Monday, September 03, 2018

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraíso 3, El Señor de los Cielos 6, Falco, y más: Week of September 3, 2018

Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
  • 9-10PM - Sin Senos Sí Hay Paraíso 3
  • 10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 6
  • 9-10PM (Sunday) - Falco
A new telenovela, Falsa Identidad, is scheduled to begin September 11. It will replace Sin Senos sí Hay Paraíso 3, which is currently in últimos capítulos. Among the stars will be Eduardo Yáñez, Sergio Goyri, Luis Ernesto Franco, whom many of us loved as Rodrigo in Bajo el mismo cielo, and Uriel del Toro, who played Andrés in Al Otro Lado del Muro. 

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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sin-senos3 #59

all assemble for the wedding in the hospital chapel, Dr. Martin watches from afar, Hernan arrives in a wheelchair, and the late comers are Santi and Sebas.

Calvo picks up Diabla's new face, with body attached, and delivers her to the clinic, Diabla checks her out, touchy feely, while having a smoke.

Vane pleads with Jota to let her out, nope, they are missing the wedding.

Titi talks baptism for cata p, Mari can't wait till Mom finds out cata p's last name will be Jaramillo.

Mari asks Titi who he wants the baby to be like, her or her mom, he says neither, a narco or a prepago.

Diabla approves, Calvo knocks out the girl with the face.

Titi prepares for his trip to Mexico to meet with Villa, Mari says she will keep an eye on his business, this doesn't sit well with him as he says to himself, "this girl is trouble".

Hernan and CM, accepto, as Cata G remembers her marriage to Santi and Hilda/Albeiro remember not getting married.

Martin slides in for a look around as Dan comes up behind him, but doesn't recognize him right off, giving Martin time to slither off.

Hernan and CM are married, they kiss, Albeiro asks if he can call him son.

Hernan stands and thanks all for coming, then collapses onto the floor.

I see Sebas doing his worried routine now that he is back into the chaos.

Titi is off, Mari looks around and says all this will be mine.

Martin makes it home, but wait masked Daniel is in the woods nearby watching, so this is where he took my wife.

CM wants to hold Hernan, but the doc has her taken out.

Mendiota lets Villa know they will have the president in their pocket.

Soraya looks for Mateo to say goodbye before leaving for Bogota when Mendiota calls her, he's not home, you need to do exactly as we say, then you can see him.

Diabla wants the baby close and asks about the girls name, Calvo doesn't know.

Jota's not crazy, so now he will go look for Laura, if Paola can find her so can he.

Mari prepares to go shopping for a new wardrobe, but hands the baby to Rosalba while she makes a call, to Dayana, we need to work together she tells her, and create the first all girl cartel, Dayana says we should talk in person, tells Villa her mom is sick, she needs to return to Colombia, tells Mari she will see her in a few days.

 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

Daddy Casilas wakes up.
 

sin-senos3

Thanks again, deb. Things actually happened with a bit fewer flashbacks. The actors worked on Labor Day. That was some dark humor there: "Calvo picks up Diabla's new face, body attached, and delivers her..."

One thing you can count on about this novela is that the awful thing you fear will happen actually does.

That scene of the absolutely foul Calvo kidnapping that beautiful young woman and Diabla stroking her face while smoking right into it was just ghastly. I'm 90% sure there will be another season with that young woman playing Diabla. Well, I won't be watching it, that's for sure.

The only positive thing was Daniel finding Martín's hideout. But, will he call the TEA or the regular cops who deal with cannibals? Of course not. So it's probably 70% Martín will kill him.
 

sin-senos3

Thank you Deb, well done.

I'm really pulling for Hernan. Albeiro sort of made him promise get out of that wheelchair and live, Hernan said yes sir, so that's hopeful. As are all the people saying have faith.

I'm also hopeful that Daniel will have some success with Martin. Right, he won't call the TEA. But he's pretty smart, having tracked Martin w/o Martin's noticing.

Ingrid/Soraya has really sold her soul, and she knows it.

An all girl cartel does sound like fun, although I'm not sure Dayana is up there with Mariana in smarts. And who would be boss? That could be tricky.

Yes, Jota, you're not crazy, locking up Vanessa and the baby, even though she says the curse could happen anyway, he can't prevent it. So now he'll go look for Laura, yeah, Jota, you're not crazy.

Did that flashback with Diabla show her accidentally shooting her own mother, thinking she was CataG? I could be wrong, but is that what happened?
 

sin-senos3

thanks novelera! anyone going to dress up as Diabla for Halloween?

yep Hombre, Diabla's mother liked getting plastic surgery but died during an operation, and distraught Diabla with her pills and alcohol started seeing CataG taunting her.

 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

1.) Looks like the beginning of the end of Castillo, who's likely to get whacked by BPN's thugs in the Mexican Presidential Secret Service.

2.) Castillo has NO clue that Mayra (BPN & Jaime whacked her & buried her in the middle of nowhere) is dead.

3.) Navarro, Colon & Co., better do something instead of sitting on their asses.

4.) Who's ready for Aracely Arambula to join the cast ?

5.) Sounds like El Chema is gunning for Ritula (whom he's obsessed with) & it appears that Super Javi might get whacked if that happens.

6.) The Crazy Doctor is stalking Melina & Kashi.

 

SS SI HAY

DEB:
THANKS A BUNCH... You are a real trooper!!

god knows..HOW YOU HAVE MANAGE TO ORGANIZE THIS HOT-MESS!!!.

jota.. gone to get Laura and leaves Vanessa.. he is all-THE- WAY- GONE!! LEFT -THE- BUILDING!!


NOVELERA:

The Calvo and Diabla connections.. that's a lot of evil...creepy...yes!!

MARTIN BYE BYE!!!DANIEL IS NOT CALLING THE COPS!! trust me!!! no way!!…

HOMBRE:

YES.. YESSICA SHOT HER mother thinking she was CG, but the woman really died from over BOTOX AND BLOTCHED BOOTY ENHANCEMENT SURGERY ..BACK TO BACK, With no recovery time!!

DAYANA AND MARIANA.. maybe a half brain between the two, but, Dayana will win.. she HAS THE STREETS SMARTS!!!

 

sin-senos3

the new Diabla is Colombian actress Kimberly Reyes.

https://peopleenespanol.com/telenovelas/kimberly-reyes-nueva-diabla-sin-senos-si-hay-paraiso/

 

sin-senos3 #60

Diabla gives Calvo his last minute instructions about Mendiota and about disposing of her face and the body, when the doc's assistant comes him she tells him she wants the works, ass, tits, etc.

the docs work hard on Hernan but he flatlines.

Vane tells Jota they will starve if he leaves and doesn't come back, he leaves.

Laura puffs on her magic cigar, Paola sits and smiles.

Diabla's surgery is on with both ladies rolled in.

Alfonso is doing some kind of campaign interview as Ana sits in the back of the room, he gets an urgent delivery, it's Ana's sex pics with her ex.

Soraya doesn't go to the airport as she tries to get a hold of Mateos, Mendiota comes to get her, shows her a live video of Mateo, hmm, is Mateo naked with his girlfriend, you'll get to see him when you are Alfonso's girlfriend.

Alfonso ends the interview, kicks everyone out and demands an explanation from Ana.

Hernan dies, and walks into the light, finding his mother along the way, she reaches out her hands, but CM has taken over where the docs have quit, and calls him back, his mom can see, "it's not your time", as CM feels his heart beat, he opens his eyes, does CM now flatline? as she collapses.

after learning the pictures are from last night, Alfonso doesn't wait for an explanation, he throws Ana out, the piano plays on.

CM has only fainted, and the family hears about the miracle.

Diabla's doc begins and prays his psycho patient makes it through ok, his assistant brings up the legal question.

Martin sips his wine and plays with his knives, before heading upstairs to the plastic wrap room, Daniel watches and waits, (could it be Vale and Lucia are still alive?)

Sebas is happy to be back, when can he see his sister, soon they lie, as CG and Tony head back to the office.

Mari swings by CG's place to see what she can find, leaves the baby downstairs telling her to cry if someone comes, hmm, what's this, she finds CG's documents naming her Director of the Colombian TEA.

Diabla's docs are switching faces, (shades of mission impossible, pass the glue).

CM's fainting?, yep she is pregnant, she rushes to tell Hernan, and gives him another heart attack.

Soraya begs Mendiota not to hurt her son, he has 2 more requests, make an appointment with Santiago, you want to get rid of him right? and one with Tony.

Jota arrives in Quinchia, as Vane is destroying everything inside her cage, the baby cries.

CG arrives home, sees the car parked outside, heads in with 2 bodyguards, guns drawn, Tony stands watch outside, when he gets a call, it's Soraya, she knows he loves CG, I can help get Santi out of the way...

 

sin-senos3

Deb, I'm swamped at work and can't really say much other than to say: BRILLIANT RECAP!!!

I loved all your Class A snark.

I just can't believe the crap these writers come up with. Hernan has the paddles on him six or eight times, comes back, then off to the white light, we assume, the second time. Just kill him off or let him live. I no longer give a rat's patootie.

I don't expect the straight-arrow Tony to want to kill off Santi. And how in blue blazes do they know he's in love with CataG?
 

sin-senos3

Thanks again, Deb, great recap.

I agree with everything Novelera has said. Although at least some things happened in this episode (less flashbacks), the improbability of many things was substantial.

They must have set the record for how many times they used the paddles on Hernan. And then they gave up. And then Hernan could have walked into the light, but it was not his time. Then after hearing about the pregnancy (why are women in these shows so surprised? Don't they keep track of their periods - especially since they always have unprotected sex)? I don't think they showed how many paddles it took for Hernan to recover the second time.

I think Diabla told Calvo before the operation "make sure my face gets put on someone else" Ewwwww. So they can find that person and think she's dead. Wonder how people who know the now dead girl will respond when she acts like a druglord. Diabla's last words to the doctor were, remember Doc, if I die, you die. Then the doc later tells the other docs let's not think about moral issues here, you know who we're dealing with. And they all go along with killing that girl. No problem.

How about Jota, easily getting to Quincia? The way these writers, it would not surprise me if Jota DOES find Laura this time, even though last time they didn't even come close. And Vanessa is stuck in that room that apparently does not even have a bathroom, but let's not think about that. We did get to see her as an exotic dancer, apparently Jota talked her out of that dead-end life, because he's so reasonable......

Interesting that all sorts of people leave important papers unsecured in their homes (for Mariana to find), first Villa, now CataG. And how come Mari knows the exact way to and from Titi/Villa's house? I guess she didn't have to be blindfolded, unlike her mother.

Also, Alfonso demands an explanation from Ana Paula, and then of course won't let her say anything, couldn't she have just said "blackmail, and they'll blackmail you, too"? But no. Of course they can blackmail him, too, by the way.

It didn't seem as if Soraya was really into destroying Santiago anymore, after all the changes she's been through. But, what the hey. And yes, Novelera, of course they wouldn't know Tony loves CataG, but of course they know EVerything. And if Tony actually goes along with a plan to destroy Santiago to get him out of the way for him to get Cata, this show would not make sense at all. Which it often doesn't. BTW, even with Santi out of the way, what about Albeiro? Wonder if Tony knows about that love story?

Diabla tells Calvo she has all the information Mendiota needs. But wait, don't Mendiota and company already know EVerything? Writers, you forgot that!
 

SS SI HAY

DEB:

AWESOME!! THANKS!!..I WILL BE GOING IN THIS WEEKEND..... GOING DEEP DISH ..CAUSE ..'WE-OUT'...!!

HOMBRE:

GOOD POINT ABT SECURTIY... TEA BUT NO HOUSE CAMERA??????????
 

sin-senos3

And the ultimate screw-you to Viewerville: Martín goes up the stairs, cleaver and chef's knife, one in each hand, but they leave him at the threshold and go on to some other zany plot. We don't know if Valeria or Lucía are in that room or if he just has "parts" there so he can cut off a steak when he's hungry.

So Mariana got a document from her mother's house. But I thought she read some other name out loud from the doc, instead of her mother's. I almost thought it was the name of the female agent who was pretending to be homeless outside Diabla's mother's house. And what good would having a document declaring her mother head of the Colombian TEA do her? Isn't that public knowledge?

What I was hoping for is Cata coming in (this could still happen) and snatching up CataP. If Mariana doesn't come back with that baby, Titi will kill her for sure.
 

sin-senos3

Hombre, thanks for filling in Diabla's instructions to Calvo on her face, I missed that.

novelera, ah, 18 years ago when Santi saved CataG's life in Colombia, the TEA then took her to Miami and gave her a new identity, and that's her legal name, Virginia something, and the name that was on those documents, and of course Mari knows her by that name, but Titi doesn't.

 

sin-senos3

Thanks, deb! I was baffled by the different name.
 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

1.) Castillo records his escape for Navarro, Nora & Colon to see.

2.) The Mexican Presidential Secret Service Agents corner Castillo, who tries to tell them that BPN is crazy....

3.) Corina, Blue Eagle, El Rojo & Co., plotting next strategy.

4.) The Venezuelans plotting terrorist attacks on the United States & Mexico.

5.) BPN knocks out Castillo with the vase.

6.) The Female TV News Anchor explains to Navarro & Co., that BPN is the President of the United Mexican States.

7.) Navarro goes into a hissy fit.

8.) Ambar & the Venezuelans still plotting more chaos.

9.) Diana, the Female Nurse having fun as Dona Alba & Old Man Boxer get into hissy fit argument.

10.) Inside Los Pinos, BPN beats Castillo up by punching him & taunting him non-stop.

11.) The next morning: the Female TV News Anchor reveals the video of BPN knocking out Castillo & other crimes.

12.) Navarro & Nora are at the TV Station.

13.) Jaime freaks out & calls BPN about the latest TV News story revealing the corruption scandals.

14.) Preview for tomorrow shows BPN fleeing Los Pinos & heading towards the airport.

15.) Colon & DEA rescued Castillo from the dungeon inside Los Pinos.

16.) Castillo still has no damn clue Mayra is dead & buried in the middle of nowhere.
 

sin-senos3 #61

CG rushes inside her house only to find cata p and Mari, she sends the guards outside, it's only my daughter, hugs Mari, who spills on living with papa Titi, etc. etc. hands her a copy of the dna test, CG wants to know where she went wrong.

Soraya calls Santi and tells him his wife is at a motel with Tony, he begs off Sebas and goes to check.

Tony is already there when Soraya pulls up (wasn't she supposed to be in Bogota) and tells him husband Santi is here with another woman, he should check it out for CG.

CM is in tears at the hospital, Hilda gathers all up for a group prayer.

Diabla gets bandaged up.

Mari and CG go round and round with various flashbacks of their past, and in the end Mari just leaves, with CG finally thinking of the baby, too late, she takes pics of her car and calls Tony, where are you? (she could have followed and found out where Titi lives)

Tony lies on a floor, no shirt, and a big knife in his leg, Santi arrives with Soraya, she tells him CG did it, he finds a pulse and goes to work, she calls an ambulance (not) as she leaves, and as he checks out the knife, the cops arrive and cuff him, Mendiota watches on a live feed.

Chief CG wonders where everyone one went, can't get Santi, she calls Hilda.

Mari arrives at the lab and begins giving orders, she wants Cabra (goatman) to increase production 200%, he wants more money, done, but she wants him to tell her everything that goes on, he balks, she calls Titi, who flips because she brought the baby with her, he talks to Cabra, they connect, he wants him to get her out of there and back to the city.

Hernan has gone into hypovolemic shock shock, the doc tells CM she better get the priest back that married them.

(Hypovolemic shock is a life-threatening condition that results when you lose more than 20 percent (one-fifth) of your body's blood or fluid supply. This severe fluid loss makes it impossible for the heart to pump a sufficient amount of blood to your body.)
https://www.healthline.com/health/hypovolemic-shock

Chief CG arrives at the hospital, still no Santi. (no Tony, no bodyguards, no agents at the clinic)

Vane rattles her cage, until it breaks free, she calls Jota, nope, calls Albeiro and tells him Jota went to find Laura, she's worried, and... (is she planning on staying there?)

Jota has arrived in Quinchia at the place they stayed and where they lost Paola (and what's in the bag), he yells for Laura and someone walks on behind him.

the Colonel calls CG, it's about your husband, could you come in, she pawns off Sebas (the story of his life) on Hilda and rushes out, Albeiro says he will go too, (why not?)

Calvo tells Diabla's doc, if you want to live no one can know about this, (say, whatever happened to our top agents Stephanie and Fransisco who are keeping an eye on the clinic?)

Hernan is back into the light, his mom has been waiting for him, but wait here is Marcial, he wonders why Hernan is here, Ximena, Adriana, and even Pelambra are here, Vale and Lucia? no, Marcial tells him to be strong, and Hernan heads back to be a papa, saying goodbye to his mom, again, who doesn't want him to go back to that hell on earth, just as CM arrives in his hospital room with the priest, but wait, the doc says Hernan's vital signs are stabilizing...
..
(is angel Ximena looking for her daughter, will she help Daniel?)

 

sin-senos3

Deb, you must have a secret closet where you keep the snark yeast to mix with the bread dough to help this turkey "rise". I can hardly wait to read what you'll come up with next.

Well, apparently CataG can't hear me yelling through my television to pick up the carrier with her grandchild in it. She lamely keeps trying to reason with her sociopath child while we see some flashbacks of behavior that merited one of those severe schools where you send unmanageable children.

So Mendiata's big plan is to get Santi arrested for knifing Tony, instead of having him show up to find CataG's dead body and get arrested for that. Soraya is NOT getting the deal she wants. And they've kidnapped her child and she won't see him until she's the presidential candidate's girlfriend, or fiancée, not sure.

Well, I guess they used some subtlety to tell us Lucía and Valeria were still awaiting their debuts as main courses. Come on! It appears weeks have gone by since he grabbed Valeria and he's only licked her? And I'm still mad about her lame reaction to being grabbed. Doesn't she read the same articles I read? The ones that say run in a zig-zag pattern like a football player so the chances of a bullet actually hitting something vital are reduced?

I think someone in the police had the blood test showing Yésica having HIV. So, if the body of the suspiciously taller Yésica showed up in an alley, bearing the obvious signs of a sewn on mutilated face, wouldn't they be able to determine it's not her? Gah!
 

sin-senos3

Deb, excellent as always, very good observations, and your usual subtle humor.

This show stretched credulity so much, I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that I won't be watching Season 4. Same thing happened after Senor de los Cielos season two, I stopped watching after that season (now it's season 6 or something?). Last year, in the gran finale to Season 2 of Sin Senos, there were about 20 pending conflicts, and they resolved exactly 1 (by having Diabla kill her own sister, which was not a happy resolution). I've been watching season 3 because 1) I figured the other 19 things would get resolved, and 2) I like Carmen Villalobos. But not only did they only resolve one thing (by having Daniela lose the beauty contest and then kill herself), they added about 10 new storylines, none of which have resolved. So what will be resolved in the last two episodes? I'm guessing the answer is the same answer as the answer to the question "What does a fish do?" Answer: Nada (swims).

In reality Tony would not leave CataG in response to a phone call from Soraya. In reality he would not be so incompetent as to get stabbed. In reality if he got stabbed in the leg, he would not be unconscious. In reality Santiago would not blindly trust Soraya. In reality CataG would leave her phone on, so Tony or Santi could call her. In reality CataG would follow Mariana to find Titi (or even arrest Mari, as she out right said you ordered that bomb to kill 2 innocent people). In reality Vanessa would not be able to knock her way out of a wire enclosure by hitting it with a chair. In reality Hernan would not get info about Valentina and Lucia from the dead Marcial. In reality Mariana would see that CataG didn't actually do anything bad, and would forgive her Mom. In reality, Diabla's face transplant would not allow her to fully recover and look exactly like that other girl (just guessing on this one).

But we're not dealing with reality. Maybe the name of this show, instead of being "Without breasts, yes there is paradise", should be "Without brains, yes there is paradise" (Sin cerebros si hay paradiso).
 

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