Monday, November 11, 2019

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 11, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

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Sin-Senos4 #64

(4 weeks left)

Leticia seeking closure about her daughter is comforted by Hilda who is now missing 2 daughters, but they go out with the guys anyway to see Miami.

instead of calling the police, Titi and Cata have been up all night trying to come up with a plan, Titi convinces her Valeria is Diabla, and she got into the DEA probably with Hand's help, but what to do now that she is first lady, and the president is the most powerful man in Mexico, Titi is worried about her and wants her to stay with him.

Vane calls Marcela's to let them know they found the truck Cata was in, Nat joins in with, they found the driver, Rafa, but he had been beaten unconscious, they are off to search the truck, Jota slobbers goodbye kisses to Vane on Marcela's phone.

Jefe Mike has come to town to take charge, he shows Liset the Cata/Titi pics, has her recall the agents in Bogota, he's halting any operations from this office and suspending Cata.

Reyna's gang has arrived to say good morning to Cuina, (love that gate) Titi hears them on the roof.

Alf says good morning to Valeria, he wanted to look in her eyes for inspiration. (I guess he is ok with slaps, face licks, and Diabla love)

Alex has located a drum of money and the Hands are back in business, slicked up he calls a trusted guy to help with the killing.

Cata is all about saving Catica, Cuina cuts a deal, she has a car, Pilar and Cardonito are left behind, still tied. (Pilar still can't believe Titi is betraying her)

Al heads to the DEA to get updated on Cata, Jota who was warned by lawyer Marcela not to go, does anyway, but Al gets a call, it's Valeria, the first lady can get phone numbers, Al tells of Cata disappearing, Val wants to help, says she'll tell her husband (someday), she gets out a pic of Dani.

Pilar spills to Mari about Cata taking Catica, but then adds Titi is with her, that's a bit much for Mari.

Miami guys have breakfast, Hilda will open the Fashion Fair, Sebas did a great job on the catalogue, Hilda is in a daze, then Vane calls, no news on Cata, found the truck and unconscious driver, they're recalled home, looks like they will shut down the office.

Sebas gets a call too, it's Alex, he'll be coming for Cata, don't get in his way.

Alf who was sweet with Val, is now jumping on Lu and Nelly, why is he only now hearing about Hand's stolen body, Lu says it was Hand's son, he tells them to find Zoraya.

Reyna comments on how DEA Cata likes narcos, Pilar throws out how Titi betrayed them, and spins Mari on how Titi and Cata are off to start a new family, which earns her some good choking.

Al and Jota run into returning Vane and Nat, Mike spills Cata is with Titi, Al's eyes go big, (reminds me of an old Alaskan saying when there weren't many ladies, "you never really lose your girlfriend, you just lose your turn")

Mari wants to know why Titi did this to her, Reyna fills her in, he just got tired of you, men you know.

Sebas calls Alex, he asks not to be killed, he loves Alex, hmm, and Alex wants Sebas by his side, but you will have to give up your family.

 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: I see Ojeda the pig & Dalila have fled to an unknown destination. Big question is whether Navarro, Castillo & DEA know that Ojeda has gone rouge ?
 



sin senos #4
final..


I don't think Cg and Santiago would have predicted that Sebas was WEAK MINDED PUNK!!!

HE IS A COWARD!!
THIS FAMILY IS CURSED!!
 

Señor7

Highlights from #20

Rita sleeps with Fidencio, he tells her not to communicate with Carla. He tells Valdes he took care of Rita.

Dalila is hospitalized in Geneva. Ojeda takes a naughty picture of her in bed. He says they are going to Mexico.

Diana shows up at mom’s house but mom does not have her arrested. Esther asks why did you choose this path? Diana says get Berenice away from Jaime immediately!

Coked up Jaime spends the night with a man. Bere calls him next morning, yells where are you? Come home now!

Navarro meets with Ambar who says she has info on Chema and Valdes. He has her arrested.

Castillo can’t stop thinking about his relationship with Carla after another romp in bed.

Valdes wants to infiltrate the Mexican govt. He has his eye on the military guy who works with Castillo.

Joaquin wants to part ways with Pio. Pio threatens his son.

Alba puts a down payment on a ranch.

Volpi wants to discuss business with Chema.

Luzma’s back with her family.

Amado and Diana talk. Diana’s not sure they should be together.

dondi356

 

Sin-Seños4

El Final del Paraíso

Thank you, deb. Captured the spirit of the episode.

My heart breaks for Leticia.

Why should we expect the lovesick narco and the incompetent DEA agent to come up with a solid, immediate plan? Titi questioned Cata’s idea for outing Diabla and she said to him, you’re right, I am an idiot for even considering it. She should have stopped at I’m an idiot, period.

Easy escape--they just drove away in Cuina’s car! Cuina didn’t think much of Pilar either, left her tied up.

Fragile Mari on her way to another breakdown.

DEA only puts idiots in charge. Agent Rubens, what a loser. Is he going to stay there all by himself? Wait until he finds out Diabla infiltrated the organization.

Pretty sobering, when Sebas rattles off the status of family members. Just you and me, Grandma.

Do you think Sebas will really throw in with Alex or is he going to try to be a hero and stop him before it’s too late?

dondi356

 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: I'm not shocked about Diana telling Mommy Amuhada that Jaime is bad news. Mommy Casillas even told her this.

Big question is how far will Volpi go into upping the ante against the Casillas family ?

I did see the aftermath of the deaths of Irene, her hubby & Daddy. Feel awful for Athinia.


 

Sin-Senos4 #65

Hilda, having a son that died, is concerned about Sebas, Sal is taking it lightly.

Cuina offers Cata money, everyone has a price, smug Cata says she stopped selling herself long ago.

DEA meet, Ruben tries to sell Cata's disappearance as planned.

Al is off to find Cata, Marcela wants to help, keep me posted.

Titi gives Cata her phone back, she sees a message from Vane, the DEA thinks she is with Titi and betrayed them, she plans to turn in Cuina and Tonina, Titi wants to know about him.

Diabla calls Sasha, she's with Quique at the house, Quique wants to meet, Diabla will drop by later.

Lucrecia calls Cata for Alf but gets put through to Rubens, who won't say much more than Cata is missing, they will meet tonight in Pereira to talk, Val when she hears, wants to go too.

Alex meets his contact, Vadith, who is up to speed.

Art tells Shadow and Santi of rumors, a guy matching Alex's description is hiring the best gunmen and crooks, do they stop him?

while Cata works on a solution, Tonina gets the drop on them, Cuina with Catica, they want a kiss between Cata and Titi, Titi lays it on, Tonina videos, next Cuina places a call to Vane, Cata confesses on speaker phone to leaving with Titi of her own will, Vane records, Rubens overhears, calls for a meet of the unit.

Alex and Yadith go back to his place, Alex's priority is to avenge his dad, he wants info on Cata, Yadith says later, Diabla comes first.

Pilar and Cardona want revenge, Reina is listening, Cardona has connections in Colombia, Pilar has the xv4 formula, in return Pilar wants to kill Titi, Cardona will kill Cata, Reina makes them probationary cartel members.

Al shows up at the pool hall, fills Santi in on Cata being with Titi, they team up.

Cata has done all she has been asked, but Cuina leaves with Catica.

Vane fills Liset in on early Cata, and we get to see a young Cata showing Titi her new boobs, it's love.

Mari is cracking, and senses her daughter is in danger, Moncho is not having much luck squelching the fires, as she rushes out Reina is blocking the way, Mari turns on her cooler self, Reina reminds them they are dead and better to play it that way, she will get Catica, Moncho throws in we don't need Pilar or Cardona, we have a newer improved formula.

Cardona knows they are dead, gives the keys to his get-away-car in the woods, money in the trunk, to Pilar, he only asks that she get revenge in his name.

Diabla calls Sasha again, and her plan to get Cata from all sides is...

Cardona is beaten and strung upside down from the balcony, with a complimentary bullet to the head from Reina.

Alf and Val meet with Rubens while the Cata squad are going over their options, ah, Ivan is still undercover working on the Diabla mystery for Nat.

Cata and Titi get loose, Cata is on him about Tonina's gun, sure I have everything I might need here,,, (the tv froze, I didn't see the end), oh wait, Cata gets a phone pic of a dead Mari.

(looks like I will be busy the rest of the week)

 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: Let's see if the Casillas family will FINALLY whack El Capo.
 

sin senos


DEB: DONDI

THANKS FOR UPDATES


I WAS SICK with a cold and was too night quil upped to watch

but i saw china and toni a pull a fast one and held the nina for hostage...low mighty low!!1

dang.. ..!!!
bye CARDONITO!!!
PILAR..HAUL ASZZ!!

HILDA IS RIGHT THIS AINT NO TEENAGE ANGST!!!
 

Sin-Seños4

El Final del Paraíso

Thank you, deb.

Interesting scene where we break in on Berrio’s call. We hear only Berrio’s side:

She’s a criminal, a murderer who infiltrated the DEA as an agent.

She has a criminal mind and has privileged information.

Between how much she knows and the position we let her get to, she can lead us to the core of her organization and many other transnational criminal organizations.

I swear that Diabla will go down in due time. We have to wait for the right time

There’s a knock at the door. Berrio says, gotta go. Diabla enters.

dondi356

 

But how will Diabla get her anvil ?
 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: Amado vs Chema. What could possibly go wrong ?
 

Sin-Seños4 #66 part 1

El Final del Paraíso

We get a lot of grief stricken Catagrande in this episode and Titi is there to comfort and cry along with her. At one point she blames him for everything and attacks. Titi says he does feel partly to blame, he’s sorry, if he had known she was Cata’s daughter he would never have messed with her. But Dayana and Diabla led her down this path.

Titi goes on to say everyone is ultimately responsible for their own actions. We choose. He admits his own mistakes and he’s paid for some. Cata agrees but still, she blames her stuff on Diabla who was older than her, always in her ear—go ahead sweetie… and she introduced me to you, Titi. He responds, she put the worst man in your path--me, and she put the love of my life in mine—you.

Berrio and Valeria meet with Rubens. Rubens gives them the rundown. CataG is with Titi—look at the pics and we have a recorded confession, too. During the meeting, Valeria gets Sasha’s text—Catalina saw the pictures. Valeria can hardly contain her happiness.

Meanwhile, Vane, Nat, Liseth and Francicsco discuss Cata’s situation. The girls are on Cata’s side but Francisco thinks they should consider the facts.

Mari wants her daughter and Cata's and Titi’s heads. Reina and Moncho say all in good time.

Cuina’s taking a liking to little Catalina/Titica/Catica. Maybe she will keep her—little Cuinita. (This kid’s got many aliases at such a young age.) Tonina says, you crazy? We have no money and how can we get back to Mexico? Cuina has an idea, let’s call Yesica Beltran, La Diabla.

Cata tells Titi, I need to find Mari's body, Catica and destroy Diabla. Diabla, always so close…

Hilda and Sal argue about Sebas again. Sebas is her grandson with no mom and dad here, he comes first. He says she should think more about herself, her business.

Berrio doesn’t want to rush to judgment on Cata and Valeria says whatever you need, I’ll do. If it is any help, she knows Yesica Beltran is alive. Berrio is giving her the side eye. Valeria says she gave the DEA all her info on Diabla, including her address. Flashback to Sasha and Diabla making Sasha the new owner of her house complete with fake documents from a prestigious real estate company. Rubens says yeah, Diabla only rented that house, nothing there.

Rubens wants to find ties between Cata, Titi and Diabla. Valeria says there could never be ties between Cata and Diabla. Really, how so? We get no answer only a commercial.

dondi356

 

Sin-Seños4 # 66 part 2

El Final del Paraíso

Ivan is still looking for a clue. He thinks back to when he and Nat stalked Leticia. That’s it! He finds Karla Maldonado’s picture on the internet. She is identical to Valeria. He calls Nat with the lead.

Before leaving, Berrio asks Rubens to reconsider closing the Colombian DEA office. We must continue this fight together, both countries. It’s the only way to end these delinquents and murderers. He’s looking at Valeria when he says this. Besides the US is the biggest consumer and that’s why Colombia produces. No final decision on that yet.

On the way out, Valeria runs into Nat. Valeria: so glad to see you. Nat: wish I could say the same. Val: you’re an excellent agent. Nat: you’re an excellent liar. Berrio: is that how you speak to my wife? Nat: I’m sorry but most of all, I ask that you take care of yourself. He’s puzzled. Val says Nat is just jealous.

Albeiro makes a deal with Santi and Shadow to find Cata. A new Shadow gang is formed.

Cata’s whole world is crashing down. Titi has a plan—to be by Cata’s side every step of the way. He talks about the day he decided the narco life was for him. Cata understands; she was seduced by the life, too, and it almost killed her. But she changed her life. She says to Titi, haven’t you ever thought about changing yours? He answers, every time I’m in front of you, I want to leave this life behind. I’ve hated you at times but my love is stronger. It’s inexplicable.

Mari’s on the phone to Catamedia and Nachi’s keepers. Moncho walks in, what’s going on? Mari says it's none of your business. Reina walks in, we need to know.

Sebas is on a plane back to Colombia. Flashback to convo with Alex—if you are with me, you leave your family. Sebas says to himself, well, here goes.

Hilda discovers Sebas is gone.

Back at their hotel, Berrio and Valeria talk about CataG. She wants to visit with Vane. He wants her help to keep the DEA in Colombia. He asks her to get in touch with Yesica Beltran. Uh, oh. Room service interrupts.

While Berrio is taking his pills in another room, she doses his meal with poison. Sasha gave her an untraceable, Russian poison to use—a couple of drops each day for two weeks and he’s a goner. Sasha said be careful not to give him more than that, but it looked like Valeria liberally sprinkled it all over his food. Seems Berrio hasn’t been feeling well lately. He has seen a doctor but they can’t find anything wrong. It’s probably stress. Eat, eat says Valeria.

Nat shares her tip with Vane.

Quique confesses to Diabla under orders from Titi, he fired the bazooka that destroyed her face. (I have no idea why he’s doing this.)

Diabla gets a call from her “friend”, Catalina Santana: I know everything and only one of us will survive this time, Yesica! And we’re out.

dondi356
 

sin-senos4

dondi, another spectacular recap with lots of details woven in.

first I'd like to thank you for giving us Alf's one way phone chat the previous day, I didn't get all that and was confused by what I did get, who could this possibly be, and what exactly does Alf know?

I was confused about why everyone is looking at Valeria to find Diabla until I remembered Al's rescue, he must have talked more than we heard and also explains why Diabla had to cover her tracks with THAT house where they were held.

Cuinita is like the perfect hija, hasn't complained one bit, so cute even Cuina is falling for her.

I was wondering if Sebas went for a ride on Hand's orbiting plane but it looks like he just had a regular seat.

Diabla spends so much time being nice to people I'm waiting for her face to crack.

there was that short scene where Ivan visits Luis and looks through a photo album of Carla, Luis doesn't like the constant torture Leticia is going through but if they do discover Carla is dead, that would bring closure.

I don't think Ivan sent Nat any pics of Carla, which leaves the door open when Nat also doesn't give Vane any.

I think Quique told Diabla he gave the order to Pulpo to fire the bazooka, as in Pulpo Manotas, his sidekick who I think is in charge of CataM and Hernan.

 

Sin-Seños4

El Final del Paraíso

Thanks for commenting, deb. As we race to the end it gets more difficult to process all the details.

Yes, the Berrio phone call was a bit confusing. Yes, who the heck was he talking to and what does he know? He's been giving his lovely wife strange looks, too.

Yes, Al told Cata that Valeria was a Diabla victim, too. They were together at Diabla’s. He mentioned the little brother blackmail. So Valeria was forced to admit she knew about Diabla. Did Valeria ever say she had to wear a mask like Al?

Also, Luis thought Ivan was just another “charlatan” looking to capitalize on their situation.

And thanks for straightening out my Quique/Pulpo confusion. I still don’t understand why he chose now to tell.

dondi356

 

sin senos#4

DONDI

YES ,YOU ARE HOLDING IT DOWN!!

THANKS..
I WILL COMMENT LATER..

BUT , IT'S A HOT MESS.. CG AND TITI had their LOVE SONG.a poppin last night so, I cant concentrate .. with this cold...that Amor song.. they paly that one song for everybody...

but berrios is being poisoned !! really. like what Diabla gonna do, step into the presidency

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