Thursday, November 14, 2019
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 11, 2019
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: selena, señor7, sin-senos4, telemundo
Steve, Cabo escaped the shoot out at Monclova and escaped Rutila's surprise attack in Cancun. He was on his way to meet with Volpi. The bad news for him is his Pio cover is blown--everyone knows that Pio Jose Valdivia is Milton "El Cabo" Jimenez.
dondi356
El Final del Paraíso
We open with Sebas and Alex. Sebas says he’s there so Alex won’t kill him. Alex senses something different in the way Sebas speaks to him. Not really, says Sebas. Alex says your family owes me a lot. Are you intending to pay for them?
Diabla is on a rant: that bitch CataG knows everything! She will pay along with everyone else! This is not the end! Quique reaffirms his loyalty to Diabla. She says Quique did her a favor. She got a new face and was able to make Cata’s life hell. She has become the new Black Hand.
Titi is praising Cata on her call to Diabla. You and me we’re a team, we can destroy Diabla and Cata agrees. First Cata wants to get the baby back. She says that girl is her daughter now. Titi takes that opportunity to say she’s OUR daughter.
Ok, Sebas, let’s get to work. Yadith is on it—gathering men, resources. Yadith detects some sort of jealousy on Sebas’ part. Alex smiles, well the thing is Sebas was my….my only friend. (Is anyone starting to question the nature of their friendship?) Yadith says, we can’t afford friends, and, looking at Sebas--no friends.
Alex will give Sebas an opportunity to stay alive and prove his loyalty. What is it? Bring us Santiago Sanin. They give Sebas a phone, we need your parents’ numbers.
In Miami: Mateo tries to locate Sebas with no luck. Hilda has a huge interview in 1 hour. She’s too upset to be interviewed. Sal and Mateo double team her and tell her she can’t pass up this incredible opportunity.
Shadow questions why Santi would team up with Albeiro. Simple, it’s love. Santi says they were happy for 20 years until they returned to Colombia. That was the beginning of the end. Shadow wants to leave the group but Santi says to stay, to get justice and rescue your son.
Diabla sets up her operations again in “Sasha’s” house. She says if anyone comes Quique and Sasha will have to pretend they are a happily married couple.
Sebas asks a favor and Alex allows him to call Hilda. He calls Hilda right before her interview. Sal takes the phone away. LOL, Sebas says “Cállase cállase, sapo”, which the captions translate to “shut up and mind your own business, buckteeth!” Sebas says Sal has no idea what’s going on, to stay out of it. Sal demands that Sebas return immediately. Hilda takes the phone back. Sebas tells her he’s ok but he’s never coming back. He’s going to disappear. He’s sorry and thanks her for everything. Hilda and Sal argue; he calls her selfish!
Titi makes his case: have you thought that we could start all over again? I’ll give up the routes, I’ll quit the business, I’ll forget the money stashed away. Teach me to be honest and transparent like you. Show me your way of life. Let’s get away just the two of us. Don’t say anything yet. (Which is ok, because all Cata can do is stare at him, bug eyed.)
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El Final del Paraíso
Lucrecia and Berrio talk about CataG. They believe in her innocence and have to figure out a way to help. Suddenly, he has an attack of gastritis. Valeria walks in and puts on a phony act of concern. She barks orders to Lu—clear his schedule, call the doctor.
Titi’s fantasy: goodbye El Titi, hello Aurelio Jaramillo, pleased to meet you. Cata can’t help but smile. He goes on: imagine me an engineer, architect, plumber. A lawyer? We could have a big house, no, we are honest people—a little house by the beach. Selling juice. We have a little boy, we already have the girl, Catalina. Not named after me, Aurelio is an ugly name. You choose a name. We would be happy. Cata is laughing and smiling. Titi says she’s beautiful. She thanks him and says she knows deep inside there’s a good guy. But she has stopped believing in happiness.
Titi balks on calling Cuina. He’s afraid she will hurt the baby. Time to man up, Titi! Titi offers money to Cuina to return to Mexico. She says so what, I can borrow from anyone, I have other contacts--like Yesica Beltran. What?! Titi tries to dissuade her. Cuina mentions her bargaining chip, little Catica. So text your offer and let’s see.
Hilda aced the interview. She’s still upset about Sebas.
Berrio is feeling better. Valeria suggests getting something to eat. There’s a call from the Ministry of the Interior and Valeria leaves. Berrio lets loose on the call: both the house and ID papers are fake! She is undoubtedly Yesica Beltran! Listen, the timing must be right! I know it’s dangerous but it’s more dangerous to have that lunatic on the loose. We made a commitment and need to see it through.
Marcela and Albeiro have a heart to heart: his life is chaos. He can’t start another relationship. She says, it’s good to start over. His past is holding him back. She doesn’t understand, tells him she’s in love with him. No discernible reaction on his part.
Pilar calls Diabla. She wants to kill Titi and Cata. Pilar pledges her loyalty and a new drug formula. Diabla agrees to meet. When they meet, Pilar also mentions getting back at Cuina, who wants to take over Diabla’s territory.
Cuina and Tonina talk. They’ve grown fond but might have to give up Catica. Meanwhile Titi has located Cuina via tracker Pilar had earlier placed on her phone.
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El Final del Paraíso
Santi gets the call from Sebas. Dad, I’m in Colombia, come for me. Don’t ask but I need your help. Please come alone and unarmed. Santi gets the address. Shadow volunteers to go but Santi need to go alone.
Cata and Titi are out looking for Cuina. Cata has a plan to draw her out.
Off camera, Cuina left a message for Diabla. It was risky, but necessary. Tonina says she could offer us up to the president. He’s on a mission to destroy all narcos. Don’t you think calls to the First Lady are traced? They discover the tracker on Cuina’s phone. Uh, oh. They are screwed and prepare to leave.
Cuina calls Diabla and makes her offer, I have Titi’s daughter. Pilar can’t believe what she’s hearing. Cuina says let’s kill Titi and then we can negotiate. This is about revenge and making lots of money.
An orange kitty enters Cuina’s room. Little Catica, says kitty, kitty. (I thought I saw that cat earlier on the bed with Catica.)
Diabla will consider Cuina’s offer. Pilar tells about Cuina’s dog. Sasha doesn’t like that. Quique says not to trust her. Pilar makes another play, don’t partner with Cuina, take my offer. Diabla wants Sasha to take Pilar to her room. Uh, oh. Pilar isn’t going anywhere since she has seen Diabla’s face and knows her address.
Santi is at Alex’s hideout. He’s tied up. Yadith stuns him and he falls to the ground. Alex tells Sebas it’s time to do what I had to do and then we will be bound together forever. He hands Sebas a gun--shoot him. Weepy Sebas approaches his dad who is now kneeling before him. Alex is standing next to Sebas, shoot your father like I shot mine. Santi’s eyes never waver from Sebas. Sebas points his gun. And we are out.
dondi356
dondi, a lot of little things occurred in this episode and you did an excellent job of capturing it all!
Alf's phone chats are confusing, I'm wondering if he has decided that Sasha is Diabla.
with the timing I'm wondering if the cat is part of Cata's plan.
yep, Pilar is a nerd, walked right into that one, maybe she will get Albeiro's old room, still wondering why Cardonito stayed behind.
I guess that tracker has a wide range, they were talking about searching 100 yards in each direction till Cata said something like starting a fire to get Cuina to show herself, I'm curious what she'll do, she is highly trained DEA.
Shadow is no dummy, I'm wondering if he copied the address and followed Santi.
El Final del Paraiso is beating ESDLC7 in the ratings!
El Final del Paraíso
Thanks, deb.
I’m wondering about Berrio’s calls, too. Could it be what we’ve been waiting for? Is he deliberately letting himself be poisoned? Crazy.
Are we going to have another cat in a supporting role? We had Tozzi in LRDS.
It’s very possible that Shadow and Arturo have followed Santi. How else can he get out of this? It would also set up an interesting confrontation between Shadow and son Alex.
Not surprised that El Final is beating El Señor Depends. Viewers were pissed they killed off Aurelio Casillas at the start. Guess it’s not enough that his “ghost” appears nightly in flashbacks.
dondi356
The WEEK
HILDA was correct abt sebas life chances.. it’s that thug life.. live fast -die young…
CG and Cuina, no way!!Was,CG going to accept her bribe ...
Ruben is on diabla payroll or black hand payroll.. something stinks..
Marcela and Al.... it aint gonna happen..
Vanessa and Natalia , ignore Ruben he is a macho jerk..
Alex's contact yaditz?...is a cool number.. so, suddenly Alex is Mr. Evil…!!
Art told Shadow , that his son is criminal, but shadow wants to contact his. I hope he plans to kill him..
Cg and Titi had to kiss to put it over to the DEA, that she is a turn coat…damn I missed that..!!! where?? when?? yes!!!
Pilar and Cardone , I enjoyed him for a minute, he died ugly….like Cesar Borgia ,I quess... the Hanged Man
Marimeth and Regina are a hair breath from killing each other…
Everybody has the newer and improved xyz4?
So, everybody thinks Mari meth is dead..?? not going to happen.... she the next generation of criminals for the new series…
Dondi
Barrios has been whispering a lot and Diabla is always around.. when does she ever leave that office?
Yes,CG, had the gall to blame Titi for Mari meth.. that’s some Bullsh$t.. you never noticed your child was an addict...
She was correct abt Yessica whispering in her ear like the devil…
It was nice watching Titi plead his case... he worked the WE ARE ALONE… LETS TALK. how many times are they gonna use that ‘AMOR’ song ... ???
Love Titi’s ‘rap’ the man can talk your socks off!!baby baby baby!!! He telss her a thousand-time abt how, she is the love of his life.
It is working, they have had more planing and con-fabbing then any other relationship...
And where is that engagement ring.?? Ms. CG??
Mari meth...make up your mind, you know Titi and Cg are the good guys. Stop tripping!!
Cuina…. Is the new momma... from hell!!
Cuina and diabla ??!!its gonna be deep.. hope they kill each other..
The house and the prestigious relator.. the corruption makes everybody suckers. The investigators are lazy!!
How the hell can Ruben close the Columbian DEA office.. why??.. smells like blk Hand
Natalia and the Diabla run in/face off.... OMG!! Natalia cold-cracked her face!!!loved it!!
Titi better have a plan.. OMG.. Cg plans are a hot mess!!
flashback..highschool.. car scene,when she flashes him and shows him her new tatas and he leaned in /his eyes glazed over in happiness … and was abt to lip -grip /get a suction...on one-of-those-bad-boys-!! Oh, happy memories
So, Mari meth still has Catamedia is bondage… the next series are Catamedia hunting down both Mari and Sebas….
So Sebas is a big wussy for his lover ALEX ???
Love is nice but to be dominated by Alex?? Really.. are you that codependent??
Yes.. Cuique.. STFU!! WHY!!
CG calls Diabla and messes with her head..
Deb:
Yes…come on Ivan.. help your pals… and your girl. Natalia!! cougar- love cub!!
Dondi356: I saw that Danna Garcia's character got shot during the shootout. Did she survive ?
El Final del Paraíso
I can’t, I can’t, he’s my dad! says Sebas. But Alex thinks he can and Santi is responsible for what happened to Black Hand. An eye for an eye… Yadith throws in, show us you are not a child. Stoic Santi says, this is not you, Sebas. I love you with all my heart. Sebas pleads, he just can’t.
Alex says, oh one more thing, Doc. There’s something else you should know about your son. Sebas begs, no more! And with a little nibble on Sebas’ ear, Alex says Santi should not leave this world before knowing his son and I are a couple! Whoa! Is it true? Sebas doesn’t want to talk about it so we get a flashback to their start. Alone and high, Alex comes on to Sebas, touching his face, saying this is what you and I have wanted for a long time but we haven’t dared. They kiss.
Alex says to Santi, you should have seen us pop that cherry. It was the best night of our lives. Santi says I won’t turn against my son and don’t use his sexuality. Sebas yells, then why did you abandon me? Where were you when I needed you? Alex jumps in, that’s it! Pointing to Santi’s forehead, put the bullet right here, Sebas. Santi says you know I was falsely imprisoned. Your mom sent you away to protect you, so you wouldn’t end up like Mari. (that worked so well, didn’t it?)
Sebas says it’s too late, I’m alreadya part of this world. Yadith is growing impatient, shoot already. Alex says Sebas needs a little bit of courage and leads him away. Besides, it will give Santi a chance to realize all that’s happening here. Santi shouts after his son, stay with me, remember who you are, remember our family, don’t let him drag you into this world! Yadith says there’s a lot of bad guys and we always win.
We get a slight rewind in time. Shadow and Arturo have followed Santi and called Albeiro and Jota to help. Arturo, who doesn’t care for Albeiro, says it’s weird to save your woman’s husband, no? Shadow updates Al, we saw Santi go in and we have a bad feeling about it. Arturo hands out the guns, but Jota is hesitant. He asks Al if he is sure he wants to do this. Al says it’s the right thing to do. He will be able to face CataG later. Jota babbles some more, Al says we are born to die. Jota decides to back up his friend.
Lucrecia and Berrio are in the office. He has information showing the links between Mexican and Colombian cartels. It’s terrifying. There’s also illegal mining and excessive logging going on to support drug production. He asks Lu to research agreements between Mexico and Colombia. We have to do everything to stop these criminals. Suddenly, Berrio suffers another attack of “gastritis”. He says he’s fine but collapses. Get an ambulance! Nelly wants to call Valeria but Lu says no. Nelly follows protocol and calls. Valeria puts on the first lady act. Quique asks, did he kick the bucket? No, God hasn’t granted that miracle yet.
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El Final del Paraíso
Shadow gang 2.0 are at the entrance of Alex’s building. They can see Alex and Sebas snorting coke. Arturo says to Shadow, I don’t know what’s worse for you, seeing your son a criminal or seeing him use that crap. And here comes another shock, Alex and Sebas making out. Shadow shakes his head. Jota narrates, it looks like they are in love. We hear Alex say, let’s finish this and Albeiro says let’s get this done. Shadow gang moves in.
Sebas is ready to kill and Santi makes a last plea for family. But Sebas’ hate is stronger than family. Just then Shadow runs out, nooooo! Shots fired and it’s the Shadow gang with hand guns against the bad guys with machine guns.
People are running out of the hotel. I’ll guess that Cata pulled a fire alarm. So where’s Cuina? Cata and Titi follow the signal to the orange cat. And as Cuina and Tonina make their get away with Catica, Tonina says it was a great idea to use the cat.
I guess Sal was missing in action because Mateo found him at a bar making out with some random chick. Sal said, he doesn’t care, he’s nothing to Hilda. Well, he was important to Hilda. He was the man who made her believe in herself and in love again. She feels like an idiot. Carlos, Albeiro, Salvatore…. all liars. She cries on Mateo.
Back at the pool hall, Al and Jota review the raid on Alex. It was shocking and heartbreaking. Arturo died in the line of duty, taking a bullet meant for Shadow. Mí mas sentido pésame, Shadow. Alex and Sebas got away, but at least they rescued Santi. Santi is grateful for the rescue. Santi has a dislocated shoulder and Al helps him out.
Valeria is at Berrio’s bedside. Get well soon, honey. (so I can finish you off.) Lu is in the room, too. Lu has had enough and she closes the door behind the doctor as he leaves the room. Lu wants to speak openly—what are you doing to him and don’t play coy. Valeria doesn’t like Lu’s tone. They warn each other to be careful. Valeria is sick of Lu’s attitude towards her, the persecution. She’s the First Lady! Lu says you call yourself a lady? Admit what you are doing to the president! Valeria calls her a jealous harpy.
Lu goes crazy on Valeria, puts her hands around her neck, pushes her back to the wall. It’s you, it’s you! Your eyes are filled with evil and I see her! You know what, you are going to pay for everything! Our enjoyment is cut short, Valeria screams for security. Valeria plays it up, Lu is insane, she tried to kill me! Take her away. As they drag Lu out, she screams to Nelly, this woman is killing the president! Believe me Nelly she’s killing him!
Nelly gets a text about a scheduled press conference. Obviously Berrio can’t do it so she will cancel. What’s it about? The power of women. Berrio wanted to do it in Pereira because of all the sexual exploitation that happens here. Valeria wants to take his place! Nelly is hesitant. Not to worry, Valeria will study his reports and be ready.
Valeria asks about Lu. Don’t worry she’s locked up. Poor Lu is behind bars, nothing she can do for the president now.
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El Final del Paraíso
It’s night time and Vane, Nat and Ivan are outside of Leticia’s house. Luis is out, no one is home. They break in. They find Karla’s birth certificate and pictures of her. Vane wants to make a call to Rubens, he needs to know and the agency will have to back us up. Ivan warns they need to be careful, they are there without a warrant. Nat finds the police file on Karla’s disappearance.
Rubens shuts Vane down. He called it ridiculous and typical of the agents working for Cata. Nat says they need to contact Granados. Vane trusts him, but there are people above him that will stop us. Vane wants to call Rogelio.
Seems Rogelio was going to contact Vane, he wants to do an article on Catalina Santana and the possible disbandment of the DEA office in Colombia. But Vane has something much better for him. She’s got evidence to expose the First Lady for who she really is. Come to this address and bring a reporter for a live broadcast.
The First Lady’s press conference starts. Nelly introduces Val. She explains the president is in the hospital for routine matters. After all the campaign was very stressful. He’s being treated by the best and will be back at work very soon.
Cata and Titi happen to be watching and smirking at Valeria’s charade. Val talks about the 3 immediate plans they have for the country: first, protection for women and girls affected by violence, second, create a Ministry for Women (this gets Cata agitated), and third, create the Without Breasts There is Paradise Foundation! Cata exclaims, that’s my idea, Titi! She stole it! Titi reassures Cata that for now Diabla may be fooling the people but in the long run Cata’s truth and honesty will win.
Cata can’t be calmed. Val with her innocent looking face doesn’t give a damn about women. She’s the exploiter, disparager. She may have surgery on her face, breasts and butt, but she’s the same proxeneta she met 20 years ago. Titi will be a willing witness to all that. He can face the media. He says put me in prison, make me face la DEA, he’ll do life. He’ll tell everyone about the kilos of cocaine, the XY4. Cata says thanks but that won’t work. They will never believe a narco over the First Lady.
Somehow, Quique managed to find out our rogue agents are at Leticia’s. He reports to Diabla. She says call Sasha and get rid of the evidence and the people.
Back in Miami, Hilda is cutting up her dresses. Mateo and Leticia try to stop her. Hilda chases them with scissors. She’s done with this. Hilda wants to return to Colombia. Mateo says you’re just upset about everything. Leticia and I will always believe in you. Please stay for the fashion show. How can she stay and play the star designer with what’s happening to her family?
Cuina and Tonina talk about meeting Diabla. They have Titica, she’s our in. What if Diabla says no? Not going to happen says Cuina.
Cata is exhausted, she wants to sleep. Indefatigable Titi seizes the opportunity and says, I know you have reason to hate me, but you also have reason to love me. If I asked God and the world if they wanted us together they would say yes. Because they know the kisses we gave each other, how we stare into each other’s souls, how we love the taste of each other. I’m dying to be with you and then he pulls Cata in to nuzzle. Cue Estar Contigo… and we are out.
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Dondi:
FINAL....is Awesome!!! Yes !!
Sebas is a chump and a punk…can anyone be that resentful ..abandonment issues??... Okay, but hate..okay… but, murder??!!
Quique…STFU…Diabla’s has always worried abt CG’s success and beauty… that’s why ,she did her dirty..and always avoided face to face confrontations..How is she the new black hand , because ,she plans to be Columbia’s next lady president??
Titi and CG… ..okay?? Titi goes into his ‘rap’ abt making a family together and make a new baby brother for titica… Giving CG a new family..I would start fresh with new kids..go -for-it!!
Titi uses a southern charm…. Let’s make a baby..!!....bold…but its sexy in a country downhome style way. Very old school ..
Sebas and alex are outted … but its sick..LOVE means not having to kill your lover’s parents
And how the heck can you let your ‘pal’.. make you kill your father.. the one that loved you…out of both parents, Santiago was the most attentive to his children..
Poor Hilda , the woman can’t catch a break.. she is right abt sebas.. and Mateo and Sal, WTF , do you think you doing ...snatching the phone and getting in to middle of the conversation.. you set OFF a teenager TOO??!! POOR SAL WHAT A SQUARE?!
SHADOW AND SANTI.. you gave that heifer a ring ..Santi ,you my man, you’re too good for her…she lied abt her past. Now it destroyed you...…. Beginning of the end….that wench had Titi’s ring in her purse the whole time…
..recue your son!! WTF!! WHA??!!
TITI GO SQUARE!! WFT??! FOR WHA?? KEeP YOUR MONEY AT LEAST!!LIVE in a SMALL HOUSE AND COOK BEANS AND RICE AND PLANTANOS?OKAY!!!...CG said she doesn’t believe in happiness… and rescue titica not Mari!!
DONDI
I ENJOYED THIS FINAL the dynamic duo of Titi and CG, they are the power couple of this show. That’s why the SERIES IS NO#1..!!!
HILDA ..yes!!..life owes you a break!!!
Berrios is an idiot…he knows she is the devil and he is still trying to ‘ HIT-IT’..is that why he hasn’t had her arrested!!??While he is being careful she is killing him..Coup??
Sorry ,Al is not available…
Pilar you really have no game plan ….you got- out of the frying- pan-into- the- fire. Take your formula and start a new hustle somewhere else..
Sebas ….were you born an idiot?? Santi and sebas , two honest nerds and victims..
Cg and Titi on the street ,was too cool. Tonina..may have to die today. Racketeer devices has them going crazy..
That baby is very good. Is she a twin!!
Deb:
Shadow better do something. Santi is too nerdy..is right!!
Warning.
.. Cussing ..ahead[ pardon, I teach High school in North Philly, I was raised Navy. So, I ‘m a going in..]Mature aud.Only!!
DONDI:
. THANKS FOR HOLDING IT DOWN…OMG!! KNOCK ME DOWN WITH A FEATHER!! WTF!! The- joint- was -Poppin..!! all- the- way….-Lit !!!
What the heck didn’t happen… if you blinked, you missed out..!!
but ,what the heck is going on with Sebas.. boy, are you cray cray??..are you that codependent....?
Nasty.. ratchet, skanky demon child. Chunky I mean,Alex….. You’re a cold-blooded freak. What’s with the pimp move, where you get the gall to tell that boy’s dad… that you’re Fu@#king his son…
You tried to Slut shame Sebas.. in an attempt to demoralize that man.But it didn't work...[ Santi was in jail for years, fighting to keep his own..‘red-eye’]..so , that went over like water off- a -duck’s- back..
Dondi
PG13...mature response
I am undone from this episode... SSFP has got to be NO#1
POOR SANTI... YOU WOULD HAVE KILL THAT BASTARD ...given half a chance
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Sado-dominate freak ,Alex told Santi. …I popped your boy’s cherry…really …who says or does that..??.. nobody but a pimp…!! In order to slut-shame Sebas...Alex,‘buck-broke’ that boy…then he tried to ‘gaslight'/Gas-up Santi....stupid move.... the dad that gave him life.. that changed the boy’s diapers...
WTF!!...What kind of would tell another woman's father ..'I busted your daughter's cherry;..... and expect not to-have-to- put-up-them-paws..dem's fighting words.. the father loses face/honor'..you better have him tied up..Alex has a aszz whupping on GP..
Alex ..you have no idea what real father is !!..not a serial killer sociopath…and most likely, child molester , cause Alex has no boundaries??
Alex, you,uncouth, nasty, ratchet,slimey ,sexual inappropriate. dirty Pig bastard… whatever freak show you are used to doing with your freakaszz 'dad'.. don’t apply to the normal Godfearing world.. that’s ya’ll sick mess….I suspect perversion .. cause like Bh said.. you’re his..
Santi…I have MAD RESPECT ..I HAVE TO give him, MAD props!!!..…. Dude was cool -as-a-cucumber.. he didn’t let that ratchet SLAG pig mess...get under his skin..the man seen it all in prison.. no shock value.
But Santi saw his son deteriorate into a degenerate, Servant/sex slave in front of his eyes…
I wouldn’t let these people….near a child.. if you kill your parents, you have no boundaries!!you will commit any sin ,any type of crime!!
This show went into a very dark place… we watched the female side for years..now it’s the male version of sex slavery …
Santi..kept trying to reach Sebas brainwashed doped up outta-of-his-mind.. what was left of it anyway...?
How long did /when did and how soon did Black hand , begin to groom Alex to be a sociopath and a sexual predator.....at what age..?? and what did Alex have to participate in.. to win his dad’s approval. Sick..??!! ..
Alex was not shocked or surprised abt his father’s request and how old was he when he and his adopted ‘father’ began practicing their suicide pact… Alex is an unknown element but its oblivious he was in serial killer training and God knows ,what ever hellscape.. all his life..
….and how long before, and how soon did Alex, scoop- out- scout out , Pickup ,hone -in , spot and 'TURN-OUT’…the weak azz /needy/hopeless Sebas. A perfect victim.
And when did Alex, predator/ as a'stud' begin to Pimp- Groom Sebas.. to be his bottom....to his top…
Sebas ,your sexual orientation, ain’t the problem…Your willingness to be a masochistic , unprincipled, self-absorbed coward and pathetic punkaszz idiot is a problem.. To commit patricide!! In order to please a stud-lover.. WTF!!
To have him control and coward you in front of the man who gave you life ,loved and raised you.. is infantile and immoral..
FINAL68
DONDI/DEB...
PG:13..Thanks for letting me vent.This show went there and then some last night...
The Episode From HELL!!
What did Santi and CG ,do to have two neurotic narcissistic kids.. gene pool from hell..Santi.. you did nothing to deserve the misfortune you are facing.
Sebas.. you let a man pimp you to commit a crime for love. Love of what …a Nacro serial killer..??
This show.. really took it there, but to have Sebas kill Santi , make Sebas look like a weak, desperate, vacillating , pathetic chump...love addict....
No self-respecting man/woman/fem/ is going to beg and plead to not kill his parents ,just to stay in a relationship..
Why did they make Sebas a spineless coward? Mari meth has more eggs than her own brother….But she loved her dad.. so, these two are destined to be enemies as well..
This show got continues its dark subtext..child sexual abuse..
Welcome to the new series…it’s going all-the-way-there..
Sebas !dude!!!,,let me share some wisdom..from my grandmother.momma's and aunt's discourse on men..[ via..Charleston S.C.]
'…..Let me get this straight.. you are dropping your moral compass.. because of some..D#$ck’’..was Alex’s ‘long-stoke- all-that!!..Alex, must have -put-it-on-ya!!... Is his ‘Mac-daddy pumping that awesome??.. is that stuff made of gold !!??..'
But, dude, there are a million sharks in the sea.. it’s 2019.. it’s raining men..
Sebas...why the depravity!!.. you are making Mari look normal!! are you a whipping boy/masochist and love the beat-down!! the pain. I don’t get it.. S/M bullcrap….what a weak-minded punk.
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Sorry!! There ain't enough hard pumping action in the world... I don’t care if dude is hitting--all-four-corners ,with some awesome..‘Super…'G-spot action'..!!
Snap out-of-it Sebas … Sorry,but there ain’t enough sugar-Di$%k in the world to make a person decide to kill ones’ parents…!!
Sebas, wake the fk up!!...ain’t enough- smooth ,hard rocking, deep stroke p-e-n-i-s…in the world, that could anybody LOSE THEIR MIND..to the point to kill their parents!!
Sebas…come back !!are you that hard up?? That thirsty for a man?... that desperate for some loving.. that any man can take you to hell…??
you are so high class.!!.. the jail yard is filled with tattooed man- whores..used-up and played-out boy- bags that get passed from owner to owner..and the prison yard market. Are you planning to just be some bodies bitch..as career move??
I am undone. Flummoxed…flustered and ‘F-k-up!!. ….just when I thought it couldn’t get any worst than methadone Mari…my lord..
the child needs prayer and jailtime..
Teenagers!! We are going to hell in a handbasket!!
Santi ,you are in my prayers...Santi, what the heck is wrong with those nogood kids of yours??….this family is cursed!!malfi ojos!!
I see where the series next year is going!!
Deb/Dondi:
Get me back to justsome regular.. normal killers...
Okay.. pass the tea!!..Cause didn’t Berrios fall -the -heck-out.. one minute he’s cool.. then he falls -like-a -tree!!
Poor lulu. She is besides herself and girlfriend went for Yessica’s throat.. she had her in good gripe.. throttle -dat-bitch-to-death.. !!!
Damn ,just as Yessica’s eye started to pop- out, she caught a breath.. lulu ..next time-use your thumbs and press!!
Damn , now Lulu is in lock up.. please live till next season..
Ivan ,vane and Natalia.. you're abt to bust this -cover, wide over.. but what the heck was Quiqui doing there??
the devil's 2nd cousin,Yessica is always 2-steps ahead.. she plans to be the next president…???!
I knew it !!!....the Widows 'clause'... like USA senators wives??
Deb:
yes...I swear to goodness.. CG head almost exploded watching Yessica ..designating herself as the chair-founder- CEO-lead of the Sin Senos Paradiso foundation. A front for what trafficking..
Now where did that flat screen tv and living set come from..?? but works..for titi's evening!!
Yessica as a spokesperson for mujer maltrata!! Get the fkkk outta here, my head almost exploded ,Yessica, was the worst pimpetta ever!! Underage-Coochie was a profitable$$ commodity ..Yessica sold them or tricked HS girls .. no matter the age or intellect[ CG was a slow dim wit.. for sure]
Cg called that correctly…what’s the plan??
Vane, Natalia calls Rog to bring the press.. I hope its all captured live how the corruption is underfunded by the mob..
Hilda ...can a chick catch a break.. some time..Sal,SAL!!SAL!!! WTF!! are you kinda alcoholic slag!!!
dondi, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!
you even caught Yadith's line, "there’s a lot of bad guys and we always win", I'm waiting to see her and Sasha in the same room.
say, wasn't Sebas living with his aunt, who?, in Miami, surprising that Cata has even seen him since bringing him to Colombia.
Halimacandy, loved your line, "Sebas...you are making Mari look normal!!
I kept telling the Cata squad to get out of the house, are they planning on spending the night?
Dondi/Deb:
THE LOVE STORY CONTINUES…
so, Cuina is negotiating for Titica. Too cute! the extortion involves confirming CG’s betrayal of the DEA….one way to do this is to send a video confession .Thumb her nose at the agency by Lip locking with fugitive and Nacro Capo Titi, like Capo’s girl from Reina de sur..
The extortion of victims to guarantee safety …ok. However, the writers did this for the pleasure of the audience. I ‘m liking the writers of this season very much…
Okay, Cuina/Tontohead have THEM‘make-out' in a convincing manner and she has a live stream to Facebook/YouTube?
CG’s ,version of affection, what was that ? a beck from your aunt..
Cuina tells Titi, dude , what’s that weak mess, are you a player or what, is she the love of your life, where’s the Passion..
Show us how its done… this is from the chick that wanted him to join in with Pilar for a threesome. oh, yea , get your freak on. No way that man goes near ,where somebody maybe strapped!!!
So Titi looks very humbled and nervous ,he is worried abt opposing Cuina ,given she has Titica in her arms..
Titi and Cg decide to bite the bullet and cooperate , cuina is goaling them on ,but she doesn’t need to. Titi already had a glint in his eyes, it didn’t take much to get him into position for a grand amour style embrace..
CG is giving Cunny dirty looks / trying to remain dignified but it’s a wrap.. Titi hasn’t taken his eyes off her.[IUD's in place?] his focus and concentration are in motion to get an arm full of CG…a hard job, he is ready to accept..
Cg tells Titi, come nearer and let me teach you ,show you how it’s gets done [ the pro back in action??]
Step 1 , you smooth, your belove's hair with a light touch to show your affection.. to let her know Everything’s going to be fine.. I got this momma!! With a little smile.. ease a little closer..
Step 2.easy -place your fingers in her hair , the other behind her neck .Titi draws her close , bottom lips meet, kiss her quickly and in biting motion, repeat firmly several times and kept a firm grip on her cheeks and to back of her head to keep the pressure warm and smooth..
if CG was pizza roll ,He would‘ve consumed her.
While Titi was sucking Cg’s lips like its candy. Chomp nibble bite…Cuina was giving soft appreciative exclamation.. go on and get.. do -it-right /nice one!!
WHEW…!! WOOWEE!! Heifer ,chill ! get your own action!! No wonder you’re begging and giving up million dollars to your lovers. You ‘re THIRSTY AS HELL!
Cinna had Titicaca join in to laugh at the fun.. Titicaca was most likely saying:
I SAW MOMMY KISSIING SANTA KLAUSS!!!
The Casillas family better focus on stopping Ojeda & Volpi.
El Final del Paraíso
Thank you, Halimacandy (extraordinary color commentary) and deb.
Halimacandy, no one tells the adult love story like you do. I agree the writers have turned the show around this season.
I’m not sure what to think about Alex except that he is in way over his head. Raised by that psycho, this kid never had a chance. Waiting for Yadith to betray him. It’s too easy. I can’t believe I’m saying this—Alex would have been better off raised by Shadow.
I’ve had it with Sal.
Yes, deb, Auntie Who? Regarding Cata squad: quote Rubens, “typical of the agents working for Cata.”
dondi356
Dylan finds out the govt. knows Pio is Cabo and informs Cabo. Cabo decides to leave immediately. Meanwhile, Rutila visits Berenice. She figures out Jaime’s Colombian guests are Cabo and crew. Rutila shoots at the getaway car, hits Violeta but they get away. They take off in a plane.
Amado finds Colon. Colon pulls a gun on him, wants to know why he went bad. Amado says things are not always black and white. And Volpi wants to bring fentanyl to Mexico. Amado wants Colon on his side and have him tell Castillo and Navarro about Volpi. Colon tells Corina he’s bringing this to Castillo and Navarro. He wants her to come back to the good guys; he will help her.
Navarro lets Ambar go. She’ll go to Colombia with Chema and start her work to turn him in.
Chema meets with Volpi.
Volpi also wants to negotiate with Cabo.
Amado is pissed Chema’s negotiating with Volpi and also he warns him away from Diana. A bare fisted brawl breaks out between Amado and Chema then everyone joins.
Fidencio has set Rita up in a house. He’s sweet on her.
Valdes wants to get Alfaro to spy on Castillo for him.
Alfaro is following Dylan but Dylan confronts him and invites him in to the club for drinks.
Berenice confronts Jaime about the Colombians. He tries to explain, make her stay, but she goes home to mom.
Pulque proposes to Alba and she accepts. The family is happy until Alba says she’s moving away and taking the kids. She tells Rutila she’s not a good mother.
Corina wheels Colon in to meet with Navarro. Colon tells what he knows. Castillo wants to arrest Corina but Navarro and Colon talk him out of it.
Esther finds the cocaine stash that Los Casillas stole from Cabo. She moves it to another location. She wants to use it to absolve Diana and screw the Colombians who killed her husband. She informs Castillo.
Cabo calls Jaime for help handling Esther and Diana. Cabo decides to kidnap Esther to draw out Diana. Bere’s in the middle of all of this. She tells Jaime a bomb is going to drop on his Colombian friends.
Samario sees cops and reporters at Esther’s house and reports back. Esther gives a press conference with Cabo’s cocaine laid out on the table before her. Cabo is watching it on TV. He's furious!
dondi356
Deb, Dondi and Halimacandy, I can't keep up with the dizzying and twisting subplots, but your recaps and comments help and also catch the crazy plot hole mistakes. I don't get Sebas turning on his parents to such an extreme. Was he living with Santi's sister? How come she didn't visit with him when he returned to Miami with Hilda and crew? How come she and other relatives didn't pester CG to help free Santi from jail? Didn't Santi complain that CG never communicated even one update on their kids? And whose Miami mansion are Hilda and crew staying in?
Why did Sal suddenly turn on Hilda after she pulled herself together for the interview? Given Hilda's worries, shouldn't Mateos have held off on telling her about Sal's betrayal?
Why did Vane and crew break into Letitia's house when Letitia had been begging the DEA to investigate her missing daughter? Couldn't they just wait for the husband to return?
How is Diabla now HIV negative when her blood test donation for Daniela's hissy fit showed that she was HIV positive? Did she get the same forgetful scriptwriter's miracle cure that CG got from the original series?
I'm so confused!
-MCM
MCM, good to hear from you!
yep, this is a crazy show.
on the house Hilda's gang is staying, I'm assuming it's the house Santi and Cata lived in for 20 years.
on Diabla's HIV I'm making another assumption, that Hand's shots worked, she had gotten lab results, for Albeiro anyway (who I don't think ever was HIV positive) and I'm guessing for her as well as being the reason she then took out Hand, but at the hospital when they told her she was HIV negative she acted like Hand was playing her all along.
I think Leticia has been working with Hilda, Sal and the detective who died on finding Carla, Hilda had told Cata who was, well Cata, and they were going to meet with her.
I guess Ivan has been watching the house, he reported "a transportation service for the elderly picked up the man who was there", is why they broke in then, earlier Leticia had said he was dying, and going blind from diabetis, so...
I never was impressed with Sal, he's in this game because Albeiro was paying him.
at least we are being spared Carlos' barking and biting all of his daughter Cata's enemies, like Cuina, wait, that might work.
yep, Titi turns Cata's world upsidedown everytime, and I think she loves it.
Deb, I also initially thought Albeiro was paying Sal to promote Hilda's fashions, and Sal excitedly assured Albiero that Hilda was truly talented and gorgeous. It just occurred to me that Albiero may have been trying to hook Hilda up with another lover so he'd be free to return to CG even though Carlos, Calvo and Diabla had already estranged Albiero and Hilda. But later Albiero made a reference to simply entering Hilda's designs in the fashion week competition. If Albiero still had Marcial's money to pay Sal, he'd have money to rent his own damn apartment instead of crashing on everyone's couches.
Also, in an earlier season, when Diabla had her sister's body dumped, I noticed the sister's eyes pop open. This indicated the writers planned to have her get future revenge on Diabla. But recasting Diabla changed that storyline.
-MCM
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