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Identidad.

Here is a little of what I can remember, I wasn't concentrating much last night

Isa and Diego finish making love. They both say they haven't felt that way before. And they talk, Isa wants to know who he is... He says tells him what he used to do, but has never killed anyone. Also, Gavino is after him because he slept with him wife. Is isn't happy about that, but gets over it quickly.

Augusto packs, Fernanda wants to know where he is going. He lies that Eliseo has sent him to Tamaulipas, but Fernanda insists and finally gets the "I loved you in my own way. Ask your son."
Then she cries... Eliseo tells her the truth about Eliseo killing Ramiro and knowing that she hid the gun. She listens to the audio. (I didn't hear or see what happened between her and Zoraida)

Jim talks to Ramona. (Why is she so bitter though?) He says everything that is happening was not in the agreement. Ramona wants to review the terms?? And ooh, she mentions something about Jim killing a person. Does he want another beating? He gets out of her office, talks to the girl I think I saw unlocking the chains that tie the other girls to beds, she says she is there because she wants to, but she knows some who aren't.

Marlene confronts Deivid(what's the spelling of his name?) About the beating he and Piochas gave Jim, he says he was following orders. She calls him a coward and says she would never be interested in him. He later saves him from a huge guy who wanted to rape her I think.

Chucho and Diana talk, about school and work while they take care of Ricas. She later asks for his number.

It's Jose and Circe's wedding. He waits for the bride who talks to Deivid, I think about Diego, she goes back inside, tears the dress, puts some jeans on, and she gets outta there and spies bihind a bust. Joselito goes in and finds a dress, he figures out what happened.

Then the next day, outside casa Corona, Isa and Diego wait for Mateo to leave. They also see Porfirio leave, (whose car is that?) Isa jumps in through the window. As they are packing up, Diego sees Porfirio go back inside and of course he catches Isa and Amanda while they are leaving, when he starts to choke her, Diego comes and hits him... Tells him so many things I didn't get, they fight and leave Porfirio on the floor then run out. Porfirio follows them and takes a picture of the number plates of the car they took off in.

Also, Augusto called Gavino to tell him Eliseo threw him out. He wonders what will happen to the merchandise that was on it's way to the boarder

 

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Identidad
That was episode 13...
Forgive the typing errors. I was in a hurry. I actually wrote that from my phone.
Circe spies behind a bush, not bust.
Also, Deivid saved her(Marlene), not him
Someone please add what I left out.
 

Identidad

Thanks VERY much, Evageline, for coming to the rescue with your recap. I think you got most of the important stuff. How you managed to do it on your cell phone, I don't know. I could never have done that!

You asked about what happened with Zoraida. Fernanda was angry with Zoraida for removing the gun from where Fernanda hid it. She feels Zoraida has ruined things for Augusto and for her. She says she has always regarded Zoraida as a member of the family, not as a servant, but what she (Zoraida) did is unforgiveable, and so she fires Zoraida. (Of course, if I remember correctly, when Fernanda did this, she still believed that Augusto was trapped by the Gaona cartel, that they set things up to look as if Augusto had killed Ramiro. Also, she believed that Augusto had risked his life to save her, and that he was shot because he tried to save her. So, if all that really had been true, it's understandable for her to be furious with Zoraida for turning the gun over to Eliseo and Sanas. It's only after Eliseo plays the recording for Fernanda that she recognizes the very bad things Augusto has done and the people he has betrayed. But by then, Zoraida has been fired.)

As for the spelling of Deivid, someone (possibly novelera) pointed out a few days ago that the name is probably spelled that way so that when a Spanish speaker says it, it would sound the same as an English speaker saying David.

Circe keeps trying to get Deivid to admit that Diego is in town for her wedding. He refuses to do so. He also tells Circe that in fact, Diego is with another woman. Circe says that if Diego isn't for me, he won't be for anyone. Uh oh, not a good sign. As they say, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Again, many thanks for the recap.
 

Identidad

Thank you so much Juanita.
Now that you mentioned, I remember seeing Zoraida packing, but since I wasn't listening to what they were saying, I would have easily concluded that she was packing for Fernanda to go after Augusto, lol... I think she is almost the type that would do that...
Now my main question of the day is, Gaona needs someone in the government, who is it going to be?
I am crossing fingers for it not to be Salas (since I doubt the Gaona cartel) will find someone so close to Eliseo) Good people always turn to the bad side in this novelas. Please let it not be Salas, he is so efficient that he is actually my guarantee for Eliseo to last longer in this novela.

Also Juanita, you just made me remember Circe telling Felipa that she doesn't just want Diego to remember her before he goes to bed as of the ritual they performed, she wanted Felipa to add more honey so that Diego can think of her ALL THE TIME... Lol, somebody wake her up
 

identidad

Thanks so much, Evageline. Great job! And on a cell phone!

I surely hope they're not going with Felipa's spells actually working! I had more than enough of that brujería crap in Sin Senos. He's already in love with Isa, so - fingers and toes crossed - Diego doesn't get a yen for Circe now.

One good thing about Zoraida's situation. Fernanda promised her una buena liquidación (severance pay). I hope it's PLENTY.

Maybe Zoraida could move to D.F. and care for Ricas. But, whoops, Marlene doesn't want her auntie to know what she does for a living.

Also, Piochas managed to survive the shoot-out at the border where federales were ready for them to try to move the drugs across. It wasn't clear to me whether the shootout was with the Mexican police or the border patrol and/or DEA on the US side. But I think I remember him saying that out of 11 Gaona guys, 3 were killed and 6 taken into custody. Sadly, Piochas survived, along with some other guy.

Apparently the Colombians are going to be coming after Gavino, and he told Augusto that they'd be after him too! I really don't understand why Augusto was stupid enough to stick his head in the lion's mouth coming to Gavino. He should have run to some tiny pueblito in, say, Chiapas, to hide out.
 

Identidad

Thanks, Evageline. All that from a cell phone? I'm in awe.
 

identidad

I'll put up a VERY incomplete recap a little later tonight.
 

Identidad - Capítulo 14 Parte 1 de 2

This is really just a list of some of the things I remember. It's FAR from complete. I'm hoping people will add to it, correct it where it's wrong, etc.

Circe is running away from her wedding. She grabs the keys to a car and speeds off toward the exit from the house's grounds. A guard places himself in the car's path and tries to stop her. She hits him with the car and drives off.

Fernanda is consumed with guilt over being taken in by Augusto and placing him ahead of her children.

Amanda is not happy seeing Diego with her mother. Isabel says "You know I didn't leave your father for Diego." She promises Amanda that Diego is not her novio. Amanda feels much relieved. She says she knows that her father was cruel to her mother, and that's why her mother left him, but she (Amanda) does not want another father. She wants just the three of them to be together. Isabel tells Diego she doesn't want Amanda to know yet about their relationship.

José comes upon Felipa as she's talking on the phone to Circe. He grabs the phone and asks, "Where are you, you traitor?" End of conversation. José then grabs Felipa and demands that she tell him where Circe is. He drags her in front of several of the others in the Gaona cartel, including Gavino, and continues to insist that Felipa tell him where Circe is. When she says she doesn't know, he hits her hard in the face with his fist. She continues to maintain that she doesn't know, and he continues to beat her. [The actor playing José is doing a good job of making me forget how much I liked him as Andrés in Al otro lado del muro] Finally, Gavino tells José to stop beating her; it's clear she's not going to reveal (no soltar prenda) where Circe is.

Mateo calls Eliseo and informs him that Diego beat up Porfirio. Mateo says Porfirio is making a formal accusation against Isabel. They'll not say anything about Diego, but he wants Eliseo's help in getting Amanda back. Soon afterward, Eliseo calls Diego, tells him he knows they're in Alamos, and lets him know about the warrant for Isabel's arrest for kidnapping.

Gavino is upset that the Colombians want him to pay for the cocaine that was seized by the feds. He doesn't know how he'll be able to do this. He orders Deivid to take Felipa away and kill her. Felipa tells Gavino, "You think you're eternal because you're not afraid of anything, but the person who has no fear has no future." She also tells him that his reign (reinado) is about to end--today.

Marlene comes to see Jim. He tells her that she and "Camila" were right. Lourdes was not here of her own free will (por voluntad propia), and she isn't the only one. Marlene admits that she has known that all along, but she didn't want to get involved. But now things are more serious. She asks Jim what they should do. His answer: nothing. He has a ton of bills to pay, and he's dependent economically on his socio. "Do you know who that is?" he asks. It's the head of the Gaona cartel.

Deivid drives Felipa out into the countryside (where presumably no one would find her body). She pleads with him not to kill her, he's not a bad person. Several times, it looks as if he's about to kill her, but finally he lets her go. He drives away, leaving her in the middle of nowhere.

Zoraida calls Marlene and tells her she's been fired. Marlene offers to help, but Zoraida says she doesn't need help.
 

Falsa identidad - capítulo 14 - Parte 2 de 2

Eliseo arranges to meet Diego. He goes out but is spotted by Circe, who is sure he'll lead her to Diego. She follows him. A bunch of other cars are also following him, but I'm not sure who they are. I think he assumes they're Gaona narcos. He gives them the slip, but Circe stays on his tail. He realizes that he's still being followed. He drives to a remote deserted building, parks, and goes in. Circe follows. Eliseo remains hidden from view. Gun in hand, he gets in back of her and tells her to stop. She does so, raising her hands. She tells him she's not looking for trouble. She simply want to find Diego. Eliseo tells her to forget Diego. She tells him that she loves Diego. She tries to grab Eliseo's gun, they struggle, the gun goes off (I think). End of episode.
 

identidad

Oops, obviously the first part of this sort-of-recap should have been entitled Falsa Identidad, not just Identidad. Oh well.... That word is far from the only thing missing.
 

"FALCO":

Juanita: Do you think Falco will stop the people, who conspired to kill him ?
 

Identidad

thanks so much for the recap Juanita!

and thanks to Evageline for Thursdays!


General

reCAPTCHA won't fully load on my old computer system at home so I'm not able to post from there, so I'll be scarce until I figure something out.

 

identidad

Juanita, for an incomplete recap, that was very good! Thanks a million!

I'm sort of fed up with Amanda. And I think Isabel made a big mistake denying she was having a relationship with Diego because the kid can't seem to see how truly awful her father is. Even after he threw her against the furniture. Of course, in telenovelaland, she appears to be perfectly fine now.

Now, Circe is even more obsessed than the usual "other woman".

I HATE those cliffhangers where you can't see if someone, anyone was shot.

Hmmm. Salas stuck up for Zoraida and even said something about her knowing an awful lot of things and maybe it wasn't so smart to let her go. Maybe they're hinting she'll end up back in her job.

Something odd was hinted at with Marlene's boyfriend. The first time she spoke with him on the phone she was all sweetness and light. This time she seemed kind of panicky about his showing up in D.F. So, it seemed to me that maybe he lives elsewhere and only shows up occasionally. Could he be Gavino? Probably not, given the total disgust she portrayed to Deivid about narcos. But I'm pretty sure he's married.

I almost believed Felipa was grateful to Deivid until she told Circe over the phone that the muy cobarde wasn't able to kill her. Gavino looked unsettled about the things she said to him about everything going south against him, and soon.
 

identidad

Deb, so sorry about your computer problems. I always look forward to your comments.
 

General

deb, if you email me at cq9 AT yahoo.com, I may be able to help with your computer problem.
 

identidad

Thanks very much, novelera, for your supportive and very interesting message. You highlighted some things I didn't mention that may well turn out to be important. I too was struck by Salas' (my fingers keep typing Salsa) intriguing remark regarding all the things that Zoraida knew. And I too wondered once again about Marlene's boyfriend. When Jim asked her whether she knew something about the Gaona cartel, her "no" was rather unconvincing. I had been assuming for a while that the boyfriend was Deivid, but some of the things she said to him when he saved her from the man who grabbed her in her lockerroom made me doubt that Deivid was the novio. (Though when he didn't kill Felipa, I began once again to think perhaps he was. Ms. Decisive, that's me!)

As for Felipa, I don't really know what to make of her. However, I loved your saying you hoped we weren't in for more brujeria. I too had more than my fill in Sin Senos3. ¡Ya basta!
 

Falco

I'm back!

first hour, Falco finally got some sleep, (the bad guy's gas), but I don't think it helped.

second hour, nice intro reminding us of the Falco story.

please don't hurt the Falcomobile (as Kat calls it), too late.

adios skinny doll and chubby bunny (as they called each other in the english captions).

Tenoch, so sad, so sad, so sad.

Eva Salomón, one of the most unique novela characters I have ever met, she referred to Falco and Tenoch, as her friends.

 

Falco

deb, I'm delighted to see you got your computer problem fixed and you're back. I loved your super-speedy account of last night's episode. I esp. enjoyed your summary of the first hour: "Falco finally got some sleep, (the bad guy's gas), but I don't think it helped."

The two-hour episode left me quite puzzled. Some of it, I'm sure, results from my inadequate Spanish, and perhaps some is the result of my having missed two weeks while I was away. But still, I had hoped I'd have a better understanding of what happened. Yes, I know what happened to Tenoch (so sad, so sad, so sad), and I know what happened to Zepeda (so deserved, so deserved, so deserved). But I don't really understand what happened to Falco. At the end, we see him running. He left his family that he supposedly cared so much about, with just that inadequate note to Paula? His running reminded me of the clichéd ending we used to see in westerns and noir novels, with the hero going off alone at the end, leaving the woman who loved him. Just where does Falco think he can go? And all his efforts to find out what happened don't mean diddly squat?

Another thing...I hope VERY VERY strongly that Telemundo isn't going to try to milk this for another season. What makes me fear that they might is that someone in last night's episode (I don't remember who) said something about the people who gave the orders being much higher up, and that Zepeda was just a pawn (or something to that effect). Huh?

Finally, I was surprised at what happened to Tenoch. I was expecting that we'd get to zero hour and the bomb wouldn't go off. Guess I've been too used to American dramas where the good guys prevail at the end. I think what happened to Tenoch makes sense, I'm not criticizing that part of the ending, it just surprised me. I guess I should think of that as a positive thing.
 

Falco

thanks Juanita!

I too was puzzled by the ending, Falco obviously made his decision early on when he wrote his good bye note to Paula and asked Mares to look after them, then there was Salomón expressing to the new Comandante that Falco and Tenoch had made her aware of the corruption around them, and then there was the promise to Falco in exchange for his help of names, documents, proof, of what was going on, and then there was the envelope addressed to him at the end that someone else picked up.

 

Falco

MANY THANKS, deb, for your saying that you, too, were puzzled by the ending. I found quite helpful your account of elements that went into the ending. I guess I'm still wondering whether the ending is meant to be final and ambiguous, or whether Telemundo is shamelessly setting the stage for a second season. (No, all that "s" alliteration wasn't deliberate, but I've decided it suggests a hiss :-) )
 

"FALCO":

Juanita: I'm sensing this sinister conspiracy against Falco involves more powerful & wealthy elite people.

Telemundo will milk this for a 2nd Season & noticed they did NOT use the "FIN".

I was also puzzled & disturbed that Falco decided to run away. WTH ? Why didn't he run towards his law enforcement colleagues ?

Deb: I went ROFLOL at your reference of Skinny Doll & Chubby Bunny. Couldn't stop laughing so hard.
 

Falco

I am going through my annual bad fall allergy season. And also the "dying of the light" syndrome. I love summer, especially June, with looooong days. And I get a bit of SAD in the fall.

So I thought idly about doing short recaps when I started to watch the two episodes, but I just couldn't find the energy.

The first one was beyond weird. So the killer has a crown of thorns at the beginning; and, later on, we discover he was killing the nearest and dearest of people who had been involved in NOT accepting him into a "cure for the poor" or some such program that was going on at the convent. And the Mother Superior of the order was covering for a killer? Please. At least it looked like she was going to jail.

I was quite mistaken about the young wife of Zepeda. When Falco was talking with him about the conspiracy, we could see her in the background. And I postulated that maybe she'd turn Fat Boy in to get out of sleeping with him.

It was pretty unbelievable that she'd be able to arrange such a complicated plot. And, I thought it was clever their showing the guy in the riot gear pushing the guy from Internal Affairs away from the door. And later we discover it was Falco.

Falco was completely devastated by Tenoch's sacrifice. And it was typical of Caballero's logical mind that he knew they could not both get out to the bomb squad in time. So he pushed Falco behind an apparent steel door and let himself die. But I, like Juanita, used to American dramas, expected the last second disarming of the bomb.

Falco was running away either saying out loud or thinking: Never more a cop, never more a cop.

My impression of the goodbye notes, at first, was that he thought he might be killed trying to rescue Tenoch. Mares certainly didn't deserve to end up with his family. But I now think he planned to disappear in any case. The corruption was very high up, and he didn't stand a chance of actually holding anyone accountable.

Even Zepeda admitted to Falco that what they did to him was awful. He kept calling him Superman. I think Zepeda believed that, if Falco hadn't been shot, he'd have pursued those anomalies in the killing of the ex-deputy like a dog with a bone.

I would be up for another season. Michel Brown is fantastic in the role. He could be a Mexican private detective and still trying to expose the higher ups who made Bravo shoot him.

But, with the death of Tenoch, a lot of the warmth would be gone. Those two, starting off very uncomfortable with each other, and as different as two people could be, gave us the male jokes, the growing respect each for the other. The show would not be the same without that relationship.
 

El Recluso

Well I watched the first of four episodes sitting on my DVR last night. Yikes! I'm sure it's very accurate about conditions in Mexican prisons. Actually in plenty of US prisons as well.

I found the dialog extremely difficult to understand. And I was struck by the fact that all the bad words that are bleeped in Falsa Identidad are just spoken out loud in El Recluso. I don't know if this is because it runs at 10PM or it just being too hard to bleep since every other word is a palabrote

I doubt I'll watch any more of it.

To sum up, Lázaro Mendoza, is an ex-marine. They didn't show anything about his being a marine in the first episode, though. The marine part is from promos. In a flashback they show him in a suit and tie acting, I think, as security for this American guy. Wikipedia says judge, but I thought Mendoza addressed him as Senator.

For some reason Mendoza feels enough loyalty to this guy to get incarcerated in a horrible prison because they have reason to believe that someone in the prison knows who kidnapped this Linda.

Lázaro's brother is an attorney, and thus can come to visit him and to give him news of his child, Pablito. I got the impression that the mother of the boy and Lázaro's wife, may have died. Perhaps cancer. Because she was weak at the 2nd birthday party of her child and appeared to have a bad wig on.

Well, anyway, we see an awful brutal scene where the daughter of this important man is kidnapped on a beach.

The scenes inside the prison are very disturbing, and probably realistic. He gets "jumped into" a gang they call La Unión. He's impressed them by knocking out the "girlfriend" of some awful guy called La Foca (the seal). Mendoza didn't start it; the girlfriend attacked him. This Foca takes bribes for prisoners to even have a bed. And he's in cahoots with a crooked guard. So, the dialog is just about incomprehensible and the violence is chilling.

We discover close to the end of this first episode that the kidnapped girl is actually imprisoned somewhere in the maximum security prison - La Rotunda - where the show takes place.
 

recluso

Many thanks, novelera, for confirming my impression that I don't want to watch El Recluso. I tend to dislike prison dramas, and this one sounds as if it fits right into the usual mold.

Thanks, too, for your interesting remarks about Falco. I'm not yet convinced that I'd watch a second season, but I suppose it's not impossible. (How's that for enthusiasm? :-) )
 

Falco

I was extremely disappointed with the ending. The only thing that could justify it would be a season 2 since the original had several seasons. I could watch more Michel Brown. Too bad they felt it necessary to kill off Tenoch. That only made the ending more dissatisfying.
The death of a Tenoch reminded me of “The Walking Dead” where no character has ever been safe from being killed off imitating the tenuousness of real life and turning a drama on its head in a second. With no season 2, it seems too nihilistic here. Too bad. I enjoyed it all until the last episode.
 

"FALCO":

Jarifa: I'm betting Telemundo brings it back for a 2nd Season because we NEVER saw the "Fin".
 

Falco

Since they showed some scenes out of sequence, like Falco's envelope and the masked rescue, I'm wondering if Falco really left his family. I'm sure he left the police force though. So sad about Tenoch, he was just starting to have a happy personal life.

Zepeda's novia going BSC with a bomb, hated it.
 

Identidad

Thanks, Juanita.

I can't blame Amanda for wanting her family to be just her, mom, and baby brother. A novio for mom in the mix is more than she can handle right now. But, nope, Isa shouldn't have lied. She missed a "teaching" moment. Anyway, Amanda needs to get in school, make new friends, and give mom some breathing room.

Marlene puts down narcos, but clearly her novio is shady, just like her. My guess is he's just better dressed and has better diction.
 

Evangeline, Juanita and novelera--I'm looking forward to watching these two episodes I missed. Thank you. Reading the recaps in advance really helps to understand the dialog, but doesn't help contributions to conversations. Hope to catch up in the next day or two and make some comments.
 

Interesting observation, Steve.
 

identidad

I'll do a recap tonight.