needs; all she needs to do is say “frog” and they will jump. After Flor nods appreciatively, Anifer says “frog” a few times and everyone jumps. Flor graces them with her beautiful smile.
At Mau’s house, Renée is in Anifer’s room looking around. She picks up an old drawing and smiles, but then she sees the new drawing on Anifer’s bed and picks it up. When she sees that it is a drawing of Anifer, her mother, and her father, Renée is disheartened and throws the drawing back on the bed. (Oh Boy, Dagger 2)

In her suite, Kika talks to Valentina on the phone and asks how things are going. After Valentina tells her Jorge is about the same and Lili is terrible, Kika comments that she doesn’t want the same thing to happen to Valentina so she wants to speak to her about sexual relationships. Valentina confides that she isn’t involved with anyone; though some of her friends are. After Kika asks if Valentina ever gets curious, she adds that when girls’ hormones start kicking in and they start meeting boys, they start getting that feeling that you just can’t explain. Kika then realizes she went a little too far and tells Valentina she was just asking; so Valentina first tells her she hasn’t felt that thing that Kika is talking about…but then she thinks about it and confides that, honestly, yes, she has felt that way. Kika points out that she considers herself a great woman and mega-liberal, but Valentina is too young to be thinking about starting a life of sex. After Valentina agrees, Kika tells her that before she does ‘it,’ she needs to be well-informed about contraceptive methods because what happened to Lili could have been prevented…by being informed. Valentina understands and thanks her for everything Kika has told her; she swears that she will think about it. After Valentina hangs up, she gets a computer message from Dani which peaks her curiousity.
At Nerón’s house, María admits that she jumped to conclusions and apologizes to Nerón. Flor tells her not to worry about it and thanks everyone for coming and trying to cheer her up. She then adds that she doesn’t want them to feel sorry for her or treat her as such. She also reminds them of the saying “bad weeds never die” and tells them she is the worst of all. After everyone laughs, Toño doesn’t want to be a busybody, but still asks how they will cover all the medical costs. Nerón explains that is why he needs to sell the repair shop…to cover the costs of the treatments and to put a portion into the Cooperative. Flor remarks that she doesn’t want him to sell it. When Nerón insists, she tells everyone that she didn’t get together with a man, she got together with a mule! Mauricio then announces that aside from the Cooperative, they will now unite as a team to help Nerón and Flor. Jorge asks how they can help, so Pablo suggests that they can all help take care of Flor until Nerón sells his repair shop. Mau asks Nerón to hold off on selling the repair shop for a while because a portion of the money ‘Jeremías’ put into the Cooperative could be used to support the Machucas. Jorge clears his throat before he agrees and adds that this is a time when they should provide support for each other…and it is also a good time to learn each other’s names…for example, his name is ‘Jorge’ not ‘Jeremías.’ Toño then adds that he might be able to get discounts for medications at his new job; all he needs to do is find out and ask his new boss. After María comments that this is the true meaning of solidarity, Flor smiles and says, “Frog!” Everyone jumps off of their chairs causing some furnishings to fall. (Unbeknownst to María and everyone that Flor just called her a FROG!)
Outside, Veronica arrives and sees Renée; so she gives her a big hug. Renée has much to tell her and asks if she has time; so Veronica tells her she is out from work for the day. Veronica also has many things to tell Renée and asks if she has time now. Renée replies that she was looking for Mau, but hasn’t been able to find him. Veronica suggests that he is probably at her house talking away with Toño while she is there worrying. Renée sighs and they give each other a long, consoling hug…(Don't take her off your radar yet María, it's a Sisterly hug)

At Kika’s suite, Kika opens the door to find Fabián standing there. When she asks what he’s doing there, he sighs deeply, looks well below her neck, and wonders if she is going to continue with her snide remarks. He also wonders where the nice, well-educated woman who would invite him into her suite and offer him a mimosa is now. Kika smirks and tells him she is in no mood for his sarcasm; and if that is all he is there for, he can leave. Fabián tells her to calm down; he is there to talk business. He knows she is in Mexico because of business; so being the business woman she is, he thinks she’ll be interested. Kika responds that she would be interested if it weren’t him; she doesn’t want any dealings with him. When she comments that she is very scrupulous with where she invests her money, Fabián doesn’t doubt it; and that is why he wants her to invest in the new Logatoys productions. He has plans to launch very innovative toys to the market. Kika laughs and wonders what Fabián could possibly do if Mau was in charge before and couldn’t fix things. Fabián retorts that he can do much more than she could imagine. There is nothing that has to do with her ex’s style; instead, Logatoys is moving along and has a very promising future…and THAT should interest her. (Yes, interested like in finding the FLUSH lever in the dark)
At Veronica’s house, Tania tells Veronica that her father is at Mau’s house and left her to take care of her brothers. Neto comments that he doesn’t like Tanya taking careof him because she scolds him more than Veronica. After Veronica quiets the kids down, she tells Renée that one never knows what Toño could be doing and that her (Renée’s) love is probably around there somewhere. Veronica notes Renée’s dejected look and asks what is wrong; so Renée motions that they should move elsewhere to talk. Once alone, Renée confides that she her relationship with Mau is not going well.
At Kika’s suite, Kika tells Fabián that this precious woman has her own things to do; and she has enough with her own businesses. When she adds that her life is going in a different direction and that he is not in those directions, Fabián stands and tells her that he hopes she is not planning to invest in the Cooperative that Mau is forming with his ex-employees, but Kika is surprised to hear about the Cooperative. When Fabián tells her that the mediocre Coopeative has no future, Kika wonders how Fabián can think that since Mau, Georgy Boy and even the maid have so much experience. After Fabián tells her that if it’s up to him, things will go poorly for the Cooperative, he suggests that she think about it.
At the gazebo, Mau asks Anifer why she is so sad…and if she is sad because she misses Renée. When Anifer tells him that Renée already returned, Mau wonders why they didn’t tell him; so María apologizes and tells him that with everything that happened with Nerón, she forgot to tell him. (Uh huh) Mau wonders why Renée didn’t look for him; and, as he remembers that he doesn’t have his phone with him, Renée walks to him and tells him she is there.They look at each other, but don’t hug. #awkward
[Mexican Version: At Jorge’s house, Valentina and Lili are in their bedroom. Valentina wonders if Lili’s pregnancy makes her feel so bad that she just wants to be laying down all the time. Lili snaps that if Valentina doesn’t know what she is feeling, then she shouldn’t be giving her opinion. When Valentina remarks that she hopes she won’t find out till she’s thirty, Lili responds that was what she had thought. Valentina then asks why she and Pablo didn’t take care of themselves; so Lili replies that they were stupid…and they let the hots overtake them. When she tells Valentina that they only did it once without a condom, Valentina is shocked to know that they did it several times. (Val, Google 'rabbit') After Lili nods, Valentina supposes that Lili must have been in love with Pablo; so Lili admits that she was in love. Valentina then wonders if Lili doesn’t feel anything for Pablo any more…because after all, Pablo will always be the baby’s father; and whether Lili wants it or not, Pablo will always be a part of her life. Lili confides that Pablo is very nice, but one can’t be with a person just because of a mistake; that isn’t love and it isn’t right to be together just because of the baby. Valentina agrees. (In love just long enough to do it forty times, right?)]
At Mau’s house, Renée asks Mau about Flor, so Mau tells her Flor is about the same as ever…fun, a go-getter. When he tells Renée that the cul-de-sac is filled with great women and that she is the greatest one, Renée thanks him, but wants to get serious. She continues that though he appreciates her as a person, she feels that, as a couple, he has turned the page on her. Mau can’t believe what he is hearing and tells her she is mistaken. When she asks, “Are you going to deny that things have gotten complicated for us?” Mau replies, “Well it’s always complicated, isn’t it?” Renée tells him not to kid himself and to be honest…it’s obvious that there is something going on between him and María. Mau is still in disbelief and wonders where Renée could get that idea. When Renée responds that she has her little sources, Mau knows she is talking about Anifer and wonders what Anifer told her; so Renée shares that Anifer told her that they were trying to look for a way to be together. When Renée adds that it’s just normal since María is Anifer’s mother, Mau denies telling Anifer anything and thinks that if Anifer is presuming something, it’s probably because of some comment her mother made…not him. Renée doesn’t think it matters who said what and asks if it’s true that there is something going on between them. Mau denies it, but admits that María has made some comments that stirred him somewhat. Renée thinks that is normal since María is pretty and intelligent, but Mau tells her María can be whatever…the one he loves is her (Renée). When Renée asks if he is sure, Mau assures her that he is…though if María leaves, she will take Anifer away forever. Renée can’t ask Mau to choose between her and his daughter; that would not be fair…but she does need to ask, “Do you feel something for María?” Mau responds, “What is ‘something’? Can you be more specific?” (An unequivocal NO works better than a return question, Mau.) Renée gets frustrated and tells him he knows exactly what she is talking about; so Mau admits that María is attractive…and a relationship with her would makes things easier. He tries to continue, but Renée remarks, “There is nothing more to say. I will make things easy for you. Don’t worry about us; what there was between us is over...and that’s it.” Mau is crestfallen and has no words… (Tree...Fruit...Fruit...Tree...Renée)

At Nerón’ s house, Pablo sits with Nerón and Flor as he struggles to find the words to tell them that he and Lili will be giving up the baby for adoption. Nerón and Flor gasp in disbelief and wonder if he is crazy; they can’t do that! Pablo asks them to calm down; they have already discussed it and have decided. Pablo then asks them not to say anything to Jorge because he knows nothing about it yet. When Nerón comments that everyone at the cul-de-sac knows that Lili is expecting a baby, Pablo clarifies that he means that they shouldn’t mention the issue about the adoption. Flor wholeheartedly agrees that Jorge is going to hit the roof; so she tells Nerón to make sure and not say anything…Jorge is a good guy, but when he gets the devil in him…God forbid!
At Mau’s house the downcast conversation continues. Renée asks, “Mauricio, tell me the truth. Anifer is what’s most important to you, right?” After Mau nods and confirms, Renée adds, “Moreover, you find María attractive, intelligent…” but Mau denies meaning it in that way. When Renée points out, “It is a fact that María could interest you as a woman; admit it. It’s okay to change your priorities…” Mau responds, “Ah-hah, so says the expert on the subject…the one who changed her plans to live here and make a family with me and Ani to go study in America.

Renée’s jaw drops in disbelief with what Mau just said, so she responds, “I knew you were a womanizer, irresponsible and so many other things, but I never knew that side of you! I have just liberated myself from a machín (masculinist)!” Mau counters with, “Machín? Me? That’s all I needed! I support you and encourage you!” When Renée retorts, “You just threw it in my face that I want to go off to study!” Mau adds, “Oh, now the feminist is coming out!” They start arguing back and forth until Renée reiterates that Mau is a “machín” and Mau shouts that she is stubborn!
At Jorge’s house, Valentina and Baldo sit together as Jorge tells them about Flor. Baldo comments that his mother had something similar; so Jorge asks them to be especially careful with Flor. Lili then sarcastically comments, “Jorge is always so good with everyone else, but, of course, it’s not an ‘Indio’.” Baldo chides her for defending ‘Indios’ and thinks it’s because she continues to see the lout. When Jorge asks if she is still seeing Pablo, Lili snidely responds, “Yes, and what? What are you going to do to me? Are you going to lock me up forever or what? But let me make one thing clear, I don’t plan to go back with Pablo…if that’s what really worries you…although, whether you like it or not, he is the father of my baby.”
At Mau’s house, Renée wonders why Mau wants to continue with her if she has so many defects. So Mau slowly walks to her and responds, “Why? So I can continue seeing myself in your eyes…to tell you ‘I love you.’” They look deeply into each other’s eyes and kiss passionately…

Outside in the gazebo, Anifer and María walk in circles around the tree. Anifer wonders why they didn’t go into the house with her father and Renée; so María explains that they hadn’t seen each other for several days, and the best thing to do is give them some space and time to talk at ease. When Ani asks if she thinks they are fighting, María responds that is something that they shouldn’t care about…and it’s not right to be asking too many questions. After Anifer comments that maybe her father and Renée will only be friends, María wonders why she thinks that; so Ani replies that if she and her father become ‘novios,’ then her father and Renée can surely be friends.
Inside, the two lovers continue to kiss passionately. Mau pauses and leads Renée to the bedroom. When he assures her that no one is there, they both run into the bedroom, embrace and continue their heated kisses. After Renée softly caresses his face, they gradually walk to the bed and slowly start to undress. Amidst the soft, glowing lights, they surrender to their love as the fire within engulfs them; and they make endless love until they are both spent. 


Once dressed, they sit on the bed as tears flow down Renée’s face and she says, “I love you...and though it sounds odd, before you, I had never fallen in love.” Mau desolately responds, “The same with me. With you, love is so different from what I have ever known…and that makes it more difficult to face what is coming, right?”

As he hugs her, Mau says, “You don’t have to give up your dreams for me.” (sniff, sniff) Renée nods and responds, “And you cannot leave here…for the Cooperative and…you have to make sure that they don’t separate you from Anifer.” Mau agrees and remarks, “You, more than anyone, know how much I love my little girl.” As they hold each other closer, Renée recalls a song her mother sang and she thought was so corny, but now she understands it more that ever… . She recites the song, “We, who love each other so much, should go our separate ways. Don’t ask anymore of me…” Mau adds, “It’s not for lack of love; I love you with all my soul.” Renee continues, “I swear that I adore you and in the name of this love…” and a bereft Mau adds, “and for our own good” as Renée walks out finishing with, “I say good-bye.” (going for another box of tissue…) Nosotros by Luis Miguel
At Veronica’s house, Toño talks to his mother on the phone and asks if she needs him to go help her. He tells her that as soon as his new boss gives him a chance, he will go see them. After Esperanza hangs up on him, Veronica comments that it is of no surprise that Esperanza hung up on him since he asked fourteen times for assurance that his father was well. Toño can’t believe that his father got over his illness so quickly.
Outside, Renée sits with Anifer as she tells her that , with her parent’s permission, they can write to each other and talk to each other on Facetime. As María approaches, she notices Anifer’s sad face and asks if everything is alright; so Renée replies that they are as well as can be when people who love each other say good-bye. After Renée thanks her for asking, María honestly doesn’t know what to say; she feels a little bad because of the way things have evolved (just a little bad, María? Are you struggling to keep from smiling at a little victory?). She knows this is not the moment to talk about it..and even more since her daughter is present. Anifer sadly wonders if everyone is angry with each other, so Renée assures her that they are not. When María asks why Anifer thinks that, Anifer replies, “Because it’s my fault Renée is leaving.” Renée assures Anifer that she is not at fault; this is a decision that she made, not Anifer. Anifer then confesses, “I told my father that if my mother wasn’t his girlfriend, she would take me far away...and my mother didn’t say that; the liar was me.”  Stay Tuned…

By Rgv Chick and Ghost

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WOW, Thanks RGV Chikie and G That ended sad. It was kinda all around sad.
I especially liked " recalculates how to compete with Jorge AND Pipi Longstocking" Sheezzzz Maria has been there, let's see, must be three days, that's how many outfits I count, and she is already sticking her nose where it should not be.
Speaking of:
What's with Maria and these Moo Moo dress things.? Has she put some junk in the trunk and she
is afraid for anyone to see it?

Vero doesn't care if it is a man, woman or Calamari? Too Funny

Easy Boy, Raf, calm down. Surprised, as he's a vet, he doesn't want to go in after it right now.

Renee, maybe you should have spent a teeny little bit more time figuring out who owns
"your' house, making sure it really is you, and a tiny bit less time forking around in Maryland?

WOW. Kika is impressive.

Renee and Mauricio's 'Non-hug' sure had "It's Over" written on it.

BTW what did Pablo's shirt say, in English? Flashback

Boy, Cynthia you nailed it with scheming Anifer.

And Renee's Mom sure died with a platoon of skeletons in HER closet didn't she.? Man, and after they are dead you have to wait so long to get even with them.

Manana Amigos
 

Kirby, you’re quite welcome...and totally agree..BOOHOOHOOHOOS. I’m struggling to identify a favorite scene. I suppose Kika brought in breath of fresh air. It’s amazing how she has changed from a scheming, scornful witch to a mama-wannabe.

I can see now where Anifer gets her aggressiveness and strong will...straight from her mama.

I didn’t like how Renee and Mau just gave up so quickly. I am a firm believer of “where there’s a will, there’s a way.” Well, these two just don’t have very much will, do they?

To quote Kirby...Mañana Amigos...and Amigas :-)
 

Chickie, thank you for the excellent recap of....all that 😕. ..and for the screencaps. Sigh. I thought this was billed as a comedy. ??????

The goodbye love scene was....odd. Renee evidently spun Maury completely around at the end of it. Powerful?? Strange?? Sexy..no.

Pushy Maria is getting on my last nerve. Anifer is a squeaky manipulator.Basta

Kirby..yes, Pablo's shirt said "fLasHBAck." Wrong episode though...there wasn't any.
Maury should have worn it when he had all his flashbacks. Too literal ?

Okay..I am off into the day. Later, gators.

 

Hmmm...will that last goodbye bunnyhop leave Renee pregnant ?
 

Thanks, RgvChick, your recap was outstanding but the Capítulo not so much.

The best and funniest part: Flor telling everyone to turn around so she could hit Nerón in the head.

I was hoping for someone to walk in on Renée and Mauricio like María.

Kika was great as usual trying to impart her practical wisdom about sex.

So who is Dani messaging Valentina?

Kirby, you hit the nail on the head about Renée and her house. Where is her lawye?! Is she waiting to see Rafael and Rodrigo’s belongings on the curb?

RgvChick, no, Renée and Mauricio don’t have much will especially Renée. Vety weak plot line. You cannot believe Anifer because Anifer is a kid and will do anything to get her parents together. It is just how it is but you do not give in. Renée is not looking too smart here. She looks like she just wants the easy way out and an excuse to run.

Susanlynn, hmmm, another unexpected pregnancy? Why not? I say the writers should go for it.
 

Yikes! Color me confused. We have at last a red-hot passionate scene between Mau and Renee and then it's quitsville!? And dang it, we were kvetching about the stagnant story line, but I'm sure not liking the new developments. Double triple YUCK!

You managed to pepper your recap with lots of funny lines though Rgv Chick. Always appreciate your quirky sense of humor.

"so Nerón reluctantly confides that Flor is ill...very ill. (The finesse of a hand grenade, María.)"

And I certainly liked that zinger!

Thanks also for including the scenes that Univision deleted.

I DO like that Toño and Vero are working together. Will just focus on the positive for now. And look forward to watching this later.

But whew...lots happening!
 

Oh and Kirby, you mentioned last night your surprise at Flor going downhill so fast. That's the effect of chemo. It makes people very tired, often throws women into premature menopause (TMI?), they become more vulnerable to infection, lose their hair, even their eyelashes, in short...it's every bit as horrible as the disease. And in many cases I have known, people eventually die from the side effects of chemo (damage to the heart) rather than the disease itself. It's a curious and to me baffling way of dealing with the disease.
 

Judy, thanks.
Good Morning to my patio pals who each and every one are far more on the ball than any of these nincompoops in our fav Cruel de Sack.

So Renee gets some bad news via a red folder. Hmmmm time for some bunny hopping, right? Or a nap?
Besides her edumacation of, as it seems, dubious value, that house is her whole life achievement thus far. Like Jarifa said, Lawyer up. Fight. Get off your mopy ass and do something. You can live your life or sit and watch life happen to you. Are RifRaf and HotRod not buying boxes down at U-Haul? Do these Nimrods ever panick?

"Hey Juan, there is a Tsunami headed this way, 20 feet high. Run for your life !"
"Ah, let me finish my taco and Chewlopy. And my nap. It's Noon, ya know."

And Renee if you ever get your Mopebot designed and built, the Chinese will duplicate it and put a million on Ebay. starting bid $20 or 'Buy it Now' with free shipping.

On a brighter note, with Renee out of the way, I hopeo we can see Maria really turn up the heat on Mauricio. Kika has been carrying the whole testosterone load alone, she could use a little help, as Yoli seems to have gone on vaca after her soccer ball incident. We hopeo the girls are OK. ssssssssssss?

Some role playing with no room for coming out of character may be just the thing to get Vero and Tono back together. Not that I really care, but their kids deserve better than what they have now.

Kika's heart is in the right place, it is just buried quite deliciously.
 

Excellent RgvChick. Screen shots were wonderful.

"Nothing like a clandestine CIA/FBI style secret plot to bring a couple together!)" and " Mau is allergic to rice (…and hoping María will give him more of a ‘cold shoulder’?" were among many favorites.

So, is the money Jorge is using Val and Baldo’s inheritance?

“Pablo assures her that this is best for both of them, but mostly for the baby who deserves to have a family who will love him and take care of him”. Ummm. Couldn’t he and Lili do that? Just sayin’. I still think Lili is going to change her mind and R&R are in for a world of hurt.

"When she asks, “Are you going to deny that things have gotten complicated for us?” Mau replies, “Well it’s always complicated, isn’t it?” Yes. It is.

The Renee/Mau love scene was sweet. Sort of. It rather fell flat to me.

To his credit, Mau does love Renee but he is putting his daughter first. And Renee is putting her quest for her degree first. Neither is selfish but their primary goals simply aren't meshing. Having Maria, Anifer's mother there in the flesh, her cold shoulder lovliness and savvy business acumen isn't helping.

Not that the little imp wasn't dead wrong for lying, but it is rather natural she would want her parents together. But, that choice is not hers to make. Love you but back off dear.

I wouldn't say Maria is evil but "pushy" is s good description Susanlynn. The woman knows a good thing when she sees it.

Vero and Rafa are Renee's lifelines. Vero is always there for her.

So where will Renee go until school begins?

Jarifa, I was very concerned about who Val was corresponding with. Catfish???

Judy, your comment on chemo that "it's every bit as horrible as the disease" was spot on. I know you have seen much in your gentle caring of many of your friends. My mother died of lung cancer and her body, ravaged by chemo and radiation is indelibly seared in my brain. I do not want that for Flor...

Kirby, what a shot. I'd like your subject's talons to get a good grip on Fab and carry him far away and drop him on his head. Blech.

Thank you again RgvChick!!

Diana
 

Diana like THIS?
 

Oh yeah Kirby. Exactly like that!!! :)

Diana
 

RVG Chick: You've really outdone yourself in this recap. Well done!

Kirby: Mauricio & Renee had steamy sex non-stop. I'm sensing she'll be PREGGERS before too long.
 

Here is Maria with Renee out of the way maybe?
 

Steve I don't think she actually enjoyed it, so she can't get preggers.
 

Rgv Chick – Thank you for your recap, and the snark!

After María’s latest move of outing Flor (albeit with good intentions, but still…), that woman sticks her nose into everything. Perhaps a mini-anvil will do for her? Or even just a cast iron frying pan? I realize this was a plot-propeller, but…. ugh. Maria is getting on my last nerve. Maria – Anifer = fruit - tree

There was nothing “hawt” about the Renee/Mau love scene last night. No chemistry. None. Zip. Nada.
Even their sheets were not bursting into flames. They can break up, for all I care.

Susanlynn – good call on Renee possibly ending up preggers. Something will have to bring those two back together.

Kirby J – I was thinking “role playing” with Vero/Toño, too! Plot device that can work.
 

Good morning everyone.

If Renee and Fabian are siblings, wouldn’t Renee be more entitled to her house than Fabian, being that she obviously grew up there for a reason? The assumption being that Noel let his lover and child live in his house for free? She really should find a way to figure out if Fabian is her brother. At the very least she’d be entitled to half of the house. Either way, I doubt the value of that house even pays off one year of tuition.

Maria looked guilty when Anifer was confessing to Renee that she lied to Mauricio. Right now I dislike all four of them. Maria and Anifer for being manipulators, Renee for lacking character and Mauricio for thinking way too much in Anifer. What makes him think Fabian isn’t going to claim his paternity rights? It’ll be easier for Fabian to take away Anifer from Maria and they both lose her in one shot. Over the past few weeks since Fabian confessed to being Anifer’s father, I’ve noticed that she looks a lot like him, particularly her facial expressions.

Goodbye sex is dumber than having sex without a condom. A pointless way to end a relationship.

Maia

 

Yeah the Renee--Mau love scene looked more like "Take that off the bucket list" Whew.

Much as Maria gets on my last nerve, I am ready for her to go after Mauricio big time now with Renee out of the way. With Maria and Anifer both working on him, Mauricio is done for.

AND, we have not had a good old fashioned seduction in a long time, if ever. Kika and Jorge were about as close as it has come. Lil and Pablo was reminiscent of going to WalMart to get bred. :-)

Vero and Tono are like an armistice, when it used to happen.

Half the time even with Jorge and Kika it seems like watching GM talking to the UAW.

Come on Maria, you country girls have it in you. Some old fashioned, sexy, 'can you say no to THIS?' seduction.
 

Woof
 

Good Morning! Thanks everyone for keeping the fire on the patio burning. If we would use the fire that Renee and Mau had last night, there wouldn't be much of a patio.

Susy, "The goodbye love scene was....odd." ITA, but then the whole Renne-Mau relationship has been odd. And "Hmmm...will that last goodbye bunnyhop leave Renee pregnant?" Well, based on the last two TNs I've watched (MMTF & Ramooon), the most romantic love scene between the protags resulted in a surprise pregnancy; so why not continue the pattern...

Kirby, "Maria has been there, let's see, must be three days, that's how many outfits I count, and she is already sticking her nose where it should not be." Exactly! And that's why Anifer gets her "inquisitiveness." I still remember her annoying questions on her first day of school. She's just as nosy and determined as her mother.
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Jarifa, "She looks like she just wants the easy way out and an excuse to run." We're on the same page! Mau isn't too far behind, either.

Diana, "So, is the money Jorge is using Val and Baldo’s inheritance?" I'm pretty sure it is; either that or he borrowed against it.

Maia, "If Renee and Fabian are siblings, wouldn’t Renee be more entitled to her house than Fabian, being that she obviously grew up there for a reason?" Yup, she would be more entitled. We just need her to find out that she is Noel's daughter. As long as that secret is kept, Fabian will take everything that he thinks he is entitled to.

In regards to Fabian claiming Anifer as his daughter, I do remember Mau saying that the agreement to transfer ownership of Logatoys to Fabian included a clause that stated Fabian would give up all parental rights to him...for whatever that's worth.
 

Was Fab's surrender of rights to Anifer part of the written Logatous deal? Or was that part strictly verbal? I'm thinking verbal, especially because this is a telenovela.

I wonder where Maria has the money for all her clothes. Activism does not pay all that well.....
 

Logatoys, autocorrect!
 

"In regards to Fabian claiming Anifer as his daughter, I do remember Mau saying that the agreement to transfer ownership of Logatoys to Fabian included a clause that stated Fabian would give up all parental rights to her...for whatever that's worth."

Oh Hell, if that's the case, just let them trade back now that the secret is out anyway.

That whole clusterfunk of giving LogaToys away was just to keep the secret of her real parent from Anifer. So, how looooong did that last? I'm counting outfits again.
 

I wonder where Maria has the money for all her clothes. Activism does not pay all that well.....
Me Too.
I also am wondering about Mauriicio's car. We have not seen it for a while either. If irt quit, I'd expect to see it by the gazebo on blocks with a wheel or two missing.
 

OK Maria, You're pretty all dolled up but................

This is a Great Blue Heron out on a fishing pier. He was so tame I could walk right up to him. Which means people had been feeding him or he was an accomplished fish thief.
 

I don't like Maria. At all. But I think she handled her suspicions about Neron just right. She genuinely believed he was abusing Flor and that she (Flor) was afraid of him, and abusers can put up a great front to their friends but can be volatile when confronted, so she decided to "out" him immediately and in front of others. There's safety in numbers. If I were being abused, I'd want Maria on my side. Most people are reluctant to get involved. More people should be like Maria in this regard.
 

OMG. What timing - herons are among my favorites. You seem so very close but is that depth perception inaccuracy? Beautiful.

I am sure this sounds very catty and I really don't mean it to. I think Maria's clothes are shabby chic, without the chic. I have not cared for anything she has worn. Peekaboo shoulder tops included.

I agree Anon, if I were in trouble, I would want Maria on my side. She is strong, protective, self assured and pretty. So, Renee aside, why can't I warm up to her?

Diana
 

Doris, I'm thinking that it was written in the agreement. If it was, I am wondering just how closely Fabian;s attorney's looked at it since Fabian was surprised to find out that Mau kept all the rights to his designs. I would have expected that the agreement would pretty much be one-sided, but certainly not in Mau's benefit. So do I need a beanie?? Just remember I like blue :-)

Maria does sport some nice clothes and jewelry since the day she got off the plane. Maybe Fabian gave her some money?? She also told Anifer she needed to find a job because what she got from the Cooperative wouldn't be enough.

Kirby, What a beautiful shot! It looks like such a peaceful day. That heron looks so relaxed...oh, to be a bird...
 

Diana, our comments crossed. Shabby chic without the chic? I tend to agree, but they are nicer than one would expect an ex-convict to be wearing immediately after being released.
 

You're so right RgvChick.

Orange may or may not be the new black in couture, but Maria's clothes beat prison garb anyday! :)

Diana
 

Diana, mostly camera trickyness.
 

OK I will forget about Maria's clothing, but the trendy little brown boots at least, looked expensive. I bet they were not from the peso store.
 

Diana and Chickie...yes, Maria does dress kind of hippy dippy....but tben, so do I sometimes. Fashion alert...wide leg pants are making a comeback.I

Doris and Chickie..the Maury\Renee bed scenes seem very choreographed and very vanilla. No improvising.
 

Too simplistic of thinking with Mauricio and Renée. No creativity but first of all you have to want to solve the problem.
 

Jarifa, "No creativity but first of all you have to want to solve the problem." AGREEEE!!
 

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Renée ending up pregnant would certainly help fill the day-to-day void for Mauricio if María ends up taking Anifer home.
 

Susanlynn, "Fashion alert...wide leg pants are making a comeback."

So, are you saying they left?? OK, always loved and worn em. See, I'm back in style.

Jarifa, I have thought all along that Maria won't survive IF Mau and Renee are to get together. I think would be very difficult for all to live in close proximity as one big happy family. But I'm not convinced of anything right now. Unless of course someone new emerges sweeping Maria off her feet.

But, I also feel Lili will end up keeping her baby. Could be wrong on both counts.

Diana


 

Jarifa...it seems that the way Maria has been flirting with Maury , she wants to take him home, too.However, needs a job.

How do you think Renee will find out that she is Noel's daughter? Will be somehow blurt out the news? Does he know?
 

Diana, i am not a fan of the wide leg look.

Kirby...maybe not quite that skinny legged ...a bit more room .

Sunny here again ..yay , 🌞sun.
 

Oh, my picture was of the expensive boots.
I thought Renee already knew or almost knew, IE: strongly suspected, after the breaking and entering and Noel said that about her Mom.
 

:-)
 

Susy, Noel does know that Renee is his daughter. My thinking is that he doesn’t know what Fabian is up to. Maybe.... Renee will go to Noel to make an argument to keep the house and Noel will freak out when he finds out Fabian is trying to take the house from her. So maybe Noel will.tell her???? Just my guess...

IF Renee is pregnant and Maria and Anifer end up leaving because Mau will be contentvwith his own biological child, then that really would be horrible for Anifer. Poor kid...everyone is bouncing her back and forth like a yo-yo. Being Fabian’s child, maybe a sequel could be Anifer’s life as and evil, conniving teenager....PATM: Intenciones Crueles
 

Chickie, I think that some way, somehow, Maury will always be a part of An i's life because they have formed a very strong bond in a very short time.
 

Susy, you’re probably right. Still, Anifer is going to be the most hurt and affected.

Oh and there is still the idea that Anifer has that Maria and Mauricio were once novios...she has mentioned it to both Maria and Mau and no one has ever clarified the (non)relationship to her. Being that Anifer is made out to be such a mature child, surely she would understand and maybe not be so hopeful that her parents will get back together.
 

The problem with all of this is that too many life changing events have happened to the characters in too short of a time. Too bad we cannot just see what this looks like three years later when the dust has settled.
 

Maia: When did Anifer become a master manipulator ? She's just a young kid.
 

Chickie, yes, the whole one night stand is a tricky thing .

The writers have let some varying amounts of rain fall on all of these parades. As in real life, nobody escapes without some battle wounds.
 

My mother used to say, " If everyone put their problems on a table, you would take your own back . " So....each character is dealing with some kind of problem. If you HAD TO change places with one of them , whose problems could you solve or at least deal with the best ?
 

Thank you Rgv Chickie and Ghost. I didn't get a chance to watch this last night, hopefully the DVR got it. But your secret is out now: "Amidst the soft, glowing lights, they surrender to their love as the fire within engulfs them; and they make endless love until they are both spent."

One of you, or both, write Romance novels, right? (I originally wrote "tawdry" Romance novels, but I was afraid Maria would out me as a male chauvinist, though it's totally untrue. Really.)
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Jarifa, be careful what you wish for. "Too bad we cannot just see what this looks like three years later when the dust has settled."

If I sometime soon see, "tres años después..." I will know exactly who to blame.
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andy
 

"insensitive male chauvinist
 


whatever

 

I don't need no stinkin' autocorrect, I can make my own mistakes without help, thank you very much.

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andy
 

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And how did they come up with AutoCORRECT for the name of that application straight from Hell?
 

I have not seen anything to make me think otherwise, all around with Renee, but let's just say she is pretty sharp.

Let's Pretend. And Noel tells her that her Mom was the only woman who truly luuuurved him FOR---EV---EEERRR.
And she discovers that the home she and her Luuuuurvin' Mom shared all her life actually belongs to the same man her Momma Luuurved always....

Would she ever have any itty sneakin suspicion that there might be something as yet undiscovered?

like:
HE'S YO PAPA?

Like knocked yomama up and let her and her bastardette live in his house?
Notice that you and Fabian both have some of the same little quirks. Like sleep with somebody before you board a rocketship to Mars?

Hello................
 

"Too bad we cannot just see what this looks like three years later when the dust has settled."
The writers can always despues us.


Susanlynn - a wise and wonderful elderly friend taught me to say, "Thank you, God, I will keep my problems." Same idea. So true.
 

Thanks, Rgv Chick. Just catching up with your recap but want to pipe in before showtime. This cracked me up: (No María, Nerón does not spank his wife. Even if he did, you can't borrow him.)

Unbelievable, three adults letting a kid run their lives. Will somebody please put Anifer in her place?
 

Niecie, "Unbelievable, three adults letting a kid run their lives" You'll see that it's not just three adults...she yells at everyone to pretty much 'shut up' and then tells Flor they will all be there to help her with whatever she needs...ughhh, shouldn't that have been an adult to lead that discussion???? Looks like NO ONE wants to put that pretty little liar in her place.

Andy, "One of you, or both, write Romance novels, right?" NOPIS! I'm just a romantic...deep, deep, deeeep down :-)
 

OK, I got a chance to watch this episode with a little help from my friend, the FFWD button.

Not too bad. Having seen the chemistry between Mau & Renée before, I didn't know if Chickie was adding a little spice to a bland dish or spinning something out of nothing at all with the "Amidst the soft, glowing lights, they surrender to their love as the fire within..."

OK, it was tastefully done, there was some fire there, and I didn't burst out laughing though I don't think you could dance to it, so I give it a "6".
It would have been better if it didn't have that "Let's get this over with so we can say goodbye" feel to it.

Vero and Toño are fun together again, and at this point we need a little fun in this TN.

andy
 

Romance novels, right?
I'm just a romantic...deep, deep, deeeep down :-)

Yeppers, tomorrow I'm putting on my Halloween outfit and sneaking down to Walgreens to thumb through all the paperbacks looking for something by RGV, or Chickie or VGR or RGVC

"you can't borrow him" It is hard to adjust to life on the 'outside'. :-)

 

Kirby: Looking forward to tonight's upcoming episode.
 

Steve. Yeah with this show you never have a clue what to expect.
 

ITA that "No María, Nerón does not spank his wife. Even if he did, you can't borrow him." was one of the best lines in an extremely well-written and funny recap.
 

VGR??? Is that for Valley Girl or Viagra??? LOL
 

Just RGV backwards, but if you'd like, we might be able to get a Goat in there some way
 

Virgin Goat Restler.

Virgin Goat----Wrestler
NOTTTT Virgin----Goat Restler I mean, the darn 'W' is silent, why not just lose it?
 

Aww, ok. I’ll get my shovel to dig my mind out of the gutter. ;-)
 

Virgin?? Me?? Not even in goat restling LOL
 

Oh pffft ...you meant the goat is a virgin...digging deeper into that gutter ;-)
 

Oooh, Andy, so do ya still think Renee is a virgin?? She’s as much virgin as I am.

And Susy and Diana, I’m just kidding!! If you remember, I am single...so, yes, uh-huh, I’m a virgin...just let me figure out which part of me still is...LOL J/K!!!
 

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