Thursday, September 20, 2018

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Falsa identidad, El señor de los cielos 6, Falco, y más: Week of September 17, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM—Falsa identidad
• 10-11PM—El señor de los cielos 6
• 9-11PM (Saturdays)—Falco

Heads Up: Falco has been moved to Saturdays and runs for TWO HOURS, 9-11PM.  There will be two hours this Saturday, and, apparently, the final two hours on Saturday, September 29.

Also, El señor de los cielos 6 is finally concluding. Starting Tuesday, Sept. 25, it will be replaced in the 10PM slot by a 13-episode novela entitled El recluso. According to Wikipedia, "The series tells the story of an ex-marine who enters a maximum security prison on the border between Mexico and the United States to investigate the kidnapping of the daughter of a prominent US judge."

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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identidad

I'll put up something, likely fairly brief, tonight.
 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

Former Mexican President BPN trying to flee to Panama or El Salvador.
 

Falsa Identidad – Capítulo 8

Wow, this novela races along like a freight train.

Diego and Chucho are there to “clean up” and apparently immediately after the murder. However, Diego sees the guy leave his child in the car. The planned murder is to “send a message” to others who haven’t paid their debts. Diego and Chucho interfere and the guy lives.

Porfirio calls Babel. I can’t remember Isa calling from there so he would have the number, but I can’t remember lots of things. Ramona gives him short shrift.

Marlene tells Isa that Porf knows she’s in D.F. (from Zoraida).

José tells Circe he can’t kill Eliseo because having Augusto close to the mayor is the key to getting the drugs across the border.

Eliseo has decided to quit his job as mayor and run for Governor of Sonora.

Marlene tells Isa they aren’t allowed to speak to the girls who work on the other side, and Marlene apparently only cares about Marlene.

Porf has gotten a job in some bar because the owner knew him as a musician.

When Gavino hears from Augusto that Eliseo is running for Governor, he’s thrilled. Gavino thinks he’ll have an inside track to the whole state, maybe even the whole country.

Circe tells Felipa her plans. First she wants Eliseo killed because he ratted her out. Then José is next. When Gavino hears what José did (presumably she’ll make sure he hears), then José will die. Then the Governor of the state and all the police will come for Gavino for being behind killing Eliseo. And the cartel will be gone. When Felipa points out there won’t be anything for her to take over, she says she’ll rise from the ashes.

Felipa figures out that what she wants is to get Diego back in town, to comfort him over the loss of his brother.

Amanda has been dropped off with her nice old grampa. She’s looking at several pages of photos of missing girls. Mateo tells Amanda that both her grandmother and her mother are zorras. Amanda erupts at this. Just then a young woman comes in to report an assault, and Mateo says he’ll take the case directly. Uh oh.

José bribes and also threatens Eliseo’s chauffeur so he’ll know every move the mayor makes.

Diego and Ricas continue to bond. Diego tells Isa about having been on TV, but not exactly how he ended up there. He assured her he had never killed anyone. She surprises me and forgives him.

Marlene talks to her mystery boyfriend on the phone and in a very affectionate way. The doorbell rings, and her younger sister is there. She’s been in Miami.

Diego insists on washing dishes, giving a lesson to Ricas.

Lourdes is being forced to have sex with the same old, disgusting guy she was with before.

Amanda once again sticks her foot squarely in her mouth. When Porf, drunk and maudlin, talks about the danger Isa and Ricas are in, she pipes up that Isa is with someone, and even who that is.

Rica gets one of those sudden telenovela childhood illnesses and Diego carries him out to take him to where his mother works (at a supermarket).

Porf pushes Amanda into a piece of furniture. She hurts her back. Mateo comes in just then.

Lourdes is just telling Isa that her family will be harmed if she tries to leave Ramona’s clutches, and Ramona confronts them, gun in hand.
 

identidad

Thanks very much, novelera, for your concise but comprehensive recap.

I'd just like to add a bit to your coverage of the "cleaning" that Diego and Chucho have been hired to do. As you say, Diego sees the intended victim say goodbye to his young son. Diego remembers how upset he was when his own father died. This apparently makes him feel more sympathy for the victim, enough so that he doesn't want him to be killed (and leave his son fatherless). He then goes into the building where the victim had gone. He arrives just as one of the two thugs is telling the victim that he hasn't paid all he owes; the thug points a gun at the victim and says he's going to make an example of him. Just as he's about to shoot, Diego runs in and prevents him from shooting. However, the two thugs manage to overcome Diego. They are about to shoot him when Chucho comes up behind them and knocks them both out with a shovel. I think Diego then tells the intended victim to take the money and care for his son. Diego and Chucho then grab whatever money remains on the floor and leave.

The next time we see Chucho, he's being interviewed on the scene by a TV reporter. The reporter speaks of him as being heroic for helping the police nab the two thugs, who are being led away in handcuffs. Chucho says something about his partner deserving most of the credit. He calls Diego over and even mentions his name (i.e., the name of the dead American whose passport Diego is using). Diego comes toward Chucho but then his phone rings. He moves away and answers the call. An angry Salas is calling him and berating him for letting himself be seen on TV and for having his "name" mentioned. He orders Diego to get away from there immediately. Salas also tells Eliseo about this, and he too is furious with Diego. Diego recognizes that he's made a stupid blunder, and he later admits to Isa that he screwed up. I think this part of the episode is important both for showing us something admirable about Diego's character and for his actions putting him in more danger.

I'm glad you mentioned Amanda's seeing some posters with photos of missing girls. We don't see exactly what photos she sees, but I wondered whether one of them might be a photo of Lourdes (Mateo's 18-year-old ex-girlfriend). I wondered too whether at some point in the future Amanda may see Lourdes, perhaps at Babel.

And even though my TV doesn't seem to communicate effectively with the characters when I scream at them, I still screamed at Amanda for once again putting her foot in her mouth when she gave her good-for-nothing father all that information about her mother.
 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

1.) BPN successfully heads to the airport & insults Castillo once again.

2.) Jaime calls Daddy Rosales (who's the President) & informs him what's going on.

3.) The Female TV News Anchor & Nora survive the shootout with El Capo.

4.) Elvira & Witchcraft Chick get into an argument AGAIN.

5.) The Casilas Family & Co., plot their next strategy.

6.) Corina tries to kill Ojeda, but he is steps ahead of her & calls out her BULLSHIT.
 

Identidad

nifty recap novelera!, a lot happens in these shows but you summarized it all so nicely.

I too was curious why Porfirio called the club looking for Chabela, what? and of course he is not the detective in the family or he would guess she is using a different name or maybe link her too Zoraida's neice.

I was wondering how our "cleaners" were going to get rid of a body and clean the place up (they didn't even suggest using poison) without even a car, and I don't suppose Diego has to worry about getting into any more trouble with bad guys than he already is.

Juanita, thanks so much for adding so much color!

that's the kind of character that Diego is, to end up on tv, ha! (and of course Salas, among other things, watches all the tv channels 24/7) it's an interesting plot twist that Diego is using an ID of a real person who is being sought after.

I found Diego's confession to Isa touching, she caught him holding back before, but this time told him he was noble for coming forth with the truth, he wanted to kiss her on the lips so bad, but when it comes to trouble, isn't Isabel really stirring up the pot working at the club, hmm, she told Jim she was married.

I wouldn't think Lourdes pic would have hit the missing poster yet, and that Isabel might make that connection, they are from the same town, Alamos, and Lourdes betraying lover is Isa's father in law, but maybe Amanda will make the connection to a picture of this girl that just came into the office, that Mateos will handle personally.

interesting that Elisio will have to step down from being Mayor in order to run for governor, hmm, they mentioned he would lose his security, (maybe before he goes he could fire the chief of police)

 

Falco

I'm not feeling up to another two-episode recap tomorrow night. I'm hoping for a volunteer, even a brief "just the facts" could serve to stimulate discussion.
 

identidad

Juanita, thanks for fleshing out what happened with the "cleaning crew". Your description was excellent!

I had to force myself not to do a full recap because these episodes are so interesting and the speech so colorful. But I needed to get myself to bed as Friday is an early work day for me.

I'm especially enjoying all the mexicanismos and the opportunity to share some of these with my co-workers. And there was the serendipity of hearing baros both last Saturday on Falco and last night from - I think - Diego. All these years watching novelas and I'd never heard the peso referred to as a baro.
 

Identidad and General

I'd like to be the supplier of all the fake money they show on Telemundo. Considering that nearly all the programming has a narco aspect, we are treated to inch-thick bribes to minor characters (like last night's chauffeur). And then we get the full gym bags shown in lots of different ways - big bribes to politicians; stolen full gym bags from some narco; and even occasional buried full gym bags.

Whoever prints all this and provides it probably has sent some children to college on it.
 

Identidad--
Thanks to everybody, but especially novelera and Juanita for giving us the skinny on last night's episode.

Here are a couple of additions:
Isa doesn't mind having the dog, apparently.

Augusto tells Jose by phone that the gun that killed the Procurador (aka D.A., I think) is still "disappeared," when he already knows full well Fernanda got rid of it by burying it in the garden.

Gavino doesn't trust Deivid (or is it his look-alike). He tells Piochas that sooner or later Deivid will lead them to Diego and then they can kill both of them off.

Eliseo and Salas are worried that the real Guerreros' family will not be satisfied with a couple of text messages and will try to contact them. Eliseo says he'll have to think of something.

Interesting, yes, that Diego came clean with Isa, but she's still lying to him--about where she works, so tonight will be a big surprise for Diego.

Tell me why he didn't call Isa first...does she not have a phone to use in Mexico City? We know she can't use it to call Alamos, even though Diego does all the time. But I guess we have to keep moving the story along.

 

Falco

novelera, normally, I might be tempted to try a "just the facts, ma'am" mini-cap, but I won't be home tomorrow night, so I won't be able to do any sort of recap. I'm hoping someone else might give it a try. Someone? Anyone? Pretty please?
 

Identidad

Thanks, Novelera.

So I'm not the only one puzzled how Porfirio automatically called the Babel club when he found out Isa was in DF.

I was kind of rooting for Circe but not now. She's batty for Diego who's never showed interest in her and I don't like her using Jose. Of course, if Jose let's her that's on him. I do like that he's smart enough to know it's not good business to kill Eliseo.
 

Señora Acero 5

estreno, October 15 at 10 pm, Eastern Time.

"with a jump in time of six years"

"David Chocarro , who will be the new gallant of the protagonist after the death of Daniel Phillips ( Luis Ernesto Franco )."

(with a replacement actor for José Luis Reséndez as El Teca Martínez)

https://peopleenespanol.com/telenovelas/fecha-estreno-senora-acero-5/

 

"SENORA ACERO":

Deb: Is Gaby Espino still with the TV Drama ?
 

"EL SENOR DE LOS CIELOS":

1.) Diana & Blue Eagle make love once AGAIN.

2.) BPN & Jaime keep insulting Castillo.

3.) El Capo gets cornered by Elvira & Witchcraft Chick, both of whom confirm they're PREGGERS.

4.) Of course El Capo freaks out.

5.) Nora, Navarro, Colon & the Female TV News Anchor talk about the assassination attempt on the Female TV News Anchor.

6.) Castillo calls Colon to confirm former President BPN has been arrested & is held in the underground dungeon at Los Pinos.

7.) Daddy Rosales (The President) & Jaime want something in return.....support for Jaime's likely 2024 campaign for the Presidency.
 

ID

Regarding Porfirio calling Babel.. Could it be he KnowsWhere Isa’s friend works and is trying to track her thru her friend. Otherwise I too don’t see how he knew to call Babel



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Identidad
On the episode that Isabel called Amanda and Porfirio grabbed the phone from her, she called from the phone at Babel. I think I saw Porfirio looking up the number on the internet from Amanda's phone, and that's when he realized the call was from Mexico City, then decided to call back that number. I could be wrong of course, but that's what I remember seeing

 

"FALCO":

Novelera: You're doing the recap from last night's 2 HR episode ?
 

Falco

Capitulo 11

Some quick bullets in no particular order:

- While Falco is on Bravo's trail and questioning Bravo's daughter, Bravo is breaking into Falco's place and sees his suspect wall.

- The Fauna hostage-taking continues. Falco and crew figure the execution from Capitulo 10 was not planned. Later the Fauna's put up a tape threatening another hostage with a drill. Falco notices a masked Fauna is tapping out their address in Morse code with his fingers. They discover the drill-threatened hostage is the business magnate's son; the son is a Fauna but didn't expect violence. The son gets freed. The wife of the professor that head of the peaceful environmental organization turns out to be the secret head of Fauna; her husband's shocked. She's masked and with her crew to bomb the plant to be detonated by phone. Falco and Tenoch rush to the plant. Tenoch blocks the phone, so no detonation.

- Some security officials have a tape of Falco threatening Carolina's tormenter with a gun. The officials call in Carolina and she says she knows nothing. She later argues with Falco and tells him again to butt out. Daughter Paula thanks her pop for watching over them.

- Tenoch's new girlfriend forces her way into the detective area and she and Tenoch have a romantic spat, much to Falco's and the other detectives' amusement. Girlfriend gets thrown into a cell. Later, she and Tenoch get it on in the cell.
 

Falco

Capitulo 12

- A carpenter gets bound, duck taped, and throat slit. Of course, Falco finds some trinket that no one else sees outside the murder scene. It has the emblem of some covert Argentine ops.

- Carpenter's daughter is shocked to find out from Falco and Tenoch that her dad had two identities, but it seems he's lived a peaceful life the last half of his life. She knew he was Argentine, not Mexican, but knew nothing of his past.

- Falco and Tenoch question a war crimes investigation (I think) organization. The head knows nothing about the assassination, but her young assistant seems suspicious. In the end, The assistant got payback because her father was brutally murdered by the carpenter's crew when she was a little girl. Later, Falco has a chance to arrest her, but let's her go (to escape to Argentina presumably).

- Falco confronts retired police Zepeda about his shooting 23 years ago and tries to con him that Bravo gave him up. Falco and Bravo agree to meet (on a roof of a parking lot)? Bravo pulls a gun, but confesses to Falco that "they made him" execute Falco. Then, Zepeda, who secretly followed the two men, shoots Bravo in the heart.
 

Identidad

Evageline, yep, the only logical explanation is that she called from the club, thanks for pointing that out, I was under the impression that Marlene and Isa had left the club on the way to Marlene's apartment and had stopped in the lobby there, but it wasn't very clear.

 


Identidad

"escaparme de este camino es mi destino", so goes the theme song.

Nett, hmm, the only people that I think have been revealed so far that know the connection between Isabel and Marlene (other than the club), are Zoraida and Ricas, and I think Diego found out too.

a little detail from Friday night, the Babel is in Jim's name as the legal owner, but Ramona added that he/it were broke and only being kept afloat by Gavino's money.

 

Falco

wow, thanks so much Niecie, so nice of you to take the time to post on both of these shows!

interesting that Falco notices there is another Fauna in mask when the hostage isn't being shown, yep, the guys son is with the gang, but hey, Falco played them right noticing the dissension when the Fox killed an employee.

also interesting that as Falco gets close to Juanpa's daughter, Juanpa starts spending time with his, and also the way Juanpa turned in the video (assuming he did) of Falco shaking down the brothers forced Falco to keep an eye on Caro allowing him time to check out Falco's place, he was good at being a cop.

and the way Falco being certain that Juanpa shot him, still held back, emphasizing that Juanpa was his best friend, I think that when Juanpa set up the meet he was going to spill and ask for forgiveness, but Falco unknowingly lets Zepeda tail him who kills Juanpa, but only after he spills on being forced to shoot Falco, hmm, there is still more to the story, and Falco seems to be after the truth, rather than revenge.

and cute that we get Tenoch's love story moving along, she takes the rabbit but leaves him something to ward off evil spirits.

and yes, the dead carpenter was part of an Argentina death squad, back in the day, taking a young girls father before her eyes, who evened the score, but it was only after Falco could see that the vengeance was over for her, did he let her go, never to return to Mexico.

 

Falco - #11

Thanks a million, Niecie, for the two recaps. You did an excellent job!

For some reason the Fauna two parter was not as interesting to me as some of Falco’s earlier cases. Yes, Gael Orellano was part of Fauna, something I suspected from the very beginning. This is sort of classic, that the son of a father who made money ruthlessly then has everything he could want, goes to a good school, and gets “woke”.

The guy Sebastían, I think, that they caught at the “hostage” location and Gael appeared to want out of the whole thing after the Professor’s wife killed an innocent person in the lobby. Sebastián coached Gael in the Morse Code message. Of course Falco was the only one who could de-code the moving fingers.

The actor playing the Zorro and the shooter of the innocent person was Lumi Cavazos, whom I remember fondly as the lead in “Like Water for Chocolate”.

I find Carolina’s anger at Falco ridiculous. Paola appears to agree with Falco. If someone beat me like that I would be grateful for someone, anyone, putting a stop to it. But it appears that the parents of Iván and Guillermo want to file charges. And Caro didn’t mention why the whole thing happened in the first place – that Iván was threatening a girl who didn’t want to go out with him.

I got a big kick out of Tenoch and Inés having sex in the cell. I didn’t quite understand why he appeared to break up with her. She said she lost her phone and that’s why she didn’t call him back. And she showed up at the cop house to explain. Oh well, all’s well that ends well.
 

Falco #12

I liked the second episode a lot more. Ever since I saw “The Official Story” I have been interested in the abuses of the military junta that ran Argentina between 1976 and 1983. There was an inspiring group of women, called The Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo, who wore white headscarves and protested. They had lost sons and daughters, called los desaparecidos, children that had somehow run afoul of the government.

Zepeda’s young wife heard everything Falco said to him. I wonder if that will play into Falco getting justice.

It was subtle, but I got the impression that Bravo certainly did not want to shoot Falco. And that he sacrificed his family and spent hours and hours in expiation sitting by Falco’s bedside while he was in a coma.

I’m unclear about something. Was that guy Patricio, who has been wanting Falco and Tenoch to get a “promotion” to a city away from D.F., one of the guys in that photo Falco showed to Zepeda? Patricio even dangled being a Captain in front of Falco.

It was touching that Tenoch said he hadn’t accepted the promotion; he wasn’t going anywhere without his partner. I love his leather jacket and the complete turnaround from the nerdy young jerk he appeared to be in the beginning.
 

Falco

Wow! Many thanks, Niecie, for getting the ball rolling with your brief but/and helpful recaps of these two episodes. And thanks also to deb and novelera for adding much useful information. I was not able to watch the episodes until this afternoon (Sunday), and even when I finally watched, I was often somewhat uncertain about what was happening and why. The three of you (Niecie, deb, and novelera) really helped me understand what was going on.

I confess that as soon as I saw Falco find the pin saying "Nunca Más," I immediately thought of Argentina. Although it's true that "Nunca Más" could apply to MANY horrible events in MANY countries, I visited Argentina in 2008 and saw the Mothers of the Plaza de Maya demonstrating (as they had been doing for more than 30 years), and that made a huge impression on me. The 1970s and early '80s in Argentina saw hundreds if not thousands of innocent people (including the children of the mothers demonstrating) kidnapped, tortured, and killed by those in power. In Falco, the killer turns out to be a young woman whose father and young brother were "disappeared" by the man she killed and many others like him. I confess that I was pleased when, instead of arresting her for murder, Falco tells her to leave Mexico and never come back.
 

Falco

At the end of episode 12 of Falco, they announced that the Final Episode would air next Saturday at 9PM. I was struck by the singular "episode," rather than "episodes." I checked with Zap2It, and it still says there will be two episodes, one at 9 and one at 10PM. I have no idea which information is correct.
 

Completely OT

Juanita, your visit to Argentina also seemed serendipitous with something I read this morning. I was catching up on unread San Francisco Chronicles, seemingly an unending effort. On Friday, September 14, there was an article about the Spanish Parliament voting to exhume Francisco Franco from a memorial he ordered erected to honor the dead fascists from the Spanish Civil War. It turns out they also threw in some unidentified Republicans fighting for the other side to up the numbers of fascist dead. The article also said he used forced labor to build this edifice and they estimate there are 33,000 people buried there.

The new socialist Prime Minister had promised to dig him up, er, exhume the remains soon after taking power in June. No reburial site has been named; which, in my opinion, should continue to remain unknown.

There is still quite a bit of controversy about this, as some people in Spain still admire the dictator and others want recognition for his victims, in accordance with the Law of Historical Memory approved in 2007. Relatives of the dead Republicans want their Republican dead, many of whom lie in mass graves, identified and reburied in a place of their choosing.

So dictators are the same everywhere, erecting monuments to their "glorious achievements" while imprisoning and/or killing off dissenters. I am currently reading a novel about the repression under Pinochet in Chile.
 

"FALCO":

Novelera: I KNEW Zepeda was dirty! The sinister conspiracy against Falco here is getting bigger & bigger.

Sounds like Falco was getting too close to exposing something explosive & got shot 23 years ago.

I see they took the Death Squad sequence from the bloodthirsty Argentine Military Junta days.
 

OT:

Juanita: I do NOT see them digging up Spanish Dictator Francisco Franco anytime soon.
 

Falco

I have been watching but have had little time to comment. It has been very enjoyable and an easy watch. Here is hoping it is renewed for a second season. I like the Falco character and his crime fighting buds.
 

Identidad:

I have been watching so far and like it. What I'm saddened by is that they made Eduardo Yanez into an evil prick. Whyy Telemundo?
 

Falco

Sure hope there are at least two more episodes. I don't see how they can wrap this up with only one more. Anyway, Falco and Tenoch's friendship alone would make a good weekly series.

Although Bravo's chest wound seemed fatal, I'm wondering if he'll be able to eke out a few words to Falco.
 

OT:

I'm also mad that TM keeps censoring the cuss words. It makes lots dialogues fall short. I mean TM can show violent deaths each and every episode that make Mexico look like a hopeless, drug induced warzone but they can't afford the advertisers to hear the F Word right?
 

OT: Countx, ITA. If they can include them in Mexico, why not here? It goes for Uni, too.
 

OT

I 100% agree about the annoying censoring of swear words, some of them very mild, like pendejo. Really? Carajo Really?

It's been very annoying on Falsa Identidad, where the speech is very slangy, very Mexican, and loaded with palabrotes. Let us hear them!
 

OT:

I guess TM does it on purpose. Each time a bleep happens the board takes a shot of Tequila!

I mean if you're so busy trying to make Mexicans look like uneducated, drug-ridden neanderthals that curse in every second sentence they make TM might as well have some fun with it!
 





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