Wednesday, April 04, 2018

Papá a toda madre Wednesday 4/4/18 Capítulo 55: Merry(?) Xmas To All--OR--Toño Can't Handle the Truth--OR--Nobody Knows Her Son Like the Mother Who Raised Him

Xmas Eve continues . . .

Nerón is entertaining Roberto this Xmas Eve. Roberto has come with gifts for everybody. Nerón leaves Flor and Robert alone to go get his gifts. They chit chat about about Nerón telling Robert to get a wife and maybe one with a child. Robert quietly expresses concern for Nerón’s health and asks Flor about it since Nerón seems to be talking about it a lot in the last couple of days. Flor looks concerned.

At Toño's parents, Christmas Eve is not too merry. Verónica reminds Toño that the only reason she is there is because of the kids and that the two of them are still separated. He gets sarcastic about what a sacrifice it must be for her to have to deal with all of his relatives. She makes it clear that is not the problem. Her problem is putting on a happy face so she does not ruin the children’s Xmas especially Neto's. They get into an argument about Neto and his medicine for his supposed ADD. Toño cannot understand how a doctor can see him only once and put him on medicine. Verónica explains that the doctor is an expert. It seems to her that Toño doesn’t take anything seriously. Toño argues it is not that. It is only that he has been on the internet . . . She scoffs at that. According to what he has read, the experts say that taking medication is the last option that should be considered. Before going with medication, you have to take a look at what is happening in the child's home, his environment.
Verónica takes that as a low blow. Continuing the low blows, Toño wants to know why is she so worried "now" about Neto? She explains that it is about her son’s health and so his ADD doesn’t turn into something more serious. Toño does not believe that anyone really knows if Neto has ADD or not. He does not want to see his son being labeled ahead of time. She insists she is not labeling anybody. They are interrupted by Toño’s mother Esperanza who tells them that she has had enough. It is supper time and the turkey is going to get cold. She insists they come to the table to eat right now. No excuses.


R and R are at home this Xmas Eve. Rodrigo says that his family sends Rafael their regards. Rafael sends them his, too, and states that Rodrigo could be with his family. No way! Rodrigo is happy to be with Rafael as they celebrate their first Xmas together. Rafael surmises that this will be their last Xmas Eve alone because by next year at this time, they should have their child with a pile of toys under the tree and diapers all over the house. Rodrigo warns him to not get so far ahead of himself. He does not want to see him become disappointed because in vitro fertilization sometimes doesn’t work out so easily. Rafael tells him not be such a pessimist. Rodrigo sees himself as a realist and he is being one for Rafael’s sake. He does not want to see him disappointed. Rafael thanks him but thinks if they really concentrate on the situation it and put all of their energy into it, it is bound to happen. Rafael asks him if he wants a girl or a boy.

Anifer is telling Mauricio and Renée how Xmas Eve was celebrated with her mother. They would start with the posadas and then then everybody would be invited over for the piñata and really delicious food for supper. Renée always spent it with her mother, too. Eventhough they didn’t have any relatives to share it with, it was a party just being together. Anifer asks her father how he celebrated. When his mother was alive, they had incredibly huge parties with champagne, caviar, romeritos (dish from Southern Mexico), really everything. After his mother died, all of that ended. Renée acknowledges that he misses his mother a lot. He agrees but from now on they are with him. Mauricio tells Renée to tell them now she would spend her Xmas. Renée continues. After eating supper, they would open the gifts. Anifer, too, opened her gifts on Xmas Eve but Santa Claus did not come to her town. The baby Jesus did.

At Jorge’s house, the family has gathered around the tree to see what Santa Claus brought them. The first one to open up a gift is Lili. She and Jorge hug as they all chant for her to open her gift. He has given her a book ”Family Advice” that is very educational, entertaining and important. She thanks Jorge and "acts" as if she is happy with her gift. That first gift sort of takes the wind out of the kids' sails. The next gift is for Baldo. It is a traditional style watch. They all play along again to make Jorge feel good about the gift..

Back at Mauricio’s, Renée tells them that the gift itself does not matter only that it was given with lots of love. It is midnight so Anifer wants to open her gifts. Mauricio wants her to wait until tomorrow like when he was a kid. He gives into the pleading of Anifer and Renée by saying she can open one gift tonight. It can be anyone that she wants. She picks the biggest gift. It is a huge doll house.

Jorge has a gift next for Samuel. It is a blue sweater. Samuel does his best to act like he likes it. The last gift is for Jorge's princess Valentina. It is a ruffly white blouse. He thought of her when he saw it.

At Nerón’s, he and his new found best friend Roberto are having a great time as Flor just sits and watches.

Toño and Verónica have put their problems aside for a time to play with the kids in their room at Toño’s parents’ house while his mother watches with a smile.

At Nerón’s, he, Roberto, Flor, Milady and Pablo are all around the tree as Nerón hands out the gifts. The first gift is for Flor from Nerón and it is a sweater. She does not look very excited.

At Mauricio’s, Anifer gives Renée a picture she drew of herself, Renée and Mauricio all together. Mauricio gets the same picture. Everyone is happy.

THREE WEEKS LATER:

Mauricio is at Logatoys when he sees Fabián with Falcón. He confronts Fabián labeling him as a liar saying he does not know how he can dare to be there at an official Logatoys meeting acting as if nothing happened. He talked to him twenty times and left him a hundred messages. Fabián says he has been traveling. Mauricio tells him he never goes on vacation. Mauricio wants to know what really happened in Chiapas. Fabián sarcastically reminds him that Mauricio sent him to find María’s body because he could not "deal" with seeing anybody "burned." As usual, Mauricio could not do what was his responsibility to do. Mauricio just wants to know if the body in the morgue was María or not. Fabián asks what more does he want. Everybody else thinks that María is dead and buried. Mauricio asks one more time where María is and Fabián finally tells him that María is in jail. She is going to be there for a good while, too. Mauricio is surprised and Fabián wonders why. She is a criminal and the least important thing in her life is her daughter.

Renée is at her house she is renting to R and R. She is talking to Rafael and is worried about the surprise visit from a government representative regarding her house to see if she really lives there. It is important that she can prove that she lives there. Rafael asks her if she is so serious because of the house business or if something else if bothering her. She says it has to do with Mauricio. Something is bothering him and he won't say what. Rafael wondered if she was acting strange because of the egg donation. Rafael already has medical tests scheduled for tomorrow. She didn’t think it would be moving that fast. The doorbell rings. Rafael wasn’t expecting anyone. Could it be that it is the government rep a checking if Renée lives there? Rafael goes to answer the door.

Mauricio tells Fabián that he does not believe anything that Fabián could say to him. He asks where María is and what Fabián did to her. Fabián says he did nothing to her. He tried contacting her just before the “nun” showed up pretending to be Anifer's aunt. He tracked the nun down and talked to her but she was very strange and ended up only giving him excuses or evasive answers so he tried to find out more . . . The bottom line, according to Fabián, is although María might present herself as this great defender of the environment, she is nothing more than a phony and for that very reason she is locked up. She was getting the towns people all worked up because she believes in self-defense. She is sort of a terrorist. Mauricio does not believe him one bit. Fabián tells him to look for her himself if he does not believe him. Mauricio still does not understand Fabian's creating a grave for María risking that he could be found in a lie. Fabián says Mauricio put him in charge of getting rid of her body. Fabián tells Mauricio not to be an imbecile and to let sleeping dogs lie and to take care of his daughter. Jorge comes in to let Mauricio know that all of the documentation is ready for the meeting. Fabián leaves to go to the meeting. Jorge asks Mauricio if he is okay. Mauricio is fuming and silence is his answer. Jorge excuses himself for what he is about to say and he asks Mauricio if he is really sure about what he is going to do: sign away his company, because it is an extremely stupid thing to do.

Nerón is back at the doctor who is chewing him out for taking so long to come back to get the results of his medical tests. Nerón has been busy and why would he come back just to hear that his days are numbered. The doctor scoffs at his reasoning and tells him that he has prostatic hyperplasia. Nerón wants to know when he is going to kick the bucket. The doctor explains that he has an enlarged prostrate. He is going to prescribe some medicine for him and he only asks that Nerón not ignore his health. If he follows the doctors directions exactly, he will live many more years. He reminds Nerón that weeds never die.

Toño has arrived at the house early to pick up the kids from school. He is talking on the phone to Verónica who reminds him that they have that meeting with the doctor about beginning Ernesto’s treatment. She asks him to please be on time. He starts complaining about how she needs to pitch in and help with the kids, too. She is called away by a work call. He is aggravated she hung up on him. Surprise!!!! Toño’s mother Esperanza has come straight from the airport. She let herself in with the keys that Verónica gave her. She is going to lend them a hand with taking care of the kids so it is easier if she has her own keys. Toño asks if she is going to be Verónica’s “assistant”. Yes, she is and also his assistant. News to him.

Back at Logatoys, Mauricio is signing the last document that Jorge has given him under Fabián’s And Falcón’s watchful eyes. Mauricio asks Fabián that he swear by the most sacred thing Fabián has: "by his father’s memory" that after this is all finalized, that Fabián will not appear in his life again and he knows what he is referring to. Fabián says okay, he swears to it and takes the seat at Mauricio’s desk. As Mauricio stares, Fabián asks what is wrong? He swore to do what he wanted him to. Fabián repeats in a full sentence that he swears on his father’s memory. Fabián suddenly notices how much “stuff” is on Mauricio’s desk. He gets up and says he will be giving Mauricio a reasonable time to bring in his “little box” and pack it with all of his “little things” so he can say “off you go” to him. He knows it is a little fast but it has to be done. Fabián leaves With Falcón to get back to work. Jorge states that now Fabián is the head of the company which is something he doesn’t understand and will never understand. Jorge says that he should have had Fabián swear to what he wanted on paper. Words are just gone with the wind. Jorge asks Mauricio why he won’t tell him what is going on. Mauricio says that the only thing he can tell him is that all of this has to do with Anifer and also with the exhumation that he asked him to investigate. Jorge says Mauricio can trust him. Mauricio gives in and asks Jorge not to say anything to anybody. This is not between a lawyer and his client but is father to father.

Toño is upset with his mother because she seems to have jumped to help his “ex” or whatever Verónica is going to be but wasn’t so quick to help him out. The first thing his mother tells him is to tone it down because if his tantrums didn’t work when he was five, it is less likely that they are going to work now at his age. He whines on his knees that he needs her help more than Verónica does. His mother does not agree. She tells him that he doesn’t want help. He only wants to be waited on hand and foot.He grew up to be useless. He cannot believe that she is calling her first-born useless. She repeats sounding out every letter that he is “USELESS”. She is about to add to that word when Toño insists that her saintly mouth cannot say those things. She then calls him a freeloader. Toño is taken aback again that his mother is calling him a freeloader. He says he will forgive her because if she helps Verónica, she will be helping him. He thanks her but she says no. Helping him? No. He is going to have to get used to the idea that she is not there to help him so when it is his turn to make dinner, like today, she is not moving a finger. He calls him “useless”, a “good for nothing”, and very lazy and tells him to get going. Toño is still on his knees arguing. He tells her how much it hurts him being called these things. She says it hurts her much more but she is doing it for his own good. One day he will thank her. She is doing it because she loves him . . .

At Nerón's house, Flor is arranging some flowers that Roberto brought her. Nerón comes in all happy and suddenly is not so pleased to see Flor so happy and going on about the flowers that Roberto brought her. He is not happy either to see Roberto there holding and playing with Milady. Flor tells Nerón that she cannot believe how well Milady gets along with Roberto. She is not like that with just anybody. He seems like her own father.

Renée is meeting with the government rep about her house. Rafael is there, too, sitting at the table with them. The government rep wants to know how many years her family has inhabited the house. Right at that moment, Rodrigo walks in like he owns the place calling out to "his love." The government rep looks at her and shakes his head.

Mauricio ends his story by telling Jorge that Anifer is not his daughter and her mother is not dead either. Jorge agrees that the situation is very serious. Mauricio says he knows nothing more about Maria than what Fabián has told him. She is a criminal in jail and is a bad woman. Jorge reminds him she still is Anifer’s mother but she is not the first woman to leave her children behind. Mauricio asks who leaves their daughter with a man she does not know amd disappears without a trace. Maybe something serious happens to her but what if she shows up and wants Anifer back. Jorge says she has the right to do just that being Anifer’s mother. What is Mauricio planning to do? He does not know. The only way he will ever be at peace is if Marís shows up. Jorge asks why not ask Fabián. Mauricio says Fabiān only lies so he has no idea how to even start.

The government rep needs to know which one of the men is Renée’s husband. R y R start arguing. Finally, Renée says that the three of them live together. At first a little surprised, the government rep says to each his own. Renée wants to know how the relationship that they have in her house has any bearing on the judgement. Next, Toño walks in and the government rep asks Renée if he is another one of her partners. Is it now a quartet? Toño wants to know what kind of a quartet. Are they playing poker? Count him in. Who is his partner? Rodrigo escorts him out of the room. Renée asks if there are any more questions or does he have enough information to prove that the house is hers. She could give him all sort of records like payments, etc. The government rep thinks that her information is enough to prove that she is the owner of the property.

Jorge says they first have to start searching the prisons for women because if María is behind bars she has to be in one of those or in a hospital. Jorge has contacts in government agencies that can help them out. Mauricio suggests that they could start with Rodrigo their neighbor who is law enforcement. Jorge says he really does not know Rodrigo that well. Mauricio trusts him. He asked him for help is solving the nonsense with Fabián. Jorge asks if he helped. Mauricio has to admit he didn’t but he was very open to the idea. Mauricio does not know what to do while Jorge gets his contacts involved. Jorge suggests that he starts out by searching all of the hospitals in Chiapas and Mexico City. Jorge would help but he just started a new job today with a new “boss”. Jorge thanks Mauricio for his confidence in him by telling him everything. Mauricio thanks him because maybe they can prevent Maria from appearing out of nowhere and taking Anifer. Jorge understands that it is a very complicated situation. Kika calls in the middle of it all. Jorge does not answer the call saying that this call can can wait.

Kika is all upset that her beautiful “Georgie Boy” is not answering her and she got voice mail. She talks to her sister Charytín instead telling her she will be in Mexico City for several months and to please inform their mother. Kika is going to be busy with business. Her sister is shocked thinking she was just going for several days and does not lose a beat in reminding her how she hopes she is not still after Mauricio because he has already humiliated her twice. Kika informs her that Mauricio is part of the past. She is now into “real” and passionate men. Her sister wants to know his name and why she hasn’t told anyone that she has another guy. Kika says because nobody has said she has another guy. Her sister wants to know all about it. Kika admits it is a little complicated. He’s free, cool, educated, just great. Her sister says that is how she always begins and then Kika ends up dragging herself along the floor crying like an unthroned Miss Universe. A clearly annoyed Kika does not agree. She has never done anything like that. Her dignity comes first before everything. Her sister laughs saying if she pulls this again, she won’t be there to feel sorry for her. Kika ends the call.

At Nerón’s, Roberto is sitting next to and very close to Flor on the couch as she goes on about how great he is and patting him on the knee. Roberto is just as impressed with her calling her “Floresota” (Nerón’s pet name for her) and unabashedly looking at her breasts. Nerón cleary simmering with anger asks if he has been there long. Flor and Roberto just go on and on like the best of friends until Flor finally says that if Nerón weren’t around some day, Roberto would be his perfect replacement. She caresses Roberto’s face. She goes on saying that Roberto and Nerón sort of look like each other, to, with their little moustaches. Roberto says it would be a pleasure for him to take Nerón’s place. As they prattle on, Nerón finally jumps up and enraged he tells them that he has had enough.

Renée asks the government rep about the process since she has never had to deal with anything like this before. He says she has points in her favor and that it has to go before a judge but she shouldn’t count her chickens because there could be somebody with a document out there that nobody knows about that could complicate things. With these cases you never know . . . Renée takes him to the door and he leaves. Jorge, R and R and Renée all breathe a big sigh of relief. They all laugh about the government rep thinking that they were a “cuartet” as Toño tells the ”trio” goodbye. Renée says goodbye to R and R and Rafael reminds her about the tests tomorrow. Rodrigo asks her if Mauricio is okay with her donating an egg. He knows that the decision is hers but she is his girlfriend. She reiterates that it is her decision and Mauricio is clear on that. To be honest, they really haven't had a lot of time to talk about it.She thinks that if Mauricio wants to talk to Rafael it must have something to do with the famous Juan Pérez.

At Nerón’s house he is exploding in anger about how Flor and Jorge were looking at each other, etc. She responds with "so what?" Nerón reminds her that he has not kicked the bucket yet. She lets him know that that is strange because she is aware of his plan to hand her over to “don” Roberto since he has one foot in the grave. Why don’t they just make a clean break now? Nerón all sheepish says that the doctor gave him some medicine to help his medical condition. She reminds him that that is his problem. She and Roberto are growing fond of each other, are on the same track, and are enjoying the romance. So, what does Nerón think about that? She asks if that was his filthy plan without even consulting her or Jorge. Nerón admits to it but begs that she understand him. She tells him that is enough and comes clean. She put Roberto up to acting out this little scene. There is really nothing between them. Roberto also assures Nerón there is nothing between them. Roberto leaves. Nerón like a whiny dog approaches Flor to give her a hug. She tells him not to touch her and not to talk to her. She warns him to leave her alone until the anger passes.

Toño is busy cooking when his mother comes in to see what he is cooking for the kids and is shocked at how he is cooking the rice. It is all stuck together. He doesn’t know why she doesn’t help him. She seemed to love to wait on them all. She never let them lift a spoon while he was growing up. She agrees that is when she started to turn him into a freeloader. He still cannot believe that she could let a word like that leave her saintly mouth. She insists it is the truth. It took her years to realize the mistake she had made doing things for the members of her family. Toño remembers it as being so nice. She repeats "so nice" and adds that it was worth absolutely nothing. She starts to go on and Toño interrupts her because he cannot believe the language she is using. He cannot believe all of this is coming out of a mouth that kissed him as a child. He has had enough. She blames mothers like herself for ending up raising boys into the typical “machos”: very lazy, good for nothings, incapable of lifting a hand, etc. Toño cannot bear to hear his saintly mother say anymore. No, she won’t be helping him no matter how much she loves him. She did that enough. He thanks her for helping him by not helping him. She says maybe he is beginning to realize that someday he will thank her.

Renée is still talking to R y R about Juan Pérez. She asks Rodrigo if he can tell her what he found out. Rodrigo is not too comfortable doing that because Mauricio was the one who asked him to look into the matter. She apologizes and says she will see them tomorrow at the hospital. When she is gone, Rodrigo tells Rafael that he is not too sure about Renée wanting to donate her egg. Rodrigo accuses him of being a real killjoy.

Flor is still letting Nerón have it as he follows her around the house. What really irks her is that he was not upfront about his so called illness. Nerón tries to excuse it all saying that he did it all for her and Milady. What else really irks her is him having no confidence in her being able to carry on alone with Milady if he did kick the bucket. She wants nothing from him. If he keeps following her around, she tells him she will kill him. He had better leave her in peace. She leaves the room.









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For me, the real real highlight in this episode was any interaction between Toño and his mother. At least she admitted that she had a large part in Toño having turned out like the lazy good-for-nothing he grew up to be. I had to laugh how he could not take the harshness coming out her "saintly" mouth.


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Jarifa - Thank you for your recap. Perfect title, too.

Jorge’s kids were incredibly good sports about their Xmas prezzies.

Fabian probably had his fingers crossed behind his back when he swore “on his father’s memory”.

The look on Neron’s face while Flor & Rob were playing out their tableau was the best. LOL Serves him right, the big imbecile. And my esteem for Flor just ramped up. But OMG can that woman talk fast!!!

Ah, Toño's mother. Better late than never, I guess. The enabled one never likes it when the enabler stops playing their part in it all.

 

Jarifa, thanks much for this great recap.

Poor Nerón, his doctor "reminds Nerón that weeds never die." Then Flor spanks him for his silly plan to line up his replacement. I think he's in big time trouble for a while; he better hope for more "despuésing" to shorten his suffering.

And it looks to me like Milady #3.

So Toño has been useless all along? Well, maybe. I didn't see that at first, though I did see he was a jerk when he was job searching. I guess I missed the useless part.

Andy
 

Jarifa, thank you for the recap and for all three titles ! I missed the show last night, so I especially appreciated the great retelling.

More later after I get some coffee.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good morning!
 

doris, you have called it on the dance between enablers and the enabled. Jorge’s kids were good sports. It looks like things are going better.

Andy, Toño has been pretty much useless outside of work (like on the home front) until recently and now seems to want to escape home responsibilities at every turn. “ Despuësing” : that is a good one.

Susanlynn, it was late and I couldn't decide which one or two titles to use: so I chose all three! No snow today at 24; that comes tomorrow.
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Thanks Jarifa. Very funny from beginning to end. But painful too. Jorge is still inept at giving gifts to his children. Toño is getting pounded by both Mom and Wife. Nerón is in Big Trouble with the fast-talking, hot-tempered Florezota.And Mauricio is without his Logatoys and still in danger of losing Anifer.

Well, the PSA's keep on comin'. Now the writers are remonstrating against the Mama Abnegada who does everything for her sons. Probably a good idea but doubt that this is going to change anytime soon. Cultural norms are very ingrained. And Toño had been doing better on that front lately--both in cooking and in cleaning. And I admit, I'm loathe to give children medication without trying other corrective methods first. So his arguments sound valid to me.

Anyway, it's JUST A STORY! And greatly enjoyed your version of it Jarifa.
 

JudyB, that “ mama abnegada who does everything her sons” is not just limited to the culture depicted. I have always wondered WHY? Never have found a good reason either. You and I both reminding ourselves that it’s “JUST A STORY”. LOL
 

I really enjoyed this entire episode but as always, needed Jarifa’s perfect touch to make it even better! Excellent - just excellent.

“He reminds Nerón that weeds never die” and “…Santa Claus did not come to her town. The baby Jesus did” were favorites. But visually, not so Fab’s “Are you talkin’ to me” had me smiling in spite of the fact it was uttered by a serpentine.

I wanted to give all of Jorge’s children a huge hug for their graciousness reacting to his oh so disappointing gifts. I was seriously hoping Kika Kringle would walk through the door with amazing gifts for this deserving bunch! Let’s just say I don’t agree with her sister’s assertion that “… is how she always begins and then Kika ends up dragging herself along the floor crying like an unthroned Miss Universe”. Big grin.

"Rodrigo sees himself as a realist and he is being one for Rafael’s sake". Yes, this couple are opposites in so many ways, yet compliment each other perfectly. They always put each other first and foremost. I enjoy Rodrigo’s protectiveness, shown not only for his partner but for children and others.

“Rafael already has medical tests scheduled for tomorrow. She didn’t think it would be moving that fast”. Hmmmm. I have a feeling that Renee is not going to end up being the donor (I think it may have been doris and perhaps others who said this yesterday)…I have a feeling though R&R are going to end up with a child.

I thought the actress playing Flor was amazing last night. Her expressions when Roberto first came to visit were priceless.

Tono needed a strong dose of reality and Esperanza really gave it to him, didn’t she? “Toño wants to know what kind of a quartet. Are they playing poker? Count him in” was great and I enjoyed the entire charade.

Jarifa, doris and Judy, I am not sure there are many mothers who may not spoil their sons a bit. At least :) One of my brother's wives (wife #1) loved my mother but told him that he and my other brother were reared like "Irish princes". Not quite sure if that had a deeper meaning, but I got the drift. Let's just say she did not follow suit.

Milady #3 Andy? What an eye you have. I am so happy you said that, I did think she was different than the previous night's baby so thank you.

“Mauricio thanks him because maybe they can prevent Maria from appearing out of nowhere and taking Anifer. Yes, and isn’t Jorge in almost a parallel situation with the missing Dulce???

And where on earth is Ani's mother? I think she is either in jail or hiding out.

Jarifa, another home run. Thank you!!!

Diana
 

Diana, Flor was at her best last night when she took control of the situation with her “papirrongo” and set him up. I always enjoy when she goes on her rants in Spanish. I just have to laugh.
 

She sure was Jarifa! I loved the little prank. Served Neron right!

Diana
 

If Renee donates an egg, have R. & R said who will carry the fetus?

Hubby's mom did evrerything for her own hubby and boys, them played the martyr. I made sure our son knew how to clean his own room, bathroom, and did his own laundry by the time he entered high school. No spoiled prince from this mom.

And I thought Milady looked different because of her sprouty pigtails. LOL.
 

Thanks Bunches Jarifa.

SOMEBODY and I finally agree on Tonto. Useless as tits on a bull, lazy, thinks the world owes him a life on Easy Street. His Mama finally saw the train wreck that she raised.

Well, it didn't take many minutes for Flor and Rolo to get Neuron's goat. She was the best thus far in this show last night. It gets old hearing about how you're going to die. Shit or get off the pot Neutron. Either do it already or shut up about it.

Yes, Milady 3 for sure. They should have kept #2. This one appears Asiatic. She/he resembles Neuron only in number of appendages.

R&R are getting waaay too impatient with this egg deal......Maybe they rent a newborn for a while and see how they like their new hobby before they goo all in. 'Breast feed or Formula?'

Kika does seem to have the Duluth syndrome doesn't she?

© kirbo
 

So nice to see your beautiful avatar Kirby.

I wonder if they have a pool of babies and will now just pick one when Milady needs to be in a scene...Similar to the steno pool of a hundred years ago :)

Diana


 

Good one, Kirby, the baby only resembles Nerón “in number of appendages”.

Diana, I like the idea of a “baby pool.” Ah, yes, the “steno pools” of other times . . .
 

Tono deserved to be told that he was coddled, but his mother didn't have to resort to the insults and name calling. I didn't think that was funny at all. Also, Tono called Vero out on not doing anything for their kids either, not even breakfast. So he's holding up his end in addition to his job, but Vero just got a new nanny to do everything home related. She doesn't want to do both. I still don't think it's right that Vero just permanently places the suegra into the home without Tono's opinion. If it was her mom, that would be different.

I was expecting Kika to show up with presents too. At least he tried- I didn't really expect him to get it right. They should make lists next time.

Mauricio may be attached to Anifer, but that doesn't give him the right to keep her away from her mother. Jorge is in the same situation, but Dulce would have a harder time to take the kids from him because of the abandonment. In Anifer's case, we don't know if Maria fell victim to Fabian's schemes.

At first I almost believed that Flor and that man were actually getting along well. If that was his plan all along, Neron had no reason to be jealous, dead or not.

Maia
 

Thank you, Jarifa.

Being a Christmas episode, this probably ran in Mexico during Christmas time. Which, if it is like in the US, is low ratings time. So don't expect any real plot developments.

In addition to the multiple PSAs, we got more Barbie product placements with the dollhouse gift to Anifer. We have seen those product placements before, when Anifer was talking to her Barbie doll at night, and when Tania and Anifer were discussing their Barbie dolls, and even Kika, I think, had a Barbie collection. Knowing that Televisa puts distracting stickers even on car logos, if you can understand the product name - it is product placement.
 

Judy, I agree. I did it like Vero dismissing Tono's research on meds for ADD. He made domestic points , and professionals have differing views on medicating these conditions in children. I know three psychologists and a guidance counselor..all with different views. My best friend's grandson has Aspergers ,and his meds affect his appetite. His mother is psychologist.

Kiki seems to be helping Jorge to..ahem..unwind a bit. Sexual healing?
 

Jarifa: WOW. You've outdone yourself in this recap & very detailed too.
 

Re: mama's and sons. I had a student once who felt very sorry for me because I "only" had daughters . She had two sons and a daughter, and she told me that herp "favorite" was her elder son. Wait? What? QTH?
 

'Product Placement' Even on Fakian's car, obviously a five liter yellow FORD Mustang GT they covered the pony in the grille with the word 'MIDETON' which makes zero sense. On the Ford trucks they just black out the blue oval in front.
 

I did not have brothers , but I always loved the way that my late mother in law looked at her son\ my hub. She adored him , but he was not spoiled. His father got summer jobs for him every summer from the time he was 14....mowing the cemetary, selling farm produce, working in a hospital kitchen,working as an orderly (He is a big guy and was sometimes mistaken as a doctor...good stories from that job !) He had one younger sister whom he was expected to cook for and look after when his parents were on trips. She is the one who was babied into adulthood. He was the one called in any emergency.
 

Thanks, Jarifa. Terrific title and recap.

The highlight for me was Flor socking it to Neron. When is Neron going to realize he can't put anything over her. She's got eyes in the back of her head.

Diana and Jarifa, I like the "pool of babies." May each one have their own sweet smile.

Kirby, ITA, last night's baby didn't look at all like Flor, Neron, or a combo. But a cute smile. Baby No. 1 resembled Flor most.

Fabian is a lying liar who lies, but maybe it is true that Maria is behind bars. I can think of no other reason why she wouldn't be checking on Anifer. But I'm sure she'd be behind bars for noble reasons.
 

Good Morning! Thank you, Jarifa, for you r superb recap!

I, too, thought Jorge's kids showed much restraint in their true thoughts about the gifts, especially Baldo and Lili who have never had a problem with telling Jorge what they really think. Could it really be that things are improving or was it just a kind gesture on the kids' part because of the holiday?

Maia, "Tono deserved to be told that he was coddled, but his mother didn't have to resort to the insults and name calling." ITA, I thought she was quite harsh in repeatedly telling him he was useless. I still think Tonto is a jerk, but he at least gave her three beautiful grandchildren; he held down a job until he was released through no fault of his own; and he has improved in caring for the home. I like to give credit where credit is due :-) As for Veronica, she continues to disappoint me...again making decisions without even a word to Tonto.

Diana, "I thought the actress playing Flor was amazing last night. Her expressions when Roberto first came to visit were priceless." ANd kIrby, :Well, it didn't take many minutes for Flor and Rolo to get Neuron's goat. She was the best thus far in this show last night." Flor was amazing last night! These were my favorites scenes last night!

Lucio and Kirby, in regards to "Product Placement," let's not forget the "Dog Chow" or whatever those snacks that they gave to Rola were called.

Last night, I kept asking why the @#&% Mau keeps looking to Fabian for answers...what a waste of time and energy! If Maria is in jail, I'm sure Fabian had something to do with setting her up...atleast he didn't kill her.

Susy, yesterday you brought up the PSA of women being strong and capable.I tend to agree because many of the recent TNs we've watched together have very strong women at the helm (e.g LDVDEC, MMTF, even VEA). IMO, the women in this TN are capbale and have professional jobs, but they are not as strong or as smart as the women in the other TNs.

Renee-is a professional engineer, but is very indecisive and impulsive
Veronica- is a business executive but has become harsh and unforgiving
Flor- a professional model (maybe?) but has the appearance of a fast-talking hoochie mama, though she has proven to be really smart!
Kika- a professional you-tuber/business woman who sought vengeance for decades and all of sudden doesn't care for Mau anymore..and hooked up with Jorgey Boy who considers their relationship to be only physical.
Dulce- an attorney who abandoned her three kids
Yuriria - profession unknown, but thought her kids hadn't figured out she was sick

Susy, I also agree witht your statement yesterday "I just do not like the idea of showing strong women by making the men all look like weakwilled dolts." They've really gone a little too far in this TN...IMO

 

Diana...ha.. "Irish princes "and "the steno POOL" of babies...sorry for the all caps on POOL ...I . Hate. This. D"#* tab!et. Time to get the Apple I dropped (1_foot onto the carpet) fixed ..well , right after tax season ends)
 

Dam I almost feel loved again, you too Andy?
 

"Georgy Boy, Happy Valentines Day. Guess what,.... I just peed on a stick, and your number five is on the way."
Squeeee..... I am sooo hoppy. I never wanted little ones until I met you and your kids.

Ha Ha Haa ha ha ha ha
As Homer Simpson would say DOH !
 

LOL Kirby...now THAT would be something! A little KikJor running around! LOL I was thinking what an anvil it would be for JorgeyBoy if somehow the TN Gods would have that baby end up with R&R ...or if Lili had been pregnant (which there are no signs of yet) that R&R would adopt it.
 

I actually suspected that is what they were setting up with the "Just one Time" with Lil and Pablo, that with Lili still a teen, R&R adopting would kill two birds with one stone.

(Just an archaic figure of speech, Mr. E) ☠
 

Kirby, I always have a warm and happy feeling when I come here and have to check that my Depends are not leaking :-)

Lucio, yeah, they have been hitting the Barbie promotion hard for quite some time now. But at least it's a little believable. Anifer is a little girl, little girls like Barbie. If she had opened her present and found a case of Tecate, though she's a talented little actress, that still would have been too much to pull off.

Maia, I agree with all your points. Toño's mother is over the top, and they are all being harsh with him. He deserves a lot of it, but he has been trying. It's not like flipping a switch, he can't go from near zero to 100% overnight.
Flor was delicious! She is the funniest character in this TN, by far. Poor Gladys just doesn't have enough to work with this time out.
Rgv Chickie, I think Flor Ivon is a "fast-talking hoochie mama" and really smart. That may be the whole point, and I think she could hold her own against other "strong" women in other TNs. Granted she is not a doctor/lawyer/engineer like Barbie is, but not everyone wants to be.
Can you tell I'm a big fan of Flor?

And from time to time I wonder about Dulce. She seems to have been a decent mother, so how is it that she now has ZERO contact with her children? I find this hard to believe unless there is more to it.

pragmatic Andy
 

Hi..back again to read the new comments.

Andy... ",she's not a doctor\,lawyer\,engineer like Barbie"😂 good one.

I think that Tonto's mother should take some responsibility for how he turned out because...doh...She raised him !

I think the next PSA is going to be that you can get pregnant after having unprotected sex just once...Lily...and voila...a baby for R &, R.
 

Maia, I am a big fan of Xmas/Bday lists. They are a great way to please people and avoid wasting money.

Lucio, I never thought about it but you are right about the Xmas holiday and maybe not any major plot movement. It just makes sense!

Steve, thanks.

Niecie, yes, I agree that baby #1 was probably the best for me, too. I think that Nerón didn't really know Flor even though he thought he did, but now he knows. Ha! I sure hope María has been behind bars for noble reasons.

RgvChick, I was truly impressed with Baldo and Lili's reaction and their effort to keep the peace. Even if it were just for the holidays, it was clearly an improvement.

Susanlynn, if Lili is pregnant (which I think we are suspecting because of questioning if you could get pregnant having unprotected sex just once) that would sure solve R and R's problem. It is my gut feeling that Renée will back out of the egg donation deal sooner rather than later.

Andy, I am a big Flor fan, too. She is one smart cookie but does not flaunt it. Nerón had no idea of how he was disrespecting her. Surprise.


 

Let's not discount the fact that Fabian might have María locked up somewhere, because it serves his own interests. I do not believe a word he says, anymore.
 

Exactly!
 

Niecie and Jarifa, I would pick baby #1 too, hands down. All are cute but she melted my heart.

"Nerón had no idea of how he was disrespecting her. Surprise". Well said Jarifa.

Susanlynn, I think Pablo would be brokenhearted if Lily gets pregnant and decides to give the baby up. To R&R or to anyone... I'm thinking Lili is really "done" with him but I'm not sure that she would want to give up her baby. In the end, I don't think Jorge would either. I'm probably totally wrong but it's OK, I'm used to it. :)

Diana
 

Andy et al, I am joining you at Flor's tables. I think one is full and the second one has few seats available.

Diana
 

Jorge..next Christmas, just give the kids some cash;-) Then, they can buy whatever they want. That's my kids favorite gift.

New game...Where in the world is Maria ?
 

Jarifa, if Renee and Maury had ever bunnyhopped, I would think that she would become pregnant and not be able to donate an egg. However, as far as we know, Maury has been content with kissing. Which would mean that Maury has turned over a new leaf !!! I think that Renee will have second thoughts about her egg donation.

Doris, can you remember the telenovela bingo cards that the patio used to talk about?

Did anyone here watch LA TEmpestad? I saw it on some station in the afternoon. Long haired Damian looking damgood was marrying crazy Esther. They were just getting ready to be lassoed.
 

We've had too many time hops from when Lil and Pablo were hopping. That was loooong loooong ago. It was substantially before the first of at least two time warps. Her scrawny ass would be showing by now, and she would be laaaaaaate. Like months late.

She is a fool to have treated Pablo the way she did, but par for the course in this man hating TN.
 

I don't see Jorge agreeing with Lili to give up her child for adoption. I think he would rather adopt the child if that chance comes up. However, Pablo definitely wouldn't want to relinquish his paternity rights.

I remember watching La Tempestad primetime in Univision. I think that was Ximena Navarette's first and last telenovela role. William Levy was pretty believable in it, Laura Carmine was a little over the top. Navarette seemed a little off as the protagonist. There was great potential there but no one could save that sinking ship. The channel butchered half the episodes.

Maia
 

Maia, yes, that is a real talent of both Tele and Uni both: butchering novelas.
 

Kirby, ITA that "We've had too many time hops from when Lil and Pablo were hopping." And that her scrawny something would be showing.

Of course, my saying so probably means...

andy
 

Susanlynn, sorry I don't remember the Patio's telenovela bingo game. I might have been watching a Telemundo 'novela at that time. 🙁
 

Kirby...oh..I forgot about those time warps.
 

I remember the bingo pages from several years ago but nobody was actually using them to play.
 

Gee, no memory of the bingo pages. At all. Sigh.

Susanlynn, I loved LT. William Levy in white pants. 'Nuff said.

They did chop it like salad which was a shame. But, nothing's changed, right Jarifa? Uni's shears are still prevalent.

I liked Ximena, but yes, she vanished. Come to think of it, so did Levy.

Diana
 

Diana..yeah..those wet white pants ..which I think was Novelamaven's creation. Plus, all the play on Damien's name + adjectives...damgoodlooking, damstrong, damsexy, etc. We had fun with that one. I think that we were also doing either haikus or limericks for the characters.





 

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